Clinton Helps Shape New Syrian Gov in Exile

Obama administration works to launch new Syrian opposition council, Posted By Josh Rogin, Foreign Policy

Syrian opposition leaders of all stripes will convene in Qatar next week to form a new leadership body to subsume the opposition Syrian National Council, which is widely viewed as ineffective, consumed by infighting, and little respected on the ground, The Cable has learned.

The United States is withdrawing support for the Syrian National Council (SNC) and helping form a more representative opposition group. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said “There has to be representation of those who are on the front lines, fighting and dying today to obtain their freedom.” The SNC is largely comprised of exiles. The Obama administration has been working behind the scenes for several months in negotiations to build a new Syrian opposition leadership. Clinton said she has been heavily involved in planning an Arab League supported meeting for next week in Doha, Qatar, where opposition figures will work to form a new opposition body. U.S. ambassador to Syria Robert Ford, pulled form Syria last year due to safety concerns, has also been working to assemble a new group. It is expected to have between 35 and 50 representatives, up to one third of which will likely go to members of the SNC. Former Syrian Prime Minister Riyad Hijab, who defected in August, is one of the people proposed for the new council. Addressing increasing reports of Islamist extremist involvement in fighting in Syria, Clinton also warned the opposition should “strongly resist the efforts by the extremists to hijack the Syrian revolution.” Meeting with U.N. and Arab League envoy on Syria Lakdar Brahimi, China proposed a plan to end violence in Syria including a regionally phased ceasefire and establishment of a transitional government. Meanwhile, violence continued Wednesday with street fights in Aleppo and a bombing in Atarib, 12 miles west of the city, which hit a breadline and killed at least 15 people. Additionally, a bomb exploded at a Shiite shrine in Damascus near a government checkpoint.

Clinton’s statements slammed as ‘astounding’ by SNC – aljazeera

Louay Safia, member of the Syrian National Council, called recent comments by Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, regarding the SNC “an astounding statement”.

Though Safia admits the largely foreign-based opposition group has under-performed in some areas, he said “the secretrary will have to take some credit for that”.

In response to Clinton’s fears of “extremist” groups taking hold in the Syrian opposition, Safia says such groups are everywhere, but “in Syria they are very marginal”.

Safia then went on to criticse US policy in Syria saying Washington is currently working on a deal with Moscow and that the Obama administration “would like to have quiet in Syria”, even if that means Bashar al-Assad, Syrian president, retains some level of power.

The Creation Of A U.S.-Approved Syrian Government In Exile – OpEd
By: Paul Woodward, October 31, 2012

Is American diplomacy an oxymoron? The Syrian opposition has been notoriously fractured, so the goal of forging unity among what have hitherto been disparate groups clearly makes sense. What makes no sense but should be no surprise is Washington’s typical heavy-handedness in trying to achieve this goal.

An upcoming Qatar meeting “will include dozens of opposition leaders from inside Syria, including from the provincial revolutionary councils, the local ‘coordination committees’ of activists, and select people from the newly established local administrative councils.

So far so good. But then comes this message from a senior Obama administration official: “We need to be clear: This is what the Americans support, and if you want to work with us you are going to work with this plan and you’re going to do this now,” the official said. “We aren’t going to waste anymore time. The situation is worsening. We need to do this now.”

Stand to attention and follow our instructions because America is running out of patience.

Is that the kind of admonition that’s going to smooth out all the discord? I don’t think so. What it is, is the imperial American way….

Fighting erupts between Syrian rebels and Kurds – Liz Sly in Washington Post

BEIRUT — Nearly a week of fighting between Kurds and Arab rebels in northern Syria risks opening a new front in the already bloody battle for control of the country, underscoring the complexity of a conflict that threatens to ignite sectarian and ethnic tensions across the region…..
Russian SA-7’s in Syria?
A friend writes:
Thank you for your thorough reporting on all things Syria. Your blog is the best place to get information, and informed opinion, on what’s happening.
I don’t know if you have read this op-ed already, but it is quite astonishing. Do you have any evidence, or heard any rumours, that the US was involved in gun running from Libya to the Syrian rebels? Could the Russian SA-7′s which the rebels have been using recently come from Gadaffi’s looted stores of Russian weapons?
Retired Adm. James A. Lyons, former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations recently wrote an op-ed asking some rather pointed questions, and making some astonishing claims:
Obama needs to come clean on what happened in Benghazi
Washington Times
Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations.
We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety.  According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.”

Syrian rebels execute unarmed government soldiers; dozens killed in fighting
By Babak Dehghanpisheh, Thursday, November 1, 12: Wash Post

BEIRUT— Syrian rebels executed at least a half-dozen unarmed government soldiers Thursday after attacks on a series of checkpoints near the town of Saraqeb in northwest Syria.

At least 28 government soldiers and five opposition fighters were killed in the rebel operation that targeted checkpoints on roads connecting Saraqeb to Aleppo and Ariha, according to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The execution of the soldiers, which was documented in a graphic video posted online Thursday, is not the first time that rebel soldiers appear to have committed war crimes. United Nations representatives and human rights organizations have repeatedly criticized the Syrian opposition in recent months for carrying out summary executions and for abusing detainees.

In early August, members of a clan loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad were executed by rebels and a gruesome video of that killing was widely disseminated on the Internet. That killing prompted some commanders of the Free Syrian Army to write a code of conduct for their fighters in an attempt to curb human rights abuses. But the execution of the soldiers Thursday was a clear sign that the code is not being observed by all the rank and file. ….

The video posted online Thursday, which allegedly was filmed at the Hamisho checkpoint west of Saraqeb, shows rebel soldiers kicking and insulting the government soldiers who are spread out on the ground. Some of them appear to be wounded. One of the soldiers pleads, “I did not hit anyone, by Allah. I did not kill anyone.”

The man filming the video tells the soldier to shut up and says, “Organize them for me.” The fighters pull the soldiers into a pile in the center of the room and open fire on the group, kicking up clouds of dust. The shooting continues for 20 seconds.

A second video posted online Thursday, which appears to have been filmed shortly after the execution, shows at least three other bodies spread out around the checkpoint. The man filming approaches two of the bodies and says, “The shabiha of Assad, the dogs.”

A friend writes:

This week there are clashes between FSA and popular committees from two predominantly Shiite towns. The two towns fighting the FSA are Nubbol (population 21,000) and al-Zahraa (poulation 14,000), about 10 miles north of Aleppo on the way to Azaz (FSA) and Afrain (Kurds), and just north of Anadan (FSA) and Hretan (FSA). The news clip said that the armed committees from Nubbol and al-Zahraa supported by Syrian Army artillery and tank fires, attacked the FSR in Anand.

