Could Syria’s Current Predicament Have Been Avoided Over A Decade Ago? – By Ehsani

Like nearly 25 million other Syrians, one cannot help but feel stunned and exasperated by the events engulfing our country.  How did we get here? How can a country long associated with “stability” suddenly unravel and enter what seems to most like a black hole?

Things could not look more differently back in November 2000. Barely few months into his Presidency, the 34 year-old new leader declared the closing of the Mezze prison and the release of hundreds of political prisoners. Those hoping for the birth of a new Syria felt vindicated. Surely, the past thirty years of the heavy handedness of the much feared Moukhabarat agencies would soon give way to a new atmosphere of political, legal and economic reform.

Michele Kilo, Burhan Ghalioun, Riad Seif, Aref Dalila, Anwar al-Bunni, Kamal al-Labwani , Mamoun al-Homsi, Omar Amiralay, Suhair al-Atassi, Hussein al-Awdat, Antoun al-Makdisi, Fawaz Tillo, Habib Salih, Haitham al-Maleh and Radwan Ziadeh certainly all thought so as they made up the major figures of what later became known as the “Damascus Spring”.

Groups of like-minded people were suddenly meeting in private houses and discussing political matters and social questions. Such locations were soon referred to as “mundatat” or “salons”. Naturally, political demands soon grew into what was later referred to as the “Manifesto of the 99”. The principal demand consisted of the cancellation of the state of emergency and abolition of martial law and special courts; the release of all political prisoners; the return without fear of prosecution of political exiles; and the right to form political parties and civil organization. To these was often added the more precisely political demand that Article 8 of the Syrian constitution be repealed. The movement never called for regime change nor challenged the legitimacy of Bashar al-Assad’s succession to the presidency.

Participants of The Damascus Spring were ahead of their time. The Arab world was yet to experience a spring of any kind.  It is worth noting that the salons debated not only Article 8 but many political and social questions from the position of women to the nature of education methods and the Arab Israeli conflict.

How long did reforms last?

By February 2001, the security heads had seen enough.  The young President must have been warned of the slippery slope nature that his promised reforms were likely to morph into.

A sudden change of heart caused such Political forums to be forcibly closed.  Seif, Riad al-Turk, Mamoun Al-Homsi, Aref Dalila, and others were arrested and charged with “attempting to change the constitution by illegal means” and “inciting racial and sectarian strife” and were sentenced by the Damascus Criminal Court to five years in jail. The other eight activists including  Walid al-Bunni, Kamal al-Labwani, and Fawwaz Tello were referred to the Supreme State Security Court which issued prison sentences between two to 10 years.

Only one salon, the Jamal al-Atassi National Dialogue Forum, was still permitted to function. The Atassi forum was finally also shut down in 2005 after a member had read a statement from the banned Syrian Muslim Brotherhood. The final red line was crossed.

Set below is a quote from that period:

“Maybe there are some economic changes, a private bank, and so on, but the laws controlling political life, freedom, they haven’t changed at all. Any time the Government wants to, it can put people in jail. We have emergency laws, special courts, illegal arrests, and the security chiefs have a say in every Government decision, including economic ones. In practice, the charges and the sentence come to the judge in the same envelope” – Mr. Anwar al-Bounni, a lawyer active in the Human Rights Association of Syria

Human journeys are akin to making constant decisions about which direction to take when one faces a fork in the road. Destinies can be decided by such decisions. Bashar al-Assad’s very own destiny may well have been decided by that choice 18 months into his leadership. The new era of freedom and reform that started with the closure of the Mezze prison was on one side of the fork. The advice of the security agencies and the regime’s hawkish elements pointed to the other side of the road. Mr. Assad sided with his security men and he was soon to order the swift closing of that Damascus Spring now more than a decade old.

Back then, there were no armed terrorists, salafis or foreign conspirators. Syria was on the cusp of potentially leading the Arab world in political reform. The activists of the time saw their young 34 year old new President as the agent of change. Had he obliged, he would have arguably been a truly generational Arab figure who would lead his young nation into political freedom and economic prosperity.

