Does the US Getting into a Fight with Syria Help the Syrian Opposition or the Regime?

“Bashar al-Assad is not indispensable and the United States has no interest in his regime staying in power,” US Secretary of State Hillary stated on Monday after Syrian crowds pelted the Damascus Embassy with stones, calling Ambassador Ford a “dog.”

A Syrian policeman walks in front of the damaged U.S. Embassy compound on July 11 after pro-government protesters stormed the facilities in Damascus.

While Clinton turned up the rhetorical head a notch, President Assad must taken satisfaction in the dust up with the great conspirator. From the outset of the uprising four months ago, the Syrian regime has been accusing Washington of orchestrating its troubles. According to reports from Syria, the pro-regime public has been galvanized by Ambassador Fords actions in Hama. They see it a proof that the US is acting as the puppeteer and takes an active role in the uprising. His trip to Hama to demonstrate US support for the demonstrations was the sort of provocation, Damascus authorities had been waiting for.  Now it is a US-Syrian confrontation. World news programs have ramped up their coverage that had been flagging. I cannot tell you how many calls I received today compared to the last week of comparative quiet.

What is unclear is whether the Syrian opposition will gain from this controversy. Will the increased international news coverage and augmented US role in this Syrian drama prove to be a boon for the opposition? Will it make up for any damage the opposition suffers from local accusations that it is but a spearhead of a vast imperialist-Zionist conspiracy?

Certainly, Ford’s credibility is restored in Washington. Even Republicans will have to laud him as a local hero. Only yesterday they branded him an Assad propaganda tool. The State Department will also look good. But are these antics helping the Syrian opposition or Assad? Answer the poll in the upper left hand corner of this page.

Pro-Assad demonstrators in front of the US embassy in Damascus

Wash Post – Liz Sly

DAMASCUS, Syria — Supporters of the Syrian government pelted the U.S. embassy with rocks, smashed windows and raised their national flag in place of the American one on Monday, a day after the U.S. ambassador here delivered an extraordinary rebuke to the Syrian government on Facebook….

A U.S. embassy official said about 10 of the protesters broke into the embassy compound and destroyed the main entrance. Three of them climbed onto the roof. No embassy staffers were hurt. Syrian government supporters smashed windows at the U.S. Embassy in Damascus, raised a Syrian flag and scrawled graffiti calling the American ambassador a “dog” in anger over the envoy’s visit to an opposition stronghold, witnesses said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, accused the Syrian government of facilitating the attack and of being slow to respond after the embassy appealed for help….

News Round Up

The Syrian Revolution and the Unofficial Cast System By Mu’taz

…Owning a foreign maid is perceived to be as prestigious as owning a Hummer or a fancy home. …. What is disturbing about the revival of this discrimination is its association with the growth of the economical disparity between the rich and the poor. Moreover, this renewed discrimination is growing in spite of the improvement in  education level and unprecedented communication with the rest of the free world.  What is interesting is that people who were  victims of discrimination in the past became victimizers. The Alawites moved up in the ranks and joined the elite class.  The wealthy upper class in Damascus and Aleppo solidified their first class status with the help of Bashar Assad. He was appreciated compared with his father who didn’t have the best relations with merchants at the beginning of his presidency.  Now it is the people of Houran and the rural areas who constitute the new second class……

FIVE QUESTIONS For David Lesch: How The Stalemate In Syria Will Finally Break Down – Business Insider [This is smart]

Syria expert talks U.S. strategy, reform, and regime schizophrenia.

Meir Javedanfar The competition between Iran and Turkey over influence in Syria.
Despite close relations, both Ankara and Tehran have found themselves pulling in different directions in Damascus.

Damascus Vibrations: How Iraqis view the Syrian Uprising,  Jul 02, 2011
By Sami Moubayed

For a variety of overlapping reasons, the situation in Syria is very alarming to Iraqis from every end of the political spectrum.

For starters, approximately 1 million Iraqis currently live in Syria, all of whom fled the mayhem in their country in 2003. They are worried that if security breaks down in Syria, or if the state can no longer accommodate them, they would have to unwillingly return home – where a very uncertain future awaits them.

A country that now has refugees on the border with Turkey will have a hard time absorbing refugees on its own territories – and certainly not Iraqi refugees.

Iraqi Christians living in Syria are particularly afraid of the sectarian rhetoric emerging from radical groups inside Syria. They fled their country precisely because they were targeted by radical Islamic groups and are worried that a similar scenario could be repeated in Syria.

