Formation of SNC Military Council Causes Uproar among Fighters in Syria and Turkey

Formation of SNC military council causes uproar among fighters in Syria and Turkey

The Homs Revolutionary Council has announced that it will “not coordinate with Burhan Ghalioun in the affairs of the Military Office and its principles” because it doesn’t agree with its goals. It had a 15 minute phone call with Ghalioun. It wants “action not words.” It will retain authority over its own military strategy, “which is to bring down the regime and free Syria from the ruling gang.”

SNC Statement on the Formation of Military Bureau

….the Syrian National Council (SNC) has established a Military Bureau composed of military and civilian personnel. The Military Bureau will track the armed opposition groups, organize and unify their ranks under one central command, defining their defense missions while placing them under the political supervision of the SNC, and coordinating their activities in accordance with the overall strategy of the Revolution. The SNC will work on providing the FSA with all the support it needs to completely fulfill its defense responsibilities, including securing necessary protection for civilians, and tending to the Revolutionaries defending Syrians against the criminal regime. Bureau members will seek assistance from appropriate sources, including experts.

Free Syrian Army (FSA) chief Colonel Riad al-Asaad said that he has not been involved in the formation of a military council. “I don’t know about the objectives of this body,” said Asaad, a figurehead for the collection of army deserters and civilians who have taken up arms. (Reuters)

Ghalioun aide Ausama Monajed told reporters the military body would bring all the factions fighting the Syrian government under one umbrella, evaluate their military needs and try to match them with offers of aid from abroad.

Monajed said several countries, including Saudi Arabia, have offered to provide weapons to the rebels.

“Arms are already being smuggled whether we like it or not, so our role is to organize the process and make sure weapons don’t fall into the wrong hands on the ground,” he said.

The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
مناشدة انسانية……
حمص 1 آذار 2012
مجلس الثورة في محافظة حمص

-انسحبت كتيبة الفاروق من باباعمرو وهذا الانسحاب تكتيكي ، الحرب كر وفر ونحن انسحبنا حفاظا على أرواح الأهالي بعد هجمة النظام الشرسة .

- النظام يقوم بعملية تمشيط واسعة بعد انسحاب كتيبة الفاروق ونأمل من الله ألا تزداد الضحايا لأنه يتبع سياسة القتل الممنهج .

- معركتنا مفتوحة مع نظام بشار الأسد حتى إسقاطه بإذن الله .

- لم ننسق مع برهـــــــان غليون بشـــأن المكتب العسكري والموقف المبدئي من هذا المكتب بأننا لانتعامـــــــل معه لأننا لم نطلع على أهدافـــــــه ..
نريد أفعالا ولانريد أقوال !

- اتصلت بالأمس بالسيد برهان غليون وتحدثنا لأكثر من ربع ساعة وكانت وجهــــــات النظر مختلفـــــــــــة تمـــــــامـــاً ولم نصل لاتفـــــاق .

- نحن قبلنا بأن يكون المجلس الوطني واجهة سياسية ، لكن الشأن العسكري خاص بنــــــــــــــا ونحن نضع استراتيجيتنا العسكرية

استراتيجيتنا العسكرية هي إسقـــــاط النظام وتحرير سوريا من العصبة الحاكمـــــــة

Dennis Ross, “Time For Assad to Go” – WINEP

“it is time to raise the status of the Syrian National Council (SNC), the formal Syrian opposition. It must increasingly be seen as the recognized successor to the Assad regime — or at least the vehicle for managing the transition to a new and inclusive leadership.
Withholding recognition of the council as the alternative to Assad made sense as a way to encourage its leaders to overcome petty rivalries and develop a coherent, non-sectarian plan for shaping the future of Syria. Last week, when the “Friends of Syria” — a group that includes the U.S., Britain, France, Turkey and a number of Arab countries — met in Tunis, international leaders treated the SNC as a legitimate representative of the Syrian people. Though a step in the right direction, more will need to be done to create an aura of inevitability about the SNC as the alternative to Assad.

Post-Asad Syria: Opportunity or Quagmire?
By Patrick Clawson – WINEP – Strategic Forum, February 2012

Perception of the Power of the United States and Its Allies A strong argument can be made that U.S. prestige and influence around the world suffer if the United States issues a call for Asad’s overthrow and yet he stays in power. The United States has a compelling interest in ensuring that any time the President of the United States says something must happen, then it does happen. Indeed, a serious argument for the U.S. military commitment in Libya was that President Obama had said publicly that Qaddafi must go. Talk is not cheap; staking out a position without being willing to act undermines the credibility of every U.S…..

