Arab League in Damas; Pro-Assad Demos, Strike in Homs, Killings, Ambassadorial tit for tat


Tens of thousands of Syrians rally in support of Assad ahead of Arab
2011-10-26

DAMASCUS, Oct. 26 (Xinhua) — Tens of thousands of Syrians rallied Wednesday in support for President Bashar al-Assad hours before the arrival of an Arab League (AL) ministerial delegation that aimed at finding ways to end the months-long crisis in the country.

The Umayyad Square in the capital of Damascus and nearby streets were packed with supporters of Assad, who is up against blistering international criticism over his alleged bloody crackdown on protest movement.

The Qatari Prime minister in Damascus

Press conference after the Arab League meeting with President Assad. He said that the questions that they talked about were secret, but that they were serious and touched on all the important topics. He asked for the halt to violence from both sides and the end of armed demonstrations. They will be meeting again soon either in Damascus or Doha.

Homs, northwest Syria strike to protest crackdown 26/10/2011

AMMAN, (Reuters) – People in the city of Homs and nearby areas of northwest Syria staged a general strike on Wednesday over President Bashar al-Assad’s intensifying military crackdown on protesters, and two were killed in one town, activists and residents said.

They said most employees stayed home and most shops closed in the city of one million, and the strike was observed in wide swathes of the countryside around Homs and cities and towns in the northwestern province of Idlib near Turkey.

“Public employees participated for the first time. A few food shops have remained open,’ said a resident of Homs, who gave his name as Omar. Youtube footage showed shuttered shops on both sides of a main street in the nearby rural region of Houla.

Defectors Claim Attack That Killed Syria Soldiers
By NADA BAKRI
Published: October 26, 2011

BEIRUT, Lebanon — A force of Syrian Army defectors claimed responsibility for a Wednesday attack that killed a military officer and eight soldiers in central Syria, another signal that disaffected troops are taking a larger role in the antigovernment uprising and pushing it into more violence after months of a brutal government crackdown…..

Robert Fisk: Syria slips towards sectarian war
Stories of killings in Homs are reinforcing support for Assad in Damascus

…..We shall see if this gets on air on Saturday (readers will be kept informed) but outside in the street another pro-Assad demonstration was starting, 10,000 then 50,000 – it might have reached 200,000 by midday – and there was no Saddam-style trucking of the people to the Omayad Square, no mukhabarat intelligence presence and the only soldiers were standing with their families. How does one report a pro-government demo during the Arab Awakening? There were veiled women, old men, thousands of children with “Syria” written on their faces. Most held Syrian flags, some held the flags of Russia and China.

Were they coerced? I don’t think so – not by the Assad government, at least. ….

Ankara will not tolerate Syrian repression, FM says

 Turkey has no intention of permitting any chaos or oppression in Syria, Turkey’s foreign minister has said, adding that Ankara would do everything to ensure that the Syrian people realize their rightful demands.

We will not allow any chaos or oppression in Syria, this is our responsibility toward the Syrian people,” Davutoğlu told a joint press conference with his Jordanian counterpart, Nasser Judeh, in Amman….

Turkey Is Sheltering Antigovernment Syrian Militia
2011-10-27 By LIAM STACK

(New York Times) — ANTAKYA, Turkey — Once one of Syria’s closest allies, Turkey is hosting an armed opposition group waging an insurgency against the government of  President Bashar al-Assad, providing shelter to the commander and dozens of members of the group, the Free Syrian Army, and allowing them to orchestrate attacks across the border from inside a camp guarded by the Turkish military. The support for the insurgents comes amid a broader Turkish campaign to undermine Mr. Assad’s government. Turkey is expected to impose sanctions soon on Syria, and it has deepened its support for an umbrella political opposition group known as the Syrian National Council, which announced its formation in Istanbul. But its harboring of leaders in the Free Syrian Army, a militia composed of defectors from the Syrian armed forces, may be its most striking challenge so far to Damascus….

“We will fight the regime until it falls and build a new period of stability and safety in Syria,” Colonel As’aad said in an interview arranged by the Turkish Foreign Ministry and conducted in the presence of a foreign ministry official. “We are the leaders of the Syrian people and we stand with the Syrian people.”

The interview was held in the office of a local government official, and Colonel As’aad arrived protected by a contingent of 10 heavily armed Turkish soldiers, including one sniper. The colonel wore a business suit purchased that morning by the Turkish Foreign Ministry, and at the end of the meeting, citing security concerns, the colonel and a Foreign Ministry official advised that all further contact with his group be channeled through the Turkish Foreign Ministry….

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey was personally offended by Mr. Assad’s repeated failure to abide by his assurances that he would undertake sweeping reform. Turkish officials predict that the Assad government may collapse within the next two years….

By Ehsani:

It seems to me that islamists are being held to a much higher standards than other religions. Barry Rubin is afraid of islamists but he is ok with israel as a religious state. I think that none of us can have our cake and eat it. That the majority of the people of this region are more religious than i would like is a fact. That after so many years of failures of their leaders they have turned to religion and GOD under the banner of “islam is the solution” is not surprising. When you have to live on $300 a month with 3 kids only GOD can get you going. Whether we like it or not, this region wants to throw away the exisiting order. Do they have an alternative that we like? most likely not. They clearly want to try islam. I think that this transition period is inevitable. The period may well be longer and uglier than we would like but unless we can offer a brilliant alternative, it is hard to see how this trend can be reversed. Iran started on this track back in 1979. The ayatollahs took over and promised the moon. In my opinion they have failed just like the current crop of “islam is the solution” crowd will most likely fail. But, try they will and may be try they must before the region’s next phase sees the light of day. In the meantime, the best we may hope for is that Turkish style rather than salafi style end up rising to the top should a change of the exisiting order actually materialize.

Haaretz: France FM: Fall of Assad government in Syria ‘unavoidable’, 2011-10-26

The government of Syrian President Bashar Assad will almost certainly fall under the pressure of protests and sanctions, but it will take time due to the complexity of internal and regional politics, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said on …

Treasury Official Heads To Europe To Discuss Iran Sanctions
2011-10-24

The U.S. Treasury Department said Monday that its top sanctions official will head to Europe this week to discuss global efforts to impose sanctions against Iran. David S. Cohen, undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, will meet …

ASCF: EU Leaders Threaten Syria with More Sanctions, Urge Assad to Resign, 2011-10-24

Region: Middle East Topics: Emerging Threats, National Preparedness The European Union has threatened more sanctions against Syria if the government crackdown on dissent continues. EU leaders warned Damascus Sunday they “will impose further and …

Syria, Iraq to establish Joint Free Trade Zones – 23/10/2011

DAMASCUS- Director-General of the General Establishment for Free Zones Abdul-Hakim Qaddah on Sunday discussed with Chairman of the Iraqi Free Zones Commission Saleh al-Qaisi and the accompanying delegation the possibility of establishing two joint Syrian-Iraqi free trade zones in al-Ya’arubyia and al-Bukamal in Syria and in Rabia and al-Qaem in Iraq.

The two sides also discussed the means of facilitating the work at the joint free trade zones to increase the volume of trade exchange between the two countries and to introduce the businessmen and the investors on the available economic and investments capabilities and to develop them.

Clarifying the economic and investment regulations in force at the free trade zones, and highlighting the facilitations provided to the Arab and foreign investors through holding conferences, scientific and economic symposiums and benefiting from the experiences in this domain were also on the table.

He added that establishing joint free trade zones would contribute to increasing the flow of goods between the two countries and would enhance the operational capacity of the Syrian and Iraqi ports, in addition to decreasing the costs of goods.

Haynes Mahoney, the embassy’s deputy chief of mission, confirmed that Ford has left Syria but said Washington hadn’t not formally recalled him — a symbolically significant diplomatic step.

Nikolaos van Dam in the Montreal Review on Syria
The Montreal Review?

Time: Syria’s Kurds: Are They About to Join the Uprising Against Assad?, 2011-10-24

There is popular anger at the regime but the various political organizations that represent the ethnic minority seem to be in the way Syria’s Kurds: Are They About to Join the Uprising Against Assad?

Journalist witnesses Syrian authorities torturing activists, Channel 4 News

From the Comment Section

(1) France has a fundamental and firm policy that the UN Security Council is the only authority that can authorize a military attack against a sovereign country. That policy is self-serving for France; see France’s status on the Security Council. But France also has the influence to keep Germany and other European countries going along with the same policy.
(2) As reported by Today’s Zaman newspaper in Turkey, the foreign ministry of Turkey is advising the Syrian National Council in Turkey to “to work in a peaceful manner for democratic transformation in Syria”. Turkey’s foreign ministry is also saying that it will not recognize the Syrian National Council as representative of anything, at least not any time soon.
(3) The USA position was summarized as follows by USA Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford in an interview with “Time Magazine” published on 28 Sep 2011: “One of the things we’ve told the opposition is that they should not think we are going to treat Syria the same way we treated Libya. The main thing for the opposition to do is figure out how to win away support from the regime, and not look to outsiders to try and solve the problem. This is a Syrian problem and it needs Syrian solutions….” Ford is strongly advising the opposition against a turn to arms. “It would be a mistake,” he says, not least because “you want to be sure that if you’re even contemplating this, you have a way to know that whatever you’re going to do militarily is going to be effective … I very frankly say to people, you don’t have enough force to fight the Syrian army, you’re not even close. We have to be realistic.” Other USA officials have said much the same thing during the past few weeks. (US foreign!
ministry spokesman Jeffrey Feltman said on Al-Arabiya TV yesterday “We are looking for better ways to protect Syrian civilians, but we do not look here to apply the Libyan model in Syria” — http://www.facebook.com/News.About.Syria?sk=wall
(4) The Arab League has said repeatedly recently that it is opposed to foreign intervention in Syria. At the Arab League meeting in Cairo on 16 Oct, as reported later by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, three measures against Syria were considered and rejected: foreign military intervention, the imposition of trade sanctions, and freezing Syria’s membership in the Arab League. Arab League countries who rejected those measures included Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, Oman, Lebanon, Yemen, Sudan, and Syria.
(5) Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah in interview on Al-Manar (#156) said the Syrian people support President Bashar Al-Assad’s regime, but if the people start opposing the regime, we [Hezbollah] will support the people. Think about that.

IF THE WHOLE OF SYRIA IS ALSO GROWING AT 3.46%, THEN THE CURRENT 23 MILLION WILL BE 100 MILLION BY 2055 – Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:06 PM

وما يمكن قوله في هذا المجال إن التزايد السكاني الكبير الذي ما زالت تشهده المحافظة والذي وصل إلى 3.46% كوسطي معدل نمو سنوي وذلك في ظل غياب تطبيق سياسات التربية السكانية يشكل جوهر المشكلة سواء فيما يتعلق بالدوام النصفي وغيره، فهناك عشرات الآلاف من التلاميذ المطلوب تسجيلهم سنوياً في مدارس التعليم الأساسي وبما يفوق أحياناً التوسع في إنشاء الأبنية المدرسية وبما بات يثير الشكوك حول إمكانية القضاء على الدوام النصفي المخطط في عام 2013!!