The creation of a U.S.-approved Syrian government in exile
Posted: 31 Oct 2012

Is American diplomacy an oxymoron? The Syrian opposition has been notoriously fractured, so the goal of forging unity among what have hitherto been disparate groups clearly makes sense. What makes no sense but should be no surprise is Washington’s typical heavy-handedness in trying to achieve this goal. An upcoming Qatar meeting “will include dozens of […]

Mona Yacoubian, Shifting the Pradigm in Syria

…..Further militarization of the Syrian conflict would exacerbate an already volatile situation on the ground, deepening and protracting Syria’s sectarian civil war. Far from providing relief for innocent civilians, fueling the conflict with more arms risks further endangering civilians. The armed opposition’s inability to unify and its continued radicalization as well as enduring divisions between key patrons, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, underscore the inherent risks of this option. Differences among Syria’s various armed opposition groups, not to mention between Arabs and Kurds, could erupt into open hostilities in Syria’s mounting chaos. Meanwhile, jihadist elements, while still a distinct minority, appear to be gaining influence.

Moreover, the arming process could pose a significant threat to U.S. national security interests given the difficulty of ensuring that the arms ultimately do not end up in the wrong hands. The blowback of U.S. interventions in Iraq in the 2000s and Afghanistan in the 1980s is a potent reminder of the risks. Experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan also suggest that arming the opposition will not necessarily confer greater U.S. influence on them should they come to power. Time and again, the United States has been confronted with the limits of its influence if it was garnered solely by supplying arms and in the absence of deeper political and strategic common interests.

Nor does channeling more sophisticated weaponry to the armed rebels guarantee that they will gain a strategic edge over the regime. Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia — the Syrian regime’s primary patrons — would likely meet such an escalation with a commensurate upping of the ante. Already, Tehran has doubled down on its support for the regime since mid-July when the rebels mounted a successful attack against key elements of the regime and escalated the battle in Damascus and Aleppo. Likewise, Hezbollah has provided greater support to the Assad regime, reportedly sending fighters to train and possibly fight alongside the shabiha, Syria’s sectarian paramilitary forces.

Establishing a safe zone in northern Syria will require a significant U.S. military commitment. The United States will necessarily need to play a leading role in disabling Syria’s complex air defense systems, including batteries south of Damascus. Moreover, a safe zone will require a military presence (possibly Turkish or Arab) on the ground to defend the area. U.S. military involvement in Syria, even if limited to air strikes, likely would catalyze jihadist involvement in Syria, drawing more foreign fighters into an arena in which the United States is directly engaged.

Rather than pursue military options, the United States needs to build a broad-based coalition for a peaceful transition in Syria. It should seek to create conditions that will alter the dynamic from militarization to diplomacy. The United States must resist the temptation to join a sectarian battle that threatens to engulf the region. It should tamp down sectarian tensions across the region, not play into them by viewing Syria solely via a sectarian prism that pits the region’s Sunni powers against the arc of Shiite influence spearheaded by Iran.

Instead, the United States must rise above the violence and help provide a way out of the crisis. Washington should leverage the latest escalations — both inside Syria and regionally — to assert its leadership via NATO and the United Nations and shift the dynamic regionally and globally. It should seek to turn the real danger of a regional war into an opening for regional and global diplomacy backed by the credible threat of force via Article 5 of the NATO treaty should these efforts fail……

Kati Woronka, who writes the blog,ed Culturtwined has a new book about

Syrian culture and society, particularly from the perspective of Syrian women. After several years living in Syria and conducting academic research there, I began writing stories based on what I was learning. Dreams in the Medina is a full-length novel, a coming-of-age tale which explores the aspirations, passions and tragedies of a group of young Syrian women, who on the surface seem to have nothing in common but who are brought together in the deepest of bonds as they study and live together at the University of Damascus.

The book is now available for download as an e-book! My desire is that this book will be a discussion. Read it with friends and talk about Syria. Transport yourself to the world of the Medina Jamayeia in Damascus and relive the dreams of youth. Then, tell me what you think and how I can improve this project!

**The stunning cover image is by the brilliant artist Suhair Sibai. See more of her work here.


Tom Schutyser’s new book
, “CARAVANSERAI – Traces, Places, Dialogue in the Middle East”

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101. Tara said:

Funny how bigots know themselves. Funnier that they shot off their brain from learning anything that challenges their bigoted believes. Jesus must be fuming as his name is being used to spread hatred..

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November 2nd, 2012, 6:26 pm

 

102. Warren said:

Impressive rebuttal from Taqqiyya Tara. Lie and deny, classic tried and tested sunni tactics.

Islam is false, and Sunni Islam is the biggest threat to the civilized world. 9/11, Madrid ’04, London ’07, etc. Countless Sunni terror plots uncovered and prevented.

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November 2nd, 2012, 6:39 pm

 

103. Syrialover said:

WARREN is a sad, ignorant, unbalanced bore.

Just imagine the nightmare of being a relative, neighbour or work colleague of his (I excluded the friend category as he wouldn’t have any).

You’d be forced to run to save your sanity every time he opened his mouth!

His loneliness and lack of social outlets scream through his obsessive time wasting cut-pasting and hatred bursts on SyriaComment.

But it is also an insult to those who come to this site because they care about Syria.

He’s like a deranged person shouting incoherently at a public meeting, who gets ushered out by security personnel then rushes manically back in through a window, a side door or chimney to continue ranting.

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November 2nd, 2012, 6:40 pm

 

104. Johannes de Silentio said:

96 WARREN

“Taken collectively these verses mean there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.”

So what? There are similar instances in other religions. In the Jewish faith, for example, the name “Jacob” (he’s the father of the Jews) means “deceiver.” And yes, he was a tricky little piece of work.

You people call him Yaqub

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November 2nd, 2012, 6:46 pm

 

105. Syrialover said:

Very interesting piece on why some people will always collaborate with dictators.

Article: The Collaborator’s Song

We often ask why some people choose to resist authoritarian regimes. But the better question might be why so many decide to cooperate

Conclusion: As we saw in Eastern Europe, it is always possible to make people collaborate for a time. But by doing so, they do not therefore acquire immutable “totalitarian personalities,” as Hannah Arendt once speculated. Even when it seems as if they are in full agreement with the most absurd propaganda — even if they are marching in parades, chanting slogans, singing that the party is always right — the spell can suddenly and dramatically be broken.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/10/31/the_collaborators_song

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November 2nd, 2012, 6:55 pm

 

106. Tara said:

Warren

The hatred you are trying to propagate will consume you. You become its soul mate. You deserve hatred and hatred deserves you. It is the only emotion you are capable of feeling. I am not angry at you, I just pity you. You have never experienced the range of emotions normal people feel. You probably were never profoundly loved. It is just sad..

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November 2nd, 2012, 7:13 pm

 

107. Tara said:

Silentio

واللهِ انت حباب

Not because of your post above, but this is my general opinion about you, and pretty funny. Life is very boring, so it is good to be funny

I hope you understand Arabic. I just do not know how to translate it but it is a good thing.

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November 2nd, 2012, 7:19 pm

 

108. Tara said:

Amir

Where are you? Why did you disappear? You are the only Israeli friend I have. You should stick around to discuss the Arab-Israeli hatred when we get rid of Batta et al, remember ?

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November 2nd, 2012, 7:29 pm

 

109. MarigoldRan said:

Warren wrote:

“For all Al Assad’s faults and the excesses of the Baath Party; at least the current Syrian regime respects religious minorities and tolerates people who want to live a secular modern life. This cannot be said of the Sunni National Council and Sunni Fundamentalist Army.”

