The Six Words You Need to Know to Be a Successful Jihadi and Establish Your Own Caliphate

by Mohammad D for Syria Comment

 

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the newly minted caliph of the “Islamic State,” chose the first Friday of Ramadan to make his first public appearance—ever. Until now he has worked outside the limelight, and the almost complete absence of his image in public media had generated a sense of mystique around his persona. Now, he has given a public sermon and led prayers at an impressive mosque in Mosul, available in the below video:

Shortly prior, the Islamic State (formerly ISIS, now simply IS), had declared through its spokesperson Abu Muhammad al-‘Adnani that it was establishing a khilafa (“caliphate”) in the land it controls in Syrian and Iraqi territory, over which the ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was to be the khalifa (خليفة الله في الأرض, “caliph”). Muslims have now been asked to swear allegiance to this new khilafa.

This comes at the chagrin of many other jihadis who had hoped to beat him to it, who had previously tried and failed, or who had a more “right” approach to doing so. No matter: now that we all know it’s doable, perhaps you’d also like to try your hand at the caliphate game? Here’s a handy manual of the primary words to keep ever upon your tongue as you move through the stages of establishing your own caliphate…

Every jihadi speech contains key words that sum up their purpose and express their objectives.  The concepts behind these terms constitute the building blocks for the establishment of khilafa and can help explain the recent rise of ISIS/IS and al-Baghdadi.

The following 6 terms correspond to consecutive stages integral to actualizing the jihadi goal and reveal much about the beliefs that motivate jihadis.

 

1 al-Taqwa التقوى

Al-taqwa simply means performing what Allah has ordered of you.  It is to obey Allah’s wishes as well as to fear him.  “Ittaqi Allah,” a widely used phrase, means fear Allah and obey his wishes.  This readiness to follow Allah’s will is an important stage of being that you must reach before embarking on your mission.  Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in almost all of his speeches, asks the Muslims to be muttaqiin and to yattaqu Allah, both of which mean to do what Allah has set forth in the Qur’an.

In his speech, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi first quoted from the Qur’an’s sura “‘Umran,” verse 102:

يَاأَيُّهَاالَّذِينَآمَنُوااتَّقُوااللَّهَحَقَّتُقَاتِهِوَلَاتَمُوتُنَّإِلَّاوَأَنْتُمْمُسْلِمُونَ

“O you who have believed, fear Allah as He should be feared and do not die except as Muslims [in submission to Him].”

Al-Baghdadi then quotes the sura “al-Ahzab” verses 70-71:

يَاأَيُّهَاالَّذِينَآَمَنُوااتَّقُوااللَّهَوَقُولُواقَوْلًاسَدِيدًايُصْلِحْلَكُمْأَعْمَالَكُمْوَيَغْفِرْلَكُمْذُنُوبَكُمْوَمَنْيُطِعِاللَّهَوَرَسُولَهُفَقَدْفَازَفَوْزًاعَظِيمًا

“O you who have believed, fear Allah and speak words of appropriate justice. He will [then] amend for you your deeds and forgive you your sins. And whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly attained a great attainment.”

In the second part of his speech, al-Baghdadi told his audience that to yataqqu Allah and begin jihad for his sake is necessary whether they want security, work, or an honorable living.

 

2 al-Nafeer  النفير

Al-nafeer means, in the jihadi context, mobilization to join the battle.  It is the initial step: the switch from life as a civilian citizen of a certain nation-state to the role of a mujahid who obeys a new set of specific rules.  The term is drawn from many Qur’anic verses that mention al-nafeer.  Anytime a jihadi wants to recruit someone, he invokes al-nafeer and, of course, the related verses in the Qur’an.  Also, it is used anytime someone wants to collect money for Jihad.

Al-Nafeer connotes having left everything, making the decision to join the fight, ready to die.  The derived verb is nafara نفر(past tense) or yanfuru ينفر(present tense).  When someone Yanfur ila Sahat al-Ma’raka (ينفرإلى ساحة المعركة), it means he is ready to die, and is expecting to die with a “guarantee” for a better existence in the afterlife. When a person decides to yanfur (join the fight), jihadists say that he is allowed to disobey his parents and the authorities and is no longer beholden to any laws but those of Islam (and, of course, his sect’s interpretation of Islam).  The governments that are fighting the mobilization of their kids for jihad raise this issue frequently, featuring the arguments of religious scholars who oppose the jihadist interpretation.

Of Qur’anic verses mentioning al-nafeer, three are most significant. These verses are loaded with interpretive meaning, and much has been written about them. It is common to hear them referred to in speeches, tweets, sermons, and so forth.

a) إنفِرُواْ خِفَافًا وَثِقَالاً وَجَاهِدُواْ بِأَمْوَالِكُمْ وَأَنفُسِكُمْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ذَلِكُمْ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ

Translation: “Go forth, whether light or heavy, and perform jihad with your wealth and your lives in the cause of Allah. That is better for you, if you only knew” (Qur’an 9:41).

In this verse Allah is ordering the Muslims to conduct al-nafeer, light or heavy.  “Light” means you leave your home with nothing.  “Heavy” means you leave your country for the land of jihad with money, equipment, etc.  The verse then issues the command to join al-jihad with your money and yourself.  Here, in common interpretations, those who cannot go make jihad physically are charged to fundraise on behalf of those who can.  The belief is that if you prepare a person for jihad (i.e. finance his preparedness for battle), you will be considered as though you have gone to wage jihad yourself.

b) يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ مَا لَكُمْ إِذَا قِيلَ لَكُمُ انفِرُواْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ اثَّاقَلْتُمْ إِلَى الأَرْضِ أَرَضِيتُم بِالْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا مِنَ الآخِرَةِ فَمَا مَتَاعُ الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا فِي الآخِرَةِ إِلاَّ قَلِيلٌ

Translation: “O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth [derived imperative of nafeer] in the cause of Allah, you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the hereafter except a [very] little” (Qur’an 9:38).

This verse is used to admonish those considered lazy, who prefer the contentment of their normal lives over making jihad, neglecting to appreciate the magnitude of the afterlife.  (Of course, the afterlife of he who joins jihad is Paradise.)

c) إِلاَّ تَنفِرُواْ يُعَذِّبْكُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا وَيَسْتَبْدِلْ قَوْمًا غَيْرَكُمْ وَلاَ تَضُرُّوهُ شَيْئًا وَاللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ

Translation:  “If you do not go forth, He will punish you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another people, and you will not harm Him at all. And Allah is over all things competent” (Qur’an 9:39).

In this verse Allah says that if you do not do mobilize (derived verbal form from nafeer) you are going to be tortured severely, and you and your people are going to be substituted by others by Allah, the one able to do anything.

In his speech, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi underscored the importance of joining Jihad, because, according to him, Allah had ordered it so that Islam could be established.

Here is a link to a video in which a Tunisian fighter explains the importance of nafeer and calls people to do nafeer “light” or “heavy:”

 

3 – al-Ribaat الرباط

For jihadis, al-Ribaat refers to the time spent at the battlefront.  Ard al-Ribaat أرض الرباط means the land where the battle occurs or is about to take place, against the enemy.  The verb raabata رابط (past tense) or yuraabitu يرابط (present tense) means to spend time in the trenches.  The concept is highly revered among Muslims, especially by jihadis.  The frontlines are also sometimes referred to as al-thughur الثغور.  Keep in mind that all of these words are rarely used in everyday language and have vastly different meanings when used in the modern era.

Al-Ribaat is mentioned in the Qur’an:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اصْبِرُوا وَصَابِرُوا وَرَابِطُوا وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ

Translation: “O you who have believed, persevere and endure and remain stationed and fear Allah that you may be successful” (Qur’an 3:200).

And in the hadith we find emphasis on rewards for those who observe ribaat:

a) رباط يوم في سبيل الله خير من الدنيا وما عليها

Translation: “Observing ribaat for a single day is far better than the world and all that it contains.”

b) رباط يوم وليلة خير من صيام شهر وقيامه، وإن مات فيه جرى عليه عمله الذي كان يعمل وأجري عليه رزقه وأمن من الفتان

Translation:  “Observing ribaat in the way of Allah is far better than fasting in the month of Ramadan and all the nighttime worship activities that are associated with that month.  And, if one dies while observing ribaat he will go on receiving his reward for his meritorious deeds perpetually and he will be saved from calamities.”

c) رباطيوم في سبيل الله خير من ألف يوم فيما سواه من المنازل

Translation: “Observing a day of ribaat for the sake of Allah is better than a thousand days in any other place.”

d)كل ميت يختم على عمله إلا المرابط في سبيل الله فإنه ينمي له عمله إلى يوم القيامة، ويؤمن من فتنة القبر

In this Hadith we see that whoever does ribaat for the sake of Allah is exempted from the calamities that happen between death and judgment day (special “tortures of the grave” exacted by Allah on the sinful while still in their graves, prior to the judgment).

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi regularly speaks of ribaat, though in his speech he only alluded to it without using the word. In the following video, a missionary of jihad mentions more hadith about al-Ribaat:

 

4 – al-Thabaat  الثبات

Al-thabaat means steadfastness, or to be able to hold your lines in the fight.  It also means to stick to your beliefs, and in this case, your decision to fight.  It is the ability to stay put in the face of adversity in the “arenas of jihad.”  In their speeches, many jihadis call for the strength to stay true to the goal.  Many historical references are made in conjunction with this term, most importantly to events from the days of the Prophet Mohammad, such as the battle of Uhud.  Frequent references to Qur’anic verses mentioning the term are made.

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا لَقِيتُمْ فِئَةً فَاثْبُتُوا وَاذْكُرُوا اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ

Translation: “O you who have believed, when you encounter a company [from the enemy forces], stand firm and remember Allah much that you may be successful” (Qur’an 8:45).

This above verse is used by jihadis on a regular basis.  It asks the believers to hold their position and pray to Allah when faced with adversaries in battle.  It is therefore very important to every jihadi to read the Qur’an and hadith and to mention Allah whenever he is in battle.  The word “Allah” and the adjectives normally attached to it are abundant in jihadi rhetoric, sprinkled within almost every sentence any jihadi utters.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdai mentioned al-thabaat in the second part of his speech.  He beseeched Allah to “yuthabet” (hold firm) the feet of the mujahideen. The Qur’anic references for al-Baghdadi are these verses:

ولمابرزوالجالوتوجنودهقالواربناأفرغعليناصبراوثبتأقدامناوانصرناعلىالقومالكافرين

Translation: “And when they went forth to [face] Goliath and his soldiers, they said, ‘Our Lord, pour upon us patience and plant firmly our feet and give us victory over the disbelieving people’” (Qur’an 2:250)

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنْ تَنْصُرُوا اللَّهَ يَنْصُرْكُمْ وَيُثَبِّتْ أَقْدَامَكُمْ

Translation: “O you who have believed, if you support Allah, He will support you and plant firmly your feet” (Qur’an 47:7).

Al-thabaat also has a lot to do with courage.  It is very common to hear every jihadi and suicide bomber include the word thabaat in their speeches—even Chechens and other non-Arabic-speakers use this word prolifically.  A very common phrase is to ask Allah for al-thabaat: “…نسأل من الله الثبات”

 

5 – al-Tamkeen التمكين

Al-tamkeen means simply to be able to control what you have taken and establish yourself within it.  The Qur’an provides the basis for the concept of tamkeen as something done over a piece of land.  At this stage the group must create the infrastructure of a state. Islamic scholars have, of course, written volumes about it, but the basic idea is conveyed by the following Qur’anic verse:

وَنُرِيدُ أَنْ نَمُنَّ عَلَى الَّذِينَ اسْتُضْعِفُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنَجْعَلَهُمْ أَئِمَّةً وَنَجْعَلَهُمُ الْوَارِثِينَ   وَنُمَكِّنَ لَهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنُرِيَ فِرْعَوْنَ وَهَامَانَ وَجُنُودَهُمَا مِنْهُمْ مَا كَانُوا يَحْذَرُونَ

Translation: “And We wanted to confer favor upon those who were oppressed in the land and make them leaders and make them inheritors, and establish them in the land” (Qur’an 28:5-6).

الَّذِينَ إِنْ مَكَّنَّاهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ أَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتَوُا الزَّكَاةَ وَأَمَرُوا بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَنَهَوْا عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ ۗ وَلِلَّهِ عَاقِبَةُ الْأُمُور

Translation: “Those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters” (Qur’an 22:41).

وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْكُمْ وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ لَيَسْتَخْلِفَنَّهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ كَمَا اسْتَخْلَفَ الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِمْ وَلَيُمَكِّنَنَّ لَهُمْ دِينَهُمُ الَّذِي ارْتَضَىٰ لَهُمْ وَلَيُبَدِّلَنَّهُمْ مِنْ بَعْدِ خَوْفِهِمْ أَمْنًا ۚ يَعْبُدُونَنِي لَا يُشْرِكُونَ بِي شَيْئًا ۚ وَمَنْ كَفَرَ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْفَاسِقُونَ

وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ

Translation: “Allah has promised those who have believed among you and done righteous deeds that He will surely grant them succession [to authority] upon the earth just as He granted it to those before them and that He will surely establish for them [therein] their religion which He has preferred for them and that He will surely substitute for them, after their fear, security, [for] they worship Me, not associating anything with Me. But whoever disbelieves after that – then those are the defiantly disobedient.  And establish prayer and give zakah and obey the Messenger – that you may receive mercy” (Qur’an 24:55-56).

In his speech, al-Baghdadi stressed this concept.  He said that having the might to do tamkeen is part of observing Islam correctly (being able to force others to do what you believe is right), and quoted this verse:

لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلَنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَنْزَلْنَا مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْمِيزَانَ لِيَقُومَ النَّاسُ بِالْقِسْطِ ۖ وَأَنْزَلْنَا الْحَدِيدَ فِيهِ بَأْسٌ شَدِيدٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَلِيَعْلَمَ اللَّهُ مَنْ يَنْصُرُهُ وَرُسُلَهُ بِالْغَيْبِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ قَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ

“We have already sent Our messengers with clear evidences and sent down with them the Scripture and the balance that the people may maintain [their affairs] in justice. And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people, and so that Allah may make evident those who support Him and His messengers unseen. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might” (Qur’an 57:25).

After using this Qur’anic text, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi shouted a slogan of ISIS (the “foundation of religion” phrase from Ibn Taymiyah which is very important for jihadis), which is as follows: “The foundation of the religion is a book that leads and a sword that supports it” (قوام الدين كتاب يهدي وسيف ينصر).

The concept of tamkeen can explain why jihadis make the call for prayer every time they overrun a post.  In their creed, the power to raise your voice in the call to prayer is a sign of tamkeen—that you have control over the place.  The verbal form of this word is also used when ISIS soldiers are leading prisoners of war or after they behead someone, in such phrases as: “We thank Allah who made us control their necks” (نشكر الله الذي مكننا من أعناقهم).

 

6 – al-Istikhlaf   الإستخلاف

Al-istikhlaf is derived from the same root as the word khilafa (caliphate). This is when you, as a jihadi, get to kick it into the net: now that you’ve followed the rules, carried out Allah’s will, fought for the land, implemented control after being granted the land by Allah, it is now time for the final step—the establishment of a khilafa, i.e. a state that follows shari’at Allah, the laws of Allah.  Just remember that for your caliphate to be a legitimate one—not just a crazed delusion proclaimed by some fanatical wanabees—you must follow all the right steps, as outlined here, leading up to this one.

