From the Comment Section (26 April 2012)

From Foreign PolicyViolence continues in Hama

An explosion in the Masha at-Tayyar district in the city of Hama killed up to 70 people. The Syrian government and opposition activists have offered conflicting accounts of the blast. According to Syrian state media, 16 people were killed in an accidental explosion in a house that was used as a bomb factory by “armed terrorist groups.” However, activists have reported several houses have been destroyed by what they claim could have been a Scud missile attack, killing up to 13 children and 16 women. The BBC’s Jim Muir reported that the magnitude of devastation could not likely have been achieved by conventional shelling. The opposition Syrian National Council called for an emergency United Nations Security Council meeting “so that it can issue a resolution to protect civilians in Syria.” France has recommended stronger action by the United Nations, calling for a Chapter 7 mandate that would allow for the use of force if President Bashar al-Assad’s forces do not pull back according to Kofi Annan’s peace plan.

Members of the UN monitoring team in Syria, with opposition activists in Homs. Photograph: Handout/Reuters

Nour said:

The previous blog entry seems to be inciting against the Annan plan and hoping it would fail so that a subsequent phase of possible military intervention may take place. Moreover, the report on the electoral list is misleading and disingenuous. It links to an article listing the candidates of the Baath Party only, implying that those are the only candidates running in Lattakia, which is not true. Members of other parties as well as independents are running both in Lattakia and across the rest of the country. The Popular Front for Change and Liberation, for example, which includes the opposition SSNP and Qadri Jamil’s The Will of the People Party, has 45 candidates across Syria. Other new parties have also listed their candidates and the ballot boxes will determine who wins the majority of the seats in the People’s Assembly.

[Landis adds: thanks for this correction, Nour]

Ghufran said:

The next 6 months are unlikely to include a major shift on Syria unless the opposition scores a significant military defeat against the regime. This period will be used by both parties to strengthen their position on the ground. The lack of any serious political proposal that adresses the grievances and concerns of the sizable pro regime Syrian forces mean that the only option on the table is to fight and preserve as much as possible of the gains made in the last 2 months. If Syrians themselves are not willing to compromise nobody will do that job on their bahalf.

Observer said:

I have been in the ME for some time now. The regime is losing grip on significant part of the countryside including around Damascus. Only 15% of new conscripts showed up to be recruited this year. The number of defectors has reached 100 000.

Cham Press announces that the dollar is trading below 70 pounds in a so called sign of improvement therefore countering the official rate of 60.

Very little support is available to the FSA from the outside and this will await the US elections before any real policy to emerge

zoo said:

Rice: The “friends of Syria” have been ironically promoted to the “Friends of Democratic Syria” when the most influent members, Qatar and KSA are non democratic countries preaching democracy to others…

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Rami Khouri: “…For many tens of thousands who were prepared to demonstrate peacefully – albeit at the cost of their lives – this has become a disaster. Syrian friends of mine call it a “tragedy”. They blame the Gulf states for encouraging the armed uprising. “Our revolution was pure and clean and now it’s a war,” one of them said to me last week. I believe them”.

I utterly agree with Khouri and his friend. The irreversible mistake of resorting to arms will be fully revealed in the coming years, if not decades.

amnesia said:

In comments above I read that the secular opposition will join the Assad government, and that the opposition arming was a mistake. Please make some sense guys for a change. The soldiers who defected did so rightfully, and their willingness to risk their lives to create a challenge for Assad’s remaining forces is laudable.

DAWOUD said:

The Syria Revolution against Bashar’s, and his father’s before him,oppression began as completely peaceful. I has become militarized because of the regime and its allies (Hasan Nasrallah, Iran,…) began to use violence and murder innocent unarmed demonstrators. People have the right to defend their lives, property, dignity, and honor!.. The overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to the murderous Bashar and his shabiha. Free Syria, Free Palestine!

irritated said:

Dawood, What proof do you have that the “overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to Bashar?” If it was true how come nobody goes on strike when asked to? That’s the least the ‘overwhelming majority’ could do. … Most anti-Syrian government types keep repeating “It started peacefully’ trying to justify the issue that ‘it continued violently’ and that it is now made of death squads infiltrated by islamist extremists and criminals.