The U.S. call for Asad’s overthrow may provide an opportunity for Washington to claim credit for something that is going to happen anyway; in geopolitics, it is always good to be credited for making the sun rise in the east.

Were Asad to muddle through, Washington would face some difficult quandaries. So long as Asad is in power, it will be hard to walk back the sanctions imposed on Syria, yet it will be difficult to sustain economic and political isolation of the Asad regime if that government looks like it will be in power for the foreseeable future. If that isolation lessens, then the United States and its allies will look like they lost a confrontation with Asad, which would reduce their perceived clout. Asad’s overthrow is by no means assured, and U.S. instruments to advance that objective are limited. The U.S. Government decision to call for his overthrow presumably rested on a judgment that the prospects for success were good and the payoff, if successful, would be high….

Impact on Israel

It is difficult to see how Asad’s overthrow would make Syrian-Israeli peace less likely….

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301. Mina said:

Question for As’ad Abu Khalil: why don’t you provide the link?

Flash: Syrian TV and raw propaganda footage from Aljazeera and CNN
It seems that Syrian regime had agents among the rebels; or it seems that the Syrian regime obtained a trove of video footage from Baba Amru. They have been airing them non-stop. They are quite damning. They show the correspondent or witness (for CNN or from Aljazeera) before he is on the air: and the demeanor is drastically different from the demeanor on the air and they even show contrived sounds of explosions timed for broadcast time. I have to say that Aljazeera and the affiliated Ikhwan media win the award for the largest volume of lies in this crisis. Their lies have been rather helpful to the Syrian regime which now fills its airtime with exposing the lies and exaggerations of the Ikhwan-led Syrian opposition.

PS This is really scandalous. It shows the footage prior to Aljazeera reports: they show fake bandages applied on a child and then a person is ordered to carry a camera in his hand to make it look like a mobile footage. It shows a child being fed what to say on Aljazeera.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/03/flash-syrian-tv-and-raw-propaganda.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 5:48 am

 

302. Mina said:

What is interesting in some of the links to the fabricated videos is that just as for Lybia, they have people who speak a perfect English with a heavy American accent. And no one should be surprised?
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/03/did-you-syrian-regime-infiltrate-rebels.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 5:58 am

 

303. Alan said:

Two Lebanese telecom employees charged with spying for Israel

Two employees of Lebanon’s state-owned telecom company Ogero have been charged with spying for Israel by a military court.

According to local Lebanese media outlets, Shawqi Zantout and Walid Qaddoura were arrested on suspicion of spying for Israel after the army launched simultaneous raids on their houses in southern Lebanon.

On Friday, Lebanese Military Prosecutor Judge Saqr Saqr charged the two with collaborating with Israel by contacting Israeli numbers and demanding rewards in exchange for information on missing Israeli airman Ron Arad.

Lebanese army intelligence units monitored the activities of the two individuals for weeks before the arrests were made.

Last week, a Lebanese military court sentenced three Lebanese men to death after finding them guilty of spying for Israel.

On February 17, the Lebanese high court issued a death sentence to another Lebanese man found guilty of the same crime.

In addition, on January 24 a former army general was sentenced to two years in prison for providing information to Israel.

More than 100 people have been arrested in Lebanon on suspicion of collaborating with Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency since April 2009, including members of the security forces and telecommunications employees.

MHB/MF/HGL
http://www.presstv.com/detail/229686.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:07 am

 

304. Juergen said:

Mina

come on in every steet in Syria you can buy US DVD films, just with subtitles. Most youngsters learn english nowadays from those films.

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:16 am

 

305. Mina said:

That’s the only thing you have to say about these fabricated videos? The same silent-line as the Western press today after the so-called glorious escape of the journalists??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8eKmEZBGpA&feature=youtu.be
(check 12′, 36′, 1h01′)
and again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebrMe1LU8s&feature=related

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:24 am

 

306. Juergen said:

Mina

if thats your claim that its suspicious that people in videos speak american english, then my answer is enough.

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:27 am

 

307. Mina said:

“Fabricated video” means a video where people say lies, have been rehearsing, and fire from guns to provide a background when they are interviewed on air. The links I have provided (after Jad, and through the link to Angry Arab) bring to several of these fabricated videos, from Baba Amro.
Apparently you prefer to deny the existence of such videos. Good for you.

