“We Will Have to Eat Brown Bread,” Adib Mayaleh, Head of Syria’s Central Bank

Adib Mayaleh promised Syrians “brown bread” rather than cake yesterday. Coming from Syria’s head banker, this is not reassuring. “It will be more and more difficult because of sanctions and the events. We will have to tighten our belts”, he said. “I say the opposite of Marie Antoinette who said that if the French have no bread they should eat cake. I think we will have to give up the cake to eat brown bread”.

Dr. Adib Mayaleh & Dr. Rateb Shallah, the son of Badr al-Din Shallah, who assured Hafiz al-Assad that the Damascene Sunni elite would not join the Muslim Brotherhood in their uprising against the regime in 1982. Photo taken in 23/4/2005 during the The first Tourism Investment Market in Syria.

Iran, Syria’s only backer and ally, is hedging its bets. It’s leaders no longer have confidence that Assad will survive. Ahmedinejad “warned” Bashar yesterday in an interview on Hizballa’s Almanar TV that “the people should have the right to elect and get their freedoms”. He also said that a timeline and deadlines should be put in place so the west can’t have an excuse to interfere. Iran is worried about throwing good money after bad.

The EU stopped just short of ordering a full oil embargo, but it cannot be far off. Syria only exports 110,521 barrels of oil a day. At $85 a barrel, this is just short of $10 million a day or $3.6 billion a year.This is the amount of Syria’s export revenues from oil. It is chump change for the international market. Italy has been buying half of all Syrian oil exports in an effort to make up for the Libyan exports that are no longer available to it. Replacing Syrian oil with another source will cause modest inconvenience and a small financial hit. Italy, it would seem, is being given more time by the EU to negotiate a favorable deal for a replacement source.

President Assad will not be able to survive this. It is not clear how he will be pushed out. Today, he appears strong militarily. The Syrian army has retaken Hama and destroyed large demonstrations in Homs, Deir and many other places, but the people are boiling. Anger is traveling up the Syrian social hierarchy. People cannot support this killing if there is no end in sight. Sunni merchants, the professional classes, and Christians stood by Bashar yesterday. They considered him Syria’s only option. They are rethinking. They can see that there is no light at the end of the Assad tunnel. They are beginning to pray that the change comes quickly. How that change will come remains unknown.

Will the Syrian opposition be able to rise to the challenge. That is the question that hovers over every discussion today. Can it resolve its internal squabbles in order to provide sober and disciplined leadership? Can it assume power without prolonging Syria’s agony? The Syrian youth have shown tremendous courage, but the time for wisdom and compromise has arrived.
[End of Landis Commentary]

News Round Up

Mayaleh Says $2 Billion Used to Back Syria Pound Amid Unrest
By Massoud A. Derhally, 2011-08-26 12

Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) — Syria has spent $2 billion defending its currency since the start of an uprising five months ago against the rule of President Bashar al-Assad, said Adib Mayaleh, governor of the central bank. The money came from a fund the government created two years ago that had $5 billion when the revolt began, Mayaleh said in a phone interview from Damascus today without giving details of the currency transactions. The Syrian currency has lost 3 percent against the dollar during the same period.

“These funds were for specific use in hard times like these,” he said. “As we say in Syria, save your pennies for black days.” He added, “We are in these times at the moment, these are hard days that Syria is going through and everyone is coming together to find solutions.”…

The European Union imposed sanctions against 50 people and nine entities in Syria and the bloc is preparing to prohibit imports of crude oil from the country. It has placed Assad on its asset-freeze and travel-ban lists. The EU imported 3.2 billion euros ($4.6 billion) in crude oil from Syria in 2010, or 88 percent of the total of goods shipped to the bloc from the country last year, according to the 27-nation European Commission, the EU’s executive.

“We hope the Europeans will stop these sanctions because they are imposed directly on the Syrian people,” Mayaleh said.“All countries that have had sanctions imposed against them,  and the Europeans know this, it’s possible to go around them, but at a higher cost,” he said, adding, “that’s what happenedin Iraq and a number of other countries.” …

EU extends Syria sanctions but stops short of oil embargo
Tuesday, 23 August 2011
By AFP
BRUSSELS

EU governments formally adopted sanctions on Tuesday against 15 more people and five businesses, but stopped short of concrete moves to impose a full oil embargo on Damascus.

The list of names covered by asset freezes and travel bans now runs to 50 people and nine businesses, with legal enforcement entering play when they are published in Wednesday’s legislative log, the EU’s Official Journal.

But a diplomat told AFP on Tuesday that despite a first discussion in Brussels on the oil embargo, “no clear decision has yet been taken,” with London in particular determined to ensure that sanctions do not impact on the Syrian people.

The source said: “We are in a process of working through what further tools we want to use.”

“We are open to all options–the oil embargo, sanctions on banks and telecoms, in line with the Americans–but we want to make sure sanctions are targeted at the Assad regime.”

“We are acutely aware of the need to ramp up sanctions, but we don’t want them to impact on the Syrian people,” he underlined.

Some 90 percent of Syrian crude oil is exported to the EU, where the main buyers are Denmark, Italy, France, the Netherlands, Austria and Spain, in that order. …

Western Sanctions May Put Slow Squeeze On Syria = August 26, 2011, NPR

Syrian street vendors display their goods in downtown Damascus on Tuesday, Aug. 23. Syria’s economy was hit hard initially by the anti-government uprising. It has bounced back, but now the U.S. is urging the E.U. to join in banning import of crude oil from Syria.

The Syrian economy has so far weathered the mass protests and widespread violence that have rocked most every major city. But in a move that could increase the pressure, the European Union is considering a ban on imported Syrian oil, similar to sanctions the U.S. imposed earlier this month.

Western governments say the Syrian regime’s harsh response to an anti-government uprising has demonstrated that it is not fit to lead.

In March, when the uprising first began, Syria’s economy took a huge hit. Tourism — which accounts for a large segment of the economy — dropped to almost nothing.

But later, the economy bounced back a bit, and the middle and upper classes of Syria, based mainly in the city of Aleppo and in the capital, Damascus, recovered.

Guardian (GB): Bashar al-Assad’s fall is inevitable, 2011-08-26
by Salwa Ismail

Syrians will not stop protesting until the regime is gone. They don’t need military intervention….The uprising has entered a new phase, with the opposition and protest movement widening to include professional groups such as lawyers and doctors. This adds a new dynamic to confrontations with the regime.  …  Inside Syria itself, though, there has been no call for external military …

Syrian Arab Airlines A350s blocked by US sanctions: embassy cable

Syrian Arab Airlines had been in line to receive Airbus A350s as part of a broad fleet renewal covering 50 aircraft, newly-disclosed diplomatic cables reveal. But the airframer’s plan to supply the jets – a package which included 10 A330s and 30 A320s – foundered over US government sanctions on Syria’s administration.

Russia, China boycott sanction talks – Friday, August 26, 2011

Russia and China have boycotted UN Security Council talks on a proposal to impose sanctions on Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, diplomats say. Their absence at the talks signalled the tough negotiations ahead on the move to act against Assad’s deadly crackdown on opposition protests, diplomats said.

DJ EU Embargo On Syrian Oil Would Hit Italy Hardest-Document
2011-08-25, By Benoit Faucon and Konstantin Rozhnov, DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

LONDON (Dow Jones)–A shipping document suggests a European Union embargo on Syrian crude oil–expected to be finalized next week–would hit Italy hardest,
even as the southern European country continues to make do without Libyan crude. Nearly half of the crude oil exported by Syria ended up in Italian ports last month–the equivalent of about 55,132 barrels a day out of 110,521 barrels a day of total Syrian oil shipments, according to a Syrian ports document reviewed by Dow Jones Newswires. Italian oil giant Eni SpA (E, ENI.MI) and refiners IES Italiana and Saras SpA (SRS.MI) said they do refine some Syrian crude as part of a broader slate of oil grades. ….

“European refineries are already grappling with the loss of Libyan crude,” Barclays Capital said in a note last week. “Given that one half of Syria’s key production stream is the sweet and lighter Syrian Light grade, any loss in Syrian crude volumes can significantly jeopardise European refinery operations.”

The E.U. has condemned Syrian President Bashar al-Assad following recent violence and announced a series of sanctions against the government and senior officials there. The E.U. next week is expected to finalize a plan to extend sanctions on Syria to cover oil exports to the E.U., an E.U. official said Tuesday. EU officials didn’t return a request for comment Thursday. Apart from Italy, the Syrian port document shows Syria exported crude and products to Spain, France and Turkey, among others. And a spokesperson for OMV, who declined to comment on the list of Syrian loadings, said that 7.8% of the 7.8 million metric tons of oil refined at the company’s Schwechat refinery in Austria last year came from Syria.

Yet Syrian imports remain only a small part of the roughly 1.3 million barrels of oil Italy imports every day, and government officials and refiners in the country say they can cope.

Syria has ceased all transactions in dollars Tuesday in favor of the euro
26/08/2011

Syria opposition must learn from Libya’s council
National Editorial
Aug 24, 2011

The one lesson that Syrians must learn from Libya is this: set up a truly representative national council. The Libyan Transitional Council was formed on February 27, only 12 days after Colonel Muammar Qaddafi declared a war against his own people. Libya’s council, headed by an honest politician, Mustafa Abdel Jalil, then began rigorous diplomatic efforts to gain international legitimacy, support and access to funds. The council has done a good job overall.

In Syria, more than five months after the uprising began, no such body has been established, despite the killing of over 2,000 people. And the lack of an organised and united opposition makes the future of Syria after President Bashar Al Assad, well, oblique.

A national council including credible dissidents would convince many Syrians who currently sit on the fence to side with the protesters. By discussing post-Assad Syria, a council could also encourage the international community to move more aggressively against the regime. Military intervention is both unlikely and undesirable, but there is more to be done with smart sanctions and pressure.

In fairness, the opposition has little political or diplomatic experience, after decades of suppression. But although delay means more bloodshed, opposition figures are still disagreeing on lesser issues than the continuing killings. Some even pulled out of talks about starting a national council. If such discord continues, some in the opposition will bear some of the blame for a lack of success….. The heaviest blow to Mr Al Assad is an alternative to his rule. Only then will his regime surely crumble.

علماء دين ومشايخ سوريون يطالبون بدولة مدنية
al-Qabas
أصدر خمسون رجل دين وشيخا وعالم دين سوريون بيانا أكدوا فيه تأييدهم المطلق لحق المحتجين في سوريا على التظاهر سلميا ورفضهم ونبذهم التام لأعمال القمع والقتل التي تمارسها أجهزة النظام بحق المتظاهرين. وطالبوا بإقامة دولة مدنية قائمة على الفصل بين السلطات الثلاث. وفيما يلي نص البيان وأسماء الموقعين:

After Arab Revolts, Reigns of Uncertainty
By ANTHONY SHADID,
August 24, 2011, New York Times

DJERBA, Tunisia — The idealism of the revolts in Egypt and Tunisia, where the power of the street revealed the frailty of authority, revived an Arab world anticipating change. But Libya’s unfinished revolution, as inspiring as it is unsettling, illustrates how perilous that change has become as it unfolds in this phase of the Arab Spring.

Though the rebels’ flag has gone up in Tripoli, their leadership is fractured and opaque; the intentions and influence of Islamists in their ranks are uncertain; Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi remains at large in a flight reminiscent of Saddam Hussein’s; and foreigners have been involved in the fight in the kind of intervention that has long been toxic to the Arab world.

Not to mention, of course, that a lot of young men have a lot of guns.

No uprising is alike, but Libya’s complexities echo in the revolts in Bahrain, Syria and, most of all, Yemen, suggesting that the prolonged transition of Arab countries to a new order may prove as tumultuous to the region as Egypt’s moment was stirring.

Unlike at the start of the year, when the revolutionary momentum seemed unstoppable, uncertainty is far more pronounced today, as several countries face the prospect of stalemate, sustained conflict or power vacuums that may render them ungovernable. Already in Yemen, militant Islamists have found a haven. Across the region, the repercussions of the uprisings are colliding with the assumptions of the older, American-backed system: control of oil, the influence of a reactionary Saudi Arabia, an Arab-Israeli truce, and the maintenance of order at the expense of freedom in a region that for decades has been, at least superficially, one of the world’s most stable.

In just the past week, Colonel Qaddafi lost his capital, Tripoli; the United States and European countries called on President Bashar al-Assad of Syria to step down; the president of Yemen, still recovering from burns suffered in an attack, has promised to return; and the relationship between Egypt and Israel descended into crisis, to the jubilation of many Egyptians who saw a more assertive government as a windfall of Mr. Mubarak’s fall.

“There is going to be a transfer of power in our societies, and a new order has begun to take shape in the region,” said Michel Kilo, an opposition figure in Damascus, Syria.

Aug 24 (Reuters) – Arab ministers will hold an urgent meeting in Cairo on Saturday to discuss the situation on Syria, an Arab League official said on Wednesday.

“The Arab League Peace Committee will hold an urgent meeting on Saturday on the latest events in Syria and the League’s secretariat is making calls to know the number of countries and the names of ministers to attend,” the official said, asking not to be named.

The United Nations says 2,200 people have been killed in Syria since the start of a five-month-old uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. (Reporting by Ayman Samir and Omar Fahmy, writing by Yasmine Saleh)

Experts Offer Guidance for President on Syria
4:57 PM, Aug 19, 2011 • By DANIEL HALPER in Weekly Standard

In a letter being circulated by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, conservative foreign policy experts, including Bill Kristol and Lee Smith, urge President Obama take a series of actions that will hasten the fall of Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad. The letter follows President Obama’s statement yesterday that “the time has come for [Syrian] President Assad to step aside.”