ZOO said:

This is what will happen in Syria whether Bashar stays or not?

“The terror network has taken advantage of the country’s political turmoil of the past year to capture several southern areas, and the Americans are eager to coordinate efforts with the Yemenis to push them back.

An al-Qaida settled and safe in the remote interior of southern Yemen would allow its militants to plan and execute more attacks on Western interests, taking advantage of proximity to strategic shipping lanes in the Red and Arabian seas through which much of the West’s energy needs to pass.
(…)

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1. Aldendeshe said:

For how long the shia backed Dictator Batta will keep killing Syrians and destroying Syrian cities, for how long the Saudi/Qatari backed mercenaries will continue in a way that will end life for Syrians but keeps the regime thriving and enjoying Damascus nightlife.

It looks lke that is by design, the endgame is to destroy Syria, kill millions of Syrians but keep the Batta and Baathist in power to protect Israel. Syrians been had by the master deceiver.

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April 26th, 2012, 12:39 pm

 

2. Akbar Palace said:

I utterly agree with Khouri and his friend. The irreversible mistake of resorting to arms will be fully revealed in the coming years, if not decades.

Professor Josh,

So “resorting to arms” was a mistake?

I’ll make sure the Assad family gets your “profound” message.

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April 26th, 2012, 12:41 pm

 

3. Aldendeshe said:

@AKBAR
Just make sure that profound message sent in Duckistani. You don’t wan’t it to get lost in translation.

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April 26th, 2012, 1:07 pm

 

4. Afram said:

I agree with Akbar

Hamas should resort to Huh ? Can you please explain this remark fixing Israelis inside cafes & buses coz PA Abass attempting negotiations with Netanyahus regime is futile.

So Hamas “resorting to arms” is kosher, Akbar!?

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April 26th, 2012, 1:30 pm

 

5. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

No words

[ Man Buried Alive begs for his life ]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e7_1335400313
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April 26th, 2012, 1:47 pm

 

6. Shami said:

[Shami, do NOT repeat the coda below. This is a moderation warning.]

http://www.aymennjawad.org/11589/nizar-nayouf-al-haqiqa-syrian-christians

On STOP Jad’s bible.

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April 26th, 2012, 1:56 pm

 

7. Badr said:

AP,

Not so fast. That ““profound message” was your cyberpal Amir’s, and not JL’s!

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April 26th, 2012, 2:03 pm

 

8. omen said:

who is this man?

(Reuters) – A group of opponents to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, including members of armed factions in the country, will unveil an interim government on Thursday and claim that unlike the Syrian National Council (SNC) it will have legitimacy in Syria.

Dawalibi’s father Maarouf was Syrian prime minister before the Baath Party and Assad’s family took control. He fled Syria in the early 1960s and became an adviser to several Saudi kings.

do syrians posting have memory of a time before assad regime?

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April 26th, 2012, 2:06 pm

 

9. Akbar Palace said:

Amir,

No words indeed.

BTW, did you state:

I utterly agree with Khouri and his friend. The irreversible mistake of resorting to arms will be fully revealed in the coming years, if not decades.

as Badr suggested? If so I apologize to Professor Josh, and my remark goes to you habibi. If anyone made a mistake using arms it was the Syrian government.

Yom Hatzma’ut Sameakh

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April 26th, 2012, 2:12 pm

 

10. Uzair8 said:

There are the obvious reasons why the high profle political, military and business figures haven’t as yet defected. Reasons such as fear for the safety of oneself and family aswell as fear over ones wealth and property.