Al-Baghdadi spoke extensively on the concept of istikhlaaf in his speech, saying that after his group was able to exercise control it became their Islamic duty to declare a khilafa—the duty that Muslims had “lost for centuries.”  He stressed that “Muslims should always try to establish it [khilafa].”

Al-istikhlaf is based on several Qur’anic verses and hadiths:

قَالَ عَسَى رَبُّكُمْ أَنْ يُهْلِكَ عَدُوَّكُمْ وَيَسْتَخْلِفَكُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ

Translation: “He said ‘Perhaps your Lord will destroy your enemy and grant you succession in the land and see how you will do” (Qur’an 7:129).

وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنكُمْ وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ لَيَسْتَخْلِفَنَّهُم فِي الْأَرْضِ كَمَا اسْتَخْلَفَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِهِم

Translation: “Allah has promised those who have believed among you and done righteous deeds that He will surely grant them succession [to authority] upon the earth just as He granted it to those before them…” (Qur’an 24:55).

The Qur’an mentions in many verses that the believers will inherit the earth.  It also states that Allah owns the land and that he will give it to his favorite followers.

 

Conclusion – Ready to Establish Your Own Caliphate, Baghdadi Style

If you’ve taken notes on the necessary stages of the jihadi project, you’re better prepared to follow al-Baghdadi’s example and pursue the establishment of your own caliphate (provided you purify your heart and all that). If you’re lucky, the loyal men you’ve surrounded yourself with (who don’t dare express dissent since they know death will be the penalty) will ‘elect’ you as the caliph!

In his first-ever public appearance, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi wanted to demonstrate his control and prove that the time to remain hidden has passed.  As khalifa, he can now choose his whereabouts and act as a public figure.  Far from featuring Ramadan as the spiritual journey it is understood to be by most Muslims, al-Baghdadi turned it into a jihad-fest.  In the first sermon of Ramadan, he called Muslims to join the jihad and build khilafa.  He came dressed in black and walked with a limp, conveying that he had been wounded in the jihad.

Al-Baghdadi performed the duties of a khalifa: giving a sermon and leading the people in prayer.  He brandished his linguistic skills and some admirers praised him for having improvised his speech.  But don’t let this intimidate you regarding your own aspirations: if you really follow the speech of jihadis, you’ll find that they repeat a very finite number of limited concepts, encapsulated within the same few-dozen cookie-cutter sentences.

Comments (205)


ALAN said:

Syria Comment
STOP publish articles about sectarian engineering and follow up the implementation of its details! Is This site is dedicated for this purpose! look and do statistics. How many times you published about sectarian engineering and tracking its growth in your articles since the beginning of 2014? horror!! The number of your articles that deal with the details of religion and sects of Islam amounted to the limits of madness! Do you take money on it? You are playing an active role in a toxic information and mobilization bombardment!

July 6th, 2014, 2:03 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

This lesson in Jihadi terminology is a stuff for intelligence agencies, who have to confront a defeat this abomination.

The repetitive motto: war, fight, battle and fear. only sick people can be inspired by this shit. And indeed those who consume such stuff regularly are sick.

July 6th, 2014, 4:22 pm

 

ALAN said:

Former French president Nicholas Sarkozy’s dramatic criminal interrogation last week shows once again that the politics of the French Republic remain waist-deep in sewage. It was also an affront and humiliation of a former – and would be future – French president.

Sarkozy was picked up from his Paris home before eight AM and whisked off to a police and judicial center in the outskirts of the capitol. He was subjected to 15 hours of intensive questioning, then taken at two AM to be arraigned (‘mis en examen’) for possible corruption and perversion of justice……

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/july/06/payback-time-for-sarko-in-france%E2%80%99s-dirty-politics.aspx

France’s problem with political sleaze stems in good part because its overly restrictive campaign laws cause presidential candidates to solicit “black” funds, then conceal them….

The brusque way Sarko was handled was wrong. But the crimes of which he and his cronies are accused are extremely grave, defiling the honor of France and its republican governments. They must be investigated and, if appropriate, prosecuted. Not a day too soon as the Fifth Republic crumbles.

July 6th, 2014, 4:50 pm

 

mjabali said:

This article shows that al- Baghdadi and his group have a plan while the other guys did not. It was obvious from the fact that his group were faster than other groups to establish Sharia courts anywhere they could..or try to intimidate the others…
The intimidation of ISIS to other groups was the prelude to this…

July 6th, 2014, 4:56 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Jihad my ass.

“..My question is whether I am permitted to allow one of the mujahideen access my anus, if my intention are honorable, and the purpose is to train for Jihad by widening my anus”.

July 6th, 2014, 5:03 pm

 

ALAN said:

دعوة تدمير الكنائس في لبنان انطلقت من حسابات المخابرات الأجنبية

http://arabic.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_06/274320156/

July 6th, 2014, 5:43 pm

 

ALAN said:

Pepe Escobar
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-020714.html
….
So 13 years ago Washington crushed both al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Then the Taliban were reborn. Then came Shock and Awe. Then came “Mission Accomplished”. Then al-Qaeda was introduced in Iraq. Then al-Qaeda was dead because Osama bin Laden was dead. Then came ISIL. And now there’s IS. And we start all over again, not in the Hindu Kush, but in the Levant. With a new Osama.

What’s not to like? If anyone thinks this whole racket is part of a new live Monty Python sketch ahead of their reunion gig this month in London, that’s because it is.
*****
Credibility on the part of the US government, 2014: epic fail.

July 6th, 2014, 5:57 pm

 

ALAN said:

US government is supplying the radical Islamist groups in Iraq and Syria with software they use to plan terrorist attacks, Iranian Press TV channel reported on Saturday citing local sources. The channel further added that the US provides help to the militants via the Office for Syrian Opposition Support. Members of radical extremist groups like Takfir wal-Hijra are starting to actively utilize modern communication systems and social networks. And the US eagerly provides these militants with software that provides them with anonymous access to the World Wide Web resources.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_05/US-supply-militants-in-Iraq-with-software-Iranian-TV-4427/

July 6th, 2014, 6:10 pm

 

ALAN said:

The Superpower and the Caliphate

The jihadist die is cast, a point of no return for the U.S. strategy of projecting imperial power in the region through armed Islamic fundamentalist surrogates. The international jihadist network, which did not exist before the CIA, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan created it to undermine the leftist secular government of Afghanistan in mid-1979, has become a movement that can no longer be controlled. The physical contours of the ISIS caliphate, the movement’s dynamic new focal point, may prove indefensible, especially if the Americans decide they cannot avoid an all-out assault on their former asset. But, whatever the U.S. military response, the game plan that was hatched in 2011 for Libya, Syria, Iraq – for the whole region – is kaput, based as it is on the reliable deployment of jihadists as surrogates for NATO and Arab royals. Worse, the Arab oil potentates understand full well that their own regimes are now in grave danger from the indigenous monstrosity they have created.

July 6th, 2014, 6:13 pm

 

ALAN said:

The Iraqi government dismissed as fake a video allegedly showing the leader of the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) delivering a sermon, stressing that he was injured by an airstrike.

Iraqi Interior Ministry spokesman, Brigadier General Saad Maan, told Reuters that the footage allegedly showing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at a mosque in central Mosul, located some 400 kilometers northwest of the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, was “indisputably” not him.ISIL leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

“We have analyzed the footage…and found it is a farce,” Maan said, adding that Iraqi government forces had recently wounded Baghdadi in an airstrike and he had been transferred by the ISIL militants to Syria for medical treatment.

A 21-minute video posted on social media on Saturday showed a man clad in a long black robe and a black turban with a long graying beard addressing people at what looked like a mosque.

During the alleged sermon, the man calls on all Muslims to obey him and urges people to follow his call to create a “caliphate,” or what he considers an Islamic state, in Iraq and Syria. The man says Muslims are sinners if they do not seek this goal of establishing an “Islamic state.”

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=159916&cid=23&fromval=1&frid=23&seccatid=24&s1=1#.U7nIRAcC-xE.twitter

July 6th, 2014, 6:29 pm

 

Jamal said:

God knows what the international kitchen is cooking to stop the danger of terrorist.

July 6th, 2014, 10:22 pm

 

ALAN said:

USA media, is trying to tell you that the only way is to break up Syces-Picot, and smash the mideast to microscopic minorities

Media in the USA is, drip by drip, bit by bit, trying to brainwash you into believing that nation states cannot exist in mideast

Netanyahu’s Caliphate dream in Iraq is surrounded by Syria, Iran and Russia – obliteration is certain, time still debatable

July 7th, 2014, 6:49 am

 

ALAN said:

Sunni Imam of Aqsa Mosque to ISIS: Stop Deceiving Muslims (English Subtitles)
http://youtu.be/KtgGDq7tbwk?t=45s

July 7th, 2014, 7:11 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Here in SC we can see what Syria has become.

8 comments out of 13 comments belong to ALAN who is the prototype of establshment and power supporter.

2 belong to a jewish and 1 to an alawi. The last to someone who simply wonders what is coming next.

This is very poor indeed. The uniderectional international and internal view of Assad/US/Russia/Irak-Iran against any revolutionary anti/status quo movement has finally suceeded.

The new operation of creating ISIS to destroy the rebels and the kurds in Syria first and to offer Mosul and its oil to US-Russian companies and the north of Irak to Malki-Iran axis is brilliant.

US CIA and Iran inteligence services have done a brilliant joint operation against arabs and against orthodox islam.

July 7th, 2014, 10:16 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

SC was followed by hundreds or thousands but now it has just 10 or 15 followers. By now only 4 people voted against my comment, of course negative votes. I do not expect a single positive vote from this type of agora.

July 7th, 2014, 12:01 pm

 

ALAN said:

137. OBSERVER /The base from which bomb making is established./
Is not this did you mean?
138. AKBAR PALACE: /It doesn’t sound very good./
Gordon Duff
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/07/officials-site-thermo-nuke-in-911-demo/
What you read above, combined with recent revelations that support, not only this hypothesis but name names involved in the theft of 350 nuclear warheads from the Pantex facility in Amarillo, Texas, inexorably opens a door to what has been a very dark period in world history.

Privately they believe it will happen and these are the people who would know. Then, when I hear Dick Cheney describe his believe that nuclear terrorism is inevitable, I look at his role in this attack.

July 7th, 2014, 2:46 pm

 
 
 

ALAN said:

The global fascist project.
By Glen Ford
U.S. Funds “Terror Studies” to Dissect and Neutralize Social Movements
….
Total War Against the Planet
read:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39009.htm

July 7th, 2014, 5:04 pm

 

Jamal said:

So the West and its allies of Bedouin Arabs have created this beast called the ISIS (or ISIL “Levant” as French media like to call it) a.k.a (Islamic State or Khilafa state), well actually they have created many of those ugly creatures before such as Nusra front, Islamic army … and the list goes on but this exact beast was injected with a huge dose of steroids.

The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa)in addition to Syria, Iran and Algeria have been warning of this moment but the thirst to blood and irresistible touch of dollars have blinded many of so called “revolutionists” to be nothing but mules in this mad proxy war.

Now the fungus armed groups in Syria (mainly formed of thieves, looters,unemployed low educated countrymen, and fundamentalists) are shifting loyalty and playing followers to those who pay more. Yet soon enough we will witness them disintegrating and disappearing in the same speed of when they were put quickly together by secret service black rooms of Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. At that point of time there will be only two distinct fighting sides going head-to-head in this endless civil war, there will be the regime vs. ISIS, and at that point of time those who used Syrian blood and soul to oust Bashar will reinvigorate him back with unimaginable full scale of support.

I only feel sorry to those who naively were used as pawns on this dirty war, they have lost their lives and already been forgotten.

July 7th, 2014, 7:00 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

14. Sandro,

There is no such thing as “Orthodox Islam” or
“moderate” Islam. Also, the CIA and the Iranians did not create the Islamist wave that is sweeping the Middle-East and beyond. This wave is genuine Arab and Muslim. It’s about time that Arabs will stop blaming every one else but themselves.

July 7th, 2014, 9:58 pm

 

Badr said:

The bigger picture to always keep in mind:

The tragedy of the Arabs
A civilisation that used to lead the world is in ruins—and only the locals can rebuild it

The Economist

July 8th, 2014, 2:50 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

This is not a blame game.

When US army destroys a country like Irak that is the Dam Wall against chia iranian regional influence and puts no power instead, while 65 % of chia population is opening the door to Iran and closing to all sunna and christian, you cannot blame sunna and christian of this.

When chia milicias from Hezbollah, Malki and Iran invade Syria to kill syrian populations (85 % sunni and christians) you cannot say the blame is on the syrians.

When Arabia, Rusia, Iran, Qatar and US are founding terrorism, Al Qaeda, Massacres of civil populations through a miserable dictator or through foreign jihadists you cannot blame the local populations.

Please stop throwing your shitty racists thoughts against arab syrians and iraquis suffering total destruction and try to be more serious in your analysis,

IRAN and RUSSIA are trying to control the region and the monopolistic use of gas. If they need to change the demography of Syria by holocausting local populations like sionists did in Israel 70 years ago they will do it.

US and ARAB GULF try to stop the increasing power of IRAN and RUSSIA by any mean. And if it includes using the devil to its purpose and the death of 50 % of syrians and iraquis they will do it.

July 8th, 2014, 4:57 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

The creation of ISIS with foreign jihadists has been orchestrated by US and Iranian intelligence in order to destroy the arab nations of Syria and Irak and turn it to small sectarian and ethnic countries divided into alawites, druses, chia, sunna, kurds and so on. But it will fails since Iran will not respect agreements with US and will not stop its advance and sooner or later there will be a very violent attack against Iran pretensions. Big things will happen soon.

July 8th, 2014, 5:15 am

 

bahira omar said:

Please edit your article you said:
“over which the ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was to be the khalifa ”

it is wrong in Arabic the word should be khalif!!!

Please replace it!

July 8th, 2014, 5:33 am

 

Bahira Omar said:

Hello guys,

There is nothing new in what you said.
The Islamic khalifat is almost the same what Christians/Jews are going to establish in Jerusalem soon.
As I always said: Islam is just a counterfeit of what we already had in the Holy Bible 2000 years before the existence of Islam!

Christianity awaits the return of the Jewish king ‘malek” Jesus/Yeshua.

He will rule with the rod of iron and control His Kingdom on our planet.

What is the difference then between Islam i.e. this Islamic counterfeit and the TRUTH in Christianity?

Islam commands Muslims to exterminate Jews/Christians through the speaking trees and stones (we ALL know in REALITY that they do NOT speak at all!!!)

The “Christian” Jesus will rule over the nations NOT killing anyone!

So, how to establish any khalifa?

Believing that God allowed you to commit this crime against humanity called as “jihad” and beheading your Arab brothers and fathers who have the SAME Arab blood which you have?

Or believing the funny Islamic fairytales about speaking stones and trees?

Christians establish this khalifa on our planet already by LOVING people and God and DOING what God DOES, TRANSFORMING the world and extending this Kingdom of God in hearts of people who believe in God.

Trying to do the SAME in the Islamic counterfeit, Muslims establish their temporal khalifa HATING people, KILLING people and trying to exterminate people and commit genocide (Jews), extending their ILLEGAL kingdom though robbery and criminal activity braking BORDERS of the existing ISLAMIC states.

Thus if Islam KILLS Muslims and their Islamic sheikhs and TURNS AGAINST you-Muslims- then WHY do you follow a religion which is in FACT AGAINST you?!

Do you need a khalifa full of criminals in Islam or SAINTS in Christianity who LOVE people?
The religion Islam killing even MUSLIMS!?