Yes, the current Baath party respects religious minorities. Unfortunately, it does not respect religious MAJORITIES such as, for example, the SUNNI MAJORITY THAT MAKES UP MOST OF SYRIA.

What Warren is saying in effect is that he supports the Assad regime because it supports his sect.

Fair enough. We’ll see who wins in the end.

P.S. Secular governments in the Arab world always end in disasters. Since most Arabs are Muslims, secular governments in the Middle East ALWAYS turn into totalitarian states to suppress the religious tendencies of their population.

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November 2nd, 2012, 7:30 pm

 

110. MarigoldRan said:

Warren, you say that Islam is false and evil. You’re talking about Syria. Most Syrians are Islamic. Therefore, you are saying that most Syrians follow a false and evil religion.

In other words, you are a troll.

Which means that I will treat you like a troll:

Warren, your words are ugly. Your thoughts are ugly. And your heart is ugly. May God have mercy on your soul.

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November 2nd, 2012, 7:52 pm

 

111. Tara said:

SC is boring me. It’s becoming bigots comment. I therefore will change it tonight to music comment.

This is the famous song “hello” originally by Lionel Richie being sung by the Arab Hussain al Jismi. It is much better by al Jismi in my opinion.

The lyrics are amazing . You must look it up.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=dk5z4ExwgGs

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November 2nd, 2012, 8:55 pm

 

112. Syrialover said:

Apologies for length of the excerpt but it’s a good summary

Syrian dissident pushes to unite fragmented opposition

(Reuters) – The fragmented Syrian opposition will attempt once again this weekend to forge a common policy to gain international respect, obtain weapons and, most importantly, topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a formerly imprisoned dissident said.

“An alternative to the regime is dearly needed,” said Riad Seif, a liberal politician who is battling cancer and managed to leave Syria only a few months ago after having been imprisoned.

“We are talking about a temporary period that begins with forming a political leadership until a national assembly that represents all Syrians meets in Damascus, once Assad falls,” Seif said in an interview with Reuters in Amman.

He spoke after talking to opposition figures in advance of a of a meeting of the wider opposition movement in Doha.

Unlike previous efforts that failed to come up with a unified leadership, Seif said the Doha assembly will be more inclusive, representing a myriad of religious and activists’ groupings as well as more members of Assad’s minority Alawite sect and Kurdish political leaders.

Among those Seif met in Amman was former Syrian Prime Minister Riad Hijab, who defected to Jordan three months ago and is playing a major role in the new effort led by Seif.

He also met with Suhair al-Atassi, an organizer of peaceful street demonstrations early in the revolt, and physician Kamal al-Labwani, a long-time political prisoner who is now an outspoken advocate for armed struggle.

“We have 10 million Syrians who need everything from housing to security to public services, and a regime we have to take every possible measure to remove to avoid more losses,” Seif said, referring to inhabitants of areas under rebel control or where central authority had collapsed.

The charismatic 66-year old, who has been suffering from cancer for years, is one of Syria’s most prominent dissidents.

Having been assaulted by Assad’s security forces at a pro-democracy demonstration early in the revolt, he commands respect on the ground as well from opposition figures, whose bickering has undermined the rebellion and made Western and regional powers wary of recognizing the opposition.

He proposes the formation of a new, 50-member civilian group that will later chose a temporary government and coordinate with the military wing of the revolt.

He said the 50-member assembly will represent the “effective powers in the revolution” and “be convincing to the Syrian people”, adding that efforts were being made to bring the rebels under a unified military command.

Western, Turkish and Arab recognition of the new opposition structure, Seif said, will help channel anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to the rebels and “decide the battle”.

Seif said independent figures, such as Syrian intellectual Sadeq Jalal al-Azm, will be in the group to lend credibility. Representatives of opposition local councils that are providing services in Syria’s 14 governates also will be on board.

Opposition sources said the success of Seif’s initiative would depend on how much he can resist pressure from the SNC to put more of its members in the new assembly, and reach a consensus on how respond to international initiative to deal with what is increasingly becoming a Syrian civil war.

“There is already talk that most of the members of the new assembly will be from the SNC. If this turns out to be true then Seif’s initiative may be doomed to failure,” said an SNC member who has been advocating a more representative opposition.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/us-syria-crisis-opposition-idUSBRE8A117O20121102

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November 2nd, 2012, 9:47 pm

 

113. Syrialover said:

TARA, MARIGOLDRAN

Wow, 10 straight posts without major disruption by WARREN. A miracle.

Though maybe not, most of the posts were about him and what a idiotic bigot and troll he is. More attention online in an hour or so than he’s probably had out there in the real world for many years put together.

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November 2nd, 2012, 9:57 pm

 

114. Johannes de Silentio said:

109 Tara

I agree. Boring. Too many assholes venting bile. Everybody needs to take five.

Speaking of taking five, here’s Pakistan’s Sachal Studios Orchestra doing the great Dave Brubeck hit song:

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November 3rd, 2012, 12:37 am

 

115. annie said:

“Any unknown future would be better than Syria’s agony

Amal Hanano
Oct 29, 2012

Asking “who’s going to win the election?” is not a preoccupation for Americans alone. It’s also the question I’ve had to answer most often lately when I speak to Syrian activists.
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They follow it up with “who’s better, Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?” I answer the first question this way: “I don’t know”. To the second one I say “For America, they are very different; for Syria, not so much.” This answer causes silences heavy with disappointment.

Most Syrians inside Syria have long rejected foreign military intervention. But they didn’t expect to find themselves, after 19 months of revolution, in this deadly stalemate. The flip side to the principled policy of “no intervention” has become the paralysis of watching rivers of blood flow through Syria’s cities, towns and villages.

In their desperation, Syrians have become cynical towards America’s true stance on the Assad regime. Still, they have given the Obama administration the benefit of the doubt, telling themselves that nothing will change before the US elections.

But as the number of dead steadily increased, the hope of a shift in US foreign policy towards Syria after the elections has faded. This was clearly expressed on October 19, the first Friday since the revolution began to have been given an anti-American name: “America, your silence is complicit in thousands of our deaths.”

In their recent foreign policy debate, the two presidential candidates dedicated a few minutes to the catastrophe in Syria with vague, hollow statements, from the emotional (“Syrians are going to have to determine their own future” and “What’s taking place in Syria is heartbreaking”) to the responsible (“We have to make sure we arm the right groups”) to the optimistic (“I am confident Assad’s days are numbered”).

The interchangeable phrases were little more than self-centered bickering about who’s taking a “leadership” role in Syria.

But leadership on Syria is nowhere to be found, not in Syria nor in the rest of the world. Instead, the Syrian crisis has been reduced to these cliched statements, by politicians, journalists and pundits, that seem to create some kind of equality between the two sides.

In fact, the gross inequality between the opposition’s actions and the regime’s response has been clear since the beginning: peaceful protests are met with gunfire and mass arrests; guns are met with tanks; cluster bombs target residential areas; barrels of explosives are dropped on innocent civilians; and no place is immune, not places of worship, not archaeological treasures, not national heritage sites.