Regrettably, the other side of the fork was chosen.

Many will take issue with the above note and claim that it is too simplistic. Surely, Syria’s current predicament cannot be related to events from a decade ago many will argue. While no one can dismiss the international geopolitical dimensions of the current crisis, it is simply not credible to argue that consistent domestic political and economic failures do not lie at the heart of this tsunami engulfing this nation and its people.

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1001. Amjad said:

Tara, the mentality displayed by Irritated is the one that dictatorships and tyrannies dream of finding in their subjects. Years of being subjects and subjugated have left people like Irritated without the ability to take responsibility for their own future and wellfare. Freedom is hard, it means responsibility, something all menhebakjis deep down tremble at the thought of. Better to live life like the man with the guns tells them to.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:02 am

 

1002. Akbar Palace said:

Years of being subjects and subjugated have left people like Irritated without the ability to take responsibility for their own future and wellfare. Freedom is hard, it means responsibility, something all menhebakjis deep down tremble at the thought of.

Amjad,

IMO you’ve identified the problem. Well said. The time for blaming others is over.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:10 am

 

1003. bronco said:

#983 Tara

If what Michel Samaha is acccused of in the rumors is true, this is a much bigger blow to Bashar Al Assad than the defection of Ryad Hijab or Nawaf Fares

Its timing makes me wonder if this is not one of these spectacular event the opposition and its allies in Lebanon have scheduled to further discredit Bashar al Assad just when the Syrian army is cornering the armed rebels in Aleppo and changing the game irreversibly by setting the ground for a possible cessation of violence.

It is also quite possible that Michel Samaha has been setup and fell into a trap. I never thought that this guy was well balanced.
He was a bit unstable. I guess having participated in the massacres the maronites militia did in Lebanon during the civil war do not leave a person psychologically intact.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:30 am

 

1004. Observer said:

So let me posit as what situation we are in right now.

First and foremost, the state institutions are crumbling for the reports now show that the regular police is nearly non existent. In areas the police cannot go and impose law and order and in others they are not trusted by the regime with their weapons.
Likewise, the current prime minister and ministers are there just as props with a decreasing ability to carry their daily tasks and to manage the affairs of state. This part of the regime that has seen defections at the highest level is now being used as just a cover and the decision process has moved even more into the very inner circle of the regime

Second, the inner circle of the regime is now acting just like a warlord with reliance on local committees and thugs and recruitment from the minority to preserve the areas where control is important and has abandoned the pretense of wanting to control the country this is manifested by the fact that destruction of whole areas is now the norm where the fate of the general population is not in the cards or in the concern of the regime.

Third, the armed forces have become weaker with increasing defections and with an inability to trust the loyalty of the troops and is relying on heavier weapons. I am sure the use of training aircraft is due to the fact that it has two pilots one of which is a security agent to insure no defections. I am also seeing less helicopters and people have now sent me the names and mobile phone numbers of those pilots that have been bombarding civilians. These people may very well now realize that their names are public and their lives in jeopardy.
The inability of the regime to sweep into Salahaddin without destroying it is telling.

Fourth, the news today from RT and the lack of any Russian pronouncements for the last 10 days tells me that the Russians are distancing themselves from the regime and they are cutting their losses. Today RT had a piece about Russia threatening Iran with changing its position on the nuclear issue if the later does not withdraw a lawsuit for cancellation of an arms deal.

Fifth, Iran is scrambling to have plan B and the meeting delivered a mouse without a common declaration or anything and the Iranian are proposing a three month ceasefire probably to allow the regime to scramble from the brink as the momentum is not on its side.

