EU Lays Off Syrians and Stops all Aid; Shell Pressured to Leave

The EU lays off hundreds of Syrians as it suspends all aid programs for Syria. In a sweeping decision to punish the government for its violent crackdown on the protest movement, the EU will cease all all aid and shut down energy programs and development. Royal Dutch Shell is being pressured to quite the country as well. The construction of a 724-mw combined cycle electric plant near Deir al-Zor will come to an end. Who will be hurt more: the regime or the people? Perhaps European politicians calculate that it doesn’t matter because in the end there will be plenty of pain to go around. The object seems to be to bring Syrian economy to a standstill in the hope of bringing down the government.

In the meantime, Tunisia and Egypt are being promised 40 billion dollars. G-8: Nations, Banks to Give $40B for Arab Spring. A clear carrot and stick is being established to encourage regime-change in Syria.

Time: Syria: If Protesters Don’t Get Assad, the Economy Will

As the crisis in Syria continues, many observers are beginning to say that if the protesters cannot overthrow the regime, the economy will. With political uncertainty at a suffocating level, the Syrian pound has fallen against the U.S. dollar. As a result, Syrians are feverishly hauling their money out of banks — about 8% of all banks deposits have been withdrawn — and shifting it into more stable foreign currencies. GDP was predicted to grow at a steady 6% this year. Now, predictions are closer to a negative 3% contraction. “I think the crackdown on protesters will succeed in the next two months,” a senior western diplomat in Syria says. “But in six months time, the economy will have taken such a battering that [President Bashar al-]Assad will have lost the support of the majority of Syrians.”

The economy had been key to Assad’s popular standing before the uprising. Portraying himself as a political and economic reformer, Syria’s President spent the last five years moving away from the socialist, centrally planned economy that has failed Syrians. With a team of economic liberalizers, Assad began to open up the economy to the private sector, encourage free trade and reduce subsidies. Tourism started to boom and foreign investment began flooding in. Suddenly, middle-class Syrians were able to afford new cars and houses. Consumerism developed as cheap foreign products, like Chinese TVs and heaters, entered the market. The espresso-drinking urban business class grew.

Now, however, the pillars of the new Syria are collapsing. Today, people are not buying cars. Actually, nobody is spending at all in Syria. People are working fewer hours and there are widespread layoffs — some companies have stopped paying salaries. In three months, Syria’s economy has gone from growth to slump even as the government is desperately trying to pay off its disobedient citizens with subsidies — money it does not have.

Tourism, which possibly accounted for up to 18% of the entire economy, was the first to go. A year ago, sandal-clad and camera-wielding hordes of European tourists would shuffle through the cobble-stoned souk of Old Damascus, who patronized the businesses of cocky young Syrians, many of whom speak five languages to cater to the flow of foreigners. Now the tourist touts sit on small plastic stools and drink sweet tea in their shops full of dusty carpets and silver trinkets. “The Old City is still safe, but it’s empty,” one shopkeeper said as he tried to sell a box of old coins from Syria’s eastern deserts, a once-popular souvenir here.

Most travel insurance companies have blacklisted the country; and Middle East tour groups are now avoiding Syria altogether, even choosing to fly from Turkey to Jordan, rather than busing through the country as they used to do. The shopkeepers of Damascus say many tourist companies have closed and the boutique hotels of the capital and Aleppo, the country’s largest city, are empty. “We will have to close soon,” one said.

The next economic support to go will be foreign investment. With dwindling oil reserves, the Syrian government has been betting on foreign investment to pay for more than half of all government spending over the coming years. Would-be investors are now waiting to see if the situation stabilizes or, increasingly, are simply taking their money elsewhere. A Qatar-based company recently scrapped plans for a $900 million project to build power plants here. “The prospects do not look good at all,” a leading Damascus economist said on condition of anonymity. “There is a deep sense that the crisis is ongoing and business is at a standstill.”

Worst of all, according to many in the Syrian business community, the government has backtracked on its liberalizing reforms in a last-ditch attempt to mollify the protesters, who complain of unemployment, corruption, low wages and high prices. On Tuesday, the Treasury announced it would further subsidize gas oil by 25%, the latest in a string of government measures, including generous salary increases for public-sector workers and reintroducing subsidies on food and fuel prices. “It is not feasible for the government to adopt a socialist economy again. They simply don’t have the money,” the Damascus economist said. “All economic moves have been short term emergency measures, there has been no strategy.”

Panicked by the protests, President Assad sacked his government in April in a move that one dissident in Damascus described as “a pretense to democracy.” The dismissals included Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs Abdullah al Dardari, the architect of the economic liberalization. Although Dardari’s longer-term policies were not always popular among the poor, the English-speaking minister opened the economy to foreign trade and private banks brought credit into the country.

A European business analyst working in Syria says that while the unrest has hurt the economy, the government backtracking on economic policy could cripple Syria. “There is now an uncertainty over future policy. People want to know if they invest now they can be sure for 20 years,” he says. Assad’s emergency measures mean oil prices and inflation rates are now unpredictable. “When investors don’t have certainty, because you just sacked all the economic reformers, they won’t invest,” he adds. The analyst says that it is possible there could be rolling blackouts in Syria as the government is unable to attract foreign investment for new electricity plants.

Unlike in Egypt, where the educated middle class used their knowledge of the Internet and the media to help oust President Hosni Mubarak, in Syria it is the poverty-stricken masses that have led the protests while the growing business classes have sat tight. Soon, however, many of Syria’s business class — who are generally undecided on the anti-Assad demonstrations — will start to feel the pinch when they can’t afford to send their kids to schools or pay for hospital bills. The Damascus economist says that would be the beginning of the end for Assad. He says: “The business community does business with [Assad] cronies in government. They are willing to take some losses, but at one point they will demand reforms.

Regulatory watch: Syria
Economist Intelligence Unit – Business Middle East
1 June 2011

EU suspends aid. The Council of the EU on May 23rd announced that it has decided to suspend aid programmes for Syria in light of the ongoing repression of peaceful protests. This could potentially inflict serious damage on Syria’s economic prospects, as the EU has been one of the most important sources of finance for development projects for a number of years, even though the two sides have yet to sign an Association Agreement, the standard framework for economic co-operation between the EU and Mediterranean Basin states. The EU stated that it had decided to suspend all preparations in relation to new co-operation programmes and to suspend ongoing programmes under the Euroepan Neighbourhood Initiative and Mésures d’Accompagnement (Meda) instruments. EU members states would be reviewing their own bilateral aid programmes, and the EU Council asked the European Investment Bank (EIB) “to not approve new EIB financing operations in Syria for the time being”.

