Firas Tlass Offers to Finance Syrian Opposition with Worthless Assets

Firas Tlass Offers to Finance the Syrian Opposition with Worthless Assets
By Joshua Landis
Syria Comment, Sept 27, 2012

Firas Tlass’ company is worthless. The brother of General Manaf Tlass is offering to finance a new Syrian opposition with worthless assets. His company, MAS, is bankrupt. Moreover, he has no access to it. According to knowledgeable sources, MAS, which stands for Min Ajl Suriyya or ‘For the sake of Syria’, was largely a worthless shell of a corporation even before he left the country. Now that he has left and declared himself a leader of the opposition, the Syrian authorities will requisition his assets, if they have not done so already, under Syria’s anti-terrorism law. Both Manaf Tlass and Michel Kilo have already had their assets nationalized under the anti-terrorism law. The Tlass family does not have access to any money in Syria. By offering Syrian assets to finance the opposition, he is offering hot air.

If Firas Tlass were serious about putting up money, he would offer a dollar amount out of his personal assets. Instead he is offering a shell corporation that has been impounded..

Here is the story about Firas by of the Telegraph:

One of Syria’s richest men to help fund a rebel army
The Syrian regime’s richest opponent, the business magnate Firas Tlass has pledged his fortune to the “revolution”, promising to fund rebel groups, humanitarian aid and an organisation to deal with the chaos after President Assad has gone.

The Tlass family has long been a stalwart of the Syrian regime
By , Istanbul, 27 Sep 2012

In his first interview with a western newspaper since leaving Syria, the country’s biggest industrial tycoon has told the Daily Telegraph of how the ownership of his conglomerate of huge companies is to be given to a panel of leading opposition figures, and the profits used to help to build a democratic society in Syria.

“I am supporting a complete program [to oust the regime]. I am putting my fortune behind this, totally, until the end,” said Mr Tlass. “But this is nothing. If I give all my money it is not worth one gram of the blood spilt by the Syrian people.”

The Tlass family has long been a stalwart of the Syrian regime. Mr Firas’ father Mustafa Tlass and Bashar al-Assad’s father Hafez, worked together to bring the Assad family to power. His brother is the defected Brigadier General Manaf Tlass who was a close childhood friend of the Syrian president.

For decades the family benefited from its insider status. Firas Tlass was thought to have been influential on the privatisation process started by the regime in recent decades. Named Min Ajl Suriyya (MAS), or ‘For the sake of Syria’, Mr Tlass’ empire spans several industries in Syria, from roasting coffee beans to construction and is thought to be worth billions of Syrian pounds.

“What Syria gave me I will give it back to Syria,” said Mr Tlass.

After the collapse of the Syrian regime Mr Tlass said he plans to create a non-governmental organisation that will have formal ownership of MAS. “I am preparing the legal papers now. It will be owned by a panel of seven leading figures of the opposition, and I will make the accounts public and transparent,” said Mr Tlass.

The NGO will use the company’s profits to “prepare the people of Syria for new way of thinking”, said Mr Tlass: “My dream is that Syria becomes a real democratic country”.

His antipathy with the Syrian government stretches back for nearly a decade said Mr Tlass. “The Assad family thinks that they own this country and that the people in it are their sheep. Only the family owns the farm. Even us, people close to the regime, we were just seen as their guards. That’s how they work with Syria,” said Mr Tlass, recounting a catalogue of examples where businessmen who had garnered favour with the country’s leadership were given sizeable business contracts.

“In 2005 I made friends with part of the opposition. We put together a study for political, economic and social reform and sent it to Bashar. Two months later I received a cold reply asking me why, as a businessman I was dealing in politics?” said Mr Tlass.

Mr Tlass told the Daily Telegraph that he would never seek a political leadership role in a future Syria, but he dismissed exiled opposition groups, including the bedraggled Syrian National Council as lacking the vision saying Bashar al-Assad would stay in power for “50 more years” if they led the revolution.

Instead he said he would fund a new leadership from “inside Syria”. Refusing to give names he said a number of community leaders from cities across Syria were part of a group being groomed to form a transitional government.

“We need to create a national front, a council of 30 people that can form a transitional council and govern for the period up until the election of a new parliament,” said Mr Tlass.