One reason which may have passed us by is the fear of revelation of humiliating info. The mafia regime with it’s multiple layers of intelligence and spy agencies will no doubt hold files on everyone including evidence showing figures in compromising situations (intimate).

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April 26th, 2012, 2:13 pm

 

11. omen said:

uzair8, i don’t think humiliation is enough to sanction atrocity. but maybe that’s just me.

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April 26th, 2012, 2:29 pm

 

12. Uzair8 said:

The following is just to share an observation. Just sharing some thoughts. One doesn’t have to agree with it.

It has crossed my mind that maybe there is an invisible force keeping everyone (incl. major and regional powers) at arms length preventing them from intervening.

Ok we can make an excuse for Nato and the West as they are over stretched and Syria is a formiddable challenge.

How about Turkey? Well a year on and still nothing from Turkey other than tough talk. Fear of hurting their political, security and economic interests in the region may be holding them back.

Saudi and the GCC? Dragging their feet. In essence buying time for the regime. Chance after chance. No action. Although it is obvious to them that Assad has no intention to play ball and they must start thinking about alternative options as pressure from their own and global population increases.

UN? Hands tied with the Russian obstacle.

Nobody else? Is it just words and no action?

I’ve wondered. Is this by chance and the regime got lucky or is God Almighty preventing anyone from intervening as He intends to deal with the regime Himself? Time will tell.

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April 26th, 2012, 2:32 pm

 

13. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

Dawalibi’s father Maarouf was Syrian prime minister before the Baath Party and Assad’s family took control.
________________________________________________________________

@ Aldendeshe Said:
It is a good start in the right direction, but please don’t include any former Baathist or those responsible for your father overthrow, neither any of their grand children please, you will ruin a good start, stay clean with this government, just as your father had it. Good luck. Let us know how can be of help.

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April 26th, 2012, 2:33 pm

 

14. Uzair8 said:

#10 Omen

I agree, however, I wasn’t referring to sanctioning regime actions. For someone to defect they have to face a list of consequences. It would take a brave and selfless person to have the attitude of ‘come what may’. They could find an image or video of themself plastered all across the internet.

Elites tend to have secrets that can be used against them. The system has actually encouraged corruption amongst the ruling class.

Perhaps the FSA should think about setting up a special forces stealth division in order to infiltrate the intelligence headquarters where such ‘info’ is kept and destroy any such evidence? LOL.

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April 26th, 2012, 2:43 pm

 

15. Alan said:

128. ALAN said:

“SYRIAN OPPOSITION”: Mossad, Blackwater, CIA Led Operations in Homs. Weapons from Israel

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30545

“The crisis is at its end” is no longer a relieving statement made by some political analysts, as the crisis is really close to its end. Baba Amro is now under the control of the Syrian army… and so are the armed groups of which a big number escaped to the Lebanese borders dubbing their retreat “tactical”.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:01 pm

 

16. Tara said:

Mawal 95 or any one

I made a mistake of opening the link Amir posted for burying a man alive. Can anyone please review it and tell me it is fake. I do really need to hear it is fake.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:08 pm

 

17. Amnesia said:

The portion of my comment quoted above doesn’t come close to doing it justice.

Continued:

“Anyone who thinks otherwise, and anyone who thinks the opposition they like should split and join the mafia, is being completely disrespectful to millions who have suffered through this past year only standing up for what is right. Your comments are inexcusable. You have been on this forum since the beginning, and you are now effectively defending the atrocities. Shameful”

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April 26th, 2012, 3:09 pm

 

18. Aldendeshe said:

BATTA are not known to hid head in the sand, but Syrian BATTA is doing it anyway. Here is an example of Syrian BATTA delusion:

“Syrian opposition” are Mossad, Blackwater, CIA operatives, no real Syrian opposition to the BATTA rule and his one man 40 years running comedy and tragedy show.