Or the God of Peace? The King of Righteousness? His JUSTICE and His FREEDOM!

Yeah this is the difference between Islam and the TRUE God.
Our choices of our religions determine our destiny and destination.
Temporal kingdom will last so long until JUSTICE will crash its criminal activity!

Ponder, Muslims!

July 8th, 2014, 6:27 am

 

ALAN said:

What is happening in the Middle East such as sudden and unexpected events for Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (countries of hyperbole and confusion) indicates a lack of deep cognitive in geopolitics! Multipolar world is formed and in which there are strongly prohibited! No place for ignorant among the winners! Israel also make mistakes!

July 8th, 2014, 7:27 am

 
 

mjabali said:

Sandro Low said:

“The creation of ISIS with foreign jihadists has been orchestrated by US and Iranian intelligence in order to destroy the arab nations of Syria and Irak and turn it to small sectarian and ethnic countries divided into alawites, druses, chia, sunna, kurds and so on. But it will fails since Iran will not respect agreements with US and will not stop its advance and sooner or later there will be a very violent attack against Iran pretensions. Big things will happen soon.”

Yeah right…face the truth like a grown up and stop blaming others for your own mistakes….

July 8th, 2014, 9:10 am

 

mjabali said:

Sandro Low said:

“8 comments out of 13 comments belong to ALAN who is the prototype of establshment and power supporter.

2 belong to a jewish and 1 to an alawi. The last to someone who simply wonders what is coming next.”

So: According to S Low a “Jewish” and an Alawi should never express their opinions…..

مبين عليك طالع من دورة محو الامية

July 8th, 2014, 9:22 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

28. mjabali,

(cc Sandro)

I kind of agree with Sandro about his complaint that the Syrians here on SC deserted and disappeared.

This is exactly the mechanism that brings the radicals.

It is not the CIA, KGB, Iranian intelligence, Mossad and HoChi Min who promote the IS and the Jihadies. It is the silence of ordinary Arabs, who desert, leaving the arena to the extreme.

July 8th, 2014, 11:00 am

 

Kamran said:

Creative and informative.
kt

July 8th, 2014, 11:47 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Ahlan,

Please do yourself a favor and think about using another website than Veterans Today. Veterans Today is an vile anti-Semitic website where a select group of anti-semites dream about another holocaust while, at the same time, deny the first one. And then the rest is one conspiracy theory after the other.

As usual, the editors ban anyone who doesn’t espouse the view that joos are the cause for everything wrong in the world including your high cable bill.

July 8th, 2014, 12:25 pm

 

ALAN said:

Oligarchy in the Holy Land — Tiny Number of Families Dominates Israel’s Economy
http://www.alternet.org/world/israeli-inequality-and-oligarchy

Many Israeli citizens–like their American counterparts–are withering under the weight of the high cost of living. For other, more marginalized citizens, unemployment and poverty are the most pressing concerns. About 21 percent of Israelis live in poverty, the highest among developed countries that are part of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
And the Israeli people’s anger is increasingly being directed at the Israeli tycoons that hold an immense amount of wealth. Ordinary Israelis see the oligarchs as a testament to the vast gulf between the very rich and the rest of Israel. For many, inequality is the main economic issue in the country. But the Israeli economy didn’t always have such striking inequality. The country was a lot more equal when it was operating on a more social democratic model—at least for Jews—in the decades after 1948.

Today, about 20 Israeli families control a disproportionate amount of the Israeli economy. The families, whose holdings span the gamut of the Israeli economy, lay claim to about half the Israeli stock market and own one in four Israeli firms, according to the Financial Times. In 2010, a parliamentary report found that 10 business groups, most of them owned by wealthy families, control 30 percent of the market value of public companies. The families have holdings in real estate, financial services, supermarkets, the airline industry, telecommunications and more……
..
The Dankners–and especially the scion, Nochi Dankner–is one such powerful family.

The family made its money in the salt industry. Most of the family couldn’t keep up their financial success, though, bedeviled by internal squabbles and failed investments. The exception was Nochi Dankner, whose net worth is $1 billion, according to Forbes. For many years, he was the chairman of the IDB البنك الاسلامي للتنميةGroup, which has stakes in the insurance, biotech and finance industries.

July 8th, 2014, 1:13 pm

 

ALAN said:

30. AKBAR PALACE
I hope that I have been able to fulfill your request with article below
http://therebel.org/en/opinion/kaminski/779334-the-behavior-of-barbarians

July 8th, 2014, 1:35 pm

 

mjabali said:

Amir:

You are correct, but that also applies to many Syrians from all different walks of life and political agendas. What is going on in Syria left many speechless and have zero interest in talking.

As for the ISIS and similar groups, many did not see their danger from the start.

July 8th, 2014, 1:37 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

IDF eliminates Islamists south Ashkelon this afternoon

July 8th, 2014, 4:39 pm

 

ALAN said:

I said that a vacation on the beach of the Mediterranean Sea is better than being in the shelter!
Mahmoud Abbas Abu Mazen: Turn the table on Netanyahu’s head! enough to be silent!
I’m surprised! How long, these freaks will lead Israel

July 8th, 2014, 5:37 pm

 

ALAN said:

Israelis protesting against the war in Tel Aviv tonight. Signs: “Bibi is digging a grave for us all – Jews & Arabs”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsCjHtOCYAA-CKc.jpg

July 8th, 2014, 5:50 pm

 

Jamal said:

The hatred of Sunnis towards Shia (Alawis) has always blinded their options and surely directed them to opt for the worst possibilities. Firstly, establishing and supporting terrorist groups to fight and defeat Iran on Syrian land was the most stupid action. Secondly, Sunnis openly supported and harboured ISIS in Iraq putting their fate in ISIS hands and literally driving off the cliff. Thirdly, the Arab bedouin countries are about to go into alliance with Israel to fight Iran, such an action will be the last nail in the coffin of Arabisim and Palestinian struggle.

I only feel sorry to those who naively were used as pawns on this dirty war, they have lost their lives and already been forgotten.

July 8th, 2014, 6:01 pm

 

Passerby said:

Strange how some people can go through life with such a fantasyland notion of how the world works. Grand conspiracies that are the victims of ISIS etc. that create them and then inflict them on themselves and whatever twisted “logic”.

I mean, in their hearts, they have to know it’s at least part nonsense. It has to be a game they play with themselves because it feels good to say it or whatever.

And repetitive. and you know with that obvious shrill bias, (and goodness knows what else), no one ever clicks one of the links.

——

May be ISIS is happy with what they have for the moment, and like Saddam, making it as difficult as possible for anyone to remove them. Not killing the Hindus, treating them very well as they left, the Samarra shrine is still there, etc.

After all, they now have the economic base to do anything they want, including some really swell WMD, assuming such things aren’t a George Bush myth and actually have existed on earth. And of course, the radical assumption that ISIS would be unethical enough to do it.

July 8th, 2014, 6:30 pm

 

Passerby said:

Israel Warns Gaza Targets By Phone And Leaflet
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-and-leaflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

Strange world. Israel apologizes, captures, and hammers those that killed the kid, even after Hamas congratulates the ones that started it by killing the three kids.

And as Hamas tries as hard as possible to kill Israelis, the Israeli’s call and warn them to clear out so they can blow up an empty building and not hurt anyone.

Gee, I wonder how long rockets like that from Communist Cuba landing in Miami would be tolerated? Or any other country on the planet. Killed too many Cubans/Taiwanese/Georgians/Etc. to stop it? Should have just sat there and tolerated it?

Oh yeah, these guys run the world, got things all set up in their favor alright.

July 8th, 2014, 6:41 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Passerby,

I see you’ve seen the light. That’s step one.

July 8th, 2014, 8:39 pm

 

Passerby said:

Iraq says ‘terrorists’ seize ex-chemical weapons site

UN believes sarin munitions are in poor shape but warns they remain ‘highly toxic’
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iraq-says-terrorists-seize-ex-chemical-weapons-site-1.2700541

Well, that resolves my question above whether WMD are a myth created by GW, seems that at one time on earth, at least, they did exist. And it sure demonstrates ISIS is interested in them. Can’t count on them for responsible behavior, that’s sure bad news.

The part I like is claims that it would be nearly suicidal to actually use these, so nothing to worry about… Plus they are harmless after all these years anyway. Priceless.

Don’t have to fight street by street in Baghdad, just make it a liability, not an asset to their enemies. How hard would it be to panic everyone into leaving? All 6,000,000. This or something else, that’s what Saddam would do. After all, no penalty for Assad, (and/or whoever else did it in Syria, like there was no penalty for Saddam using it against Iran and his own people wholesale, other than his eventual demise.)

July 8th, 2014, 9:53 pm

 

Passerby said:

Hello Akbar,

Well, you put one foot in front of the other. The Absolute Truth/Light is that there is no Absolute Truth/Light, but we can approach it without limit.

It’s all the rot and collapse of the Ottoman Empire, all these problems. Froze everything in place, with no self rule and then, bam, everyone was set loose and all kinds of characters took over. In dark times Islam was the tolerant enlightened one, the standard others were judged by, they are certainly capable of it.

July 8th, 2014, 10:27 pm

 

Passerby said:

In Syria, ISIS’ latest trick is to empty the cities and then give selective permission for them to re-enter. Works good. Slick trick, much more efficient than sorting them out in place.

Might have occurred to them that it would be a good plan for Baghdad.

July 8th, 2014, 11:03 pm

 

ALAN said:

/Gee, I wonder how long rockets like that from Communist Cuba landing in Miami would be tolerated? Or any other country on the planet. Killed too many Cubans/Taiwanese/Georgians/Etc. to stop it? Should have just sat there and tolerated it?/
unsuccessful example
Israel occupies the land of Palestine – there is occupation – stop mixing – the occupation is the cause!

July 9th, 2014, 1:31 am

 

habib said:

10. ALAN

I wouldn’t trust the incompetent Iraqis with any form of “analysis”.

July 9th, 2014, 2:37 am

 

habib said:

21. Amir in Tel Aviv

But the west has been helping Islamists for decades, so they could weaken the secular, Leftist powers once prevalent in the Mideast.

This counts for Hamas VS PLO as well, Israel supported Hamas in their early days.

The west is more scare dof strong, secular Arab states than fragmented, backwards caliphates.

July 9th, 2014, 2:42 am

 

ALAN said:

/the incompetent Iraqis/
It exploits for dividing oil-rich Iraq into three mini-states! What do you think?
http://www.moo-iraq.com/ar/index.php?name=Pages&op=page&pid=77
http://www.iraqanba.com/?p=6460
***
five systemic sources of instability:
1. Failed Governments/States, where failed means an inability to provide the citizenry with basic levels of security, civil liberties and basic necessities of life.
Failed states are characterized by:
Weak Institutions & Corruption
Failed Governance/Political Gridlock
Failure of Central Planning Model
Failure of Neo-Liberal Model of Capitalism
2. Fragmentation of nation-states assembled in the 20th century by the Great Powers.
3. Divided geopolitical loyalties of traditional states located on geopolitical faultlines.
4. Resource wars:
Transport of energy
Fewer resources (food, water, energy)
Shortages/rising prices of resources
5. Insolvency of nations/governments due to unpayable debts.

July 9th, 2014, 2:51 am

 

ALAN said:

Powerful raw video shows Israeli airstrikes on Gaza
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/07/powerful-raw-video-shows-israeli-airstrikes-gaza/

Palestinians will brush for Israelis the whole land of Palestine
With flowers according to Newton’s third law!
http://youtu.be/r9yuR7ezqf4?t=1s

July 9th, 2014, 4:57 am

 

ALAN said:

Freedom for Palestine – OneWorld

Palestine is in crisis. Today Palestinians face daily human rights abuse and live in crushing poverty in refugee camps and under Israeli Occupation.

In response to this injustice, a group of international musicians are releasing the song Freedom for Palestine by OneWorld.

Maxi Jazz (Faithless), Dave Randall (Slovo/Faithless), LSK, the Durban Gospel Choir, Jamie Catto (1 Giant Leap) and musicians from around the world.

http://youtu.be/V28HnPTYz-I?t=1s

July 9th, 2014, 5:14 am

 

annie said:

Another “self hating Jew” Max Blumenthal unmasks the devious Netanyahu

“Cursed be he who says, ‘Avenge!‘ “
—Chaim Bialik, from “On The Slaughter”

From the moment three Israeli teens were reported missing last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the country’s military-intelligence apparatus suppressed the flow of information to the general public. Through a toxic blend of propaganda, subterfuge and incitement, they inflamed a precarious situation, manipulating Israelis into supporting their agenda until they made an utterly avoidable nightmare inevitable.

Israeli police, intelligence officials and Netanyahu knew within hours of the kidnapping and murder of the three teens that they had been killed. And they knew who the prime suspects were less than a day after the kidnapping was reported.

Rather than reveal these details to the public, Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence agency imposed a gag order on the national media, barring news outlets from reporting that the teens had almost certainly been killed, and forbidding them from revealing the identities of their suspected killers. The Shin Bet even lied to the parents of the kidnapped teens, deceiving them into believing their sons were alive.

Instead of mounting a limited action to capture the suspected perpetrators and retrieve the teens’ bodies, Netanyahu staged an aggressive international public relations campaign, demanding sympathy and outrage from world leaders, who were also given the impression that the missing teens were still alive.

Meanwhile, Israel’s armed forces rampaged throughout the occupied West Bank and bombarded the Gaza Strip in a campaign of collective punishment deceptively marketed to Israelis and the world as a rescue mission.

Critical details that were known all along by Netanyahu and the military-intelligence apparatus were relayed to the Israeli public only after the abduction of more than 560 Palestinians, including at least 200 still held without charges; after the raiding of Palestinian universities and ransacking of countless homes; after six Palestinian civilians were killed by Israeli forces; after American-trained Palestinian Authority police assisted Israeli soldiers attacking Palestinian youths in the center of Ramallah; after the alleged theft by Israeli troops of $3 million in US dollars; and after Israel’s international public relations extravaganza had run its course.

The assault on the West Bank arrived on the heels of the collapse of the US-led framework negotiations, for which the US blamed Netanyahu, and immediately after Hamas’ratification of a unity deal with the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority. Netanyahu was still smarting from the US recognition of the unity government when news of the kidnapping reached him. Never one to miss an opportunity to undermine the Palestinians, he and his inner circle resolved to milk the kidnapping for maximum propaganda value.

Weeks after the incident, it is now clear that the Israeli government, intelligence services and army engaged in a cover-up to provide themselves with the political space they required for a military campaign that had little to do with rescuing any kidnapped teens.

The disinformation campaign they waged sent a heavily indoctrinated, comprehensively militarized population into a tribalistic frenzy, provoking a wave of high-level incitement, the shocking revenge killing of an innocent Palestinian teen and rioting across East Jerusalem.

Where the chaos will end and how far it will spread is unknown. But its origins are increasingly clear.

http://electronicintifada.net/content/netanyahu-government-knew-teens-were-dead-it-whipped-racist-frenzy/13533

July 9th, 2014, 5:31 am

 

Matthew Barber said:

#25 Bahira Omar

There is nothing wrong with the transliteration “khalifa,” since the Arabic word is خليفة. I’m surprised that you would tell us to change it if you don’t know the word in Arabic.

Alan, the frequency of your messages (in many of which you seem to be having a conversation with only yourself) is approaching what we would consider spam. As soon as this thread went up, you posted around 10 messages (I think I deleted some that were very spam-ish) that weren’t part of any dialogue with anyone here. This is getting annoying; please be advised. Oh, and by the way, people will listen to you more if you use more periods (.) and less exclamation marks (!). The overuse of exclamation marks convey the impression that you’re just always shouting, and when people shout all the time, others stop listening.