The council should represent the dozens of groups that currently make up Syria’s fragmented opposition as well as Alawite figures from the ousted regime he said. “The Alawites look to the regime as their representatives, non-regime figures are seen as traitors if they join the opposition. We have to include some of the old guards”.

In the past weeks Mr Tlass had been speaking with key figures of the country’s business elite and working to convince them to join the revolution, he told the Daily Telegraph. As businesses close and the country’s economy slides to a standstill amid the civil war, the country’s commercial core is beginning to jump ship he said. Even business partners of Syria’s biggest businessman and regime loyalist Rami Makhlouf are beginning to move away from the Assad family he said.

“Most of Makhlouf’s business partners are leaving him,” said Mr Tlass. “Now we need the Syrian businessmen from inside and outside the country to group together and provide funds for the opposition”.

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151. areal said:

Everybody in Aleppo knows that the rebels , terrorists and thieves looted the shops of the Old Souk before setting it in fire.
The opposition has now lost all credibility.

Also about #114 and #112 , Mr Bassam Tahhan is a member of the Collectif pour la Syrie , and he is not connected to the Syrian government or the opposition SNC.

http://collectifpourlasyrie.monsite-orange.fr/

Nous constatons que la situation emprunte malheureusement une voie sans issue.
La Syrie se dirige vers l’inconnu.
La Syrie est prise en otage dans un cercle de violence et de désordre sans fin.
Nous tenons tous les belligérants actuels pour responsables.
[We consider that all the current belligerents are responsible.]
Nous le refusons.
Nous refusons également toutes les tentatives d’annuler l’autre ou de s’autoproclamer représentant du peuple syrien.

Conscients des dangers qu’encourent la Syrie et le Peuple Syrien,
Conscients des enjeux régionaux et internationaux et du danger de démantèlement de la Syrie et des pays voisins,

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September 29th, 2012, 3:26 pm

 

152. areal said:

Some truth about Syria by Bassam Tahhan [Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya}

http://www.b-i-infos.com/art2012_Frederic%20SAILLOT_Quelques%20verites%20sur%20le%20Syrie.php

En tout cas si on veut faire un inventaire des mensonges de Jazeera, il y a de quoi remplir les rayons d'une bibliothèque entière.
Et c'est dommage, parce qu'Al Jazeera était bien au départ mais maintenant il a perdu toute crédibilité.
[Al Jazeera has lost all credibilty]

Aussi bien Al Jazeera qu’Al Arabiya, la chaîne rivale lancée par l’Arabie saoudite, et que les arabes appellent Al Hebria, la chaîne hébraïque, ça veut tout dire.

[Al Arabiya has been renamed Al Hebria (the hebraic channel) by the Arabs ]

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September 29th, 2012, 3:41 pm

 

153. Citizen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eToY9tKZhno
Russia-China missile defense? ‘Maybe not right now’

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September 29th, 2012, 4:07 pm

 

154. Syrialover said:

Assad’s latest filthy, hate-driven, primitive animalistic attack on the Syrian nation and heritage: destroying the 2,000 year old Aleppo souk.

And ZOO, AREAL and co, don’t bother boring us with your usual humanity-insulting, moronic propagandist chant of “the rebels are the cause of everything”.

We know forensic evidence uncovered by global academic experts trying to salvage the ruins will prove the government military source of the damage.

You would be serving your hero, Syrian-hating Bashar Assad better if you rushed to Syria and helped put out the flames and evidence mounting.

But hey, what do you care? Let Syria burn.

Article: Ancient market burns as Syrian violence continues.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ancient-market-burns-heritage-sites-at-risk-as-syrian-violence-continues/article4577209/

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September 29th, 2012, 4:10 pm

 

155. Citizen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIhNbiOU-zU&feature=share&list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg
‘Iran neighbors arming up, Bahrain “a good customer” of US unlike Syria’

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September 29th, 2012, 4:14 pm

 

156. zoo said:

The morale of the story if you believes the usual fantasy world of Al Arabya:

When you spy with your plane and you get rescued, you are treated as a war spy and what civilized country do with spies: they torture them to make them talk about their ‘spying mission’ and after that, they are brought to where they were rescued and abandoned to their fate.

Strange, there was no autopsy made on these pilotes. Really, the Turks are careless. Besides that Al Arabya comes with the nth version of the downing of the plane.
Now it was downed by the Syrians by a Grad defense.