Yes, there are Blackwater, CIA, Mossad, Turkmen, Saudis, Qataris, NATO, Hariri…long list, you name it they are operating in Syria disguised as opposition. But, there are real Syrian Oppositions and the dim witted BATTA could not make a separation to accommodates them and leave the foreign operatives on dry run.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:18 pm

 

19. omen said:

irritated said: What proof do you have that the “overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to Bashar?

CNN’s Rick Roberson says “Al-Assad still has 20% to 30% support of the population … They still buy his message that he is fighting terrorist groups who are backed by an international media conspiracy.” Fawaz Gerges, director of the Middle East Center at the London School of Economics says “I think he has at least 30 percent solid support…

also indicative:

[FSA] still capable of inflicting heavy casualties on the Syrian military and operating fluidly within supportive populations.

If it was true how come nobody goes on strike when asked to? umm, cause they’re poor?

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April 26th, 2012, 3:19 pm

 

20. Son of Damascus said:

Tara,

Storyful has cast doubt over the video:

“Syrian forces allegedly bury alive a civilian from Al Qusair, Homs in the graphic video above. Storyful has spent several hours assessing the available evidence surrounding this footage. We are particularly grateful for the advice of highly-experienced observers of video from Syria. We cannot definitively say this video is a fake but do believe there are serious grounds for doubt about its authenticity.”

http://storyful.com/stories/26986

It seems to be a hoax as a scare tactic, I will update with more information if it becomes available.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:34 pm

 

21. omen said:

irritated said: If it was true how come nobody goes on strike when asked to?

because that would automatically mark them as a target for retaliation.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:34 pm

 

22. omen said:

SNP, he also claims this:

Over the past months, Mr. Al DAWALIBI has received the increasing support of tribal structures, of the traditional Islamic schools and also of the moderate majority of Christians. His relationship with the Kurds in Syria is described as good and reputed Alawites families also give him their confidence in managing the future.

really? alawite support?

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April 26th, 2012, 3:39 pm

 

23. Son of Damascus said:

A few days ago a pro regime commentator posted a video of a lady and men that were being ruthlessly beat up by what they claim to be “terrorists”. However the link to the video they posted (which came from SyriaTruth) was edited and shortened.

Below is the unedited footage of what happened (with audio which was missing from the earlier video) and you can see and hear who those “terrorists” really are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rOqTzCWZLY&feature=youtu.be
(Graphic content)

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April 26th, 2012, 3:42 pm

 

24. jna said:

About this Article

Summary:

The media has already declared the UN observer mission in Syria a failure. It hasn’t stopped the violence and cannot protect protesters. Of course it hasn’t been effective yet, writes Daniel Serwer. It hasn’t really arrived. It will likely take the still-growing mission weeks, at best, to quell the violence. The Annan plan may still fail, it hasn’t failed yet.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/has-the-un-failed-in-syria.html

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April 26th, 2012, 3:45 pm

 

25. Uzair8 said:

#12

Dear moderator.

I guess the quote wasn’t necessary although I felt it was related to the preceding comment.

My intention wasn’t sectarian and I always try to be careful. It wasn’t meant as a warning to the Alawis. My understanding of the quote is that it refers to those who are part of the regime (and it’s actions) regardless of their background. It refers to ‘Ba’thiyyin’ (Baathists). The bracketed ‘ruling alawis’ may have been added by the students of the Sheikh responsible for the transcript. (?) My understanding is that a point will come when the regime and it’s forces will realise the futility of their actions and will run due to their guilty consciences. My intention was to give the revolutionaries an optimistic scenario of a successful revolution.

Initially I intended to post this ‘observation’ yesterday but forgot. The Sheikh’s comment was a late addition and I did hesitate before doing so but went ahead as I have posted that quote several times on SC before without any objections.

In hindsight it was unneccessary and a misjudgement so I apologise for crossing the line. As comment #12 may appear sectarian I politely request the moderator kindly remove the quote in question.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:52 pm

 

26. MM said:

I have penetrated the intelligence ranks of the Syrian regime and have a solid source of information as to their cyber tactics this week.