July 9th, 2014, 9:23 am

 

ALAN said:

I’m surprised! How long, these freaks will lead Israel
until when the Israelis will be silent and be in this shit?
the tops of Israel should send to the sewers and then to the treatment plant for processing.

молдаване Япона мама

July 9th, 2014, 9:31 am

 
 

Akbar Palace said:

Ahlan, ma’hanyanim?

How long, these freaks will lead Israel until when the Israelis will be silent and be in this shit?

Ahlan,

Probably until the next election. After Ben Gurion, Netanyahu is currently the longest serving PM.

And just think if he was an Arab despot. He would be pwesident-for-life…

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/09/netanyahu-israel-leadership-crisis.html#

July 9th, 2014, 10:11 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Akbar,

You hit the nail on the head. Look at this page, scroll down and google translate (the second table which states the number of years each PM in office):

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%A9_%D7%9E%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%AA_%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C#.D7.96.D7.9E.D7.A0.D7.99_.D7.9B.D7.94.D7.95.D7.A0.D7.94_.D7.91.D7.A9.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.9D

Ben Gurion, two terms, total 13 years, 127 days
Bibi, two terms (so far), 8 years, 117 days.

Personally I believe that Bibi is trying to break BG’s record. So we have at least more 5 Bibi years ahead.

July 9th, 2014, 10:52 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Amir,

I don’t know what is more important today. We should get Matthew and the rest of the participants here to put the following tasks in order of importance with the most important task first:

1.) Defeating the Zionist Project (ZP)
2.) BDS and boycotting the ZP
3.) Bring freedom to the Arab world
4.) Keep Islamofacists and arab despots from killing hundreds of thousands of muslims.
5.) Make sure the ZP doesn’t get a UNSC seat.
6.) Get an inaccurate Gazan missile to fly 100 km.

July 9th, 2014, 11:10 am

 
 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

ALAN is the protoype of the arab dictatorship regimes stupidity. Defending palestinians rights and crushing its own populations rights and lifes.

Really repulsive.

July 9th, 2014, 1:22 pm

 

Badr said:

Face-to-Face National Opinion Poll in Syria
Opinion Research Business (ORB) – WIN/Gallup International

July 9th, 2014, 3:21 pm

 

ALAN said:

61. SANDRO LOEWE
you are wrong. Learn and study better.
Repulsive must be of Hamad,Bandar or Erdogan! who helped you to destroy own country. you are the prototype of them and some toxic others.

July 9th, 2014, 3:51 pm

 

ALAN said:

62. BADR
If these institutions operate strictly and concludes numbers, why Obama’s policy was fail everywhere?
Can Gallup International explore from the American people about opinion on performance of the president and his government ?
I do not respect these plays.

July 9th, 2014, 4:07 pm

 

ALAN said:

/You hit the nail on the head/
Moldavian raven will depart, leaving behind the havoc. The mad dog is clearly on the loose.
***
To the wounded Syria
Israel announced that the M-303 rockets launched by Palestinian resistance are Syrian-made. Thank you wounded Syria. You are the only Arab country which supports Palestinians with Arms.

July 9th, 2014, 4:25 pm

 

ALAN said:

Jewish hate of Arabs proves: Israel must undergo cultural revolution
Without a revolution based on humanist values, the Jewish tribe will not be worthy of its own state.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.603451#

July 10th, 2014, 2:32 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

54. Matthew Barber

All said in your message. Alan spamming is like the says of the Baath party sticked in official building corridors for state workers to remember and like Hafez statues and Bashar pictures all around the country. You are obliged to see them even if you hate them.

July 10th, 2014, 3:57 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Once and again the news are confirmed.

Daash is formed by Assad Regime Special Forces.

Every syrian I meet in neighbouring countries (Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon), every syrian I talk to inside Syria, every syrian explains his experiences in north Syria repeats once and again the same story:

DAASH officials are Assad officials paid by the regime and working against rebels and villages that suppoort the revolution.

July 10th, 2014, 4:10 am

 

Badr said:

An Interview With Robert Ford

By Isaac Chotiner
The New Republic

I have never heard anyone in the White House or the State Department say “it would be better if he stays” or “we want him to stay.”

July 10th, 2014, 4:21 am

 

ALAN said:

67. SANDRO LOEWE
I am not from any party. I am an ordinary citizen. You suffer from hatred. You must go to the doctor.

July 10th, 2014, 4:50 am

 

ALAN said:

the amplitude of torsion fields is grows:

http://youtu.be/ui9Un24Nhps?t=1s

Lukashevich: The international community should make consolidated efforts to stop the jihadist contagion -Syria
/it is necessary to kick out the CIA and Blackwater./

July 10th, 2014, 9:18 am

 

ALAN said:

Juergen, have you the details? 🙂
Germany Tells Top U.S. Embassy Intelligence Official to Leave Country
Moves Comes Amid Ongoing Espionage Investigations by German Federal Prosecutor
BERLIN—Germany on Thursday told a top U.S. intelligence official in the U.S. Embassy in Berlin to leave the country, an unusual and forceful response to a growing furor over American espionage activities.

July 10th, 2014, 11:13 am

 

ALAN said:

Today, extremist ideologues like Netanyahu and others of his ilk are all essential hate-mongers, who urge upon all Jewish people a similar attitude of hatred towards non-Jewish people. This not only affects their relationship with Palestinian nationals but is increasingly to be observed in their relationships with Christians and Muslims.
What Netanyahu and others fail to grasp is that the more they stoke up hatred among their own people the more they will end up stoking up hatred among other peoples.
Ultimately, Zionist Jewish racist supremacism will end up bringing about the end of any so-called “Jewish” state of Israel.

July 10th, 2014, 12:51 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Ahlan,

Thank you for that important message. The racist and supremacist zionists have much to learn from the region and the surrounding arab states in terms of tolerance and civility. The rockets from Gaza are merely a cry for help, as the residents there need to escape their open air prison. The missiles are really not intended to hurt anyone.

I must say, the Syria Comment website is a wealth of knowledge and enlightenment. Thank you Ahlan.

July 10th, 2014, 1:13 pm

 

ALAN said:

Degree of polarization in Israel society has long been high and continues to grow. Society will break. and we will see the confrontation between Israelis. Netanyahu pushes Israel to the abyss!

July 10th, 2014, 6:11 pm

 

ALAN said:

74. AKBAR PALACE
Thank you for your good appreciation and expression.
Actually syrians have to learn a lot of tolerance and civility of civilized neighbors
Such as preliminary response, these are some simple flowers from Gaza of giving back on the repeated gifts presented by yours to Syria! You know, it’s a requirement of civility and good treatment.
Thanks for Syria Comment website as a wealth of knowledge and enlightenment.

Hope this is not getting annoying.

July 11th, 2014, 7:02 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Asma’s Fight Against Zionist Hegemony NewZ

Hope this is not getting annoying.

Ahlan,

Not at all. We’ve grown accustomed to your informative posts and your cheer-leading of the Middle East’s greatest fweedom lovers like Iran, Hezbollah, Assad and Maliki (I may have missed a few).

We applaud your steadfast support of Wesistance and Fweedom and we wish you the best of luck while the ME crumbles into dust.

Shukran Haver!

July 11th, 2014, 8:33 am

 

ALAN said:

The ME crumbling into dust NewZ
Akbar
For your growth: a recipe from your kitchen
http://laitman.com/2009/09/look-inside-yourself-there-you-will-find-everything/

July 11th, 2014, 10:14 am

 
 
 

Observer said:

About the six words you need to be accepted in ISIS speak. In high school during a religion class, the teacher asked one of the students: what are the goals and objectives of Islam? The half dozing student did not understand the question and whispered to his friend sitting next to him: what is the teacher asking? The friend also half asleep said: he is asking about the Goals of the People I think. And the response was: the goal is to have cooperative and supportive relationships with the socialist causes and peoples around the world against imperialist neocolonial hegemony. Needless to say the teacher was not amused and the class burst out laughing. But that was the Baath speak at that time.

It is the same autocracy with different flavor.

I am very pleased with the dismantling of Sykes Picot and I am very happy to have the place crumble.

If Israel thinks it can contain Hamas and HA wait till the borders are filled with ISIS and other jihadists who are not deterred by anything.

Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.

It is sectarin to the hilt these days.

Cheers

July 11th, 2014, 12:10 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.

Observer,

I accept your challenge. But I will not have the patience to reply to the following:

Proportionality: X dead palis/arabs/jihadis/baathists requires X dead juden. I find that silly unless other countries play by the same rules, which they don’t, and neither does the Geneva Convention.

Now the Arab/Israel conflict always had the potential to be solved, but the arab leaders involved saw less benefit WITH a solution than with the status quo, thus back to the “dogs of war”, unfortunately and the death of the Awab Spwing.

Lost opportunity is a Middle East staple served cold with crushed rock and warm blood.

July 11th, 2014, 1:48 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Observer #81,

“…If Israel thinks it can contain Hamas and HA wait till the borders are filled with ISIS and other jihadists who are not deterred by anything”.

1) Any one can be deterred. The IS and other Islamists who run wild across areas in the ME are just gangs of few thousands men. Where are their women, homes, families, children, property? Those gangs of men are not established; they run like mad dogs from fight to fight. Once they’re established and settled (I hope we get rid of them before that), they could be deterred.

2) If not “containing Hamas and HA”, what are Israel’s options? Those entities are well established within their communities. So Israel can wipe out the entire community, so Hamas and HA gone. But this will be genocide, which we will not commit. Israel can give in to Hamas and HA, but then, there’s no Israel.
If not (a) containing (b) wiping out, and (c) surrender, what other options did you think of?

July 11th, 2014, 6:25 pm

 

Observer said:

Live like any other modern state be it Belgium or France or even one of the states in the US: single unitarian state secular non denominational and not based on ethnic religious sectarian preferences where a constitution establishes a central state limited under the rule of law with separation of executive powers and legislative and judicial powers and where leadership can be chosen at the ballot box.

All the inhabitants of Palestine, Israel, and Jordan can join such a unitary state as equal citizens. After all Jews and Arabs and Muslims and Christians and atheists and Amish live in the county where I live here in the states without reference to their “particularism” and the head of one division is a Sikh and the head of another Division in my place of work is Arab and the head of my department is a woman.

Why can’t Israel be like Florida or Belgium where all religious groups have been accepted and where Arab names appeared on almost every electoral list for the elections of the Brussels legislative body?

Create a single state and join with Jordan made up of a large number of displaced Palestinians and invite all the jews of the world and all the displaced Palestinians to come and live in a single unitarian state where jewishness or arabness or whatever is not a condition for citizenship but a source of diversity and strength.

Israel is an apartheid illegal state based on Balfour promising what he does not have and unable to fulfill the promise of protection of the natives. It is illegal to have the UN divide any country, it is illegal to take land by force, it is illegal to give 51% of the land to 20 % of the population, it is illegal to conduct ethnic cleansing, it is illegal to leave 1 million cluster bombs on the farm lands of the South of Lebanon and the list goes on and on.

Israel declared it treasonous to talk to the PLO and helped the creation of Hamas to weaken it. Now they are talking daily to the PLO and wanting to destroy Hamas.

For more than 4000 years the Jewish people have always dreamt of the Holy Land and the return to it despite numerous exiles and departures and despite centuries of persecution the attachment never disappeared. Surely you can understand that the same has taken root among the Palestinians. Surely you understand that in the end the military fortress solution is not working. No amount of Iron dome missiles and shelters and tanks and drones and aircraft and even boots on the ground is going to make these people disappear.

So accept the offer of the Saudi King and make peace and create a single unitarian state. You are off on the Sabath, Christians off on Sunday, Muslims off on Friday and believe you me the business will continue to work 7 days a week as someone will be working on these three days.

Unless you sterilize the arab citizens of Israel there is no way that the state will remain “jewish”

The writing is on the wall. The dictators that protected the status quo are finished, The current counter revolution in Egypt is just a futile exercise in slowing the inevitable. The end of Iraq is happening, the ideology of Bin Laden has taken root. If the hopes are not fulfilled the current turmoil will look like a picnic in comparison to what is coming.

I predicted that more than 10 years ago. I predicted an explosion as my visits to Syria saw a destruction of the state to serve the mafia, I predicted more radicalization as the ideology and slogans of Arab dictators became empty rhetoric.
I predicted the demise of the economies as the basis were being destroyed and I predicted the radicalization of even the Jihadists.

Look at today; pictures of bombing and destruction in Gaza is fueling the birth of one million future jihadists and if Israel thinks it is not a fuel for this Jihadist mass producing machine then it is living in Lala land. It is acting exactly like the Assads and the Mubaraks and the Saddams and Ghaddafis thinking that perfecting tyranny while absolving itself of guilt in the name of the holocaust is going to let it live like that forever.

Another plunge into the follies of history.

July 12th, 2014, 9:49 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

I would happily adopt you fantastic vision, in which Muslims Christians (those who are not dead or expelled by now) and Jews, all live happily ever after, and have 3 days off a week.

But unfortunately, The HolyLand isn’t Florida, and the political culture in the ME isn’t the American Jeffersonian democracy. I wish it was but it isn’t.

If the ME turns Salafi, as you predict, the Arabs will be the first to suffer. The Christians will follow with huge suffering. The Jews will be the last to suffer, because we have Israel.

Can Israel stay safe forever? Now it is, in the future we will find the ways to survive in this unfriendly environment. Jews are creative.

Personally, I will be happy to live in a United States of the ME. But I’m quite pessimistic about the feasibility of such an idea.

July 12th, 2014, 11:59 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Joke of the Day: Another Arab asks why Israel isn’t “democratic” NewZ

Observer asks:

Why can’t Israel be like Florida or Belgium where all religious groups have been accepted and where Arab names appeared on almost every electoral list for the elections of the Brussels legislative body?

Observer, what makes you think Israel ISN’T like Florida or Belgium? All religious group have been accepted and all religious groups are free to pray as they like just like in Florida and Belgium. Actually there is a higher percentage of arabs in Israel than in Florida or Belgium, so I guess arabs like it better in Israel than in Florida and Belgium.

Lastly, before you ax why Israel isn’t more like some other country, please get us an answer why the 20 some other arab countries isn’t more like, ya’ani, “Florida or Belgium”.

July 12th, 2014, 5:29 pm

 

ALAN said:

HABIB
the frequency of zionists participations, as soon as this thread went up, was more than 20! time to shear them

July 12th, 2014, 7:04 pm

 

Juergen said:

Amir

Events on the ground show a smilar process of the jihadis like it happend in Bosnia. They start to get married, even dare to marry shiite women of men they just killed.

Alan

We had the case of two spys working for the CIA, one within our secret service and one working for the ministry of defense. Both arent big intellectuals, kind of strange the CIA depends on guys like them. But due to the Snowden handling, our government decided to bring this story up front and make some headlines. The expel of the official CIA stationmanager is nothing serious, just an other episode of the diplomatic procedure handbook. The USA does not care a damn who they spy, they think their national security is worth setting up friends and allies. Also, our government knows too well that a lot of the security we have comes from US secret organizations, so business as usual I would say…

July 13th, 2014, 12:39 am

 

Juergen said:

Here is the IDF’s famous knock on the roof technique

July 13th, 2014, 12:39 am

 

ALAN said:

Is there an initial evaluation of an Israeli military operation? Are a Latvian in trouble? Are Israeli public opinion will turn against him?Is he will swallow his knife?
Better late than never.
http://arabic.ruvr.ru/2014_07_12/274548146/

July 13th, 2014, 7:22 am

 
 
 

amspirnational said:

It is illegal for a Christian to attempt to convert a Jew in Israel.
If an American o other diaspora Jew has converted to Christianity, he or she is considered an “ex-Jew” by the Israeli law, and is ineligible under the law of return.
Why he or she would wish to “return” to a stolen land is another question.