Iran’s Supreme Leader Floats Proposal to Abolish Presidency
2011-10-25, By Thomas Erdbrink

Oct. 25 (Washington Post) — TEHRAN — A proposal by Iran’s supreme leader to radically alter the country’s constitution and abolish the presidency is drawing praise from his  supporters but criticism from influential politicians. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was appointed supreme leader for life in 1989 by Shiite Muslim clerics, said in a speech last week that, if deemed appropriate, Iran could do without a president. The post is currently held by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose 2009  reelection was disputed by opponents and led to months of street protests. Former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said publicly Tuesday that the proposal strongly undermines the ideal of an Islamic republic, in which the people elect their leaders. Ahmadinejad, for his part, said in a speech Tuesday in the eastern city of Birjand, “We will not respond but know that the
nation is awake.” He was vague on whether he was specifically addressing the proposal to eliminate his position.

Ahmadinejad stressed that no one should have problems with “the people” and said that “if the time comes that anyone wants to block them from progressing, they will remove him in two seconds,” the Fararu Web site wrote. Under the proposal, Iran would be ruled by Khamenei working in tandem with parliament, which would continue to be directly elected and would appoint one of its members to serve as prime minister.

Ouster of Syria’s Assad would be ‘opportunity’ for Israel (video)

Michael Oren, Israel’s ambassador to the US, said Tuesday it will take more time to know how the democratic uprisings in Arab nations will affect relations with Israel. But ‘possible ouster’ of President Assad in Syria would afford ‘an opportunity to us,’ he said.

Fresh Plaza (NL): Libya’s economy to shrink more than 50% after conflict
2011-10-26 14:22:36.602 GMT

Libya’s economy to shrink more than 50% after conflict Libya’s economy will contract more than 50 percent in 2011 as eight months of fighting paralyzed its oil industry, the International Monetary Fund said. “The conflict has had a severe …

DJ US Ambassador Hopes To Be Back In Syria Next Month
2011-10-26 20:17:51.187 GMT

WASHINGTON (AFP)–U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford, who was abruptly withdrawn this week because of security threats, hopes to return to Damascus before the end of November, the State Department said Wednesday.

“Let me just say he has bought his Thanksgiving turkey for his embassy staff, and he wants very much to have Thanksgiving dinner for his folks there. So that’s our expectation, it will be sometime before Thanksgiving,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said. Thanksgiving falls on Nov. 24 this year.

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651. Bronco said:

#639 Majed

“it means Bashar recognizes the SNC as legitimate,”

Bashar will never recognize any group that forces him to step down.

If the SNC announces officially that it rescinds this key part of their declaration, then they can organize themselves into a legitimate party.
I doubt they’ll do that because until now they believe the AL initiative will fail and they have the support of the USA, France and Turkey to topple Bashar Al Assad and create a transitional government like the TNC in Libya..

If the AL meetings happen and succeed this is the end of the SNC as we know it.

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November 2nd, 2011, 8:55 am

 

652. bronco said:

Ann, Jad

I believe Turkey is quietly withdrawing from the Syrian issue and will decrease its support to the SNC should the AL initiative flies. They may try to convince the SNC to participate in the eventual dialog, but ultimately they don’t want to appear as a representant of the foreign powers in a matter that is now handled by an strictly Arab organization.
They fell into their own trap by believing they had a strong influence on Bashar al Assad, that they had a role to play in Arab matters and that the Arab spring was pointing to them as the ‘model’ of an islamic democracy.
They didn’t count on the pride of Syria and the Arab leaders who felt offended by the Turkish pretense of solving and interfering n Arab matters. Also it became clear that Kurds and armenians are no friends to Turkey.

This policy is backlashing and they are now taking a lower profile, especially with all the troubles that fell on their head after the elections. I think Turkey is neutralized for a long time.

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:10 am

 

653. irritated said:

French’s respect for Islam and for Moslems living in France

French satirical paper ‘firebombed’ after Mohammed cartoon

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=french-satirical-paper-firebombed-after-mohammed-cartoon-2011-11-02
..
“Charlie Hebdo published a special edition Wednesday to mark the Arab Spring, renaming the weekly newspaper Charia (Sharia) Hebdo for the occasion and featuring a front-page cartoon of the prophet saying: “100 lashes if you don’t die of laughter!”

{…}

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:15 am

 

654. majedkhaldoun said:

Bronco
I am sorry, I dont understand what you are saying.
If SNC meet with Assad representative,they will talk about true reform,a reform that will end in the removal of Assad.
about new goverment that represent the people,not the Assadists, meanwhile huge demonstrations will follow asking for the removal of Bashar.

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:28 am

 

655. Revlon said:

محمد فاروق الإمام: الصراع القومي العلماني مع جماعة الإخوان المسلمين آخر صيحات النظام وفبركاته

2011/11/02
Mohammad Farook AlImam
محمد فاروق الإمام
http://www.sooryoon.net/?p=37005
في مقابلة أجرتها صحيفة (ذي صنداي تلغراف) البريطانية، ونشرت يوم الأحد 30 تشرين أول المنصرم حذر الأسد الصغير من أن أي عمل غربي ضد دمشق سيؤدي إلى “زلزال” من شأنه أن “يحرق المنطقة بأسرها”.
وقال الأسد إن “سورية اليوم هي مركز المنطقة. إنها الفالق الذي إذا لعبتم به تتسببون بزلزال… هل تريدون رؤية أفغانستان أخرى أو العشرات من أفغانستان؟”.

وأضاف إن “أي مشكلة في سورية ستحرق المنطقة بأسرها”. وأنه “يدرك أن القوى الغربية “سوف تكثف الضغوط حتما” على نظامه، ولكنه شدد على أن “سورية مختلفة كل الاختلاف عن مصر وتونس واليمن. التاريخ مختلف، والواقع السياسي مختلف”.

وأكد الأسد الصغير في مقابلته على أن ما تشهده سورية اليوم هو “صراع بين الإسلاميين والقوميين العرب (العلمانيين)”، مضيفا “نحن نقاتل الإخوان المسلمين منذ خمسينيات القرن الماضي وما زلنا نقاتلهم”.
الغرب اعتبر أن تهديدات الأسد الصغير تقصده إذا حاول التدخل عسكرياً لحماية الشعب السوري من المذبحة التي يتعرض لها، فقد اعتبرت صحيفة (فرنكفورتر-فرانكفورت العامة) الألمانية أن تهديدات الأسد جدية، (فالرجل لا يرقب بإنسان ببلده إلاًّ ولا ذمة، فهو يطلق الرصاص على الآمنين ولم يعد يميز بين طفل وشيخ وامرأة) مشيرة إلى أن (تصريحات الأسد شبيهة بتصريحات سلفه معمر القذافي الذي حذر الغرب من مغبة استلام الإسلاميين حكم ليبيا لأنها ستصبح معقلاً للقاعدة) داعية الغرب إلى (اتخاذ سياسة حازمة ضد نظام الأسد وإنقاذ الشعب السوري) واصفة تحذيرات الأسد الصغير بالجوفاء (فهو كان قد وعد ميليشيات حزب الله بدعم عسكري أثناء مواجهة ذلك الحزب لجيش الكيان الصهيوني في صيف عام 2007 إلا أنه اختبأ بأحد جدران قصره في اللاذقية بل قامت طائرات تابعة للكيان الصهيوني بضرب اللاذقية ولم يطلق أي رصاصة تجاه الطائرات ثم خرج ليشتم دول الخليج العربي وفي مقدمتها السعودية لتخاذلها عن نصرة حزب الله، والأسد الذي وعد بتحرير الجولان لم يقم بتنفيذ وعده بل ساهم بقتل شعبه)

هنا أكتفي برد الصحيفة الألمانية على عنتريات الأسد الصغير وقد كشفت بالوقائع والحقائق على الأرض طبيعة هذا النظام، الذي لا يجيد إلا الجعجعة وكيل الاتهام للآخرين ووصمهم بالتخاذل والخيانة والعمالة، وذبح العزل وقتل المحتجين والمتظاهرين السلميين الذي خرجوا مطالبين بالحرية والكرامة والديمقراطية!!

أما عن دعاوي الأسد الصغير من أن الصراع في سورية كان بين القوميين العرب العلمانيين والإسلاميين، وأنه يقاتل الإخوان المسلمين منذ خمسينات القرن الماضي فشيء يثير التقزز والغثيان من هذه المفتريات، التي لا تقنع الطفل الصغير الذي يصدح في الشارع منذ ثمانية أشهر ويتلقى رصاص شبيحة ورجال أمن الأسد بصدره العاري (بشار ما منحبك ارحل عنا أنت وحزبك).

ولو رجعنا إلى خمسينات القرن الماضي لوجدنا أن الصراع كان في حقيقة الأمر بين القومين العرب العلمانيين وبين حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي الانقلابي الذي كان وراء كل انقلابات العسكر التي حدثت في سورية (انقلاب حسني الزعيم، وانقلاب سامي الحناوي، وانقلابي أديب الشيشكلي الأول والثاني، وانقلاب الضباط البعثيين الصغار)، فلو رجعنا إلى رموز هذا الحزب ومذكراتهم وتصريحاتهم لوجدنا أن الجميع يقرون بذلك ويدعونه، وأن الصراع كان بينهم وبين القوميين العرب العلمانيين للوصول إلى السلطة وبأي شكل وبأي ثمن، في حين كان الإسلاميون وفي مقدمتهم جماعة الإخوان المسلمين يلتزمون بقواعد اللعبة الديمقراطية التي كانت تعيشها سورية في تلك الحقبة، ولم تكن يوماً إلى جانب الانقلابات العسكرية أو تفكر في تبنيها، رغم ممارسات عدد كبير من ضباط الجيش الضغوط عليها لتسلم الحكم عقب انقلاب ناجح يقومون به، لأن جماعة الإخوان المسلمين كانت على الدوام تؤمن بأن الشعب هو صاحب القرار والاختيار، وكانت على الدوام تلتزم بنتائج صناديق الاقتراع، وتعقد التحالفات مع كل الأطياف القومية واليسارية والعلمانية سواء خلال خوض الانتخابات أو في تشكيل الحكومات أو في المصادقة على القرارات.

كل الأطياف السياسية الفاعلة في سورية في خمسينات القرن الماضي كان لها تمثيل بحسب حجمها في مجلس النواب، ولم يكن لحزب البعث أي تمثيل في هذا المجلس حتى العام 1952، حيث جرب الأستاذ ميشيل عفلق وصلاح البيطار مؤسسا الحزب خوض الانتخابات فلم يحقق أياً منهما الفوز.. إلى أن توحد حزب البعث الذي يقوده ميشيل عفلق والحزب العربي الاشتراكي الذي يقوده أكرم الحوراني الذي كان يملك قاعدة شعبية واسعة في ريف حماة وبعض أرياف المدن السورية الأخرى، وقد حقق هذا الدمج حصول الحزب على 16 مقعداً في مجلس النواب، في حين كانت تتقدم عليه في عدد المقاعد أحزاب (الوطني والشعب والجبهة الإسلامية)
………. More

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:39 am

 

656. Tara said:

Bronco@650

Could you read post 625 and tell us if you still think that Turkey is ” neutralized” and ” withdrawing”.

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:43 am

 

657. Revlon said:

Demonstrators party in in Job AlJandali, Homs: They wave the independance flag and chant; How sweet to feel free!

Ya Ma7la L7urriya

حمص جب الجندلي 31 10 2011 يا محلا الحرية – سوريا – أموي

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November 2nd, 2011, 9:51 am

 

658. jad said:

Escalation of violence in Homs by the terrorist groups who attack civilian and killing them in groups:

HNN| شـبكة أخـبار حمص
خــاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولــى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA

استمرار توافد الجثث و الجرحى إلى
المشفى الأهلي في حي الزهــراء
حيث تم للتو وصول 5 جثث من وادي
السايح..