Iraqi Ba’athists are also worried about the status of the Ba’ath Party in Syria. Demonstrators have been on the streets throughout rural Syria and in many towns within its interior, demanding an end to one-party rule and cancelation of Article 8 of the Syrian constitution, which designates the Ba’ath as “leader of state and society”.

These Iraqi Ba’athists are still very much committed to Ba’ath Party rule and they are horrified by the fact that perhaps soon, Ba’ath Party supremacy will end in a country that gave birth to their doctrine back in 1947. Ba’athist Syria welcomed them with open arms in 2003, but that wouldn’t necessarily apply to a country in which the Ba’ath no longer has the upper hand.

Hardline Iraqi Shi’ites are also alarmed, seeing the demonstrations on the Syrian street as part of a Western-engineered “conspiracy” aimed at punishing Syria for its alliance with Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon. They are very worried that if the regime collapses in Syria, or is reformed beyond recognition, then this would spell out a slow breakdown in the Syrian-Iranian-Hezbollah trio that has dominated the Arab world for more than 10 years.

That alliance was a source of inspiration to radical Iraqi groups like the Mehdi Army, whose leader Muqtada al-Sadr often looked towards Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah for leadership and guidance, enjoying excellent relations with the Syrians. They fear the rise of radical Sunni groups within Syria, like the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, would certainly work to obstruct what its leaders have often described as a “Shi’ite crescent” linking Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.

As far as they are concerned, the Brotherhood, through an alliance with Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is now coordinating with the West over how to end to Iranian influence in the Arab world. The believe this is why Erdogan began dialogue with Hamas in Palestine back in 2004 – to counterbalance the influence of Hezbollah in the eyes of Muslim Sunnis around the world.

If the Brotherhood is empowered by whatever scenario unfolds in Syria, then this would have immediate vibrations in Iraq among groups allied to Sunni Islamic groups, like the Iraqi Accordance Front and the Iraqi Islamic Party, being the Iraqi branch of the Brotherhood.

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - France’s defense minister said it was time for Libya’s rebels to negotiate with Muammar Gaddafi’s government, signaling growing impatience with progress in the conflict.

In Iran, sanctions aim at shipping lifeline (Washington Post)

TEHRAN — On June 30, the Danish shipping giant Maersk startled Iran’s trade officials by abruptly pulling out of the country’s three largest ports. Company officials said little about the decision, but the timing was striking: A week earlier, the Obama administration had declared the ports’ operator to be an arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps, a group linked to terrorism and weapons trafficking. Other shipping companies followed suit, and soon Iran was scrambling to find alternative ways to import food and other critical supplies. Now Iranian officials are warning of economic pain in the months ahead — precisely the effect that U.S. officials were hoping for.

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151. Majed97 said:

Let’s not kid ourselves; corruption is a cultural problem in Syria, and throughout the Middle East, regardless of who is in power. To blame it on the government only is rather naive.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:03 pm

 

152. Amnesia said:

Passing the blame to culture doesn’t satisfy me. Every country has the tendency to be corrupt, but some have learned to largely solve it.

It’s not an Arab problem.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:12 pm

 

153. majedkhaldoon said:

Abughassan said there will be good news in the next few days, it seems that bashar will declare his candidncy for another term begining 2012.
It is impossible that someone go from one extreme to the other extreme, going from severe opression to freedom and democracy,is impossible.
I agree that bashar should change his name from assad to******,he is so afraid .

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July 12th, 2011, 3:32 pm

 

154. Tara said:

Amnesia and all,

Talking about culture and away from politics. The article above mentioned owning foreign maid in Syria perceived to be prestigious and went on to discuss disparity between the poor and the rich enforced in the author view by the regime.

Let’s forget the regime for a second, I find the phenomena of ” owning a foreign maid in Syria” to be quite disturbing. I refuse to blame the regime for this. It strikes me when you go out to eat in a restaurant in Bloudan on Friday how there is a foreign maid at the end of the table. The foreign maids never sit near the family. There are always few seats separating the family and the maid to indicate what? Superiority? I find it extremely appalling phenomena and I am strongly against it. I do not think some Syrians respect the human rights of others who they perceived to be “less” . Am I wrong?