The statement said that the EU will consider the suspension of further assistance to Syria “in light of developments”. It also stated that signing of the Association Agreement is now not on the agenda. The agreement had been initialled in 2004, but plans to sign it the following year were scrapped owing to a worsening in relations over Syrian actions in Lebanon. As relations improved from mid-2008, the EU sought to revive the Association Agreement, whose principal feature is the lifting of trade barriers. However, the Syrian government objected to the insertion of fresh clauses about human rights, and a plan to sign the agreement in late 2009 was cancelled. There has been little progress since.

The lack of an Association Agreement has not been a bar to EU development assistance. The EU has provided more than €1.1bn in finance to Syria, with most of this being disbursed over the past decade. Energy has been a major beneficiary, with €615m of loans provided by the EIB for the construction of power stations and transmission and distribution systems. It is not clear what impact the EU’s latest action will have on Syria’s largest new power station project, involving the construction of a 724-mw combined cycle plant near Deir al-Zor by a consortium of Italy’s Ansaldo Energia and Metka of Greece. A signing ceremony was held in early February for loans provided by the Saudi Fund for Development and the Kuwait-based Arab Fund for Economic and Social Development, which together are financing about one-third of the estimated US$950m costs. The EIB has also been listed by the government as a major source of finance for the project, but the proposed loan from the bank could come into question as a result of the EU Council’s decision.

The EU is an important trading partner of Syria and a significant source of economic aid. In 2009 the EU accounted for 30% of Syria’s exports (mainly oil bought by Germany, Italy and France) and 23.5% of Syria’s imports. However, Iraq has recently emerged as the largest buyer of Syrian goods, accounting for 26% of total exports in 2009, and Turkey’s share of the Syrian import market has grown rapidly on the back of a free-trade agreement, reaching 7.6% in 2009. There is a risk that the unrest will hamper trade with these two countries.

G-8: Nations, Banks to Give $40B for Arab Spring, 2011-05-27

DEAUVILLE, France (AP) — Rich countries and international lenders are aiming to provide $40 billion in funding for Arab nations trying to establish true democracies, officials said at a Group of Eight summit Friday.

Officials didn’t fully detail the sources of the money, or how it would be used, but the thrust was clearly to underpin democracy in Egypt and Tunisia — where huge public uprisings ousted autocratic regimes this year — and put pressure on repressive rulers in Syria and Libya.

The overall message from President Barack Obama and the other G-8 leaders meeting in this Normandy resort appeared to be warning autocratic regimes in the Arab world that they will be shut out of rich-country aid and investment, while new democracies are encouraged to open their economies….

Tunisia’s government said it was asking the G-8 for $25 billion over the next five years, and Egypt says it will need between $10 to $12 billion for the fiscal year that begins in July to cover its mounting expenses…..

WSJ [Reg]: Shell Faces NGO Pressure To Withdraw From Syria

LONDON (Dow Jones)–Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSB.LN) is coming under pressure in the Netherlands to withdraw from Syria because of the Syrian government’s violent reprisals against pro-democracy demonstrators. Dutch non-governmental organization IKV …

The EU lays off hundreds of Syrians

أنهى الاتحاد الأوربي عقود مئات العاملين معه في مشاريعه في سورية وذلك بعد قرار تعليق جميع برامج التعاون مع سورية على خلفية استمرار “عمليات القمع” على حد ادعاءاتهم “ضد السكان المدنيين”.متناسين أن من يقتل هم المخربين وحملة السلاح المتأمر

وشكل مجموعة من الذين أنهى الاتحاد عقودهم صفحة على الفيس بوك يطالبون فيها بتعويضاتهم المالية وحقوقهم المنصوص عليها في عقود التوظيف، وأكدوا استمرارهم في المطالبة حتى الحصول على حقوقهم.

وتشير إحدى الموظفات في إحدى برامج الاتحاد انه وبدون سابق إنذار اخبرنا مدير البرنامج وهو أوربي الجنسية ان نغادر المكاتب وننهي العمل في يوم الخميس 26/5/2011، وتقول ان المدير ذاته كان يرفض مغادرة سورية لكنه غير رايه بشكل مفاجئ

why-discuss said:

Murat said:” …better one is to bankrupt the country through on-going economic paralysis. This will hit the elite classes where they will feel it – their pocketbook. Once their financial security is threatened, they will quickly get rid of Bashar”

I disagree with that ’stategy’ and in general on the described dangers of bankruptcy of the Syrian government.

This is the assumption Israel has for Gaza: We squeeze then economically and they will turn against their leaders.

The same assumption they had in 2006 : We harass them until they turn against Hezbollah.

Unfortunately this may work in western democracies, but in the middle east it can be the exact opposite!

None of the Arab leaders who fell were under any sanctions. In the contrary they were pampered by the Western countries, not for their democratic achievements, but because they has submitted to Number One Rule of the western countries: DO NOT THREATEN ISRAEL.

In Syria, this rule has been rejected by the Assad and the country has been burdened by sanctions for decades.

My view is that if more economical hardship is felt in Syria because of new sanctions, the Syrians will spontaneously regroup around their president and put the blame on the opposition and on the western countries.

So in the long run, these sanctions will have the exact opposite effect.

In addition, it will allow countries like Russia, China and Iran to find a open ground for more economical influence and sustained presence.

So the bankruptcy and isolation of Syria may reinforce Bashar Al Assad control of the country.

He still have at least one strong ally: Russia that is now courted by the western countries to save them from the Libya quagmire.

Contrary to the US, Russia does not dump its long term allies when they are in trouble.

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1. Alex said:

40 billions for Egypt and Tunisia is much more reasonable than the 2 billions we heard about at President Obama’s speech on the Middle East.

Who will get the money? … the army? … what will be the cost? guarantee no one touches peace treaty with Israel? no cooperation with Syria and Iran?