و وصل عدد الجثث في المشفى الأهلي
إلى 13 جثة :
5 لمواطنين مدنيين ذكور
3 نسوة مدنيات
4 من عناصر الجيش

و عرف من الشهداء :
السيدة عبير مع زوجها من آل العلي .
آصف العجي
أكثم العلي

و الفتاة الطالبة المصابة بطلق ناري
في رأسها هي بصف الحادي عشر
من مدرسة مي زيادة

خطف 4 شباب اليوم من قرية المختارية
و 3 شباب من قرية الأشرفية

الهجوم على المشفى الوطني بحمص
بالرشاشات و القنابل مما يسفر عـــن
سقوط 10 جرحى بينهم شرطي

اشتباكات عنيفة في حي جب الجندلي
بين الجيش و الإرهابيين

خــاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولــى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA

خــاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولــى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA

قامت مجموعات مسلحة بإيقاف سرفيس في
حي وادي السايح و قامت بإنزال الركاب و قاموا
بقتل طالبين اثنين و امرأتين بعد تفتيش بطاقاتهم
الشخصية (الهوية) و أطلقوا سراح فتاة أخرى كونها
لم تحقق شروط الهوية و الفتاة شهدت مقتل هؤلاء
أمام أعينها و هي من حي السبيل و هي في حالة
إغماء بعد وصولها إلى منزلها.

و مجموعات إرهابية أخرى عند مدرسة الأموية تقوم
بإيقاف السيارات و تقوم بالقتل على الهوية و حتى
الآن هناك 8 جثث موجودة بالطريق في تلك المنطقة
حيث يعمد الإرهابيون على إطلاق الرصاص بكثافة

نرجو من الجميع التنبه و عدم سلوك ذلك الطريق و هو
بالقرب من مستوصف الخالدية و نرجو إخبار كل من تعرفونهم
تجنباً لوقوع المزيد من الشهداء على يد هؤلاء الإرهابيين.

و سيارة شاحنة محملة بالإغنام كانت تسير من دوار المواصلات
القديم باتجاه الإسكان العسكري فيخرج منها مسلحين
اثنين من بين الأغنام و يطلقون النار على المارة و قوى
حفظ النظام تتصدى لهم و تقتل الإرهابيين الاثنين

خــاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولــى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:00 am

 

659. bronco said:

Majed

“If SNC meet with Assad representative,”

SNC has repeated that they will never meet with Assad or representatives of his regime. They say that they aim is for Bashar to step down.
Now they are obliged to sit with Bashar’s representatives, will they?
Bashar would probably leave in 2014 at the next election. Is the SNC ready to wait until then?

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:02 am

 

660. bronco said:

Tara

My interpretation: Erdogan is humiliated that despite ‘his friendship with his brother Bashar’, he been incapable of influencing any events in Syria. He is just venting his impotence: More proofs to me that Turkey is withdrawing.

Where are the promised sanctions against Syria?

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:10 am

 

661. jad said:

More terrorist attacks, a huge explosion in a public bus in the bus station of a town called Sqelbiye tens of victims, horror and chaos in Alghab area, the hospital their is in desperate situation and calling for urgent blood donation.

Predictable criminal attacks by those who doesn’t want to have a solution.

‘إنفجار ضخم بباص نقل بكراج السقيلبية والشهداء والجرحى بالعشرات وحالة رعب وفوضى تعم منطقة الغاب
مطلوب التبرع بالدم – مشفى السقيليبة – مطلوب التبرع بالدم – مشفى السقيليبة”

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:14 am

 

662. ann said:

Syria. The Pretext to Wage a “Just War”: How “Humanitarian Organizations” Provide a “Human Face” to War

November 2, 2011

“Absolutism, tempered by assassination.” (Ernst Munster, 1766-1839.)

Oh well, time to move on folks, Nothing to see here. Now there is an oil man, who spent many years in the United States as “interim Prime Minister”, shoed in, in Libya (i) it’s time to go a-toppling again.

Don’t mention the dead, distraught, destroyed, the mass graves and mass murders, by NATO and their ethnic cleansers at ground level, near certainly tutored by their Special Services. There’s oil to pump, rebuilding contracts to be divvied out, a bit of looting – and near certainly no accounting for all Libya’s frozen assets, being minimally returned in dribs and drabs. Remember Iraq’s missing billions? Another day, another precedent, another grand theft?

And that well worn propaganda hand book, battered, dog eared, but trusty, is back.

It has, in fact, seemingly, been leafed back to over twenty years ago, to August 1990, to be exact. Then, Kuwaiti babies had been torn from their incubators, thrown to the hospital floor and left to die, by Iraqi soldiers, said a “nurse” claiming to work in Kuwait – backed by Amnesty International.(ii, iii) It was entirely untrue, but it was arguably the tipping point, justification for the coming 42 day bombardment and the first ruination of Iraq, which was “Operation Desert Storm.”

In August this year, it was alleged, babies in Syria were left to die in their incubators, after President Bashar al Assad had the electricity turned off. Pictures showed pathetic little souls, inexplicably blood smeared – and huddled.

However, some meticulous digging by Ali Abunima (iv) throws up many questions. Certainly the doctored picture was earlier in an Egyptian publication, showing overcrowded conditions in the country’s paediatric units – the babies in that one,were pink and healthy, nevertheless.

As the fog of disinformation again obscures much, it is worth remembering that President Assad trained as a doctor, worked as one for some years, then did further post-graduate training, qualifying as an opthamologist at London’s prestigious St Mary’s Teaching Hospital group. He had planned medicine as a career, which was cut short when his brother, designated his father’s heir, was killed.

Accusations of targeting babies towards a man who had devoted years to studying medicine, should surely at least be questioned. Further, in an atmosphere of unrest, it would hardly win over the dissenters.

On 25th October, Amnesty produced a thirty six page Report(v) largely taken from media outlets, and non-attributed videos, “documenting” gruesome abuses in Syria’s hospitals, including a variation on babies ripped from incubators, “ … at least one unconscious patient having his ventilator removed …” before being taken away, an unnamed “health worker” had said.

Four days after the Report was published Amnesty had organized a demonstration in London: “No more Blood – No more Fear”, which rallied outside the Syrian Embassy.

Chris Doyle, Director of the Council for Arab British Understanding told demonstrators that: “Even donkeys have become targets of the Syrian army” and that water had been cut off because the government claimed it had been polluted by halucigens. The cynic might think that had all the validity of claims Colonel Quaddafi gave Viagra to his troops – and Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

However, Doyle shone one light, demanding that “human rights organizations” be allowed in to the country. If they have relied on second hand sources for their Report, has it any more validity than Kuwait’s incubator babies?

Franklin Lamb thinks not and has produced a detailed piece as to why, from seemingly unrestricted, recent, first hand experience in Syrian hospitals.(vi.) He also has telephone numbers of medical practitioners wishing to invite Amnesty researchers to see for themselves.

Syria, it seems, is in the regime change frame. Today, it has been revealed by a; ‘’a senior diplomat … and a former UN investigator”, who, of course, “both spoke on condition of anonymity”, that Syria has a previously unknown nuclear power plant. (vii.)

“Suspicions” are that Syria worked with Abdul Qadeer Khan, “father of Pakistan’s atomic bomb, to acquire nuclear weapons technology.”

The buildings “closely” resemble those of Libya’s when they were trying to build nuclear weapons. However, before you head for the fall out shelter or reach for a 2,000 lb., bunker buster:

“The complex, in the city of Hasakah, now appears to be a cotton-spinning plant, and investigators have found no sign it was ever used for nuclear production.”

Israel, of course, bombed a “suspected” nuclear plant in 2007, legality, as ever, redundant.

Syria is also currently being accused of laying mines along the Lebanese border, to prevent insurgents, crossing it. Perhaps it is, who knows? If so, a way to discourage, might be to put out a hand of friendship. If threatened sufficiently most might resort to protective measures.

It is surely coincidence that the unrest and the focus on Syria began shortly after the arrival of the first US Ambassador to the country since 2005.

Ambassador Robert Ford, arrived in Damascus on 16th January this year. By 31st January, there was a call for a “Day of Rage” on 4th February. As Michel Chossudovsy has pointed out (viii) the Ambassador has an interesting cv., diplomacy possibly not being one of his towering strengths. He is currently temporarily withdrawn, having been pelted with tomatoes.

Syria has been under embargo since 2004. The US has frozen all the country’s assets. Yet Syria opened it’s borders to two million Iraqi refugees, after the 2003 invasion, with no recompense. Libya had one hundred thousand. The displaced keep fleeing and dying, the region lives in constant fear as to who is the next target.

Meanwhile, Amnesty International Director Kate Allen, cites Syrian diplomats as representatives of “repression and injustice.”

Perhaps we need to look a little closer to our Western home, for that.

Incidentally, 31st October, the day Libya was declared liberated and NATO’s “mission” over, was the anniversary of the US, UK and France’s bombing of Egypt in 1956, to force the re-opening of the Suez Canal. On the same day in 1968, Lyndon B. Johnson announced the cessation of the bombardment of North Vietnam.

Unending decades of lies dressed as liberation, and asset grabs as tyrants who terrorize.

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:16 am

 

663. Areal said:

Idolatry or freedom of expression

REALITY : the MB respect for freedom of expression in secularist France can be extrapolated to Syria

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/02/france-firebombing-newspaper-muhammad.html?cmp=rss

A fire early Wednesday caused serious damages at the headquarters of a satiric French newspaper that “invited” the Prophet Muhammad as a guest editor this week.

Police cited a witness saying that someone was seen throwing two firebombs at the building.

The director of the newspaper, who uses the name Charb, said on BFM television that “the material damages are large” …

He said, however, that Charlie Hebdo would not stop publishing.

The fire, at about 1 a.m. local time, was quickly contained, but a large part of new offices on two levels were heavily damaged and equipment used by journalists to produce the paper were inoperable, a police official said.

Newspaper employees said they had received numerous threats as a result of the issue, subtitled “Sharia Hebdo,” in reference to Islamic law.
‘100 lashes if you don’t die laughing’

The front-page of the weekly showed a cartoon-like man with a turban, white robe and beard smiling broadly and saying, in an accompanying bubble, “100 lashes if you don’t die laughing.”

Page 2, called “Sharia Madame,” is made up of a series of cartoons featuring women in burqas, the face-covering robes. And the paper’s tongue-in-cheek editorial, signed “Muhammad,” follows on page 3, centred on the victory last week of Tunisia’s Islamist Ennahda party in the nation’s first free election — and saying that the party’s real intention is imposing Islam not democracy.

Each page contains “a word from Muhammad” in the corner and spoofs the news by twisting it into the weekly’s current theme.

Leading French politicians, citing the right to freedom of expression, condemned the attack on the paper.

Islamic law generally opposes any depiction of the prophet, even favourable, for fear it could lead to idolatry.

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:17 am

 

664. Revlon said:

The Revolution has adopted the independance flag as the flag of Free Syria

Back from school demonstrations by boys and girls in the narrow alleys of Barzeh AlBalad, Damascus.

Those narrow alleys gave them the sense of freedom and security that the grandest of squares of Asad occupied Damascus could not!