The primary recommendation in the letter is that the U.S., together with our European allies, should sanction Syria’s energy (especially oil) and financial sectors, as well as those individuals who are committing human right abuses and promoting terrorism. The experts also argue that the U.S. should “Engage Syrian opposition figures outside the country and ensure that all available aid and assistance, including secure communications and Internet circumvention technology is being made available to these groups” and recall Ambassador Robert Ford from Syria. Here’s the full text of the letter:

Maersk Cancels Tanker Calling at Syrian Port on U.S. Sanctions
2011-08-25, By Rob Sheridan

Aug. 25 (Bloomberg) — Maersk Tankers, a unit of A.P. Moeller-Maersk A/S, canceled a scheduled tanker loading in Syria because it would contravene U.S. sanctions. The Maersk Edward was due to pick up a cargo at the Syrian port of Banias, said Michael Christian Storgaard, a spokesman for the company in Copenhagen. Security was “not an issue as such,” Storgaard said by phone today.

Qatar Emir: Iran visit part of ‘friendly ties’, QNA/Tehran

HH the Emir of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday held a session of official talks at the presidential compound in the Iranian capital Tehran. The session was attended by the members of the high-level official delegation accompanying the Emir

HH the Emir of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani has said his visit to Tehran and meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was part of the “friendly ties” with Iran.

“We have discussed bilateral relations and co-operation between the two countries besides matters of common concern,” the Emir said last night.

On his vision on the developments in Syria, the Emir said all countries that supported Syria in difficult circumstances have tried to encourage our Syrian brothers to take steps to implement a real reform process.

The Syrian people took to the streets in Syria on a real popular and civil uprising calling for change, justice and freedom, HH the Emir added.

The security solution has failed in Syria, the Emir said, noting that the Syrian people are not willing to back down after the price paid.

HH the Emir expressed hope that the decision-makers in Syria would understand the need for change in response to the aspirations of the Syrian people, adding that “we must help them to take such a decision.”

Visa, other cards not valid under Syria sanctions
By ALBERT AJI, Associated Press

Visa and MasterCard credit cards are no longer valid in Syria under new U.S. sanctions targeting Damascus because of its deadly crackdown on a 5-month-old uprising, officials said Thursday.

The Treasury Department this month added the state-owned Commercial Bank of Syria and its Lebanon-based subsidiary to its sanctions list, citing their links to human rights abuses and to illegal weapons trade with North Korea. The action freezes any assets the firms have in U.S. jurisdictions and bans Americans from doing business with them.

In a statement faxed to the AP, the state-run Commercial Bank of Syria said the victims of the sanctions would be Syrian citizens and foreign tourists who will be “obliged to deal in cash with all its undesirable problems.”….

“This will be the key point for Syria … if Arabs stop trading with” the country, said Said Hirsh, Mideast economist with the London-based Capital Economics. He said 60 percent of Syrian exports go to Arab countries. “It’s the Arabs that will be able to cripple (Assad’s regime) more than the international sanctions.”

The move to ban the credit cards, which Syrian banks began issuing in 2005 for local customers, may also affect the country’s influential merchant class – a wealthy cadre of businessmen whose support, or at least lack of outright opposition, is seen as key to Assad’s hold on power.

George Badi, a sales manager at the Dedeman Hotel in Damascus, said the measure will hurt business and wipe out many Internet-based reservations.

“It seems that the U.S. is slapping sanctions on the entire Syrian people not only the Syrian regime,” he said.

Inside Syria’s failed rebellion
Praveen Swami
ON THE EDGE OF AN ABYSS: Syrians demonstrate against the government, in this July 2011 file picture.

President Bashar al-Assad’s government has imposed order — but is yet to slay the three-headed dragon which threatens its survival.

Thick black lines had been scored over the graffiti under the cherubic image of President Bashar al-Assad that guards the road into Hama{minute}a. The military’s clean-up squad had been less than diligent though: the word kalib, dog, survived the paint-brush censorship, and the soldiers had forgotten to have the President’s gouged-out eyes repainted.

Inside the city, the rebels had left behind evidence no amount of paint could obscure: the burned-down military officers’ mess on the Ard al-Khadra street, which mobs stormed in the hope of seizing weapons; the gutted office block which housed the justice department; the charred walls of the al-Hadr police station, pockmarked with machine-gun fire, where 17 police officers were lynched, before their mutilated bodies were thrown into a nearby canal.

Behind the justice ministry’s office, a small group of young men described what happened when the military moved in on July 31, three months after rebel groups, armed with guns, knives and petrol bombs, seized control of much of the town. “They used snipers to shoot at us,” one says, and “more than a dozen people were killed.” The army, he claims, then tied the hands of local residents and forced them to roll on the street, all the while beating them with rifle butts.

Ever since the spring uprising in Syria, the most serious challenge to the regime since it took power in 1970, commentators had been predicting that President al-Assad’s regime was on the edge of collapse. In spite of an energetic western media campaign, largely based on overblown accounts provided by exiled opposition groups, it is in fact becoming clear that the rebellion has all but collapsed: Damascus, for example, is more alive with everyday civic life than New Delhi.

But there is no disputing that Syria’s government is far from slaying the three-headed dragon which threatens its future: a threat from the West; an economic crisis engendered by neoliberal economic reform; and a mounting Islamist threat.
The failed rebellion…..

Turkey’s ‘house of glass’
Thursday, August 25, 2011, Hurriyet
BURAK BEKDİL

Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Çiçek has an explanation for the most recent escalation of violence in Turkey’s southeast: Foreign powers!

Mr. Çiçek’s reply to a reporter’s question as to who these foreign powers are may well earn him a nomination for the 2011 Speech Apraxia Award: “We know who they are… Those who know who they are know who they are… And they (the evil foreign powers) know it’s them.”

In the previous rise of armed conflict between the Turkish military and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, the Turkish government subtly accused Israel for playing the Kurdish card against Turkey – while not minding to play the Hamas card against the Jewish state. Today, it seems, “those who know it’s them” are either the Iranians or the Syrians, or both. But is it not bizarre to see Israel, Iran and Syria in the same camp? A very rare gathering, indeed…

Syria-Russian Venture to Build Oil Rigs From 2016, Watan Says Bloomberg News

The Syrian-European Group for Heavy Industries plans to build a plant that will produce oil rigs from 2016, Al Watan reported, citing a government official.

The company is partnering with Russia’s Uralmash Machine Building Corp. to produce the country’s first drilling rig by early 2016 from the plant that will cost at least 250 million euros ($362 million), the newspaper said, citing Syrian Deputy Oil Minister Hassan Zainab. The factory will manufacture about 10 rigs a year and export some of them to Middle Eastern markets, according to the newspaper.

Syrian-European, established in Syria in 2007 and located in an industrial compound near the central city of Homs, will also produce the nation’s first locally made wind turbine to generate electricity in early 2012, Zainab said.

Libya Rebel Oil Official Says China, Russia Will Have Trouble Getting New Deals

LONDON (Dow Jones)–Global powers who took chilly positions toward Libya’s insurgents–such as China, Russia or India–will have trouble getting new oil contracts in the future, a spokesman for a rebel-controlled company said this week.

The US war of words against Syria is marred by hypocrisy and a lack of realism. al-Jazeera

You’d need a team of linguists to tease out the internal contradictions, brazen hypocrisies and verbal contortions in President Barack Obama’s call for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to relinquish power.

“The future of Syria must be determined by its people, but …”

The “but” belies the preceding phrase – particularly since its speaker controls the ability and possible willingness to enforce his desires at the point of a depleted uranium warhead.

“The future of Syria must be determined by its people, but President Bashar al-Assad is standing in their way. His calls for dialogue and reform have rung hollow while he is imprisoning, torturing and slaughtering his own people,” Obama continued. One might say the same thing of Obama’s own calls for dialogue and reform in Iraq and Afghanistan. Except, perhaps, for the fact that the Iraqis and Afghans being killed are not Obama’s “own people”. As you no doubt remember from Bush’s statements about Saddam Hussein, American leaders keep returning to that phrase: “killing his own people”.

The 5 Things Everyone Should Know about Syria
Robert G. Rabil, August 25, 2011, The National Interest

The Syrian regime is similar to a mafia regime, with al-Asads as the Corleone family…..

Jerusalem Post: Arab World: Is Bashar next?
2011-08-26 13:54:32.543 GMT

The apparently imminent eclipse of the Gaddafi regime in Libya has re-ignited hope among some Western commentators concerning the so-called Arab Spring. The entry of Libyan rebels to Tripoli is being depicted in some circles as the removal of a …

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351. Revlon said:

Field survey of the support of the revolution vs. regime in relation to sect, age, and socio-economical status.
Period of Study: 1st to 25th July 2011
Cham Center for democratic Studies and Human Rights in Syria
2011/08/28
http://www.sooryoon.net/?p=31834

SECTARIAN POLARISATION
1. Supporters of regime
a. 84% of Alawis
b. 62% of Christians
c. 60% of Druze
d. 54% of Ismailis
e. 10% of Sunnis

2. Silent/Neutral
a. 10% of Alawis
b. 20% of Druze
c. 23% of Chrisitians
d. 11% of Ismailis
e. 25% of Sunnis

3. Revolution Supporters
a. 65% of Sunnis
b. 17% of Christians
c. 6% of Alawis
d. 18% of Druze
e. 35% of Ismailis

4. Demonstrators:
a. 66% are <40 years old
b. 71% are poor or middle class
c. 265,000 people: Total count of Friday demonstrators in Damascus and its country side in period of study
d. 155,000 people: Total count of those who demonstrated in Latakia, during the period of study
e. 1 Million: Total count of Friday demonstrators in Hama during the period of study
f. 8 Million: Total count of Friday demonstrators across Syria, during the period of study

5. Atrocities against protestors from the beginning of protests until end of study
a. 500 Incimmunicados since the beginning of the protests
b. 2356 Incommunicados since May up until endo of study.
c. 3642 civilian martyrs “104 of which were children and 13 women”
d. 19650 Wounded
e. 23,000 Imprisoned
f. 700 Count of army and security deaths; There is probably a similar number of executions of defectors.
g. 38,000 Count of shabbeeha used during the period of study; Most are released criminals and ex-cons, unemployed, and Bath party activists.
h. 1350 and 3500 tanks and vehicles used in occupying various cities until end of study.
i. 1700 count of foreigners involved in special operations; they include Iraqi’s, Iranians, and Lebanese
j. 22 Count of cities and towns invaded by Military forces until end of study; their population totals 8,700,000.

Note All demonstrations reported during the period of study were peaceful.

الاستقطاب الطائفي في سورية : توزيع الطوائف حسب دعمها للثورة او النظام
2011/08/28
مركز الشام للدراسات الديمقراطية وحقوق الإنسان في سوريا
http://www.sooryoon.net/?p=31834

مركز الشام للدراسات الديمقراطية وحقوق الإنسان داخل سورية , المركز تم تأسيسه في عام2006 وضم مجلس أمنائه عدد من النشطاء والمفكرين السوريين و العرب الذي يعتز بهم مركز الشام وشكلوا عبر مساره مشاعل يستنير بها ومارس عدة نشاطات هامة في مجال مراقبة الانتهاكات التي قامت بها السلطات شكل مركز الشام مع عدة منظمات أخرى “الشبكة السورية لحقوق الإنسان “في عام 2007 والتي مالبث أن انسحب من عضويتها بسبب موقف الشبكة المساند للنظام السوري .

هذه الإحصائية اشرف عليها مركز الشام للدراسات الديمقراطية وحقوق الإنسان بما فيهم مدير المركز , وشارك في عملية البحث الميداني عدد من النشطاء المتطوعين من مختلف المحافظات – في الفترة مابين الأول من تموز حتى 25 تموز لعام 2011 والبحث انتهى قبل الحملات القمعية الأخيرة والتي بدأت قبل شهر رمضان والتي شكلت مرحلة تحول في عمليات القمع ضد الشعب السوري , كان البحث سريا حفاظا على الباحثين أو المشاركين فيه .وهذا العمل المضني ماهو إلا عمل تطوعي تم تمويله من قبل المتطوعين أنفسهم فقط .
تنبع أهمية هذا البحث الإحصائي ليس فقط في إلقاء الضوء على الكلفة البشرية المرتفعة للثورة السورية والمتمثلة في عدد الشهداء والجرحى والمعتقلين , ويشيرايضا إلى مستوى القمع الوحشي الذي يجابه به النظام التظاهرات السلمية , والاهم انه يشير إلى ماهو مسكوت عنه .

