From the Comment Section (26 April 2012)

From Foreign PolicyViolence continues in Hama

An explosion in the Masha at-Tayyar district in the city of Hama killed up to 70 people. The Syrian government and opposition activists have offered conflicting accounts of the blast. According to Syrian state media, 16 people were killed in an accidental explosion in a house that was used as a bomb factory by “armed terrorist groups.” However, activists have reported several houses have been destroyed by what they claim could have been a Scud missile attack, killing up to 13 children and 16 women. The BBC’s Jim Muir reported that the magnitude of devastation could not likely have been achieved by conventional shelling. The opposition Syrian National Council called for an emergency United Nations Security Council meeting “so that it can issue a resolution to protect civilians in Syria.” France has recommended stronger action by the United Nations, calling for a Chapter 7 mandate that would allow for the use of force if President Bashar al-Assad’s forces do not pull back according to Kofi Annan’s peace plan.

Members of the UN monitoring team in Syria, with opposition activists in Homs. Photograph: Handout/Reuters

Nour said:

The previous blog entry seems to be inciting against the Annan plan and hoping it would fail so that a subsequent phase of possible military intervention may take place. Moreover, the report on the electoral list is misleading and disingenuous. It links to an article listing the candidates of the Baath Party only, implying that those are the only candidates running in Lattakia, which is not true. Members of other parties as well as independents are running both in Lattakia and across the rest of the country. The Popular Front for Change and Liberation, for example, which includes the opposition SSNP and Qadri Jamil’s The Will of the People Party, has 45 candidates across Syria. Other new parties have also listed their candidates and the ballot boxes will determine who wins the majority of the seats in the People’s Assembly.

[Landis adds: thanks for this correction, Nour]

Ghufran said:

The next 6 months are unlikely to include a major shift on Syria unless the opposition scores a significant military defeat against the regime. This period will be used by both parties to strengthen their position on the ground. The lack of any serious political proposal that adresses the grievances and concerns of the sizable pro regime Syrian forces mean that the only option on the table is to fight and preserve as much as possible of the gains made in the last 2 months. If Syrians themselves are not willing to compromise nobody will do that job on their bahalf.

Observer said:

I have been in the ME for some time now. The regime is losing grip on significant part of the countryside including around Damascus. Only 15% of new conscripts showed up to be recruited this year. The number of defectors has reached 100 000.

Cham Press announces that the dollar is trading below 70 pounds in a so called sign of improvement therefore countering the official rate of 60.

Very little support is available to the FSA from the outside and this will await the US elections before any real policy to emerge

zoo said:

Rice: The “friends of Syria” have been ironically promoted to the “Friends of Democratic Syria” when the most influent members, Qatar and KSA are non democratic countries preaching democracy to others…

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Rami Khouri: “…For many tens of thousands who were prepared to demonstrate peacefully – albeit at the cost of their lives – this has become a disaster. Syrian friends of mine call it a “tragedy”. They blame the Gulf states for encouraging the armed uprising. “Our revolution was pure and clean and now it’s a war,” one of them said to me last week. I believe them”.

I utterly agree with Khouri and his friend. The irreversible mistake of resorting to arms will be fully revealed in the coming years, if not decades.

amnesia said:

In comments above I read that the secular opposition will join the Assad government, and that the opposition arming was a mistake. Please make some sense guys for a change. The soldiers who defected did so rightfully, and their willingness to risk their lives to create a challenge for Assad’s remaining forces is laudable.

DAWOUD said:

The Syria Revolution against Bashar’s, and his father’s before him,oppression began as completely peaceful. I has become militarized because of the regime and its allies (Hasan Nasrallah, Iran,…) began to use violence and murder innocent unarmed demonstrators. People have the right to defend their lives, property, dignity, and honor!.. The overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to the murderous Bashar and his shabiha. Free Syria, Free Palestine!

irritated said:

Dawood, What proof do you have that the “overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to Bashar?” If it was true how come nobody goes on strike when asked to? That’s the least the ‘overwhelming majority’ could do. … Most anti-Syrian government types keep repeating “It started peacefully’ trying to justify the issue that ‘it continued violently’ and that it is now made of death squads infiltrated by islamist extremists and criminals.

ZOO said:

This is what will happen in Syria whether Bashar stays or not?