It is evidenced by the comments you posted above.

This week’s PsyOps are intended to gain credence by suggesting the revolution was ‘good’ until it became militarized. The idea is to shape public perception as to the arming of the FSA and other threatening elements to the regime. Words such as it was a “mistake” will be used. Of course, the logic missing from these arguments are the fact that it took a long time before it did become ‘armed’ and only after many thousands of innocents were killed did the shift occur. This shows that the regime sees the only threat to it’s existence as one that I armed. All other peaceful avenues are futile in their mind, as it will be easily crushed through the use of the State’s apparatus.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:54 pm

 

27. Antoine said:

Al Dawalibi and his likes are the ones who should lead Syria…..its about time these uppitty Baathists are dragged to Hama al-Azm Palace in chains and forced to apologize.

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April 26th, 2012, 3:55 pm

 

28. Antoine said:

My dear friend MINA, if you are reading this :

While you’re at writing your little comments on Syria-Comment, can you give us some Leftist ideas, how to feed these starving peasants of Syria ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSU-xcJpZZk&feature=relmfu

What do you propose to do to feed the starving peasants of Nahia Uqayribat and Kubeybat in Reef Hama ?

What do you propose to do to feed the starving peasants of Nahia Deir Hafir of Reef Halab ?

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April 26th, 2012, 3:59 pm

 

29. Son of Damascus said:

MM,

“This shows that the regime sees the only threat to its existence as one that I armed. All other peaceful avenues are futile in their mind, as it will be easily crushed through the use of the State’s apparatus.”

I beg to differ on that point, yes the regime has been using heavy handed tactics from day one, mowing down peaceful protestors, detaining civilians, torture, ….

However the huge spike in regime retaliations only came about after the revolution started to arm itself, the regime ended up using the futile tactic of “killing a fly with a canon ball”. Having been using that kind of overwhelming power to “crush” the revolution is making them believe they can win this militarily (Which is correct, they are better equipped, better organized, and in much bigger numbers military speaking)

The biggest threat to the regime that we have seen so far in the last year and a bit was when Hama was an autonomous region far from the control of the Baathists government, or when Clock Square in Homs was filled.

The regime will not enter into close combat situations (when they did heavy losses were inflicted to their personnel) only after they encircle and bombard with artillery, tanks, and mortars the area then they enter. This has proven costly for not only the revolution but to the people helping to overthrow the regime, because the regime has shown it has no problem in dishing out collective punishment.

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April 26th, 2012, 4:10 pm

 

30. Aldendeshe said:

@OMEN..

So, SNP have wide Alawite and Christian support. So what..What is the point!!

He still needs Military backing or someone that can assemble the right effective hardware for him to level the field with Assad’s units and armament without resorting to horrific terrorism and murdering Syrians. SNP can do that, but we have not enough cash.

Assad, understood the game plan. He understood that whoever financially and militarelli supporting the “Syrian Oppositions” to his Baathist Sectarian rule are only doing it to harass his regime, and really are not seriously after removing it. He also understood that all they wanted is to destroy Syria and kill Syrians and he has no problem with that, he is playing the game as well. He knows that no one will front the Syrian opposition sufficient materials and cash to win, he can figure that out. He understood, that what is really being plotted and carried out is a way to use the opposition as cover, when in fact they wanted something from him (Saddam’s or his personal saved Billions perhaps), Deliver the Golan on a Silver Platter, who knows. One thing is sure, no one has interest in seeing Syria a prosperous, progressive, democratic and strong State.

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April 26th, 2012, 4:14 pm

 

31. omen said:

30. Aldendeshe 4:14

no, no, not that snp, i was address this poster:

13. Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Dawalibi’s father Maarouf was Syrian prime minister before the Baath Party and Assad’s family took control. — 2:33 pm

sorry for being unclear.

btw, Syrian Nationalist Party, you forgot the “last democratically elected” part. do loyalists have a hard time acknowledging that concept? don’t feel bad, that threw me for a loop too. soon, syria will come full circle.