أولا: الاستقطاب الطائفي:
استخدم البحث في النسب المئوية , أسئلة موجهة إلى شرائح عشوائية من كل طائفة أو منطقة مؤلفة من50 شخص . طالت الأسئلة الغير مباشرة وبطرق مختلفة أكثر 750 مواطن سوري.
ا – المؤيدون للنظام الحاكم :
1 –%84 أربع وثمانون من الطائفة العلوية – بلغت النسبة المؤيدة بصورة هستيرية وغير طبيعية أو مفهومة حوالي %98 بالمائة عند النساء وفئة الشباب العاطل عن العمل أو الذين يعملون في مهن غير قانونية” الشبيحة” وهو العامل الذي رفع النسبة العامة لدى المؤيدون من الطائفة, بينما كان التأييد من بقية الشريحة مبني على الخوف من المستقبل وعدم وجود تطمينات جدية من المعارضة لمستقبل الطائفة , بينما شكل المحايدين أو المؤيدين للإصلاحات دون تغيير النظام أو المؤيدين للثورة بصورة تامة نسبة عالية بين المثقفين.
2 –60% بالمائة من المسيحيين .
3 – 62%اثنان وستون بالمائة من الدروز.
4 -54% أربع وخمسون بالمائة من الإسماعيلية ..
5 – 10%عشرة بالمائة من السنة.
2 – الصامتون أو المحايدون :
1 – 10% عشرة بالمائة من العلويين –” نسبة العلويين إلى السكان 8- 10% تقريبا”
2 – 20% عشرون بالمائة من الدروز.” عدد المواطنين الدروز في سوريا حوالي 500 إلف نسمة تقريبا”
3 – 23% ثلاث وعشرون بالمائة من المسيحيين” نسبة المواطنين المسيحيين بمافيه السريان والآشوريين والكلدان 14% تقريبا”
4 – 11% إحدى عشر بالمائة من الإسماعيلية “عدد المواطنين الاسماعيليين في سوريا 700 ألف تقريبا ”
5 – 25% خمس وعشرون بالمائة من السنة ،نسبة المواطنين السنة والطرق الصوفية 60% ” من الشعب السوري دون الأكراد , بعضهم مؤيد للإصلاحات دون تغيير النظام وبعضهم متردد حيث يستنكر المجازر لكنه يفضل الانتظار “كما في حلب وبعض أحياء دمشق الكلاسيكية .
3 – المؤيدون للثورة :
1 – 65 % خمس وستون بالمائة من السنة.
2 17% سبعة عشر بالمائة من المسيحيين.
3 -6% ستة بالمائة من العلويين الذين يشكلون حوالي 8 -10% من الشعب السوري تقريبا.
4 – 18% ثمانية عشر بالمائة من الدروز.
5 –35% خمس وثلاثون بالمائة من الإسماعيلية.

ثانيا – المتظاهرون:
- قدر متوسط عدد الذين شاركوا في المظاهرات خلال أيام الجمع في فترة البحث, في مختلف أحياء دمشق وريفها فقط حوالي 265 ألف شخص, بينهم أكثر من ستة عشر ألف امرأة.
- نسبة الشباب تحت سن ال 40 حوالي 66% تقريبا.
- نسبة الفقراء منهم أو من الطبقة الوسطى 71% تقريبا .
- بلغ عدد المتظاهرين بصورة يومية في مدينة اللاذقية حوالي ستة ألاف شخص وبلغ متوسط إجمالي العدد خلال مدة البحث في نفس المدينة مع أيام الجمع 155 ألف متظاهر.
- بلغ إجمالي عدد المتظاهرين في مدينة حماه في أيام ” الجمعة” خلال فترة البحث أكثر من مليون متظاهر من مختلف الأعمار.
- بلغ متوسط عدد الذين شاركوا بالتظاهرات في جميع أنحاء سوريا خلال أيام الجمع في فترة البحث.8 مليون شخص تقريبا.

ثالثا – الانتهاكات والجرائم المرتكبة بحق المحتجين:
- اعتمدنا في تقدير عدد الضحايا والمتظاهرين على شهادات العديد من المواطنين وعلى إفادات نشطاء لحقوق الإنسان ونشطاء سياسيين وتوثيقات بعض النشطاء المنشورة في أدبيات أو صفحات الفيس بوك, واعتبرنا أن المختفين الذين لم يظهر لهم أي اثر منذ بداية الانتفاضة وحتى لحظة اختتام هذه الدراسة هم من الضحايا حتما وعددهم يفوق ال500 ضحية . واعتمدنا على معلومات أيضا وصلتنا من مصادر خاصة. هذه الاحصائيات منذ بداية الانتفاضة .
- بلغ عدد الشهداء حوالي 3642 شهيد منهم 278 من مدينة اللاذقية لوحدها.
- عدد الأطفال منهم 104 طفل أعمارهم اقل من خمسة عشر سنة.
- عدد النساء 13 امرأة .
- عدد الجرحى حوالي 19650الف جريح.
- عدد المختفين منذ بداية شهر أيار وحتى نهاية البحث حوالي2356 شخص.
- عدد المعتقلين حوالي 23 ألف معتقل.
- عدد قتلى الجيش والأمن الذين تم الإعلان عنهم 732 قتيل , ووصلتنا معلومات شبه مؤكدة على وجود عدد مماثل اعدموا أو قتلوا في درعا بسبب انشقاقات داخل الجيش وتم إخفاء أنباء قتلهم وإخفاء جثثهم.
- عدد جرحى الجيش والأمن 1800 جريح.
- عدد الشبيحة الذين استخدموا للتنكيل بالمتظاهرين خلال فترة البحث وأهالي المدن السورية 38000 ثمانية وثلاثون ألف شبيح جّلهم من المجرمين العاديين الذين اخرجوا من السجون أو المهربين أو العاطلين عن العمل والمخبرين وبعضهم أعضاء في حزب البعث الحاكم.
- بلغت عدد الدبابات والآليات المشاركة في حملة احتلال المدن السورية وقمع الشعب السوري حتى نهاية البحث 1350 دبابة و3000 آلية أخرى بين سيارات مصفحة و شاحنة وغيرها.
- تم رصد أعداد من العراقيين والإيرانيين واللبنانيين يتم استخدامهم في مهام خاصة ولم نستطع الوصول إلى معلومات دقيقة أو تقديرية حول أعدادهم “تقول معلومات أكدها مصدرين فقط أن عددهم يصل إلى حوالي 1700 شخص ”
-عدد المدن المقتحمة عسكريا حتى نهاية البحث 22 مدينة وبلدة وقرية بلغ عدد سكانها جميعا حوالي700 ,8 ثمانية مليون وسبعمائة ألف إنسان.

ملاحظة : جميع المظاهرات التي خرجت خلال فترة البحث كانت سلمية تماما .
17-8-2011
مركز الشام للدراسات الديمقراطية وحقوق الإنسان في سوريا

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August 28th, 2011, 1:30 pm

 

352. Syria no kandahar said:

SGID specialty is shopping for demonstrations in Damascus.That is his full time job .Part time he goes to churches and investigate damage done to them.when
He dos’t see damage he gets upset يلعن هل الحظ.Don’t worry,if your criminal friends get in power,churches in Damascus will have the same treatment your terrorists friends in Baghdad are doing.Then you can be more helpful to terrorists by investigating churches and plan attacks….good willing that will make you مشروع شهيد

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August 28th, 2011, 1:32 pm

 

353. Aboud said:

SGID, you earned yourself a menhebak whine. Mabruk bro :)

And what do fake secularists like @352 have in store for churches? It doesn’t matter, the world will never need to find out. Right now Besho is as popular as a pig at a Saudi Ramadan feast.

“38,000 Count of shabbeeha used during the period of study; Most are released criminals and ex-cons, unemployed, and Bath party activists.”

Yeah, that sounds about right. Give an amnesty to car thieves and burglars, and draft them into the shitbiha.

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August 28th, 2011, 1:45 pm

 

354. ann said:

NATO vs Israel: Actions Supports Conspiracy Theory – August 28, 2011

Kosovo … Libya … Palestine? Tripoli Today, Tel Aviv Tomorrow?

Are the uprisings in the Middle East all part of a NATO conspiracy against Israel, the only democracy in the region? Confidential Reporter has a basketful of facts, figures and players–including George Soros–to back up the contention. Readers might do well to remember, “A conspiracy theory is just news that you haven’t seen on your TV yet.”

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011/08/nato-vs-israel-actions-supports-conspiracy-theory/

August 28, 2011
The Conspiracy to Use NATO Against Israel
Foreign Confidential ™

A chilling, admittedly rushed early warning from Foreign Confidential™ analysts … upon information and belief, as lawyers like to say.

A once unthinkable conspiracy is afoot–to deploy NATO forces against a strategic U.S. ally that is also the only democracy in the Middle East.

The country is Israel, of course, the tiny Jewish State that has never known a day of peace since its miraculous rebirth in its ancient homeland.

Barack Obama’s reelection is central to the perfidious plot. Obama is the only U.S. Presidential candidate who is sufficiently hostile to Israel to go along with the conspiracy, as the potential usefulness of the only anti-Israel GOP hopeful, Ron Paul, is neutralized by his marginal appeal and old-line isolationism (recalling the likes of aviator Charles Lindbergh and other Nazi supporters and sympathizers in the years leading up to the Second World War).

The Conspirators

The three (European-born) authors of the anti-Israel conspiracy are Jimmy Carter’s former National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama foreign policy advisor Samantha Power, and her patron, George Soros, the anti-Zionist, leftwing billionaire. Brzezinski, who was the architect of the Carter administration’s intervention in Afghanistan on the side of Islamist warlords–before and in order to bring about the Soviet invasion of that country–and the brain behind the administration’s catastrophic complicity in the Islamist overthrow of Iran’s pro-American, modernizing monarch, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, has advocated U.S. downing of Israeli warplanes if Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear installations without Washington’s approval. Power has proposed using U.S. and United Nations troops to impose a “Responsibility to Protect” (Palestinians) solution on Israel.

The Longterm Objective

The conspiracy’s longterm objective is to use the R2P doctrine and the Kosovo-inspired intervention in Libya’s civil war–on the side of Al Qaeda-connected Islamists–as a precedent for forcing Israel to withdraw to indefensible borders in order to create a “contiguous Palestinian state,” as Obama put it in a recent speech, consisting of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, which is already a de-facto independent, Islamist state; the disputed “West Bank” territories of Judea and Samaria, and East Jerusalem, which Israel liberated from Jordan in the Six-Day War of June 1967; and a land corridor connecting Gaza with the aforementioned inland areas west of the Jordan river. It is further understood that Hamas will emerge as the ruler of the combined, new entity, and that this inherently irredentist mini-state will eventually merge with a Muslim Brotherhood-ruled country in what is now the Kingdom of Jordan following the inevitable overthrow of the Jordanian monarchy, thus creating an Islamist Palestine on both sides of the river Jordan that will ultimately “liberate” all of Palestine–meaning, the destruction of Israel, whose very existence the conspirators regard as a historic “mistake” and the root cause of regional instability.

The Crucial Player

NATO-member Turkey, Obama’s model Islamocracy, is a crucial player in the plot. Turkey’s Prime Minister recently called for U.N. airstrikes on Israel. More important, Turkey is a major military power and a potential existential threat to Israel, especially given a scenario in which Israel would be forced to defend itself on at least two land fronts–i.e. against Egypt and Jordan/Palestine.

Like their Shiite Islamist Iranian rivals, Turkey’s Sunni Islamist leaders have adopted an imperialist foreign policy–i.e. a policy that aims to overthrow a nation’s power relationships with other nations, known as the status quo. But Turkish imperialism, in contrast with Iranian imperialism, is supported by the Obama administration. Having failed in their efforts to appease and align with Iran in order to pacify Afghanistan and the Middle East, Obama and his advisors are now bent on backing the emergence of an Islamist, neo-Ottoman Empire, hoping to use a Greater Turkey as both a bulwark against a nuclear-armed Iran and a sword against resurgent Russia and rising China and their strengthening ties–Obama’s answer to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Political and overlapping organized and state Islam is the tool; the vast energy resources of Central Asia, the prize; countering Russia and dismembering China, by stirring rebellion among restive Muslims, priceless! (Click here to read more about this new version of the Great Game.)

The Unknown Factor

Syria is the unknown factor–a potential spoiler whose actions could actually facilitate and accelerate the conspiracy, causing its implementation in the coming months, as shocking as this may seem. With the fall of Libya’s dictator, all eyes are on Syria’s embattled despot. Turkey has hinted at intervening in the Muslim Brotherhood-backed, Sunni, majority, Syrian uprising against the hated, Iran-backed, Alawite (Shiite branch) minority, Assad regime; and Obama has explicitly called for Assad’s resignation. When push comes to shove, Syria could attack Israel to get back at the United States and muddy the waters. Damascus and Tehran have already indirectly attacked Israel, using Egyptian Islamist and Gaza-based, Palestinian Islamist terrorists as proxies, in order to distract attention from the Syrian regime’s atrocities and brutality. This year’s cross-border, Nakba-Day riots were similarly orchestrated by Syria and Iran.

An Israeli response to a direct Syrian assault would most likely bring Iranian proxies Hezbollah and Hamas into the conflict, and, quite possibly, Iran, itself, which has repeatedly vowed to “burn Tel Aviv” and bomb Israel’s Negev nuclear reactor. Should Israeli population centers come under heavy missile bombardment, crushing Israeli airstrikes against Gaza and Lebanese targets–missile launchers deliberately positioned in and around densely populated civilian areas–would almost certainly result in international condemnation of Israel (the only nation that is not allowed to defend itself) and thunderous calls for UN action against the Jewish State, setting the stage for another phony R2P intervention.

NATO against Israel?

It’s a horrible thought. But history has time and again shown that the unthinkable can happen.

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August 28th, 2011, 2:11 pm

 

355. Revlon said:

Operation Wa2dulfitnah in Laylat AlQadr
AlRifa3i Mosque,
Damascus
27 Aug 2011

Jr’s mob ram sacking the Mosque lobby and brutally beating a man!

In his latest, convenietnly unpublicized speech V, Jr claimed that ethical problems were at the core of the current crisis, and that embracing the ethics and values of the Islamic religion should be the right remedy!

27 8 Damascus أوغاريت دمشق اقتحام قطعان الأمن والشبيحه مسجد الرفاعي بأحذيتهم في ليلية القدر

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August 28th, 2011, 2:11 pm

 

356. Tara said:

Ammar Shami

Let me remind you what you told us in the main post.  I quote ”During the start of the events I visited my dentist in Bab-touma, a Christian part of town. The same day I was there a group of armed men stopped in front of the church and sprayed it with bullets. This story never made it to the news even though I saw the bullet holes with my own eyes.”

Let me now point to the discrepancies in your story:  you said you were at your dentist in Bab-Tuma when this happened and you went on to tell us that you saw the bullet holes with your own eyes as stated above.  

SIGD checked all Bab Tuma churches and found no evidence.  When asked to name the church in Bab-Tuma, you needed to call the dentist (even though you saw the bullet holes with your own eyes while in Bab-Tuma area) and then you informed us it is the Saliba church that turned out to be in kassaa area.  Well, SGID checked Saliba church in kassaa and found no evidence.