July 13th, 2014, 2:24 pm

 
 
 

Ghufran said:

I will post a series of comments based on personal encounters with Syrians inside Syria.
While most of you are busy trading insults, Syrisns in the motherland are desperate for help and Israel is bombing Gaza.
يا أمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم

July 14th, 2014, 11:12 pm

 

ALAN said:

/and Israel is bombing Gaza./
new twist:
Netanyahu is pushing the Israelis to the death for the Gazian gas. There is no difference. Gas wars affect everyone

Eloquent words:
Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza
http://youtu.be/g3-rZXWVN6E?t=1s

July 15th, 2014, 12:55 pm

 

Observer said:

It is not so fantastic to have a unitary state that is secular and non denominational and where the citizenship rises above the sectarian thinking.

There are several countries that have been able to do this: one is the US the other is Britain lately as it has allowed for integration better than other countries and the very idea of man being able to determine his fate and his understanding of his society and the implementation of the rule of law and limitations on governance came about as part and parcel of the enlightenement that is still spreading today across the globe.

Israel creation is also another fantastic accomplishment for the Zionist ideology and would not have happened without the holocaust as many European Jews did not want to emigrate to Israel. Were it not for the holocaust there would never have been enough of a mass movement, a sympathy and a support, and a coalition of superpowers to make it happen at that time with arms and political control of the nascent UN. What is so fantastic about living like any other US citizen here?

How about the thousands and millions of both Arabs and Israelis that live in the US and follow the rules and consider their citizenship and their position and their promotion and their opportunities and their votes and their representation and their taxes to be non denominational?

What is so fantastic about that?

What we see today is another fundamentalist fanatic racist exclusivist society that is lurching ever more to the right and that is dehumanizing the Palestinians in a continous futile effort to crush them. An exercise that is bound to fail and like the regime in Syria no amount of barrel bombs or precision bombs is going to sway the people. The wall of fear is down, the idea that there is no retribution in kind for acts of terror be it an arrest in the Syrian dungeons or the open air prison of Gaza without paying a price is long gone.

In the meantime, Israel as we know it is disappearing as the womb of the Palestinian woman and the Orthodox jewish woman is bound to destroy the very nature of the current society. So move as quickly as possible to a single unitary state and propose an end to this abomination called the exclusive right of the Jewish people to return to the promised land: the source of eternal racism and hatred and strife.

In the meantime the article today in the WSJ about the exhaustion of HA in Syria is telling. They are having a hard time continuint to recruit and send fighters to prop up the regime in Syria. The UN security council decision is clearly one that is going to be used to limit the regime’s claim to sovereignty.

I do not know what to say Dr. Landis may need to delve into another country to specialize in as Syria is finished for about three generations at least.

Deir Ezzor is gone, Tikrit is in a battle, the football season is about to start here, NBA news of LeBron going back to Cleveland fill the air.

Cheers

July 15th, 2014, 1:19 pm

 
 

ghufran said:

SOHR poll:

هل يصب الإعلان عن قيام الدولة الإسلامية بقيادة البغدادي، في مصلحة ثورة الشعب السوري أم نظام بشار الأسد؟
في مصلحة الثورة السورية – 43.3%
في مصلحة نظام بشار الأسد – 56.7%

Assad gave a speech as he crowned himself for another 7 years of
” glory”, rebels responded by shelling residential areas in Damascus including rich neighborhoods.
I see no end in sight for this war but I believe rebels presence will be limited to certain areas while large cities (except parts of Aleppo) will remain under regime control. Aleppo itself may become rebels-free before the end of this year.
Deir Azzour and Raqqa and most of Syrian aljazeera have to live under ISIS rule until there is a real agreement (to fix this odd situation) between major players, the army alone is not able to spread all over Syria, Assad needs it in large cities and coastal areas.

July 16th, 2014, 12:39 pm

 
 

Akbar Palace said:

What we see today is another fundamentalist fanatic racist exclusivist society that is lurching ever more to the right and that is dehumanizing the Palestinians in a continous futile effort to crush them.

Observer,

Your flowery language notwithstanding, Israel isn’t racist, isn’t apartheid, isn’t exclusivist and isn’t dehumanizing. At war with most of her neighbors since her creation in 1948, Israel is the LEAST of all these negative attributes in the whole Middle East.

Arabs in Israel are free to go anywhere and work anywhere in the state. They can ride any bus, enter any public building or store, and can live almost anywhere. Arabs can vote equally with jews and arabs sit in the knesset/parliament. Arab-Israelis prefer to live under Israeli sovereignty than Palestinian sovereignty when push comes to shove.

The REAL issue isn’t Israel or even settlements or the recognized border. The REAL issue is acceptance of a state for the “Jewish People”. Once you guys can accept that, then you can spend your money on your own people, feeding them, housing them, and building an economy rather than wasting money on WMD, missiles and supporting despotic leaders. Egypt and Jordan did it, the remaining holdouts would be wise to follow suit.

July 16th, 2014, 12:50 pm

 
 

Observer said:

It is very simple if every Jew in the world has a right to return as an Israeli then every Palestinian in the world has a right to go back to Palestine. Otherwise Israel is and will remain an apartheid state that is now trying to get out of the reality of apartheid by insisting that it is a Jewish state and has to be recognized as a Jewish state.
What do you do with the Muslim and Christian citizens of this Jewish state? If they ever accept this bizarre notion then it automatically excludes them from being citizens on equal footing with a Jewish citizen. Israel has been asking since its inception to have the robbed people legitimate the robbery and has been asking ever more demands to have accept being excluded from the very basic right of returning to their homes and of having a say in determining their future and their identity.

Not only it stole the land but it stole the culture and it stole the very idea of a Palestinian national identity.

What difference is there between an Israel that insists on it being a Jewish state and the Islamic Republic of Iran that declares that sovereignty belongs to God and that you have to be Shia to be president and also the difference with IS (ISIS) that declares an Islamic State and a Khalifa insisting that citizenship is Islamic? Christian and Jews have to pay a tax and are not to show the cross of the star of David and to remain inconspicuous. Next you will have them carry Yellow stars and Yellow crosses something that Israel is doing to the Palestinians daily overtly and covertly as the car plates are different.
Also do not come with how much Israel is better than the Arab states. They are not a point of comparison first, second going down the lowest denominator is a cop out, third people want basic and universal rights and giving part of them is not enough.

I do not understand: 4000 years of persecution and exclusion of the Jewish people has not resulted in an abandonment of the way of life and the ideals of the Jewish people why can’t you understand that likewise you will never ever be able to erase the Palestinian identity and the attachment of the people to the land and to their rights!!!!

Today carrying the war to the outside of Israel is finished. This is weak Hamas fighting back. Imagine what will happen to Israel if it were HA firing 100’s of thousands of rockets at Israel. Now, Hamas will ally itself with whomever will support it and no amount of siege or control is going to stop it from building its deterrent capability.

Israel is the one asking for a cease fire. It is the one afraid of a few casualties. It is the one that calculates economic fall out. It is the one that has lost the actual war and the PR war as well.

Continue electing right wing fanatics and you will get nothing but strife and misery.

The day will come when Israel will not be able to run away from major compromise and acceptance of a single state solution and it will not be while it has a strategic advantage. It will be when there is parity or worse for it, a disadvantage and then we will see if the Masada complex will resurface.

Every Arab and every Muslim knows now that Israel is truly averse to sacrifice and every one knows that not defeating Hamas or HA is a defeat for Israel.
I rejoice at the defeat of oppressors and dictators and apartheid and open air prisons and humiliation and degradation be in in Gaza or in Homs.

The end of the coalition of dictators and their crony relationships is at hand.

Will see if the invasion is going to work.

July 16th, 2014, 4:46 pm

 

Jamal said:

I see the Zionist Israeli hasbara slaves are quite busy on this website.

July 16th, 2014, 5:20 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Observer,

Read this recent survey, especially the answers to the first question, and you understand why the single-state idea isn’t possible at this point in time. Not because of the Jews:

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/uploads/Documents/other/PalestinianPollingReport_June2014.pdf

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/new-palestinian-poll-shows-hardline-views-but-some-pragmatism-too

Israelis not ready to sacrifice? Try us in a real war. Not a war of nuisance with annoying Jihadies.

When your GDP per capita reaches $38,000 , you want to protect this achievement, and not let it be destroyed by a bunch of retarded jihadi naggers.

Peace is possible, but only and if the national rights of ALL will be respected. So far it’s the Arabs who refuse to accept that the Jews deserve, and have the right to manage their political affairs, independently.

July 16th, 2014, 6:14 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

It’s really disappointing to read such rubbish from you Observer.

What bothers me is your underestimation of the resolve of the Jews to have our land. This is a Jewish land. Always was, always will be. This land is a Jewish “waqf”, a Jewish birthright.

As long as there is one Jew left in this world, he will consider this land as his. Ask Akbar, who is a Jew, but not Israeli.

Even in the worst scenario, which is, if Israel is destroyed and occupied by future occupiers, future Jews (Zionists) will mobilize to reclaim this land from whoever takes it illegally from it’s lawful owners.

July 16th, 2014, 6:47 pm

 
 

ALAN said:

The truth is this: who think do to Russia bad, then everyone on the planet will not be in good situation – it’s a fact
Why the U.S. stimulate the isolation of western economy ? it is not in the best shape.
http://youtu.be/ThFNmSLiy0o?t=1s

July 17th, 2014, 10:25 am

 

ghufran said:

The war on Gaza is a PR disaster for Israel and now after BB gave the green light for a land invasion the situation can easily deteriorate.
Arabs as usual as busy killing each other and pretending that this is somebody’s else problem. Muslims today are more likely to send their kids to Syria or Iraq to kill other Arabs and Muslims than to send them to Palestine to fight Israel, even Isis issued a communique explaining why it has not attacked Israel since its inception saying that the liberation of Jerusalem can not happen until Rafida (Shia) and al-munafiqeen (muslim hypocrites) are defeated !!
I do not see how this can end in a nice way for Israel. This is a country that was built by illegal immigration and founded by common terrorists and has been in defiance of UNSC since 1967 and has refused to give back land it occupied by force, it wants to stay Jewish but does not know how to deal with israeli arabs who are multiplying at a much faster rate than Jewish Israelis.

July 17th, 2014, 5:02 pm

 

Tara said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=738245412899952&id=101382669919566

Targeting Palestinian children!

Is there a need to say any more.

July 17th, 2014, 6:01 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Is there a need to say any more.

Yes, if you’re willing to listen.

1.) If you weren’t aware, Hamas stupidly sent about 1000 missiles into Israel. Besides being a war crime, it is simply unacceptable, not just for Israel, but for any country.

2.) Israel doesn’t target children. Israel isn’t Bashar Assad led Syria. Israel targets where the Hamas missiles come from, which is often near civilian and public areas such as schools and hospitals.

Hamas, unfortunately is too focused on freeing Palestine from the evil jews and not building Palestine into a prosperous nation.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=182765

July 17th, 2014, 11:14 pm

 

Jamal said:

The earlier the Western countries start licking back their own spit and collaborate with the legitimate elected Syrian president the better for the security of the whole world not only the region.

The issue is that the Western Zionists want to keep Syria busy with its own civil war otherwise Syria and its leadership will launch a full scale war against the virtual Zionist state aiding our brothers in Gaza.

July 17th, 2014, 11:12 pm

 

Juergen said:

From liberated part of Aleppo comes this Ramadan series…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCU6Y3-EBg#t=90

July 18th, 2014, 12:47 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Putin has sent a clear message to US and UE. This is the typical mafia style language. Using violent accidents to advice what will happen if anyone interferes in the Mafia system of work.

Obama may be happy about his achievements. Some of them:

1) Use of chemical weapons by Assad whithout any consequences

2) Creation of comic states like EL

3) Destabilization of the whole Middle East

4) Invasion of parts of Europe by Rusia

5) Malasyan flight shot down as punishment for new sanctions on bloody Putin

Thank you Obama for protecting nothing.

July 18th, 2014, 2:21 am

 

Tara said:

AP,

Hamas embedded itself on Gaza beach where 4 children were playing? Did you watch the link. Show me where Hama is embedded in that open area? Underneath the sand beach? I yet to understand the psychology of hatred killing children wether it is a filthy Assad Shabeeh or its Israeli counterpart. Why can’t you face the truth? Lots of Jews in the US do and don’t like it.

Jamal,

The regime launching a full scal war against Israel ?
Hahahahahahaha. I m sure you don’t believe it your self. Go play salwa as ya Salwa somewhere else. I m surprised why people enjoy making aockery out of themselves.

July 18th, 2014, 7:43 am

 

ALAN said:

Yes! The world must react forcefully. Israeli diplomats must be sent packing home. Israel is a Criminal state and this collective punishment and onslaught of attack after attack for the slightest excuse since its inception, on a defenseless, besieged people must end. Israel has no moral ground to stand on. The people of the world must demand that their governments intervene and sanction Israel for 40 years of violating international law and committing war crimes.

There would be no Hamas Resistance, if the people were not experiencing a brutal occupation and siege. Where do the Gazans flee to ? They are blocked on all sides.
http://youtu.be/h6-hLtGW1C0?t=1s

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/17/the-human-price-of-neocon-havoc/

July 18th, 2014, 7:44 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Why can’t you face the truth? Lots of Jews in the US do and don’t like it.

Tara,

I saw the video you posted. I saw children running on the beach and I heard explosions without seeing them hit the running children. I saw dead and wounded bodies being taken into ambulances. I do not know what the IDF saw and what they were aiming at or whether there was a legitimate target nearby.

That said, I am sure the IDF doesn’t aim at children. And it is widely known Hamas locates it’s missiles and launchers among civilians. Israel can try to warn residents to clear areas, but in the end Israel has a duty to protect her population and soldiers first.

Meanwhile Hamas is telling the civilian population to stay where they are (near missile launchers), the break cease fires and basically see “victory” as the number of dead martyrs.

I have called out the IDF in the past when they dropped a huge 1 ton bomb on the apt of a Hamas official killing many innocent civilians. I think it was a grave mistake. Anyway, tell me what you would do if you were the Israeli PM. Personally, I think the GOI should install the PA in Gaza. Hamas is too radical and intolerant.

FYI:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-moral-clarity-in-gaza/2014/07/17/0adabe0c-0de4-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

July 18th, 2014, 8:28 am

 

Ghufran said:

Isis controls 35% of Syria according to SOHR, this simply means that there are two parties to talk to in Syria : Isis and the regime .

July 18th, 2014, 9:34 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Tara,

Beyond this tragic incident. I believe that most Israelis reject killing of ppl who are not combatants. There is a minority who is cheering. Every society has it’s a*ssholes.

Gaza chooses war. They could have chose peace. There are plenty of places in this world that are small in size, yet peaceful and prosperous. Size isn’t an obstacle. Look at this list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_population_density

But Gaza and the Palestinians (and also the entire Arab world) chose war, and war they get.

Don’t blame Israel for the mistakes of others. They chose war, and they know that war brings tragedies.
Their choice, their responsibility.

July 18th, 2014, 10:28 am

 

ALAN said:

Breaking: From Global Travel Industry News:
ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board.
The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down.
Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.
Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.
Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region.