If Erdogan wants to be Turkey’s president urgently, he has to hurry

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September 29th, 2012, 4:15 pm

 
 

158. Ghufran said:

انتقد رئيس اتحاد غرف الصناعة السورية وغرفة صناعة حلب فارس الشهابي ما وصفه بتجاهل الحكومة لمطالبة الصناعيين بحماية المدن والمناطق الصناعية، على الرغم من أن هناك اعتداءات مسلحة تتم يومياً على المنشآت الصناعية في حلب «حتى أغلقت المدينة الصناعية في الشيخ نجار».
وقال الشهابي: منذ زمن طويل ونحن نطالب وننادي بحماية المدن والمناطق الصناعية دون أي جدوى، علماً أن المدينة الصناعية لا تحتاج لفرقة عسكرية لحمايتها وإنما لوجود أمني بسيط وهذا ما لم تتم الاستجابة له، حتى إن الحكومة نصحت الصناعيين بتأمين الحماية لأنفسهم ذاتياً وتنصلت من هذا الأمر.
وأوضح الشهابي أن غرفة صناعة حلب قامت بتأسيس «مكتب السلامة المهنية» لتنظيم عملية الحراسة الأمنية الضرورية للمدينة الصناعية بالاعتماد على كوادر مدربة، لكن هذا الحل لم يجد كثيراً لأنه بالأصل غير منطقي إذ يفترض بالحكومة أن تقوم هي بهذا الدور وخاصة أن هذا المكتب يحتاج إلى رصد الأموال ما يحمل المصانع أعباء مادية إضافية لا تستطيع تحملها في هذه الظروف التي يجهد فيها الصناعيون لتأمين مواد الطاقة وبالأسعار المرتفعة جداً، إذ إن الحد الأعلى لرسم السلامة المهنية يصل إلى 30 ألف ليرة، مجدداً المطالبة بأن تتولى الجهات الأمنية المختصة حماية المدينة الصناعية بشكل مباشر حينما تسمح الظروف وبأقرب وقت.
بدوره حذّر رئيس غرف السياحة في سورية رامي مارتيني من خطورة التدهور الأمني في حلب على القطاع السياحي، وقال: إن جميع منشآت المدينة القديمة في حلب تحت النيران والخطر، موضحاً أن القطاع السياحي اليوم بات منكوباً بكل معنى الكلمة.
Some of you are dancing around the issue and do not have the courage to admit that the attack on Aleppo by the rebels was an evil decision that has a mix of stupidity and vengeance , playing with words does not change the reality,after all, it was Allepines not those militants or regime thugs who will suffer for years to come, enjoy the ruins and keep your heads in the sand.

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September 29th, 2012, 4:28 pm

 

159. Syrialover said:

When medical scientists do a post mortem on Bashar Assad they will find a wizened dog turd instead of a brain.

Here’s historian David Lesch, who got close to Assad and knew him well, explaining what he discovered was going in inside Assad’s undersized head (and still shrinking daily):

David Lesch:

“… I think he just stopped thinking about it [reform] especially as he began to believe in the propaganda of the well-being of the country being synonymous with his own well-being.

“I think I quote Peter Harling [of the International Crisis Group], and I agree with him, that the Syrian regimes have a very low opinion of the people in Syria, that it’s a sick country, that it constantly needs tending by a regime that takes care of it. And I think once he bought into that notion that any serious political reform along the democratic model, or more pluralism, went out the window until it was way too late.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/to-know-a-tyrant-inside-bashar-al-assads-transformation-from-reformer-to-killer/262486/

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September 29th, 2012, 4:38 pm

 

160. Tara said:

Zoo

Very good point. How come there was no autopsy performed on those pilots? Autopsy can easily determine the mechanism of death? Foul playing or drowning? Or Did Erdogan know all along? Is this going to turn out scandalous?

Whatever it is, I feel Erdogan is stuck. He will be viewed very negatively if he
does not respond aggressively enough. Where is the Turkish pride?

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September 29th, 2012, 4:41 pm

 

161. Syrialover said:

ZOO and AREAL and co. I am assuming that Lesch has had much more extensive direct contact with Bashar Assad than you (note, I am doing you the generous courtesy of not saying you must be personally familiar with the regime’s inner court – but who knows).

So is Lesch wrong? (quoted in #159)

Or can you offer alternative insight into the Assad regime’s thinking, based on sources with direct contact with Bashar and his circle?