“The terror network has taken advantage of the country’s political turmoil of the past year to capture several southern areas, and the Americans are eager to coordinate efforts with the Yemenis to push them back.

An al-Qaida settled and safe in the remote interior of southern Yemen would allow its militants to plan and execute more attacks on Western interests, taking advantage of proximity to strategic shipping lanes in the Red and Arabian seas through which much of the West’s energy needs to pass.
(…)

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551. jna said:

545. jad said: …

Thanks for filling in some of the information regarding SC moderation. Appreciated.

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May 2nd, 2012, 2:57 pm

 

552. SC Moderation Team said:

Dear commentators,

Please understand that no one is allowed to attack others on this forum. The ex Moderator kept these pages civil and open for all, and in the spirit of that I will trash any comment deemed to be a personal attack against WSS, or anyone else.

If you have any issues I ask you to please email me at SCModeration@gmail.com, so that we can resolve it privately.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

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May 2nd, 2012, 2:59 pm

 

553. Tara said:

JL should not explain anything to anyone. Those uncomfortable with how SC is running should disinvite themselves. Cheap shots taken by some to spread panic across SC should be labeled as is: “cheap shots”. Most of us use fake names and fake email accounts. The moderator has no access to who we really are other than our fake email and IP addresses. Those who want to close the site, please disinvite yourself. You will not be missed. The new moderator should, in my opinion, follow the rules and not even bother explaining him/herself. It is a judgement call and if people do not like it, they can quit. No farewell party needed.

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May 2nd, 2012, 3:09 pm

 

554. Aldendeshe said:

Stop all the B.S. about the moderation. If you need the means to equate this Syrian Revolution with Assads means and get ahead let me know, hide your pride and bring your check book. Otherwise, if you are way to ashamed of what you have done and your loss, can’t muster enough courage to show your face to me, that is “A OK too”, just send your Bank Draft, fill the appropriate sum and include a signed note like this:(Sorry, we were to naive and stupid, name signed)

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May 2nd, 2012, 3:14 pm

 

555. Tara said:

Syria economy faces ‘significant’ contraction: IMF
By Ali Khalil | AFP 

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-economy-faces-significant-contraction-imf-134708508.html

“We do expect contraction in GDP (Gross Domestic Product) this year,” the head of the IMF’s Middle East, North Africa, Gulf and Central Asia Department, Masood Ahmed, told AFP, adding the drop was expected to be “significant”.
The IMF is not providing figures on the Syrian economy due to lack of data amid the political uncertainty.
….
According to IMF data, the Syrian economy expanded by 3.4 percent in 2010 after growing 5.9 percent in 2009.
“Syria had a strong diversified economy,” Ahmed said, adding that an end to the conflict “would provide the basis for a programme of reconstruction, stabilisation and a resumption of growth.”
Agriculture contributes some 17 percent of Syria’s GDP, compared to over 24 percent from industry, including oil, and around 54 percent from services.

More..

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May 2nd, 2012, 3:18 pm

 

556. Tara said:

The army torched activists’ homes, Israeli-style? 

Syria army suffers deadliest day since ceasefire
Syria’s army reportedly suffered its deadliest day since the ceasefire when rebel fighters killed 20 troops, in the latest violation of the three-week truce the UN says both sides are flouting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9241244/Syria-army-suffers-deadliest-day-since-ceasefire.html

The rebels killed 15 soldiers – including two colonels – in a dawn ambush in the northern province of Aleppo, where two rebel fighters also died, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Clashes near Damascus killed six troops, while the army shelled and torched activists’ homes in eastern Deir Ezzor province and regime gunfire killed a civilian in southern Dera’a, cradle of the 14-month uprising.
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“Regarding the heavy weapons, yes, our military observers do see a number of APCs (armoured personnel carriers), for instance; they see a number of Howitzers and other military equipment in most places where they are,” he said.
Syria had told the monitors the armoured carriers had been disarmed, but this had not been verified…

More.. 

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May 2nd, 2012, 3:29 pm

 

557. Nour said:

I am saddened to report to you that Ismael Haidar, the son of SSNP president Ali Haidar, and his comrade, Fadi Atawneh, were assassinated on the Homs Mesyaf road.