Yazan, I would like an opinion on this from you.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:36 pm

 

155. jad said:

Amnesia
You are asking a very difficult subject to be able to tackle in a comment or even a book.
Corruption exist everywhere and in all levels of any government, be it the US or Somalia, and fighting it depends on policies, culture and affordability balance between the salary any citizen make and the coast of living.
It can’t be solved in one month or one year it takes longer than that and it needs observation, evaluation and transparency between all government offices, you can reduce it to the minimum on the public lower level however it will be difficult to tackle when you go to the higher level since relations, economy and politics are the rulers.
You can check Bogota, Columbia example of how they tried to improve their city and the corruption they got there…it’s possible and it needs will, time and commitment by all of us.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:41 pm

 

156. Amnesia said:

Tara,

I have never had a maid, but I know families that do. My father and grandfather probably disliked the idea. Your point is correct of course.

If you were to have a maid, or if I were to have a worker at home, they should be clothed as we are clothed, eat as we eat, be comfortable as we are comfortable, and be treated as people close to us. This can of course be taken a lot further. We can provide education, other opportunities, etc.

I wish more Muslims would learn what Islam really teaches.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:48 pm

 

157. Amnesia said:

Thank you JAD.

“Corruption exist everywhere and in all levels of any government, be it the US or Somalia, and fighting it depends on policies, culture and affordability balance between the salary any citizen make and the coast of living.”

I know it’s a big topic, but I wanted to hear everyone’s thoughts about it in Syria. It is a better topic of discussion than a lot of what I’ve been reading here recently.

Salaries and costs of living are important of course, and this needs to be studied carefully. Vast changes are also needed.

If I remember correctly, Georgia acquired funding a few years ago, and sacked their entire police force. They used the funding to pay better salaries to new officers, and to transition the old ones. I can imagine how difficult a decision that must’ve been in Georgia, where civilians fought battles with the Russian military not too long ago. Importantly, they did succeed.

This is why I first asked a more specific question, as to how many officers and officials are ultimately loyal to personal greed rather than country.

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July 12th, 2011, 3:56 pm

 

158. Jad said:

Amnesia,
In Bogota, they didn’t have funding as in your example of Georgia, they had to depend on their own so they looked around and discovered that Army employers are less corrupted than the city police so they replace all their police officers with Army as a transition period before cleaning the office in the city.
I’m not sure if Syria can try that or better if the government is serious about the clean up process, Syria is full of honest, honoured and great clean people that they can use without an outside funding.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:09 pm

 

159. majedkhaldoon said:

I was last january in AlQaryeh Alfaroonieh,in Sabboura, i was with my wife and my son, my son is 6’4″, we were eating there, a man with his wife ,sisters and a maid who seems from Philipine, carrying his child, they sat around a table which was next to us, after 20 minutes,the man started to yell at the maid,who sat across the table from him, she was looking at him so scared,her eyes never moved,she did not say any thing, he kept yelling at her for 15 minutes,with loud voice everyone there was looking at him, my son stood up, my wife rushed to pull him down, scared what he would do to that man, I wispered to my son please we are not in USA,we had hard time stopping him from going there and beat the hell of that man.
The abuse of maid in Syria is so common, I am sure all has heared what Samer Al Masri has done to his maid,there should be a law to prevent that,we felt so sorry for that maid,and talked to many people about it, I will never forget it.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:09 pm

 

160. Tara said:

Amnesia,

It is my deepest desire to be part of humility Arab spring. As much as I support freedom and dignity, I want to support a revolution of humility in the Arab society.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:15 pm

 

161. daleandersen said:

Memo To: JAD

RE: “…Corruption exists everywhere and in all levels of any government…”

Exactly. And anyone who sets out to fight corruption is a fool. You might as well try to outlaw human greed. Can’t be done.

Bashar’s problem isn’t that he and his mafia are corrupt. They are, but as you said, so is everyone else. His problem is, he has no sense of “the times.” As in, it’s time for him to leave and he won’t go.

And that is why he’s a dead man walking…

http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/06/brubecks-take-five-pakistani-style.html

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July 12th, 2011, 4:15 pm

 

162. democracynow said:

From the closing statement of the ‘consultative meeting’ between the regime and the fake opposition:

“Liberating the Golan height is considered among the essential issues and one of the national objectives that enjoys a complete consensus among Syrians”

Ah, OK. If the matter of liberating the Golan enjoys a consensus (like, are there Syrians, apart from the regime, who don’t wish to see the Golan liberated?) then why is it mentioned in the closing statement of a meeting that was supposed to discuss disputed issues? Matters related to the crisis?