Finger pointed at Israel: Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, former Jesuit and confirmed “nutter” let his Israeli handlers put his “nutters” in the ringer this time. “They” chose the weakest minded western leader possible to peddle an outlandish story, one that leads back to Tel Aviv, increasingly recognized as the puppet masters behind the Kiev junta.
Australian PM: ‘Russian-Backed Rebels’ Appear To Be Behind Malaysia Plane Crash
Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Friday that “Russian-backed rebels” appeared to be behind the shooting down of a Malaysia Airlines passenger jetliner over eastern Ukraine
Unconfirmed: Malaysian plane mistaken for Putin’s private jet which had flown over the area only moments before, leaving Israel and the Kiev junta as prime suspects. This may well have been an assassination attempt on Putin.

July 18th, 2014, 10:48 am

 

ALAN said:

/ I think the GOI S H O U L D install the PA in Gaza. Hamas is too radical and intolerant. /

I think you need to teach yourself to not fit in the affairs of others and be in your own framework

July 18th, 2014, 11:02 am

 

Juergen said:

It’s an grave insult by Putin when he blames that due to the war in Ukraine this downing of MH 017 could happen. If those clandestine reports are true and Russia has helped to train those missile defense system operates on the BUK system in the last weeks, then his words of not giving rebels in Syria the manpads they desperately need because that would harm the international commercial flights is just an other big lie of this dictator.

Here is an insight how one of the biggest weapons the Kremlin has these days at their disposal:

Russia Today Correspondent Resigns Over Coverage Of Ukrainian Plane Crash

Sara Firth has been with the Kremlin-backed station since 2009 but quit over the way it handled Thursday’s Malaysia Airlines disaster.

“The way it works with a story like this is that the people who are assigned are very obedient. The second you start to question or report honestly then you’re a problem.

“The first thing that happens is that they assign the usually least experienced in RT, the second is everyone else who’s involved [starts] phoning guests that have a particular viewpoint and are going to say a particular thing.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/russia-today-correspondent-resigns-over-coverage-of-ukranian

July 18th, 2014, 11:35 am

 
 

ALAN said:

It seems that Obama simply ordered to kill the president Putin, – and Ukrainian implementers stupidly mixed planes. Here and all “riddle of Malaysian ‘Boeing'”

No contradictions here are present: taking into account modern western political culture – quite democratic and tolerant decision.

Foreign leader is appointed the enemy – the enemy has to be killed. It is desirable, of course, and it is eaten, – but this business of not so far prospect.

If Obama with all his entourage gladly watched as in a video game, the assassination of bin Laden, if he personally gave orders to kill dozens of extrajudicial using drones people who did not like him, and that on this basis, it was hailed by terrorists – that could prevent him give the order to destroy the man who single-trip literally the next day disavowed solemnly proclaimed it “the international isolation of Russia”?

Thus flying flight MH17 July 14
http://ruposters.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/16.jpg

Thus flying flight MH17 July 15
http://ruposters.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/26.jpg

And so he was sent on July 17
http://ruposters.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/31.jpg

Why is that initially this flight was canceled?
http://ruposters.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/BswzpiBIEAACADs.jpg

The Spanish air traffic controller, who was on Thursday in Kiev Borispol Airport, said in his Twitter, which was accompanied by two Boeing Malaysian Air Force planes of Ukraine.

July 18th, 2014, 2:40 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Apropos the article that Matthew linked to, not many people know that the term ‘Caliph’ stems from the verb “to replace”. also as in Hebrew: ח.ל.פ. “Khalif” literary means “the one who replaces”. In our case, the one who replaces the prophet on earth.

Also, the author forgot to mention the Hoody on the thick cloth Abaya, also attributed to the prophet’s fashion habits. (BTW, Abaya is not just for women, as Baghdadi showed).

BTW2, some Israeli commentators, unlike in the west, didn’t miss the well staged show of symbolism.

July 18th, 2014, 4:41 pm

 

Tara said:

Matt,

I posted my feeling with a curse word and went through automatic moderation.

I will play the system and repost

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154524409495314&id=328835480313

Where is the f-u-c-k-i-n-g humanity?

And isn’t visceral hatred is expected with scenes like this. To those who support the IDF against civilians, enjoy the hatred. It is well deserved.

July 18th, 2014, 8:29 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

You can stick your selective sensitivity you know where.

I still remember the days when you used to admire Nasrallah (While he was sending missiles at Israeli civilians). You called HA “brave”. You even, if I recall, went to the Dahye in Beirut to lick Nasrallah’s feet.

Until HA turned it’s arsenal against the Syrian people. Or to be accurate, against the Sunni Syrians. From then, your love became hate.

I hear no condemnation from you, when barbaric Jihadis from your sect of Islam, kill, murder, abuse, hang, crucify and behead civilians from other sects and religions.

This is because you are a hypocrite with a selective sensitivity. You are very sensitive when it is about Sunnis. Your hatred is visceral when Israelis and other non-Sunnis are involved.

Go preach your righteousness in some Sunni forums, where you will find many partners to share your selective sensitivity and hatred.

July 18th, 2014, 9:09 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Well if you saw the movie, “Mars Attacks”, you’ll understand Israel in the Middle East. One thing you can rest assured, when ISRAEL kills an innocent civilian, heads start “popping” no matter what the terrorists do, no matter how many civilians they put in jeopardy, no matter how many missiles they fire into Israeli cities. It’s a Lose – Lose situation.

You can’t please everyone, especially those that could care less about jews. Oh well, this to be expected.

July 18th, 2014, 10:11 pm

 

Sami said:

It is really telling of the real level of wilful blindness some suffer from when they object to a certain group that want to impose their archaic interpretation Qu’ranic law while they themselves want the entire region be imposed by their own archaic interpretation of Judaic laws…

You shouldn’t throw rocks when you live in a glass house.

July 18th, 2014, 10:40 pm

 

ghufran said:

ISIS attacked the largest natural gas field in Syria ( Al-Sha’er) and killed over 200 people in a surprise assault. This is a major embarrassment for the regime and a reminder that the war is far from over. The army started a counter attack to retake the field but the families of workers, national defense volunteers and soldiers are furious. The real danger beside the obvious (keeping this war raging and increasing blood shed) is the potential for a division of Syria and the redrawing of borders along ISIS-controlled most western areas. This will leave almost half of Syria under ISIS rule (assuming that ISIS stops its attacks). The Syrian army is simply unable to send a large number of troops to aljazeera and can only utilize fighter jets and wait for a regional and international response to ISIS threat. Iran’s response so far has been timid and that led some to suspect that Iran may not necessarily object to the division of Iraq and Syria if that can facilitate its plans to expand and secure its influence in both countries, the problem is that ISIS is a group of fanatics and a terrorist organization that knows how to kill and be killed but does not know when or how to stop.
Turkey is in bed with ISIS and enjoying buying Syrian (and soon Iraqi) oil at a discount then reselling the same oil to regional and foreign companies. A press report indicates that Syrian oil is sold by ISIS at $ 2 a barrel then resold at $ 8 a barrel by Turkish merchants who again sell it at a huge profit to willing buyers who do not want to pay market price (around $ 100 a barrel).
This is how SOHR reported the attack on al-shaer field, a major development indeed:
محافظة حمص – المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان:: تدور اشتباكات عنيفة في حقل شاعر للغاز، بين مجموعات المهام الخاصة في قوات النظام من طرف ومقاتلين من الدولة الإسلامية من طرف آخر، ومعلومات أولية عن تقدم لقوات النظام واستعادتها للسيطرة على أجزاء من الحقل، وأسفرت الاشتباكات اليوم وفقاً لحصيلة أولية عن مقتل وجرح ما لا يقل عن 51 من عناصر قوات النظام، تم نقلهم إلى مشفى الزعيم في مدينة حمص، كما لقي ما لا يقل عن 40 من عناصر الدولة الإسلامية مصرعهم خلال الاشتباكات اليوم، ومعلومات مؤكدة عن وجود المزيد من الخسائر البشرية في صفوف الطرفين، وارتفع إلى أكثر من 270 عدد عناصر الدفاع الوطني والحراس والموظفين في حقل شاعر الذين قتلتهم وأعدمتهم الدولة الإسلامية خلال اقتحامها وسيطرتها على الحقل يوم أمس، في حين لا يزال مصير نحو 90 آخرين مجهولاً حتى اللحظة، في الوقت الذي أكدت مصادر موثوقة للمرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان أن عملية خيانة تمت من قبل الضباط الذين كانوا متواجدين في الحقل، والذين فر معظمهم إلى حقل جحار القريب من حقل شاعر
As for Gaza, time will tell if Israel can achieve its objectives in an area that has 5,000 people per Km2, I think this war will end in a political defeat for Israel and it will weaken Abbas, Israel and Egypt.

July 18th, 2014, 11:35 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Fyi, Washington D.C has 10500/sq mi.

July 18th, 2014, 11:38 pm

 

Jasmine said:

Some useful informations:

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?

Answer: Israel

Question:Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing civilians including children?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International fordemolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States , according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S. ?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferati on treaty and bars international inspections? ?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?

Answer: Israel

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?

Answer: Israel

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East created millions of refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?

Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents from USA and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union ?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?

Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?

Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. votes?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid to the world yet is the 16th richest country in the world?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because “We control America ?”

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?

Answer: Israel..

July 19th, 2014, 7:06 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Jasmine,

You forgot to add: which is the only country in the world that isn’t allowed to defend itself from terrorist organizations who fire thousands of missiles into its territory?

Answer: Israel

BTW – 27 people were murdered yesterday by muslim fanatics. I wonder what the anti-semite Erdoğan is going to say about that.

http://news.yahoo.com/bombings-kill-least-27-baghdad-121510249.html

July 19th, 2014, 8:42 am

 

Observer said:

Birthright my ass.
This is nothing more nor less than Jewish Racism similar to Nazi Aryan Superiority thinking that called Slavs Untermensch
Israel is as racist as the most racist entity that ever existed. Please do not gargle with how much better Israel is compared to the Syrian regime or Saddam. In the end there is not one iota of difference and is nothing than poor propaganda.

As a matter of fact Israel has learned the Goebels propaganda machine and the Nazi discourse of blaming the victim. Just as the Nazis have blamed “jews ” for the ills of the world now it is Israeli Zionist Racist exclusivist thinking.

Some Israelis have said that Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss a compromise. Today Israel is never missing to miss an opportunity to create peaceful condition for coexistence.

I predicted ever more radicalization and predicted that whoever will come after UBL will be more radical. Mark my word Baghdadi is also going to be replaced by a more radical person.

Kill hope and this is what you get.

July 19th, 2014, 9:07 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

I had never the intention of convincing you. It would be futile. You are an Arab and so you favor Arabs. If you were born to a Jewish family, you would favor the Jews. Simple.

According to recent opinion poll, 76% of Israeli Arabs, do not want to change their status. They wish to stay Israelis living in Israel. Ask them why.

Jihad is a self consuming phenomenon. It will first destroy the Arabs and everyone who is unable to protect himself, before it touches Israel.

July 19th, 2014, 9:35 am

 

Tara said:

Amir

Hahaha. A bankrupted answer cuz you could not defend what I linked.

Go and review the record. I was always against ISIS

And did matures over the years to be against HA. Yes I so much admired HA in the past. This was a maturing process. I on SC record came to acknowledge that I was wrong and I am against its techniques of throwing missiles against civilians and discussed samir Qintar’s crime of smashing the skull of 4 yo Israeli

Don’t fool yourself. The hatred is all yours. You matured none.

It is so idiotic to think what is happening in Gaza is inflaming me because they are Sunni . So very idiotic!!!! It is inflaming the whole world in case you have not noticed. Check international social media, not the official ones and read comments.

July 19th, 2014, 9:56 am

 

Tara said:

Lebanese family tortures Syrian child:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=675643715846836&id=371528982924979

If you don’t understand Arabic, get one to translate

July 19th, 2014, 10:10 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Tara,

I read different social medias than you do. Beside some Islamo-leftist demos (in places where Muslims dwell), the world understands exactly what it is all about. Notice that even Russia and China (no supporters of Zionism) remain silent. This is because they know that this jihadi barbarism might reach their cities too.

I’m glad you matured; Better late than never. I expect that you advance in your maturing possess, and one day regret supporting the jihadi Hamas (which the Misfortunate Gazans are the immediate victims of).

July 19th, 2014, 10:22 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Tara,

For the past several years, you were (and probably still are) a supporter of the Syrian opposition and their fight against a self-appointed despot-for-life who got his paid goons to shoot and kill scores of peaceful demonstrators way before the jihadis flooded syria.

Why do you not allow the state of Israel to defend itself against indiscriminate missile fire from Gaza? These missiles could easily fall on the homes and bodies of israel-arabs, if that makes a difference. So you didn’t answer my question, what would you do if you were the president of a country where hundreds of missiles were fired into your country?

For whatever it is worth, I am disappointed from your stance on this issue, as we have been in agreement on many others.

And quite the contrary, European and arab demonstrations are several small groups of anti-zionist and anti-semites. Many more countries are now recognizing the Hamas is at fault, including KSA, Egypt, and Jordan. One arab participant on another website tells me Israel should finish the job and get rid of Hamas and it’s “leadership”.

July 19th, 2014, 10:44 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Hamas rocket kills israeli-arab. I wonder what Erdoğan would do in this instance? We know Turkey has killed thousands of Kurds. I wonder why Turkey doesn’t afford the same right of self defense to Israel?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4546174,00.html

July 19th, 2014, 11:09 am

 
 

Tara said:

Amir,

You read social media much more than I do? Hahahaha . Please read some more:

I guess you did not read the Sweden social media. The king and queen in support of Gaza? Please do not sing Sweden anti-Semite history. Not valid of a response.

AP,

I am not in support of Hamas’ tactics throwing missiles inside Israel indiscrimately.

July 19th, 2014, 1:44 pm

 
 

Observer said:

All the Pew research results will never ever make Israeli occupation and apartheid legitimate. This is a rogue terrorist state with ethnic cleansing as its mode of operation and exclusivist hatred as its principle of action and thought.

The nation state as we know it in the ME is fast disappearing. Iraq Syria Egypt Libya and Yemen and soon Lebanon and Jordan. Then we will have an IS on the border and will see how Israel will deal with it.

When it is clear that a people are no longer willing to sacrifice for their goals as the Israeli society seems to be demonstrating time and again while the opponents are only praying to die for their cause you know who is going to end up ruling the day.

Today there is exact twin identical regimes in Tel Aviv and Damascus and Cairo and Riyadh and Tehran and Baghdad.

They are there to prevent freedom and dignity and to destroy whatever is left in the name of being the last bastion against barbarism yet they are the only source of barbarity in this world

July 19th, 2014, 2:23 pm

 

Tara said:

Amir,

You are not reading enough. Read some more.

17 members of the EU parliament voicing their support of Gaza against the Israeli active punishment. Islamic leftists or anti- Semite. Or what now?

https://graph.facebook.com/Yahya.Hawwa/photos/a.10151802599557439.1073741838.11969507438/10152546018097439/?type=1

July 19th, 2014, 2:49 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

AP,

I am not in support of Hamas’ tactics throwing missiles inside Israel indiscrimately.

Tara,

That statement is encouraging. That’s step one.

Now for the second step, what is Israel supposed to do when Hamas throws missiles into Israel?

July 19th, 2014, 3:40 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Tara,

Islamo-leftist, that is.

A toxic cocktail of haters, who have nothing in common, and that cannot agree on a single issue, but their hatred to Israel. The ‘Islamo’ part would slaughter the ‘leftist’ half, the minute they don’t have Israel to hate together.

