Ambassadors, Kerry, Levey, Sanctions, and Peace

Fredric C. Hof‘s name was floated in a Kuwaiti paper as the next ambassador to Damascus. Sami Moubayed picked up the story, but soon published a denial from Hof, who explained that he had not been offered the job. Hof wrote,

“To paraphrase Mark Twain, rumours of my impending appointment are greatly exaggerated. Indeed, they are false. I have maintained a lifelong habit of not accepting jobs I’ve not been offered, and this one will be no exception.

When I was an American Field Service exchange student in Damascus in 1964 I promised my Syrian friends I’d someday return as Ambassador. Some of them will be disappointed to learn that your report has no basis in fact. Others will be relieved.”

The last sentence of Hof’s denial highlights the struggle now being waged in the halls of the State Department and White House over the selection of the next ambassador to Syria. His name was probably leaked to the notorious Kuwaiti “source” in order to “burn” Hof’s candidacy, as one Syrian official suggested to me. Read this article by Aimee Kligman in the “New York Foreign Policy Examiner” to see how threatening the Hof selection is to some. Not only does Hof speak Arabic, but he lived for almost a year near Shahbandar square in the Mazraa section of Damascus and enjoyed it. He has spent a lifetime studying the Syrian-Israeli conflict and Lebanon – Israel border problems. He knows the technical aspects of the Golan problem better than anyone and has written brilliantly on it. Worse yet, he speaks to Arab organizations.

But read his speech: “FROM MITCHELL TO ANNAPOLIS AND BEYOND: THOUGHTS ON THE AMERICAN ROLE IN PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI PEACEMAKING,” given at the The Palestine Center of the Jerusalem Fund March 20, 2008 to understand why alarm bells went off in certain quarters when his name was leaked as a contender for such a sensitive and important post when Obama claimedmhe would work for peace from day one.

Hof is close to Mitchell and acted as the expert on and author of the Mitchell Committee of 2000-2001, which was mandated to recommend ways in which the US could put out the flames of Intifada II. Hof explains:

The … Mitchell Committee [taught me] that effective American facilitation and mediation are absolutely essential. I came away from the experience firmly believing that the parties are incapable of making serious progress absent a central role for the US. I think I also learned that such a role would require intensive, on-the-ground, back-breaking labor. Moreover, without the personal, periodic intervention of the President of the United States, it makes no difference how hard people work or how brilliant the strategy might be.

This is just what many influential Israelis did not want to hear. Vice President Cheney’s office was hostile to the report from its inception, Hof explains. Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs Shimon Peres wrote to protest the report’s equation of continued Israeli settlement activity with Palestinian violence as provocations that undermined the peace process. Peres explained:

“Being one of the core issues to be dealt with in the future permanent status negotiations, settlements must not be prejudged as a reason for the outbreak of Palestinian violence.”

According to Elliot Abrams in an interview today in the Jerusalem Post.

When we came in, in 2001, the intifada was going on. It seemed to us pretty clear – and we were right – that there could be no negotiations in the middle of a giant, ongoing terrorist attack….


We took the view that negotiations had to take place between Israelis and Palestinians – that the American role should not be to invent solutions, or to pressure Israel or the Palestinians into a particular compromise, but rather that we should all get behind an Israeli-Palestinian effort. And at that point, there was an Israeli-Palestinian effort.

Secretary of State Powell distanced himself from the report by insisting that the US “cannot impose solutions on them. The decisions are theirs to make.” As we all know, and Hof makes clear, without direct and firm US leadership there will be no two-state solution.

The new Israeli elections underscore the intelligence of Hof’s warning. If Livni creates a government, it will be too weak to stop settlements and if Netanyahu does, it will be ideologically opposed to stopping them. Ambassador Edward Walker notes that Bibi is a realist and “recently refused to sign a loyalty oath that ruled out a Palestinian State.” But it must be noted that the Likud Party, of which Netanyahu is the leader, states unequivocally that “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”  The Israeli government objects to  Hamas’ refusal to recognize a Jewish state in Palestine, but oddly finds nothing wrong with denying the existence of a Palestinian state. Netanyahu also declared during the last days before the elections that he would not give up the strategic Golan Heights for peace with Syria.

If Mitchel is unable to name an ambassador to Syria that he respects, he will have a difficult time doing the hard work of building trust and pushing peace forward. I do not know whether Hof ever was or remains a candidate for the ambassadorship in Damascus, but I hope for the sake of honesty, US interests, and peace that he does.

A congressional delegation including John Kerry, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Howard Berman, chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee and Senator Benjamin L. Cardin, chairman of the Terrorism and Homeland Security Subcommittee, is on its way to Syria. The Lebanese are telling them to hold Damascus’ feet to the fire on sovereignty issues. But it seems that John Kerry is eager to get relations with Syria on a proper footing that may lead to advances in Obama’s Middle East agenda.  As he said:

“I will be having some frank discussions about where our relations are and where they ought to be,” Kerry said, adding that he will press the Obama administration to send a US ambassador.

But Kerry said reappointing a US ambassador to Syria would not be “a punishment or a reward.” “It helps you communicate so that you are not guessing. It seems to me that it is very self-defeating not to do it.”

The Syrians have been told that there will be a US ambassador by the end of the month. We will see. Kerry took the initiative to go to Syria to meet Asad, perhaps he is lending his shoulder to the effort to pave the way for renewed diplomatic relations between the two countries? His visit seems to indicate that a regime of confidence building measures can be established and that Obama has not forgotten his promises in the midst of the economic crisis.

The US is interested in constraining Hizbullah and ensuring that Lebanese elections go off without foreign interference.  Syria has yet to name its ambassador to Lebanon, just as the US has yet to name its ambassador to Syria. At the same time, Washington cannot look on Syria as a punching bag or pin cushion, as Bush did. If Obama is going to make any progress on peace in the region, Damascus has to be treated as a partner. This is particularly true as Palestinian arena seems even more hopeless following Israel’s elections. The weakness and division within both the Palestinian and Israeli leadership is profound.

Very right wing Israel supporters were infuriated by the release of Boeing spare parts to Syrian Airlines. They insist that it prefigures the dismantling of sanctions against Syria. Maybe they are right to be concerned?

Obama’s people immediately responded by insisting that sanctions remain firm. The release of parts is a one off thing supported by the need for safety. All the same, it is good business as well as being an important first step in developing confidence building measures for the eventual lifting of sanctions and peace.

Deputy Prime Minister Abdullah Dardari is arguing that lifting sanctions should be a vital part of Syria’s reengaging with Washington. Syria needs foreign investment badly in order to prosper. See my last post with Ehsani on SC. It will be hard for the US to engage without lifting sanctions. Syrians will not believe Washington is motivated by anything but meanness so long as it is trying to starve Syrians and keep their country backwards.

In this regard, Stuart Levey, the central figure in imposing sanctions on Syria  was recently reappointed to his post as head of the secretive Office of Terrorist and Financial Intelligence in the Treasury Department. Levey is entirely a political creature, so this is not necessarily bad for Syria, although he is a loyal republican who began working for government after helping with Bush’s electoral recount in Florida.  Martin Peretz, the New Republic’s editor in chief, was Levey’s Harvard thesis adviser. Levey’s loyalty to President Bush forced him to go back on his word at least once. The Syrians bent over backward in 2004 to prove to Levey that the Commercial Bank of Syria was not laundering money, as it was accused of doing.  Imad Moustapha and the then newly appointed head of the Commercial Bank, which serves as Syria’s central bank, bent over backwards to cooperate with the US. They invited a team of over a dozen US officials to spend close to a month in Damascus scrutinizing the records of the Commerce Bank, which at the time were still recorded in over-sized ledger books, just as was first done when the bank was established by Khalid al-Azm in the 1950s.

To make a long and extraordinary story short, Levey’s team came home without finding any evidence of money laundering at the Commerce Bank. US lawyers were even allowed by Syria to write a new set of bylaws for the bank to specifically prohibit the sort of transactions the American officials were concerned about. Syria spared no effort to indulge the Americans and demonstrate its good will in cooperating. Finance Minister Hussein came to Washington at the end of the precess to get confirmation from Levey that his office was satisfied with Syria’s cooperation. Levey assured him that he was happy with Syria’s cooperation. Hussein insisted that if Levey or others ever had any further questions, they should call him directly. But only a short time later, Stuart Levey appeared in front of Carl Levin in congress, who asked him about Syria’s cooperation with his department. Levey testified that Syria had not cooperated and that the bank would be sanctioned as a “primary money laundering concern.” The next day Levey explained to Syrian officials, “You cannot expect me to say anything nice about your country in congress when my president says that Syria is a terrorist supporting country?” The following is Levey’s official language:

in [May of 2004], we issued a proposed rule, designating the Commercial Bank of Syria (CBS) as a “primary money laundering concern,” pursuant to Section 311 of the USA PATRIOT Act. The designation was premised on concerns about financial wrongdoing at that bank, including terrorist financing. In connection with the proposed rule, we presented a series of demands to Syrian authorities, ranging from reform of their banking sector to immediate, effective action to cut off the flow of funds across the Syrian border to the Iraqi insurgency.

We will continue to use the tools available to us to press Syria to take concrete actions to address our concerns.

This event taught the Syrians that the Bush administration was hopeless and that there was little benefit in cooperating with it. Syria made further attempts to reestablish proper relations with the Bush White House, and in particular with the Powell led State Department, but to no avail. It increasingly became clear that Powell was being cut out of the loop in Washington and that the US government was going to go after Syria, no mater what Damascus did. Syria forced through the extension of Lebanon’s presidential term several months later and relations between Syria and the US went from bad to worse.

A small aside, Al-Akhbar and other Arab newspapers wrote yesterday that Syria Comment published Hof’s retraction. this was not true.

The Hariri tribunal remains a cloud on the horizon.