Doesn’t the regime get suffocated with the stick of its own rotten self? Seriously, the regime whines day and night about foreign intervention and all it’s been doing for now is putting on a show for THE FOREIGN nation’s sake. Make no mistake about it, the reference to Golan is meant for Israel and US, again. Something similar to flare-up the regime staged near the disengagement line in Golan on May 15 and June the 5th. This is an escalation in rhetoric no doubt added in haste to the statement today in order to counter Clinton’s statements of yesterday.

The regime itself had opted to negotiate for the return of Golan peacefully more than twenty years ago. It’d failed to make any progress there. It’d failed to improve Syrian military capabilities to stand up to Israel in any way. And now the regime wants to combine this failure with its failures to provide a bare minimum of freedoms to its citizen. How pathetic.

Akh 3aleek ya ibn balady. You were meant to live under dictatorship and corruption and have your land occupied at the same time. Now, all of the sudden, they want to liberate it. It’s not enough to trade the blood of today’s martyr; they want to play past sacrifices like a card.

And they still have the nerve to come out and speak of no intervention.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:16 pm

 

163. Jad said:

د.شعبان:لا واشنطن ولا غيرها تمنح الشرعية أو تنزعها

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July 12th, 2011, 4:22 pm

 

164. Amnesia said:

Tara said: “I want to support a revolution of humility in the Arab society.”

Humility and a lot of hard work. Everyone needs this.

JAD, good thoughts.

DALEANDERSEN said, “And anyone who sets out to fight corruption is a fool. You might as well try to outlaw human greed. Can’t be done.”

Sorry, but wrong. Every country with this mindset, never achieves anything. Study up.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:26 pm

 

165. HS said:

About corruption and US visa

1) # 146

The best recent example of a country overcoming corruption comes from a country called Georgia

For sure , the interviewer in Georgia was bribed to fabricate a good report.

2) # 106

Perhaps some of the attackers on the two embassies saw this as an opportunity to vent their anger for being refused an entry visa in the past!

A trusted story from an articulate Syrian businessman.

He and his wife went to visit some Canadian friends in Canada with Canadian visas.
They decided to visit a very scenic landmark at the US Canada border.
At one time , he thought that he could get better pictures from the US side.
So he went to the US border gate and started to talk to the security officer in order to get access to the US side for a few minutes alone just to take his pictures.
At first the US officer said it was not possible without a visa but the Syrian insisted politely and nicely “the Syrian way”.
Finally , the officer asked for his passport , logged on his computer and put a stamp on his passport.
The Syrian got his passport back and looked at the red stamped mention :
” Entry permanently denied”

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July 12th, 2011, 4:32 pm

 

166. Tara said:

Majedkhaldoon,

Exactly! Walking in Bloudan, I try to turn my head the other way to avoid seeing this. We have a lot of illnesses in our society that we can only blame on ourselves. Look at some Syrians gatherings in the west. Do they not compete on who drive the most expensive car or who wear the most expensive mink ( for girls that is)?. Some of us took this pseudo pride with them every where they go to. We do need a revolution for humility.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:36 pm

 

167. jad said:

البيان الختامي: الحوار هو الطريق الوحيد لانهاء الأزمة

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July 12th, 2011, 4:45 pm

 

168. Aboud said:

@165 It is not within the power of a border guard to permanently deny anyone entry into the USA. If your friend was denied entry, that was already the case in the system. Ask your friend what he did.

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July 12th, 2011, 4:52 pm

 

169. HS said:

In Syria , the employment of a Filipino maid is a “tradition” imported recently by the Syrian expats in the Gulf Countries.( and others vacationing in Syria )

Why not a Syrian maid ?

A Filipino maid is supposed to speak English and to not understand Arabic.
A Filipino ( even educated ) prefers to work for a salary in a developed Gulf country than to stay idle in her poor peasant village.
A Filipino maid is not a Muslim – brainwashed by the MBs – who cannot stay alone in the same room with a man ( not DSK ! )

Note: Filipino is a generic term

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July 12th, 2011, 5:04 pm

 

170. Aboud said:

Clarification on @168. A border guard can deny entry, but not “permanently”. It goes on your record that you were denied entry, that’s all.