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May 28th, 2011, 1:54 am


2. Mr.President said:

Bashar Assad will turn this European and American economic pressure against Syria into a gain. First, Syria will be flooded with cash from its multimillion+ expat community. The expats will be responsible to help their extended families. The number of tourists will double if not triple next year. This is true because Syria got so much publicity. She used to be just a small country in the Middle East. It is now known to every person on the planet. I also think that current events will give Assad people’s mandate to wipe sectarianism once and for all. Time for him to establish laws punishing people who commit or advocate hate crimes, punishing sheikhs and individuals who preach racism, discrimination and sectarianism (Syrian civil rights).

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May 28th, 2011, 4:07 am


3. Shami said:

MR PResident ,the most sectarian entity in Syria ,is asad inner circle.This exclusive sectarianism is the most hideous in the region,it’s a culture of hatred that they cultivated for centuries,they are scared from change because they consider the syrian people as a threat to them.They are a fifht column.
This extremist sectarianism ,fortunately is marginal ,our multi religious and cosmopolitan culture is centuries years old and so was the case of Syria prior to the Asad.

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May 28th, 2011, 5:01 am


4. Revlon said:

What does it mean when the president of Russia admonishes Jr to walk the talk!
Here is how I read the statement, issued in the context of the G8 summit:

– Jr has been doing lots of talk about reforms, alas has delivered none!

– The statement expresses the exasperation of the Russians with the Jr intransigence!

– The statement amounts to an ultimatum: Walk the talk, or else, the security council will!

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May 28th, 2011, 5:59 am


5. Revlon said:

“The EU lays off hundreds of Syrians”
Government jobs, with very few exceptions, go to the regime’s benefactors!
This layoff shall hurt the regime’s benefactors.
The suppressed and impoverished masses care less!

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May 28th, 2011, 6:09 am


6. Revlon said:

45. Dear MNA, prior to the revolution the regime was in control of a complete blackout on state committed atrocities in the country.
No body would dare to report what happenned to those abducted by the security forces.

These days, tens of thousands of cell phones and their cameras make it very difficult for such atrocities to go unrecorded, and transmitted to facebook and Youtube.

The whereabouts of this kid was known and documented by the family and friends. The security forces were either aware of the family’s knowledge or made aware of it.

I hope that I understood and answered your question!

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May 28th, 2011, 6:29 am


7. majedkhaldoon said:

Dr. Akram Sha33ar,who spoke on Dunia TV, is a liar,Changes after death does not explain cutting genital organ.
Also his name Sha33ar,is the same last name of interior minister,Sha33ar,they must be close relative, his credibiity is zero.

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May 28th, 2011, 6:50 am


8. syau said:


That’s what you’re basing your conclusions on, a surname?

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May 28th, 2011, 7:24 am


9. majedkhaldoon said:

is he his son, or his brother? can you hlp ,findout what relation between them,if he is his son you can see that he has vested interest in lying.

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May 28th, 2011, 7:40 am


10. Revlon said:

Iran is reportedly aiding the regime in its crackdown on the revolution.
– Iran is dispatching increasing numbers of trainers and advisers
– Aid includes also weapons, riot gear, and sophisticated surveillance equipment that is helping Syrian authorities track down opponents through their Facebook and Twitter accounts
– The new assertions — provided by two U.S. officials and a diplomat from an allied nation, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive intelligence — are clearly aimed at suggesting deepening involvement of Iranian military personnel in Syria’s brutal crackdown against anti-Assad demonstrators.
– There was no response on Friday to requests for comment left with the Syrian Embassy and Iranian interests section in Washington

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May 28th, 2011, 8:20 am


11. Revlon said:

Cheer up regime supporters; Syrian television reports demonstrations and crack down in Qatar!

I am not aware of any other media to have reported such events.
Does anyone know of another scource?

شاهد عيان من قطر يوضح ما جرى في جمعة العزة

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May 28th, 2011, 8:37 am


12. Sophia said:

I think what is left for the regime for now is to resist outside pressure in order to survive and this pressure will be going up. But unlike other countries, and unlike Iraq or north Korea for example, Syria will never be in a state of prolonged autarchy. So it will be one of these three scenarios:
– A solution including the regime and the forces who want to oust the regime
– A civil war egulfing Syria, Lebanon, Iraq (which is already in a civil war), parts of Turkey, with the expected consequences in Jordan and among Palestinians who live in these countries and extended consequences in Gaza and the West Bank
– A change in the actual political alliances in the region around the Saudi-Iran axis and Turkey has a role to play here, not Egypt where things are still fragile and where they depend on US and EU money.

As the regime has shown that it is not willing to surrender, the Syrian revolution and its external backers have only a small time window in which to act solution 1 after which solutions 2 and 3 will play against them. In this battle there can be no decisive victory on either side. However, Israel can benefit from a civil war in Syria that can freeze any possible threat from hezbollah or a civil peaceful Palestinian resistance movement.

My advice to the Syrian opposition: don’t be naive and listen to Israel and the neocons.

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May 28th, 2011, 8:56 am


13. Revlon said:

It aint over folks!
Tanks on the way to Al7rak, 7oran, to chase the vestiges of conspirators (Fulool Al mutamireen)

28 5 Herak Daraa
حوران الدبابات اثناء دخولها مدينة بصر الحرير متجهة الى مدينة الحراك لمحاصرتها صبيحة يوم السبت

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May 28th, 2011, 9:07 am


14. why-discuss said:


We have seen lots of promises from the EU and US. They always come with strings attached.
For example countries like Iran and Syria regret to have signed the
NPT as it has allowed constant intrusion, interferences and threats from western countries used for political purposes. After having been harassed about the alleged nuclear site, Syria has become very suspicious of signing economical agreements that have conditions imposed on the country’s internal political and social life. They know it can be used in the future as a politically motivated pressure. This is why they have refused to sign the apparently advantageous EU Association Agreement.

The western countries have not given yet any timeline for these billions. They are probably waiting to see if the emerging democracy in Egypt and Tunisia will stick to the Western sacro-saint rules: No cozy relationship with Iran and No threats to their protege, Israel.

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May 28th, 2011, 9:34 am


15. Revlon said:

7amza AlKhateeb clip
The regime is responsible, and regime supporters are ethically considered accomplices in the hyenous murder of this boy.