Here is how Grant Smith describes Stuart Levey’s office:

Will Obama Break the Law for Israel’s Sake?
by Grant F. Smith in

George W. Bush responded to Israel lobby pressure to target Iran by creating a new U.S. Treasury Department unit by executive order in 2004. The secretive Office of Terrorist and Financial Intelligence (TFI) delivers most of its public briefings at an AIPAC-sponsored think-tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and even contracts the think-tankers for “consulting.” Like other agencies during the Bush presidency, TFI denied FOIA requests [.pdf] for detailed information about its activities, but it is known to be targeting commercial shippers, international banks, and companies that do business with Iran. Clearly, if this quiet commercial and financial blockade were being waged by some powerful foreign entity against the United States, Americans would consider it a casus belli. But rather than slow or shut the operation down in preparation for promised attempts at U.S.-Iran diplomacy, Obama’s new Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner recently announced that Stuart Levey will continue to lead this financial blockade unit at Treasury. This particular clandestine operations component of Obama’s Middle East policy may soon spark a senseless military conflict with Iran, but perhaps that’s the plan. Obama’s policy, if honestly verbalized, may be the following: As your president, I will continue to deceive you about Israeli nuclear weapons, so that my administration can violate the Symington Amendment and deliver unwarranted amounts of taxpayer dollars to Israel. My administration will negotiate in bad faith with Iran while clandestinely attacking it, in order to preserve Israeli nuclear hegemony in the Middle East.

Treasury’s Levey Says He’ll Stay in Anti-Terror Post
By Alison Fitzgerald

Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) — Stuart Levey, the U.S. Treasury Department official in charge of disrupting terrorist finances, said he has agreed to remain in the job under the department’s new secretary, Timothy Geithner.

Levey, 45, said in an interview that he announced his decision to his staff two days ago after discussions with Geithner and President Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel. He was appointed to the newly created post of undersecretary of the Treasury for terrorism and financial intelligence in 2004 by President George W. Bush….

The Treasury division that Levey oversees is a combination of the agency’s executive office of terrorist financing and foreign crimes, the financial crimes enforcement network and the office of foreign assets control. Officials there work to enforce economic sanctions. As undersecretary, Levey aided in the Bush administration’s efforts to flag companies to the financial risks of doing business with Iran, part of measures aimed at pressuring the country to give up its suspected nuclear-arms program….

ICG Report on ‘how to engage Damascus’ (Thanks to FLC for the summary)

“…Set in place effective channels of communication, by:

  • nominating an ambassador;
  • requesting that Syria treat U.S. diplomats respectfully and doing likewise with Syrian diplomats posted in the U.S.;
  • establishing a privileged, personal and direct channel between President Obama and President Assad, possible through Middle East Peace Envoy George Mitchell; and
  • conducting a relatively early visit by a high-level U.S. military official in order to establish U.S.- Syrian-Iraqi security cooperation…..

The Bush administration employed three principal tools to alter Syrian behaviour: economic sanctions; multilateral political pressure; and democracy promotion. Some successes notwithstanding, it is difficult to deny that the policy has failed….

Whether March 14’s sense of U.S. disloyalty was justified or not, officials in Washington conceded that events had dealt a severe blow to their allies’ confidence. One went so far as to analogise the situation to the U.S. encouragement of the Hungarian uprising in 1956 or the 1991 betrayal of Iraqi Kurds. There is little dispute that U.S. inaction contributed to March 14’s acceptance of the 21 May 2008 Qatari-brokered Doha accord, which yielded to core opposition demands. In the words of another U.S. official: The backdrop to Doha was that March 14 felt abandoned and had to accept the deal once Hizbollah won. The U.S. was consulted by the Qataris, who constantly asked if the deal was acceptable to us; Rice said it was. Hardliners within the administration held another view, and this is reflected in the very different tones adopted by the State Department and National Security Council in their public statements. State was relaxed, the NSC less so.

Since then, U.S. options in Lebanon have further narrowed. There is no realistic option of confronting Hizbollah, at least in the foreseeable future. Extending support to March 14 remains official policy, but the coalition’s ability to deliver on its earlier promises is in growing doubt. “March 14 is disoriented. Engagement with Syria is taking place and being condoned by the Lebanese government. Even those policy options could become far more complicated should the current opposition prevail in the June 2009 parliamentary elections. While that likely would lead to a new national unity government in which March 14 holds an important number of ministries, including possibly the prime minister – a post traditionally reserved for a Sunni – Washington inevitably would find it more complicated to deal with. Military assistance programs could well come to a halt and institution-building efforts be in jeopardy if Hizbollah were involved, given U.S. legal constraints. Perhaps most significantly, an opposition victory by any margin would strike a psychological and political blow to the March 14 coalition. …….

…..isolation proved short-lived. The first serious cracks were prompted by the 2006 war in Lebanon; more than one Western country concluded that engaging Syria was essential to prevent a far more dangerous escalation.

Prominent Americans, Europeans and Israelis argued strongly for a policy change,123 while European diplomats began visiting Syria at the height of the fighting. In October, the European Parliament called for dialogue, and the UN Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process urged talking to “all parties” involved in the Israeli-Arab conflict. Later that month, UK Prime Minister Tony Blair sent his top advisor, Nigel Sheinwald, to Damascus. Annoying to the Bush administration without being particularly gratifying to the Syrian regime, this ad hoc, uncoordinated European approach yielded little…….. cracks soon were felt within Washington itself. In December 2006, a prominent bipartisan committee headed by former Secretary of State James Baker and former Congressman Lee Hamilton released the Iraq Study Group Report. Among its key recommendations was the need to talk to all of Iraq’s neighbours, Syria and Iran included. ….

The challenge is not merely to close the Bush chapter but to invent a new one.

Bush leaves behind a legacy of additional sanctions and international resolutions that will be impossible to ignore and difficult to undo. Obama cannot simply erase the sanctions, nor will he wish to as they have become an important source of pressure and leverage. For the U.S., the challenge will be to relax them gradually and judiciously, particularly in response to Syrian steps; for Syria, it will be to understand that they cannot be eliminated by an early stroke of a pen and that the country will have to live with these additional constraints for some time to come.

U.S. attitudes have hardened, and official scepticism will outlast the transition. For many in the U.S., including in the new administration, Syria today is associated with actions that led to American casualties in Iraq and to death in Lebanon. That will be hard to erase. A former U.S. official put it as follows: “Syria is a puzzle for the U.S. It remains little known. What is known of it, above all, is its alliance with Iran and the crossborder issue. Syria last was in the news positively, so to speak, eight years ago [when U.S.-mediated peace talks were still ongoing]”. Moreover, the lesson appears to have been learned in the U.S. that the more Syria is courted, the less pressure it feels to act; conversely, only when Damascus senses Washington’s lack of interest in Syria or focus on the Israeli-Palestinian track will it feel compelled to prove its goodwill. This legacy too likely will result in a cautious, go-slow approach.

Promotion of Lebanon’s sovereignty and independence has become a strong, bipartisan U.S. consensus. Unlike in the 1990s, the U.S. is now adamant that Syrian interference in Lebanese affairs or any infringement on Lebanon’s sovereignty cannot be countenanced….. As a result, there would be great resistance toward any step which would have the perceived or actual effect of undermining Lebanon’s sovereignty and strong negative reaction toward Syrian meddling in its neighbour’s affairs.

The proceedings of the Hariri tribunal could interfere with any U.S.-Syrian rapprochement. As a corollary to the above, bilateral ties might well be affected by the tribunal’s finding of Syrian involvement in the former prime minister’s assassination. If Damascus were to reject the court’s legitimacy and, for example, refuse to turn over a suspect, pressure in the U.S. to retaliate and halt any improvement in bilateral relations would be strong. Added to this is the possibility that the findings of the International Atomic Energy Agency’s investigation into Syria’s alleged nuclear program could further contaminate the atmosphere.

The regional context will complicate efforts to normalise bilateral ties. As a result of three wars – in Iraq, Lebanon and most recently Gaza – together with the spread of sectarianism, popular radicalisation and deepening inter-Arab polarisation, there are new obstacles to improved U.S.-Syrian relations and an Israeli-Syrian agreement. Syria has grown closer to states and movements with which Washington wishes it would break, and the regime must closely manage those relations even as it considers policy changes toward the U.S. or Israel. As a result, relations cannot be considered a strictly bilateral affair any more than can Israeli-Syrian negotiations;far more than in the past they are deeply connected with and require attention to a host of complex regional issues…..A rapprochement with the U.S. and peace agreement with Israel necessarily will require the regime to undergo a significant strategic readjustment. This would be hard for it to contemplate under any circumstances given the proven usefulness, durability and reliability of its alliances with Iran, Hizbollah and Hamas. It will be virtually impossible to achieve if the regime lacks a clear vision of what it will receive in exchange.

Traditionally pro-American Arab countries could seek to slow down any rapprochement. This is particularly true of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, both of which are locked in a cold war of sorts with Syria – the former mainly over Lebanon, the latter principally as a result of the Gaza war. In the absence of quick inter-Arab reconciliation, which is improbable as of this writing, Riyadh and Cairo likely will seek to persuade the Obama administration to move very slowly vis-à-vis Damascus and focus chiefly on the Israeli-Palestinian track; Washington – keen to retain its alliances with traditional Arab partners – is likely to pay heed.
Working with Syria to improve the situation in Iraq has become less of a priority. Unlike the pre-surge situation, the U.S. no longer views conditions in Iraq as rapidly deteriorating and in need of a significant corrective.The argument that the U.S. needs Syrian cooperation – central to the Iraq Study Group report – arguably has far less resonance today, despite a far more sympathetic administration, because the situation appears to have stabilised in the interim. Although Obama’s team probably will seek to fashion a regional strategy to ensure a successful withdrawal, Syrian leverage has been reduced substantially. As a U.S. official put it, “we are doing much better in Iraq now and need the Syrians less; in effect, we are succeeding without them”.

Among realistic goals: resuming direct Israeli-Syrian negotiations in the context of a comprehensive peace process; diluting the strategic importance of Syria’s relationship with Iran by strengthening alternative ties (with the U.S., Turkey, France, the UK, the EU); developing trilateral security cooperation between Damascus, Washington and Baghdad; and consolidating achievements in Lebanon (a depoliticised international tribunal)….”