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July 12th, 2011, 5:14 pm

 

171. HS said:

Aboud
# 168

It is not within the power of a border guard to permanently deny anyone entry into the USA. If your friend was denied entry, that was already the case in the system. Ask your friend what he did.

Never asked for a US visa before.
He was unknown in the system. ( The officer told him he has to create his record and asked for his passport )
He never went to the US after this story.

For the reason of the “PERMANENTLY entry denied” , ask your American friends or find by yourself :
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/757/~/friend,-relative,-etc.-denied-entry-to-the-u.s.

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July 12th, 2011, 5:37 pm

 

172. Aboud said:

@171 The link you posted talks about circumstances where a person may be denied entry into the USA (nothing whatsoever about being barred permanently)

To have “denied entry permanently” on your passport is pretty serious stuff. It just doesn’t happen the way your friend described it.

Once more, urban legends being passed off as facts….

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July 12th, 2011, 5:53 pm

 

173. louai said:

Jad 109 ,as always, very noble .

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July 12th, 2011, 6:08 pm

 

174. louai said:

SYR.Expat 141

That was a respond to Amnesia’s claim that there is no killing when the security forces are not around, when you want to criticize a logic use logic please, if you have a constructive argument I am happy to engage in a chat with you and you may change my mind,I am open minded, if you want only to criticize for the sake of criticism so forgive it I am not here to ‘debate’ with any one.
In all the Kurds demonstrations we had both security forces and demonstrators, we didn’t loose any Syrian, why?

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July 12th, 2011, 6:09 pm

 

175. louai said:

Amnesia 75

in my opinion, The rules of the law is the answer

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July 12th, 2011, 6:11 pm

 

176. Aboud said:

@174 Because the regime knows better than to get the Kurds inflamed. Your “exception” just proves the rule; the security forces *can* be reigned in when ordered to do so. It is also the reason why Aleppo has had such relatively few deaths.

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July 12th, 2011, 6:27 pm

 

177. Tara said:

Dear Jad,

I commend you on # 109. I like it. But I have a question for you:

Can you make up your mind in regard to my status? Am I true or fake Syrian? Thank you

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July 12th, 2011, 7:02 pm

 

178. louai said:

@176 , then we agree that \’the regime\’ has no benefit of any casualties as this will only inflame the protestors, the Hamwis and other Syrians care the same way about their dead loved ones as the Kurds do , we saw the biggest demonstrations in Homs when the martyrs were tribal members ,the president ordered the security forces not to shoot because he knew better ,the more people die the more people will demonstrate ,now i am not saying that i know for fact the security forces did not shoot at demonstrators ,i would be fooling my self if i think so , what i am saying is they were in many cases provoked to do so .in Homs there is every day demonstrations (according to you) why there is no casualties every day?
‘the regime’ is not an angel but it has no benefit of killing people .

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July 12th, 2011, 7:19 pm

 

179. jad said:

Dear Tara
Did I wrote in any of my comments directed to you personally ‘Tara is a fake Syrian’? the only time I questioned your background is when you mentioned the ‘crush’ story, that’s the only incident I can remember where I wasn’t convince of your citizenship, other than that I was trying not to get into any argument with you and to give you your space to discover this world of Syria Comment as you requested.

Honestly, I don’t really know where you are from and it’s not my business, if you say that you are Syrian then you are more than welcome, if you denounce your citizenship or your city, it’s your own issue and I have no business in your choice, it will never be mine to decide or judge, but regardless of that I did include you in my comment as a SYRIAN.

With all honesty and with the highest respect to you as a person, my impression of Tara is that it has lots of controversial issues which makes her a bit difficult to deal with, to understand and to take her as simple as she present herself:
1-From her first comment she started a little bit off that gave her audience the wrong impression (I’m mentioning that not to make you feel bad, it’s purely to make you aware of the situation that brought you to SC)
2-She asks lots of basic questions that she can find the answers by searching the net
3-She is a bit ‘questionable’ with her personal story that may give the impression of a make up stories which may not be the case (try not to share too much personal stories or information)
4-She doesn’t know how to deal with Syria Comment’s crowds (because as she wrote she never been to any blog before) so she comes out a bit odd.
5- Your English is way too good for a Syrian living in Syria.