Let’s hear it.

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September 29th, 2012, 4:54 pm

 

162. Syrialover said:

ZOO, I am assuming also that you have your different sources within Aleppo? (#115 and #124)

Interesting. So do I.

I think you are going to struggle to rearrange your words and facial expression when the facts come out in future inquiries.

I won’t.

OBSERVER in #121 and #122 gets what you are trying on.

Yet another call to lift your game here.

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September 29th, 2012, 5:14 pm

 

163. Syrialover said:

Restorative justice in post-Assad Syria should include those pot-bellied regime apparatchiks and pseudo-military thugs running the army being put in chain gangs to rebuild Syria’s infrastructure and heritage buildings.

Their prison should be the open air of the ruins, and they should be fed according to the amount of work they do.

Slob Walid Moallam would quickly become the size of Asma Assad, whose recent photos suggest she is now suffering from anorexia.

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September 29th, 2012, 5:36 pm

 

164. Syrialover said:

GHUFRAN #158

Speaking out of separate sides of your mouth again!

Syrian-hater Bashar Assad is spitefully burning the country. And many, many millions of people in Syria are hearing, smelling, feeling and seeing it.

An experience they can never forgive and forget.

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September 29th, 2012, 5:48 pm

 

165. areal said:

In some countries , Syria’s current foreign policy is viewed as the problem.

In Syria , President Assad is not the problem , he is an essential part of the solution.

Although Churchill led Britain as Prime Minister until victory over Nazi Germany had been secured , his party lost the 1945 election but he is now widely regarded as being among the most influential people in British history.

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September 29th, 2012, 5:52 pm

 

166. Juergen said:

Der Spiegel has some images of the part of the souq which was destroyed, I assume its this small tourist souq near the citadel

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/bilderstrecke-fotostrecke-87984.html

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September 29th, 2012, 6:10 pm

 

167. Tara said:

Transferring the pilots to HA was a suggestion made by General Bassam but was rejected later on in favor of murdering them.  More to come to expose HA’s involvement in “al Qaeda” wide-sacle bombing incidents to later blame it on “terrorists”    

“Based on information and guidance from the Russian leadership comes a need to eliminate the two Turkish pilots detained by the Special Operations Unit in a natural way and their bodies need to be returned to the crash site in international waters,” the document reportedly said.

One document reportedly indicated that Assad was willing to consider a suggestion by a general “Bassam” to transfer the two crewmembers to Lebanon, where they will be held captive by Hezbollah in order to serve as bargaining chips in a later time.

However, this suggestion was eventually rejected, the documents reportedly indicated, without specifying the points against it.

Al Arabiya claims to be in possession of hundreds of classified documents that shed light on the details of an Iranian and Russian involvement in the Assad regime, showing, among other claims, that Damascus’ two allies formed a joint command in Syria.

Furthermore, the leaked papers are said to indicate Hezbollah’s key role in assassinating key Syrian activists as well as orchestrating large-scale bombing attacks in order to sow chaos and instability in the war-torn country. 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/report-acting-on-russian-intel-syria-forces-murdered-pilots-of-downed-turkey-jet-1.467457

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September 29th, 2012, 6:20 pm

 

168. mjabali said:

Visitor said:

“I do not recall there is such school of thought called sufism.”

Little man saying larger than life statements. I am waiting for the “Visitor” to explain this.

Sufism has people like Muhiey al-Din Ibn Arabi that is, who by himself is a stalwart figure that is a school of thought by him self. If Ibn Arabi does not have a Sufi school of thought, who does have a school of thought in this Middle East?

If you are negating Ibn Arabi, and al-Rumi and al-Hallaj that means that you live under a rock.

Speaking of living under rocks, Wahabism came from such an environment. Wahabism wants its followers to live under rocks and not see or mingle with other people. If they mingle with other people, Wahabism instructs its adherents to look at these other people as something less than them. This explains the haughty tone of the likes of this “visitor.”

It is low times عصر الانحطاط when a man with average education negates the existence of something as shiny as the Sun called Sufis and Sufism. Sufism is superior to Wahabism at any given day.

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September 29th, 2012, 6:35 pm

 

169. Visitor said:

SYRIALOVER 164 said,

“Speaking out of separate sides of your mouth again!”