Sixth, Samaha arrest and the leaked documents that he was preparing massive bombing in the north of Lebanon to implicate the presence of Al Qaeda and to ignite sectarian killings in the country and this from a regime in Lebanon that is trying very hard to keep its distance from every one and where the HA is a major player tells me that the evidence is so strong that there was no way for the security services not to act. This is an indication that the Syrian regime’s security services are in shambles and are penetrated fully.

So the situation we are in is that Fredo has become a warlord and that his Alawi community is now between a rock and a hard place and they have a very narrow window to bail out or to join in his fate. I think Ghadaffi’s fate is written on the wall in Damascus.

Finally, ZOO please spare us your sanctimonious feelings towards your fellow Syrians they have moved way beyond your cynicism and your blind faith in a lost tyranny.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:38 am

 

1005. Amjad said:

Hey guys, could someone point out one instance when Mjabali condemned Bashar’s war machine.

Now, I couldnt give two hoots what the Quran says about Jews. I dont live my life according to religious texts. The Quran says I should pray five times a day, but the only times I’ve been to a mosque was to join the protests against your feeble prethident and to swear (during Ramadan no less) at his women folk and daddy. The Quran says I shouldnt drink, and yet I like to down a few beers while in the company of some Latakian girl with low self esteem and a chest that makes Bashar’s artillery look like pee shooters.

You see, you are just as bad as the Saudi religious police who herd people into mosques and force women out of music shops. Like them, you are an intolerant bigot. Like them, you use your beliefs as a license to heap contempt on people who dont share your views. And like them, history to you is a source of eternal grievance, not a source of wisdom. Sheikh blah blah said I should carnally use some falaha? I’m not obliged to follow his rantings. That sheikh has more power over you than he does me. I am a free man, but you are a prisoner of the chains of your own hatred. And they are far stronger chains than any physical ones I can put you in. Your intolerance puts you in the company of the most hardline mutawa3. Bigotry is bigotry, whatever belief it is exercised under.

And I’m still waiting for you to tell me where I said I wanted to boil *Alawite* solders. Hard one that, right? Don’t worry, we can wait for as long as you’ve been obsessing over Ali’s succession.

A wise man once said, that your rituals aren’t what matters, what matters is if they make you a more pleasant person to interact with. I’d sooner prefer the company of a sun worshiping goat farmer who is civil, doesn’t gossip, and never cheats me when I buy goat milk, than some Western based “secuhlah” who everytime he posts here subjects us to “WHERES MY FREEEEEEEEEEENCH TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS!!!!!!”

“Just received the message that IATA has supended all ticket sales for SYRIAN ARAB AIRLINES”

About time. We all know that the Syrian Airlines office was nothing more than a front for the mukhabarat’s activities in Europe.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:38 am

 

1006. VISITOR said:

AMJAD,

You shouldn’t allow this history whiner get away with calling you idiot in Arabic (ajdab as in 849).

Does the moderator know Arabic?

This history whiner is getting away with too many vulgarities, not to mention the endless misrepresentations, misinformation and selective quoting and misquoting from others’ comments. Had it not been for the mediocrity of the topic and his character, I would rip apart his comments to shreds.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:39 am

 

1007. SC Moderator said:

Mjabali

The use of phrases such as Ya Walad, and Ya Ajdab is not acceptable and not civil. Please consider this a warning. Future use of degrading qualifiers towards posters will be a ground for banning you. Thank you for your cooperation.

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August 10th, 2012, 8:40 am

 

1008. Observer said:

Two things

Bronco is now preparing us for the narrative that Samaha is not balanced to protect the regime from the scandal.

Majbali’s use of Ya Walad is typical insult from some community in Syria.

We should have Sharif Shehadeh on this forum to entertain us in pretzel logic

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August 10th, 2012, 8:43 am

 

1009. Amjad said:

Visitor

“You shouldn’t allow this history whiner get away with calling you idiot in Arabic (ajdab as in 849).”