Your seeing bullet holes with your own eyes was apparently a  ”lie”.  I am sorry to be blunt but this is the truth.  My advise, if you insist to post on SC, post under new name because Ammar Shami name lost all credibility.  

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August 28th, 2011, 2:16 pm

 

357. ann said:

‘Netanyahu asks US to delay UN ‘Marmara’ report 6 months’

Channel 2 reports PM told the US that in six months time he expects to be stronger politically and better able to deal with the consequences of the Palmer Commission report’s publication.

08/28/2011 20:41

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=235757

Channel 2 reports PM told the US that in six months time he expects to be stronger politically and better able to deal with the consequences of the Palmer Commission report’s publication.
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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has asked the United States to delay publication of the UN report on last year’s raid of the Mavi Marmara flotilla ship by six months, Channel 2 reported on Sunday.

According to the Channel 2 report, Netanyahu told the US that in six months time he expects to be stronger politically and better able to deal with the consequences of the report’s publication.

RELATED:
‘Turkey may cut economic ties over ‘Marmara’ apology’
Opinion: Israel-Turkey relations and the silent revolution

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced on Friday that the Palmer Report on the Marmara incident will be postponed for the third time and will be published at the beginning of next month, according to Army Radio. The report was originally to be released on May 15, but was postponed at Turkey’s request.

Ban said that that the reason for the postponement was to give Israel and Turkey more time to a find a formula to renew full diplomatic ties.

The report – whose details have been widely reported – upholds the legality of Israel’s naval blockade of the Gaza Strip, but takes the IDF to task for using disproportionate force in enforcing the blockade.

Turkey is keen to bury the report, because while far from being a pro-Israel document, by upholding the legality of the blockade it places some of the responsibility for the flotilla fiasco on Turkey’s shoulders.

Turkey is demanding Israel apologize for the incident, pay compensation to the families of the victims, and lift the blockade of Gaza.

Israel has so far refused to apologize, although there is discussion about Israel apologizing for “operational mishaps” that led to the loss of lives. Nine Turkish citizens were killed on the Mavi Marmara when some of the passengers on the ship attacked IDF commandos who landed on it to enforce the blockade.

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August 28th, 2011, 2:25 pm

 

358. Mr.president said:

The Syrian Muslim Brothers claim that they represent Syrian Sunnis. Can someone tells us what percentage of Sunnis they actually represent?

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August 28th, 2011, 2:32 pm

 

359. ann said:

Turkish military tear gas Kurdish protest, politician killed

August 28, 2011

http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=306267

A Kurdish politician was killed Sunday after being struck by a tear gas cartridge fired by military police to disperse protesters near Turkey’s border with Iraq, witnesses and security sources said.

The protesters were demonstrating against Turkey’s recent air strikes on Kurdish rebel bases in Iraq.

Yildirim Ayhan, a provincial assembly member of the southeastern province of Van, died after the tear gas cartridge hit him in the chest, as the military police attempted to disperse a crowd of protesters in the town of Cukurca, witnesses and security sources said.

“The superiors of the soldiers opposite to us suddenly ordered them to intervene. They started to fire tear gas. One of the cartridges hit Ayhan and we saw him slumping,” a witness told AFP.

“He was bleeding from his chest,” another witness said.

Security sources confirmed Ayhan had been struck by a gas canister, but said an autopsy would determine the cause of death.

Pro-Kurdish media published photographs of Ayhan lying on the ground with a bleeding chest wound.

Thousands of people from 16 different provinces started to march on Saturday towards the Turkey-Iraq border to demonstrate against the army’s bombing raids on bases of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in northern Iraq.

The PKK, listed as a terrorist group by Ankara and much of the international community, took up arms in the Kurdish-majority southeast in 1984, sparking a conflict that has claimed about 45,000 lives.

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August 28th, 2011, 2:37 pm

 

360. Husam said:

SS and sf94123:

Ok fine, I confess (it is not easy for me) I am only a moderator in training. I get carried away sometimes. Now you can put back your thumb in your mouth.

sf94123, please behave! You don’t want me to send el-moukhabarat to you on Alhambra St. in San Franscisco, do you? Are you shitting your pants now?

OTW:

It was understood long ago that SC is not the place to discuss fiqh, no one is qualified for deep analysis in Islam or any other religion. As you said a true atheist is not selective. However, here we have cowards and lunatics of 21st centrury who are afraid of the Islamic sword, brrrrgh! I appreciate reading some of your comments but there isn’t enough brain cells unfortunately here to engage into a constructive respectful discussion.

You don’t see continuous debate about Judeo-Christian machinations to control the middle east on SC. All you see is Islam is the source of all evil ills of the world b.s.

I think scarcasim, is more enjoyable nowadays – Rodents style.

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August 28th, 2011, 2:48 pm

 

361. Afram said:

ALI SINA,THANKS….WE ATHIESTS LOVE YOUR WORK/AFRAFM
Allah wants to see women illiterate

Women are second grade people in Islam:

In Islam, jihad is the best form of worship of Allah. What is jihad? Islamic jihad is the most barbaric incitement, the world has ever seen, to commit indiscriminate and large scale homicide. In plain words, jihad means indiscriminate killing of kafirs, plundering their wealth, occupying their land and other properties by sword, fire and rape. We should see what two prominent Muslim leaders have said about jihad.

It has been mentioned in an earlier article that to explain the ultimate aim of jihad, Ayatollah Khomeini, the leader of Islamic Revolution in Iran said, “Jihad means the conquest of all non-Muslim territiries. Such a war may well be declared after the formation of an Islamic government worth of that name … It will then be the duty of every able-bodied adult male Moslem to volunteer for this war of conquest, the final aim of which is to put Koranic law in power from one end of the earth to the other. … We have no recourse other than to overthrow all governments that do not rest on pure Islamic principles. … That is not only our duty in Iran, but it is also the duty of all Moslems in the world, in all Muslim countries to carry the Islamic political revolution to its final victory.”

Ayatollah Khomeini

It has also been mentioned that, to explain jihad, another Muslim leader Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Hassan Yassin, the founder of Hamas, said, “Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says, “Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender [to the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! Sons of Islam everywhere, the jihad is a duty – to establish the rule of Allah on earth and to liberate your countries and yourselves from America’s domination and its Zionist allies, it is your battle – either victory or martyrdom.” He has also claimed responsibility for a number of suicide attacks targeting Israeli civilians.

Ahmed Yassin of hamas

Most importantly, Islam does not have any program to turn its followers into an educated workforce for creating wealth. In Islam, Muslims are not supposed to create wealth, but they are to acquire it by launching jihad against the infidels, or in other words, by looting or plundering the wealth of the infidel kafirs. So, in reality, Islamc jihad is an economic enterprise. But due to their physical weakness and mental softness, it is not possible for the women to participate in cruel and brutal acts of jihad and due to this reason women in Islam have no importance in fiercely male dominated Muslim society. All the benefits are supposed to be enjoyed by men alone and women are to serve the males as slaves. Or in other words, their status is no better than domestic animals. They are just machines for satiation of the sexual lust of the males and breeding would be jihadis.

So, they must be covered by head to foot black burqas and forced to remain indoor so that light of wisdom may not reach them. They should be kept in total darkness so that they may not revolt against the severe male-domination and could be used like slaves or domestic animals. Mr Arlene Peck, in his article “Arab Men Treat Their Farm Animals Better Than Their Women”, writes, “The animals and woman do, however, have one thing in common: both are used for breeding. In the case of Islamic fundamentalists, women are used as breeding stock for future terrorists, or now, often, as suicide bombers. Come to think of it, goats and camels are treated better. They’re not forced to wear those hot and repressive burkas.” [1]

He also writes, “Women begin their lives under the control of a dysfunctional mind which demands that they submit to them in every way. … Hey, if a woman in that garden spot of the world, Saudi Arabia, isn’t allowed to vote, drive a car, or go out of her house without a man to control her movements, … Arab men can’t stand the thought that their women might be allowed sexual enjoyment. After all, they are only good for breeding. So, with this in mind, female children are subjected to genital mutilation, … Heaven forbid that an Arab woman ever has a relationship with another man or has been raped by her father, brother, cousin, etc. It would be the innocent girl’s fault and she would probably be killed for the sexual conduct forced upon her. Even the goats have it better. No one kills the goat to avenge anyone’s honor. Tens of thousands more have been murdered in honor killings. …. Hell, I think pre-caveman? Cultural practices and overly patriarchal societies – which vary from one country to another – are what dictate a woman’s place in this region. Abuse and discrimination are rampant.”[1]

We see the Muslim scholars babble the lie day and night that, merciful Allah has given equal status for men and women. But according to Muslim law of inheritance, a daughter can only claim of her father’s property half of that allotted for the son. So, the Koran says, “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.” (4: 11) Furthermore, the merit of the witness of a woman, in the court of law is simply the half of that of a man. So, the hadith says, “The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The woman said, “Yes”. He said, “This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”(Bukhari: Vol3, Book 48, No.826) “Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman.” (Ishaq:584) “In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.” (Ishaq:185)

According to Islamic theology, women are not equal to men as women are deficient in intelligence. A hadith by Bukhari, in this regard says, “Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.” ( Bukhari Vol.1:Book 6:No 301)

Women are unclean and impure in Islam:

“Women in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt”, says Brigitte Gabriel [2] (They must be Stopped, p.171,172) In the eye of Allah, women are so impure and unclean that if a man, who intends to join a prayer and touches a woman after taking bath, he must purify himself again before joining the prayer and Allah says, “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter, nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.” (Qur’an 4:43)

Islamic scholars are telling lies day and night and discovering the verses of equality, dignity, and prosperity for women in Quran and Hadith. But it seems that Allah is not prepared to allow dignity to women and permit them to enjoy human rights. On the contrary, Allah condemns them as unclean and impure as a pig, or a donkey or a dog. A Bukhari hadith in this regard says – “Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, “You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs. By Allah! I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I disliked to sit and trouble the Prophet. So, I would slip away by the side of his feet.” (Vol 1, Book 9 No.493)

Another hadith may be quoted in this context – “Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of ‘Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.” (Muslim, Book 004, Hadith 1032)

“That dogs have jinns within them? WHAT? We are all of God’s creatures. Dogs are the types of animals that are so well suited to be a domestic pet because of their natural affinity towards human beings. They have brought so much love and solace to humans over the years. How on earth would our God tell man to not keep a dog or that they are unclean or that a jinn resides in them or that we cannot pray near them or where they are kept? This is preposterous. I can understand the fact that we maybe should not eat pigs because they eat other animals and possibly excrement as well, that doesn’t sound too apealing, however fish and sea creatures eat other fish but they are deemed halal? How is this fair?”, asks a rational lady commentator.[3]

Some hadiths say that, Muhammad had raised the status of women from dogs and pigs to horses. Allah’s Messenger had said, “Umar b. Muhammad b. Zaid reported that he heard his father narrating from Ibn ‘Umar that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) had said. If bad luck is a fact, then it is in the horse, the woman and the house.”(Muslim, Book 026, Hadith 5526) The Prophet said: “Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying. There is no transitive disease, no ill omen, and bad luck is lound in the house, or wife or horse.” (Muslim, Book 26, Hadith 5524) “First of all thanks to Prophet Muhammad to uplift the status of woman from pigs and dogs to horse! Or is it evolution of Islam over ages? (We know that Quran and other Islamic books continued to be written ages after Muhammad’s death”, says a commentator.[3]

Women become severely unclean while menstruating:

“Narrated ‘Aisha: A woman asked the Prophet about the bath which is to take after finishing from the menses. The Prophet told her what to do and said, “Purify yourself with a piece of cloth scented with musk.” The woman asked, “How shall I purify myself with it” He said, “Subhan Allah! Purify yourself (with it).” I pulled her to myself and said, “Rub the place soiled with blood with it.” (Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 6, Number 311)

During the fair well pilgrimage (or Hajjatul bida), in 10 AH, by the Prophet, Ayesha accompanied him. But after reaching Mecca, she started menstruating. She was, therefore, prevented from performing tawaf (circumbulation) of the Kaaba by the Prophet. Islam does not permit a woman to pray while she is in menses. So a woman asks, “Please tell me why it is that I can’t pray whilst menstruating? I am too unclean to pray? Yet, I am told I can still make du’a, yet what is du’a if not prayer? Basically telling me that even if I were to ritualistically wash myself (make wudu) I am not clean enough to pray yet tells me I can pray directly to God inside my head without prostration? How does that make sense exactly?? What is the whole point of the wudu then? At all? Also, I am not supposed to touch the Quran during my period? Or to visit a Mosque. What kind of God would differentiate between a male and female when they want to be close to God?” [3]

Re menstruation of the women, Allah said, “It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.” (Tabari I:280)

As women are unclean and impure, they are barred from entering a mosque to offer prayer. In fact, women are not permitted to offer prayer in public. Indian Muslim women made history on November 24, 2007, by praying in public in the city of Cuttack, Orissa, outside a mosque, by defying the fatwa of the local cleric. But Muslims scholars believe that Allah does not accept their prayers. Since women are devils, they can’t perform prayers. Their prayers will be cut off automatically in the very beginning due to their own dirtiness.

“According to verse (4: 43) of Quran, touching a woman is equivalent to touching shit and urine! Women are more unclean and polluted than dirt! As per 4 above, dirt is supposed to purify the polluted hands and face of Muslims who have touched woman. But one thing is confusing, that a child is loved, kissed and fed by his mother. How can this verse be applicable to him? Or, is Quran an adult literature, which has no significance to children? What do Muslims do while eating the food cooked by the dirty hands of a woman? Is food washed before eating or rubbed into dirt? What about the men (including Muhammad), who have/had the same blood flowing through their veins as that of their mothers (who are dirty as per Islam)? This whole body is formed in the womb of that dirty (?) woman, so why don’t Muslims keep on rubbing their bodies in dirt every time?” asks a commentator.