Syria economy: Government secures fresh loans for electricity
Bloomberg, 9 February 2009

The government has secured more than US$600m of fresh loans from the European Investment Bank (EIB) and the Kuwait-based Arab Fund for Economic & Social Development (AFESD) to finance electricity and other development projects. A €275m (US$355m) loan was signed in early January with the EIB to cover some of the costs of the construction of a 700-mw extension to
the Deir Ali power station, south of Damascus. A consortium of Metka of Greece and Ansaldo Energia of Italy was awarded the €650m contract for the combined-cycle plant last year. Philippe de Fontaine Vive Curtaz, the EIB’s vice-president, said during a visit to Damascus on January 19th that he hoped that the bank’s project financing for Syria would increase once the Association Agreement with the EU had been formally signed. An amended text of the agreement was initialled in December. Mr Hussein, the Syrian finance minister, also signed three loan agreements with the AFESD during a visit to Kuwait ahead of the Arab economic summit. They comprised KD45m (US$156m) for an extension to the Deir al-Zour power station, KD16m for a highway to link Deir al-Zour to Bukamal, on Iraqi border, and KD10m for the third phase of the Arab Gas Pipeline.

A Syrian cure to Mideast travails by Sami Moubayed

The much-loathed US-embargo on Syria is weakening, thanks to joint efforts of Washington and Damascus in acting in good faith since the inauguration of US President Barack Obama in January. The initiatives started when Syrian President Bashar Al Assad sent Obama a congratulatory letter on his inauguration, promising cooperation on a basket of Middle East issues, mainly regional peace.

This offer was followed by two back-to-back speeches by the Syrian leader, on BBC and at the Doha Summit over Gaza, stressing that Syria was ready for peace and wanted to cooperate with Obama, for the sake of restoring the occupied Golan Heights to their rightful owners. Al Assad has said he hopes the new US leader will be different from his predecessor.

Last week, the US approved the rehabilitation of two Boeing 747 airplanes on the Syrian fleet, turning a blind eye to the Syria Accountability Act, which prohibits American government and companies from doing business with Syria. The Syrians broke the news, adding through several Syrian websites, that “sources” in the US had confirmed that Obama was reviewing the law.

The Syrians realise that lifting the sanctions at once will be difficult, since it takes time to do away with provisions after they become embedded in US law. The sanctions on Syria are picked from a menu, however, and what can be done is establish a “de-ticking” process in which they are lifted on a gradual basis, in anticipation of removing them altogether.

Another welcome step for the Syrians would be the removal of Syria from the state sponsors of terrorism list. That would be easier, since this does not need Congress, and is related to the State Department. Sending a new ambassador to Damascus is also a must, filling a post that has been vacant since 2005.

In January, a team from the Congress-funded US Institute of Peace (USIP) visited Syria and met Al Assad. It included Ellen Laipson, a former adviser under Bill Clinton and a member of the Obama team, and Bruce Jentleson, an adviser to ex-vice-president Al Gore, who described the meeting in the following words: “His phrasing [Al Assad’s] was 70 per cent of our interests are potentially shared and 30 per cent are not. And he said: let’s work on the 70 per cent.” Shortly afterwards, a senior Congressional delegation landed in Damascus, headed by Adam Smith, a Democratic member of the House Foreign Relations Committee. In a significant remark before leaving Syria, he expressed America’s willingness to turn a new leaf in relations with Syria.

Former president Jimmy Carter is expected in Damascus in the next two months for his third visit in one year, and is to be followed by Obama’s Middle East envoy George Mitchell, after the forthcoming Israeli elections. Another senior delegation is expected on February 17, followed by a high profile visit by Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Clearly, the Americans are seeking solutions to the Middle East crisis through Syria. After many years of deliberate neglect under George W. Bush, the Americans realise that if they want solutions to Hezbollah, Hamas, or Iraq, they need Syria’s help. That doesn’t come without a price as the Syrians have always said and that price would include: removing sanctions imposed on Syria by Bush, starting a dialogue with Damascus, hearing out Syrian worries, and giving Syrians the Golan Heights.

Smaller gestures would be finding a solution to the issue of 1.5 million Iraqis in Syria, and ending the media war against Syria in the Western press, spearheaded previously by the US.

Renewed peace talks are a must, but they cannot be bilateral, either direct or indirect, between Syria and Israel, after what happened in Gaza. The Syrians are waiting to hear of a comprehensive peace plan from the US leader, or as some are putting it, a continuation of the Madrid dialogue, chaired by Obama. They also think that any mention of Syria’s relationship with Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah cannot be a pre-condition for peace talks.

Syrians want to be seen as problem-solvers rather than problem-seekers. They want to show the world – mainly the US – that just as they can deliver on Palestine, they can deliver in Iraq and Lebanon. Former US secretary of state Warren Christopher wrote in The Washington Post about his encounter with Syria in the 1990s and how the country influenced the leaders of Hezbollah to stop the conflicts with Israel in 1993 and 1996. He said: “We never knew exactly what the Syrians did, but clearly Hezbollah responded to their direction.”

The Syrians can still “do things” in the Middle East and Obama seems to understand that well, and is learning fast from the mistakes of his predecessor.

Report: US providing parts for Syrian airline
The Associated Press
Sunday, February 8, 2009

DAMASCUS, Syria: A Syrian government newspaper says the U.S. Trade Department has agreed to provide Syria with spare parts to rehabilitate two Boeing 747 planes out of service for years.

Sunday’s report by Al-Baath newspaper could signal a move by the new U.S. Administration to reach out to Damascus and end an economic embargo of Syria.

Al-Baath quoted Syrian Transport Minister Yarub Badr as saying his ministry received the U.S. approval to repair the two planes two days ago.

An official at the U.S. Embassy refused to comment on the report.

In May 2004, then-U.S. President George W. Bush issued an executive order banning all U.S. exports to Syria except for food and medicine.

Jerusalem Post: Israel may reject Turkish arms request
Jerusalem Post, 1 February 2009

John McGlynn, a correspondent from Japan, writes the following analysis of how Japan and China are changing their attitudes toward the Middle East crisis and US leadership:

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei (as reported recently in Syria Comment, calling out Israel for having “violated the rules of international law”), Prime Minster of Turkey Tayyip Erdogan (who had the now-famous run-in with Israeli President Shimon Peres at Davos), President of the United Nations General Assembly Miguel d’Escoto of Nicaragua (who more than once strongly denounced Israel’s invasion of Gaza and looked for ways the General Assembly could circumvent a weak, toothless Security Council resolution on the Gaza).

It seems the cast of characters critical of Israel, its chief supporter the US and the inadequate reaction of the UN to Israeli/US aggression in the Middle East is now attracting members of the world’s high officialdom willing to be outspoken.

How will the foreign policy hawks that Obama has assembled around him react?

Meanwhile, here in Japan the Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ), currently the opposition but with a solid chance of gaining power in elections required to take place by September, is mulling over a new policy that “would call on the United Nations to press for the withdrawal of U.S., NATO and Pakistani forces stationed in Afghanistan, and establish an international team of truce monitors, including Japan and several Arab countries not involved in the conflict.” (Feb. 2 UPI) Other reports indicate the DPJ favors sending in unarmed peacekeepers to work with local Afghanis. “We will make it clear that this will be different from the past involvement of foreign troops,” a DPJ party member said.

What will become of the “Britain in the East” after the next election?

On the economy, the Jan. 29 Wall Street Journal reports that “Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao squarely blamed the U.S.-led financial system for the world’s deepening economic slump, in the most public indication yet of discord between the U.S. government and its largest creditor.” Without directly naming the US, Mr. Wen “blamed an ‘excessive expansion of financial institutions in blind pursuit of profit,’ a failure of government supervision of the financial sector, and an ‘unsustainable model of development, characterized by prolonged low savings and high consumption.'”

The various crises in the Middle East need diplomatic attention but reports indicate that in her new role of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s first trip abroad will be to East Asia to visit China, Japan and South Korea. (Los Angeles Times, Feb. 4)
John McGlynn

Israeli envoy to Australia: Gaza op a ‘pre-introduction’ to attack on Iran
By Asaf Rone
Haaretz, 2 February 2009

The Gaza operation was merely a “pre-introduction” to the challenge Israel would face from Iran, which will become a nuclear power within a year, the Israeli ambassador to Australia said Sunday.

According to Australia’s Channel 7 television, Ambassador Yuval Rotem made the statement at a meeting with leaders of the Sydney Jewish community, having first asked that the cameras be switched off.

While being filmed before the discussion, Rotem said, “The best thing to do is to have a very open dialogue if there are no reporters or journalists here,” before telling the cameraman to stop filming.

“He said that Israel’s recent military offensives were a pre-introduction to the challenge Israel expects from a nuclear-equipped Iran within a year,” Channel 7 reporter Sarah Cummings said. She also quoted Rotem as saying “Israel’s efforts in Gaza were to bring about understanding that we are ready to engage in a decisive way.”

Before the cameras were turned off, Rotem said there was room to build new alliances to face Iran, which he called the strategic threat facing all of us. He said Qatar moved toward Iran in 2009, along with radical Islamic elements, seeming to believe no one will prevent Iran from going nuclear.

Asked to clarify his statements, Rotem said Israel was committed to the diplomatic and economic effort to stop Iran, but that like the Americans, it considers nuclear weapons to be a strategic threat. Uranium enrichment by Iran must be stopped – period, said Rotem.

DJ White House Distances Itself From Dialogue With Iran, Syria
AFP, 2 February 2009

WASHINGTON (AFP)–The White House Sunday sought to distance itself from advisers to Barack Obama who reportedly met with Syrian and Iranian officials during Obama’s transition to power.

“The president made it very clear to the transition team that there would be no contacts with foreign government officials during the transition,” said National Security Council spokesman Mike Hammer.

Obama officially took over the White House Jan. 20, after winning the Nov. 4 presidential election to replace outgoing president George W. Bush.