The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
دمشق برزة البلد :خروج مظاهرات طلابية من عدة مدارس في أربعاء علم الاستقلال
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=E7yaG1OOTj4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=2XU9FDyvi8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=oH6DRp8RdPU
13 minutes ago

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:24 am

 

665. jad said:

Bronco,
“Where are the promised sanctions against Syria?”

On FT Oglu pasha said with the usual arrogant tone that Turkey is preparing for more sanctions against Syrian and a NFZ is possible:

“Turkey hardens stance against Syria

Turkey has signalled possible support for a buffer zone to protect Syrian civilians if Damascus continues its crackdown on democracy protests, as tensions rise between the two former strategic partners.

Ahmet Davutoglu, Turkey’s foreign minister, told the Financial Times that Ankara was preparing targeted sanctions against Damascus and left the door open for more drastic steps at a later date, such as a buffer zone or a no fly-zone on Syrian territory.

“The Syrian regime is attacking the Syrian people, which is unacceptable,” Mr Davutoglu said in an interview. “When we see such an event next door to us of course we will never be silent.”

When asked about Turkey’s stance on a buffer zone or a no-fly zone, he said: “We hope that there will be no need for these type of measures but of course humanitarian issues are important…There are certain universal values all of us need to respect and protecting citizens is the responsibility of every state.”

His comments are an indication of the growing pressure Turkey is putting on Syria, on the rhetorical level at least, to halt the crackdown.

By contrast, in August Turkish officials rejected reports they were planning to impose a buffer zone, while Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Nato’s secretary general, dismissed the idea of a no-fly zone this week.

Turkey’s position is important because the country cultivated closer ties with Damascus until this year and is now taking an active role in reaching out to the Syrian opposition.

Speaking at the Turkish parliament on Tuesday, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s prime minister, praised the Syrian protests as “glorious” and expressed his belief that they would succeed.

Ankara’s tougher approach has been greatly welcomed by the US, which has been leading calls for Bashar al-Assad, Syrian president, to leave power.

On Tuesday Syrian state television announced that a final agreement had been reached between the Syrian government and an Arab League committee working to find a solution that could end the unrest, although it did not provide any details. The US said it welcomed any international efforts to end the violence in Syria, but reiterated its call for Mr Assad to step down.

Although in the interview Mr Davutoglu denied claims that Turkey allowed armed Syrian rebels to operate from its territory, last week he became one of the first international officials to meet leaders of the Istanbul-based opposition Syrian national council.

Mr Erdogan is also likely to visit Syrian refugee camps in Turkey in the near future, and could announce further sanctions against Damascus when he does. The trip had previously been scheduled for last month, but was postponed because of the death of Mr Erdogan’s mother.

Although Mr Davutoglu said Turkish sanctions against Syria would be targeted rather than broad, any unilateral steps would mark a change of tack for Turkey, which has long depicted sanctions against its neighbours as both ineffective and damaging to its own economy.

“We have always been against sanctions, economic sanctions which will harm people,” Mr Davutoglu said. “But certain measures [that] have an impact on a regime fighting against its own people are different.”

Mr Davutoglu also rejected a claim by Mr Assad that western intervention in Syria could turn the country into another Afghanistan.

“[To compare] Syria to Afghanistan would mean implicitly to accept that it is a failed state, which is not true,” he said. “There is a state continuing in Syria; the important thing is how the leaders of this state are acting.” He added that the correct analogy was with eastern Europe in the 1980s and early 1990s and warned Mr Assad: “Those leaders who do not understand this correctly will lose power.”

By Daniel Dombey
Financial Times

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:29 am

 

666. Revlon said:

AlHooleh Masasacre, Homs, Syria

A video clip showing bodies of 11 civilian victims ranging from young kids to senior citizens with massive gaping gun shot wounds.
It was committed by the Asad’s militias (Shabbeeha).
02/11/2011

Homs Massacre 2/11 حمص- مجزرة الحولة

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:54 am

 

667. zoo said:

Syria must not become new Libya, says OIC head
Tuesday, November 1, 2011

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-dont-want-a-new-libya-2011-11-01
Syria must not become a new Libya, because if civil war breaks out there, then the whole region will be affected, Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu, secretary-general of the Organization of the Islamic Cooperation (OIC), has said.

“The military intervention in Libya had a high price: The whole infrastructure in Libya was destroyed. Our desire is not to experience a similar example in Syria, because Syria is in a more fragile region and the structure of Syrian society is much more complex,” İhsanoğlu said.

The situation in Libya after the external intervention has been very difficult, because the old establishments and infrastructures have been destroyed and new ones were not built in their stead, İhsanoğlu told journalists on the sidelines of an international forum in Istanbul called “The Istanbul Forum.”

“The fight and struggle will be more difficult now. Because a well-supported bureaucracy and infrastructure does not exist,” İhsanoğlu said. “There is a big challenge waiting for the new government that will be built. The current situation in Syria has come to a very sad point, because blood of the Syrian civilians is being shed.

“There are big numbers of civilian casualties in the country. Besides this, people have started to endure shortages because of the embargoes.”

İhsanoğlu said they have been trying to start a dialogue between the Syrian government and the Syrian opposition by using silent diplomacy, but steps taken in this direction have not reached a desired point.

“Stability in Syria would not just benefit Syria, but it would benefit the whole region,” İhsanoğlu said.

The decision of UNESCO to give Palestinians full membership in the body was a “historic decision,” İhsanoğlu said, and OIC had made a lot of efforts toward the UNESCO acceptance of Palestine.

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November 2nd, 2011, 10:56 am

 

668. bronco said:

Jad

Erdogan wants to appear as ‘defender of universal values and rights’ while at least 60 turkish journalists are in jail, 1600 people were arrested for complicity with the PKK and the turkish army is using violence against the turkish kurds who claim for their rights. Universal values and rights? It’s a joke. Even the Turks think so.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=the-republic-2011-11-01

“With so many elected deputies behind bars, as well as with the wishy-washy Ergenekon and KCK political vendetta campaigns, talking about justice has become a very bad joke in this country.


The freedom of the press has become a joke in this country.”

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:05 am

 

669. zoo said:

Thousands chant solidarity with Assad in northern Syria: TV
2011-11-02 18:18:53
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/02/c_131226130.htm

DAMASCUS, Nov. 2 (Xinhua) — Tens of thousands of Syrians packed a main square Wednesday in the northeastern city of Raqaa, chanting solidarity with President Bashar al-Assad.

The State-run TV aired live footage of people holding posters of Assad, who is facing mounting international criticism over his regime’s response to anti-government protests that have wrecked Syria since mid-March, along with Syrian flags at al-Muhafaza square in Raqaa.

The northern province of Raqaa, some 550 km from the capital of Damascus, has witnessed anti-government protests over the past seven months.
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November 2nd, 2011, 11:16 am

 

670. Ya Mara Ghalba said:

2 Nov 2011. Big pro-regime rally in al-Raqqa city today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Z42WhOWTs (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WloMgYVAv_s (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NXS3rmJqeE (part 3)
The resolution of those videos leaves much to be desired. I can’t find higher resolution versions.

The total population of Raqqa city is 200,000 (year 2010). It looks like more than half of the able-bodied adults of the city showed up for the rally.

About a third of the crowd is female and most of the females are wearing a head covering, a visible sign of Sunni religious conservativism. Since a core component of the regime’s nationwide support is people who are not religious conservatives, the preponderance of head coverings on the women in the crowd is visible evidence that the regime’s support in Raqqa city is sociologically broad.

PS: Joshua Landis, as quoted by Ghufran at # 641 above, is deranged.

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:18 am

 

671. Revlon said:

A Free Syrian Army unit attacked a bus today, resulting in the killing and wounding of its Asad’s militia (Shabbeeha) passengers.

Al3asharneh, Hama
02/11/2011

Ugarit News | أوغاريت الإخبارية
أوغاريت ||العشارنة حماة ::عملية للجيش السوري الحر عند جسر المدينة أسفرت عن تفجير باص من باصات الشبيحة خلفت عدداً من الجرحى والقتلى بين صفوفهم

27 minutes ago

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:30 am

 

672. majedkhaldoun said:

It is the same as lifting the emergency law,the regime continued to kill and arrest tens of thousands of people, and today the regime said they accepted the AL initiative, but the regime continue the killing and arrest. the regime is lying and deceiving, this is not actual acception,this is lying, the AL will recognize this and I hope they will expose the regime lyings

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:36 am

 

673. Revlon said:

664. I got three thumbs down for this posting earlier.
I have just relaised that I forgot to provide the video link.
I apologise to those who gave me the thumbs down.
I will try to be more careful next time!
Here is the post again!

AlHooleh Masasacre, Homs, Syria

A video clip showing bodies of 11 civilian victims ranging from young kids to senior citizens with massive gaping gun shot wounds.
It was committed by the Asad’s militias (Shabbeeha).
02/11/2011

Homs Massacre 2/11 حمص- مجزرة الحولة

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:39 am

 

674. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

@REVLON SAID:

“..ولو رجعنا إلى خمسينات القرن الماضي لوجدنا أن الصراع كان في حقيقة الأمر بين القومين العرب العلمانيين وبين حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي الانقلابي الذي كان وراء كل انقلابات العسكر التي حدثت في سورية (انقلاب حسني الزعيم، وانقلاب سامي الحناوي، وانقلابي أديب الشيشكلي الأول والثاني، وانقلاب الضباط البعثيين الصغار)، فلو رجعنا إلى رموز هذا الحزب ومذكراتهم وتصريحاتهم لوجدنا أن الجميع يقرون بذلك ويدعونه، وأن الصراع كان بينهم وبين القوميين العرب العلمانيين للوصول إلى السلطة وبأي شكل وبأي ثمن، في حين كان الإسلاميون وفي مقدمتهم جماعة الإخوان المسلمين يلتزمون بقواعد اللعبة الديمقراطية التي كانت تعيشها سورية في تلك الحقبة، ولم تكن يوماً إلى جانب الانقلابات العسكرية أو تفكر في تبنيها، رغم ممارسات عدد كبير من ضباط الجيش الضغوط عليها لتسلم الحكم عقب انقلاب ناجح يقومون به، لأن جماعة الإخوان المسلمين كانت على الدوام تؤمن بأن الشعب هو صاحب القرار والاختيار، وكانت على الدوام تلتزم بنتائج صناديق الاقتراع، وتعقد التحالفات مع كل الأطياف القومية واليسارية والعلمانية سواء خلال خوض الانتخابات أو في تشكيل الحكومات أو في المصادقة على القرارات

That is very true. The militancy of MB came in response to the illegal military taking of power using force with Baathists little elements.

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:41 am

 

675. zoo said:

Syrian colonel says he heads armed rebellion against Assad regime
Col.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-syria-turkey-defectors-20111102,0,6082244.story
“No journalists are allowed to enter the camp where Assad and fellow defectors live. Any interviews must be arranged through the Turkish Foreign Ministry. A reporter in Antakya, the closest city to the camp, was allowed to speak with the colonel only by telephone.”
Riad Assad’s boasts of strikes against Syria’s government are impossible to verify, as is his contention that more than 10,000 soldiers have deserted and taken up arms.

Reporting from Antakya, Turkey, and Beirut—
From his heavily guarded enclave in Turkey, a leading Syrian defector says he is heading an armed rebellion against the regime of President Bashar Assad.

The brutality of the regime in Damascus left him and others no choice but to switch sides, says Col. Riad Assad, leader of a force called the Free Syrian Army.