Women of Cuttack, Orissa, praying in public
Women are also not permitted to enter the paradise in their next life, and Allah will throw them into the hell-fire. A Bukhari hadith, in this regard, says, “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.” (Bukhari: Vol 1, Book 22, No 28) Similarly, a Muslim hadith says, “O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.” (Muslim::Book 1, No.142)

In fact, women are so wretched that Allah permits a Muslim husband to murder his wife out of starvation by confining her in a room under lock and key and refusing food and water. So, Allah says, “As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).” (4: 15)

Women are sex-slaves in Islam:

In Islam, women are the properties of men and he may be her father, brother or her husband; she is not permitted to go outdoor without the accompany of her male guardian. In this regard, Allah says, “Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So, good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted and Great.” (4: 34)

It is needless to say that, through this verse, Allah has dragged the status of women to chattel or moveable property that can be bought by spending money. Today, there are many instances where women earn and provide for men. “You can see lazy men smoking hookah and the women work and earn. There are women who have mastered martial arts and are stronger than mullahs. Allah, his Quran and his prophet have all been proved wrong”, says a commentator.

Muhammad said: woman is like a rib. When you attempt to straighten it, you would break it. And if you leave her alone you would benefit by her, and crookedness will remain in her. (Muslim, Book 08, N0. 3466) A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty and her religion. (Muslim, Book 08, No.3457)

Regarding the women whom a Muslim can marry, Allah says, “Forbidden unto you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your father’s sisters, and your mother’s sisters, and your brother’s daughters and your sister’s daughters, and your foster-mothers, and your foster-sisters, and your mothers-in-law, and your step-daughters who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in – but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) – and the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have two sisters together, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (4: 23)

It becomes evident from the verse quoted above that, except a few very closely related, a Muslim can marry, or turn into a sex-slave, any woman he desires. The verse also says that, in certain cases, he can marry his step daughters. There are many examples to show that Muslims do not feel shy to have sexual relation with their own daughters. Shah Jahan, the famous Mughal Emperor of India used to have sex with his two daughters.

This sex-slave status for the women gets confirmed when Allah enables the men to keep four wives at a time by nikah and any number of concubines by mutah, or by keeping any number of slave girls simply as sex-slaves. In this regard, Allah says, “And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.” (4: 3) The sex-slave status of women becomes clearer when Allah allows Muslim men to divorce his wife/wives by simple oral triple talaq. Nearly a year ago, a Malaysian Muslim divorced his three wives by sending SMS within 10 minutes, in a court room.

So, Allah says, “Divorce must be pronounced twice and then (a woman) must be retained in honour or released in kindness. And it is not lawful for you that ye take from women aught of that which ye have given them; except (in the case) when both fear that they may not be able to keep within the limits (imposed by) Allah. And if ye fear that they may not be able to keep the limits of Allah, in that case it is no sin for either of them if the woman ransom herself. These are the limits (imposed by) Allah. Transgress them not. For whoso transgresseth Allah’s limits: such are wrong-doers.” (2: 229)

“And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again if they consider that they are able to observe the limits of Allah. These are the limits of Allah. He manifesteth them for people who have knowledge.” (2: 230) The (2: 230) says a more perilous and terrifying consequence for dignity and self respect for a woman. The verse says that, if a husband utters the word “talaq” thrice, even on the point of rage during a domestic quarrel, without an intention to divorce his wife, his wife would be unlawful for him.

To make her lawful, she has to be given in marriage to another man and if her new husband divorces her, after consummation of the marriage, then and then only she will be lawful for her original husband. The customary practice in Muslim society in such a case is to hire a person of the street, called Mostahel, engage him as her husband, at least for a night, and who is supposed to divorce her in the morning facilitating the original husband to take back his divorced wife. Such a temporary marriage is called a “hilla marriage”.

While commenting on this mediaeval, barbaric practice of the Muslim society, Sir W Muir wrote, “Such flagrant breach of decency, such cruel violation of the modesty of an unoffending wife, may be an abuse the full extent of which was not at the contemplated by Mohammad; but it is not the less an abuse for which, as a direct result of the unnatural and revolting provision framed by him, Mohammad is responsible.”[4]

He also wrote, “Many lovers or gallants cause less shame to a woman than one Mostahel. … It must not be forgotten that, all the immorality of speech and action connected with this shameful institution and the outrage done to the female virtue (not necessarily for any fault of the wretched wife, but the passion and thoughtlessness of the husband himself) has solely out of the verse (1/230) quoted above.”[4]

It should be noticed here that the said practice of easy divorce, simply by uttering the word “talaq” thrice, has enabled the Muslims to refresh their harems by driving the older lot out and inducting newer and younger ones. In this context, it should be mentioned that Hassan, the son of Ali and grandson of prophet Muhammad utilized this sanction of Allah to the fullest extent. He used to bring new wives through the front door and drive out same number of wives, by simple oral talaq, through the backdoor, without transgressing the limit set by merciful Allah not to keep more than four wives at a time. It is said that in this way he married more than hundred wives. It is highly ridiculous that the Shi’a Muslims across the world express their grief, on 10th Muhrram, over the death of such lecherous man.

As women are simply sex-slaves, Allah permits a Muslim to let one to hire his wife or wives; or exchange wives between them (Koran 4: 20). An example may help the reader understand this practice. When Abdur Rehman, a close associate of Muhammad, came to Medina from Mecca, his friend Sa’d bin-Rabi of Medina sheltered him in his house. The said Abdur Rehman had 16 wives and many slave girls in his Meccan house. However, after dinner, it came to bin-Rabi’s mind that his friend may feel uncomfortable for want of a woman. He summoned two of his wives and asked his friend to choose one of them. Abdur Rehman selected one by raising his finger and bin-Rabi divorced her at once and ordered her to sleep with his friend. The incident is enough to show that the status of a woman in Muslim society is no better than a prostitute or a sex-slave.

Allah permits Muslims to rape or sodomize their wives:

The Koranic verse, in this regard, says, “Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).” (2: 223) In Islam, the husband’s sexual desires must immediately be met by the wife. The prophet of Allah said,”When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at any other job.” The wife must not withhold sex from her husband. A few hadiths may be quoted in this regard. “Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “If a man invites his wife to sleep with him and she refuses to come to him, then the angels send their curses on her till morning.”(Bukhari: Vol 7, Book 62, No.121) “Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: When a woman spends the night away from the bed of her husband, the angels curse her until morning.” (Muslim: Book 8, No.3366)

It becomes evident from the verse (4: 23) of the Koran quoted above, that barring a few very close relations, Muslims are permitted to marry any woman they like. If you can marry a woman, you can rape her as well. So, raping close kin is prevalent in Muslim society. This sanction of Allah turns every Muslim household into a mini whorehouse, where father rapes daughter, father-in-law rapes daughter-in-law, uncle rapes niece, brother rapes his cousins and so on. But the victims are to remain mum and tolerate all these atrocities silently, because to establish her allegation, according to Shariah law, she has to produce four male witnesses (which is next to impossible). If she fails, she runs the risk of convicted of committing an adultery that calls for a punishment like stoning to death.

Though I have discussed this incident in a previous article, I feel it worthy of repeating the same here. In one occasion, a beautiful lady came to the mosque of Medina to meet the Prophet. But her presence aroused intense sexual passion in the Prophet. He immediately ran to his house, which was adjacent to the mosque, and asked Jainab bint-Jash to satiate his passion. At that moment, she was busy with tanning a sheep’s skin. But she had no alternative but offer her body to be raped by the Prophet. Raping of a wife has been elaborately discussed in an article “Raping A Wife: Can a Husband force Intimacy on His Wife?” in FFI. In the said article, the author writes, “The woman does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her, so long as that will not harm her or keep her from doing an obligatory duty.”

It has also been mentioned above that Allah approves extremely harsh punishments for any sexual impropriety on the part of the woman. She could be starved to death (4: 15), stoned to death or simply murder her as an act of honor killing. Or in other words, violation from her sex-slave status calls for violent punishment. In a civilized society, sex has to be negotiated by the couple, not demanded in a dictatorial way. But Islam allows a man to force her wife to sexual act without her consent and thus to treat as a sex-slave.

Conclusion:

From the above discussions, it becomes evident that, in the Muslim society, women do not have a status equal to that of a man and Allah puts value of a woman just the half that of a man. Secondly, Allah condemns the women as an unclean and wretched lot and prohibits their entry into his paradise. The intention of Allah, according to the verse (4: 34) of the Koran, is to keep the women economically dependent on men. So, if they receive education and become economically self sufficient, it will be a challenge to the instruction of Allah. So, they are not to be allowed to receive education after the age of 8 years. After that, they should remain indoor and read only the holy Koran, so that they remain stuck to the civilization of 7th century AD.

At the same time, they should be covered with head to foot burqa, so that they may not get enlightened and remain to be used by the men as sex-slaves, a sex object to be raped by the men. If they become enlightened by receiving modern education, they would acquire strength to protest the oppressions heaped upon them by men. So the most appropriate step is to keep them illiterate and thus to keep them remain as sex-slaves of the males. But, in many Islamic countries, women are being enlightened by receiving and have started to question Islam. We hope to these developments in a future article.
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[1] http://www.brookesnews.com/072805peck.html

[2] Brigitte Gabriel, They must be Stopped, p.171,172)

[3] http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/letters/soon-to-be-ex-muslimah/

[4] Sir W Muir, The Life of Mahomet, Voice of India, 337

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August 28th, 2011, 2:52 pm

 

362. uzair8 said:

A question for the muslims of Syria.

- Muslims and 80 yr old Sheikhs beaten up in the mosques in a muslim majority country in the month of Ramadan.
- Mosques and Quran being desecrated.
- Muslims forced to prostrate to Bashar. Also forced to say ‘There is no God but Bashar’.

Do you still want this secularism?
Why are muslims being humiliated like this? Is this divine punishment? Have we strayed from Islam?

Islam tells us if we stray then Allah SWT will allow the worst of us to become our rulers. Is this not happening now? The thugs, criminals, Shabeeha, Bashar worshippers etc.

May Allah SWT guide us all.

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August 28th, 2011, 3:15 pm

 

363. OFF THE WALL said:

HUSAM,

First, thank you for your concerns. But if I recall correctly, you argued a while a go that SC is not the place to discuss fiqh, but i do not really recall that being considered as understood, or agreed on. Off course, there are much more authoritative places for that, but unfortunately, these places are replete with both good arguments, and much outdated ones. At the same time, when an Islamophobe shows up and start spewing hateful comments , i believe it is my duty as a Secular Humanist to point the fallacy of the argument and to point to alternative sources of information, interpretations, and ideas even if those do not conform to the traditional understanding of the subject. My job is not to judge the theological validity of the source, for that is not relevant to my way of thinking, it is merely to point that it exists as a counter argument to the hateful rhetoric.

Also, please notice that the article about the Library of Alexandria was an issue of history not of fiqh. I merely demonstrated that AFRAM and his mentors, be it the opportunist Wafa Sultan or this guy SINA are liars when it comes to history and facts, let alone ignorant when it comes to issue of theology or science. When one uses historical narratives that have already been discredited by authorities on the subject, letting that slide by is not a habit of mine. If anyone tries to discredit the holocaust, i will do the same. I believe there are tonnes of brain cells around the SC maze, and these are the ones I write for, whether they like what I write or not.

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August 28th, 2011, 3:38 pm

 

364. Norman said:

Can we try to have a plan for Syria instead of trying to discuss Islam that i and most of us are not qualified to do,

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August 28th, 2011, 4:00 pm

 

365. ziadsoury said:

I recommend this book to all of you. It applies to countries run by thugs as well

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Fear-Barrier-Destroys-Companies/dp/1595620540/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314561722&sr=1-1

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August 28th, 2011, 4:04 pm

 

366. Mjabali said:

General blitz the video game media specialist:

Wafa Sultan is one brave woman. She has been talking against al-Assad for a long time.

She wrote stating her stance against the rule of al-Assad.

Clowns like you with their Salafi/Nazi mind deny her stance because she is a critique of Isalm.

As for your baloney theory of average age was 30 : your man was a prophet and should set up an example with his life not do the same as the others. You are defending a losing idea and still trying to come up with nonsense.

As for your miserable defense about whom the majority of Muslims consider المغضوب عليهم/the ones god is angry with, or those who are astray: all I have to say is read what I posted earlier regarding your sheikh Ibn Taymiyah’s views.

You are nothing but a(edited for accusation), by the way still believe the Americal and the British learned from your beloved Nazis on D Day mr. Goebblez?

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August 28th, 2011, 4:11 pm

 

367. OFF THE WALL said:

Norman
Don’t blame me, Besho’s latest speech attempted to make the two issues one and the same. He told us that he is pursuing a plan for Assadian Islamic Republic, outbidding the MBs, the Mullas of Iran, the Shabab movement, the Talibans, and his own band of clapping Ulamas such as Bouti and Hassoon. It has not yet sunk with the menhebbaks. They probably are trying to reconcile that with him being proclaimed a god and a and prophet by the Shabehas.

I am waiting…..

Wafa Sultan is an opportunist. It is as simple as that.

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August 28th, 2011, 4:12 pm

 

368. Humanist said:

It’s depressing to see that many muslims seem to think that the regime perhaps destroying ONE minarete/mosque is WORSE than the regime and (to a lesser extense) islamic “rebels” killing THOUSANDS of HUMAN BEINGS.
I’m atheist, but i think the Alevi-Bektashis in Turkey have a great saying:
“Benim Kaabem Insandir”
Try to understand what it means!