SL,

The correct and more accurate expression is speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

The difference is obvious. From both sides means at the same time and in the same statement. While separate sides does not necessarily imply simultaneity or in the same statement.

You have to give those who practice this form of speech their proper dues. It takes a lot of practice as well as artistic skills to do it from both sides of the mouth. Anyone can do it from separate sides but it does not have the same effect.

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September 29th, 2012, 6:40 pm

 

170. Citizen said:

bey bey Ambassador Susan Rice !
Rep. King: U.S. Amb. to UN should resign

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September 29th, 2012, 6:51 pm

 

171. Visitor said:

168 MJ,

I could easily tell when you do not consult with your trusted dog when you try to say something but instead you stutter like a child.

In this comment (168) MJ was speaking and not the dog. The dog cannot make such a dumb comment.

OK, I’ll make it simple for you. I asked the person concerned in my previous comment specific questions. The easiest of course is the origin of the name. You could at least have volunteered to provide an explanation to that simple question instead of going on such a diversion.

There are other questions of course in that comment and if you feel capable then by all means, and do not forget to consult your dog to avoid your usual and recurring pitfalls.

As for the persons you mentioned, there was no indication in my other comment whatsoever regarding their negation. You could have at least asked me directly whether I negate them or not. But I will volunteer a direct answer without you even asking.

As for Hallaj, I do not regret his execution.

As for al-Rumi, I am an admirer.

As for Muhyi al-Din, I have great reservations about him and definitely not an admirer.

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September 29th, 2012, 6:55 pm

 

172. Syrialover said:

AREAL #165.

You are hilarious! The best laugh I’ve had for days.

But yes, Syria-hater Assad IS part of the solution. Eliminating him will help things a lot.

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September 29th, 2012, 7:02 pm

 

173. Visitor said:

How can any one take the Zoo’s claim in comment 156 At face value?

We have known the Zoo to be the biggest fabricator of news on this site when he is speaking his own words and not spamming from his usual sources of SANA and its subsidiaries.

SC is turning into the biggest propaganda machine west of 33 degrees and 30 minutes North (that’s Damscus latitude in case you haven’t noticed).

An autopsy was performed in July,

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/autopsy-on-downed-jets-pilots-reveals-cause-of-death-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=24880&NewsCatID=341

Guys, the Turks may have not performed up to what is expected so far but they are not dumb.

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September 29th, 2012, 7:48 pm

 

174. Syrialover said:

ZOO, I repeat my sincere question in #161.

Can you offer any alternative insight into the Assad regime’s thinking, based on sources with direct contact with Bashar and his circle?

In other words, can you explain what beliefs are fuelling your own drivers and rationale?

Your posts give the message that whatever Assad’s view of Syria is, it sits OK with you.

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September 29th, 2012, 7:54 pm

 

175. Syrialover said:

I repeat: When medical scientists do a post mortem on Bashar Assad they will find a wizened dog turd instead of a brain.

A brain made of the same rotten substance that infects all the parasites and thugs clinging on board with him.

The toxic stench coming from the Assad regime has shocked and sickened the entire world.

And those defending the regime on this site will have that stink attached to them for the rest of their lives. In the pores of their skin, in their hair, their clothes and everything they touch.

It can’t be deodorized or ignored. People will smell it and be repulsed.

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September 29th, 2012, 8:20 pm

 

176. Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:

Visitor, it wasn’t my intention to start a religious debate with you. There wouldn’t be much of a point to that as your questions and comments show little knowledge on such matters. What I would suggest is that you pick up a book to find answers to your questions. You could start with Haqa’iq `an al-Tasawwuf, written by the late Hanafi jurisprudent and Shaykh of the Shadhili Tariqa in HALAB, Sayyidna Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir `Isa radiAllahu `anhu. In it he also explains the relevance and origin of the term “Sufism”. (page 9-10 http://shazly.com/download.php?name=7aqaeq.pdf ). This book should answer most of the questions people might have concerning Sufism, and it has been translated to English: http://www.sunnipubs.com/en/-our-english-publications?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=204&category_id=2

And for articles, try http://marifah.net

I wonder though, who told you the term comes from sophistry? And who told you Sufism is or is claimed to be a school of thought? For your basic information and that of others, Sufism is an Islamic science pertaining to inner states, similar to how jurisprudence relates to acts or theology to creed. A Sufi is a scholar of said science, like a Faqih or a Mutakallim for the others. And like other sciences, it CONTAINS schools of thought (Tariqat in this case, Madhahib and Madaris for the others).