Well now, I don’t see that as a problem. His use of the word says more about him than it does me. He still hasn’t been able to point to where I said I wanted to boil *Alawite* soldiers. In his own mind, he has painted me as an axe wielding bearded salafi in robes, going about dismembering the infidels. Dude, I just ate a plate of kabsa, and it’s afternoon in Saudi and Ramadaaaaaan.

The “sekuhlahs” on this forum have been very unimpressive. If someone handed them the country, they wouldn’t be able to fix a broken water pipe.

So, the imitation Friends of Syria meeting in Tehran is over, with of course nothing tangible to come out of this complete waste of time. THESE http://amjadofarabia.wordpress.com/2012/08/10/true-friends-of-syria/ are the true friends of Syria.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:17 am

 

1010. Amjad said:

Another comment in the spam que. What am I doing wrong? *cry* Should I be chanting “3ashat Souria Comment Hura Abiya!”?

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August 10th, 2012, 9:19 am

 

1011. irritated said:

1000. Tara

Faced with death or torture no one really knows how one would react.
I have seen apparently strong people becoming cowards, and weak people becoming heroes. Human nature is unpredictable in front of death.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:24 am

 

1012. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

What’s so insulting about Ya Walad? It’s like calling someone “kiddo”. A bit patronizing, but insulting? …anyway

Citadel of Halab damaged. Still very impressive

.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:27 am

 

1013. Tara said:

Irritated

Very true. Face me with a single cat, and I’ll say Assad lil Abad…

I was not rhetorical though. I was honest with my sentiment.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:37 am

 

1014. zoo said:

After weeks of accusations and threats….

No proof Syria downed Turkish jet, report says

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/-no-proof-syria-downed-turkish-jet-report-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=27493&NewsCatID=359

An investigation into pieces of wreckage from a Turkish plane that was downed off the coast of Syria on June 22 has revealed no proof that the plane was shot down by Syrian forces, daily Radikal reported today

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August 10th, 2012, 9:40 am

 

1015. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Not only humans suffer in times of war
http://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/17151.shtml

So sad. Especially now when I look at the spoiled, well fed two cats that live with us.
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August 10th, 2012, 9:41 am

 

1016. irritated said:

#1012 Tara

You tend to be idealistic, it’s better than being cynical which happens to me occasionally. Keeping a balance between idealism and pragmatism is not an easy task.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:44 am

 

1017. irritated said:

1012 Tara

My reply is on hold for whatever reason…

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August 10th, 2012, 9:45 am

 

1018. Amjad said:

“Faced with death or torture no one really knows how one would react.”

For once I agree with you (end of the world soon to follow). In February, my neighborhood was in the way of the Syria army’s march into Baba Amr. I spent ten days trapped in my home. I don’t care who anyone thinks they are, NOTHING prepares you for the indiscriminate and murderous mayhem of an artillery barrage. I learned to hate the whistling sound that preceded every explosion.

On that first day, if Bashar had appeared infront of me, and told me to sign a paper surrendering the revolution and acknowledging him and his as perpetual rulers of Syria, I’d have gladly done so, just to stop the shells.

Human beings being what we are, eventually you get used to anything. One learns to automatically discount whistling sound that appears to be farther away, and tense up when the sound seems to get closer. Finally after ten days I managed to get out. I wouldnt wish the experience on anyone.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:52 am

 

1019. VISITOR said:

TARA,

The so IRRITATED half turnabout is typical behaviour when all else fails. I have already pointed that out. Duplicitousness, result of that centuries’ old cultural adage, is the skill which allows you to know when to act with guile and when to act like a cat.

………………………………

Samaha’s accusations are no longer rumours, He’s already confessed. Interestingly, Miqati and Hizbistan have opposing views on the issue.

ISF has carried out a remarkable stealth investigation with well documented evidence incriminating Samaha. He has no way to deny. We’ll hear more soon.

Definitely, it is devastating for the Nazi-like criminals occupying Damascus.