Especially I despise those clueless elements within the GLBT community that protest under the banner “gays and lesbians for Palestine”. This really insults me personally. I wish them only one wish: go to Gaza.

July 19th, 2014, 4:09 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Israel and the IS will be best friends, trust me on that.

We will find a creative solution to coexist. Did I mention that the Jews are creative?

Let’s say we will pay them a symbolic 1 ISD (Islamic State Dinar) per year, as Jizya. This will help them explain that they follow the Koranic command.

The new Caliphate will need a lot of help. They will have to feed some 350 million Islamic State citizens. Israel will show them how, and will sell them the technologies. They will need a channel to the west. Israel can help with that.

We will be best friends and wonderful and caring neighbors with the new Caliphate. Trust me.

July 19th, 2014, 4:28 pm

 

ALAN said:

British MP: This is not just a war about rockets, but it is a war about illegal settlements and stolen land.
http://youtu.be/AJWNE83j__k?t=1s
**
http://youtu.be/sn3T2cXFacg?t=1s
**

July 19th, 2014, 5:59 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Ahlan,

Please tell the Muslim MP to go to Syria and Iraq where orders of magnitude more are being killed by other muslims.

July 19th, 2014, 6:09 pm

 

ALAN said:

ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal
The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593

July 19th, 2014, 6:40 pm

 

ALAN said:

JAMAL-
Label: Syria Comment / content: Zion Comment

July 19th, 2014, 6:47 pm

 

Badr said:

“the latest [conspiracy theory] . . . is a self-protecting mechanism that could ultimately backfire”

Why Iran Believes the Militant Group ISIS Is an American Plot

Aryn Baker / Tehran
TIME

That Iran’s media, along with its leaders, is focusing on ISIS’s supposed external backers—as opposed to its origins in local terror groups, al-Qaeda and popular discontent in both Syria and Iraq—demonstrates a concerted effort to streamline the national narrative in order to project power and preserve stability.

July 20th, 2014, 4:34 am

 

ALAN said:

The role of the secret services of America, Pakistan and the United Kingdom run deep and this applies to the CIA, ISI and MI6 respectively. These intelligence units, which switch terrorism on and off, have been involved collectively or between two agencies in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Libya, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia (Siege of Mecca) and now against Syria. It is also known that you have many militant Sunni and Western covert ratlines linking Gulf petrodollars with many murky developments throughout the Caucasus region of the Russian Federation. Indeed, in much of the above it is clear that you have a very anti-Russian Federation dimension.
http://themoderntokyotimes.com/2014/07/18/syria-and-the-reality-of-the-cia-mi6-and-gulf-petrodollars-from-afghanistan-to-bosnia/

Syria today is fighting for its survival against many forces of darkness which will use any means possible in order to crush this secular nation. In the last thirty plus years al-Qaeda and various different terrorist forces have gained because of major Gulf and Western nations. After September 11, it was hoped that America wouldn’t drag itself back down again by selling democracy to geopolitical self interests and Gulf petrodollars. However, the terrorist switch is on once more therefore Syria is on the frontline against extremely sinister forces which seek compliance by supporting chaos.

July 20th, 2014, 5:18 am

 

ALAN said:

GAZA, Dr Mads Gilbert invites Obama to spend 1 night at Shifa hospital during attack, has he got the guts!!!
http://activist1.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/gaza-genocide-urgent-plea-from-dr-mads-gilbert-shifa-hospital/

July 20th, 2014, 6:45 am

 
 

Observer said:

Once again Israel loses another battle and will come out weaker and in disarray again.

Once again the regime in Syria and in Iraq is losing ground to the rebels as the wall of fear has fallen from Tunis to Bahrain.

Once again the forces of oppression are disappearing and being replaced by ever more fanatic polarized populations.

Right wing demonstrators in Haifa chant Death to the Arabs and a Knesset member calls for the killing of Palestinian women as they beget future fighters.

In the end, who is going to accept more sacrifices will win. In this the Muslim fanatics are unbeatable they wish to die in martyrdom and hence the life loving Israelis have lost the guts to fight on.

The only way to destroy Hamas is to invade Gaza and expel the whole population. Let us see if Israel can do that. If it cannot then it has lost the battle.

The apartheid abomination and exclusivist chosen people Zionist ideology is bringing neither security nor prosperity to the Jewish people.

Knowing how stubborn human nature is I predict another folly on the part of the Israeli society who is trying to expunge its defeat in 06 by picking on the weaker Hamas only to have it nose bloodied very well.

Last night 15 soldiers killed. A few more days like this and Bibi will call it quits

July 20th, 2014, 11:48 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

The only way to destroy Hamas is to invade Gaza and expel the whole population. Let us see if Israel can do that. If it cannot then it has lost the battle.

Observer,

Do us a favor and drop the sensationalism. Israel, like every army loses soldiers. I don’t expect pity from an anti-zionist or joo-hater. And don’t expect any from us.

I would worry about your own wretched people who are dying in MUCH greater number all over the ME. The Hamas – led Palestinians are no more valuable than the Syrians and Iraqis. Join the fundies since your people can’t confront them or the despots who force you to kiss their posters. We jews will prevail just fine against the Hamas death cult or any other similar group. Tell Ban – K i – Moon so shove his UN up his ass.

July 20th, 2014, 12:22 pm

 

ALAN said:

/It seems that Obama simply ordered to kill the president Putin, – and Ukrainian implementers stupidly mixed planes. Here and all “riddle of Malaysian ‘Boeing’/
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/19/happened-malaysian-airliner-paul-craig-roberts/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

July 20th, 2014, 12:07 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Brave druse – Israeli ready to return to battle to protect his country from Islamofacists.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4546862,00.html

July 20th, 2014, 12:29 pm

 

ALAN said:

160- Akbar – a Zionist to the bone :
take off your mask. Do not confused the Zionists with the Jews. Your comments are a project of war. You did not care how much will suffering from both sides. You’re an enemy of the Jews in the first place! Stop deceiving!

July 20th, 2014, 2:25 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Israel lost 13 soldiers and 2 civilians according to Israeli sources since it started its war on Gaza , Palestinians lost over 400 people most of whom were civilian. For Hamas there is no going back to the 2012 status where there is a cease fire but a continuation of the blockade, that means Israel will either have to continue the war or accept a new situation where a cease fire comes with the ease of the blockade. In my judgement Israel will eventually have to accept a modified plan that meets Palestinians demands in return for a cease fire, this war is unwinnable and Hamas is not about to accept Egypt’s proposal.

July 20th, 2014, 4:01 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

“…The apartheid abomination and exclusivist chosen people Zionist ideology is bringing neither security nor prosperity to the Jewish people”.

Observer,

Let me ignore the rubbish about “apartheid”.

Israel was never as secure and as prosperous as it is today, July 2014. This is not argumentative. Let me explain.

You get your info about the Israeli society from reading Haaretz. This is not very.. hmmm.. worthy source, if you want to grasp reality as it is.

We are in the middle of 2014, and Israel’s GDP Per capita is $35,000. In 2015 it is expected to reach $38-40K. This is higher than the figures of most European countries, including France and Britain. This means that in ME terms, we are stinky rich. In 2004 (just 10 years ago), this figure was $18,500. I invite you to check my numbers.

Let’s move to “secure”. There is no regular army in the region that threatens Israel (unlike in 1967, 1973). If Israel wanted, she could have erased Gaza and the Shi’i Lebanese territories in 48 hours, with using only conventional means. (48 hours, I’m cautious).

Hamas and HA, with all due respect (and I have respect), are no existential threat to Israel. At this moment in time, at least. HA can inflict bigger damage, because of the weapons they get from Syria Iran and indirectly, Russia. But they cannot destroy Israel, or occupy our land. Do correct me if I’m wrong. Israel will be damaged, and Gaza and Lebanon will be destroyed. I’m sure they know this, that is why we have the LONGEST period of quiet (2006-2014) on our north borders, from 1948 till today.

Islamists will need tanks, airplanes, sophisticate weapons etc, if they plan on occupying Israel. Any idea about where are they gonne acquire those weapons? Who will sell weapons to Islamists? Russia will? China will? Amrica will? Islamists will produce their own weapons? The only thing they can produce is havoc and death.

Bottom line: Israel is secure and prosperous as she was never before. The Arabs are going down and away. Israel is on her way up.

July 20th, 2014, 4:18 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Amir,

My next – door neighbor’s daughter is in Israel on a student, 1 – month tour of your beautiful country and having a great time.

July 20th, 2014, 4:28 pm

 

ALAN said:

We count on return of your FM Lieberman to Russia and Prime Minister to Latvia, A N D S O O N! Did you forget?

July 20th, 2014, 4:38 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أسر جندي إسرائيلي
Gaza City (CNN) – Hamas claimed it captured an Israeli soldier Sunday on the deadliest day yet in the battle between Israel and Hamas militants in Gaza.
Residents in Hebron waved Palestinian and Syrian flags after they heard the news.
The war on Gaza continues while Isis and rebels are busy killing Syrian soldiers and shelling Syrian towns, Israel is not their enemy any more.

July 20th, 2014, 8:00 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The Israeli army officer who supervised the slaughter of over 60 Palestinians in alsjujaiyya in Gaza was col. Ghassan Alyan, an Israeli Arab, he was appointed the commander of Golani brigade and became the highest ranking Israeli Arab in the IDF

July 20th, 2014, 8:45 pm

 

Passerby said:

What other country has ever tolerated hundreds of rockets fired deliberately at it’s civilians without putting a quick and violent end to it?

What kind of a man would deliberately hunt down women and children and then run and hide behind his women and children?

I mean, how can they call themselves men?

Did Muhammad hide behind women and children? Did Saladin?

Strange sense of honor.

July 20th, 2014, 9:05 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Passerby,

Good questions. I guess this means your not a “resistance pro”.

IMHO, Israel has to finish this dirty work.

Tell Barack Hussein Obama to go on vacation again.

July 20th, 2014, 9:54 pm

 

Passerby said:

He’s overwhelmed, bless his heart. A white American with a black face and Muslim name, it was too good to pass up. Not like a qualified one was handy.

Yes, this is the time, Hamas has no friends. And we can all go down the list of the Arab countries that would be thrilled to see their demise.

Sure would be nice if a whole bunch of people don’t get killed though. If anyone can, it’s Israel.

After all, what kind of life is it living in poverty under Hamas rule? Any change would be an improvement. They could live in prosperity and peace, they have that option.

July 20th, 2014, 10:21 pm

 

ALAN said:

Syria President Assad on Gaza, Attacks Saudi Arabia and Arab Spring
http://youtu.be/gw28ZMOZY18?t=1s

July 21st, 2014, 3:01 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

Bottom line: Israel is secure and prosperous as she was never before. The Arabs are going down and away. Israel is on her way up.

Are sure Amir? It seems more, that what you are creating is a enlarged Gaza for yourself, Israeli Jews. Soon nobody wants to be in contact with your tribe, not in business or other ways. The mor murders in Gaza the faster. Israel has no hope to exist the next 60 years as a Jewish state. If we westerns have to choose business with 450 million Arabs with oil or with 5 million racist Jews making constant war in Israel, there is no question which side we will choose in the end.

Amir still for a while in Tel Aviv why did your influential Rabbi Noam Perel, secretary-general of your largest Zionist world youth movement (Bnei Akiva), just urge publicly in Facebook Israeli government to turn IDF into an army of avengers, ‘which will not stop at 300 Philistine foreskins’. As you know those Muslim boys who have their foreskin left are very young boys, which makes this your tribes trophy hunting a bit troubling even with your questionable moral rules. By the way, what on earth do the Israeli leaders do with those “promised” foreskins? Are the old stories for what you need those body parts really true? Surely there must be a reason because your Rabbis demand them.

Many Israeli Jewish girls and women write with their real name and photos so racist comments to Facebook and Twitter, that they would make an experienced white supremacist fascist blush of envy. Who form those masses which shout “Death to Arabs”, who are those who burn Mosques and Churches, who are those who spit on Christian priests in Jerusalem etc.

Let us speak about the Israeli education for Jews which produces these days so unseen racism, that it would not be tolerated in any western country. Your government even sterilizes in secret your own black sisters in religion. What is the religion, culture, education and ideology which leads to do such things? It is needless to constantly try to justify what Israel does by comparing to what happens in Syria or what happened in Turkey 100 year ago. Also this constant whining of the Palestinian “violence” is naive. A racist occupation has a price tag for the occupier.

July 21st, 2014, 5:19 am

 

ALAN said:

Israel Invades Gaza Because It Can
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/24858-israel-invades-gaza-because-it-can

***

Do you remember that the U.S. government came really close to lying us into a war in Syria?

Or that the mainstream media played a big part in both wars … and apologized for their horrible coverage?

So why do you now believe – without any investigation or evidence – the American government and media now saying that Putin is guilty for the shootdown of the Malaysian plane?

The mainstream media – and large gatekeeper “alternative” media – are ALWAYS pro-war.

Do you remember that wars are often started by government lies about the enemy … and that blowing up things and falsely blaming it on the enemy is the oldest trick in the book?

Do you remember … anything?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh17-weathering-the-propaganda-firestorm/5392329

تعالوا لنشيطنهم أيضا!!!

July 21st, 2014, 6:33 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

SimoHurtta,

By “racist occupation” you mean the Arab Muslim occupation of Jewish lands?
Because I see no occupation. I see only reclamation and liberation.

July 21st, 2014, 8:53 am

 

ghufran said:

أعلن الجيش الإسرائيلي فجر اليوم، مقتل قائد لواء جولاني الدرزي غسان عليان متأثراً بجراحه التي أصيب بها برصاص المقاومة الفلسطينية شرق حي الشجاعية بمدينة غزة.
ويعتبر اللواء الدرزي جولاني مسؤولاً عن تنفيذ جيش الاحتلال مجزرة الشجاعية فجر أمس.
Col. Ghassan Alyan, of the IDF, who was the commander of Golani Brigade that attacked al-shujaiyya has died after getting injured in Gaza.

July 21st, 2014, 9:21 am

 

mjabali said:

25000 Christian Iraqis kicked outside of their homes in al-Musel/Iraq. This is a war crime that people will always remember….

It happened in Ramadan….شهر البر والاحسان

Muslims, like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his group are nothing but war criminals and thieves

The ideology that allows you to kick people out of their homes and take their possessions should be put in trial in front of the modern world.

The inability of the world to save the Christians, and other minorities in Iraq is astonishing….

France, England and the United States should do something…….Russia too….

July 21st, 2014, 11:07 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

175. AMIR IN TEL AVIV said:

SimoHurtta,

By “racist occupation” you mean the Arab Muslim occupation of Jewish lands?
Because I see no occupation. I see only reclamation and liberation.

Well Amir the Rabbi’s favorite foreskin hunter in your position of stress and anxiety there in Israel it is refreshing to notice that under that hypocritical your “democracy to Middle East” role, which you have been playing here for years, surfaces that ugly, extreme religious, right-wing fascist which you are in reality.

If you use that your over 3000 year old God gave Israel to you (but did not want you Jews to live there or even rule yourself for over 95 percent of the that time) excuse, it naturally means that he/she (well or both) gave every thing else to us non-Jews. Amir isn’t it so high time for your tribe to get lost from our Christian lands? If you Jews have the right to ethnic/religious cleansing and mass-murders in modern times don’t then all others have the same right? Which makes …. By the way Amir Christian soldiers did not collect young boys foreskins for their priests and leaders like your tribe obviously does, they collected ears, some times scalps and lately in wars mostly gold teeth for personal trophies.