Generally speaking Wahhabism rejects ALL of this, not just Sufism, and replaces it with an anthropomorphic creed, do-it-yourself jurisprudence and materialism instead of spirituality, accompanied by an anathematizing attitude towards the Muslim community and its scholarship, traditions and history.

Muhammad Ibn `Abd al-Wahhab contravened the Hanbali school on many points which he was reprimanded for by its scholars of the time. Read their books. The first amongst them were his own father Shaykh `Abd al-Wahhab, and his brother Shaykh Sulayman Ibn `Abd al-Wahhab. Your admiration for Rumi and reservations about Ibn `Arabi shows that you know little of what this cult is about, which in this case is quite hopeful. I don’t know how you can reject Sufism without rejecting Rumi. Either way, whatever you wish to believe and whoever you wish to follow is up to you.

The point of my comment was something else: you are claiming to speak in the name of Syrian Muslims when you praise the Saudi destruction of our religion in the Hijaz. But as you are Syrian, you should know better than that. Whether you like Sufism or not, its presence in Syria is overwhelming to the point of being the most famous country for it in the world. There are more shrines of Awliya in Syria, and more Sufi scholars, than there are Wahhabi laymen there, even today. If you want to be in denial of this then be my guest. What you should know however is that any attempt to impose the Wahhabi heresy upon the people in the way that this has happened in the Hijaz and elsewhere, will not only fail, but will be violently resisted.

The Revolution of the Sufi Scholars
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/category/scholars-respond/

Most of all, my comments were meant for all people here who are not Wahhabi and might get the wrong impression of Islam or Syrian Muslims, not to mention the revolution, by dealing with you.

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September 29th, 2012, 9:07 pm

 

177. Visitor said:

176 HH,

I know those books and many others like them HH. These are kids play and no one in his right mind would give them any credence in this age of knowledge.

For you to call Sufism a science is a stretch to the word to say the least.

I want specific answers from you to specific questions. As an intelligent being you should be able to do at least tat much without asking for help or guidance from any presumed master sheikh or tariqa as you call it.

I said I do not regret al-Hallaj’s execution because I had reasons for that. I also admire Rumi because I have reasons. My reservations towards Arabi also have reasons behind them.

Whe I defend Abd al-Wahhab (Muhammad), I do not defend him blindly. His father did not criticize him not because he disagreed with him. His father was thinking of his son’s future in his own way of looking at things. He wanted his son to become a mufti and make money after finishing what the father thought was enough knowledge for the period tey were in. Does that remind of some Syrian mashayekh of today? Do the names Hassoun and Buti ring a bell? The Hanbali mazhab was pretty much extinct at the time and there was not much material value from the father’s point of view to explore it. The son was not satisfied with what he saw and went against his father’s wishes. But it turned out that the son was after something as he discerned that the ills plaguing his coreligionists are no different than those that plagued those of Hanbal’s time. In many respects he was right.

I also do not want to enter into a religious debate. But those questions should not lead to such debate. You should be able to answers them easily.

And please, I do not need references. I have lots as I told you.

Again neither you nor any so-called master Sheikh can say Abd alwahhab is heretic and be taken seriously.

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September 29th, 2012, 9:35 pm

 

178. ann said:

4 Turks killed in clashes with Syrian troops near Idlib, battles drag on elsewhere – 2012-09-30

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-09/30/c_123781700.htm

• Four Turks were among other gunmen, who were killed Saturday by the Syrian troops near Idlib.
• SANA: Syrian troops have carried out qualitative operations in Aleppo.
• Syrian Foreign Minister resumed official meetings at the UN headquarter in New York on Saturday.

DAMASCUS, Sept. 29 (Xinhua) — Four Turks were among other gunmen, who were killed Saturday by the Syrian troops near Syria’s northwestern province of Idlib, the state-TV said, as clashes and violence continued elsewhere.

The confrontation took place at the town of Taftanas in the countryside of Idlib, the state-TV said.

The Syrian government has repeatedly accused Turkey of facilitating the inroads of armed groups into Syria.

Meanwhile, the raging clashes between the government troops and the armed rebels in the northern province of Aleppo have taken the lion’s share of the headlines Saturday.