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May 28th, 2011, 10:25 am


16. Norman said:

How many billions has Indonesia gotten from the West after the Tsunami , i doubt that they got much , i think that they were promised more than a hundred billion.

i think that the crises will help Syria know who are friends and who are not, with lack of foreign debt, Thanks to the prudent Baath party management, Syria has free political decision to support Hamas, Hezbollah and the rights of the Palestinians, They are dying for Syria to drown in debt so they can control it, Syria should reevaluate it’s need for foreign investment and stop foreign ownership of Syrian land and properties that is only inflating the prices of these properties out of reach for Syrians, if Syrians are not for themselves we should not expect others to be for them.

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May 28th, 2011, 10:32 am


17. Syria no kandahar said:

Prof landis
Some suggestions to rename this site:
Revlon comments
MB comments
Syria destruction crew comments

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May 28th, 2011, 10:33 am


18. Usama said:


Thank you for sharing that Arab Times article earlier that responds to Yaser Abu Hilala. Is this Yaser’s article that it was referring to ( ? Where in it does he admit to recruiting and training “eyewitnesses”?


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May 28th, 2011, 11:17 am


19. aboali said:

According to a friend of mine who is a well known industrialist in Aleppo with 2 large factories, he has already started laying off workers and cutting shifts. He says that in a maximum of 3 months, if the situation continues every single factory in Aleppo will have shut down completely.

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May 28th, 2011, 11:18 am


21. Observer said:

The last portion of my posted comment was from the NYT and I do not recall putting it there anyway it is worth mentioning to avoid plagiarism.

I have no inside information about what is actually happening.
Now let us count the friends of Syria at the present time:
Iran and HA and allies in Lebanon. I would also add Algeria and Libya’s Ghadafi faction although both have no ability to help the regime at this time.

Now let us count the neutral positive countries toward Syria: I would say Russia for a time and perhaps China. Maybe the UAE and some in Kuwait as well, not all. I would say that Jordan is in this camp and like Algeria above does not have much influence it can provide the regime. This latest group of countries can help the regime bypass some sanctions. Iraq is too weak to help at this time

Now let us count the neutral negative countries and these are : KSA, the March 14 group, some elements in the Iraqi groups so as to spite Iran, and I would say Turkey and Russia in the near future. Russia will use the Syria card to extract concessions from the EU and US. Once the price is paid they will abstain in the SC.

Those against the regime with flexibility towards it include most of the rest of the world and those against the regime without any flexibility include Israel and the very fanatics of whatever religious motivation.

So what options does Muallem have in dealing with the increased isolation: he talked about Arab brotherly relations and these have been deader than a dead horse since 1967. He cannot go to the Conference of Islamic countries and even so it is ineffectual. So there will be back room and under the table dealings with Iraq and Lebanon on the immediate near, banking and financial games with and through Dubai, and arms dealing and maybe even drug trafficking with the Belorussians and others to finance the system.

This will bring even further rotting of the system from within; and will not change the course of events. The world has closed the door on Syria for now and if the world recognizes a Palestinian state in September, even this will further diminish Syria’s influence. The late President had given Syria a role bigger than its actual size with cunning and forceful diplomacy, the cub is not the father and does not have what it takes to extricate the regime from its predicament.

Suggestions for the regime:
1. Isolate and put under house arrest the key figures of the regime responsible for the violence. Including the most inner members of the family’s circle.
2. 17 internal security services are clearly not able to function and coordinate their activities as there is clearly chaotic repression and not an orderly one,therefore merge them into three one for external and one for internal and a third for law and order.
3. Suspend the egregious chapters of the constitution immediately
4. Suspend the Baath party members and put under house arrest the major leaders of the party with known and clear corruption histories.
5. Establish an independent Supreme Court and National and Regional court systems totally separated from the other branches and with international and Arab and supervision if need be.
6. Declare that within six months there will be multiparty elections and allow for foreign journalists and outside observers to enter the country immediately
7. Ask the UN for help with internal and external migration of refugees and for the transition to happen smoothly.
8. Reduce the draft to a maximum of one year.
9. Use the armed forces engineering group to rebuild the countryside including water and irrigation and roads and schools.
10. Create a corps of people to revamp the infrastructure like the US CCC corps in the 1930’s and ask for the regime’s friends and the UN to help.

I am sure that these measures will go a long way to help the situation.

Finally allow demonstrations for and against the regime, for I am sure as the Christian businessman from Syria posted he and others are longing for stability. they should be allowed to voice their support.

Now the regime is offering only two things: us and chaos; not us or chaos. This is not a formula for success.

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May 28th, 2011, 11:26 am


22. jad said:

Check out this news report from the Syrian TV about what happened on Friday, the interesting part is at frame 0:10 when couple big guys with beard and obvious 3r3our look attack a police young guy without any reason then walk away as if they did nothing very suspicious, I think the Syrian TV channels MUST put cameras allover the country to show what is happening.

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May 28th, 2011, 11:39 am


23. why-discuss said:

President Chavez Expresses Solidarity with Syrian People “Facing Imperialist Attacks”
Published on May 22nd 2011 at 10.08pm

…Chávez was able to obtain first hand information about the reform process promoted by President Al Assad, formulated in order to respond to the legitimate requests and demands of those who have been demonstrating peacefully and who have nothing to do with extremist groups armed and financed from abroad.

In the telephone conversation the Syrian president made particular reference to the new social policies implemented by his government in order to protect the most vulnerable sectors of the population.

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May 28th, 2011, 11:40 am


24. Sophia said:

# 21 Observer,

Some points in your proposal make sense, especially the draft and everything related to justice. Young Syrians are unhappy about the draft, and Syrians must feel protected by the judicial system. I think the issue of social justice is more important than the ballot box and it is a healthy prelude to real demcoracy. The ballot box without social justice is travesty of democracy.

As for the whole proposal you are laying, I think we have to be realistic. The revolutionaries meeting in Antalya as well as the US and EU will not react positively even if Assad implements reforms rapidly. The only impact reforms can have is on rallying neutral countries and rallying internal public opinion but even here I am still skeptical, the pressure is not about reforms, it is about the submission of the regime to the external countries putting the pressure, or the fall of the regime. If they really wanted reforms they could have helped instead of imposing sanctions. You don’t impose sanctions when you ask for reforms.