“We are the future army of a new Syria,” the colonel, who is not related to the president, said in an interview. “We are striking Assad’s regime and his army in many spots.”

The colonel’s boasts of strikes against the Syrian government are impossible to verify, as is his contention that more than 10,000 Syrian soldiers have deserted and taken up arms against their former comrades.

But one thing is clear: The emergence of the armed defectors, enjoying Turkey’s apparent protection, is the most dramatic sign yet of Ankara’s abrupt split with its ally in Damascus.

On Tuesday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan — who has assailed Syria for what he termed a brutal crackdown on protesters — hailed the resistance movement, reported the Turkish daily Zaman.

“I believe the Syrian people will be successful in their glorious resistance,” Erdogan declared at a party meeting.

Turkey plans to impose economic sanctions against Syria, Erdogan has said, joining the European Union and the United States. Turkey has also hosted members of a political opposition umbrella group, the Syrian National Council, which was formed in the Turkish city of Istanbul last month and demands the Syrian president’s ouster.

Longtime adversaries, Syria and Turkey in recent years had become close allies, cooperating in economic, military and other spheres, as a resurgent Turkey sought to bolster its standing as regional power.

But Damascus’ clampdown on Syrians’ “Arab Spring”-inspired protests has caused a deep rupture that has reshaped area geopolitics. Syria’s close ally, Iran, has voiced displeasure with Ankara’s new hostility toward Damascus.

The presence of the Syrian Free Army in Turkey has shone an international spotlight on the regional rift.

Col. Assad said in an interview Monday that his forces were conducting ambushes and other “high-quality operations” against security forces “in cities across Syria.”

The group’s weapons, the colonel said, are limited to what fleeing soldiers can scrounge from the regular army. He acknowledged that the defector force lacks the military might to pose a threat to the Syrian army, which has about 200,000 troops.

The appearance of armed rebels in Syria has posed something of a quandary for the Syrian opposition movement, which kicked off more than seven months ago with peaceful street demonstrations. Advocates insist that the revolt remains nonviolent and continues to eschew armed insurgency.

Activists say armed rebels constitute a tiny minority of those opposing the regime. But some observers fear an increasing militarization of the conflict and a slide toward civil war.

The scenario in Syria remains in sharp contrast to what happened in Libya, where a military crackdown against protesters quickly evolved into an armed insurrection against the government of Moammar Kadafi.

The Syrian uprising’s public face as a besieged protest movement has helped win it sympathy worldwide, including in Washington, where the Obama administration has called for Bashar Assad to step down. The United Nations estimates that more than 3,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed.

The Syrian government has blamed “armed groups” and “terrorists” for fomenting unrest in Syria and killing more than 1,000 security personnel. It has depicted defectors as traitors and denied reports from the opposition that military morale is low and that soldiers have refused orders to fire on civilians.

In September, Syrian television broadcast an interview with another high-ranking defector, Lt. Col. Hussein Harmoush, who retracted comments that the army had been forced to shoot at civilians.

Harmoush had also defected to Turkey. How he ended up on Syrian TV remains unclear. The Turkish government denied allegations by Syrian activists that Turkey handed Harmoush over to Syria.

Turkish authorities, who maintain that their role is humanitarian, have gone to considerable lengths to ensure Col. Assad’s safety.

No journalists are allowed to enter the camp where Assad and fellow defectors live. Any interviews must be arranged through the Turkish Foreign Ministry. A reporter in Antakya, the closest city to the camp, was allowed to speak with the colonel only by telephone.

In the interview, Assad declined to say whether his forces were conducting cross-border operations from Turkey. He appealed to the international community to impose a “no fly” zone similar to what the North Atlantic Treaty Organization enforced over Libya. He also called for a “buffer zone” in Syria that would provide protection for fleeing civilians — and create a haven for his forces.

“We don’t have the ability to buy weapons, but we need to protect civilians inside Syria,” the colonel said.

NATO officials have said the alliance has no intention of intervening in Syria. Turkey, a NATO member, has not moved to create a buffer zone in Syrian territory.

President Assad told Britain’s Sunday Telegraph that Western action against his strategically situated nation would trigger an “earthquake” that would “burn the whole region” and possibly cause “another Afghanistan, or tens of Afghanistans.”

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:42 am

 

676. Revlon said:

10 Soldiers defect after killing their officer
Sahl AlGhab, Hama Governorate
02/11/2011
http://www.facebook.com/UgaritNEWS

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:43 am

 

677. Syria no kandahar said:

Revlon the terrorist
No one does this except your coward MB terrorists Allah Akbar friends.

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:46 am

 

678. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

In fact the MB were peaceful party in Syria, it was the Baathists that used force, terror and militancy which they still do to this day.

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:49 am

 

679. zoo said:

Syria to accelerate reforms, formulate plan with AL to defuse tension
English.news.cn 2011-11-02 20:19:14

DAMASCUS, Nov. 2 (Xinhua) — Syria announced Tuesday evening that it agreed on a “final plan” initiated by the Arab League (AL) ministerial committee to help defuse tension in Syria, signaling its resolve to go on with reforms to meet the protestors’ demands.

The AL ministerial committee is expected to hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday in Cairo with the participation of Syria’s envoy to the AL, Youssef Ahmed, during which, according to the Syrian account, an official announcement would be made regarding the final plan agreed upon by the two sides.

It has been reported that Damascus has made some amendments to the plan and incorporated its own considerations into it, including mainly the need of a complete halt of media campaign launched against Syria coupled with strict measures to stop funding of alleged terrorists and weapon smuggling across its borders.

Syria has also agreed to conduct dialogue with the opposition and make quick and radical reforms. However, the contentious issue is still the location to hold the proposed dialogue, as Damascus is showing unwavering determination to convene it in Damascus in presence of international observers from China, Russia, Brazil and India.

Amid the positive signals Damascus has sent was an announcement that it would soon release from jails hundreds of prisoners who, it said, “haven’t been involved in homicide against civilians, army members or security agents.”

Media reports have claimed that more than 12,000 Syrians have been arrested in the country since the eruption of protests in mid- March.

“It’s a very good step,” said Sana Mahairi, 35, a housewife. ” Let’s give reforms a chance … Let’s give the Arab League’s plan a chance … We are fed up and want to live, as in the past, peacefully,” she said.

Qadri Jamil, a member of the opposition Popular Front for Change and Liberation, told Xinhua that Syria and the AL would probably work out a deal to end the crisis especially in light of the NATO clear-cut position made Monday that ruled out any possibility of military intervention in Syria.

“It’s clear that the Libyan scenario would not be repeated in Syria … Some countries inside the AL are against Libya-like measures,” he said, adding that “it would be foolish for the AL to adopt any anti-Syria decision following the NATO statement.”

Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad said Tuesday in an interview with the Russian Today TV channel that some groups in Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are financing “terrorists ” in Syria, adding that “this should come to an end.”

Mekdad said about 1,150 Syrian policemen and security agents were killed by “terrorists,” warning that Muslim extremists and Salafis wanted to wage a civil war in Syria.

In yet another promising measure, the national committee is still going on with debates in Damascus to write a new constitution, which has been a pressing demand by protestors.

One of the main demands the Syrian protestors raised was amending the constitution, particularly canceling section eight in the constitution which states that the Baath party is the leader of the nation and the society.

Spokesman of the committee Sam Della told local media that all items in the constitution are adjustable, “but this doesn’t mean that all items would be modified.”

He said the article eight “is the most controversial item … and it’s axiomatic that it would be reviewed or omitted.”

An economic forum was held recently in Damascus to discuss ways of enhancing dialogue on national issues and crystallize a common vision on economic and social reforms.

All reforms in Syria should be done simultaneously at political, administrative, economic, social and judicial levels, said a statement issued at the forum.

Participants have also agreed on the necessity to speed up the pace of reforms as soon as possible

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:52 am

 

680. Revlon said:

Eyewitness account of a demonstration by students at the faculty of medicine in Damascus today.

The paramilitia (Workers in the faculty’s cnateen)tried to disperse the demonstration until the security forces came and started beating the crowd with battons and electrical sticks.

تنسيقية منطقة ركن الدين – الثورة السورية في دمشق
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=215286431874568&set=a.145990198804192.32160.142942529108959&type=1
02/11/2011

شاهد عيان من كلية الطب البشري:
بينما كنت في مقصف كلية الصيدلة شاهدت من الزجاج مجموعة من الشباب يركدون بسرعة فخرجت انا و اصدقائي و راينا التظاهرة مشتعلة و اذ بنا نشاهد العاملين في المقصف يهرعون لقمع التظاهرات حاملين العصي و لكن عاد احدهم و اخبرهم بالعودة لان الامن قدم الى المكان … و حينها دخل مجموعة من الشبيحة بين المتظاهرين الدين كان جلهم من الحرائر البطلات و بداوا يقولون لحرائرنا اخرسوا بقا اخرسوا احسنلكن و لكنهم التزموا بالسلمية بالرغم من مناوشة البعض منهم للشباب و الشابات في محاولة لدفعهم الى الشجار و اذ برجال يحملون العصي و الهراوات و عصي الكهرباء ينهالون على المتظاهرين و يوسعونهم ضربا و يعتقلون بعضا من الشباب و لكن ذلك اجج المظاهرة اكثر فاكثر و حولها الى بركان و تحول الهتاف من الحرية ومن الله اكبر حرية و الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام الى بدنا المعتقلين بدنا المعتقلين … و عاود كلاب الاسد هجومهم على الشباب و بدأوا بالهتاف ابو حافظ و لكن المتظاهرين عاودا كذلك الامر التجمع و الهتاف عدة مرات … و من الملفت بتظاهرة اليوم اولا صمودها و ثانيا قول احدى الحرائر لعميد الكلية … و هي تبكي بعد ما انهال كلاب الاسد عليها بالضرب … ساكت يا عميد ساكت يا محترم … انتظرونا في تظاهرات اخرى في جميع جامعات دمشق باذن الله …

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November 2nd, 2011, 11:55 am

 

681. majedkhaldoun said:

the demonstrators in the medicine faculty in Damascus,they want the dean,Fawwaz Al As3ad to be ousted.

The regime is lying,lying ,lying,the killing by the Shabbiha is still going on

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:15 pm

 

682. Revlon said:

Asad rules by inducing fear, throught threatening others!
He threatens:
– The Gulf states with the Shiaa,
– Turkey with the PKK,
– Alwais with the revenge of the Sunni,
– The Druz with the revenge of the tribes,
– Iraq with arms cross-border smuggling,
– FATAH with HAMAS
– Christians with MB’s
– AlHariri with Hizballah,
– Demonstrators with Shabbeeha,
– Americans with the stability of Israel,
– Makhloof Family with Uncle Rifaat’s sons,
– Lebanon with closing the border,
– Expats with their families home,
– Parents with their children,
– Army forces with the security forces,
– Security forces with the Iranian national Guards,
– His own people with shelling and siege,

All that, and he complains about a conspiracy!

http://all4syria.info/web/archives/34488

طريقة تهديد نظام بشار الفسد لجميع شرائح المجتمع

2011/11/01نشر فى: غير مصنف

النظام السوري يهدد الخليج بالشيعة
ويهدد تركيا بحزب العمال الكردستاني
و العلوية بانتقام السنة
و الدروز بالعشائر
و العراق بتهريب المسلحين
و حركة فتح بحماس
و المسيحية بالأخوان
ويهدد الحريري بحزب اللاة
و المتظاهرين بالشبيحة
و الأميركان باستقرار اسرائيل
و بيت مخلوف بولاد رفعت
و لبنان بتسكير الحدود
و المغتربيين بأهلهم
و الأباء بأولادهم
و عناصر الجيش بالأمن
ويهدد الأمن بالحرس الثوري الإيراني
و شعبه بالحصار والقصف
ويهدد ويهدد ……. ولازال يتحدث عن مؤامرة

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:20 pm

 

683. jad said:

Syria accept the AL initiative, as Bronco wrote we will see escalation in violence in desperate attempt to fail the AL peace plan mostly by the terrorist armed groups

سوريا وافقت “بلا تحفظات” على الخطجة العربية
أ. ف. ب.