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:11 pm

 

558. Ghufran said:

It is not that hard for any person with moderate IT knowledge to detect origin of emails by tracking IP addresses, the regime did it, many revolutionists did it, and I have no doubt that most of us do not want their location and any private info shared by a third party, it is not “too much to ask” if we demand that the moderator does not violate our rights and our trust, and I am not assuming that he did, I hope that JL agrees to respond to this question, I have no reason to believe that Joshua has any interest in allowing a biased and agenda-driven person to moderate this site, some of you may consider lowering the rhetoric a little bit.

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:13 pm

 

559. bronco said:

#556 Tara

No prayers for 22 young Syrian soldiers killed in an ambush?
You know, like the ones you have prayed on, these too have parents, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers. wife and children.

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:25 pm

 

560. Alan said:

next embargo! oil there to China we will not leave!
UN Security Council threatens Sudan & South Sudan with sanctions
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/407985.html

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:27 pm

 

561. jad said:

Documents.sy | المركز السوري للتوثيق

مسلحون مناهضون للحكومة يغتالون (اسماعيل علي حيدر) ابن رئيس الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي ورفيقه (فادي عطاونة) عند مفرق المحنايا طريق حمص- مصياف.

Gunmen assassinate Esmael Ali Haidar, the son of the Syrian National party, and his friend Fadi A’tawnah nearby Al-Mahnaya located on Homs – Masyaf road

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=351012294961533&set=a.265734213489342.65122.265726053490158&type=1&theater

الدكتور علي حيدر رئيس الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي في اتصال له على التلفزيون السوري بعد استشهاد نجله:

دماء اسماعيل وصديقه لن تكون أغلى من الدماء التي سقطت وستسقط لأجل سورية وأنا مستعد للتضحية بولديي الباقيين وكل عائلتي اذا كانت هذه التضحية هي الثمن لعودة اللحمة الوطنية الى سورية.

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:27 pm

 

562. Mina said:

Bye bye democracy! Just like in Egypt, after banning parties based on a religious or ethnic ground, they authorize them. One way to hell.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/40700/World/Region/Libya-drops-ban-on-religionbased-parties.aspx
Libya says the previous ban on religious political party functioned to test public reactions to the legislation
AFP , Wednesday 2 May 2012

Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council on Wednesday dropped a controversial ban against parties organised along religious, regional, tribal or ethnic lines. (…)

Members of the NTC judicial committee on Wednesday read out an amended version of its law governing the formation of political parties, making no mention of the ban.

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:33 pm

 

563. Alan said:

‘US bent on destruction of Middle East countries’

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:42 pm

 

564. Alan said:

Mass Mobilization: Israel brings out reserve border battalions

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May 2nd, 2012, 5:50 pm

 

565. Syria no Kandahar said:

Moderator Note[SNK I welcome Jad back as well, and look forward to him continuing to contribute here. However please refrain from name calling and labelling, this is a place for open respectful discourse, not a place to label an entire group of Syrians. A lot of blood has been spilled on both sides and this type of language will not solve anything. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.]

Jad welcome back
That is so sad,opposition criminals has completely lost it …They are becoming the enemies of Syria.They have proved over and over again that they only have one agenda : that is to kill and kill
And kill….why are they attacking SNP?why did they killed Sameer qentar in edlin?why did they killed the dentist in Aleppo yesterday ?why did they killed 15 soldiers in Aleppo today?Why did they killed 6 passengers in Saraqeb today?why
And why and why…All they know is killing and killing and killing ….lying and lying and lying…
They are pro-turkey,pro-qater,pro-KSA,pro-Aroor,pro-Israel,pro-France,pro-Libya,pro-Hariri,pro-Wahhabi …they have nothing in them PRO-SYRIA

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:00 pm

 

566. omen said:

alan, did you accuse somebody of being cia? or did i dream that?

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:04 pm

 

567. omen said:

bashar sent militants to iraq to kill americans. granted, we didn’t belong there, but that’s beside the point. if anybody knows terrorism, it’s the thugs ruling the regime.

no, not thugs. that’s too inadequate a word. the regime is made up of psychopaths. how can syrians pledge their loyalty to madmen?

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:12 pm

 

568. Aldendeshe said:

My condolences to Mr. Haidar, that is terrible news indeed, but I blame the BATTA for this and all crimes committed in Syria by all sides. 12 years and after the people of Syria said no more, we get 14 months of hell, IRHAL YA ZALAMI IRHAL. You have no future and neither Syria under your minority Baathist rule.