There is nothing here about democracy and reforms from external countries, it is pure neocolonialist foreign policy.

I am sure there will be a US veto to the UN recognition of a Palestinian state.

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May 28th, 2011, 12:00 pm


25. abughassan said:

I am surprised that some Syrians believed the myth that the west is waiting for the regime to fall so it will start pouring billions of dollars in Syria’s economy. Some points to make:
1. The EU is busy saving the behinds of its own members.
2. no investment is likely if there is no security.
3. no third world country received free aid. there is always a
political price, and most loans carry a hefty interest rate.
A swift fall of the regime,as some people advocate,will be a total man-made disaster with horrible consequences. It is naive to assume that the heads of the army and security forces will suddenly change allegiance and throw flowers at the new “leadership”, Syria is not Egypt or Tunisia, it is not unlikely that any attempted coup or any serious division within the army,the new dream of people like Abdulhameed,will transform Syria into a war zone. This is not the time to play Nintendo with Syria’s future.
Europe and other “concerned” human rights defenders will not stop at punishing the regime,they have already taken measures that can only hurt average Syrians,and this is likely to continue. The only appropriate response to sanctions is to take care of the Syrian family and look for new “economic” friends. That requires winning the trust of Syrians which can not be achieved if massive arrests do not stop,political prisoners are not released,corruption is not attacked and meaningful reform is not enacted. Russia,not China,is the only reason why there is no UNSC resolution against the Syrian government yet,but Russia’s position will change if the behavior of the regime does not change.As for new economic friends,there are many,China,Brazil,Russia and India to name a few,in addition to existing ones like Turkey and potential Arab partners,and I am confident,as history is the proof,that the same countries that are racing to sanction Syria today will be the first ones to send envoys tomorrow if Syria,not just the regime, survives this crisis.

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May 28th, 2011, 12:15 pm


27. Vedat The Turk said:

What Reforms?

When discussing the presidency of Bashar Assad, everyone should remember that from the first day he took office he talked of plans to initiate reforms. But after 10 years of promising reforms nothing materialize!

Indeed, instead of SYria joining the World Trade Organization or siging EU trading agreement, Syria instead further isolated itself by embracing Iranian hostilities towards its neighbors and the West.

Talk about squandered opportunities! Now the regime is paying the price for its lack of action. It has no credibility with its people and the international community. It’s days are numbered.

Au revoire Bashar!

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May 28th, 2011, 12:20 pm


28. why-discuss said:

Islamic states upset with UN Syria draft by EU
By IBtimes Staff Reporter | May 28, 2011 3:43 AM EDT

The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has raised strong opposition to some parts of a European draft resolution to be placed before the UN Security Council condemning Syria and has demanded that some parts of it be deleted…..

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May 28th, 2011, 12:21 pm


29. why-discuss said:

Vedat the turk

“Syria instead further isolated itself by embracing Iranian hostilities towards its neighbors and the West.”

Syria should be friend with the neighbor occupying its land?

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May 28th, 2011, 12:26 pm


30. abughassan said:

Things all over Syria,especially in Homs, seem to be improving. Let us hope for more peaceful days. Another observation ,mostly from talking to friends in Syria and cross-matching reports, more Syrians are unwilling to demonstrate,and more demonstrators now are in the “thuggish” category, some attacked unarmed policemen and even allowed their kids to participate in demonstrations and watched boys throw rocks at cars and shops as if that was an act of manhood. The calls for demonstrations are,for the most part, falling on deaf ears when it comes to educated and employed Syrians. My biggest personal disappointment with Syria,my birth country and the place where I grew up as a child,was that it looks like I failed to believe that it is still a third world country with scores of uneducated and/or unemployed people who are easily manipulated into using violence and hatred to feel better about their miserable life.this unfortunate description is not limited to anti regime forces but it is also true for many pro regime people who are unable to see the evil in using violence and torture and were full participants in the culture of corruption that infected so many Syrians. Much of that misery is due to an oppressive and corrupt regime,but we are going nowhere if we do not admit the ills inside each one of us and start the change process at the individual level instead of throwing all of our grievances on the regime’s table,that is how countries move ahead,and that is why we can not change Syria overnight.

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May 28th, 2011, 12:48 pm


31. jad said:


“However, the draft does not call for sanctions or military action against ‘Syria’ but it articulates that actions by the army may account to crimes against humanity.”

Goldstone report took a year of investigation, a year to be discussed with manipulation by Israel, US and the PA not to be approved and another year to ‘convince’ Goldstone himself to dismiss it and the same useless UN knew undoubtedly in less than 2 weeks looking at youtube clips that ‘Syria’ as a whole did crimes against humanity and the way they word it so lightly in there way to convince others is pathetic:
“In our report we are not going to kill you we just want to put the rope around your neck and give you a small push, do not worry!!!!”

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May 28th, 2011, 12:54 pm


32. why-discuss said:


MOSCOW, May 28 (Xinhua) — Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Saturday reiterated Moscow’s opposition to discussing the Syria situation in the U.N. Security Council, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The message was conveyed in a phone conversation between Lavrov and his Syrian counterpart, Walid al-Moallem, according to the statement, which was posted on the ministry’s website.

Lavrov was quoted as telling al-Moallem that Moscow still holds its “principled position against raising the Syrian topic in the U.N. Security Council.”

Al-Moallem informed Lavrov about the pragmatic steps taken by the Syrian leadership to implement domestic political reforms and to restore civil harmony, the statement added.

On Tuesday, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told Russian President Dmitry Medvedev over phone that he would do everything possible to ensure peace and boost reforms in his country.

Earlier this month, Medvedev said that Russia would not support a U.N. Security Council resolution on Syria if it were to be similar to the one on Libya. However, Medvedev did not say whether Russia would veto such a resolution should it be proposed.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:01 pm


33. jad said:

I never trusted Russia, they always stab us in the exact last minuet so I’m not hoping for anything neither from them nor from Chian, there words are worthless.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:04 pm


34. Sophia said:

This article may explain the harsh words Turkey had for the Syrian regime but these words hide a more nuanced reality:

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May 28th, 2011, 1:11 pm


35. why-discuss said:


I agree with you, I was shocked that there was so much hidden violence and animosity on both sides. I thought this was only in Iraq and Lebanon.
A national reconciliation must be established at some point.