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:38 am

 

308. Alan said:

Red Cross blocked in Homs amid atrocity crossfire
http://rt.com/news/red-cross-mission-homs-syria-701/

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:43 am

 

309. Alan said:

Gunmen executing people in the streets – Homs eyewitness
http://rt.com/news/syrian-witness-report-rebel-crimes-639/
Neil Clark of The Guardian told RT that Western leaders are being highly hypocritical when they criticize the Syrian regime for being undemocratic, and yet fail to respect the views of the majority of Syrians.

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:46 am

 

310. Mina said:

Thanks Alan, here are some quotes from this material:
“Neil Clark of The Guardian told RT that Western leaders are being highly hypocritical when they criticize the Syrian regime for being undemocratic, and yet fail to respect the views of the majority of Syrians.

“Fifty-seven per cent of Syrians have voted, and an overwhelming majority of them have said yes to it,” he said. “It’s a great day for democracy in Syria. And yet what’s the reaction been by the Western leaders? Well, Hillary Clinton denounced it as a cynical ploy. Guido Westerwelle, the German foreign minister, said that it was a sham, but in fact what is a sham is the West’s approach, because the reaction to this referendum shows us that they’re not really keen on democracy in Syria.”

and

“Aisling Byrne, of the Conflicts Forum in Beirut, told RT the Red Crescent twice sent ambulances to Baba Amr, but both times they were blocked by the FSA.

The humanitarian mission “did get ambulances through to take injured journalists out of Homs, and it was actually the Free Syrian Army who refused to let them leave,” she said, adding that the FSA also obstructed the evacuation of injured civilians.”

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:51 am

 

311. Alan said:

Welcome to the “NEW WORLD ORDER”.
All chaos, all the time..

Syria: A Conspiracy Revealed
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30685.htm

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March 3rd, 2012, 6:54 am

 

312. Juergen said:

Satellite picture suggest severe shelling of Bab Amr residencial areas

here is an image before the shelling:

http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&ll=34.712196,36.687212&spn=0.014411,0.01929&t=h&z=16

here is an image after the shelling:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/bild-819020-323355.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:03 am

 

313. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Juergen,

I was never in my life been hassled the way I was hassled by Egyptian merchants and tourist hunters :)
Is the hotel by the Tahrir sqr. that you stayed in, being owned by an Italian old lady?
.

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:19 am

 

314. Uzair8 said:

I caught an interesting discussion on BBC radio 5 last night on the Stephen Nolan show as they went thru the newspapers as usual after midnight.

Charlie Wolf is one guest. He is an american commentator and has worked on UK radio in past years. Lets say he is a bit of a neo-con.

Listen from 2 hr 23 min. They talk about Syria about half a minute later.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cmwkt

Apparantly they started the show on Syria which Im just gonna check out.

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:29 am

 

315. majedkhaldoun said:

Out of all the previous meetings,the next wednesday meeting between Russia and the gulf states ,probably is the most important, Failure of this meeting means that Russia will never change its mind,and military confromtation is inevitable.
So far the FSA has not been successful in achieving some victory, it is week,this is preventing Turkey and the west from getting involved,

Could Putin becomes the next Stalin, demonstrations will continue,it seems that his tenure will be mared with much more disturbances,2012 will witness the Russian spring.this will force Russia to stop supporting Bashar, the worst thing can happen to Putin is the GCC lower the price of oil to around $80.

Norman
You are addicted to SC like me, and you can not leave.

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:38 am

 

316. Uzair8 said:

Analysts have struggled to guess the state of the regime or predict its fortune.

The fate of former Hama Attorney General Andan Bakkour is a mystery and may remain so. However his words will remain long in the memory:

Former Public Prosecutor of Hama, Adnan al-Bakur on the revolution:

“….it confronts a godless regime that believes in no religion or denomination and does not recognize the existence of God. It has security bodies run by individuals who are nothing more than talking beasts. These bodies are considered among the most brutal criminal bodies in the world.”

“Bashar al-Asad regards the Syrian people as slaves who have to deify their king continuously. Those who do not do so deserve death. He is prepared to displace the entire Syrian people to the neighboring countries and replace them with another obedient people whom he settles in Syria. The human mind cannot endure the horrendous massacres committed by Bashar and the killing, torture, and brutalization. What this occupying sectarian gang is doing to Syria is difficult to describe. Nothing is forbidden for them and there is nothing to deter them.

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:43 am

 

317. Uzair8 said:

The regime will have achieved very little by taking a district of Homs if it hasn’t weakened the determination and willingness to sacrifice of the opposition. The 27 day Bab Amr episode was in the hope of instilling fear and deterring the rest of Syria so the regime wouldn’t have to repeat this for every region of Syria, for which it hasn’t the time, money and manpower to do so.