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August 10th, 2012, 9:52 am

 

1020. Tara said:

Visitor,

No Visitor. Irritated is a good guy. This is my honest opinion. I can’t explain it but I think he is genuine. I do not see duplicitousness.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:01 am

 

1021. mjabali said:

General Amjad of Arabia:

Hajji why do you lie about your own history. You went to Hajj twice according to your own words, so yes you live by the religious text.

You started attacking Warren and calling him a troll (Moderator where are you?) becauese Warren is attacking Islam and Islamist groups.

Amjad of Arabia whom are you fooling here? Your whole attitude is woven around your religious beliefs. You hate me because of my religious talk and not because of my political ideas.

About drinking beer with girls from Lattakia with low self esteem and big chests, I say good for you. You seem in need for a company. Your religious mind control is not letting you have a good time and making you stiff. You may learn from these girls some respect for others. But to tell you the truth, I think you do not drink beer and just making this up like the many thing you day after day. You are just showing how you view others in negative terms. You are a specialist in negativity.

General: you said it in plain texts numerous times that you want to boil the Alawite soldiers in their own urine. Do not run away from this. Those on this board were present when you said this over and over.

As for what the Quran that you follow said about the Jews, I asked you that since you are asking me if I would read something written by a Jew. Dude, you ran away from answering a real question again.

Speaking of bigotry: You take the cup of champions. There is no more bigoted blogger on this site than you. Look at your sentences, choice of words and attitude.

You are a General whose battle experience includes all versions versions of “Call of Duty4,” “Battlefield Bad Company2,” “Medal of Honor,” and “Gears of War.” You went to school at Grand Theft Auto University. Yes you are a general no doubt.

By the way, speaking of Ibn Taymiyah (the one that you never heard about) and his connection to what is going on today, here is a link to you in which Erdugan says that Bashar al-Assad is not a Muslim. These words by Erdugan means also that all the Alawis and Alevis in Turkey are not Muslims:

http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionID=2225&ChannelID=53358&ArticleID=849

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August 10th, 2012, 10:18 am

 

1022. Amjad said:

“Irritated is a good guy.”

SACRILEGE!!!!!!!!! WE MUST PASS A FATWA ON TARA!!!!!!!

🙂

Heheh, all this crap and BS about Al-Qaeda taking over Syria, and yet people forget that the regime and its supporters openly wave the Hizbollah flag.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:19 am

 

1023. irritated said:

1018. VISITOR

Thanks for the compliment about my “cultural adage acquired” skill. I guess it better than to always act as a snake.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:22 am

 

1024. Amjad said:

Hehehe, Mjabali is so obsessed with me, he follows me to 7etayn but posts under a different name. Keefak akhi. Akhi, just because a guy went on Hajj when he was young, doesn’t make him a hard core salafi. Why should I lie about my beliefs? Do you think your opinion of me or anything is so highly regarded that I’d hide my core beliefs for your sake? What an arrogant self righteous little brat.

Moderator, unless this individual who this time is calling himself Mjabali shows us the link where I said I wanted to boil Alawite soldiers, I will not put up with his continued and unsubstantiated slurs, and I will expect them to be edited out. I have given him chance after chance to show us the comments where I said so, and he has failed to do so, therefore his slurs will no longer be tolerated.

People, when I used to post on OTW’s 7eetayn, there was a commentator with the same mindset as the epic whiner. He went by another name then, and is too chicken to admit it. My God, the first thing he does on a Saturday morning is look for my posts. He probably thinks I’m the reincarnation of some of those sheikhs he’s so obsessed about.

Mjababli is a guy who spends his waking hours, dreaming of going back in time, sword in hand, and avenging Ali and his sons and all the perceived wrongs done to Shias and Alawites over the course of 1400 years. These people cannot plan for the future, they are prisoners of the past. The dead hand of history imprisons them more strongly than any so called Al-Qaeda salafi group can. Freedom is not just about being out of prison, it is also freedom from age old hatreds of others.