Bashar al Assad has to stand firm for a major overhaul of the system with a clear timeline as well as establishing ways to control the corruption. He has to be ruthless, not with the small fish, but with the big fish often related to his entourage who have not only polluted and abused the Baath ideology, but have created violent resentments in the empoverished population.
Daunting tasks, I hope he can…

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May 28th, 2011, 1:15 pm


36. Usama said:


I believe Egypt and Tunisia both are members of WTO and have association agreements with the EU, and look what happened to them now. Squandered opportunities indeed!


I agree about not trusting Russia. They seem to be holding up for now but I don’t think they will stay like this if the saboteurs and terrorists keep this up for maybe another couple of months. At the same time, everyone should understand any military action against Syria will equate to a regional war and I have a lot of faith that Bashar has tactical options that we don’t know about.

Also, in case you missed my earlier comment (sorry if I’m harassing you), the Arab Times article you posted earlier was a response to Yaser Abu Hilala’s article. Do you know where I can find that Abu Hilala article? I think it’s this one but I don’t see any mention of training eyewitnesses in Syria, which the Arab Times article says Abu Hilala admits.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:23 pm


37. supportsyriaagainstthugs said:

Friday, May 27, 2011, Obama Gives Himself the Power to Economically Assassinate Syrian Leaders

Eric Blair, Activist Post

In April of this year President Barack Obama, claiming powers vested in him during an “International Economic Emergency” and “National Emergency” signed Executive Order 13572; Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to Human Rights Abuses in Syria. Essentially, it gives him the power to seize assets of Syrians suspected of being complicit in human rights abuses.

This incredibly vague standard gives the president the power to determine who ends up with the control of wealth in Syria. The EO describes the broad accusations that can be deemed sufficient enough by the State Department or Treasury Department to render asset seizures:
(i) to be responsible for or complicit in, or responsible for ordering, controlling, or otherwise directing, or to have participated in, the commission of human rights abuses in Syria, including those related to repression;
(ii) to be a senior official of an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order;
(iii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services in support of, the activities described in subsection (b)(i) of this section or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to Executive Order 13338, Executive Order 13460, or this order; or
(iv) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to Executive Order 13460 or this order.
If events leading up to Libya’s “liberation” are any indicator, this Executive Order is the first step in engaging in an interventionist “humanitarian war”. In February of this year Obama signed an eerily similar Executive Order 13566, Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya. Again, Obama declared the situation in Libya a “national emergency” in order to obtain the power to economically assassinate Qadhafi and anyone loyal to him:
I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that Colonel Muammar Qadhafi, his government, and close associates have taken extreme measures against the people of Libya, including by using weapons of war, mercenaries, and wanton violence against unarmed civilians. I further find that there is a serious risk that Libyan state assets will be misappropriated by Qadhafi, members of his government, members of his family, or his close associates if those assets are not protected. The foregoing circumstances, the prolonged attacks, and the increased numbers of Libyans seeking refuge in other countries from the attacks, have caused a deterioration in the security of Libya and pose a serious risk to its stability, thereby constituting an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
This Executive Order was executed less than a month before the U.N. Security Council resolution for the so-called “No-Fly Zone” that has now festered into nightly bombings of Libya’s capital city and the actual targeted assassination of their sovereign leader.

This appears to be the modern imperial playbook for starting preemptive humanitarian wars for the purpose of regime change. Step one; seize the assets of the group currently running a country to weaken them. Step two; build strategic popular support for humanitarian intervention. Step three; bomb the humanity back into the country and kill the rightful leader. Step four; install globalist puppets to control the flow of the country’s currency and assets. Step five; move on to the next “oppressive” regime, bypassing the mirror of conscience.

One thing is for certain, Syria is next on the globalist chopping block despite the West’s clear involvement in spearheading the opposition movement there. The U.S. president can now conveniently claim the powers of international economic emergency and national emergency to circumvent any checks and balances to justify nearly any act of imperial tyranny. And 2011 is shaping up to be a Blitzkrieg by Western powers to take out the remaining global chess pieces that oppose their domination

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May 28th, 2011, 1:29 pm


38. Observer said:

Sophia is asking for realism; I would say that the reality of the life of people on the ground speaks volumes about the difficulties of every day life that the AVERAGE Syrian goes through. The middle class disappeared in most cities over the last 10 years. It was partly due to the economic liberalization with 100% corruption that allowed for a few to become super rich and scraps to be given to the business class to keep them happy.
The reality is that interested parties and groups and sects are now fearful of democracy in whatever messy form and many are supporting as I said before reform IN the regime rather than OF the regime. Well the horse has left the barn.
Promise of reforms means two outcomes real or fake reforms, real is the slow end of the regime, fake is more hardship for all and an explosion at a later date.
Repression means two outcomes, complete subjugation of the people and we are back to 1980 and its turbulent 10 years but now many more people will have scores to settle with the regime and therefore a low level civil war or an explosion later on, the other outcome is failure of repression and this means end of the regime either with a violent and very messy catharsis or by internal rotting of the system or both.

Now I would like for people to put aside their pink colored glasses and look the reality straight in the face. I would like to ask a question: if you are not part and parcel of the regime or directly benefiting from the corrupt inbreeding of interests, what prospects do you have for a decent future for you and your family in Syria.
Nothing works in this system: water loss of 47% in Damascus, drought without relief for the population in Deir Ezor, denial of citizenship to Kurds yet obligation to join the draft, roads that may be the end of your life with unmarked pot holes and road work, schools were you have to bribe your grades through, universities where membership to the party ensures success, and on and on and on.