The state-run SANA news agency said the Syrian troops have carried out qualitative operations at Sheikh Lutfi district in Aleppo, killing and injuring scores of “terrorists” — a term used by the Syrian government to brand the rebels.

The troops also killed scores of armed men at the districts of al-Sakhour, Khan al-Asal and near al-Hamza mosque in Aleppo.

In Tal al-Zarazir area, 22 armed men were killed by the Syrian troops, according to SANA.

Meanwhile, a Syrian military source stressed Saturday that the Syrian troops have wrested back control over two rebel-held areas in the fighting-stricken Aleppo province.

The unnamed source, who was quoted by SANA, said the Syrian troops are in full control over the al-Amirieh and Tal Zarazir districts in Aleppo.

“Our forces will proceed in eliminating the terrorist mercenaries in all areas of Aleppo,” the source said.

The battles in Aleppo, Syria’s largest city and commercial hub, have been raging since Thursday when the armed rebels announced the commencement of the “decisive battle” in a bid to bring down Aleppo.

Despite their threats, the rebels managed to ramp up the chaos in Aleppo and elsewhere, but so far have failed to make big achievements on ground.

However, the intense fighting has further started to threat the old heritage of the city.

In a video posted by activists onto YouTube, huge fire that apparently resulted from the intense clashes in Aleppo has engulfed the medieval marketplace, whose labyrinth of narrow alleys and shops was a stomping ground for tourists.

The old souks are also regarded by the UNESCO as world heritage.

The video also showed the fire while eating the old wooden doors of the old shops that sell everything such as foodstuff, fabrics, perfumes, spices and artisan souvenirs, while making its way up to cloud the sky over the old part of the city.

Also, intense violence engulfed Saturday near the Syrian capital of Damascus, as clashes and gunfire escalated during the day in the suburbs of Qudsiah, Harasta and Barzeh, according to witnesses, who said many residents of Qudsiah opted to leave their homes in anticipation of intense fighting.

In Harasta, clashes renewed and the situation “doesn’t bode well,” a witness said.

In Barzeh, intense clashes were reported to have been taking place at the orchard area connecting Barzeh to Harasta.

Clashes in the suburbs of Damascus have become increasingly common despite the lull every now and then in those areas.

Meanwhile, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem resumed official meetings at the UN headquarter in New York on Saturday on the sidelines of the 67th session of the UN General Assembly, the foremost of which is his meeting with Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN-Arab League joint special envoy to Syria, who is roaming the influential countries in order to come up with a workable peace plan to Syria after his predecessor Kofi Annan failed to materialize that.

According to SANA, al-Moallem discussed with Brahimi his mission in Syria, stressing that the success of Brahimi’s mission depends basically on stopping supporting, funding and arming the ” armed terrorist groups” as a way to start the national dialogue.

[...]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-09/30/c_123781700.htm

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September 29th, 2012, 10:04 pm

 

179. Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:

Visitor, so instead of a debate you want an interview? I’m not interested in that either. You don’t seem to get the point, I simply see no benefit in discussing religion with you.

Muhammad Ibn `Abd al-Wahhab
By Imam `Abdullah Ibn Humayd al-Hanbali
http://marifah.net/articles/abdulwahhab-ibnhumayd.pdf

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September 29th, 2012, 10:38 pm

 

180. ann said:

Aleppo: “FSA” Expressway to Paradise ;)

Warning: Snack bar

http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Syria&sort_by=date&page=6

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September 29th, 2012, 10:52 pm

 

181. Visitor said:

179 HH,

You see it was you who did not want he deBate and I agreed. I was looking for intelligent answers to specific questions giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are able to answer on your own without resorting to so called master sheikh or guidance from references that I tod you already I have lots of.

So again why does a murdered have to behave like a dead body in the hand of a mere mortal so-called master sheikh who is often of dubious background?

Has Sufism which may have been at some point in time relevant transformed into a tariqa to make unsuspecting innocent lost souls into robots or drones in the hands of vulture? Do you not think this to be a valid question?

How do you know that the so-called master sheikh is not a dajjal seeking unsuspecting victims among the innocent seekers of truth?

What is makrama? How do you recognize or measure it?

Is Sufism, the word, derived from wool wearer? Or are they the same Greek sophists?
Could they be the so-called ikhwan al-safa? Where do you find justifications for such tariqas in the Book and Sunnah? Do you understand the Qura’n?