القاهرة: قال مسؤول في الجامعة العربية ان الوفد السوري ابلغ وزراء الخارجية العرب مساء الاربعاء بموافقة بلاده على الخطة العربية لتسوية الازمة “بلا تحفظات”.

واكد المسؤول لوكالة فرانس برس ان سوريا “وافقت بلا تحفظات على الخطة العربية في مجملها”.

وتقضي الخطة العربية بوقف اطلاق النار وسحب الاليات العسكرية من المدن والمناطق السكنية وايجاد الية لمتابعة وقف العنف على الارض من خلال المنظمات العربية والسماح بدخول الاعلام العربي والدولي ثم اجراء بدء حوار وطني برعاية الجامعة العربية في القاهرة بين النظام السوري وكل مكونات المعارضة السورية.

ويترأس وفد سوريا في اجتماع الوزراء العرب سفيرها لدى مصر والجامعة العربية يوسف احمد.

وكانت وسائل الاعلام السورية اعلنت مساء الثلاثاء ان دمشق “توصلت الى اتفاق مع الجامعة العربية” بشأن خطة تسوية الازمة.

وبدأ مساء الاربعاء الاجتماع الاستثنائي لوزراء الخارجية العرب المخصص لبحث الازمة السورية.

وبدأ الاجتماع بجلسة مغلقة من دون اي جلسة افتتاحية، لبحث الخطة التي تقضي بوقف العنف وسحب الاليات العسكرية من المدن والمناطق السكنية واجراء حوار تحت رعاية الجامعة العربية في القاهرة بين النظام والمعارضة.

ولم تصدر اي تصريحات عن الوزراء العرب او مسؤولي الجامعة العربية قبل الاجتماع الذي يغيب عنه وزير الخارجية السوري وليد المعلم ويترأس وفد دمشق فيه السفير السوري لدي الجامعة العربية يوسف احمد.

واعلنت وسائل الاعلام السورية الرسمية مساء الثلاثاء ان النظام السوري توصل لاتفاق مع الجامعة العربية حول مبادرتها لانهاء العنف في سوريا، غير ان الجامعة العربية اكدت انها لم تتلق اي رد رسمي من دمشق.

وترفض دمشق حتى الان اي حوار سياسي خارج اراضيها بينما تصر المعارضة السورية على الا يتم هذا الحوار داخل سوريا، كما ترفض دمشق الاعتراف بان التظاهرات التي تشهدها البلاد هي حركة احتجاج شعبية وتعزوها الى “عصابات ارهابية”.

وطلب المجلس الوطني السوري الذي يضم عددا من تيارات المعارضة، الاربعاء من الجامعة العربية “تجميد عضوية” سوريا، مؤكدا ان دمشق ردت على عرض وساطتها “بتصعيد القمع”.

وقال المجلس في بيان ان “تصاعد القمع الوحشي الذي يمارسه النظام السوري ضد شعبنا الصامد والذي اسفر عن مئات الضحايا خلال بضعة ايام يشكل الرد العملي للنظام على المبادرة العربية”.

وتسعى الجامعة العربية لانهاء اكثر من سبعة اشهر من اراقة الدماء اسفرت بحسب الامم المتحدة عن مقتل اكثر من ثلاثة الاف شخص، غالبيتهم من المدنيين، في اعمال قمع يمارسها نظام بشار الاسد.

http://www.elaph.com/Web/news/2011/11/693371.html?entry=homepagemainmiddle

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:27 pm

 

684. Revlon said:

Rajaa AlNaser, Secretary of the National Coordination Assembly (NCA)
أمين سر هيئة التنسيق الوطنية لكلنا شركاء:سوريا ستدخل المجهول ومعرضة لكل الاحتمالات

2011/11/02نشر فى: غير مصنف

http://all4syria.info/web/archives/34516

عاد الوفد السوري من العاصمة القطرية الدوحة يوم أمس, دون التوصل الى اتفاق مع اللجنة الوزارية التي تشكلت في منتصف الشهر الماضي, لحل الأزمة السورية التي دخلت النصف الثاني من الشهر الثامن.

وطالبت المبادرة العربية” بالوقف الفوري والشامل لأعمال العنف والقتل، ووضع حد للمظاهر المسلحة والتخلي عن المعالجة الأمنية تفاديا لسقوط المزيد من الضحايا والانجراف نحو اندلاع صراع بين مكونات الشعب السوري وحفاظا على السلم الأهلي والحفاظ على المدنيين ووحدة نسيج المجتمع السوري” كما دعت جامعة الدول العربية النظام السوري والمعارضة عقد اجتماعا ترعاه الجامعة, خلال 15 يوما من تاريخ إعلان المبادرة.

وأعلنت وكالة سانا انه تم الاتفاق بين الطرفين, وسيعلن يوم غد( اي اليوم) الإعلان عن الاتفاق في اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب في مقر الجامعة العربية, الا ان الأخيرة نفت استلام اي رد رسمي من سوريا.

وعن مستجدات المبادرة العربية وموقف هيئة التنسيق الوطنية المعارضة من هذه التطورات, أجرت كلنا شركاء لقاءا من أمين سر الهيئة, المعارض رجاء الناصر.

أجرى اللقاء كمال شيخو_ كلنا شركاء

كلنا شركاء: عاد الوفد السوري من العاصمة القطرية الدوحة يوم أول أمس, دون التوصل الى اتفاق مع اللجنة الوزارية؛ وأعلنت وكالة سانا انه تم الاتفاق بين الطرفين, وسيعلن يوم غد( اي اليوم) في اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب في مقر الجامعة العربية. ما هو موقف هيئة التنسيق من هذه التطورات المتسارعة؟

أمين سر الهيئة: وصلتنا معلومات ان الوفد السوري عاد من الدوحة وسيرد على المبادرة العربية اليوم, او غدا في الاجتماع الوزاري الذي سيعقد في مقر الجامعة العربية. بالنسبة لنا في هيئة التنسيق, نرى بأنه من الضروري التوصل الى اتفاق مع الجامعة العربية, لأنه بغياب هذا الاتفاق, سوريا ستدخل الى المجهول ومعرضة لكل الاحتمالات بما فيها التدخل العسكري الخارجي, ولا يتم قطع الطريق على هذا التدخل الا بقبول مبادرة الجامعة العربية, هذه المساعي التي تبدأ بتحقيق انفراجا عامة تتمل بإيقاف العنف وتنفيذ الورقة المطروحة التي قدمت من الجامعة, والتي تشكل اقل من سقف مطالب الشارع, ومع ذلك نشعر ان القبول بها ضروري من طرفنا, لأنها تشكل مدخلا حقيقيا وجديا للخروج من الأزمة التي تمر بها سوريا.

كلنا شركاء: رحبت هيئة التنسيق الوطنية بمساعي الجامعة العربية وبرعايتها لمحاولة أيجاد مخرج للازمة السورية. هل هذا الترحيب بمثابة قبول بالمبادرة العربية التي نصت على عقد مؤتمر لحوار وطني شامل بمقر الجامعة العربية وتحت رعايتها خلال 15 يوما؟

أمين سر الهيئة: الهيئة رحبت بمساعي الجامعة العربية, ولكنها لم تقبل بالمبادرة, لان هناك فرق بين الترحيب والقبول, لان المبادرة تضمنت شقين, الأول طالب بوقف العنف وخلق مناخات ملائمة للحوار, والشق الثاني يتعلق بالحوار ومضامينه. نحن في الهيئة رحبنا بالمساعي بشكل عام, ورحبنا بضرورة خلق مناخات تسمح بمناقشة الشق الثاني, ولكن الشق الثاني لم نضعه في برامجنا وأجندتنا في الهيئة, ويجب ان يكون هناك ووضح في الرؤية بين جميع الإطراف الرئيسية, اي الجامعة صاحبة المبادرة والنظام والمعارضة, وبالتالي نعتبر موضوع الحوار واللقاء والمكان والزمان هي مسائل سابقة لأوانها, وهذه المسائل لم نطرحها ولم نوافق عليها ولم نقبل بها, ولكن بنفس الوقت لم نرفضها, واعتبرناها مسائل متأخرة.
The NCA has welcomed yet not accepted the AL intiative

كلنا شركاء: ذكرت مصادر صحفية انه توجد لدى هيئة التنسيق نية لحضور مؤتمر الحوار الوطني الذي سيعقد خلال فترة قريبة في دمشق, ما صحة هذه المعلومات؟
We will not participate in the upcomming, Regime-sponsored “National Dialogue” before securing the right conditions ofr its success.

أمين سر الهيئة: هذه المعلومات غير صحيحة على الإطلاق, نحن لن ندخل في اي حوار مع النظام قبل توفير المقدمات ومناخ لعقد مثل هكذا حوار, عندما تتوفر المقدمات سنناقش مسألة المشاركة في الحوار, هذا موقفنا الرسمي وغير ذلك هي معلومات غير رسمية.

كلنا شركاء: دعت الهيئة في بيان لها يوم أمس, الى إلى الإضراب العام على مستوى محافظة أو عدة محافظات، والذي يعمل أحرار شعبنا مع هيئة التنسيق لإنضاج ظروفه و مستلزماته السياسية والتنظيمية، ووصولا من بعده وفي التوقيت المناسب إلى العصيان المدني التام الشامل لماذا لا تدعوا الهيئة الى الإضراب العام او إعلان العصيان المدني؟

أمين سر الهيئة: أولا: بيان الهيئة لا يعني الدعوة الى إضراب عام شامل على مستوى سوريا ككل, ونعتبر الإضراب جزء من النضال السلمي, ويقطع الطريق على اي تدخل عسكري, كما انه يقطع الطريق على عسكرة الثورة. ثانيا: يؤكد البيان على رؤية الهيئة بكيفية النضال السلمي في عملية التغير السلمي الديمقراطي, والتي تبدأ بالمظاهرات ثم الإضرابات وصولا الى العصيان المدني, الى ان نصل الى مرحلة التغيير الديمقراطي بشكل سلمي, هذا هو المنهج العام. اما عندما تنضج الظروف سواء على المستوى الزماني او المكاني لأنها تحتاج كل مرحلة الى نضوجها, فنحن نقدر الآن ان الظروف في مدينة حلب ملا غير مهيأة لإعلان إضراب عام في هذه المنطقة, ومن يقدر هذه الظروف هم النشطاء الميدانيين لإعلان مثل هكذا اضراب, ونحن نؤكد في بياناتنا وسياستنا على هذه المبادئ, لأننا مع النضال السلمي وله قواعد معروفة, يبدأ بالمظاهرات ووصولا الى الإضرابات وينتهي بالعصيان المدني, وهذه طبيعة النضال السلمي الذي يتناقض قطعا مع عسكرة الثورة سواء بعمليات محدودة او موسعة او انقسامات في الجيش او غير ذلك, وهذا ما قصدناها في البيان.