As the violence increases on both sides – most lately the repeated breaking of the so-called “Eid truce” – the vast majority of war crimes (measured by scale, intensity, and sheer numbers) are being committed by regime forces and by their loyal shabiha gangs.

Even the Syria expert Joshua Landis, who has long criticised the opposition and often toed the Assad line, now says the regime no longer has anything but “senseless destruction” to offer.

Another popular question is “What is going on in Syria? Does anyone really know?”

Some journalists and politicians use this misleading question to complicate the narrative. If we don’t know what’s going on in Syria, how can we possibly stop or prevent certain events?

Landis and others argue about which weapons should be supplied to which group, which sections of society to support, and so on.

Mr Obama boasted in the debate that he had been able to prevent massacres in Libya. But in contrast, the latest US efforts in Syria entail finding out which non-violent activists deserve strictly non-lethal aid. Does anyone imagine that sending satellite phones and cameras at this stage will help the US find out what is “really going on” in Syria?

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November 3rd, 2012, 1:08 am

 

116. Juergen said:

Syrian state television “I greet my mom”

Praises of the “great freedoms in Syria,” mockery of the Western media and victories greetings to Moscow: A day with Assad’s state television.

It is 7 clock, the day of the Syrian state television begins with the national anthem, Koranic verses and propaganda. “Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, it has just reached us following news flash: In the early morning, the Arab-Syrian army has blown up five vehicles near Aleppo. A total of twelve terrorists and lackeys of the West and Israel are killed. Long live the people! “Announced the newscaster.

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2F2012%2F33%2FSyrien-TV-Staatsfernsehen%2Fkomplettansicht

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November 3rd, 2012, 2:16 am

 

117. Johannes de Silentio said:

113. ANNIE

“Syrians have become cynical towards America’s true stance on the Assad regime”

Why? What has the Assad regime ever done for America? Forty years of insults, rudeness and open hostility. Why should anyone be surprised that America turns her back on Syria?

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November 3rd, 2012, 2:40 am

 

118. Syrialover said:

JUERGEN

I don’t know if you saw my post about an article on why people collaborate with dictators (#104 above).

The writer makes an association between the experience of Eastern Europeans under Soviet communism and Arabs under authoritarian regimes. Then explains why “the spell [of fear and propaganda] can suddenly and dramatically be broken.”

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/10/31/the_collaborators_song

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November 3rd, 2012, 4:33 am

 

119. ann said:

Libya, Syria US Policies Aid Jihadists – Nov 03, 2012

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/nightwatch/2012/11/03/libya_syria_policies_aid_jihadists

Syria-US:

US can no longer support the Syrian National Council (SNC) as the “visible leader” of opposition forces. US Secretary of State Clinton and other U.S. officials reportedly are fed up with infighting among the SNC leaders and have become convinced that the group does not represent the interests of all ethnic and religious groups in Syria. Ms. Clinton said there is a need for an official opposition umbrella which rejects “efforts by extremists to hijack the Syrian revolution.

Comment: More than 18 months into a rebellion of sorts, this is an astonishing admission of poor judgment and faulty political intelligence on multiple levels. It seems to have taken a year and a half for the US government to appreciate that the Syrian expatriates have no influence over the fighting in Syria. No fighting groups respond to their direction. No fighting groups depend on their dispensation of American funds.

Spokesmen for various Syrian fighting groups have been denouncing the expatriate politicians and the SNC as venal and out of touch for 18 months, openly and sometimes bitterly. The SNC has experienced repeated desertions by its most capable leaders, who also denounced its feckless venality.

The fighting will not stop in Syria because the SNC gets cut off. Even were the Free Syrian Army, which operates in Syria as one of many fighting groups, to lose its funding and supplies, fighting would continue because the rebellion appears to have been hijacked by the jihadists. They do not rely on the West or the US for support, though they will purloin it if given the opportunity.
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Libya: Update.

On 1 November, about 100 Libyan fighters have circled and occupied the Libyan national assembly to protest the new cabinet lineup.

Comment: Judging from the large number of documents about security in Benghazi that have been leaked or found in Benghazi, the cabinet in Tripoli does not govern Libya beyond parts of Tripoli. The fragmentation of the state actually worsened with the killing of Qadhafi.

If the news and leaked reports may be trusted, Libya has become a political fiction, like Somalia. Cyrenaica, eastern Libya, is an al Qaida base, training location and arms depot for jihadists in SYRIA and MALI.

The rest of Libya is a mélange of competing tribal territories. Libya seems to have devolved as a nation-state – gone backwards.

[…]

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/nightwatch/2012/11/03/libya_syria_policies_aid_jihadists

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November 3rd, 2012, 4:39 am

 

120. ann said:

Syria denies rebels’ control over ancient citadel in Harem – 2012-11-02

• Idlib denied Friday media reports that the armed rebels have taken control over a citadel in Harem.
• Harem has been reportedly surrounded by armed rebels and extremist groups since 11 days ago.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-11/02/c_131947884.htm

DAMASCUS, Nov. 2 (Xinhua) — The governor of Syria’s northwestern province of Idlib denied Friday media reports that the armed rebels have taken control over an ancient citadel in the town of Harem, the state-run SANA news agency said, as activists claimed the Syrian troops had withdrawn from another northern town.

Yaser al-Shuffi rubbished the citadel reports as unfounded, adding that they have come to lift the “devastated morale” of the armed rebels.

Harem has been reportedly surrounded by armed rebels and extremist groups since 11 days ago, reports said.

Meanwhile, Syria’s official SANA new agency quoted an official source as saying that the Khan al-Asal area in Aleppo has been cleared from rebels by the Syrian troops.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-11/02/c_131947884.htm

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November 3rd, 2012, 5:03 am

 

121. ann said:

US Stance on Syria Undermines Geneva Agreements – Russia – 02/11/2012

http://en.rian.ru/politics/20121102/177151374.html

MOSCOW, November 2 (RIA Novosti) – Moscow believes the US position regarding settlement of the Syrian conflict runs counter to the agreements reached in Geneva, the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Friday.

“US representatives say they do not intend to wait for Russia and China to change their positions. So it is explicitly given to understand that Washington sees the Syrian crisis being settled exclusively on its own terms,” ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a statement posted on the ministry’s website.

“At the same time, those representatives say the US will continue efforts to pressure the Syrian government, including through toughening sanctions. Direct instructions are voiced on what the Syrian opposition should do to form ‘a government in exile,’ as well as who should enter such a government,” Lukashevich said.

“By this, opposition figures are in fact encouraged to maintain an uncompromising line aimed at toppling the regime in Damascus,” he said. “We believe this is out of line with the agreements worked out at the June 30 meeting of the Action Group on Syria in Geneva.”

There has been no immediate reaction from the US State Department.

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http://en.rian.ru/politics/20121102/177151374.html

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November 3rd, 2012, 5:14 am

 

122. ann said:

NATO’s Mercenary Terrorists Declared War On The Brave Kurdish People Of Syria!