“…some of you may consider lowering the theoretic a little bit…”

I say no moderation at all is best. We voted for it anyway. The reason we did so, is we knew that once you allow for it, the abuse of this moderation power starts and you kill free speech right away.

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:14 pm

 

569. bronco said:

Mina #562

It is highly probable that Qatar made a strong pressure on Libya to keep the Moslem Brotherhood in the country politics as Egypt’s Moslem Brotherhood are loosing ground there.
Qatar now has Tunisia, Libya and Gaza under its control and its payroll to press for a MB rule while they seems to be loosing ground Egypt and Syria.

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:17 pm

 

570. Tara said:

Dear Bronco@559

Teach me…. Should I pray for terrorists?

I did not pray for OBL, Quaddafi, or Saddam when they died. They all had family members.

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:24 pm

 

571. Shami said:

My condoleances Nour,
Allah Yerhamon.

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:33 pm

 

572. Tara said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sami-moubayed/the-syrian-opposition-non_b_1446098.html
Sami Moubayed
The Syrian Opposition, Non-state Players, and the Peace Process
Posted: 05/ 2/2012 4:46 pm

There are two views floating in Syria today. Theory I says that the U.S. wants to break the Syrian-Iranian alliance through regime change in Damascus. They argue that if the regime collapses in Syria, it would result in a rapid decline for both Iran and Hezbollah. Theory II, however, claims that contrary to what is being said, the U.S. is un-interested in severing Syria’s alliance with parties, fearing the worst in the Middle East.

If the Syrian opposition does come to power and puts its words into action, that leaves Iran as the only player with considerable leverage over non-state players like the PKK, the Mehdi Army, the Badr Brigade, Hezbollah, and to a lesser extent, Islamic Jihad and Hamas who nowadays, are allied to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Let us take Hezbollah as an example. The turbaned leadership of Hezbollah realized, early into the Syrian uprising, that there was an entire street in Syria that it is clueless about; namely the boiling anti-regime demonstrators. Hezbollah was indeed taken aback by angry young Syrians tearing apart pictures of Hasan Nasrallah and burning the yellow flag of Hezbollah. Swiftly, it tried to build bridges with these groups, offering to mediate in the Syrian crisis but its calls fell on deaf ears, namely because of its staunch commitment to the Syrian regime, which meant that nobody in the opposition took them seriously as honest brokers. Nasrallah’s remarks only complicated matters, as he adhered to the conspiracy theory being marketed by the Syrian state-run media and refused to give the anti-regime street the slightest respect — or even the benefit of the doubt. The wider the gap between Hezbollah and Iran on one front, and the Syrian opposition on another, the more worrying this was to realists in Washington D.C.

The Syrian opposition today has to sit back and come up with answers to the following questions: What to do with the military, governmental, and security institutions if they come to power? How to manage the Syrian economy? How to handle Syria’s relationship with people like Muqtada al-Sadr and Hasan Nasrallah? More importantly, what to do with the Syrian-Israeli peace process, which is now on hold? This is something that is extremely important to both Israel and the U.S., and which is being completely overlooked in all rhetoric and strategy since March…

These are challenges that are yet to be addressed properly. If the opposition does have answers, then they have not yet been articulated properly to those who matter in Washington circles, which might explain why the U.S. is seemingly so reluctant to push for real change in Syria.

more..

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:49 pm

 

573. omen said:

550. Juergen For Abu Zaid the Quran was divine and transmitted from God through the angel Gabriel to Muhammad.

but fisk described him as “secular.”

also from the article:

Forty years ago, Holland writes, two German scholars were allowed by the Yemeni government to examine a cache of ancient Korans found in the ceiling of Sanaa’s oldest mosque, stuffed into hessian sacks, fragments of probably the oldest Korans in the world. One of the Germans concluded that the Koran – like the Bible – had evolved over time and was a “cocktail of texts”.

You can guess what happened next. Outraged Yemenis ran for cover, and the Koran fragments have remained unpublished, unseen, stashed away in secret ever since.

we’ve lost so much ancient knowledge already. what a shame.

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May 2nd, 2012, 6:54 pm

 

574. omen said:

558. Ghufran said: some of you may consider lowering the theoretic a little bit.

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are we allowed to vote? ghufran for moderator!