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April 26th, 2012, 4:28 pm

 

32. Antoine said:

JAD, I am sure you can see most of the people support the FSA :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6VEYdpFMMM&feature=related

MAWAL 95, please do an alaysis of above video.

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April 26th, 2012, 4:50 pm

 

33. Tara said:

SOD

Thank you. In this case, I would appreciate even a lie to tell me it is fake.

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April 26th, 2012, 5:00 pm

 

34. Khalid Tlass said:

Tara, have you really been psychologically disturbed by that video ? There have been worse cases.

Thats why this fight should go on. Huh ??? Revenge. We will fight them in a purely physically level.

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April 26th, 2012, 5:03 pm

 

35. omen said:

tara, afram says it’s a jordanian army training technique.

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=14202&cp=all#comment-308155

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April 26th, 2012, 5:10 pm

 

36. Aldendeshe said:

@OMEN, Sorry, still, I am not getting your point.

Well, this is like which came first, the chicken or egg. Premier Dwalibi has to form a Government and set up bylaws that will allow for free and fair election. Baathists and supporters will be, and must be barred from politics, held liable for damages and right abuse, theft of Syria assets and treasury. They will all be charged with various crimes under new Syrian Laws and be subject to court of law. Those escaped ones, are not really free, under International laws,they will be charged in absentia and Interpol will have to hands them over. Otherwise, a clandestine operation will be conducted to repatriate them and bring them to face justice. No crime will go unpunished, they can run, but in age of biometrics, they can not hide.

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April 26th, 2012, 5:11 pm

 

37. Aldendeshe said:

AAAHHH…Just saying it, “Premier Dawalibi”I feel relief. Ahhh, when will be the day. No more Baathist Sunni chair leg for the Assads, Zuaiin, Zoubbi, Proletariat, the bottomless bin.

Premier Dawalibi, lets do it, will show you the way.

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April 26th, 2012, 5:18 pm

 

38. omen said:

Aldendeshe, i don’t know anything about the man. i’m trying to find out who he is and how people perceive him. on paper, he’s too good to be true. supposedly he has support lined up to launch even a military initiative. his saudi ties made me suspicious at first. but if his ties are ones that have been cultivated from his father’s time, well, we shall see.

more from the article:

“We have support from FSA generals, fighters in Syria, tribal systems and moderate Islamic schools,” he said. “This government will be approved by those inside Syria.”

Several FSA officers – Air Force General Fayez Amro, Captain Ammar al-Wawi, a former intelligence officer, and Colonel Khaled Hammoud – all appeared in a video pledging allegiance to the group.

The group wants air strikes, a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors, a slightly tougher line than the SNC. Western countries have been wary of calling for intervention similar to the military action that helped oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Dawalibi said his “government” comprised about 35 “ministers” inside Syria and that five or six members outside the country provided and coordinated financing, weapons, and humanitarian aid.

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April 26th, 2012, 5:18 pm

 

39. Son of Damascus said:

An interesting excerpt from the article Shami linked above, about the “truths” from SyriaTruth:

“Dr. Jonathan Spyer is a senior research fellow at the GLORIA Center and spent time in February embedded with the Free Syrian Army (FSA) inside Syria. When asked about al-Haqiqa’s report his answer was clear, “File under regime cut-out, fake opposition, straight out of the Ba’athist playbook.… Of course there are Islamist fighters in the FSA and this should not be denied or underestimated but this particular info sounds very much like regime info-ops.”

For good measure, I also forwarded al-Haqiqa’s story to left-wing journalist Nir Rosen. Like Nayouf, Rosen is no fan of U.S. policy in the region. Yet unlike Nayouf, Rosen has traveled extensively inside Syria (especially in Homs) over the past year.