كلنا شركاء: قال الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد في مقابلة مع التلفزيون الروسي القناة الأولى” ان اي عدوان على سوريا سيؤدي الى زلزال يضر كل المنطقة ولمسافات بعيدة, وإذا اهتز الشرق الأوسط فكل العالم سيهتز” هل تعتقد ان الأزمة السورية تزداد تعقيدا؟

Instead of making explosive threats, Asad should have explained the regime’s views of the conflict and whether he still sees it as a conspiracy or an internal problem.

أمين سر الهيئة: كان من المفترض ان يتحدث أيضا الرئيس السوري عن موقف النظام السوري من هذه الأزمة, وتوضيح الموقف الرسمي من هذه المسائل, وهل يريد حل الأزمة؛ ام أنهم فقط يصرون أنها مؤامرة خارجية, وبذلك يكون النظام قد تجاهل ركنا أساسيا من صورة ما يجري في سوريا, فما يحدث ليس مؤامرة خارجية كما يروج لها, لان هذه الأزمة لا تحل الا بتقديم حلول جدية لها, وبغياب حل داخلي للازمة؛ يساعد ذلك على التدخل الخارجي, كما يساعد على النتيجة التي تحدث عنها الرئيس.

كلنا شركاء: تضاربت الأنباء عن جهود توحيد المعارضة السورية, معلومات تقول ان النقاشات بين هيئة التنسيق والمجلس الوطني وصلت الى مراحل متقدمة, ومصادر أخرى تنفي عقد لقاءات رسمية بين الطرفين الأساسيين للمعارضة, الى أين وصلت الجهود الرامية لتوحيد صفوف المعارضة؟

أمين سر الهيئة: الحوار بيننا وبين شخصيات من المجلس الوطني مستمرة, ولكن حتى الآن لا يوجد حوار رسمي بين الهيئة بصفتها الرسمية وبين المجلس الوطني بصفته الرسمية, والمساعي مازالت مستمرة من قبل شخصيات من الهيئة مكلفة لأجراء حوار مع شخصيات من المجلس الوطني. هدف هذا الحوار محاولة الاتفاق على قواسم سياسية مشتركة, أول هذه القواسم الاتفاق على موضوع التدخل الخارجي والذي يعد من بين القضايا الأساسية لأي اتفاق, كما أنها برزت كنقطة خلاف بين الطرفين, لأنه لا يوجد خلاف على جوهر التغيير الديمقراطي, كما انه لا يوجد خلاف على نبذ التجييش المذهبي والطائفي. ولكن هناك خلاف جدي وحقيقي على المفاهيم والمصطلحات, وبالتالي من الضروري الاتفاق عليها. ضمن هذه المعطيات والتوافق على خط سياسي مشترك, نحن دعاة توحيد, وهذا يشمل الجميع ليس فقط المجلس الوطني بل مع كل جهة معارضة, ولدينا استعداد ضمن هذه الثوابت التنسيق معها. ولكن حتى هذه اللحظة لم يجري اي اتصال رسمي بين قيادة هيئة التنسيق وقيادة المجلس الوطني, ومازالت الاتصالات ذات طابع فردي تتم بين شخصيات من الطرفين, ونأمل ونسعى ان يكون هناك تنسيق بين جميع الإطراف المعنية.

As members we are in touch with counterparts in the SNC. There is agreement on the goal yet differences linger when it comes to certain concepts and technicalities.

كلنا شركاء: نشرت الشبكة السورية لحقوق الإنسان في بيان لها أول أمس, قائمة من 29 شخصية معارضة قالت أنهم تلقوا أموالا من الخارج, وان لديها وثائق ومستندات تثبت ذلك. القائمة شملت اسم عضوين بارزين في هيئة التنسيق الوطنية هما أمين سر الهيئة وعضو في مكتبها التنفيذي, كيف ستتعامل الهيئة مع هذا الأمر, وما هي الخطوات التي ستتخذونها بحق الجهات الإعلامية التي نشرت البيان؟

أمين سر الهيئة: أريد مناقشة المسألة من ناحية موقف الهيئة لأنها معنية بالدرجة الأولى بما نشر من معلومات غير صحيحة جملة وتفصلا, والهيئة ستصدر بيانا خاصا لتحدد موقفها من هذا السلوك, وترى أنها هجمة تستهدف المعارضة, لأنها لا تمس الأشخاص بصفتهم الشخصية, أنما هي جزء من هجمة على هيئة التنسيق وقوى المعارضة, وهو أسلوب سيء جدا من قبل النظام اذ انه يدعي وجود معارضة وطنية وبنفس الوقت يقوم بتشويش سمعتها من خلال تناول رموز أساسية من خلال هذه الأساليب, وهذا نهج غير مقبول ويبدوا انه لا يعرف التعامل مع الآخرين الا من خلال الضغط والتهديد, وبالتالي هي محاولة من إطراف من النظام لقطع اي حلول للخروج من الأزمة. خصوصا ان الأشخاص الذين وردت أسمائهم من الهيئة ليس هناك اي مجال للتشكيك او الاتهام لعدم وجود اي علاقة بين هذه الأسماء التي وردت في القائمة مع الخارج, لا مهنية تذكر ولا علاقات عملية يمكن البناء عليها او تأويلها. وقررت الهيئة رفع دعاوي قضائية على كل المسؤولين عن نشر هذه الأكاذيب, وترى بان هذا الموضوع يعد موضوعا جديا ولن تقبل بمجرد اعتذارات جزئية او انه عبارة عن ورود خطأ من جهة ما, لان الجهات التي نشرت الخبر هي جهات رسمية ونحن ندرك من هي القوى التي تقف خلفها, وفي الوقت المناسب سنحاسب هؤلاء قانونيا عن طريق القضاء مهما كانت مناصبهم او صفاتهم.

It is a shame that the regime who wants dialogue with the internal opposition makes such attempts at smearing their reputation! It looks like the regime does know how to deal with others except by pressure and manipulation!

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:47 pm

 

685. jad said:

A curfew in Homs is a necessity now.

I wonder who will be responsible and have the power over the FSA to stop them.

“الاعلان رسميا عن الورقة العربية من قبل الشيخ حمد بن جاسم في مؤتمر الجامعة العربية :

موافقة سورية على الورقة العربية والتي تنص على:
– وقف كافة أعمال العنف من كل الأطراف حماية للمدنيين.
– رفض التدخل الخارجي في الشؤون الداخلية.
– اخلاء سبيل المعتقلين.
– الغاء المظاهر المسلحة في جميع الأحياء السكنية.
– السماح للجهات المختصة في الجامعة العربية ووسائل الاعلام التنقل بحرية وإلى أي مكان تريد.

الشيخ حمد بن جاسم يقول : نحن سعداء بالتوصل الى هذا الاتفاق وسنكون أسعد عندما يطبق فورا من باب الحرص على الأشقاء في سورية”

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:47 pm

 

686. Ya Mara Ghalba said:

The following is a video of a big pro-regime rally today 2 Nov in Salamiya city in Hama province. Total population of the Salamiya metro area is 113,000 (Source (year 2010)). Most of the women in the video are not wearing a head covering. Women wearing a head covering are visible between time 0:37 and 0:43, for example, and at other times, but are outnumbered. According to Wikipedia, “Salamiyah is currently the largest population center of Ismaili Muslims in the Arab world.” Perhaps that info from Wikipedia is true. But Wikipedia also says the population of Salamiya is 200,000, with no citation for its source, and that bit of info is greatly false. Today’s pro-regime demonstration in Salamiya is much, much bigger than any of the anti-regime demonstrations in Salamiya you can find at youtube.

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:56 pm

 

687. majedkhaldoun said:

Let us see if the regime in Syria is honest, let us see massive peaceful demonstrations,In Damascus ,in Aleppo, in Hama and Homs, to the streets day and night.

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November 2nd, 2011, 12:59 pm

 

688. jad said:

It turns out that #671 Alhooleh massacre was done by the same terrorist gangs of #669 because the owner of that factory refused to close his work for the ‘strike’ they ordered him with so the price was attacking his factory and killing all his workers:

مجزرة معمل محارم حمص التي قام بها الارهابيون
تاريخ العهر والاجرام يشهد لهم افعالهم وتصرفاتهم هاهم يكررون بطولاتهم الاجرامية الوسخة ويتفاخرون بها فيقتلون كل من يرفض كفرهم وحقدهم واجرامهم ويصورونهم بغية اتهام الامن والجيش بقتله حقدهم اعماهم والله سبحانه وتعالى سخرنا لكشف زيفهم واجرامهم
هؤلاء ابرياء يعملون في معمل محارم رفض صاحبه الانصياع لرغبة المجرمين في الاضراب فقاموا بفتح النار على عماله وقتلهم
حمص
مجزرة الحولة الدموية
02.11.2011

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November 2nd, 2011, 1:19 pm

 

689. Ghat Al Bird said:

@677. ZOO.

WELCOME NEWS. A VICTORY FOR ALL CONCERNED EXCEPT THE ZIONISTS.

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November 2nd, 2011, 1:27 pm

 

690. Ya Mara Ghalba said:

#677 quotes the spokesman of the committee tasked with revising the whole Constitution, Sam Della, saying what’s going to happen to Article 8 “is the most controversial item… and it is axiomatic that it would be reviewed or omitted.”

There’s no one in pro-regime quarters who’s advocating retention of Article 8. It is not controversial at all. Bashar said on 20 June 2011:

What reform do we want? What are the details which we want and which we believe are useful?…. As to the constitution, do we replace a few articles of the constitution, including article (8), or do we change the whole constitution since it was written about forty years ago, and it might be better to change it completely. Some people suggest that we undertake certain steps now and amend some articles, and later on make a revision of the whole constitution. http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/06/21/353686.htm

They’ve since decided to re-do the whole Constitution, not just replace Article 8. They are moving slower than they can move. They are too slow. Basha also said on 20 June 2011: “A lot has been said about the delays in reform. I talked about this in front of the People’s Assembly and said that we are a bit late. Some people started to ask why they are late. There is no justification. I said that we are late.” And now they’re even later, assuming the new Constitution doesn’t arrive until February.

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November 2nd, 2011, 1:41 pm

 

691. Areal said:

FICTION

Syrian soldiers are defecting with their arms to protest the peaceful “unarmed” organized by the SNC funded by Homsi merchants.

REALITY

Lebanese Sources: Arrested Smuggler Confessed to Transporting Weapons to Armed Groups in Syria

Oct 31, 2011

BEIRUT, (SANA) – Lebanese security sources said that during the interrogation of a smuggler arrested by the Lebanese authorities, the man confessed to smuggling weapons and ammo to Syria to be delivered to armed groups, pointing out that the man named partners involved in these operations and his associates are currently known to the Lebanese authorities and judiciary.

In an article An article published on Monday, Lebanon’s al-Safir newspaper reported that based on the information available to the Lebanese authority, the man worked between Lebanon and a country in the Arab Gulf, gathering funds and purchasing weapons and ammo then smuggling them into Syria through illegal crossing points on the borders with the help of Lebanese and Syrian associates.