FSA Terrorists Murder Woman Leader of Kurdish Militia Protecting Kurdish Districts of Aleppo

On November 2, 2012, the Hawks of the Shahba’ (Aleppo) Brigade of the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) has murdered the woman leader of a Kurdish militia aimed at protecting certain districts of Aleppo with large Kurdish populations, such as Ashrafiyeh and Sheikh Maqsud.

Her capture had taken place one week prior to her murder. Shaha Ali Abdu, also known as Nujeen Dirik, headed a Kurdish popular defense unit that is part of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), which opposes the regime of President Bashar al-Assad but has taken a neutral position in ongoing fighting in embattled Aleppo, the country’s commercial hub.

Clashes between FSA terrorists and Kurdish rebels took place in northern Aleppo after the FSA terrorists attacked the Kurdish town of Qastal Jindo on October 29, 2012.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8d0_1351901067

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November 3rd, 2012, 5:39 am

 

123. ann said:

London, Paris, Jerusalem line up for post-US vote action on Syria, Iran – November 3, 2012

The UK , France and Israel showed signs this week of lining up for military action with regard to Syria and Iran as soon as America’s presidential election was out of the way Tuesday, Nov. 6

http://www.debka.com/article/22495/London-Paris-Jerusalem-line-up-for-post-US-vote-action-on-Syria-Iran-

debkafile’s military sources report. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu spent two days (Oct. 31-Nov. 1) talking to President Francois Holland. As the Defense Minister Ehud Barak landed in London the next day, Prime Minister David Cameron was reported on standby for the dispatch of RAF fighter-bombers to the Persian Gulf.

Barak flew to London after US Gen. Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had spent several days in Israel, no doubt tying up the last ends of US-Israeli cooperation for potential action.

Although America’s top military chief can’t tell who will be his next commander-in-chief – Barack Obama for another four years or the Republican Mitt Romney – he is duty-bound to have US forces in the Middle East ready for any contingency.
Although none has admitted as much, all the parties to these consultations did their best this week to chart alternative scenarios applicable to either winner. The consensus was that whether it is Obama or Romney, the two flaming Middle East crises can no longer remain subject to the policy immobility dictated by the presidential campaign – certainly not the Syrian bloodbath.

But the presence of thousands of Iranian and Hizballah combatants fighting for Bashar Assad on the battlefields of Syria oblige Western policy architects to reckon with reactions from Tehran and its Lebanese surrogate, HIzballah, as well as their Palestinian allies in the Gaza Strip.
debkafile’s military and intelligence sources report that all the US, British and French forces that might be needed for military action are already in place in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf, while Israel’s Defense Forces are on standby. They are awaiting orders to go forward after first being told which way to jump – Syria or Iran.
US strength – air, naval and strike ground units – are concentrated on the Red Sea Socotra Island and Oman’s Masirah Island in the Persian Gulf. Since mid-October, Washington has maintained supplementary special operations and anti-air units in Turkey, Jordan and Israel.
Britain and France have massed naval, air and special operations forces in the big naval base of Port Zayed and the Al Dhafra air facility – both in the United Arab Emirates. A French fighter-bomber squadron is also parked at the Tabuk air base in Saudi Arabia.
Military strategists regard the initial phases of the Iran-Israeli confrontation as already being in motion, manifested by an Iranian stealth drone which overflew Israel on Oct. 6 and Israel’s raid on Oct. 24 of the Sudanese factory manufacturing and storing Iranian missiles. They are predicting that such shadow-sparring exercises between Tehran and Jerusalem may evolve next month into more direct clashes between Israel, Iran and Hizballah – more probably isolated incidents related to Iran’s Middle East deployments, especially in Syria and Lebanon, rather than a full-blown eruption of hostilities all at once.
Meanwhile, after both Obama and Romney voiced disapproval of direct US military involvement in Syria, Washington embarked on quiet moves for a diplomatic accomodation.
During a recent round table in Ankara, Admiral James Winnfeld, Vice-Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, announced that Washington would reveal its intentions toward Syria once the 6 November presidential elections were over. But he then announced to his Turkish counterparts that a peace plan had already been negotiated with Moscow for keeping Assad in power and that the UN Security Council would not authorize the creation of buffer zones on which Ankara had pinned its plans for Syria. Instead, Herve Ladsous, the UN Assistant Secretary General for Peacekeeping Operations, announced that he was studying the possible deployment of peacekeepers (“blue helmets”) in Syria.

This new situation comes at the expense of Saudi Arabia, France, Qatar and Turkey – all of whom back the Syrian revolt and demand regime change in Damascus. This anti-Assad coalition is now split between those demanding a compromise solution and those trying to sabotage the process underway between Washington and Moscow.

[…]

http://www.debka.com/article/22495/London-Paris-Jerusalem-line-up-for-post-US-vote-action-on-Syria-Iran-

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November 3rd, 2012, 6:03 am

 

124. ann said:

NATO’s Mercenary Terrorist Cold Blooded Killers – 11/3/2012

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e33_1351909794

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November 3rd, 2012, 6:21 am

 

125. ann said:

Free Islamic Army Liberates Syria from Evil Spirits

Thanks to the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) police, now evil spirits no longer pose a threat in “liberated” Syria.

RETARDED WARNING!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=36b_1351883726

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November 3rd, 2012, 6:27 am

 

126. Syrialover said:

There IS a model and inspiration out there for the dissenting, complaining and fragmented members of the Syrian opposition refusing to have anything to do with the US’s new anything’s-worth-a-try attempt to get some wheels on the road.

They should look at the people inside Syria they are supposed to be building something for.

People who have courageously demonstrated, joined the FSA, sent information to the outside world and risked their lives to provide supplies, medical help and other support to fellow Syrians. And all the decent, stoic people who have sacrificed and suffered terrible losses.

These are people who have put themselves second to the bigger cause, the struggle for a better future for Syria – the only country they have.

Their determination and capacity to trust, face risks and work together should be bottled and given to the members of all the competing opposition factions to drink as a magic tonic to clear their heads.

The message to those opposition figures who feel anything other than their special version won’t work, that they are being disrespected, cheated or usurped by unworthy others, and are fuelled by tunnel vision, resentments and grand expectations is WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.

They are feeling what all politicians in modern political systems have to work through all the time in their democratic party systems. Tough, isn’t it? But it’s obviously worth it and works out OK or those systems would have withered a long time ago.

The fact is there will be winners and losers in every round. But if you are within the right system, and you have something to offer that others want, there will be the opportunity to stay around and have another go.

Other states like Iraq and Egypt and Tunisia are showing the journey to a new system with old people can be hellish hard work with disappointments, uncertainties and failures in the script. Especially if the people who grab a seat at the new table come with an inappropriate mindset, lack integrity, and systemically distrust and disrespect and set out to cheat and displace others.

MEGAPHONE MESSAGE to the Syrian opposition: there is no plan B or C at this moment, and may never be. But right now there’s a well-supported train pulling out of the station. And if you’re not on board, or if you are, take a deep breath, be grown up and resist putting spokes in the wheels and blowing up the tracks. FOR SYRIA’S SAKE.

Live with what’s being tried, or you die with the alternative and so does Syria.