I have nothing against Tara or anybody else on this forum, I may not like some people’s characters but that is my problem not theirs to deal with and I’m NOBODY of importance, I’m an average Syrian citizen with a heart who happened to care too much for his country and his own brothers and sisters that can’t keep his mouth shut seeing all this tragedies happening to them and to his homeland, and I think all of the Syrians on here regardless of where they stand politically have the same feelings of mine but we are ignoring those feelings that make us closer and keep concentrating on our differences that will lead us nowhere. And it happened that I only believe in reason and logic hence anything illogical will immediately trigger my questioning mode and make me reject it.

In short, Tara, ignore me if you want or say hi or write wherever you feel of, I’m here for no other reason than yours; trying to understand my homeland and to be optimistic even in the middle of all this darkness because I have no other choice.

P.S.
I apologize in advance if any word I wrote hurt your feeling or came out too strong, but be sure that it wasn’t and will never be my intention to hurt the feeling of you or anybody else.

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July 12th, 2011, 7:53 pm

 

180. Aboud said:

“‘the regime’ is not an angel but it has no benefit of killing people .”

You know that, I know that, but the problem is that the regime itself doesn’t know that. When our brother Kurds come out in the numbers we saw in Dara, Dayr el Zur, Telkelakh, and Hama, then they might find the regime not so benevolent.

“in Homs there is every day demonstrations (according to you) why there is no casualties every day?”

Not demonstrations during the day, there are nightly demonstrations everyday (er, night I mean). They are short, last about an hour, and disperse by themselves. Just a way of the demonstrators letting the regime know that they are still there and pumped up.

When do the security forces get trigger happy? You said “what i am saying is they were in many cases provoked to do so”

Just once, I wish the security forces would bring along some cameras and take pictures of these supposed armed groups that are supposed to be shooting at them. I know *for a fact* that the security forces start firing when demonstrations try to link up together and press towards the New Clock. The regime will gladly kill 20 Homsis a Friday than have a repeat of the sit in that happened in April.

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July 12th, 2011, 8:06 pm

 

181. Husam said:

Tara Said:

“Can you make up your mind on my status, am I true fake-syrian?”

Tara, are you kidding? You don’t need anyone’s approval! Even if you are not Syrian 100%, if you find Syria interesting or want to discuss Syria, you don’t have to justify it. If Akhra Palace, AIG, Amir in Tel Aviv, whom I believe are from Israel or the US, can comment, so can you. Friendly reminder: not everyone here will respond and some will question your love for your country or your beliefs/religion, etc.. because they want to pre-emptively shut you up due to their own insecurities and agenda.

Majed and all:

I hear what you are saying about how some (ok, most) treat their maids. I thought I may tell you the other side of the story. One side of my family, a maid was hired by my mother to help her ailing sister. When she died, the maid cried more than my own family because she missed her so much. The maid was not treated like royalty, but she was treated like equal and with utmost respect. The rest of the family miss her dearly.

While at dinner in the same spot as Majed 2 years ago in Sabourah (invitation from another side of my family), I sat next to 2 phillipino girls on the same table and they ate and ordered exactly what we ate. After dinner they sat at a different table to look after and play with the kids (part of their job to baby sit) while we had private matters to discuss.

Perhaps both sides of family interpreted the correct Islamic responsibility and duty on them as “Maid Employers”. We are not all hopeless cases.
Cheers
P.S. I am all for labour laws including foreign maids.

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July 12th, 2011, 8:12 pm

 

182. Husam said:

Tara:

One more thing, don’t change who you are or what/how you comment on just to please another Syrian and “to fit-in.” Everyone has their style, and, actually from the few posts I read of yours, I don’t mind the personal details.

I know this platform feels like fraternity, but be Tara, Sara, or Khadija for that matter.

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July 12th, 2011, 8:29 pm

 

183. Tara said:

Ok Jad, Thank you.

To summarize: wrong first impression, basic questions, questionable personal stories, a bit odd, with no blogging history, and plus minus fake Syrian. This was better than sinister and maleficent professional blogger and all above is definitely better than a “traitor” or Israel sympathizer with subtle preference and clear signs.

I truly hope that above covered everything and summed it all up so there is nothing more in the horizon (except for the usual MB thing). I thought initially I got desensitized but I was wrong. It did upset me pretty much yesterday.

Apology accepted.

Again I urge every one to argue concepts not virtual personal impressions. And unless you have something nice to say, just please do not say it.

And Finally Jad, please do not bother a reply.

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July 12th, 2011, 8:35 pm

 

184. Tara said:

Husam

That was vey sweet. Thank you.