The revolutionaries just have to ensure they are not deterred to ensure the futility of the regimes strategy.

Btw the joke in a previous comment was an ‘April fool’ joke.

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=13817&cp=1#comment-298353

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:53 am

 

318. Alan said:

http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&ll=34.712196,36.687212&spn=0.014411,0.01929&t=h&z=16
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/bild-819020-323355.html

The smoke is very black (or from burning of a Auto rubber or black oil with fertilizer) paints heavens for western Drones . it is located not in the field of residence but on a cemetery near public consumer establishment and isn’t far from there on roofs of houses burn a car of rubber or black oil with fertilizer! Be exact!

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March 3rd, 2012, 7:54 am

 

319. Alan said:

319-
Russia has peacemaking position over Syria – Russia FM
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/357367.html
MOSCOW, March 2 (Itar-Tass) —— Russia sticks to peacemaking in its position over Syria, spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich said on Friday.
“We do not protect the incumbent rule, we protect justice. The Syrian people should find a model, in which it will be comfortable to develop the country in the future,” Lukashevich said.
“This is the simple logic, which is understandable not only for diplomatic officials, but also to ordinary people. It is simple and clear. This is peacemaking,” the diplomat underlined.
“If someone feels uncomfortable in this logic and we realize that many people become to feel some discomfort, we should combat with these moods and prove that no other world order should exist,” Lukashevich underlined.

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March 3rd, 2012, 8:15 am

 

320. Juergen said:

Amir
no this place is run by a egyptian-malaysian couple.

I agree, and it was always a relief for me in Syria not to get hassled the way its done in Egypt and Morocco.The only place i can think of where you could end up receiving big time hassling was on Mt. Quassioun in Damascus. A friend of mine went up there with other friends by foot( he is a marathonrunner and therefore likes the pain) and was very thirsty after reaching the top. He sat in one of the shabby cafes up there and had a drink. At the end the owner wanted 100 Euro for 4 beers, 2 cokes and 1 water bottle and some nuts to eat. It was his first week and he paid it. I was quite angry after hearing this, but as a relief i told him also Syrians get ripped off up there.

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March 3rd, 2012, 8:25 am

 

321. annie said:

To all heroes in Syria who are under bombs in Homs and everywhere… Freedom is coming.

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March 3rd, 2012, 8:37 am

 

322. Juergen said:

here are better images and close up satellite pics of Bab Amr

http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/03/02/syria-new-satellite-images-show-homs-shelling

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March 3rd, 2012, 8:39 am

 

323. Observer said:

I am very pleased that delusional pro regime voices ran out of arguments this time. I am also very disappointed that they did not use insults instead of arguments. I usually enjoy very much when the thin veneer of modernity is quickly exposed.

Norman is leaving this blog; I wonder why for his previous posts advocated exactly what happened in Baba Amr: let the army crush the rebellion once and for all.

Shamelessly the Syrian News has footage of the destruction of Baba Amr attributed to the rebels as if the rebels had MRL, 240 mm Mortar, and what have you to rain destruction on the place. There are two sayings about this: the first is that the regime has removed the skin of its behind and put it on its face and the second is that the regime killed the victim and went to its funeral.

Clearly he who has a shard under his skin gets sleepless nights as we say in Somalyria Alassad.

Long live the independent “sect/clan/family/region/ethnicity”
Long live the Republic of Shalaan and the Kingdom of Malki and the Principality of Saboora.

Any words from j’amuse Aljafaari today? He would like to send peacekeeping troops to the Qatif region in KSA. I say good for you and dito for every town in Somalyria.

Long live the Islamic Republic of Qatif.

Germs and Rats are coming
Cheers

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March 3rd, 2012, 8:48 am

 

324. Uzair8 said:

A message for online revolution supporters.

There is no time to become depressed. There is work to be done. All must redouble our efforts. We are up against a highly organised and motivated online army who have identified the online arena as a key source of revolutionary momentum.

The regime supporters are online in force in an effort to disrupt the online momentum of the revolution and shift it in favour of Assad. Regime trumpets from Syria and Lebanon, Hezbollah workers, Iranians or Serbs have stepped up their activity recently.

Of late the comment section of AJE live Syria blog has become unrecognisable at times after being targeted by an invasion of a horde of trolls who have impersonated many regular pro revolution commentors and spammed the comment section. The mods are trying to deal with this I think going by the difficulty I found in logging in.