‘These words by Erdugan means also that all the Alawis and Alevis in Turkey are not Muslims:”

And thus we are given a clue as to how the “secuhlah” mind of Mjabali works. How in the name of a cactus plant do you interpret Erdugan’s words to mean that Alevis and Alawites are not Muslim? What a sick and disgraceful distortion of the man’s words. See why you can’t be trusted with the smallest facts of history? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you apparently seem to think you are entitled to your own facts. No wonder your an obsessed epic whiner.

“You are a General whose battle experience includes all versions versions of “Call of Duty4,” “Battlefield Bad Company2,” “Medal of Honor,” and “Gears of War.” ”

Dude, you’re more familiar with the games people play than I am. Besides a bit of Civilization, I’m not so obsessed as you are with games. Why don’t you write your own game? “Terminator:Fixing the True Caliphate Succession”. Go back in time with a double pointed sword and slay all those historical figures that are keeping you up at night 🙂

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August 10th, 2012, 10:26 am

 

1025. mjabali said:

Moderator:

It is obvious that you are one of those commenting on this blog, and which side you are on.

Dr. Landis should not let this happen.

Moderators should not be able to comment while doing their moderation job. They should be neutral.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:29 am

 

1026. zoo said:

The strategy of the FSA is accumulating more humiliating ‘tactical’ retreats. Isn’t time to change it?

FSA promises “counter-attack” following “tactical withdrawal” from Salaheddin

10/08/2012
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=30650

By Paula Astatih
Beirut, Asharq Al-Awsat – Information from within Syria indicates that the opposition Free Syrian Army [FSA] has carried out a “tactical withdrawal” from Aleppo’s Salaheddin district, in the face of overwhelming pressure from the al-Assad regime’s forces. However FSA commanders on the ground have stressed that this “withdrawal” is taking place within the framework of the opposition’s focus on nation-wide “hit and run” attacks and that a counter-attack will be launched in Aleppo.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:36 am

 

1027. amjad said:

Similarities between the religious police of Saudi Arabia and the “secuhlah” Baathists of Mjabali;

In Saudi, you get into trouble for not going to the mosque during prayer time and you’re in a public space. In Syria, they put you in jail for not going out to a Baathist demonstration.

In Saudi, porn websites are blocked. In the “secuhlah” Syria, Amazon is blocked.

In Saudi, governance of the country is kept within the family. In “secuhlah” Syria, governance of the country is kept within the family.

In Saudi, “foreign influences” are always apparently trying to “contaminate” the purity of society. Ditto “secuhlah” Syria.

See Mjabali, you and the mutawas have much in common. Well done.

#1025 Stop whining for a moment, if you can. You broke the rules, you were reprimanded. Take your punishment like a big boy. Geesh. Now the secuhlahs want to dictate who can moderate or not. Disgusting.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:40 am

 

1028. mjabali said:

General Amjad of Arabia:

When I have time I will go back and dig up your comments about boiling the soldiers in urine.

Everyone on this blog who has been here from the beginning of events have seen that and argued with you about it. Do not run away from your own words.

I do not post in Walls. I never did. I went few times to read. I never posted there one single sentence.

What I found at Walls the blog was you fighting with other bloggers right and left. Same bullying, and same attitude. Do you have any friends there dude? Check your attitude on Walls the blog and come talk to me.

You posted here on Syria Comment under different names. This is a fact.

Unlike you, I have a real hard job, while you spend your days and nights online writing under different names.

AS for your broken record about me being obsessed with what happened to Ali ibn Abi Taleb and carrying a sword: I say that I am a man of peace, always been and always will be, never called for war, revenge or anything related to the horrible violent past.

Swords are carried by those calling for blood.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:42 am

 

1029. ann said:

Fighting continues Friday across Syria, mainly Aleppo – 2012-08-10

DAMASCUS, Aug. 10 (Xinhua) — Fighting continued Friday across Syria as the government army boasted that it rooted out armed insurgents in a number of areas, mainly in the northern province of Aleppo.