A group of experts under the auspices of a think-tank known as the United States Institute of Peace announced Thursday that they met for more than two hours in Damascus with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The group included Ellen Laipson, a former White House adviser under president Bill Clinton and a member of the Obama transition team.

That meeting took place Jan. 11, said USIP, a bipartisan think tank financed by Congress.
In addition, nuclear non-proliferation experts had several “very, very high-level” contacts in the last few months with Iranian leaders, Jeffrey Boutwell, executive director for the U.S. branch of the Pugwash group, an international organization of scientists which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1995, said Friday.

Former defense secretary William Perry, who served in Obama’s election campaign, participated in some of these meetings focused on “a wide range of issues that separate Iran from the West: not only their nuclear program but the Middle East peace process, Persian Gulf issues,” Boutwell said….

“Many leading financial institutions have either scaled back dramatically or even terminated their Iran-related business entirely,” Levey said in a March 2007 speech to a conference in Dubai.

Funding Terrorism

“They have done so of their own accord, many concluding that they did not wish to be the banker for a regime that deliberately conceals the nature of its business — too often the business of funding terrorism, and defying the UN Security Council in pursuing a nuclear program,” Levey said in the speech.

Other targeted countries have included Iraq, Syria and North Korea. Sanctions ranged from freezing the assets some companies may have had under U.S. jurisdiction to asking U.S.
banks not to deal with financial institutions accused of helping in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.

Carsten Wieland predicts that a peace deal between Syria and Israel is possible in 2009. He writes:

Because Syria has the potential to be both problem and solution in the Levant, it remains indispensable to any plan for regional peace and security. At present, the time for successful peace negotiations with Israel is not yet ripe. The protagonists are interested, but not yet strong enough to contemplate the painful compromises and secure the political backing that will be necessary. But the progress made in 2008 may yet survive the destruction and embitterment of the Gaza war, and bear fruit in 2009….

Report: Mughniyeh’s Israeli Killers Infiltrated to Syria from ‘Kurdistan
The Israeli daily Yediot Aharonot has said in a report that the assassins of Hizbullah commander Imad Mughniyeh were Israelis who infiltrated from ‘Kurdistan’ into Syria.
The paper said that operational planning for Mughniyeh’s Feb. 2008 assassination started with the arrest of Ali Moussa Daqdouq, a Hizbullah ‘foreign operations’ official, near Karbala, Iraq, in January the same year.

Iraqi security forces later handed over Daqdouq to U.S. intelligence agents who also questioned him regarding Mughniyeh.

The man has reportedly provided the CIA with many details about Mughniyeh, including his phone numbers.

The Americans, according to Yediot, provided the Israeli Mossad with all the information unveiled by Daqdouq.

The paper said that Mughniyeh was assassinated because he committed one big mistake.

The mistake was that several people knew that he would visit Iran’s new ambassador to Damascus, on the occasion of the 29th anniversary of the Islamic revolution on Feb. 12.

The paper added that the Israeli assassination team sneaked into Syria from Iraqi-Kurdistan in three vehicles and monitored Mughniyeh’s move a day before his assassination, including wiretapping his phone line.

According to Yediot Aharonot, the Israeli team reached Mughniyeh’s Mitsubishi Pajero and exchanged the headrest with another loaded with explosives. The Israeli team did not use a time bomb because it feared unforeseen changes.

Once Mughniyeh was seen seated next to the driver’s seat, the headrest blew up by remote control, the paper said.

Yediot Aharonot added that Israel fears Hizbullah and its backer Iran would avenge Mughniyeh’s killing on the first anniversary of his assassination.

Goetz Nordbruch, Nazism in Syria and Lebanon: the ambivalence of the German option, 1933 1945 (London: Routledge, 2009)

The increasingly vibrant political culture emerging in Lebanon and Syria in the 1930s and early 1940s is key to the understanding of local approaches towards the Nazi German regime. For many contemporary observers in Beirut and Damascus, Nazism not only posed a risk to Europe, but threatened to take root in Arab societies as well.

In the first publication to reconstruct Lebanese and Syrian encounters with Nazism in the context of an evolving local political culture and to base its analysis on a comprehensive review of Arab, French and German sources, Götz Nordbruch examines the reactions to the rise of Nazism in the countries under French mandate, spanning from fascination and endorsement to the creation of antifascist networks.

Against a background of public discourses, local politics and the shifting regional and international settings, this book interprets public assessments of and contact with the Nazi regime as part of an intellectual quest for orientation in the years between the break-up of the Ottoman Empire and national independence.

Goetz Nordbruch is assistant professor at the Centre for Contemporary Middle East Studies, University of Southern Denmark, Odense. His research interests include the history of Arab-European relations and the development of modern Arab political culture.

Syria Faces Triple Economic Whammy
AFP, 9 February, 2009

DAMASCUS (AFP) Syria is bracing itself for a tough financial year as drought, falling oil exports and losses by state-owned industries aggravate the impact of the global credit crunch.

Finance Minister Mohammed al-Hussein has admitted the economy faces “a very difficult year” and says the worldwide financial crisis “combined with the drought” which is parching Syria for the third year in a row makes him “very worried” about the outlook.

An economy ministry study forecasts that the credit crunch will cause a 30% drop in foreign investment, along with price increases plus a fall in remittances from Syrians working in other countries, worth $850 million in 2008.

Analysts also highlight the plunge in the price of crude oil, the country’s main source of income, and a fall in all the country’s exports. These sank by half in the final months of 2008 and could weaken again in 2009…

Syrian manufactured products are no longer competitive with goods from China, India and South East Asia, especially following the scrapping of government subsidies, according to Edouard Mkarbne, vice-president of the chamber of trade in the northern city of Aleppo, the country’s economic hub.

The authorities are also worried by the difficult position of state-owned businesses, which are a drain on public finances.

“Of 260 public sector companies, only about 20 generate revenue for the treasury,” Hussein said, highlighting the national oil company, the commercial bank and the telecoms operator. The others make a loss or just break even…

Syria to seek financial sector investment
Middle East Online, 10 February 2009

DAMASCUS – Economic experts have welcomed a statement by Syria’s central bank chief that the government is considering giving foreign investors a chance to buy controlling stakes in financial-sector companies.

“Syria will consider allowing foreign investors to own majority shares in local companies, including banks,” said Adib Mayaleh, governor of Syria’s Central Bank.

“There is a plan for this,” Mayaleh told reporters in mid-January on the sidelines of an Arab economic summit in Kuwait. He did not set out any timeframe for the change.

Economists have interpreted Mayaleh’s comments as a sign that the government is serious about pulling in more foreign investment, especially from Gulf states.

Syrian economy faces ‘very difficult year’
By Roueida Mabardi
AFP, 11 February 2009

DAMASCUS: Syria is bracing itself for a tough financial year as drought, falling oil exports and losses by state-owned industries aggravate the impact of the global credit crunch. Finance Minister Mohammed al-Hussein has admitted the economy faces “a very difficult year” and says the worldwide financial crisis “combined with the drought” which is parching Syria for the third year in a row makes him “very worried” about the outlook.

An economy ministry study forecasts that the credit crunch will cause a 30 percent drop in foreign investment, along with price increases plus a fall in remittances from Syrians working in other countries, worth $850 million in 2008.

Analysts also highlight the plunge in the price of crude oil, the country’s main source of income, and a fall in all the country’s exports. These sank by half in the final months of 2008 and could weaken again in 2009…

Syrian manufactured products are no longer competitive with goods from China, India and Southeast Asia, especially following the scrapping of government subsidies, according to Edouard Mkarbne, vice president of the chamber of trade in the northern city of Aleppo, the country’s economic hub.

The authorities are also worried by the difficult position of state-owned businesses, which are a drain on public finances…

Emerging from economic shadows
By Stephen Glain
The National, 9 February 2009

For years, Zhouheir Yassar Sahloul was the most powerful rogue trader in Syria. As the head of the country’s largest money changer, he was the linchpin between Syria’s struggling, isolated economy and its huge diaspora that remits billions of dollars a year to families back home.

In a country that was saddled with strict foreign exchange laws, it was Mr Sahloul’s agents who ensured Syrian merchants had enough hard currency to do business with partners overseas.
In 2005, when the Syrian pound was on the verge of collapse because of regional political tensions, the Syrian government turned to Mr Sahloul because the country’s central bank lacked the resources to support the currency on its own.

All of this was happening underground. Money changers were illegal but tolerated in Syria, particularly when it came to heavyweights such as Yassar Sahloul and Sons. Ordinary citizens would troop to Mr Sahloul’s offices with plastic shopping bags swollen with banknotes and the authorities would cast a blind eye.

That is changing, however. In recent years, a reformist government has liberalised the Syrian economy and Yassar Sahloul and Sons is now a licensed foreign exchange trader. In June, it will launch an Islamic bank with a Yemeni partner and a capital base of US$100 million (Dh367m). Mr Sahloul hopes that someday Yassar Sahloul and Sons will be the holding company for a diversified concern that will include shipping and property investment assets, as well as banking and finance. Everything will be registered with the government.

“My vision is for a group of companies with the right combination of advisers and a smart board of directors to guide us through investments like real estate development,” he says. “It is important to have outsiders as part of an independent board…”

Comments (68)

nafdik said:


I just read your argument that to judge if Israel’s attack on Gaza was within proportional reason we should consider the economic impact of the Kassam rockets and not only their deadliness.

I agree with you 100%. I have not made the calculation because I do not have sufficient training to crunch the numbers on both sides. I would be very interested in your estimate of the economic damage of the rockets and the actual positive impact the attack has created.

But you point out a very important and forgotten fact. Terrorism is not only killing civilians, but also damaging their livelihood and creating an environment of fear that suppresses economic development.

There is an Arabic proverb “قطع الأعناق و لا قطع الأرزاق” (cutting the necks is better than cutting the livelihood).

On a funny side note demonstrations against Sadat during economic hardships had the slogan “يا بطل العبور فين الفطور” (Hero of the [Sinai 73] crossing where is the breakfast?)