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November 3rd, 2012, 7:58 am

 

127. Dolly said:

So, have you asked yourself why the dictatorships in China and Russia are standing with the Baath regime?

Obviously these kinds of countries (Venezuela, Belarus, Sudan, Russia) have nothing else in common – except that they are totalitarian states and hate liberty.

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November 3rd, 2012, 8:57 am

 

128. annie said:

Syria – The Local Coordination
Committees Issue a “Code of Conduct” for Free Syrian Army.

Article II

I pledge to my people and my
revolution that I will refrain from any behavior or practice that would
undermine the principles of our revolution: the principles of freedom,
citizenship, and dignity. I will respect human rights in accordance with our
legal principles, our tolerant religious
principles, and the international laws governing human
rights – the very human rights for which we struggle today and which we intend
to implement in the future Syria.

Article III

Any person who takes up arms
in the name of the regime, regardless of their rank, should be arrested and
remain in the custody of the Free Syrian Army. In the event that an individual
is arrested, and it is determined that the individual was working for the
regime, voluntarily or for payment, to supply information about revolutionary
activists, that individual shall be considered a prisoner and treated in
accordance with laws governing prisoners of war.

Article IV

I pledge not to practice any
form of torture, rape, mutilation, or degradation. I will preserve prisoners’
rights and will not exercise any of the above practices in order to obtain
confessions.

Article V

I will not issue any executive
orders, particularly with regard to death or corporal punishment. Only an
appropriate legal authority, with relevant expertise, may conduct trials and
find perpetrators guilty.

Article VI

I will not engage in any
practice that leads to the physical torture or murder of prisoners or
informants, and I will not participate in any public execution.

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November 3rd, 2012, 11:09 am

 

129. Citizen said:

No matter who wins Tuesday’s election, U.S. likely to become entangled in Syria’s war
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/11/01/173373/no-matter-who-wins-tuesdays-election.html

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November 3rd, 2012, 12:05 pm

 

130. Citizen said:

US Dumps Syrian National Council (SNC), Focus Exclusively on Arming “Al Qaeda in Syria”

US dumps Syrian proxy political front in latest move to accelerate long-stalled regime change.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-dumps-syrian-national-council-snc-focus-exclusively-on-arming-al-qaeda-in-syria/5310267

( regime change ) U.S. dirty habit – must become a systematic practice by China and Russia as is a global practice and principle !

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November 3rd, 2012, 12:15 pm

 

131. Ghufran said:

تناقلت صفحات المعارضة على الفيس بوك نبأ اختطاف   تصفية الممثل محمد رافع ابن الفنان أحمد رافع، حيث تبنت ” كتيبة أحفاد الصديق” العملية.
وقال الفنان أحمد رافع لتلفزيون الخبر أن الاتصال فقد بابنه منذ نحو ست ساعات، قبل أن تتصل به فتاة وتخبره ان ابنه مخطوف، وذلك قبل شيوع نبأ اغتياله.
ولم يؤكد الفنان “رافع” نبأ اغتيال ابنه، موضحاً ان التحقيقات لاتزال جارية حتى الآن.
يشار إلى ان الممثل محمد رافع ظهر خلال الفترة الماضية في عدة مناسبات أعلن من خلالها مواقفه المؤيدة للنظام في سوريا، وهو من مواليد عام 1982، وشارك في عدد من المسلسلات السورية أبرزها مسلسل ” باب الحارة الذي لعب فيه شخصية ابراهيم.

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November 3rd, 2012, 1:49 pm

 

132. 5 dancing shlomos said:

the new syrian govt in exile being formed by zionists is a terrorist group and will not govern anything.

the syrian govt is in damascus and will remain.

the terrorists will go down with clinton and zionized amurderka.

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November 3rd, 2012, 2:43 pm

 

133. ann said:

Will Damascus Survive Washington’s Latest Attempt to Impose a Puppet Government on Syria? – November 03, 2012

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton says Washington needs “an opposition that will be on record strongly resisting the efforts by extremists to hijack the Syrian revolution,” (1) but fails to add that it must also be open to the United States doing the same

http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-damascus-survive-washingtons-latest-attempt-to-impose-a-puppet-government-on-syria/5310466

For weeks now, Robert Ford, the former US ambassador to Syria, has been putting together a plan to anoint a new US-approved government-in-the-wings. The initiative is known as the “Riad Seif plan” (7) named after a wealthy Damascus businessman and former Syrian parliamentarian who has long played an active role in the opposition to the Asad government. Acceptable to Washington owing to his businessman politics (as against the Ba’athist’s ideological commitment to state domination of the economy, marginalization of the private sector, and controls on foreign investment (8)), Seif has been endorsed by Washington to lead a post-Ba’athist government. It is hoped that his opposition credentials—he was jailed by the Syrian government for his activities—will put him in good stead with the rebels on the ground.

The plan calls for the creation of a “proto-parliament” comprising 50 members, 20 from the internal opposition, 15 from the SNC (i.e., the exile opposition), and 15 from various other Syrian opposition organizations. An executive body made up of 8 to 10 members—who have been endorsed by the US State department (9) — will work directly with the United States and its allies. (10) Washington and its subordinates, the Arab League and misnamed Friends of Syria, both democracy-hating clubs of plutocracies and oil monarchies, will attempt to make the body acceptable to Syrians by recognizing it as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people.

There’s no guarantee the plan will work. One of its goals is to marginalize the influence of the Jihadists, many though not all of whom have spilled into Syria from other countries, bent on overturning a secular regime led by a president whose Alawi faith they revile as heretical. If the Jihadists can be sidelined, Washington may be able to funnel arms to “acceptable” militant groups, without fear of their being used later against US targets. But there’s a question mark hanging over Seif’s appeal to religiously-inspired militants, especially when the hands of the marionette-master, the US State Department, are so visible. The same goes for the new council’s appeal to the anti-imperialist secular opposition, who “are against any new political entity that becomes subject to the agendas of foreign countries.” (11) And there’s no mistaking that the new ‘Made-in-the-USA’ council will be subject to the political agenda of the United States.

We needn’t tarry long on debunking the naive belief that Washington’s intervention in Syrian affairs has the slightest connection to promoting democracy. If democracy promotion motivated US foreign policy, absolutist monarchies with execrable records of human rights abridgements and violent repression of popular uprisings against their dictatorial rule would not make up the bulk of the United States’ Arab allies. The last thing the wealthy investors, bankers and corporate heavyweights who make up the US ruling class want is democracy, either at home or aboard. They want its polar opposite—plutocracy, rule by people of wealth in the interests of piling up more wealth through the exploitation of the labor of other people and the land, resources and markets of other countries.