(sorry for bad english)

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August 28th, 2011, 4:16 pm

 

369. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Dear OTW,

Thanks you for your comment. I want to answer to that, but soon, not tonight.
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August 28th, 2011, 4:19 pm

 

370. OFF THE WALL said:

HUMANIST
Benim Kaabem Insandir
Loved it…, it sums things up pretty well. I may even frame it.

AMIR
Take your time please, you have been patient with me, it is the least I can do.

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August 28th, 2011, 4:26 pm

 

371. Humanist said:

Assad’s religious speech reminds me of Saddam after the Kuwait war. All SO CALLED “secular” arab dictators seem to become “VERY RELIGOUS” when they are LOOSING (wars and/or popularity).

They probably know: Religion is the opium for people.

just wait and he will put “Allahu Akbar” around the stars on the Syrian flag like the other great “secular” Baath leader did…

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August 28th, 2011, 4:28 pm

 

372. uzair8 said:

I suspect the beating of a famous 80 yr old Sheikh was deliberately designed to send a message to other Scholars not to speak out. The regime must we very worried that the silent and government scholars may speak out against the regime.

Like Sheikh Yaqoubi said the scholars know what is going on but they see the terror and horror and are scared to speak out.

Anyway, a gift for my muslim brothers and sisters. Here is an english Nasheed (Al Muallim – Sami Yusuf) in praise of our beloved Prophet Sallalahu Alaihi Wa Salam.

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August 28th, 2011, 4:34 pm

 

373. Aboud said:

“Wafa Sultan is an opportunist. It is as simple as that.”

Well said. I have no respect for anyone who wants atom bombs dropped on Muslim countries. She tells the conservative Christian right and Jewish hardliners what they want to hear, and then reaps the benefits.

Some of the sayings of the prophet

To every young person who honors the old, on account of their age, may god apoint those who shall honor him in his years.

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Verily, to honor an old man is showing respect to God.

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A giver of maintenance to widows and the poor, is lke a bestower in the way of God, an utterer of prayers all the night, and a keeper of constant fast.

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I and a woman whose color and cheeks shall have become black from toiling in the sun shall be near to one another in the next world as my two fingers; and that is a handsome widow, whose color and cheeks shall have become black in bringing up her family.

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There are seven people whom God will draw under His own shadow, on the day when there will be no other shadow; one of them a man who hath given alms and concealed it, so that his left hand knew not what his right hand did.

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Dunno about you but I’d rather listen to such a man than Wafa “Nuke Mecca” Sultan, or Besho “I am God or else my thugs will beat you up”

@366 So I’m a Salafi Nazi now? LOL! You people are hopeless :)

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August 28th, 2011, 4:35 pm

 

374. ann said:

*** is Barack / Hillary next? ***

Analysis: Merkel vulnerable as euro and Libya backlash builds

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-merkel-vulnerable-euro-libya-backlash-builds-142136157.html

BERLIN (Reuters) – Germany’s Angela Merkel faces the biggest challenge to her leadership since coming to power in 2005, with traditionally loyal conservative allies openly criticizing her approach to the euro zone crisis and her hands-off Libya policy in shambles.

Seen for much of the past six years as a reliable, steady leader whose competence and knack for brokering deals made up for a lack of bold vision, Merkel’s image has taken a beating over the past months and polls show an increasing number of Germans view her government as directionless.

The chancellor’s troubles can be traced back to two decisions taken in March, when she abruptly dropped her long-standing support for nuclear power in the aftermath of the Fukushima disaster in Japan, and days later backed Germany’s abstention from a U.N. vote authorizing military action in Libya.

Coming shortly before a crucial state election, which her conservatives subsequently lost, the steps looked to many in Germany and abroad like cynical political ploys to placate domestic opinion.

But it is Merkel’s piecemeal approach to the euro zone’s worsening debt crisis that has come under fire over the past week and now threatens her iron grip on power in Germany.

For some in Germany, she has gone too far by bailing out stricken euro zone members and agreeing to intervention in the bond markets to prop them up. For others at home and abroad, she has not done enough, shirking bold steps that might solve the debt crisis because they would be unpopular at home.

This conflict will come to a head next month.

Merkel’s coalition has a comfortable 20-seat majority in the lower house of parliament. But if she is hit with dissent in her own ranks, and is forced to rely on opposition parties to pass legislation to expand the single currency bloc’s rescue mechanism — the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) — then her coalition could collapse, sparking early elections.

“The euro crisis entered a new phase over the past week,” influential German weekly Der Spiegel said on Sunday.

“Before the main question had been how the common currency could be saved. Now it is also about saving Merkel’s chancellorship. If her coalition does not deliver a majority for the enhanced euro rescue mechanism in the autumn, people close to the chancellor say, the coalition is all but finished.”

ALLIES NERVOUS

The chances of Merkel failing to secure her own majority in the EFSF vote, which is likely to take place on September 23, still seem slim.

Her Christian Democrats (CDU), hovering at a weak 30 percent in opinion polls, have little incentive right now to bring forward an election that is not scheduled to take place until the autumn of 2013.

Merkel’s conservative bloc — composed of the CDU, Bavarian Christian Social Union (CSU) and Free Democrats (FDP) — has shown discipline in previous euro zone aid votes, with only a handful of lawmakers rebelling.

“I expect she will get majority backing from her own coalition,” said Gerd Langguth, a political scientist at Bonn University and biographer of Merkel, putting the number of dissenters at around fifteen.

“If it’s not enough, Merkel would be forced to resign. It would lead to a crisis. No one is interested in an early election.”

Still, the risks to the chancellor cannot be completely discounted. Her traditional allies are growing nervous about the direction of the party, which suffered a new blow this month when one of its regional leaders was forced to resign for having an affair with a 16-year old girl.

Critical voices from within the party have grown louder over the past week, with senior CDU lawmaker Wolfgang Bosbach vowing publicly to vote against the EFSF increase and popular Labour Minister Ursula von der Leyen — seen as a potential successor to Merkel — wading into the euro zone debate with comments that went against official policy.

Perhaps most damaging of all, however, was former Chancellor Helmut Kohl’s rare public criticism of his protege last week. Kohl plucked Merkel out of obscurity in East Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, bringing her into his cabinet and helping to launch one of the most unlikely and astonishing political careers that Germany has ever seen.

In an interview with newspaper Internationale Politik, Germany’s longest-serving post-war leader and father of reunification broke his silence and unleashed a broadside against Merkel’s foreign policy, saying it lacked direction and risked undermining Germany’s global influence.

“The enormous changes in the world can be no excuse for having no view or idea where you belong and where you are going,” Kohl, 81, said.

LIBYA EMBARRASSMENT

Germany’s decision five months ago to join with China and Russia in refusing to back the U.N. resolution on Libya looks even worse now that dictator Muammar Gaddafi has been toppled.

Until recently, Merkel had successfully deflected blame for that decision onto her Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, who embarrassed the government last week by suggesting that economic sanctions, rather than NATO air strikes, had played a decisive role in forcing Gaddafi out.

Westerwelle, who was forced to relinquish his position as leader of the FDP in April, may be forced out as foreign minister too if his party is booted out of regional parliaments in Berlin and the eastern state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern next month.

“If the elections end up going badly for the FDP, I can well imagine the pressure on Westerwelle will become too strong,” said Klaus-Peter Schoeppner, head of polling group Emnid.

Many in Germany would see the departure of Westerwelle, the close Merkel ally whose success in the 2009 election helped vault her to a second term, as a symbolic blow for the chancellor as well.

However the biggest threat to her hold on power, should she survive the EFSF vote next month, could be the slowing German economy. Data over the past two weeks showed that Europe’s biggest economy ground to a virtual halt in the second quarter of the year.

Business confidence plunged this month by its largest amount since shortly after the bankruptcy of U.S. investment bank Lehman Brothers in 2008. Some economists now see the risk of a recession in Germany.

The country’s robust rebound from the global economic downturn of 2008/2009, and sinking unemployment, was one asset Merkel thought she could count on heading into the next election.

Now that support is crumbling too, wiping away some more of the magic that she exuded in her first years in office, when she was celebrated in Germany and abroad as the “Gipfelkoenigen” — or Summit Queen — for brokering deals with in the EU and G8.

“Her downfall may not come from the euro crisis, but simply from the fact that she has lost the shine, the sure footing that she had at the start,” said Josef Joffe, editor of German weekly Die Zeit.

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August 28th, 2011, 4:38 pm

 

375. annie said:

I deserted Pirates of the Caribbean on TV to come slumming at SC. It is slumming all right when reading some of the menhebbaks words of wisdom. I did some skipping.

On the other hand I read ALL of Aboud’s clever and to the point comments; I do not miss one line of Tara, Hamster, SYR.EXPAT and SHAMI. I am sure I forget someone but I feel kind of dizzy after these 362 posts.

I do not comment on Syrian affairs because I do not feel qualified, but you know how much I love your country and how I long to be back.

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August 28th, 2011, 4:47 pm

 

376. Tara said:

Annie

And we love you too!

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August 28th, 2011, 4:51 pm

 

377. Humanist said:

Just so you all know: “Benim Kaabem Insandir” (By Haci Bektas Veli)

= “MY KAABA IS THE HUMAN BEING”

Why was someone negative to this? Is it “heretic” to you?
Muslims (and the rest of the world probably) really have a lot to learn from Alevi humanism.

Aren’t humans more holy than buildings?

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August 28th, 2011, 5:07 pm

 
 

379. Akbar PalaceJO said:

Aboud,

Can you provide a link showing that Wafa Sultan “wants atom bombs dropped on Muslim countries”?

Conversely, I can show you lots of quotes showing Islamic organizations and countries calling for the eradication of the one and only Jewish country.

Perhaps this is why Jews like myself applaud individuals like Wafa Sultan, especially when she confronts “mainstream Islamic rejectionism” (my term).

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August 28th, 2011, 5:10 pm

 

380. Khalid Tlass said:

SGID,

Be careful of what you do and posting it publicly on the internet, please Akhi. Its still not safe and the regime is still not finished, I would not want anything bad to happen to a great guy like you who is such an asset to Syria. Plaese be careful abt your safety, this regime pays people salaries to search the internet for courageous people like you and track them down.

Aboud,

If you know of any reservist who has received a call-up, advise him not to answer it (even if somebody thinks that we will be able to harm the regime even more if we get into the Army). Caling up the reserves is a TRAP to kill or imprsion able-bodied young anti-regime men. The regime fears an eventual armed insurrection and wants to finish off the resrvists first. Advise everybody to ignore it, its like walking into the lion’s den, at this moment.

To SNK, Afram and MJabali,

Enfoncer les perdants, les laïques faux, nous allons traquer Maher et sauter la cervelle. Perverts, votre jeu est terminé! Préparez vous à être traqués et tués comme des souris prise au piège

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August 28th, 2011, 5:16 pm

 

381. Muhammad said:

القاشوش يصل إلى إدلب

سورية أوعي تخافي صار دور الزرافة بعد رفيقو القذافي
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
زنكة زنكة دار دار بدنا نشيلك يا بشار بعون الباري الجبار
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
آزادي آزادي والحرية لبلادي وبصوت عالي منادي
يلا ارحل يا بشار
طاق طاق طاقية بشار فقد الشرعية والشبيحة الأسدية
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
رن رن يا جرس ماهر خاين للحرس وعا دم الشهيد رقص
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
ألف باء تاء ثاء انتهى زمن الاستفتاء ضبي جوزك يا أسماء
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
يخرب بيتك يا أنيسة خلفتك والله خسيسة خلت عيشتنا تعيسة
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
يا حافظ قوم شوف عمنسبك عالمكشوف بمئات الألوف
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
بلا مخلوف وبلا شاليش انتهى زمن التحشيش وبسلام بدنا نعيش
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
وجود يا أورينت جود جرم الأسد مالو حدود وتسلم يا غسان عبود
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
يا طالب يا ابراهيم الله يلعنك لئيم النصر آتي يا غشيم
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
يا نصرالله ويا نجاد راح زمن الاستبداد الله معنا يا أوغاد
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
لا موسكو ولا بكين كلون خونة مجرمين عالشعب السوري متآمرين
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
ويا عرب شوفونا للظالم تركتونا حاجي والله دبحتونا
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
تركيا ليكي ليكي واللهي احترنا فيكي مندعي الله يهديكي
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
ولواء ضباطنا الأحرار انتوا حماة الديار وشدوا الهمة يا ثوار
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
وللمعارضة الخارجية كونوا ايد قوية بدنا وحدة وطنية
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
ولأهالينا اللاجئين انتوا وسام عالجبين والله مو نسيانين
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
سيد عيسى لا تهتم بشار النعجة مافي دم حل عنا يا أصم
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
ارفع راسك يا شحود بدنا نشيل هالنمرود باذن الواحد الودود
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
على العين يا مشلح ولا منهدا ولا منفرح حتى يسقط هالأفكح
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
وعلى الراس يا سليمان وكرمال عينك يا حسان بدنا نشيل هالثعبان
ويلا ارحل يا بشار
يا حمودي يا غريب ما مننساك يا حبيب وبدنا نشيلوا للطبيب
ويلا ارحل يا بشار

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August 28th, 2011, 5:18 pm

 

382. Aboud said:

@379 Look up her wikipedia entry. Wafa Sultan tells you what you want to hear. Frankly I have little use for her, or her admirers.

We are known by the friends we keep, and the enemies we make, and your admiration for this opportunistic nobody tells me alot about you. But hey, it’s your time, you are free to choose your role models.