July 21st, 2014, 11:17 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Yes, Amir, you’re a “right-wing fascist” because you have the audacity to defend your country from missiles.

So now the world is split into 2:

Those who believe jews and Israel have the right to self-defense.

And those that don’t.

Which is why governments all over the world are ignoring demonstrations from the anti-semites who hold that jews have no right to self-defense. The concept makes no sense except, of course, to anti-semites.

Gaza is getting what they wanted, a war. I hope they enjoy it.

Mjabali,

Displaced or murdered christians and muslims by other muslims doesn’t matter. Just axe Sim. He only cares about what joos do. He’s a joo expert too!;)

July 21st, 2014, 12:45 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

SimoHurtta,

Obviously you know nothing about Israel, besides reading Jews-hate sites, and google translating those here.

“foreskin hunter” … ???… what is this? google translated this for you? Is it a Finnish lullaby that you tell to Finnish babies before bed time?

July 21st, 2014, 3:28 pm

 

Ziad said:

A thorough study of those criminals shows clearly that the worst genocidal murderers throughout history were mostly Jews.

One can clearly detect a Jewish genocidal characteristic in their leaders and their Rabbis since the beginning of their history starting with Moses along with other leaders and Rabbis such as Joshua, David, Samuel, Saul, Solomon, and others until present day Israeli leaders such as Ariel Sharon, Ovadia Yosef, Shimon Perez, Benjamin Netanyahu, Tzibi Livni, Ehud Barak and all the Israeli Prime Ministers and Rabbis since the establishment of Israel.

While the Jews ferociously attack any non-Jew, who criticizes them or exposes their crimes, they cherish and honor their own genocidal criminals and brag about them in their own literature, their own Jewish media, and even in their own religious books; e.g. the Torah, Encyclopedia Judaica, Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Who is Who in American Jewry, and many Israeli newspapers such as Ynet and many others.

Jewish Greatest Genocidal Criminals – Part 1

Jewish Greatest Genocidal Criminals – Part II

Jewish Greatest Genocidal Criminals – Part III

July 21st, 2014, 3:37 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Zid,

Put all those “criminals” together and you have about a two orders of magnitude (ya’ani 100x) FEWER deaths than those caused by arab Baathists and Islamic fundies.

July 21st, 2014, 9:01 pm

 

Passerby said:

Hard work, family values, respect for the written word and academic excellence, the freedom to debate religion, anyone can do it.

Every ethnic group in the USA that has those values has prospered and all that don’t haven’t. It’s black and white. So it has to be a universal truth.

You don’t need to feel inferior, your family can do it too.

July 21st, 2014, 9:21 pm

 

Passerby said:

Oh yeah, the genocidal criminal thing. Putting aside Einstein, Neils Bohr, Spinoza, Jesus, etc. etc. etc.

Here’s an uncomfortable fact for you. There is no known case of the Golden Rule before Leviticus. None, it never occurred to anyone. And no, “eye for an eye” and “the Eloquent Peasant” aren’t the Golden Rule. All that writing, for thousands of years, and it never ever occurred to anyone.

Good luck finding an exception, I DEFY you. I’m laughing at you.

Not only that, but the first occurrences of the Golden Rule radiate out from Israel at the same time the first Hebrews and Jews radiated out from Israel, with their Torahs, starting with India. Facts available upon request. Keep in mind at the time Jews had a lot of missionary activity. A surprise to a lot of people.

You can argue the Golden Rule would never have occurred to the sons of Adam, if not for the Torah.

They used to think that morality came from Babylon, that they wrote the Torah there and the Samaritans copied it. Not any more, they found the Silver Scrolls, older than Babylon.

And they found the first Hebrew, the first alphabetic writing on earth, 3000 years old, from near Jerusalem at the time of David, and what does it say? It’s the Golden Rule, a summary of all those incredible moral Laws, far kinder to the poor than any government in history…

1′ you shall not do [it], but worship the [Lord].
2′ Judge the sla[ve] and the wid[ow] / Judge the orph[an]
3′ [and] the stranger. [Pl]ead for the infant / plead for the po[or and]
4′ the widow. Rehabilitate [the poor] at the hands of the king.
5′ Protect the po[or and] the slave / [supp]ort the stranger.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107183037.htm

Was it a dog eat dog world 3000 years ago? You better believe it, and if the Hebrews didn’t mix it up on their level, the wouldn’t be here today. But it has the kindness to strangers, because those escaped slaves, with their novel Golden Rule idea, at one time, were strangers in Egypt.

July 21st, 2014, 9:38 pm

 

Passerby said:

And here’s how you know I’m not Jewish. I think the Samaritan Torah is superior to the Jewish and Christian versions, as the Dead Sea Scrolls demonstrate, which is why they were censored and kept secret for half a century as they were systematically degraded. We have video of the thugs manipulating them in direct sunlight with bare fingers and a burning cigarette in their hand doing the manipulating. If not for Eisenman and Robinson leaking it to the world, they would still be secret.

The DSS Torahs differ from the Samaritan version in about as many places as they differ from the Masoretic Jewish version. As you go back in time, the Jewish Torah becomes the Samaritan Torah. Septuagint too.

And it means the two Torahs split long before 2,300 years ago. Long before Babylon. Probably about the same time the Samaritan and Cohen gene split, 2,700 years ago.
http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Shen2004.pdf

The’ve been there for 3,200 years, and the Samatitans, approaching 100% Cohen gene, never left. They’ve always been there and no where else, (other than Alexandria around 2000 years ago.)

July 21st, 2014, 9:59 pm

 

Passerby said:

Oh yeah, the thugs we have on video tape, fingering the DSS with their bare fingers in direct sunlight, with a burning cigarette in their hand, weren’t Jewish. Even if some uncomfortable facts, they would never do that to the oldest versions of the Torah on earth, except for the Nablus Roll.

July 21st, 2014, 10:36 pm

 

Observer said:

It is not because they are Jews or Muslims it is because they are racist. Some are Muslim racist and Zionist Racist and Christian Racist some are simple racist and so on and so forth.

Keeping 1.7 million in an open air prison, depriving them of trade and travel and of basic freedom and keeping their livelihood and economy dependent on the whims of others is a crime. Shooting missiles at population centers is a crime but so is putting people in jail indiscriminately and so is denying them their right to return to their homes.

Mjabali is rightly outraged at the expulsion of the Christians from Mosul but I would also join in the outrage of expulsion of the Palestinians numerous times and of the expulsion of Kurds and or Arabs and of Sunnis and of Shias and of Native Americans and the list goes on.

Humans are the same everywhere but once again self centered exclusivist thinking is pervasive with the idea that the nation has a misconception of its importance combined with hatred of the other.

In the meantime Iran is stoning to death an adulterer male though this time.

Once again, the US should withdraw from the ME starting with Israel first and foremost.

July 21st, 2014, 10:51 pm

 

Passerby said:

Thousands of years of writing before the Torah. In some cases, vast amounts on all kinds of subjects.

One example of the Golden rule before Leviticus.

Just one.

I DEFY you.

People just think it’s so obvious, so fundamental that of course people mentioned it.

They didn’t, before the Torah it was human sacrifice up to the invention of farming and before that it was cannibalism. Approaching the majority of hominid bones starting with the invention of fire(when it became practical) are the result of cannibal feasts. In some cases we can kind of know the story of what happened. It’s depressing.

And the minute they invented farming, it ended, and the human sacrifice started. You can argue the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament and even the Christian New Testament are struggles against it. Abraham/Isaac, Moloch, etc. Even that Temple to Moloch probably on the Mt. of Olives if that sounds familiar…

The Egyptians had become civilized, but when Moses (perhaps in part at least) wrote the Torah, but all the people surrounding the Bebrews fried their children alive in frying pans.

July 21st, 2014, 11:00 pm

 

Passerby said:

I donno’ Observer, if Cuba was firing 1000s of rockets at Miami ans sending kidnappers in tunnels, what would happen to them wouldn’t have anything to do with racism.

Gaza could be a tourist paradise. Good money in that. And you know the Gulf States would invest heavily to solve the problem. They could be living big.

But every step along the way, they choose what will give them the most misery.

And the absolute bottom of the barrel, the men hide behind the women and children. (As they deliberately hunt down women and children.)

Different idea of honor. Different culture.

July 21st, 2014, 11:06 pm

 

Passerby said:

Let’s pretend we can make the decision without leaving the room, see if we can cut a deal.

Minimum requirement for me is for Israel to live in peace.

What do you want to cut that deal?

July 21st, 2014, 11:20 pm

 

Passerby said:

Test #1 to determine the logic behind…

*Your comment is awaiting moderation.*

Let’s pretend we can make the decision without leaving the room, see if we can cut a deal…

July 21st, 2014, 11:22 pm

 

Passerby said:

Test #2 to determine the logic behind…

*Your comment is awaiting moderation.*

…Minimum requirement for me is for Israel to live in peace.

What do you want to cut that deal?

July 21st, 2014, 11:23 pm

 

Passerby said:

Test #3 to determine the logic (if any) behind…

*Your comment is awaiting moderation.*

…What do you want to cut that deal?

July 21st, 2014, 11:25 pm

 

Passerby said:

Result of test: Put…

*Your comment is awaiting moderation.*

…in front of anything and it passes.

July 21st, 2014, 11:26 pm

 

Passerby said:

*Your comment is awaiting moderation.*

Let’s pretend we can make the decision without leaving the room, see if we can cut a deal

Minimum requirement for me is for Israel to live in peace.

What do you want to cut that deal?

——-

Yep, that’s the fix, stick that in front and all of a sudden it likes it. A sacrifice to the computer god.

July 21st, 2014, 11:32 pm

 

SimoHurtta said:


180. Amir in Tel Aviv said:
SimoHurtta,
Obviously you know nothing about Israel, besides reading Jews-hate sites, and google translating those here.
“foreskin hunter” … ???… what is this? google translated this for you? Is it a Finnish lullaby that you tell to Finnish babies before bed time?

Well Amir from Poland (or Ukraine or Tunis) Rabbi Noam Perel is not an ancient Jewish priest, he is a living person and a youth educator. What he said on Facebook, the famous foreskin demands, was widely quoted in the media. Write to Google “Noam Perel foreskin”. If the leader and religious authority of the biggest Zionist youth organization (Bnei Akiva) demands publicly the Israeli government to change its army to merciless foreskin hunters, it is a serious indicator that the Jewish society’s moral foundation is collapsing totally. Write in Twitter #Gaza and you get countless indicators, stories, pictures and videos, of that collapse.

You have still not answered to us gentiles, what on earth do you in Israel do with that foreskin trophy? In some secret old Israeli Jewish cuisine? Or to be used in some old ritual? Certainly for something because Rabbis demand them.

The Israeli government’s secret sterilization efforts of BLACK Jewish women is also a well known fact. The Israeli Jewish women’s and girls’ ultra racist Facebook messages with sexy pictures was also widely discussed. The Jewish “auditoriums” with popcorn bowls and sofas around Gaza was shown to us Nordic Israel “admirers” in our media with pictures to prove that really happened. There is no need to dig out negative stories about Israel. The media is full of them. Why, because of anti-Semitism? No because what you are doing and to what you have developed. Surely Finnish “babies” should be shown pictures from Gaza and be told what kind of racist s…hole Israel today is.

You Amir and your tribal brother in religion and arms, Akbar, have here in SC comment section for years been “advising” Arabs how to get “democracy”, making fun of Muslim/Arab countries and culture plus promoting Zionist propaganda on all possible and impossible connections. Why do you endlessly criticize ISIS and Muslim extremists, when your own nest is filled with nukes, WMDs and many times more dangerous religious extremists (including you two).

July 22nd, 2014, 4:49 am

 

ALAN said:

Is this f****n self defense ?
http://youtu.be/aqzCWJEqjjI?t=1s

July 22nd, 2014, 8:14 am

 

ALAN said:

Israeli soldier posts Instagram image of Palestinian child in crosshairs of rifle
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/18/israeli-soldier-posts-instagram-palestinian
– – –
Israeli Army beating Palestinian boy went viral on Social Media
http://youtu.be/agRKlQwdM_A?t=10s

July 22nd, 2014, 8:37 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

SimoHurtta,

Of course, it is well known that we Jews, we eat gentiles’ foreskins. Usually we marinate them in olive oil and a teaspoon of balsamic acid, then we BBQ them with a touch of black pepper. Or there are Jews who like gentiles’ foreskins medium rare, sautéd with some shallots and one or two garlic cloves. To be served with a glass of young gentile boy’s cold blood.
It’s a traditional tribal food in our tribe.

July 22nd, 2014, 9:09 am

 

ALAN said:

Hateful Zionists still an ongoing project of war against those who disagree with them!

Gaza death toll ‘rises above 600’
stop f****n WAR MASHINE
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=715340

July 22nd, 2014, 10:11 am

 

ALAN said:

Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin:

How many Palestinian children have to die in order to have enough for your intervention to force this ruthless Israeli military machine stop?

July 22nd, 2014, 12:27 pm

 

Observer said:

It is very simple. Palestinians are not similar to the Natives that were either completely killed or exterminated or displaced to make room for settlers and colonialists.

Bibi has miscalculated big time.

Without any proof he renegaded on his previous agreements and imprisoned legislators and persons previously released with the exchange of Shalit and continued to have an open prison policy against Hamas. He wanted to blow up the unity government and in this he miscalculated as Hamas is more powerful, Abbas has become irrelevant, and his base of support evaporated.

The media war is lost for the fear and aversion to sacrifice has left only massive bombing that no matter how precise is only going to show a brutal massive killing machine.

The actual war is lost for a single daily long range missile that necessitates an intercept from the Iron Dome means that air flight is off that area for the missile might hit a plan ” a la Ukraine ”

The ground war is lost as the casualties are mounting much faster than anticipated and a need to go in with troops seems to be requiring a long war of attrition.

So for the Chosen Ones to go the beach and eat ice cream and travel to their Birthright country the entire population of Gaza has to live like animals

Now it seems that someone again is running to the rescue of Israel to get a cease fire going. Well we will see who is going to blink first as Hamas has nothing more to lose anymore.

I heard that the airplanes are being diverted to Beirut and that HA volunteers are waiting to give assistance and shelter and water and mattresses to stranded passengers 🙂 what an irony indeed that Beirut is safer than Tel Aviv

The wall of fear is broken for ever. From Bahrain to Tunis via Gaza and Homs and Deraa

July 22nd, 2014, 9:22 pm

 

Passerby said:

No Observer, the entire population of Gaza doesn’t have to live like animals, that is false.

They choose to live like animals, Gaza could be a paradise.

July 23rd, 2014, 5:34 am

 

Austin Michael Bodetti said:

This post reminds me of an article from Cracked.com.

July 25th, 2014, 11:39 pm

 

Avraham said:

It’s amazing that at least two of the ayaat (verses) quoted in the article are explicitly about the Children of Israel and how they will inherit “the Land”, i.e. Palestine. (Quran 28:5-6 & 7:129)

It is the source of much tragedy that most Middle Eastern Muslims are not really Muslims, and continue to deny the clear Zionist message of the Quran. When that and other mistakes cease to be made by erstwhile Muslims, those same people will become true believers, and peace will be possible.

For now, the pseudo-Muslims who dominate the Middle East are the type of people that the Quran condemned many times as being hypocrites who change the meaning of the Quran and cause strife and terror. All their claims against the Jews are simply a form of projection, i.e. they accuse the Jews of doing or wanting exactly what they themselves are guilty of.

November 17th, 2015, 4:59 am

 

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