For that reason alone we should be determined and motivated to contribute any way we can and thwart their efforts.

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March 3rd, 2012, 9:13 am

 

325. Juergen said:

Good footage from one french photographer who got out of Homs. The report shows the heartbreaking images of a young girl who describes how she get injured, until now she does not know her father and brother got killed in the same attack she got injured. The other image which is very emotional is the weeping mother.

Watch the report from minute 18:22 onwards.

The report is from the news hour of german national tv.

http://heutejournalplus.zdf.de/

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March 3rd, 2012, 9:41 am

 

326. Mina said:

What credibility will remain to Western journalists after this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=erC5dukbok4#t=53s
Same with English subtitles

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March 3rd, 2012, 10:28 am

 

327. majedkhaldoun said:

Previously pro regime said that Abdulrazzaq Tlass has died
today the news that he is alive
نشطاء باب عمرو وفريقها الطبي وطلاس بخير

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March 3rd, 2012, 10:28 am

 

328. b said:

“How Avaaz Is Sponsoring Fake Reporting From Syria”
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/03/avaaz-sponsoring-fake-reporting-from-syria.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 10:31 am

 

329. irritated said:

#321 Uzair8

“The revolutionaries just have to ensure they are not deterred to ensure the futility of the regimes strategy.”

After the humiliating debacle of BA, the revolutionaries are now temporary boosted by the surprising support of the ‘democratic’ KSA and Qatar and from Al Qaeda in supplying them with more advanced weapons to continue their peaceful revolution in cities where they can make useful use of the population.

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March 3rd, 2012, 10:42 am

 

330. Mina said:

3 weeks article that passed unnoticed, “Syria: truth is the first casualty”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/0211/1224311610535.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 10:47 am

 

331. Mina said:

Zoo, I really hope you won’t get under the scissors of Mr Politically Correct, but I suggest that as the dog who wanted to bark and had to go to Lebanon, we move to moonofalabama whenever we need to shout some “explicit thinkings”. Sometimes it is necessary to be explicit.

About your call for Revlon to come back, I am sorry that he has often posted names of people as “pricetags” such as “this Christian woman has been working with the government, she’s an infiltrated mukhabarat”, and in my eyes, this is unacceptable.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:00 am

 

332. zoo said:

#332 B

Avaaz exposes its priorities.
In the petition they posted on their website ahead of the Tunis meeting, ‘humanitarian and civilian protection’ come last.
It is clearer that Aavaz is after the SNC taking over Syria and a regime change. Yet this petition did not seem to have affected the Friends of Syria meeting.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/arab_league_save_syria_3/?slideshow

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:00 am

 

333. zoo said:

#337 Mina

I have never called for anyone to come back. I trust the moderator judgment, warnings and sentence. I believe things can be said without being gross attacks. I agree that sometimes there is need of being more direct. I do browse moonofalabama, it has interesting views and reports.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:05 am

 

334. irritated said:

#329 Juergen

Weeping mothers, dead babies. Professional, glossy, bloody and ‘heartbreaking’ photos … the typical manipulation of emotions to excite the common person in the West to move on one side of the conflict.
We have already a commenter specialized in reporting horror stories about women and children, now there are two.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:15 am

 

335. Mina said:

Does anyone have a link for this:
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/03/aljazeera-leaks.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:19 am

 

336. majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
Mina and Ann are not syrians ,yet they support the violence committed by the regime against Syrians.
So when you say Uzair8 does not have the right to talk, do you mean Mina and Ann do not have the right to talk?

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:19 am

 

337. Mina said:

Majed
Sorry, you are too binary. I don’t support the violence of the regime, but I say that too many lies have been on the side of al Jazeera and the opposition since day 1 to deserve any credibility. I also say that the attack on Syria is an attack on Iran, and that we can then probably expect the regime to answer, but I have also said that the 17 security apparatuses have NEVER obeyed Bashar al Asad.
When Bashar was good friend with Abdallah of Jordan, they discussed several time this fact that some people on the ground (be it the religious fiends or the old mafias of the governors and officers) would not let pass some of the reforms he wanted to bring. Same for Abdallah.
Contrarily to you, I don’t think that a bunch of liars, a bunch of djihadists, and a bunch of ‘activists’ receiving money from Paris, the Gulf or Lebanon (including the uncle in Paris, still not brought to court for Hama and Aleppo massacres), will bring any good for Syria. I have also noticed that every Christian I speak to, Syrian or Lebanese, is not blind to what is going on and the similarities to the exactions that happened in Iraq and brought HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS Iraqi Christians to flee abroad and especially to Syria and Jordan.
If you check my comments from March 2011, you will see that I called for quick elections under international supervision and a referendum. I even wrote so to some Syrians I know who knew some people in the Baath party, just to tell you that I was ready to lose friends and contacts just because I thought that civil war was in the making.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:30 am