When Saudi Arabia sent tanks and troops into Bahrain on March 14, 2011 to crush a local eruption of the Arab Spring, the United States did nothing to disturb their democracy-abominating ally’s assault on the popular uprising, except issue a meaningless call for “political dialogue.” As the New York Times explained,

The reasons for Mr. Obama’s reticence were clear: Bahrain sits off the Saudi coast, and the Saudis were never going to allow a sudden flowering of democracy next door…In addition, the United States maintains a naval base in Bahrain…crucial for maintaining the flow of oil from the region. “We realized that the possibility of anything happening in Saudi Arabia was one that couldn’t become a reality,” said William M. Daley, President Obama’s chief of staff at the time. “For the global economy, this couldn’t happen.” (12)

Considering that William Daley is an investment banker from a politically well-connected family; that “maintaining the flow of oil” means “maintaining the flow of oil revenues to US oil giants”; and that “the global economy” means “investors’ returns,” it’s clear why the plutocracy condoned their ally’s repression of the Bahrain uprising. Under plutocratic rule, steps toward democracy—even baby ones—are not allowed to get in the way of profits.

Nor need we tarry on the naive belief that a government that has been handpicked by Washington—the US State Department has “recommended names and organizations that ….should be included in any leadership structure,” disclosed Clinton (13)—will represent Syrian interests against those of its sponsor. US interests in Syria have no intrinsic relationship to protecting Israel, which—with its formidable military, yearly $3 billion dollop of US military aid, and an arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons—hardly needs further assistance defending itself against Iran, Hezbollah or Hamas, none of which are significant threats to Israel anyway but are threatened by it. Weakening Iran, Syria’s ally, may be one of Washington’s objectives in trying to orchestrate Asad’s ouster, but not because Iran may acquire nuclear power status and therefore threaten Israel (which it could hardly do anyway considering that it’s severely outclassed militarily (14)), but because, like Syria, it zealously safeguards its economic territory from the US plutocracy’s designs, allowing the state to dominate its economy and protect its domestic enterprises, land and resources from outside domination. The real reason the US plutocracy wants to topple the Syrian and Iranian governments is because they’re bad for the plutocracy’s business interests. Democracy, existential threats to Israel, and nuclear non-proliferation, have nothing to do with it.

The Syrian government is no stranger to formidable challenges. It has waged a longstanding war with Islamists who have rejected the Ba’athist’s secular orientation from the start. Its war with the ethnic-cleansing settler regime in Tel Aviv oscillates between hot and cold. The United States has waged economic warfare against Syria for years, and has connived at overthrowing its government before. Still, Damascus is in a particularly bad spot now. The world’s strongest plutocracies have escalated their hostility. Jihadist terrorists from abroad—to say nothing of home-grown ones—are doing their best to upset Ba’athist rule. But the support of the Syrian military and a substantial part of the Syrian population, plus assistance from Russia and Iran, have allowed it to hang on.

In the face of imperialist and Islamist opposition, its future looks grim, but governments have faced bleaker prospects before and survived, some even going on to thrive.

[…]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-damascus-survive-washingtons-latest-attempt-to-impose-a-puppet-government-on-syria/5310466

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November 3rd, 2012, 3:10 pm

 

134. ann said:

Will Damascus Survive Washington’s Latest Attempt to Impose a Puppet Government on Syria? – November 03, 2012

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton says Washington needs “an opposition that will be on record strongly resisting the efforts by extremists to hijack the Syrian revolution,” (1) but fails to add that it must also be open to the United States doing the same

http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-damascus-survive-washingtons-latest-attempt-to-impose-a-puppet-government-on-syria/5310466

For weeks now, Robert Ford, the former US ambassador to Syria, has been putting together a plan to anoint a new US-approved government-in-the-wings. The initiative is known as the “Riad Seif plan” (7) named after a wealthy Damascus businessman and former Syrian parliamentarian who has long played an active role in the opposition to the Asad government. Acceptable to Washington owing to his businessman politics (as against the Ba’athist’s ideological commitment to state domination of the economy, marginalization of the private sector, and controls on foreign investment (8)), Seif has been endorsed by Washington to lead a post-Ba’athist government. It is hoped that his opposition credentials—he was jailed by the Syrian government for his activities—will put him in good stead with the rebels on the ground.

The plan calls for the creation of a “proto-parliament” comprising 50 puppets, 20 from the internal opposition, 15 from the SNC (i.e., the exile opposition), and 15 from various other Syrian opposition organizations. An executive body made up of 8 to 10 members—who have been endorsed by the US State department (9) — will work directly with the United States and its allies. (10) Washington and its subordinates, the Arab League and misnamed “Friends of Syria”, both democracy-hating clubs of plutocracies and oil monarchies, will attempt to make the body acceptable to Syrians by recognizing it as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people.

[…]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-damascus-survive-washingtons-latest-attempt-to-impose-a-puppet-government-on-syria/5310466

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November 3rd, 2012, 3:18 pm

 

135. Ghufran said:

أوقفت أجهزة الامن السورية الكاتب السوري ضاهر عيطة في دمشق، بحسب ما افاد اصدقاء له لوكالة “فرانس برس” اليوم السبت.
وتمت عملية التوقيف الخميس، ولم تعرف اسباب توقيف هذا الكاتب البالغ من العمر 46 عاما والمقعد والمعروف بمواقفه المنتقدة للنظام.
This is why Syria is doomed, Syrisns have to choose between two parties that can not be trusted.

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November 3rd, 2012, 4:57 pm

 

136. Ghufran said:

Nothing good can come out of anything that has a Qatari flavor,back to square one:
أكد المكتب التنفيذي لهيئة التنسيق الوطنية لقوى التغيير الديمقراطي في سوريا ان بعض أحزاب الهيئة وشخصياتها المنضوية في الهيئة ، تلقت دعوة لحضور مؤتمر موسع للمعارضة السورية يعقد في الدوحة في 8 / 11 / 2012.
وتابع المكتب في بيان نشرته على موقعها الالكتروني أن هذه الدعوة ينقصها التحضير الجيد والمشاركة المسبقة في الإعداد ، إضافة لإشارات توحي أن هذه الدعوة لا تعبر عن إرادة السوريين المستقلة ، لذلك وعلى ضوء ما تقدم نرى إن هذا المؤتمر المزمع عقده لن يكون خطوة بناءة في عملية توحيد المعارضة بقدر ما سيكون سببا لزيادة الفرقة والتشرذم .
وتابع البيان:”وبناء عليه فقد قرر المكتب التنفيذي عدم مشاركة الأحزاب والشخصيات المنضوية في الهيئة بهذا المؤتمر”.

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November 3rd, 2012, 6:31 pm

 
 

138. Ghufran said:

From the comment section in aksalser ( anti regime website that was more regime friendly until Aleppo was invaded by the rebels):
هل يوجد خبير في الشؤون السورية يخبرنا متى سوف ننتهي من حمام الدم وتوقف خراب البلاد ؟ متى يتوقع ان يتمكن الجيش ال..ر من الانتهاء من تحرير سوريا يعني كم يلزمه 10 سنوات اضافة الى 10 مليون مقاتل من خارج سورية؟ ام ان الجيش الح..ر يريد اطالة الحرب اطول فتره ممكنة حتى يتمكن من نهب ما تبقى والحصول على الاموال من دول الخليج لانه يخشى ان تم الحسم سوف يتم رميه كما تم رمي المجلس الوطني.
لعن الله كل من تسبب بقتل وتشريدالناس والذي تسبب في خراب البلد بالفعل او بالقول اتقوا الله فينا قبل ان يأخذكم الله أخذ عزيز مقتدر.