If the story of the young child tortured by the regime is true then this is unbelievable brutality. The President said that he ordered the cessation of ill treatments, if he cannot control his forces he should resign at least in protest and if he is in control he should resign as he is ultimately responsible for the actions of his forces. These are the kind of dilemmas he faces and only by coming clean will he be able to do anything in this country.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:30 pm


39. Observer said:

Here is some reality for those looking for it, although I do not always like what the WSJ prints and they are often very pro Zionist they tend to verify their sources well
It is about increasing torture and increasing lack of control

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May 28th, 2011, 1:47 pm


40. jad said:

Dear Usama,
Sorry I missed your earlier comment, here you go Yaser’ original article:
أحمد المسالمة.. شاهدا على درعا الشهيدة

Arab times first article about him:
وتكليفه من قبل المحطة بالتسلل الى درعا عبر الحدود الاردنية لتجنيد شباب سوريين ليلعبوا دور … شاهد عيان

And the latest answers on his article you linked
المخبر القطري ياسر ابو هلالة سأل: عن اية سورية يدافعون …. ونحن نجيب

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May 28th, 2011, 1:47 pm


41. Norman said:


I agree with you that The major problem Syria has is the reason that I left, I felt that I could not succeed without money or connections, that is what made the us attractive to I am equal to everybody and have the same opportunity that others have if I work hard,

On the other hand, syrians tend to blame every problem that they have on th government in Damascus , taking no initiatives on their own to improve their lives, the pot holes and the dirty streets and the local corruption in city hall is not the responsibility of the government in Damascus, it is their own responsibility in thier own cities, it their local government and local prosecutor
Decentralization is essential for better towns and counties.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:49 pm


42. Syria no kandahar said:

I think if Assad quits Iran and hizballah he will be an American and Syrian hero,I don’t see why he should’t?nothing good comes out of Iran.All those western and us tears dropping and crying for syrians will stop immediately if he does that.why should arabs be friends with Persians ?they don’t like Arabs any way,they name the gulf -Persian-instead of Arabic,they prosecute Arabs in Ahwaz,and they were bying weapons from Israel during Iraq-Iran war.isn’t it more natural to ditch iran than to ditch Arabs ,if you have to make choice.I think if Hafez was alive now he would have steered the ship in a safer way,he sent Syrian troops to fight within the American troops when he had to,he knew how to be the surviver,Bashar is in time pressur,I think if he adopts the American constitution,and turns all Syrian jails into cafes,America will not release the robe from around his neck,if he dos’t ditch Iran,that is what BIBI wants.

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May 28th, 2011, 1:54 pm


43. why-discuss said:

Syria no kandahar

A suggestion:

Syria can propose to the California State to rent it Syria’s prisons to host the criminals that are overloading the prisons of California.
That would allow the modernization of Syria’ prisons with up to date torturing equipment tested by US soldiers in Iraq.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:05 pm


44. Sophia said:

# 37 Observer,

It is the economic liberalisation of Syria initiated by Bashar El Assad that provoked an economic gap between the well to do and the rest of the country. But economic liberalisation has produced huge unequalities in cenutries old democratic societies in the west. The US is a democracy with huge unequalities.

Economic liberalisation provokes also resentement from the have nots and it is because of this resentment that revolutions emerged recently in the Arab world. Some argue that economic liberalisation should be accomapnied by democratisation as to give the indivdual enough freedoms to build wealth. And promoting economic liberalisation in Arab countries was the Troy horse for personal freedoms aspirations leading to demands to overthrow non democratic regimes.

However, economic liberalisation produces profoundly unequal societies and only the existence of a low paid job sustaining economic activity and a welfare state can calm the resentment of the population, but it cannot heed off the profound economic unequalities brought by economic liberalisation.

Western economies have become more and more unequal societies, thanks to economic liberalisation.

I think the promotion of democracy and economic liberalisation by western countries in the middle east or in other countries where this tradition does ot exist has two negative implications:

1. A unique model cannot be applied uniformly anywhere, so each country has to be aware of this and has the responsibility of adapting the model to the needs of its own population and to its traditional resources;
2. Basically this model is more about promoting western econnomies already exhausted by nearly 30 years of economic liberalisation and more than two major market carshes, by opening new markets for them. It is not about promoting anything good for these traditional economies.

Syria has fallen in the trap in which many countries have fallen by initiating economic liberalisation without any prearranged social and political measures that alleviate the effects of this liberalisation.

As to the corrupt businessmen there are many of them in western economies. These economies are monopolised by few wgo have major taxe cuts, incentives, and the like for their governments while the rest of us work for ridiculous salaries, relatively higher taxes and rising costs for housing and daily goods.

As for the roads, I would invite you to drive right now in Canadian cities (where personal taxe rates are around 40% of income for the middle class) like Montreal and Ottawa where major potholes have even inspired artists:

From where Syrians are democratic perspectives seem rosy and I understand, personal freedom is an essential feature of the modern self. There are certainly many things we appreciate in our demcoracies but we pay heavily for them and our democracies are not void of huge unequalities. I think one experience to watch is the eastern europe perspective and the disillusions it brought to these europeans as well as the rise of the extremist ultraright in these countries on the bed of economic unequalities.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:13 pm


45. ss said:

Comment 41;

Syrian No Kandahar

Just to clarify some points:

The gulf has been always in history the Persian Gulf. I encourage you to go and do the search. It is Arabs who changed it to Arabic Gulf. There is the Arabic sea but No Arabic gulf in history. There is a persian gulf

Bahrain used to be a Persian Land as well until the treaty where the Shah decided to give it up for exchange with the small UAE islands which became part of Iran

I believe Arabs hate Iran way more than the Iranian hate Arabs, perhaps due to their religion (Shia). I have many Iranian friends and I tell you, they do not have the sectarian personality we Arabs have. Many Iranians do not have the Sunni/Shia issue that we have. Moreover the Iranian people are rooted in the history with a rich civilization even before Islam came and their contribution to Islam is amazing. You have to separate Iranian people from the administration, and we must give them a credit because they are amazing people.

I think the Assad and his ship is not sinking because of this tight relation with Iran. Do you want your fate to be like Jordan, Egypt, and even Fateh from palastine. Assad has many, many cards in his hands and Iran is one of them.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:14 pm


46. ss said:

For 41: Syrian No Kandahar

This is from Wikipedia just an FYI:

On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name “Persian Gulf”. This reflects traditional usage since the Greek geographers Strabo and Ptolemy, and the geopolitical realities of the time with a powerful Persian Empire (Iran) comprising the whole northern coastline and a scattering of local emirates on the Arabian coast. It was referred to as the Persian gulf in the Arabic Christian writer Agapius, writing in the 10th century.[4]

Arab countries also used the term “Persian Gulf” until the 1960s,[5][6] but with the rise of Arab nationalism during that decade, some Arab countries, including the ones bordering the Persian Gulf, adopted widespread use of the term “الخليج العربي” (al-Ḫalīj al-ʻArabiyy; Arab Gulf or Arabian Gulf) to refer to this waterway. This coupled with the decreasing influence of Iran on the political and economic priorities of the English-speaking Western World led to increasing acceptance, in regional politics and the mostly petroleum-related business, of the new alternative naming convention “Arabian Gulf” in Arab countries.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:22 pm


47. MNA said:


“Dear MNA, prior to the revolution the regime was in control of a complete blackout on state committed atrocities in the country.
No body would dare to report what happenned to those abducted by the security forces.