The Syrian TV said the army has thwarted an attack by the armed groups, which have tried to attack the international airport of Aleppo Friday.

Meanwhile, the state-run SANA news agency said the Syrian armed forces cleaned Akyoul and Qadi Askar roundabouts in Aleppo from ” terrorists.”

It said units of the armed forces chased “armed terrorist groups” in al-Iza’a and Saif al-Dawleh neighborhoods in Aleppo, killing and wounding many of them.

The Syrian government has branded the rebels as “terrorists”, claiming that the 17-month-old unrest is a result of a conspiracy with dire consequences.

Meanwhile, SANA said the authorities in Homs defused Friday a 250 kg car bomb, adding that a person was found tied up in the car and later turned out to be one of the people who were kidnapped recently by armed groups.

Also in Homs, SANA said the authorities carried out a qualitative operation in Bab Hood neighborhood, killing a number of “terrorists” who holed up in al-Mohandiseen Building.

In the central province of Hama, the military engineering units dismantled two 20-kg explosive devices planted by an armed group in Gharb al-Mashtal neighborhood, said SANA.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-08/10/c_131776931.htm

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August 10th, 2012, 10:42 am

 

1030. zoo said:

Meanwhile, the Lebanese NBN TV said the Syrian troops on Friday ringed Aleppo from all sides, cutting the supply lines from Turkey to the armed insurgents.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-08/10/c_131776894.htm

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August 10th, 2012, 10:47 am

 

1031. VISITOR said:

AMJAD,

Where did you get that “secuhlah” term from?
Does the prethident really have a problem with “r” too? If you ask a Saudi mutawi’h, he’ll tell you it is a real bad bad bad sign

Man, I miss those Kabsah’s.

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IRRITATED,

This is a skill (duplicitoussness) that no one would ever wish to acquire. But for a menhebek it is better than no skill at all, I guess.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:48 am

 

1032. Tara said:

Mjabali

I think your whining about the mod is becoming annoying. Men should not whine. Address your concern to JL if you are not comfortable. You also have the option of leaving in protest ( and of course coming back with a new name). This is as you know at will site. Enough whines. Sorry to be blunt again.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:49 am

 

1033. Amjad said:

“I do not post in Walls. I never did”

And I call you an outright liar. I warned OTW long before that you were there to do nothing but stir up trouble, and it was very satisfying to see you slink off, chastised.

“You posted here on Syria Comment under different names”

I posted under another name way back in 2011, which I did not deny for a moment. If you think I posted under more, then that is your own sick overactive imagination at work. All I can do is be smugly satisfied that I have the power to torment you, even when I’m not around.

“When I have time I will go back and dig up your comments about boiling the soldiers in urine. ”

Stop twisting your own words, you disgusting little brat. You said *Alawite* soldiers. Show me where I said I wanted to boil Alawite soldiers, or forever shut your dirty little mouth with your insinuations. Stop backing down when you are caught out in your filthy lies. Squirm all you want, but what is said on the Internet lives forever. You are sickening in the way you cowardly try to squirm out of your own statements.

“Where did you get that “secuhlah” term from?”

Hehe, kinda seemed appropriate to emulate Bush’s way of saying “nuclear”, considering I’m dealing with someone who makes the village idiot look like a rocket scientist.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:51 am

 

1034. Amjad said:

“I do not post in Walls. I never did”

And I call you an outright liar. I warned OTW long before that you were there to do nothing but stir up trouble, and it was very satisfying to see you slink off, chastised.

“You posted here on Syria Comment under different names”

I posted under another name way back in 2011, which I do not deny for a moment. If you think I posted under more, then that is your own sick overactive imagination at work. All I can do is be smugly satisfied that I have the power to torment you, even when I’m not around. Please, enlighten us, tell me what other names your ridiculous imagination thinks I’ve posted under.