Don’t worry. I am very comfortable in my skin and have no desire to ” fit in”. I actually like to be different.

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July 12th, 2011, 8:39 pm

 

185. Akbar Palace said:

There is no Utopia, but you can get close

Exactly. And anyone who sets out to fight corruption is a fool. You might as well try to outlaw human greed. Can’t be done.

Daleandersen,

I humbly disagree. All societies and all governments have a degree of corruption. But it varies drastically from place-to-place. Fighting corruption is a civic duty where “rule-of-law” is in place. We should all strive to improve our respective governments, because we live there!

It is nearly impossible to improve a government if there are no freedoms.

Here in the US, people are involved at many levels and improvements happen (perhaps too slowly) all the time. For example, when a woman gets off scott free from a murder charge because of “reasonable doubt” (Casey Anthony), a number of states and localities are now talking about instituting a law REQUIRING a mother to report her lost child within 24 hours (not 31 days). If she fails to do this she could see many years behind bars.

Rule-of-law, an impartial and strong judiciary, and freedoms are all necessary to reduce corruption. It takes a determined society to bring this about, and the rewards are extremely tangible.

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July 12th, 2011, 9:06 pm

 

186. louai said:

@128 Aboud
‘At this juncture the country needs sweeping reforms, not baby steps that involve the best way to get started on talking about reforms.’
Very true , but dose the opposition have any vision? They don’t even have a leader let a lone a leader with vision
‘It needs a leader of vision. Bashar has yet to show he has that vision.’
What about the 3rd speech? He said everything we never dreamed we will hear in Syria, article 8! All the constitution! He acknowledged all the people’s demands and Needs and admitted that Syria CAN NOT AND SHOULD NOT go back as it was four month ago

Success is not about having vision and being courageous with a good strategic plan only ,you need to adapt for change ,’the regime’ showed flexibility and adaptability that I didn’t expected to exist but the opposition showed non ,they are only stubborn and repeating ‘the people want to topple the regime’ بدكن العنب ولا بدكن تقاتلو الناطور?
I think the president hijacked the revolution and he is leading the change already, the opposition have all the right to stay pressuring (peacefully off course ) the the government have all the right to keep on chasing the terrorists (who did hijack the revolution already)

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July 12th, 2011, 11:11 pm

 

187. Mina said:

Tara 154
Add to your disgust that the way to call the boss of the foreign maid in English is “master”. (I’ve heard a boss asking a foreign maid who was meeting his own foreign maid: “who is your master?”)
Lebanon, Syria, Gulf countries, the road will be long to democracy. It starts with banning slavery and feudal practices. End of the grey econonomy. Registration of anyone who work. Health insurance and benefits.

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July 13th, 2011, 4:52 am

 

188. Mina said:

150 Amnesia
Of course personal greed first, but then the reason why the person does not see it as wrong to mix his personal greed in his work and ruin a whole system (meaning: if everybody does like me, the system can’t work) is because he is used to have some ‘special rights’: be the man, be the shaykh, be the son of the shaykh.
When you see poor people giving all they have to a church who has plenty already or to a shaykh because they think he has baraka, you see that there is something wrong from the person ‘in power’ to accept it. This is also corruption. Not only bribes.
It is certainly not limited to the Arab world (South America, Asia etc.) but check, it is always were men have the upper hand on women.

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July 13th, 2011, 5:00 am

 

189. HS said:

172. Aboud said:
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@171 The link you posted talks about circumstances where a person may be denied entry into the USA (nothing whatsoever about being barred permanently)

To have “denied entry permanently” on your passport is pretty serious stuff. It just doesn’t happen the way your friend described it.

Once more, urban legends being passed off as facts….
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At # 168 you said that it was impossible.

Now you say it is an urban legend but you are not able to prove it.

Next you will say that I am a liar and this was not the case of the person I mentioned.

Anyway, I will not argue with you about the color of the stamp or the exact mention on the passport ( the end result is the same ), it was about the corruption and its cultural root
and you fail to understand it:

A Syrian way of negotiating perfectly suited in Syria in Asia and in Europe gets you in trouble in the US.

He uses to say jokingly of this person that
if a passerby in the street asks him for the time , he will start a dialogue and , after 10 minutes , he is the passerby’s best friend and he have convinced him to buy a factory of Homsi watch.

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July 13th, 2011, 5:18 am

 

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