Was ghazali, the imam of thousand years, ago a follower of any tariqa? Did he need a master sheikh in order to practice Sufism if he ever did?

Was Abd Alqadir al-Jaylani a Hanbali jurisprudent? Did he practice Sufism? If so, is it known that he ever pronounced such blasphemous utterings as it is well known to happen with Sufi practitioners in a state which they call trance or ‘spiritual’ ecstasy? If You know that Jaylani never exhibited such behavior then why is he different than other Sufis?

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September 29th, 2012, 11:09 pm

 

182. ann said:

Thierry Meyssan : Al Qaeda attaque le ministère Syrien de la Défense

Warning: Snack Bar

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September 29th, 2012, 11:10 pm

 

183. mjabali said:

Thumbs up Visitor:

Other than manipulating the thumbs ups and down you did not give anything worth noting or commenting on.

You want to convince me and the readers of this blog that you know where the word Sufi came from. Hahaha haaa haaa hahahaha…you made me laugh for real.

روح العب ياولد

As Hamoudeh al-Halabi said there is no point in arguing with you. Where is your debate book to debunk what Hamoudeh al-Halabi wrote?

You can not. He left you in the dust. He provided knowledge and you provided noise.

What you brought was nothing compared to the well composed comments he offered. Thanks to smart and articulate people like him.

Before I go, here is a very interesting link from a Sufi site regarding how the founder of Wahabism and Wahabism itself are just danger to humanity:

http://www.soufia.org/brahin_sataa.html

By the way: you never provided any answer to your outlandish statement : ““I do not recall there is such school of thought called sufism”

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September 29th, 2012, 11:18 pm

 

184. ann said:

Homs: Game Over for the Terrorist Battalion in Rastan Khaled ibn Walid – 26/9/2012

Warning: Snack Bar

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=363_1348920994

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September 29th, 2012, 11:24 pm

 

185. ann said:

Britons Among Foreign Fighters in Syria

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=032_1348879056

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September 29th, 2012, 11:30 pm

 

186. ann said:

Please Forgive and take us back instead of Alahu Akbar! ;)

Game Over: Terrorists in Syria Renouncing Terror or Dying in Droves

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=061_1348849592

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September 29th, 2012, 11:52 pm

 

187. ann said:

DAMASCUS, September 26 (Xinhua) — In an unprecedented event, five
Syrian military defectors who had sided with the rebel Free Syrian Army

(FSA) dashed through a meeting of opposition parties in the capital
Damascus on Wednesday, admitting that they were wrong and that holding
weapons will not solve the Syrian crisis.

Three officers, two warrant officers and six civilians, who had sided with the FSA, dashed
through a conference of Syrian opposition at home on Wednesday. “After
we had defected our military posts and worked with the armed groups, we
figured that the solution to the Syrian crisis can’t be achieved by
holding weapons,” they told the conference.

Lieutenant-Colonel Khaled Abdul-Rahman al-Zalem, a defected officer who served as the
deputy chief of the rebels’ military council, told the conference that
“the solution can’t be achieved through holding weapons, blasts,
sabotage or killing the innocent, but repenting from the wrongdoing and
through political means.”

For his side, Yaser al-Abed, who ran an armed insurgent group in the northern Aleppo province, addressed the conference and called on those who have carried weapons to slow down.
“Work your minds and know that holding weapons is nothing but a
violation to the minds and freedom alike,” he said.

“Syria is our home and honour, but they wanted to burn it. The most targeted things
are our religion, nation and land,” al-Abed said. “I have known all
that, and that is why I have decided to lay down my weapon to be a
loving person who seeks the good and the humanity.”

[...]

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September 30th, 2012, 12:04 am

 

188. Visitor said:

183 ربلاوي

If there is anyone I care the least about convincing on this board or anyone else it is you ya Ziblawi.

You just injected yourself in a conversation that was not meant for you and what did you come up with other than a stupid diversion?

إيه روح بلا اكل هوا وعلاك فاضي

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September 30th, 2012, 12:58 am

 

189. Syrialover said:

New thread started.

Which is good, we don’t have to scroll wearily past the 10 new junk cut and pastes just dumped here by “Ann”.

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September 30th, 2012, 1:02 am

 

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