 

338. bronco said:

#316 Majedalkaldoon

My view is that Russia will stick to its position of forcing the opposition on the negotiation table with the Syrian government, maybe with a concession of an earlier parlementary and presidential election under international observers.
I also think that despite the USA predictions, Putin will win in force the elections and there will not be a Russian spring.
The catastrophic results of the Arab Spring will probably discourage anybody who want quick changes to happen in just one spring.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:30 am

 

339. Tara said:

Norman

I am sitting in my bed, just woke up.  I am not working today.  It is foggy, rainy and depressing.  Yara made up with Spongebob “the blue eyed” Square Pants and is watching him on TV.  I have injured my left thigh during a workout so I can’t have a lower body work out for a while and I am not in a mood to do anything.  I browsed SC but have not reviewed the usual news sites.  I keep thinking about you. I am certainly not devastated that you’re leaving but it is bothering me.  I must say the departure of Why-Discuss July 21 last year drove me to uncontrollable tears for quite a while.  He was the friend, ironically a staunch pro-regime, I always wanted to have.  Can’t rationalize this attraction when it comes to Why.  On the other hand, I never disliked you..  OK, let me be honest, I actually liked you.  I never thought you are an Islamophobe, and I think I was able to understand your fear.  It was because of you, Minority’s Complex Disorder was coined,  a phrase specifically coined to rationalize minorities’s fear of an unknown future when the majority rule.    

I was searching for God over the last 2 days and couldn’t find him.  The theme for me was where is God when you need him the most?  He was not there for any group of people, however they like to call themselves..  He did not offer a “hand” to the Christians in Iraq after Saddam, the Muslims in Serbia, the Jews in Nazi Germany, or even to any mix of the above in the WTC 9/11.  He most certainly did not offer a helping hand or condolences to the fallen in Homs or to the screaming Homsi children screaming “mommy mommy” being shot at, while trying to flee.

I am on my third cup of coffee this morning and wondering if I should continue to write or not to bother..  I have always struggled between contradictory emotions at play.  Arrogance and humility, aggressiveness and equanimity, melancholia and ecstasy, social empathy and a complete and utter indifference, accusation and understanding, etc..  Will see which emotion is going to prevail at this very second and whether this post will end on SC or in the trash bin of my iPad.

I wrote about the vast majority of Christians supporting the regime in my famous# 81.  When I wrote it, I was hoping that Sandro Low and Haytham Khouri would not misunderstood it.  I was boiling with rage against the excusers and the disempathetic.  I questioned some Christians’s hate for Islam and Muslims and where exactly are the Christian voices decrying the regime’s horror.  I questioned how after watching dead children, beating, destruction, humiliation, execution, subjugation; I am not hearing enough due condemnations that may settle my fears and put me to peace.

…The real question I was trying to ask was that how Tara, the Muslim woman, feeling being hated by the presumed Christians on SC is supposed to feel in return?  Can you love those who hate you?  Can you love those who want you dead?  Can you love “the enemy”?  Who do I bring this question to? Priests?  Sheiks?  Grand Muftis?  Monks?  Magis?     All are not holier than government employees in my mind..  Simple question begging simple answer, yet remained bitterly unanswered.

Norman, do I understand your fear of fundamentalists taking over and persecuting you/yours or blowing up your community?  I most certainly do.  Do I understand your refusal to condemn the regime’s horror and your call to “cleanse” Homs?  I am sorry but I most certainly don’t.  It seems to me that too often, I am supposed to understand others’ fear while no one understand mine…  And too often, I am asked not to stereotype when I am being stereotyped to the bear bone.  

A non-muslim friend of mine wrote me yesterday and I am quote him.  “Tara, I  secretly abhor religions, even the pretty ones, for their service in bondage of human beings.  Not merely control, but bondage.  Too often religion betrays it’s ugly tribal side, and that blood still runs hot around the world..since the dawn of man”.  I can’t agree more.

It is up to you what you want to believe or disbelieve,  but without acknowledgment of our inherent biases and each other’s real or imaginary pain and fear;  Syria as we know it may have been lost for good.        