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August 28th, 2011, 5:31 pm

 

383. beaware said:

Gül: We lost all trust in the Syrian regime
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=gul-we-lost-all-trust-in-the-syrian-regime-2011-08-28
ANKARA – Hürriyet Daily News
Sunday, August 28, 2011
There is no place for authoritarian regimes in today’s world, Turkey’s president and prime minister say, urging the Syrian regime to end operations against its people if it does not want to follow in the footsteps of Libya’s Moammar Gadhafi and Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak. ‘We have lost confidence [in Syria],’ Gül says

Turkey warned the Syrian regime Sunday that its fate will be no different from those of the former Egyptian and Libyan leaders unless it ends military operations against its people and starts a meaningful reform process.

“In today’s world, there is no place for single-party governments, [for] authoritarian administrations. The leaders of these countries will take the initiative or they will be changed by force,” President Abdullah Gül told the Anatolia news agency in a comprehensive interview Sunday.

“Clearly we have reached a point [in Syria] where anything would be too little, too late. We have lost our confidence,” Gül said while describing the current state of affairs in the neighboring country.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivered a similar message to Syria in his monthly address to the Turkish nation late Sunday.

“No regime that uses heavy weapons and brutal force to kill unarmed people who take to the streets can stand. The only way is to end military operations and heed people’s demands. We are sadly observing the fates of those who have not chosen this way in the last few months in Tunisia, Egypt and currently in Libya,” the prime minister said.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been engaged since mid-April in a brutal crackdown on protesters who demand more rights and freedoms. The ongoing unrest is the latest in a chain of Arab revolts that have already overthrown long-standing regimes in Tunisia, Egypt and, through force, in Libya. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu held a six-hour meeting with al-Assad in April, but his efforts fell short as Damascus continued its violent suppression. Activists claim more than 2,000 people have been killed by security forces since the uprising began in the spring.

Despite Gül’s and Erdoğan’s strong statements against the Syrian leadership, Turkey is still reluctant to join the U.S.-led chorus calling on al-Assad to step down as there is no obvious potential candidate to fill the power vacuum that would be left behind.

“We made a huge political investment in Syria, this is clear. [Seeing whether we] could possibly help contribute to the transition of Syria was our sincere intention,” Gül said. “Everyone must know that for us the most important thing is the well-being of the Syrian people.”

The president said he was receiving daily intelligence reports from Syria that contained detailed information about the latest violent incidents. “Last Thursday, 17 people were killed. We felt really sad. The incidents are said to be ‘finished’ and then another 17 people are dead. How many will it be today?” Gül said.

Al-Assad going the way of Gadhafi?

Reflecting the same approach to Syria, in even stronger language, Erdoğan in his speech Sunday night compared al-Assad’s fate to that of Gadhafi and Mubarak, who were both forced to give up their decades-old authoritarian reigns.

Humanity’s conscience cannot tolerate what is going on in Syria, Erdoğan said, urging al-Assad to take lessons from the developments in other countries in the region.

“There is no place for single-man governments, dictatorships and closed societies. As we have reminded the leaders of Egypt, Tunisia and Libya of this fact in the past, we are doing the same today to the administrations in Syria and Yemen,” Erdoğan said. “They must learn the lesson and end this cruel violence imposed on civilians whose only wish is to voice their demands.”

Praise for Libyan opposition
more…

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August 28th, 2011, 5:41 pm

 

384. beaware said:

German prize for Syrian poet
Sunday, August 28, 2011
BERLIN – The Associated Press
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=german-prize-for-syrian-poet-2011-08-28
Adonis received the prize for bringing modern European ideas and critical thinking into current Arab culture.

Syrian-born poet Adonis has become the first Arabic-speaking author to receive one of Germany’s most prestigious literary awards, the Goethe Prize of the city of Frankfurt. The 81-year-old Adonis accepted the award on Sunday in Frankfurt.

Born Ali Ahmad Said in northern Syria, Adonis fled his homeland for political reasons as a young man.

He received a scholarship to study in Paris from 1960-1961. From 1970 to 1985 he was professor of Arabic literature at the University of Lebanon. In 1976, he was a visiting professor at the University of Damascus. In 1980, he emigrated to Paris to escape the Lebanese Civil War. In 1980-1981, he was professor of Arabic at the Sorbonne in Paris.

He is a pioneer of modern Arabic poetry. He is seen as a rebel, an iconoclast who follows his own rules.

The jury praised Adonis for bringing modern European ideas and critical thinking into current Arab culture by using classic poetic images based in the traditions of Arabic poets.

The Goethe Prize, worth $72,000, is awarded every three years on Aug. 28 “Goethe’s birthday” to someone whose works are deemed to reflect the spirit of the German literary giant.

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August 28th, 2011, 5:46 pm

 

385. Norman said:

OTW,

The problem with president Assad is that because he is an alwat, he feels that he has to be more Islamic than the Muslim brotherhood, Ataturk did not care about that.

This is what i said as a comment to Ehsani’s article,

Ehsani,s post is very stimulating and the best thing about it is that it offers solutions instead of shouting at the Assad family as we see on other blogs ,they call Assad a dictator now ,what will they call him if has the same powers as the Sheikh of Dubai ,the Syrian government should get smarter and know that you do not need to manage a business to be partner in it, In the US through taxes the federal government is my partner for about 39% and the state of NJ for about 12% Syria,s government can do the same and the desire of private business to make more will translate int more income for the government then it can pay higher wages to government employees . judges and police then ask them not to accept bribes and make it illegal to bribe or accept bribes with a free phone number to report violators and ask local prosecutors to follow up on complains with undercover operations and prosecution ,Syria tried to lift subsidies on some products only to have the opposition complaining about the high prices ,Syria has to lift the subsidies if it wants to stop smuggling but needs to protect the poor by providing food stamps and coupons for heating oil to the proven poor ,the money saved can be used to increase the wages of all government employees ,about privatizing government projects ,the government should stop starting new projects that private business can start and sell projects that are not profitable and limit it,s investment to projects that are needed and can not be established by the private sector.The Syria government should encourage small business as it is the catalyst for the economy and to decrease unemployment and increase GDP as it is more than 50% in many economies .

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August 28th, 2011, 5:47 pm

 

386. beaware said:

Turkey playing “opportunistic” role in Syrian crisis – Syrian Kurdish leader
27/08/2011
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=26374
By Shirzad Shikhani
Erbil, Asharq Al-Awsat –Abdel Hamid Darwish is the leader of the Democratic Progressive Kurdish Party in Syria, and served as Vice Chairman of the National Council of the 2005 Damascus Declaration for National Democratic Change.

The Damascus Declaration was a historic statement of unity by Syrian opposition figures criticizing the Syrian government as being “authoritarian” and ‘totalitarian” and calling for “reform” based upon dialogue and cooperation. The al-Assad regime failed to meet the demands of the Damascus Declaration, which in part led to the popular uprising against the al-Assad regime being seen in Syria today.

Asharq Al-Awsat spoke with prominent Syrian Kurdish leader Abdel Hamid Darwish about the situation in Syria, his hopes for the future of the country, and the best way to resolve the current unrest being seen throughout Syria.

The following is the full text of the interview:

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Since the beginning of the Syrian uprising, many people have complained that the Kurds have failed to take a strong and decisive position regarding the situation on the ground. Indeed some say that Syrian Kurds are pursuing a policy of appeasement towards the al-Assad regime, what is the reason for the Kurdish indecision?

[Darwish] It is not fair to accuse the Kurds of having a different position than that of all other Syrian citizens, for the Kurds were, and continue to be, among those who have called and fought the most for freedom and democracy in Syria, especially as the Kurds suffered the most at the hands of this totalitarian and fascist regime. Our suffering was two-fold, first as Syrians, then as Kurds. It is important that we be aware that the Kurds occupy a special and sensitive position [in Syria] with regards to the areas where they live alongside their Arab and Assyrian brothers. We were extremely fearful at the beginning of the uprising that the Kurds would, once more, be subject to accusations of separatism, isolation, and other ready-made accusations.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] We previously heard the al-Assad regime promise to grant Kurdish citizens Syrian nationality, although this has yet to be implemented. Do you believe the al-Assad regime will fulfill its promises to the Syrian Kurds and to the people of Syria in general?

[Darwish] The events that were seen in Kurdish cities in 2004 [Al-Qamishli riots] were orchestrated by some of the ruling elite, and such incidents have only increased the suffering of Syria’s Kurds. This incident was used as a pretext to increase Syria’s security grip on the Kurds and to increase its policy of suppression and oppression of the Kurdish people. The issuance of Decree 49, granting Syrian nationality to the Kurds, took place after the beginning of the uprising and under exceptional circumstances for the ruling regime, and therefore I do not expect the current regime to grant the Kurdish people any national rights.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] From the statements issued by some Syrian Kurdish leaders, we can see that the ceiling of the Kurdish national demands has been raised, to the point of demanding the establishment of an autonomous Kurdish federal region. Do you believe that this is possible under the current al-Assad regime? Or is there a possibility for this to be established following a successful Syrian revolution?

[Darwish] The Kurd’s struggle focuses on finding a just democratic solution to the Kurdish Cause in Syria, and this solution – and its form – will follow a cooperational path between the Kurds and Arabs. As for statements issued by one individual or party, these reflect their own personal or partisan viewpoint. In this regard, I am not optimistic that the current regime will be able to find an appropriate solution to the Kurdish Cause, whilst at the same time I look forward to a future away from suspicion and doubt, a future where Syria will be for all of its citizens; Arabs, Kurds, and Assyrians, free from persecution, following the success of the uprising.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] With the exception of the 2005 “Damascus Declaration” which was signed by “secular and religious, Arab and Kurdish” political opposition figures, the Kurdish political relations with Syrian opposition parties and figures is practically non-existent. How can the Kurdish opposition play an effective role in drawing up the future of Syria, if there is no political coordination?

[Darwish] This is not true and contrary to reality. We have good relations with all components of the [Syrian] opposition. This is not to mention the Damascus Declaration; I was also Vice-Chairman of the Damascus Declaration National Council, which – at the time – represented the largest Syrian political opposition framework.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Many Syrian political opposition conferences and summits have been held since the beginning of the Syrian uprising, however the Kurds have protested at the deliberate “marginalization” of their role within the opposition. What is the reason for this?

[Darwish] It’s true that a number of summits were held by the [Syrian] opposition abroad in the recent period, and in some of these [summits] the Kurds were given a weak role, although I would not describe it as “marginal.” In any case, we are relying upon the [Syrian] opposition at home, which represent the foundation [of the Syrian opposition], although we appreciate the efforts of the [Syrian] opposition abroad.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] There are real Kurdish fears regarding the future role of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, who enjoy clear Turkish support. Why is there this Kurdish fear regarding the role of the Muslim Brotherhood?

[Darwish] Let me tell you frankly, I am not afraid of the role of the Muslim Brotherhood or any other peaceful Islamist trends, particularly as the Muslim Brotherhood – or any other [political] religious organizations – do not have a presence in the Kurdish regions [of Syria]. In my own opinion, I see no reason why we should fear the Muslim Brotherhood or exclude them from political participation, or persecute them in any way.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] There have been a number of calls for a national conference of Kurdish political parties to be held [to discuss the Syrian crisis]. Where have the efforts to hold such a conference reached? What are your hopes from such a conference? Is it even feasible to hold a Kurdish national conference in light of the [political] divisions within the Syrian Kurdish community?

[Darwish] Efforts are being exerted by Kurdish parties to hold a Kurdish national conference, and such efforts have made great strides towards achieving this goal, and I hope that we will succeed in holding such a conference despite all the difficulties and obstacles that we are facing.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] What is your view of the future of Syria, particularly in light of the al-Assad regime’s insistence on pursuing a security solution, rather than a political one? There are a number of scenarios that Syria might follow, including even the Libyan scenario, i.e. an armed uprising against the regime. What is your opinion of this?

[Darwish] The ruling regime, by continuing to pursue a security solution to the crisis, has committed a grave mistake, for the situation cannot be resolved in this manner, and this is only causing greater problems. If there are any such parties calling for arms to be raised to confront the regime, as you claim, then I do not support this.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] There have been concerns about a civil war igniting in Syria, and the situation on the ground shares some features of a civil war, including Arab tribes – living in Kurdish regions of Syria – threatening the popular demonstrations taking place in Kurdish cities. Do you believe that we might see any confrontation between the Kurds and Arab tribes or Syria’s Christian community in the future?

[Darwish] Civil war is certainly something destructive and to be feared, however the Syrian people are educated and alert, and will certainly not allow the country to slide into such a dangerous outcome. The Syrian Kurds are part of the [Syrian] people, and they have strong relations with their Arab and Christian brothers, and they will not allow any chance for fighting or confrontation.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] The Damascus Declaration, which was a strong oppositional framework, has now been largely marginalized following the recent events in Syria, do you think this there is any possibility of this document playing a future role in Syria?

[Darwish] I will not hide the fact that the Damascus Declaration has lost much of its power and influence since its inception, and this was due to the suppression and persecution carried out by government authorities against its leadership and principles. Even so, this framework had a substantial impact on Syrian society, and it will no doubt occupy a prominent place in the future.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] The Libyan rebels, with the escalation of events in the country, formed a “National Transitional Council” that was recognized by most of the international community. With NATO cooperation, the Libyan rebels then managed to overthrow the Gaddafi regime. Do you think the Syrian opposition should form a national transitional council?

[Darwish] The [Syrian] national opposition remains divided at home, and we are exerting effort to – first and foremost – unite, and after we are united then we will decide what must be done.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Would you favor international intervention in the Syrian crisis?

[Darwish] We do not support foreign military intervention, but this does not mean that we reject political pressure being exerted on the ruling regime in order to push it to respond to the Syrian people’s demands for freedom and democracy.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Turkey has intervened in a clear manner in the Syrian crisis; do you accept this regional intervention, particularly as Turkey has its own fears regarding the growing Kurdish role in Syria?