Would you not consider by the same logic that the destruction of the Palestinian economy especially the settlements in the west bank and the blockades in Gaza an attack on these populations?

I know it is a cyclical argument where you will say that they deserve it because they are terrorists; but how do you justify the settlements?

They bring Israel no economic, or military value (quite the opposite) and they cause a lot of hardship to the other side.

February 16th, 2009, 5:15 am


AIG said:


The Hamas range included Ashdod, Ashkelon and Be’ersheba all major Israeli cities. Be’ersheba is the fourth largest city in Israel and Ashdod is in the top ten with Israel’s busiest sea port. So the economic impact was quite large. Also, if Hamas smuggling were not stopped and Hamas were not deterred, their range would include Tel-Aviv and its suburbs in short order. And that would be a critical blow to Israel’s economy.

The Palestinians do not “deserve” blockade or violence. That is not the way I think. They need to be deterred and stopped from using violence against Israel. That is why the blockade is necessary. Which country would continue supplying a neighboring country with goods which are used to attack it???

As for the settlements, I would have been happy had they not existed, but they are a fait accompli that we now have to live with. It took the Arabs too long after 67 to come to the conclusion that they would like to negotiate peace with Israel. Had the Arabs negotiated immediately with Israel after 67 instead of sending the three no’s from Khartoum, we would not be in this predicament. In the period till Oslo, a highly motivated minority in Israel (the settlers) was successful in establishing facts on the ground. The rest of Israelis went along, because without any serious peace negotiations, the settlements were not seen as hindering peace.

The settlements around Jerusalem have great economic value and will not be returned. The same goes for major settlements like the city of Ariel that I can’t imagine being returned. The smaller settlements, do not make sense, I agree with you. The Palestinians will have to accept other land in lieu of the settlements that will not be part of the Palestinian country.

February 16th, 2009, 6:23 am


Shai said:


The question about why Israel continues to settle the West Bank (and has done so for the past 40 years) reminds me of Robin Williams’ story about the French:

“The French are one of few people left who still have underground nuclear testing where do they do it? In the Sahara a wasteland? No, f@#k off. In Tahiti, in paradise. Why? Because we’re French.”

The answer, Nafdik, is “because we’re Israeli…”

February 16th, 2009, 7:20 am


ehsani2 said:

Settlers are the true terrorists. They are part and parcel of the zionist project.

February 16th, 2009, 11:00 am


offended said:

The story of Mughniya’s assassination is very dramatic. Sounds like a rendition of “Munich” the movie.

February 16th, 2009, 11:55 am


love you alex said:

Rich rich, and briliant!! This post is chuck full of information. No wonder SC is a leading source of info on Syria.

February 16th, 2009, 12:47 pm


Qifa Nabki said:

Sami Moubayed says:

…that price would include: removing sanctions imposed on Syria by Bush, starting a dialogue with Damascus, hearing out Syrian worries, and giving Syrians the Golan Heights… finding a solution to the issue of 1.5 million Iraqis in Syria, and ending the media war against Syria in the Western press, spearheaded previously by the US.

Renewed peace talks … cannot be bilateral, either direct or indirect, between Syria and Israel, after what happened in Gaza… … [And] any mention of Syria’s relationship with Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah cannot be a pre-condition for peace talks.

I’m so glad that Syria is looking forward to cooperating fully with the United States on achieving peace. If Sami Moubayed is an accurate messenger, then the Syrians are striking just the perfect tone to be seen as “problem-solvers” not “problem-seekers”: this is what we want, in exchange for which we’ll help you “do things” in the Middle East, but by the way we accept no preconditions and will not engage in any public diplomacy.

Sami, habibi, you sure know how to sell it!

Former US secretary of state Warren Christopher wrote in The Washington Post about his encounter with Syria in the 1990s and how the country influenced the leaders of Hezbollah to stop the conflicts with Israel in 1993 and 1996. He said: “We never knew exactly what the Syrians did, but clearly Hezbollah responded to their direction.”

I think that the answer was vanilla-frosted cupcakes. I know for a fact that the Hizbullah leadership has a thing for vanilla-frosted cupcakes.

February 16th, 2009, 2:46 pm


Shai said:

Alex, did you say you liked Tzipi Livni?… “Kadima: We agree with Lieberman on 90% of issues”,7340,L-3672788,00.html

Kadima is even worse than Likud!

February 16th, 2009, 5:24 pm


offended said:

Dubai denies visa for an Israeli tennis player to participate in Barclay’s Dubai Tennis Championship.

February 16th, 2009, 5:57 pm


Rumyal said:

Good talk with Jimmy Carter on my local radio station… Talks about Israel/Palestine, Syria and Iran.

February 16th, 2009, 11:08 pm


Shami said:

Works underway for Turkey-Syria train line
Officials of Turkey’s railroads authority (TCDD) and Syrian Railways (CFS) met Monday in Ankara to discuss a train service project between Syria and Turkey.

Works underway for Turkey-Syria train line

TCDD chairman Erol Inan said trains on the Aleppo-Mersin and the Aleppo-Gaziantep routes would run twice a week, noting that train cars would be provided by the CFS.

Inan said they attached great importance to train transportation between Turkey and Syria.

CFS chairman Georges Mokabari said the train service on the two routes would enliven trade and tourism between the two countries.

February 16th, 2009, 11:38 pm


Alex said:


Don’t try again … you lost that bet : )

Besides, that was Ausamaa who liked her!

I predicted She will win against Netanyahu… she did (even if she won’t have enough allies to form a government).

Ok, ok … I’ll admit I’m not telling the whole truth. I did say that she seemed to be able to take criticism well (On the charlie Rose show)

But you also remember that I also suggested that the best way for you to decide between voting Likud and Labor was to … flip a coin.

February 17th, 2009, 1:13 am


Alex said:

Syria’s position strengthening internationally, regionally

Posted by Helena Cobban
February 16, 2009 5:28 AM EST | Link
Filed in Gaza08-09 , Syria

Syria’s place in the world community– which the ideologues in the Bush White House did so much to attack and delegitimize– has been strengthening noticeably in the past few days/weeks.

Later this week, Sen. John Kerry, the new chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, will visit Syria. Ahead of the visit, he said the Obama administration is eager to talk to Syria. The US has not had an ambassador there since 2005, though it does have an embassy.

From a domestic US perspective, it is extremely important that this rapprochement win solid support in both houses of Congress, since under pressure from the pro-Israel lobby– as well as the Bush administration– Congress has itself been another major driver of the “isolate and attack Syria” campaign.

At a regional level, Syria has won some new influence, too. Yesterday, the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence service, Prince Muqrin bin Abdul-Aziz, visited Syria where he met President Bashar al-Asad and conveyed from King Abdullah (his older half-brother), a message about “bilateral ties and the importance of consultation and coordination between the two sides”, according to the Syrian official news agency.

A rapprochement between Syria and Saudi Arabia– which have been at loggerheads since the assassination of former Lebanese PM Rafiq Hariri in February 2005– would be extremely significant for the politics of the entire region.

Western spinmeisters and MSM have made a huge point about the depth and alleged intractability of the rift between the alleged “moderates” and “extremists” in the Arab world, a rift that seemed particularly evident during the most recent Gaza crisis.

But most western commentators often have little idea about the depth and complexity of the regional dynamics that continue to underlie regional– and in particular, inter-Arab– relations. I find it interesting that these two regimes, in particular, now apparently see it in their interest to move towards some degree of rapprochement.

The political fallout from the Gaza crisis continues. Egypt has been, I think, somewhat strengthened in its role in the region– as I wrote last week. But so, too, has Syria. So the whole regional system remains dynamic, and certainly not easily reducible to some form of a zero-sum “moderates versus extremists” template.

February 17th, 2009, 1:17 am


Chris said:

Regarding the sanctions, I can’t imagine that they would be lifted until there is a significant change in the behavior of the Assad family regime. This is because removing them would require congressional action as the export restrictions are part of the Syrian Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2003. So, a dramatic change in U.S. policy with respect to the sanctions cannot come simply as a result of a change in the U.S. administration. The modification or repealing of this act would require congressional action and presidential consent (unless congress could override a potential veto). Getting congress to act is difficult in general, but getting them to repeal this law while they have to contend with the global economic meltdown, well, it doesn’t look like it will happen anytime soon.

It is also important to note that food and medical exports are not limited under the sanctions against Syria.

February 17th, 2009, 2:34 am


nafdik said:

Agreed Chris,

Sanction lifting has to be sanctified by AIPAC.

The day they are lifted you will know Assad cut a deal with the Israelis.

February 17th, 2009, 2:46 am


chris said:

We can only hope that the economic effects of the crisis on Syria will induce the Assad family regime to change their behavior so as to improve their relations with the U.S. A change in the regime’s behavior would allow the U.S. congress to begin to see the Assad family regime in a different light. With that the sanctions might be removed. Without a change in the Assad family regime’s policy, the combination of the massive corruption (patrimonialism), the global economic crisis, the sanctions, and reduced income from oil will be very painful for the people of Syria. Of course, given the iron grip that Bashar has on power, the well-being of the people of the country may not be among the top of his priorities.

February 17th, 2009, 2:54 am


Joe M. said:

Chris the Zionist,

Just to clarify some basic matters for you, the president of the USA has the power to determine foreign policy. And the president is also the administrator of the policies of the USA Treasury. The Treasury is the arm of government that polices the sanctions. And Obama could change that policy tomorrow if he wanted, simple as that. It has almost nothing to do with congress.

The those idiots in congress could try to sue the president, if they wanted, but there is no way the supreme court would hear the case.

So, as much as you love the sanctions, and want to try to believe that they have anything to do with congress, you are dead wrong. (as usual).

Oh, and your propaganda is more infantile every day. “iron grip”, give me a break.

February 17th, 2009, 4:27 am


AIG said:

Two interesting articles about the Syrian economy:

Ehsani, what does it mean that 40% of the Syrian budget is funded by printing money? Isn’t Syria risking hyper-inflation? How much foreign currency does Syria have left?