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:30 am

 

340. Uzair8 said:

@335 MJABALI.

Whatever.

With all due respect I shouldn’t even respond as you have clearly misread my comment.

Firstly I’m British. Where have I mentioned I was Pakistani. Not that it matters.

And where did I say that those nationalities and groups listed were not allowed to discuss syria? I couldn’t care less. They do their thing we do ours. My sole purpose was to point out their increase in activity and the danger of the revolutionary message getting overwhelmed and drowned out if we took the foot of the gas. Btw I should’ve listed disgruntled Gaddafi supporters too.

It seems my several posts a day are bothering you (yesterday I posted 3 if Im correct). Please just skip them.

The post regarding 600 soldiers and tanks, I expressed my skepticism at the time. I can’t find the post.

I understand your sentiments regarding what is happening in Syria. I have always understood that is for Syrians to decide on the course of action and it is not my place to encroach on this boundary.

As a matter of fact I have been cautious about militarisation and believed it would play into the hands of the regime and bring it’s military superiority into play.

Put aside the ‘calling to violence’ for a minute and see what is happening on the ground. The regime is indiscrimanately shelling towns and the pro regime on here are gloating. What do you have to say about that?

My message was for the pro revolution to not slack.

Have a nice day.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:35 am

 

341. majedkhaldoun said:

Mina
you said “I don’t support the violence of the regime”
Then why don’t you condemn the regime for the violence that you are against,
I like you ,and always, to be consistent and condemn the regime for the use of violence, not even once I read your comment do that.

As for the election with international observers,I and many in the opposition have been calling for that,but the regime refused the internatonal obsevers,and kicked out foreign press,and ran a referendum for a fake constitution which does not come close to a reform,I never read your comment condemning that.

Bronco
Do you want to bet?there will be more demonstrations in Russia.

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:57 am

 

342. mjabali said:

[Mjabali, Revlon is free to post tomorrow, SNK is free to post in five days. I ask you to help keep Syria Comment open and civil for everyone. Please avoid singling out a person's citizenship, place of origin or national group to suggest this precludes participation in discussion - Syria Comment is a forum with international readers and commentators.

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Everyone, please avoid personal attacks and insinuations. Address other commentators with a minimum of insult, veiled or open. Direct personal accusations, provocations and discriminatory language are not tolerated.

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Uzair8:

You said: “…..from Syria and Lebanon, Hezbollah workers, Iranians or Serbs have stepped up their activity recently. ”

So, a Pakistani like you thinks he has the right to discuss Syria and call for certain agendas, where these nationalities and groups are not allowed?

Could you please explain to me what gives you the right to speak about Syria and they are not allowed to?

So if you want to stop the Iranians the Serbs from discussing Syria at least give us something of value regarding Syria instead of your emotional outbursts and links to some senile Sheikhs…..?

If I have the time I would search for the post you posted claiming the death of around 600 Assad soldiers and the destruction of around 60 tanks and armored vehicles in al-Zabadani. (Actually you and mr. Revelon posted the same news about that imaginary battle)

PS: There is a number of non-Syrian hell raisers talking that crap about revolutions. Some think themselves Che Guevara/Khattab or something. My country Syria is in Hell now, where Syrians are killing each other and no one is able to do an iota about it. The last thing we Syrians need in this hard time is a person who is not from Syria and call for violence over there.

Uzair I advise you to NEVER try to silence anyone here. You can do that in your religious chat room where that is the norm.

Fight logic with logic if you can.

Free Syria No Kandahar
Free Revlon

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March 3rd, 2012, 11:58 am

 

343. Mina said:

Majed,
Sorry you don’t read what I wrote for a year.
You ask why I don’t condemn the regime: I wrote several time that these are mafias fighting each other, so speak of regimes rather of a regime. But I don’t believe that if Asad has taken a plane and left, the country would be in a better shape now. Some people in the governement have never ordered shooting, but they have no control on the local governors and on Maher. That does not mean that fleeing will help. Actually they are the only ones, from inside the “regime” (or one of the regimes) to know where the thread lead to, and to be able eventually to talk to all parties.
You ask why I don’t support the journalists? Because one year ago, so-called journalists were smuggling satellite phones as they had done in Egypt and Lybia. They also keep reporting on a daily basis the fake news from Barada TV, the unverified report, etc. Some people trust the UN and think that since the UN confirm, it must be true. I doubt. This is not to say that some people did not protest genuinely and pacifically, in some places, but their revolutions were quickly hijacked by the GCC counter-revolution, and will keep being so until somehow the GCC is neutralized. This may happen as the lies and hysteria they propagate get to the mainstream news, some day. As for Iran, it will follow the move when other places such as the Gulf and Israel won’t have religious regimes or religion-based dictatorships. Everybody knows the Iranian regime is backward, and primarily the Iranians who would happily get rid of it, but this cannot happen in such an environment of takfir.