Another source from the Lebanese General Directorate of Public Security said that the arrested man, Ammar Omar al-Adib, was caught red-handed and confessed to the charges against him.

In a statement, the Lebanese Army’s General Staff affirmed that it’s coordinating with the Syrian side whenever the need arises in accordance with agreements between the two countries to resolve any security issue on their borders.

The General Staff said that its units act instantly and carry out its missions thoroughly to control borders and prevent smuggling and the sneaking of gunmen.

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November 2nd, 2011, 1:45 pm

 

692. Areal said:

Amnesty International report on Syrian Hospitals

REALITY : A flawed lazy report

BEIRUT, (SANA) – Professor Franklin Lamb, member of the Amnesty International (AI) criticized the AI’s report on the health sector in Syria published on October 25th under the title “Health Crisis: Syrian Government Targets the Wounded and Health Workers”.

In an interview with al-Manar TV website, Lamb said “Amnesty International claimed, without convincing material, probative or relevant evidence that the Syrian authorities have turned hospital since March 2011 into instruments of repression in order to crush protests and demonstrations and in some cases they were prevented from medical care while others taken to hospital have been detained or have simply disappeared.”

He said that despite the great distinction between Syria and Libya, their medical professions and current challenges, the AI’s conclusion from its “research” in Syria is virtually identical to what it concluded from its investigation in Libya on the same subject.

Lamb added that the report consisted significantly of collecting Al Jazeera and Al Arabia type media accounts including the dubious reports on the same subject by the CNN, and sundry anonymous Youtube clips.

“AI offers as its proof of these claims the weakest and seemingly most competition-driven support of any Amnesty International reports I have read. It reeks of yet another orientalist double standard and ignores similar claims from citizens in western countries of similar actions by their governments,” the professor said.

He added that “I recently had the opportunity to visit some of Syria’s largest state-run Ministry of Health hospitals, accompanied by administrators and medical staffs, such as Damascus Hospital and al- Mowasat,” indicating that the AI could have done so instead of relying on reports and it still has the opportunity to.

Lamd said that he was able to meet some of health workers at Damascus General Hospital and discuss issues raised by Amnesty International, including Dr. Mahmoud Naji, the Director of the Emergency Department and Intensive Care Unit at Damascus Hospital and Dr. Adib Mahmoud, the Hospital administrator.

He noted that the workers in the medical field in Syria complained of the AI’ s Amnesty International’s “gratuitous defamation of Syria’s medical community, indicating that the AI’s charges that Syrian medical staff humiliate or refuse to treat patients brought laughter from some care givers at Damascus Hospital as they explained the strict procedure they abide by from the moment a patient arrives at the emergency entrance.

Lamb delivered the proposal made by a doctor who appeared a bit offended by the AI’s accusations to request from among scores of current or former patients their permission to provide AI with their phone numbers so they could discuss privately AI’s sweeping and unsupported allegations against the Syrian Medical community.

The American professor was invited to literally follow arriving emergency room patients as they were admitted and treated and until they were assigned a bed in the appropriate ward. The nurse told him that “the patient privacy rules are very strict in Syria and we can only ask medical and certainly not political questions.”

He added that he spoke for almost every Syrian medical person and what they insist that they are doctors and care givers with a variety of political views which they leave at home, stressing their commitment to their Hippocratic Oath which they take seriously.

Lamb concluded that “the Amnesty International falls significantly below an objective standard and fails to shoulder its burden of proof for the charges it levels at Syria’s medical community.”

“The fact that AI appears to have been somewhat lazy in its work and continues hyping its deeply flawed “investigation” is egregious.
AI also failed to meet the standard of investigative work that we will continue to support and endorse its human rights work expected from it,” he added.

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November 2nd, 2011, 1:59 pm

 

693. Areal said:

FICTION

Syrian soldiers are defecting with their arms to protest the peaceful “unarmed” organized by the SNC funded by Homsi merchants.

REALITY by Lebanese Authorities

Lebanese Sources: Arrested Smuggler Confessed to Transporting Weapons to Armed Groups in Syria

Oct 31, 2011

BEIRUT, (SANA) – Lebanese security sources said that during the interrogation of a smuggler arrested by the Lebanese authorities, the man confessed to smuggling weapons and ammo to Syria to be delivered to armed groups, pointing out that the man named partners involved in these operations and his associates are currently known to the Lebanese authorities and judiciary.

In an article An article published on Monday, Lebanon’s al-Safir newspaper reported that based on the information available to the Lebanese authority, the man worked between Lebanon and a country in the Arab Gulf, gathering funds and purchasing weapons and ammo then smuggling them into Syria through illegal crossing points on the borders with the help of Lebanese and Syrian associates.

Another source from the Lebanese General Directorate of Public Security said that the arrested man, Ammar Omar al-Adib, was caught red-handed and confessed to the charges against him.

In a statement, the Lebanese Army’s General Staff affirmed that it’s coordinating with the Syrian side whenever the need arises in accordance with agreements between the two countries to resolve any security issue on their borders.

The General Staff said that its units act instantly and carry out its missions thoroughly to control borders and prevent smuggling and the sneaking of gunmen.

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November 2nd, 2011, 2:37 pm

 

694. Areal said:

REALITY : French Doctors Delegation:
What We Saw on Ground Different from Media Reports

French doctors, visiting Damascus, took part on Sunday in a solidarity stand with Syria at al-Basel Heart Surgery Center in Damascus.

Members of the delegation stressed in statements to SANA that the aim of their visit is inspecting the reality of what is happening in Syria firsthand far from the reports broadcast by satellite channels.

The delegation pointed out to the importance of such visits in getting to know the reality of events, stressing that what they saw on their visits to different places is different from the reports broadcast by media and confirms that Syria and its people are fine.

The delegations stressed that life in Syria is normal and the markets are full of people, adding that they will relay what they saw during their visit to Syria to the French public opinion.

They highlighted the importance of friendship between the peoples of France and Syria, calling for holding more conferences, organizing visits and exchanging delegations between the two countries.

Members of the delegation said that their meetings with Syrian doctors uncovered the truth of the false image broadcast with the aim of harming Syria and its people.

For his part, head of the Doctors’ Union, Abdul-Qader Hassan, called for expanding the medical cooperation between Syria and France, noting that 6.000 Syrian doctors are working at French hospitals.

The French delegation watched a documentary on Syria, the cradle of civilizations, and the characteristics of every Syrian city.

The delegation also inspected the departments of al-Basel Heart Surgery Center and visited the old city of Damascus and the Umayyad Mosque.

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November 2nd, 2011, 2:39 pm

 

695. Majed97 said:

The location where the dialogue with the opposition will be held has not been determined yet…

الخطة العربية تنص على:

“1- وقف كافة أعمال العنف من أي مصدر كان حماية للمواطنين السوريين.

2-الإفراج عن المعتقلين بسبب الأحداث الراهنة.

3-إخلاء المدن والأحياء السكنية من جميع المظاهر المسلحة.

4- فتح المجال أمام منظمات جامعة الدول العربية المعنية ووسائل الإعلام العربية والدولية للتنقل بحرية في جميع أنحاء سوريا للاطلاع على حقيقة الأوضاع ورصد ما يدور فيها من أحداث”.

وتنص الخطة العربية كذلك وفقا لمشروع القرار، على انه “مع إحراز تقدم ملموس في تنفيذ الحكومة السورية لتعهداتها الواردة في البند السابق تباشر اللجنة الوزارية العربية القيام بإجراء الاتصالات والمشاورات اللازمة مع الحكومة ومختلف أطراف المعارضة السورية من اجل الإعداد لانعقاد مؤتمر حوار وطني”، ولم يحدد مشروع القرار مكان الحوار الذي كانت هناك خلافات حوله مع إصرار النظام السوري على أن يكون هذا الحوار في دمشق وتمسك المعارضة بانعقاده خارج سوريا.

http://syrianow.sy/index.php?d=2&id=39568

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November 2nd, 2011, 3:22 pm

 

696. zoo said:

The military in Egypt are copying the Turkish model whereby the army garanteed the constitution from 1961 to 2001.

New outcry erupts in Egypt against military rulers
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=27181

CAIRO (AP) — Egypt’s military rulers have triggered a new public outcry with a proposal that critics see as an attempt to enshrine a supreme political role for themselves in the new constitution.

The furor is over a new government-sponsored proposal of overarching principles that would guide the drafting of a new constitution. The proposal only requires adoption by the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces to make it binding.{…}

THIS IS THE TURKISH MODEL

‘Turkey’s Military Is a Catalyst for Reform
The Military in Politics
http://www.meforum.org/2160/turkey-military-catalyst-for-reform

“Analysts generally consider military influence in politics and society to be a critical impediment to the development of democratic political and civil rights and freedoms. According to Freedom House, for example, greater military involvement in government politics decreases civil liberties and political rights in any given country; this infringes on a government’s ability to develop democracy.[1]

In 1826, Sultan Mahmud II broke the power of the sultan’s guards, the Janissaries, enabling him to reform the military and begin Westernization of the empire.
Turkey may be an exception. The military has deep roots in society, and its influence predates the founding of the republic. But rather than hinder democratization, Turkey’s military remains an important component in the checks and balances that protect Turkish democracy. Herein lies an irony: European officials have made diminishment of military influence a key reform in Turkey’s European Union accession process. This may be a noble goal, but by insisting on dismantling the military role in Turkish society without advancing a new mechanism to guarantee the constitution, well-meaning reformers may actually undercut the stability of Turkey as a democracy.

From Turkey’s founding, the military assumed responsibility for guaranteeing the republic’s constitution. Article 35 of the Turkish Armed Service Internal Service Code of 1961 declared that the “duty of the armed forces is to protect and safeguard Turkish territory and the Turkish Republic as stipulated by the constitution.”[…}

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November 3rd, 2011, 11:22 am

 

697. bronco said:

Approached by the AL, the SNC bluntly rejects the proposed dialog : “NO”

Arab League chief meets Syria opposition group
Thursday, November 3, 2011
CAIRO – Agence France-Presse
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=arab-league-chief-met-syria-opposition-group-2011-11-03

Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi met Syrian opposition figures Thursday, a day after Damascus agreed to open talks with dissidents, a member of the Syrian National Council said.

Arabi “briefed us on the details of the Arab League initiative and its goals … aimed at finding an Arab solution to the Syrian crisis based on the need to stop the bloodshed in Syria,” said Samir al-Nashar, a member of the executive bureau of the SNC.

Damascus pledged on Wednesday to withdraw its forces from protest centres and engage in a dialogue with the opposition under an Arab League plan to end the bloodshed.

The SNC, the largest and most representative Syrian opposition grouping, on Wednesday urged the Arab League to freeze Syria’s membership in the Arab League and recognise it as the sole representative of the Syrian opposition.

Asked if the SNC agrees to engage in talks with the Syrian regime, Nashar said: “No.

“We are not talking about a dialogue. We offered to engage in negotiations to move from a authoritarian regime to a democratic regime. And we ask that Bashar al-Assad resign.

“We told the secretary general of our fears that the regime will not keep its promises,” Nashar added.

Asked if Syria gave guarantees concerning the implementation of the peace plan, Nashar said Arabi informed the delegation that an Arab ministerial task force will follow up on the implementation of the roadmap.

Meanwhile, an Arab diplomat said the ministerial task force is expected to visit Syria soon to follow up on the implementation of the agreement.

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November 3rd, 2011, 11:39 am

 

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