Rosen stated that al-Haqiqa’s story of imposition of jizya was completely fictitious, pointing out that even if the al-Faruq Brigade wanted to impose jizya, it is not in control of the areas named in the report, lacking sufficient organization to gain said control. Moreover, there is no evidence that the al-Faruq Brigade is led and dominated by Islamist militants wanting to impose jizya on Christians.

It is unfortunate that Nayouf and al-Haqiqa are continuing to disseminate false claims of mass persecution of Christians in Syria by the opposition, and putting such unsubstantiated stories in the mouths of “Christian sources” in Homs Governorate. The effect of this material portrays Christians as propagandists for the regime. This is something that will only inflame any anti-Christian sentiment that already exists and could turn claims of mass persecution into self-fulfilling prophecies.

Lacking arms or a defensible geographic hinterland to defend themselves, Christians are generally “sitting on the fence” and refraining from openly taking sides in the present conflict. It is not in their interests to be portrayed as partisans. Thus, Nayouf and al-Haqiqa are not helping Syrian Christians.

Let us hope they will desist from any further irresponsible dissemination of bogus reports and conspiracy theories.”

http://www.aymennjawad.org/11589/nizar-nayouf-al-haqiqa-syrian-christians

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April 26th, 2012, 5:41 pm

 

40. Alan said:

17. AMNESIA
whether you consider that there is political Takfirizm?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfiri

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April 26th, 2012, 5:50 pm

 

41. omen said:

35. Aldendeshe said:
Baathists and supporters will be, and must be barred from politics, held liable for damages and right abuse, theft of Syria assets and treasury. They will all be charged with various crimes under new Syrian Laws and be subject to court of law.

what do you think about this?
via snc draft proposal:

Members of Mr Al Assad’s state apparatus would be retrained if possible, Mr Aldrobi said. “Those considered criminals will get a fair court process.” He said an amnesty for regime supporters who distance themselves from Mr Al Assad before the regime falls was under discussion. In the end, “only a handful of people may go to court”, he said.

didn’t occur to me until now that declaring and widely publicizing offers of amnesty could help spur defections.

offers of amnesty would help minority sects feel less frightened, thus be more willing to let go of support for bashar regime.

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April 26th, 2012, 6:02 pm

 

42. Alan said:

Those rebels are ridiculous – destroying lives. They need to be stopped.
A true rebel cause wouldn’t use fear as a tool and destroy small business.

Revolution Racketeers: Industrial terrorism in Syria

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April 26th, 2012, 6:11 pm

 

43. Aldendeshe said:

“….offers of amnesty would help minority sects feel less frightened, thus be more willing to let go of support for bashar regime….”

That offer from Mr. Droubi been on the table for sometime, few months, to my knowledge no one took advantage of it. No Baathist is repentant, no remorse whatsoever after all of what transpire. Tlass left Syria with kid to preserve millions in cash hoarded from Syrian treasury and illicit insider deals.

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April 26th, 2012, 6:20 pm

 

44. Alan said:

NATO and XE try for Another Oppressive DeMockracy – Syria Christoph R. Hörstel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF64mlIsayE

http://www.4thmedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/image.jpg

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April 26th, 2012, 6:21 pm

 

45. Juergen said:

I was today at an panel discussion with Tariq Ramadan ( swiss professor and muslim scholar and yes before someone else will post it he is the grandson of Hassan Al Banna) and Ruprecht Polenz ( an member of the German Parliament and head of the foreign comitee). The topic was how islamic is the arab spring. Some thoughts of the panel member i found noteworthy:

Tariq Ramadan:

“I dont call it Arab spring, in all that time i did not see spring.
I dont see revolutions, yet there are rebellions and uprisings.”