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November 3rd, 2012, 8:09 pm

 

139. erin said:

test it seems it is still the usual here except the many of the wise people left this site, since it become a propaganda site, similar to facebook.

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November 3rd, 2012, 8:22 pm

 

140. Ghufran said:

Turkey is not doing itself or the opposition a favor by recruiting the islamists and the FSA in a war against Kurds:
تقول أوساط قيادية كردية قريبة من حزب العمال الكردستاني أن تركيا طرحت منذ شهرين تقريباً خطة من أربعة بنود على أكراد سوريا وتركيا عبر مسعود البرزاني وتقضي بنود الخطة بقبول تركيا بمنطقة حكم ذاتي كردية في سوريا على غرار المنطقة الكردية في العراق ولكن على أساس الشروط التالية:
1 – قبول الأكراد بقاعدة عسكرية تركية في عين عرب (كوبين) باللغة الكردية وهي تقع قرب عفرين
2 – قبول الأكراد بقاعدة عسكرية تركية في القامشلي
3 – قبول الأكراد بقاعدة عسكرية تركية ثالثة في عفرين
4 – يقيم الإقليم الكردي في سوريا علاقات تجارية وسياسية مع تركيا على غرار علاقات مسعود البرزاني مع أنقرة.
The Kurds, for the most part, refused to allow Turkey any presence in their areas, now Turkey and its armed pimps want to force a new situation, Ifrin is the next battle between the two sides after Kurds ,for now, managed to expel intruders in Qastal and Ashrafiyyeh.
For all practical reasons, Kurds in Syria will now have to abandon their neutral stand in the war in Syria.

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November 3rd, 2012, 9:52 pm

 

141. habib said:

Lol at this American National Council. Not exactly what the opposition needs, even more direct foreign control.

Furthermore, it has the potential to divide them even further than they are already. Many will of course refuse to join this ANC, and we will have multiple, useless “national councils” with no power on the ground.

Incredible.

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November 3rd, 2012, 10:51 pm

 

142. Sami said:

PYD was never and will never be the sole representative of the Kurdish population (How can they be really when they kill and kidnap Kurdish activists on behalf of the Assadi regime all the time?)

PYD حلقة جديدة من مسلسل “سنخطفك يا ناشط”..الضحية اتحاد تنسيقيات شباب الكرد ..المتهم

قامشلو(سوريا)- الكردية نيوز

أعلن اتحاد تنسيقيات شباب الكورد في سوريا قيام عناصر مسلحة من وحدات الحماية الشعب التابعة لحزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي اختطاف ناشطين اثنين من الاتحاد يوم الجمعة 02\11\2012

وقال الإتحاد في بيان أرسلت نسخة منه إلى موقع “الكردية نيوز” الإخباري إنه “تم اقتحام منزل أحد أعضاءنا الكائن في حي العنترية من قبل المسلحين التابعية للحزب المذكور وتم اختطاف كل من محمود أبو آزاد و عبدالباقي أبو دلو وهما عضوان في اتحاد تنسيقيات شباب الكورد في سوريا”.

وطالب الإتحاد ا”لهيئة العليا الكوردية والمجلسين الوطني الكوردي وغرب كردستان بالكشف عن مصيرهما حفاظاً على سلامتهم وحياتهم والكف عن هذه الممارسات التي لا تخدم قضية الشعب الكوردي في كردستان سوريا”.

إلى ذلك قال ممثل اتحاد تنسيقيات شباب الكورد في سوريا ابراهيم اليوسف في المجلس الوطني السوري على صفحته في موقع فيسبوك مخاطبا معتقلي اللناشطين الإثنين “لاتزالون حتى الآن، في موقع” ممارسة السياسة الخاطئة” وحين تريدون تجاوزها، فإنكم لتعالجون “الخطأ بالخطأ”.

وطالبهم “عليكم أن تكفوا فوراً عن الاستقواء على شعبكم بالبندقية والخطف والعنف،في إطارخطة استحواذ الشارع و وفرض الاستفراد المقيت-صنوالاستبداد وابنه المدلل- الاستفراد الذي ولى زمانه، مع تتالي سقوط الطغاة، واحداً بعد الآخر، ولن تكون للمنطقة كلها أية عودة إليه، وهوما تمارسونه-علناً- في ظلّ خطّ متواصل من السياسات الملتبسة”

وتابع “فلا تتوقعوا صمتنا تشجيعاً لكم في كل ذلك، وإنما هومحاولة لمنحكم فرص التراجع عماتقعون فيه من الأخطاء، واحداً بعد الآخر، وحرصاً منا على صورة شعبنا الكردي، أمام الرأي العام، بل وغيرةً، على صورة شبابنا الكردي الذي سبقنا جميعاً في الانخراط في الثورة، وها نقتفي خطاه”.

http://alkurdiyanews.net/حلقة-جديدة-من-مسلسل-سنخطفك-يا-ناشطالضحية-اتحاد-تنسيقيات-شباب-الكرد-المتهم-PYD

And a little tribute for the late Mishaal Temmo a true Syrian Kurd that stood for the very meaning of what this revolution stands for (and who was gunned down by the very same group pretending to “protect” the Kurds):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4D5Np2saX4&feature=youtu.be

This is what his son had to say about the PYD most recently on his Twitter handle:

من مسرحيات حزب العمال الكوردستاني الاخيرة لكسب شرعية الشعب الكوردي في سوريا كذبة اغتيال القيادية في حزب ال ب ي د نوجين ديريك

حزب العمال الكردستاني او حزب الب ي د يظن انه بمسرحياته الكاذبة في حلب الاشرفية استطاع ان يقنع الاكراد انه هو الوحيد من يدافع عن الشعب الكردي

ياحزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي يجب ان تعو ان زمان استغلال عاطفة الشعب بمسرحيات كاذبة قد انتهى ولم يعد احد يصدق اكاذيبكم

صحيح هناك ممارسات خاطئة للجيش الحر وهي متوقعة لان مقاتلي الجيش الحر ليسوا عسكريين متدربين وأهم شئ هم مثل كل سوري متأثرين بممارسات البعث

https://twitter.com/fideltemo/status/264768101701263360

So is it really fair to say the PYD is neutral, when in fact they have all along been undermining the Local Kurdish Youth Commission (which is closely associated with the LCC) by killing and abducting peaceful members of the revolution?

The PYD is “protecting” the Kurds as much as the Shabiha are protecting the Alawis in Syria…

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November 3rd, 2012, 11:12 pm

 

143. Syrialover said:

New post by Joshua Landis – about trouble between the Kurds and FSA

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November 3rd, 2012, 11:21 pm

 

144. SANDRO LOEWE said:

LOLLY HABIB Are you still waiting for the stupid president to crush the insurgency.

LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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November 4th, 2012, 12:40 pm

 

145. habib said:

139. SANDRO LOEWE

ETA and IRA are still around, aren’t they? The FSA will be irrelevant in some years. Perhaps many, but still irrelevant.

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November 5th, 2012, 7:51 pm

 

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