February 17th, 2009, 5:32 am


offended said:

I think president Obama should lift the unfair sanctions on Syria, and he should also look into imposing some sort of sanctions on Israel for its continuous obstruction of peace in the region, and for its continuous policies of racial segregation, settlements expansion, and land grabbing.

February 17th, 2009, 6:04 am


nafdik said:

Joe M,

As much as we want to vent our frustration at being 4th class citizen in our own country by fighting the “Zionists”, facts remain the same:

Even if we think we are resisting the Zionist Plan, and refuse to call the US and Israel our masters.

Guess what? When the time is right and the calculus of power dictates, they will become our master’s masters.

We all know this in our heart. Look at Egypt and Saudi Arabia the bastions of Arabism and Islam.

If we want to fight (or make dignified peace with) the Zionists, then we should first get our hands free. Otherwise our shouts sound like the barks of the proverbial dogs by whom the caravans of history will pass.

February 17th, 2009, 6:16 am


offended said:

Nafdeek says:

Sanction lifting has to be sanctified by AIPAC.
The day they are lifted you will know Assad cut a deal with the Israelis.

Ah, so the imposing of the sanctions was spurred by the AIPAC?

Good for Syria, you can never go wrong pissing off the AIPAC.

February 17th, 2009, 6:19 am


Joe M. said:

There is a quote from a Spanish revolutionary named Dolores Ibarruri, where she said:
“It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.”

You seem to enjoy living on your knees, and kissing the feet of your oppressors. fine, do what you want. but don’t expect people to respect you. History has shown that those who fight for their freedom are superior to those who eat kiss the ass of the powerful.

Let me just add that people who have your views are not respected by anyone. The Zionists exploit you, your own people consider you collaborators. You may think you are having the last laugh because you kiss the feet of your oppressors, but it’s simply not true. I respect those who have values, respect for themselves, who are willing to fight for the greater good. you sound like a total coward.

February 17th, 2009, 6:48 am


nafdik said:


It is stupid to piss AIPAC off in the first place, but only treachery will get you back on their good side.


February 17th, 2009, 6:50 am


offended said:

I hear you. But beg to disagree. The thaw will be from the AIPAC side, not Syria’s.

February 17th, 2009, 7:04 am


nafdik said:

Joe M,

Yes, I am a total coward.

I am afraid of going back to my own country, because I might be shot in the back of the head if I am lucky.

I would have a lot of respect for your courage, if you are living in Gaza, Nablus or Tel Aviv and fighting your oppressors. If you are please tell me and I will shut my mouth.

If, on the other hand, you are living in Halab, Seidnaya, US, Europe or anywhere outside Israel or the Occupied territories then I beg you to explain what danger are you placing yourself in?

As for fighting your oppressors, I was not DIRECTLY oppressed neither by President Bush, nor by Benjamin Netanyahu. I was however, oppressed by Assad and his gang, on a daily basis. So are 99.65% of all Syrians.

And guess what? The American people and the Israelis dispatched both Mr Bush and Netanyahu home while we are still living with the DNA of our oppressor for 30 years.

If your definition of courage is to ask the Palestinian people to live in camps for generations so that you have something to tell your children about in order to hide your own serfdom, then keep it up.

PS Don’t worry the caravan will pass and it will all feel painless once you get used to it.

February 17th, 2009, 7:08 am


offended said:

Also, judging the leadership of your country by the attitude of AIPAC towards it is quite erroneous.

February 17th, 2009, 7:32 am


nafdik said:

Joe M,

In reference to your comment about the fact that your do not have respect for me.

Lack of respect from a muddle-headed, confused, pretend-macho-man-revolutionary, serfdom-accepting person like yourself, is quite encouraging.

(Apologies and retractions if you are actually living in Israel or occupied territories, but really doubt it)


I was only joking in regards to AIPAC.

February 17th, 2009, 7:42 am


Joe M. said:

I have been banned from re-entering “israel” for around 5 years now (despite american citizenship). I am currently in the USA, but have been in Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon off and on over the years. But in the USA i have experienced political oppression to greater degree than I have in the Arab countries (well, other than Egypt, where i had many problems).

forget the personal, for now. let me just say that politically speaking, i don’t think that accepting the status-quo provides enough peace so that those like you and i can just live normally. we both (i assume) have family and friends throughout the lands of war….

So, unlike you, I would rather confront it. because, in the longer-term it will take a dramatic re-organization to fix the problem.

February 17th, 2009, 7:51 am


offended said:

Yglesias, one of the most prominent liberal leaning bloggers in the US, has an excellent commentary on the settlements issue (although he needs to be a bit more accurate on the measuring uints):

“Israel Grabs More Palestinian Land, Sets Stage for Further Illegal Colonization of Palestinian Territory

Meanwhile, in the Middle East’s only democracy, settlements continue to grow:

Some 1,700 dunams of land in the northern part of Efrat were declared state land last week, paving the way for the West Bank settlement to start the process of seeking government approval to build there.

The Civil Administration issued the declaration after rejecting eight appeals by Palestinians against the move. A ninth appeal was accepted, and the land covered by this appeal was consequently removed from Efrat’s jurisdiction.

Barack Obama and George Mitchell need to make a serious effort to stop this. Opposition to settlements has long been official United States policy, but the overwhelming tendency has been for U.S. administrations to turn a blind eye to settlement expansion. The expansion itself is an impediment to peace, and American unwillingness to stand behind our own policy commitments is devastating to our credibility in the region.

Incidentally, my understanding is that a dunam is equal to a square meter, meaning that we’re talking about around 18,300 square feet.”

February 17th, 2009, 8:02 am


nafdik said:

Joe M,

As promised, I wholeheartedly apologize and retract what I said.

To go back to politics. The choice of confrontation vs peace should be left in my opinion to the Palestinian people who have to bear the costs of these decisions.

The Arab countries have a duty:

– To support the Palestinians in executing their choice
– To give them the truth as to their capacity for help
– To improve their general condition so that their help is meaningful


February 17th, 2009, 8:03 am


Qifa Nabki said:

Great reading from Stephen Walt on the possible death of the two-state solution:

Part 2 is here:

Also, Bernard Avishai’s article on the tribes of Israel is not to be missed:

February 17th, 2009, 8:12 am


Shai said:


I unfortunately exist on the other-side of the equation. And on my side, everything has to change. But in order for it to change, it can happen either willingly (which obviously isn’t the direction we’re headed), or by force. I cannot fathom being on the Palestinian side, and NOT belonging to some kind of resistance, either a violent or a non-violent one (or both). I don’t need to be a Palestinian to understand that perhaps the last thing those poor people in Gaza still have, is their dignity. And they cannot allow us (Israel) to rob them of that as well. They must keep fighting. And you must keep supporting them, one way or another.


A Dunam is 1000 square meters. Saying “Opposition to settlements has long been official United States policy.” is like saying “I (the parent) knew my son was hanging out with the wrong crowd, doing drugs, etc… but I thought he was using the weekly allowance to ride the bus to school and buy himself lunch at the cafeteria…”

February 17th, 2009, 9:13 am


Chris said:


Hoping for a change in the behavior of the Assad family regime does not make one a zionist. Just as being critical of Qadhafi does not make one a zionist.

But about presidential authority and the Syrian Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Act of 2003. The legislation congressionally mandates the prohibition of the export of dual-use items to Syria. It is also important to note that President Bush opposed the law when it was being discussed because it would restrict his freedom of action.

Obama can’t do what he wants with respect to these sanctions, congress needs to be convinced that there are good reasons to take action toward removing the export restrictions on goods to Syria. If the Assad family regime does not want to change then it is free to develop its own technology or import from Iran.

February 17th, 2009, 12:22 pm


offended said:

Shai, I stand corrected. A dunam is indeed 1000 sq.meters

February 17th, 2009, 12:26 pm


Akbar Palace said:

Nafdik said:

Sanction lifting has to be sanctified by AIPAC.

I disagree. AIPAC needs Obama, not the other way around. Since American Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, Obama is pretty much free to do what he wants in the Middle East.

If Obama decides to cut the size of Israel down to Tel Aviv and the surrounding suburbs, he would get ZERO backlash from the Jewish community that (the secret is out) puts liberalism WAY BEFORE support for Israel.

The day they are lifted you will know Assad cut a deal with the Israelis.

IMHO, this will be proven incorrect.

Hillary and Obama will now pull “Smart Power” out of their hat and pretend it will bring world piece along with all that “Hopenchange”.
Assad will get “favored nation status” (for all intents and purposes) as US government representatives amass frequent flyer miles.

The Era of Bombshelters has begun…

February 17th, 2009, 12:26 pm


Akbar Palace said:

Well, this is good news: FM Tzippi Livni is ready to give up “half of Israel” for peace.

Either AIPAC’s strings on the cute Israeli puppet have been cut, or the strings never existed.

I get back to you with the answer. The first thing I’m going to do is check the AIPAC website to see if AIPAC is going to issue a “harsh letter” to the Israeli government crticizing the idiot Israeli foreign minister. Anyone want to help?

February 17th, 2009, 12:54 pm


Shai said:

Akbar Palace,

Don’t worry, in this election campaign not a single party uttered the word “peace”. So Livni can now (much belatedly) attempt to differentiate herself from Netanyahu, either by announcing her party agrees with 90% of Lieberman’s agenda, or that she’s now ready to give back “1/2 of Israel” (which one, the one under water, or above it?), but the only people she’s fooling are you and your supporters. She’s no longer fooling anyone else.

Not to worry – Bibi will soon form a narrow government with the Right, and things will become much clearer… (Kind of funny how desperate he is NOT to reach this scenario, isn’t he. He’s practically kissing Kadima’s feet to join him. I love it.) If Israel is tired of the Left, no problem, let’s give it a proper government from the Right, and only from the Right. I’ll be sitting in row 4-A. The one with the popcorn…

February 17th, 2009, 2:10 pm


AKbar Palace said:

Don’t worry, in this election campaign not a single party uttered the word “peace”.


And neither have your friends in Syria, Lebanon, and Hamastan.