” The question is not if Muslims or Islam can deal with democracy, the question is if the West can deal with an democratic Arabia”

“Secularism has not the same connotation as we know it here in Europe for Arabs. Secularism is for many Arabs the politics of dictators like Ben Ali, Hosni Mubarak and Bashar Alassad.”

“Salafism has no answers for the future, but when 80 million Dollar are spent for the cause of the Salafi in the egyptian election, any movement will get strong. Islamists are seen by most as being more authentic, more genuin, many have spent years in prison and therefore have more credibility than others”

” I dont like the term “islamist”, it does include any group or party from the AKP to AlQauida, and there are extraordinary differences”

“Dont enter in ME politics when you act against your core values, because at the end the West will make their deal with hardcore Islamists, as we see with KSA”

“Why do we see more women in islamist parties involved than in our secular parties in the west? I dont judge anything, but thats a fact”

Ruprecht Polenz:

“We have 5 aims concerbing the Arab countries: 1. Economy,2. to prevent migration to the EU, 3.Terrorism and security, 4.strategic safety of Israel,5. Modernism, rule of law, human rights. The first 4 aims we achieved with all the ousted dictators, and i say that clearly we have not pushed enough to get the 5th aim in order with them”

“The average age of Arab societies is about 25 years old, in Germany the average age is 43, that shows to me that more modern uprisings will happen and that the young who demonstrate and fight for an better life do so because most of their lives are still ahead”

Those who have not heard mucb about Tariq Ramadan here is the wikiarticle on him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan

here is a videointerview

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April 26th, 2012, 6:24 pm

 

46. Gregory Carlin said:

What the FSA militants are shouting on their YouTube videos is what they will do should they take power. An offer of an amnesty by groups murdering most if not nearly all of their prisoners is something of a Mişrātah bargain.

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April 26th, 2012, 6:36 pm

 

47. Ghufran said:

Three Syrian aljazeera news team members lost their jobs:
http://www.shamlife.com/?page=show_det&select_page=9&id=22574

Was Basel Rayya, a basketball player, a security threat too?

Who in Syria is immune today?
http://www.shamlife.com/?page=show_det&select_page=9&id=22587

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April 26th, 2012, 8:05 pm

 

48. Tara said:

Russia thinks its “importance” is appreciated because of its position on Syria.  Hurt ego to be healed at the expense of the Syrian people? 

‘Russian UNSC vote for sale?’

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russian-unsc-vote-for-sale.aspx?pageID=449&nID=19385&NewsCatID=436
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Russia seems to believe it is going through a proxy war with the West over Syria at no cost to itself. Russia thinks that its “importance” is appreciated because of this crisis and therefore has based all its geopolitical calculations on the premise of this “importance” becoming more appreciated. This strategy and psychology are clearly evident in the lines of the editor of journal Russia in Global Affairs:

“Moscow is not trying to preserve its Syrian contracts but to reaffirm its status in international affairs. By resisting powerful psychological and diplomatic pressure, Russia has shown that although it has lost ground in the Middle East (Syria is its last close partner in the region), it is still a power whose opinion cannot be disregarded. Russian diplomats have clearly said that it will not allow intervention to be legalized through the U.N. Security Council … Kofi Annan’s plan and the U.N. Security Council’s statement in its support were mostly brought about by Russia’s firm stance … But Russia’s possibilities are not unlimited; it can hardly achieve much more.”
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…Russia’s future in the Middle East fares no better than the al-Assad regime in which Russia had been investing.

Read more..

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April 26th, 2012, 8:38 pm

 

49. Ghufran said:

A piece of Syria’s modern history before Hafez Al-Assad captured the office of presidency:
http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=147183
Israel was busy getting stronger and richer while Baathists were busy conspiring against each other after declaring that Israel lost the 1967 war becuse Albaath styled in power !!

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April 26th, 2012, 8:47 pm

 

50. Tara said:

Omen@34

Thanks Omen.

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April 26th, 2012, 8:49 pm

 

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