“When I have time I will go back and dig up your comments about boiling the soldiers in urine. ”

Stop twisting your own words, you disgusting little brat. You said *Alawite* soldiers. Show me where I said I wanted to boil Alawite soldiers, or forever shut your dirty little mouth with your insinuations. Stop backing down when you are caught out in your filthy lies. Squirm all you want, but what is said on the Internet lives forever. You are sickening in the way you cowardly try to squirm out of your own statements.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:54 am

 

1035. Amjad said:

Visitor

“Where did you get that “secuhlah” term from?”

Hehe, seemed appropriate to emulate Bush’s way of saying “nuclear”, seeing as how I’m responding to someone who makes a village fool look like Stephen Hawking. Seriously guys, anytime anyone criticizes Bashar, that must mean that in their heart of hearts, they don’t consider Alawites as Muslim. I’m amazed Mjabawaaaaaaaaaa didn’t claim that they put on white hoods in Baba Amr.

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August 10th, 2012, 10:58 am

 

1036. Amjad said:

Let’s have a serious discussion. Here is a comparison between how many women athletes Syria sent, and how many the GCC sent

http://amjadofarabia.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/gulf-women-athletes/

And it doesnt look too good for Syria.

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August 10th, 2012, 11:09 am

 

1037. Amjad said:

Mjabali

“What I found at Walls the blog was you fighting with other bloggers right and left. Same bullying, and same attitude. Do you have any friends there dude? ”

Now I’ve got you, and there is no way you are squirming out of this one. You’ve given me the means to totally show you up for the fact-distorting person you are.

Since you took the effort to remember that I went on Hajj twice (something which really offended you back on 7eetayn ya secular inta), you will remember why I had a falling out with OTW on 7eetayn. It was because I praised Daniel Pipes.

Sho akhi? What’s the matter? How can a hardcore salafi actually praise a man like Daniel Pipes? I can’t wait for your twisted attempt at explaining this one.

Your pathetic need to paint me as a wahabi-religious-nut is nothing more than a sad reflection of your own inner sense of insecurity. One gets the feeling you would scream and yell at your own shadow and call it a Shiaa-killer if there was no one else around 🙂

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August 10th, 2012, 11:14 am

 

1038. Syrialover said:

Observer #1004

Good read. I enjoy such situational reports. Thanks.

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August 10th, 2012, 3:54 pm

 

1039. omen said:

1037. what could possibly be praiseworthy about daniel pipes?

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August 10th, 2012, 5:39 pm

 

1040. omen said:

963. TARA: But both the Phalangist Party and the Lebanese Forces are now firmly in the anti-Syrian camp, while Mr Samaha has retained his friendship and ties with the Syrian regime.

does this mean that it’ll be easier to smuggle arms to syria from northern lebanon?

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August 10th, 2012, 6:24 pm

 

1041. omen said:

963. tara:
both the Phalangist Party and the Lebanese Forces are now firmly in the anti-Syrian camp, while Mr Samaha has …ties with the Syrian regime.

does this mean it will be easier to smuggle arms to syria from northern lebanon?

p.s. is getting caught in the net sign of disapproval?

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August 10th, 2012, 6:27 pm

 

1042. omen said:

sorry for whining!

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August 11th, 2012, 12:41 am

 

1043. Taleb said:

The US and it’s allies the Saudi’s, Turkey, Qatar, France, Egypt, Israel and the rest failed dramatically in attracting any Syrian intellectuals to their proxy war against China, Russia and their allies in Syria! That is why they settled again on Al-Qaeda as they did in Afghanistan ! However, Syria is in the back yard of Europe and it’s geopolitical location is much more dangerous, this is why it will not take Al-Qaeda another 20 years to score another 9/11!! It will be imminent! Those who have been planning a contained regional Sunni-shia muslim war to implement Oil for weapons programs similar to the inhumane Oil for food one, and who own alleys in both the US and Russia, are taking the world’s civilization into a disaster. It is time for wisdom to prevail on greed for once, before it is too late!

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August 14th, 2012, 3:10 am

 

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