But don’t worry, it’s all Israel and AIPAC’s fault.

Not to worry – Bibi will soon form a narrow government with the Right, and things will become much clearer…

Actually Shai, I am concerned. With Israeli politics the way it is, political partisanship is more important than the state. The bottom line is, no coalition will be stable.

Also, find it ironic that Sharon left Likud to create what the world media considers a “center-left” party (aka Kadima) which, for all intents and purposes, is the new Labor party. For the life of me, I don’t know the difference between Kadima and Labor.

Anyway your Arab and Meretz parties did rather poorly, I guess giving the Arabs everything they want for nothing in return doesn’t excite the electorate, especially in the South.

February 17th, 2009, 2:25 pm


Shai said:

The only reason there won’t be a stable coalition would be if your Right didn’t know how to do it. Most Israelis (who you and AIG are generally so proud to be in agreement with) clearly voted for the Right. The Left has shrunk to a total of 16 seats (13+3). It is essentially non-existent. And you know what – I have a funny suspicion that Bibi and Tzipi, and most Israelis, will suddenly wish that never happened. That’s why I’m desperately hoping Bibi will form a government out of his so-called 65 seat majority, without a single member of the present or past Left, Center-Left, or Left-the-Left. Let the Right Rule! And let’s see them do it…

I’m not nearly as “concerned” for my country as you somehow seem to be. Funny, just a while ago you were so certain Israel needed the Right at the helm. So you got it – 65 seats is quite stable. And yet, you’re worried…? Shucks. 🙂

From my point of view, Tzipi can go sit in the Opposition, together with Barak (until he gets kicked out of Labor), and in the next election, let Tzipi go back to her real home, Likud (not Labor, AP), and let the 3-4 seats that went Kadima-way go back to Labor. Most of Kadima is Likud, that’s more than obvious. Some could also join Israel Beitenu (Lieberman), since they now agree with 90% of his agenda…

You and your supporters have done good, AP. Be happy, not worried.

February 17th, 2009, 3:35 pm


SimoHurtta said:

Seems that a new war is nearing because the Israeli foreign ministry’s propaganda “asset”, Chris the Orientalist, has returned to the payroll.

Well Chris I suppose in the present economical circumstance US sanctions are relatively meaningless. Relative few US items are such that they can’t be bought elsewhere. US as an export target is presently “dead”, not even Japan can export there much. US ability to give financial aid are extremely limited for years to become. If they give something that is in reality Chinese and Arab money.

In reality what economically matters to Syria is the region (Israel not included) and EU. If Syria manages to sign finally the trade treaty with EU USA sanctions do not “matter”.

A funny event with apples. Isn’t this a violation against US sanctions? Aren’t apples dual use weapons, Syrians can throw them back and hit some Israeli individuals of their master race (=religion).

How Israeli newspaper sees the apple event
Israel exporting Golan apples to Syria

How Syria sees it
Syria will receive apples of Syrian farmers in Golan on Tuesday

Amusingly Israeli press sees the Syrian citizens in Golan as Israeli farmers and the transaction as “export”. 😀

February 17th, 2009, 3:44 pm


nafdik said:

Shai, AP,

I am puzzled that as the world has developed very negative view of the Gaza bombings, Israeli public has supported it more than previous such operations.

As the US and the world are moving away from the bomb-them-and-lets-discuss-later mentality, Israel seem to be looking for her W.

Why is the outlook from inside different from the outlook from outside?

Beyond slogans, what is really going in the mind of the average Israeli? Are there demographic changes or cultural currents that explain the shift to the right.

February 17th, 2009, 3:47 pm


AIG said:

Shai and AP,

Have patience. Likud and Kadima will eventually end up in a coalition government together. Could be with rotation, could be without rotation, but the writing is on the wall. The problem is not that Bibi cannot put in place a right wing coalition. The problem is that the religious parties are only right wing when it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict but are in fact more socialistic than the labor party when it comes to economic policies.

I am in fact for accepting a rotation in prime minister in order to get Kadima in. Bibi thinks he can get them in without a rotation. He will get his chance. But if he doesn’t succeed, it will be rotation with Bibi going first. This will be EXCELLENT for Israel because rotation governments last longer than non-rotation ones, thus ensuring political stability with a HUGE coalition.

February 17th, 2009, 4:04 pm


jad said:

Great government EH!

Arabic group could lose federal funding over insult
Minister called ‘professional whore’
The Ottawa Sun

Check out the polls (They shouldn’t be funded to start with 43%)

I like the collective punishment strategy. Really smart!

February 17th, 2009, 5:07 pm


chris said:


Certainly European trade is more important for the Syrian economy than the US, however, as Josh and Ehsani noted on Feb 6, 2009, Syria has been impacted by the sanctions. When I lived in Syria a guy I did a language exchange with said that he noticed the impact of the sanctions in the period after they were imposed. Although, that could have just been the effect of the regime blaming the results economic mismanagement on the sanctions. In either case, the articles above point to the difficult times ahead for the Syria economy. If the Assad family regime is content with the direction things are going then they can continue on the current path, but if they wish to encourage foreign investment and have access to foreign goods than they may benefit from a change of behavior.

Sanctions can be convenient. They allow the dictator to blame society’s woes on outsiders. They also allow the regime to portray the country as under siege, which enables it to brand its political critics as enemies of the country or in this case “zionists.” So, any move by the regime toward getting the sanctions lifted might be tempered by such considerations.

Ehsani2 and Josh wrote recently in SC:
“Until recently, the official line of the Syrian government has been that the economic sanctions imposed by the United States were harmless because the country was able to attract the foreign investment it needed despite them. Mr. Dardari now admits that the lifting of the sanctions will “remove a psychological barrier” to new investment. Indeed, Mr. Dardari argues that the lifting of economic sanctions should be an important condition for resuming full dialogue with Washington. One can only conclude that US sanctions have been a serious impediment to foreign investment in Syria and a drag on the economy. Undoubtedly, so long as President Bush was in the White House and calculating how he could hurt Syria, Damascus had to put on a good face and deny that sanctions were working… “

February 17th, 2009, 6:01 pm


Chris said:

Thanks for bringing that article to light! Canada certainly is in the vanguard when itmes to protecting the “liberal values of tolerance and mutual respect.” It’s great that this minister is working to prevent radicals from giving Muslims a bad name.

February 17th, 2009, 6:22 pm


Akbar Palace said:

Beyond slogans, what is really going in the mind of the average Israeli? Are there demographic changes or cultural currents that explain the shift to the right.


Once again, I will give you my opinion, but you won’t believe me. At the cost of being repetative, here goes:

There is no substantial “demographic changes or cultural currents that explain the shift to the right”. NONE.

In short, “the shift to the right” is only due to the deteriorating security situation on Israel’s borders.

February 17th, 2009, 6:50 pm


Shai said:


The last time Israelis seemed to perhaps be ready for real change was in the one-two years following Oslo, during Rabin’s time. It was also a time Israel was beginning to split in two in a major way which, as you’ll recall, culminated in Rabin’s assassination. There was a tiny bit of momentum left within the majority of Israelis (for peace), but it too died out very quickly.

In the past 40 years, Rabin was perhaps the only exception to the norm, of prime minister after prime minister, and government after government, who used “peace” as a code-word for continued Occupation. And the Israeli public bought it. It got used to ongoing settlement activity (supported by all governments), and a process of moral corruption began within our society, and continues to this very day.

The Arabs (Palestinians and Arab-Israelis) had no alternative, but to resist this trend. Some did it in non-violent ways, others with violence. And Israeli occupation, suffocation, and subjugation of the Palestinian territory and its people only lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy, namely that Arabs hate Jews. We gave Arabs all the reasons to hate us, and when they did, we pointed back at them and said “Aha – they hate us! – we must defend ourselves…” And we became more and more hawkish. When you’ve created this for yourself, its extremely easy to keep seeing what you want.

In 1992, under Rabin, Labor had 44 seats in Parliament. In 2009, under Barak, they have 13! That’s where “The Left” is… They’ve all been brainwashed by the likes of Tzipi Livni, Netanyahu, Lieberman. They all truly believe that we (Israel) are innocent little lambs, that in order to avoid being sent to the slaughterhouse, we must team up, and go kill the wolves. And, if possible, 1300 wolves at a time… And since America buys it, there are few potential “shepherds” out there to force us onto a different path.

Perhaps Obama could be such a shepherd. We’ll find out.

February 17th, 2009, 7:07 pm


ehsani2 said:


It is not credible to suggest that the economic sanctions have not hurt syria. However, it is equally none-credible to suggest that damascus is about to sell out and capitulate due to such economic pressures.

February 17th, 2009, 7:29 pm


offended said:

wow… I laughed outloud when I read this.

“At the invitation of Hariri-Saudi group, Hitchens is visiting Lebanon. A source sent me this: “I dont know if you find this as news worthy or not, but Christopher Hitchens is currently in Beirut sponsored by the same group that owns that crap NOW Lebanon. He got in a few nights ago and surprisingly went out drinking. On his way out of the bar he saw an SSNP poster and wrote on it “Fuck the SSNP”. There just happened to be some SSNP thugs near by–most likely asking people for their ID, and most likely to no avail–and saw him write on the poster and kicked his ass. He is still walking with a limp.””

February 17th, 2009, 7:47 pm


Joe M. said:


Please stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. It’s obvious you don’t know anything about how the American government works. If you want more proof that Obama can do whatever he wants regarding sanctions, read below:

I will also point out that a treaty is different than some plain law, but even so, it is very unlikely congress will have standing to sue (if they decided to).

So, there is almost no doubt that Congress has no say in how Obama deals with foreign relations.

(and there were a lot of other comments that deserve being discusses, sorry,

February 17th, 2009, 7:51 pm


Chris said:

Please stop it with the ad hominem attacks. They do nothing to enhance the credibility of your argument.

Countries do respond to economic pressure. We saw this with Qaddhafi in Libya and in South Africa.