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March 3rd, 2012, 12:16 pm

 

344. jna said:

“This is rather explosive. You know how low Aljazeera has sunk when Syrian regime TV stations have a field day with the shoddy journalism and fabrication procedures of Aljazeera. It seems that people inside Aljazeera have leaked raw footage and pre-air reports to someone in Syrian regime TV. I am not surprised of the leak at all: I am in contact from people inside Aljazeera who are disgusted by the propaganda work of the network in the last few months.” (…)
“The footage that are being shown show staging of events of calling a civilian an “officer” in the Syrian army, of faking injuries and feeding statements to people before airtime, etc. Aljazeera seems to be writing its own professional obituary.”(…)

read it all … http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/03/aljazeera-leaks.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 12:36 pm

 

345. Badr said:

Power cuts and price rises as conflict bites in Syria

By James Harkin
Damascus

A full 60% of Syrians are under 25 years old. They want a better life, of the kind that they see on Facebook and on cable TV.

And now they are taking increasing risks to speak out against the regime. And not even a bumper crop or the promise of their own mini-generator is going to buy them off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17226817

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March 3rd, 2012, 12:40 pm

 

346. Mina said:

Does this sentence say that Poland is now the representative for the US?
“The US embassy in Damascus has closed and it is understood that their interests are being represented by Poles in Syria.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/marie-colvins-body-arrives-in-damascus-7501211.html

Yes it does. Weird style.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/journalists-bodies-handed-over-in-syria-7503206.html

What about another “clean”, “democratic” war?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/protests-grow-as-civilian-toll-of-obamas-drone-war-on-terrorism-is-laid-bare-7494409.html

Or: “how things work in the real world” (for Majed)
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-jailed-in-geneva–the-colonel-who-stood-up-against-mubarak-but-refused-to-spy-for-the-swiss-7469072.html

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March 3rd, 2012, 12:43 pm

 

347. bronco said:

#346 Badr

Maybe prices have risen but I heard that the monthly charges for Internet in Syria has been cut down by more 25% as per an announcement 3 days ago.
Does anyone see a reason why the Syrian government is doing that?

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March 3rd, 2012, 1:07 pm

 

348. Son of Damascus said:

Jna,

Asa’ad Abu Khalil is funny, in his latest piece he is screaming propaganda by the opposition based on propaganda shown by the regime.

Wow, someone give that man a Peabody award for his groundbreaking analysis, can’t wait for him to explain the Israeli currency that was shown on Syrian TV (that turned out to be Filipino currency)

I guess using his logic we can add the Philippines to the list of countries that is conspiring against Syria, they have already infiltrated in large numbers pretending to be nannies taking care of the elites children, it is only a matter of time before they strike.

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March 3rd, 2012, 1:13 pm

 

349. mjabali said:

Majedkhaldoun:

Read what I wrote again. Again you did not understand what I write in plain language.

I said what gives Uzair the right to silence the Serbians and the Iranians while he is allowed to put in two cents into the debate about Syria.

I do no care if you are from the moon if you call for peace in Syria, but if you are not Syrian you should be careful not to incite or glorify violence in Syria as some non-Syrians are doing here at this post. Hell raisers do not go well with me at this time especially with what is going on in Syria.

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March 3rd, 2012, 1:14 pm

 

350. Son of Damascus said:

Maysaloon newest post:

SATURDAY, MARCH 03, 2012

Sharmine Narwani – Hear No Evil, See No Evil

I’ve been meaning to write a proper rebuttal to Sharmine Narwani’s latest article on al Akhbar English. I’d previously critiqued an earlier piece she wrote, where she was accusing the so-called mainstream media of ignoring the fact that Syria’s revolution also included an armed element. The biggest problem with that piece was that the mainstream media had, as a matter of fact, been reporting about the armed elements of the uprising, and the creation of the Free Syrian Army, pretty much as soon as it began to occur. So Narwani had basically constructed a straw man to use for her argument.

[...]

http://www.maysaloon.org/2012/03/sharmine-narwani-hear-no-evil-see-no.html?spref=tw

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March 3rd, 2012, 1:16 pm

 

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