These days, tens of thousands of cell phones and their cameras make it very difficult for such atrocities to go unrecorded, and transmitted to facebook and Youtube.

The whereabouts of this kid was known and documented by the family and friends. The security forces were either aware of the family’s knowledge or made aware of it.”

Thank you Revlon for your answer. It did explain some, but not all. Why would the regime deliever the body of this poor kid mutalated and tortured knowing, as you put it, that there are tens of thousands of cell phones and their cameras recording the autrocities and transmitting it to facebeek and youtube.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:22 pm


48. jad said:

From Observer’s prove of ‘reality’ according to the ‘sourced’ WSJ article; I’m not saying that we have no torture is Syria or that our security moukhabarat are not thugs but I’m just asking for people to respect that we have brains:

“The stories we hear now are unimaginable in their brutality,” said a Syrian who said he worked in military intelligence in the 1980s and witnessed torture then, and said he was now fed up. “It is not only to deter protesters. They enjoy hurting people for the sake of it.”
-This Moukhabarat guy worked in the 80s and we all know what 80s mean and now he is suddenly ‘human’!? Really!!!!!

“He said his own detention began after he left an antiregime protest in a Homs neighborhood on April 17. He, his brother and two cousins got into a taxi, he said. They identified the driver by his accent as an Alawite, a member of the same religious minority as Mr. Assad and the majority of top government and security-service officials.
The driver took them to what the man said was an Alawite gang, who he said beat them, stuffed a rifle butt in his mouth and fired shots close to him.”

-4 protester maybe angry men in a taxi with only ONE ‘Alawite’ (his accent) driver and they couldn’t resist him kidnaping them????

“The four were then taken to the Homs military hospital, he said, where they were held five or six days. They spent the first three or so days, he said, naked and blindfolded with what he believed was medical tape or plaster.
“There were around 15 of us in a room and three beds,” he said. They were given no food or water and denied access to a toilet. From a gap in his blindfold, the man said, he saw a bag of saline solution that he opened with his teeth and shared around.
Every 10 minutes, he said, people he believed were security agents, nurses or doctors came in and beat them. He said he passed out at times from pain. It was here, he said, that he was slit with a scalpel three times on his back and again on his leg.”

-Every 10min a nurse, a doctor and an agent will just come in the room with rage and beat them, A NURSE beating 15 men in one room!!!! is this a normal hospital or crazy one?

-as usual through a gap in his blindfold he saved the 15 men in his room for five to six days without using the washroom on one bag of saline solution (which is salty which means it make you thirsty) who he opened by teeth, how come the liquid didn’t spell on the floor since he by himself tear it open…

-the fiction/article continue to tell us about about a designated torture OR in hospitals and doctors torturing people on purpose…

Read your ‘Reality’ ‘Resourced’ articles before you link them, especially when you use them as a prove of ‘Reality’ we all need to check and believe you point.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:34 pm


49. jad said:

I agree with you about the Iranians, I have many friends from Iran and they are amazing people, well educated, open minded and way way more advance than us Arabs and their women are more independent even under the shadour than most of our Arab women.

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May 28th, 2011, 2:59 pm


50. jad said:

داوود أوغلو : لو أخذت سوريا الإصلاحات بعين الإعتبار لكانت دولة يحتذى بها

قال وزير الخارجية التركية أحمد داوود أوغلو ” لو أخذت سوريا الإصلاحات بعين الإعتبار في العام الماضي، لكانت سوريا دولة يحتذى بها. هذه الاصلاحات لا تشكل صعوبة على سوريا بأي حال من الأحوال”.

و أكد وزير الخارجية التركية أحمد داوودأغلو على الموقف التركي من الأزمة السورية في مقابلة تلفزيونية على احدى القنوات التركية المعروفة في خضم حديثه عن الأزمات التي تعيشها الدول العربية بشكل عام.

و أوضح داوود أوغلو بأن سوريا قادرة على تحقيق الاصلاحات السياسية والاقتصادية للشعب السوري مبينا أن الوضع في سوريا يختلف عن مصر وتونس حيث قال إن الشعب كان الى فترة قريبة يثق بالرئيس السوري بشار الأسد ويحبه بصورة مختلفة عما حدث في مصر وتونس، لكنه أفاد بأن الوقت الآن قد تغير وبات غير معروفا ما اذا كان الشعب ما يزال يثق بالنظام أم لا ، مؤكدا على أن المجال ما زال مفتوحا أمام النظام السوري ليتخذ خطوات عملية في عملية الاصلاح في سوريا.

وأوضح وزير الخارجية التركية أن على الرئيس بشار الأسد الشروع فوراً بالإصلاحات التي وعد تركيا القيام بها إذا ما أراد للعلاقات بين البلدين ان تستمر على على نحو من التطور.

و تأتي هذه التصريحات بعد المداولات والخطابات التي صرحت بها الحكومة التركية لبيان موقفها من الأزمة السياسية في سوريا في وقت سابق على لسان رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب أردوغان في منابر سياسية مختلفة.

وانتقد داوود أوغلو في المقابلة التلفزيونية الرئيس أوباما في تصريحاته الأخيرة الى جانب تصريحات نتنياهو فيما يخص قضية الإعتراف بدولة فلسطين وانسحاب اسرائيل الى حدود أراضي 67 معتبراً أن هذه المواقف غير ايجابية في عملية السلام في الشرق الأوسط ووصف الأجواء التي صاحبت هذه التصريحات في الكونجرس الأمريكي بأنها ” أجواء مزعجة “.

و أظهر داوود أوغلو في الصورة العامة في حديثه للقناة التلفزيونية حرص تركيا الشديد على تحقيق السلام والحرية والديمقراطية في الشرق الاوسط وأن ذلك يعود بالخير على تركيا وعلى جميع دول الجوار.

عكس السير

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