You suggest that the Assad family regime might not “sell out.” It’s not clear what you mean by sell out since we really haven’t fleshed out what kind of response to the sanctions might result in congressional action. Bashar and his family may not be responsive to the economic needs of the Syrian people given the fact that it is a brutal dictatorship. It is just as possible that they may be, especially given the fact that Rami Makhlouf and other members of the family stand to make even more money from their connections if the economy improves. In any case, there is a very good chance that even a regime like that in Syria is interested in improving the lives of the people under their control. If that’s the case, then it is possible that the Assad family regime might take action to get the U.S. congress to lift the sanctions. Of course, that would mean compromising and other things that wouldn’t like look like victory.

February 17th, 2009, 8:11 pm


jad said:

Stick to Joe’s advise (stop embarrassing yourself), you obviously know nothing about Canadians.
The Canadian minister’s reaction is so backward and pretty low, this conservative government is the worst one regarding international relations and NGO and any creativity funding.
They are so dump on many levels, they love to cut budget on everything, they suck.

February 17th, 2009, 8:13 pm


Chris said:


I didn’t know that that they, the Canadian government, “suck.” I also wasn’t aware of the fact that “They are so dump on many levels, they love to cut budget on everything.” So maybe you’re right I don’t know very much about Canada, but please keep informing us. Your insight about how much they “suck” is thought provoking. Thank you Jad for the wonderful contribution to our discussion of the Middle East and Canada.

February 17th, 2009, 8:36 pm


majedkhaldoun said:

Someone mentioned that the majority of jews voted for Obama,the jews I know they voted ,all of them, to McCain, I wonder to who A.P. and the ilk here, voted for?
What they say publicly, is not what they do secretly.

February 17th, 2009, 9:26 pm


ehsani2 said:


Bashar and his family
Brutal dictatorship
Assad family regime that….

Your comment is idiotic.Throwing rami makhlou’s name while peppering the rest of your comments with the above quotes does not make sound as informed as you seem to fancy yourself.

The reasons behind Syria’s economic predicement are a lot more complicated and nuanced than the silly and childlish comment that you made.

February 17th, 2009, 9:28 pm


Chris said:

I didn’t intend to get into the details of the Syrian economy. I was only trying to look at whether or not the Assad family regime would alter its behavior in an effort to improve the economic well-being of its people.

February 17th, 2009, 9:40 pm


ehsani2 said:

You make it sound like keeping the syrian people poor is an explicit objective. I don’t subscrive to this.clearly you do.

February 17th, 2009, 10:29 pm


Chris said:


No one on this blog wants the Syrian people to be poor. I hope that Bashar and his regime can take the actions necessary to get the sanctions lifted.
Once he takes a different course regionally, I’m sure the U.S. and other nations would be less hesitant to trade with Syria. Of course, I have no illusions about it ceasing to be a brutal one-party dictatorship.

As far as altering policy is concerned: he may have to be humble, but he can do it.


American Jews voted for Barack Hussein Obama overwhelmingly. Jews, as a demographic group, are among the most loyal democrats. I would say they are second to African Americans in that regard. Let’s put it this way, finding a Jewish republican is almost as hard as finding a black republican. They exist, certainly, but you have to go searching to find one. Jews voted for McCain like Arabs voted for Shas.

February 17th, 2009, 10:41 pm


Joe M. said:

the strength of my argument is self-evident (because, unlike you, i actually know what i am talking about), and I need not concern myself with whether you like or dislike how i address your views.

Also, you continue to show your ignorance when you say that sanctions are effective at changing behavior. If you review the political science literature, you will see that it is almost a consensus that sanctions do not work. But further, let me just point out the foolishness of your argument above.

1) you site Libya as an example of a time that sanctions changed bahavior, but you clearly have no idea what happened in the case of the libyan sanctions. I hate to have to give you history lessons, because it would take hours to get you to a decent level of understanding, but Libya did not change its behavior. It paid to get the sanctions lifted (without having to change behavior), and in terms of its weapons programs, Libya decided that it was more valuable to get the west to buy its programs than they were worth. You might idolize bush, and believe every empty-headed word he says, but those are the facts. And to preemptively strike the argument that you will probably respond with, Libya was negotiating with England to get rid of its weapons well before 9/11. But, the sanctions did not change Libya’s actions at all, but Saif Qaddafi changed government policy. Just look at Qaddafi today and you will see that his behavior is just as erratic as it always was. (I could also point out the fallacy of using south africa as an example, but i don’t have the energy)

2) further, your idiotic argument that sanctions are effective ignores the vast majority of the data. you tried to point out two cases (both of which are weak examples), but you mysteriously ignored all the counterexamples. How did sanctions change the behavior of: Saddam? North Korea? Burma? Syria? Iran? Hamas? the Talaban? Zimbabwe? and many others? The answer is “not much, if at all.” So please, I understand that your zionist mind has a hard time understanding the difference between reality and your obscure view of the world, but i would suggest that you look at the facts before you open your mouth in the future.

February 17th, 2009, 10:46 pm


jad said:

(Thank you Jad for the wonderful contribution to our discussion of the Middle East and Canada.)
Oh Chris, you are so sweet!
You are so very welcome and thank you for your honest complement, regardless of how good my contributions are nothing is compared to yours. You are the best!! 🙂

If you are still interested in educating yourself regarding the Canadian federal conservative government that ‘sucks’ there are plenty of links that will help you in your debate next time, search and you will get plenty of useful information and subjects that you can add to your vocabulary.

Don’t forget: please keep supporting Palestinians under the terrible Israeli occupation. Free Palestine!

February 17th, 2009, 10:56 pm


majedkhaldoun said:

chris, did you vote for Obama?

February 17th, 2009, 10:58 pm


chris said:

I’m living in Italy for school right now. I am ashamed to say that I didn’t order my ballot in time for the election. The mail-in ballot arrived in Italy after the election. So, I didn’t vote, (I know lame excuse) but I did give money to Obama’s campaign on two occasions and if I could have voted for him or if I had ordered the ballot in time I would have voted for him.

My view of Obama is: so far so good.

February 17th, 2009, 11:16 pm


nafdik said:


Allow to differ with you on Chris comment.

His framework for analyzing the behavior of the Assad Family Regime is a very useful.

When looking at a dictatorship you have to look at its power base. In the same way we need to consider the impact of AIPAC and other lobbies on the American administration, we have to look at how different forces within and around the AFR are acting to shape events.

As for his referring to the AFR as Bashar and his family, the brutal dictator, and the like, it is on the same level of usefulness as calling the Israeli government Zionists, or Bush an idiot. Unnecessary, but nevertheless true.

February 18th, 2009, 12:30 am


Joe M. said:

how do you feel about the argument that the best way to force the hand of the Arab regimes is to remove the pressure caused by the West and Israel… (i poorly phrased that). I mean, do you believe Syria would still be repressive if Israel and the USA did not provide legitimate threats to the country? I assume you do. But, I also assume you think it would be much harder for Syria to be repressive under those conditions.

I am not trying to justify the repression, but it seems like addressing the internal problems would be a lot easier if we addressed the external problems as forcefully. And often, the internal problems are, in my opinion, the direct and unavoidable result of the external problems.

February 18th, 2009, 1:07 am


nafdik said:


I agree with you that having external pressure is a very useful tool to the dictators to legitimize themselves.

One of my grave concerns about Syria is that the Syrian intellectuals have bought into this and have redirected the little energy they have to fighting external forces, and even to justifying the dictatorship as a necessary evil to unite the people against the external threats.

Here are my comments on this:

a) Even if we removed the external threats is a fools errand. Once we remove them the dictators will come up with new ones: enemies of the revolution, terrorists, communists, atheists, salafists, takfirees, cheap 3rd world labor, global warming, lunar eclipse, ….

b) How can we fight legitimate threats if we are not in control of the state? I usually point to Egypt as the prime example, when the dictatorship wanted to fight Israel, they did, when they wanted to assist Israeli massacres they did too. Egypt has the largest Arab and Muslim ‘street’ in the region and the street has a negligible impact on the real world. To face the external threat we have to move from the street to the palace. That is the n 1 objective, all other activities are distractions in my opinion.

c) The actual countries that did have an activist stand lately in the Israeli conflict are Lebanon, Iran, Turkey and Hamas Gaza. They all have some influence of the people on the government. I am not suggesting an Iranian or Lebanese model of democracy, I am just pointing out that the dictators have stayed silent all along. The reason is very simple, they have too much to lose, so they can be easily controlled directly or indirectly by a superior power. Even the vaunted Saddam could have been controlled and the only reason he got loose was because the US decided they prefer to invade than to deal.

In conclusion, I am not saying that we should not fight external forces, help in the development, fight discrimination, or any of the other noble causes. I think each of us has a skill and is passionate about one area and should channel his skills into what he is passionate about to help our countries.

However, when any of these noble warriors suggest that we should delay the discussion about our freedom in exchange for education, economy, fighting Israel, fighting US, building internal unity, etc; then they move into the realm of causing greater harm than good.

February 18th, 2009, 1:31 am


norman said:

American Jews are more afraid of Christian fundamentalist than from a change in American forign policy , They fear becoming a second class citizen in a Christian America.

That is the reason they vote for the Democrats , always did and always will.

February 18th, 2009, 3:04 am


Chris said:


There are 13 jews in the U.S. Senate ( there a total of 100 Senators, two for each state) and there will be a 14th when Al Franken’s election is certified. Compare that to there being exactly one African American, Roland Burris of Illinois, in the Senate. Given, that jews make up a mere 2% of the population and that a majority of the population of many states have chosen to elect jews to represent them, I don’t think they risk becoming second-class citizens anytime soon.
The country that gave us Philip Roth is going to spurn its jewish citizens?
I don’t think so and I don’t think very many jews are worried about the prospect, at least not my jewish friends.

February 18th, 2009, 11:27 am


Akbar Palace said:

Have patience. Likud and Kadima will eventually end up in a coalition government together.


As of this morning, it doesn’t look like your scenario is gaining steam. Yvette has endorsed BB, not Kadima. And Kadima is holding firm to stay in the opposition.

February 19th, 2009, 2:31 pm


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