[Darwish] The Turkish role in relation to what is happening in Syria is opportunistic and hesitant; they are waiting for an opportunity to guide the course of events in the direction that best serves their own interests.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] With regards to foreign intervention, can you tell us if the Syrian Kurdish parties are in contact with the Kurdistan Regional Government, particularly regarding your own party and its relations with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani’s Patriotic Union of Kurdistan [PUK]?

[Darwish] We have strong relations with all other Kurdish parties, particularly with the PUK and its leader President Jalal Talabani; however our policies stem from our own experiences and position within Syria…although this does not conflict with our good and brotherly relations with other Kurdish parties.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] The US position towards the situation in Syria has now reached the stage of Washington calling for al-Assad to step down. What do you think is the best way out for the Syrian crisis?

[Darwish] In my opinion, the way out of this crisis is for the regime to respond to the people’s demands, and this can be achieved after the opposition unifies and puts an end to its internal division, which the [al-Assad] regime is benefiting from. The political pressure being exerted by the international community, human rights organization and international public opinion has reached the stage today where it can affect the situation on the ground and benefit the Syrian people’s struggle for freedom and democracy.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you think there is any possibility of a military coup taking place and the Syrian regime being overthrown from within? How would the Syrian opposition deal with this?

[Darwish] The prospect of the regime being overthrown from within in order to put an end to the crisis facing the country remains a possibility, and may be the solution that is most in harmony with reality and the interests of the Syrian people.

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August 28th, 2011, 5:53 pm

 

387. True said:

“The Assadians started to arrive Spain to attend the legendary wedding of (Gameel Alassad’s granddaughter & Rifaat Alassad’s grandson) on 15th Sep”

• It might be a desperate move in order to show some unity within the family
• A clear symptom of denial disorder
• It might, I hope, be a cover-up operation to justify fleeing out the Assadians women and kids
• This anticipated “legendary” party is fully financed by Rami Makhlouf so pretty much the poor Syrian would pay for it

@ Menehbeks, Your God “Besho”, Maher and Rami can’t make it to the party, you know they can’t get a VISA lol, are you all invited?

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August 28th, 2011, 5:55 pm

 

388. Humanist said:

Assad is either a secular pretending to be islamist or a islamist pretending to be secular. He is either pseudo-secular or pseudo-islamist. Something is just very FAKE about him

He tries to win both, but are instead probably loosing both.

I think Syria (and all arab contries) needs a HONEST and STRICT leader, secular OR islamist. BOTH will eventually lead to secularism and even atheism.

I will tell you why

*The best examples of this “method”:
1. Soviet union central asia/caucasus and 2. Islamic republic of Iran.
1. The “muslims” in the former soviet states (like Azer.) are still the most secular in the world thanks to the ATHEISM campaign from Lenin and co.
2. The “muslims” in Iran are also leaving religon like the soviet muslims did, but now because of the ISLAMIC campaign from Khamaini and Co.

*INSTEAD
Pseudo-secularism creates most religious extremism. just look at iran under the shah, Iraq under Saddam, Egypt under Mubarak, Syria under AssadS. They seem to have/had the worst islamist population…

WHAT DO YOU THINK, (REAL) SYRIAN SECULARISTS?

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August 28th, 2011, 6:00 pm

 

389. Aboud said:

“The problem with president Assad is that because he is an alwat, he feels that he has to be more Islamic than the Muslim brotherhood, Ataturk did not care about that.”

Like being holier than the pope. Good phrase, would explain his bizarre iftar speech, and it’s an admission on his part that 40+ years of enforced Baathist secularism have gotten nowhere in Syria.

I think Syria should have a quota system for seats in the people’s assembly; 100 seats, 95 of them go to Homs. The rest of the country can divide the 5 remaining seats. Homsis get the following ministries reserved for them;

Defense, Foreign, Interior, Economy, Education, Agriculture, Information, Prime Minister, Higher Education, Health and Transport. Non-Homsis can have the rest (which probably just leaves Environment)

Prepare yourselves for the Pax Homsica!

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August 28th, 2011, 6:05 pm

 

390. BEAWARE PLUS said:

Dear Tara

Don’t count on Ammar coming back, the minute I read the dentist story I knew it was a sham. Same goes for “American Valerie”. Alas, futile to argue with people who are religiously bent on peddling in“doubt”. You really wonder at this late stage, what are they trying to achieve.

Landis in my opinion shares some responsibility, if nothing but for giving them top billings. I love the way he went so far as to invoke his historical prowess to take us back to 1948 Deir Yassin and Ahmad Chalabi to use as examples of consequences of exaggerated reporting. As if these two incidents have any correlation with the situation in Syria today: A brutal, sadistic regime, shot out all information to the outside world in able to do as they please, or to quote Landis “do very bad things” to what is by all accounts, an unarmed population long deprived of dignity and freedom. And to add insult to injury, they expect, or more aptly demand, that their version of the truth and the version of their supporters is to be truth of all truths. In other word, Baath truth uber else.

The Baath regime has been lying and fabricating stories for almost 50 years, albeit vastly dumb and out of touch with reality. Imagine for a second if the Baath was a person and subsequently subpoenaed to take the witness stand in a court of law, I doubt they could pass the smell test.

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August 28th, 2011, 6:06 pm

 

391. beaware said:

Syrian opposition decides to take up arms against Assad regime
Published 16:58 28.08.11
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/syrian-opposition-decides-to-take-up-arms-against-assad-regime-1.381184?trailingPath=2.169%2C2.216%2C2.217%2C

Leader of Revolutionary Council tell London-based As-Sharq al-Awsat that the only solution to regime’s violence is armed uprising.

The leader of the Revolutionary Council of the Syrian Coordination Committees, Mohammad Rahhal, said in remarks published Sunday that the council took the decision to arm the Syrian revolution.

Since mid-March pro-democracy protests have engulfed most of Syria calling for political and economic reforms as well as for the ousting of Syrian president Bashar Assad.

“We made our decision to arm the revolution which will turn violent very soon because what we are being subjected to today is a global conspiracy that can only be faced by an armed uprising,” he told the London-based As-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper. Circumstances no longer allow dealing peacefully with the regime’s “crimes,” he added. “We will use whatever arms and rocks … We will respond to the people’s calls to arm the revolution,” he said.

“Confronting this monster (the Syrian regime) now requires arms, especially after it has become clear to everyone that the world only supports the Syrian uprising through speeches,” he added. Rahal lashed out some Arab regimes and described them as “cowards.”

Assad’s troops have harshly cracked down on protests against almost five decades of Baath Party rule, killing over 2,200 people and triggering a wide-scale international condemnation.

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August 28th, 2011, 6:08 pm

 

392. Khalid Tlass said:

Aboud, I am having a feeling that victory is coming very, very soon. I don’t know why, but I’m getting this gut feeling. If an armed uprising does take place, I do hope people like you and SGID will be safe, and lots of Menhebaks will be dying painful deaths inside their Tanks and APCs.

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August 28th, 2011, 6:16 pm

 

393. Norman said:

The question is, if the situation in Syria become more violent and the opposition will not meet the government for a solution, will the government go on the attack and start jailing and even assassinating the opposition leaders and will that be the start of the civil war that nobody claims that they want but everybody seems to be moving toward.

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August 28th, 2011, 6:19 pm

 

394. Humanist said:

“The problem with president Assad is that because he is an alwat, he feels that he has to be more Islamic than the Muslim brotherhood, Ataturk did not care about that.”

Well, Atatürk was perhaps half-JEWISH (think something worse!). But still he didn’t try to “be hollier than the pope”. In the beginning he tried to be sensitive against islam. But in his last speeches he was often against religions and indirecly, but clearly admitted he was an atheist (see. Wikipedia)

Atatürk was NOT an oppurtunist, he stod up for what he DID believe in as well as what he DID NOT believe in.

The same thing can’t be said about “secular” arab leaders….

Good night and good luck for Syria and all Syrians (secularists, pseudo-secularists, pseudo-islamists, islamists…)

I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST!

(this is my last post here)

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August 28th, 2011, 6:28 pm

 

395. True said:

@ 390. BEAWARE PLUS said:
“The Baath regime has been lying and fabricating stories for almost 50 years”

Their theory of “fake it till you make it” is not valid anymore, today we have the upper hand.

@ 392. Khalid Tlass
“Menhebaks will be dying painful deaths inside their Tanks and APCs”

no mate no dying for “Menhebkes” I want them alive to worship me instead and surely I’m in favour to torture them first with freedom and democracy

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August 28th, 2011, 6:43 pm

 

396. ss said:

392 by Khalid “Aboud, I am having a feeling that victory is coming very, very soon. I don’t know why, but I’m getting this gut feeling”

I think your gut feeling misslead you before as it is now. The regime has the upper hand now. Ramadan was a regime round by all means. Honestly, I only see signs of strength on part of the Syrian regime, and signs of despiration on part of the so called opposition (I really give a lot of respect if I call you opposition). Now the opposition is going to gut feelings to speculate what will happen to the regime. Let us start from Lattakia: We heer no Takbeerat. Alraml Alganoobi is so peaceful now. Alkah wa akbar nights that terrorized people are part of history. Hama, hows the Assi square now compared to 3 months ago. I will let you judge!. Still some resistance in Homs and Reef damascus. Today the army will take care of deer alzoor. There are pockets here and there but they are way less compared to few months ago.

Amir Qatar in Iran which raises many ??????????. I think he was there to make a save face deal. He wants to be out of the humulation he brought on himself. Ahmadeenijad and his foreign minister announcements were just political statements that change nothing in the fact that Khaminai himself called Syria the most important alli. I think the regime lead by preseident Assad has shown signs of boldness lately and he earned it. He was clear in his last interview:
1. Attack on Syria will be costly
2. We would accept political advice but we do not accept any interference with Syrias’ internal affairs.

The criminals are being broadcated on a weekly basis. The MB is losing ground again. All the money of Harriri and gulf thugs are wasted, the plan has failed so far, and the game will be over soon.

Many MBs on SC are wounded again. soon 2011 will be history like 1980s

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August 28th, 2011, 6:58 pm

 

397. Tara said:

Dear Beaware Plus

It really is not my nature to put someone on the spot but at the same time I don’t like people to insult our intelligence and think they can get away with it and for that matter I pursued Ammar Shami’s story.  Any how i do admit that I did enjoy proving Ammar Shami lack of credibility to…. Josh.

I do not want to sound obsessed about these eye witnesses that appear in the main post but I just want to quote Valerie once and for all “ I have seen a Palestinian girl arrested after weapons were found in her apartment, the cousin of a friend was killed while walking in an Alawi neighborhood that has never seen any protests, another expat friend of mine saw a man setting up a sniper rifle on the rooftop across from the building where he worked and watched as the man was arrested after someone else called the police, the list goes on…). 

How on earth can we believe that she have witnessed with her own eyes a Palestinian girl being arrested after weapons were found in her apartment.  Was she visiting with that “Palestinian girl” when she got arrested or was she the mukhabarat agent that arrested her, or perhaps she likes to play a girl James Bond and she was embedded with the regime’s security force that arrested the girl?  Moreover a cousin of a friend was killed walking in Alawi neighborhood, another incident Aldoonya TV ignored and did not use in it’s propaganda,  or even better, an “alleged” opposition sniper who is “retarded” enough to expose himself to her expat friend when it is well known that even infants in Syria get deprived from their right of living just because a regime psychopath decided to shoot at them.  Do all of you see the trend? Lies after lies to blur the truth.  

Beaware plus,  I like very much your writing style, please write more.

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August 28th, 2011, 7:09 pm

 

398. some guy in damascus said:

@aboud, i’d be more than glad to share a meal with you, the food in Syria 2.0 will taste better.
@ khalid tlass, i love your support and concern and im glad your feeling optimistic ,we all are! i just wanted to discuss something with you. from reading your previous posts, you have some sectarian comments about alawis, shi’a or Christians.i get offended when you talk about them in such a matter, please dont single out these syrians. i was taught by christian teachers, healed by alawi nurses and shared great times with shi’ites. remember Syria 2.0 will be a place of equal opportunity where religion will be a relationship between you and your deity ONLY.
@ syria no kandahar,
i thought long and hard about how i could reply to your comment, but then i realized it lacked argument,intelligence and commitment to debate. when you have solid things worth debating and arguing over, i’l be more than happy to argue refute your comments.
@ all,
yes when leaders sense their ends they do get a bit more religious, just take a look at saif-il islam gaddafi, and the beard he’s sporting. Besho is trying to give us concessions that will be short term solution to sooth public anger that will generate long term problems, for 1 example the illegal building, or the numerous illegal stalls in Damascus( we know some of them are intelligence services) or the sudden reaffirmation to islam that will polarize society.
@ professor . landis:
is our email information shared with anyone? you must realize that i among others have security concerns.

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August 28th, 2011, 7:11 pm

 

399. some guy in damascus said:

” Any how i do admit that I did enjoy proving Ammar Shami lack of credibility to…. Josh.”
ummm well don’t hog all the credit! :D

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August 28th, 2011, 7:15 pm

 

400. EHSANI2 said:

Those of us living in the path of hurricane Irene expected a real disaster this weekend. Now that it is over, one cannot escape the thought that the whole ordeal was exaggerated by both the media and government officials.

On second thought, this was inevitable. Had government officials not gone to this length to warn citizens, every death would have been blamed on government incompetence and unpreparedness.

Rather than risk similar charges that came post Katrina, it has become smart politics for mayors and governors alike to be over prepared to avoid any loss of lives that may be blamed on them.

During the weekend, I received numerous calls from friends and family in Syria checking on us here.

Why did they exaggerate this I was asked.

My reply:

Because if one person dies, mayors and governors may get sued or even lose their jobs.

Answer from Syria:

That’s interesting. Our mayors and governors lose their jobs if they don’t kill enough people

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August 28th, 2011, 7:18 pm

 

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