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May 2nd, 2012, 7:07 pm

 

575. Syria no kandahar said:

I don’t know what prayers will do for those who lost loved ones…the killing has to stop…Syrians have to sit…bullets and knifes and RBGs have to stop..
Libanese sat on one table after losing 200000 people for nothing…Iraqis sat on one table after losing hundred of thousands for nothing…Libyans
Lost hundred of thousands for nothing ..Algerians lost hundreds of thousands for nothing…yaminis
Lost tens of thousands to replace Saleh with Faleh..sodanes lost hundreds of thousands tow replace a crappy soudan with a crappier sudans..
Why are Syrians not zooming out and Seeing the big picture…why don’t all parties accept that they are all sinners and none of them is a saint..why
Don’t they all get out of the endless killing,counter killing and revenge mud….6000 plus 9000 equal
15000 Syrians spread between heaven and hell
…nothing can be done about that..let us not put the 23000000 remaining Syrians in a hell in the make called Syria.

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May 2nd, 2012, 7:16 pm

 

576. Tara said:

Oppression breeds radicalism.
This is a reminder of who we used to be..

http://www.arabist.net/blog/2012/4/30/once-we-kissed.html

Once We Kissed

It took me almost a year to collect this rare footage from Arab films between the 20′s and the 60′s. With the rise of Islamic Fundamentalism after the Arab Spring in 2011, extremists have been calling for a rupture with the past and censorship of our heritage. This is a reminder of who we used to be, and that one day we were capable of showing love rather than condemning it…

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May 2nd, 2012, 7:34 pm

 

577. omen said:

6:49 – tara,

tunis president marzouki echoes that sentiment:

Asked about the leader of the Lebanese resistance group Hezbollah, which has backed President Assad’s claims that he is fighting a foreign-backed uprising, Marzouki said he had lost friends in the Arab world with his stance.

“Nasrallah and people like him, you know, think that Syria is… because he’s, you know, against Israel they can forgive to this dictatorship everything, but here in Tunisia we don’t have this problem. We are not interested in the fight between Israel and Syria,” said.

“I really… I can’t understand the position of Nasrallah. I can say and tell you that Nasrallah was very, very popular after the… (war) in 2006 because of the battle against Israel, but now, you know, his popularity is completely finished, you know, here in Tunisia and in the whole Arab world.”

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some argue that is no proof that millions of syrians oppose bashar. the entire arab hates the regime and its allies.

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May 2nd, 2012, 7:59 pm

 

578. jna said:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47270150/#47270150

Reporter films both army and insurgents in Homs.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:06 pm

 

579. bronco said:

Tara

If you shed any tear for a Syrian army soldier they would be crocodile tear, so you might not cry.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:07 pm

 

580. Tara said:

Omen

And I personally echo this sentiment. I for one really really loved Nasrallah. I thought I saw, through the turban and the fuzzy beard, a fairy tale hero. And oh boy, was I fatally wrong! I see him now for what he really is: A criminal.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:08 pm

 

581. irritated said:

Omen

Now Moncef Marzouki represents “milions of arabs who hate the regime and its allies”. Pathetic.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:10 pm

 

582. Tara said:

Bronco

I don’t have crocodile tears in me. I do not pretend emotions…I feel them.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:13 pm

 

583. jna said:

578. Friend in America said:
We have received word that Nour died in Damascus, last Sunday or Monday

Don’t tnink it can be. Nour posted today. Unless there are two Nour. http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=14488&cp=12#comment-308902

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:13 pm

 

584. William Scott Scherk said:

It is a trifle to pull the mask off me, as I am a known person. I thank Alex for ending the charade.

What I learned from acting as moderator was a greater respect for Joshua Landis and the spirit of his inquiries into Syria. Only through respect can Syrians at home and abroad hope to get through this crisis.

Hatred, group dynamics, discriminatory language, wild speculation and charges as to personal motives, all these things degrade discussion.

I am accountable not only for my words under my name as WSS, but also as the former Mod.

Some masks, like mine, can be easily pulled off. Others, not so easily. With the provocative post to twitter that denied Alex was a malevolent power at Syria Comment – acting as moderator in the here and now, I defended Alex against the charge he was pulling strings behind the scenes. My “Sweet FA” as an acknowledgement of his hands-off approach to Syria Comment. I pointed out privately in the DM referred to (NuffSilence) that it was unfair to ascribe actions to a person (Alex) without investigating first!

So, although we might disagree with Alex, I thank him for pulling the mask off. I stand by my defences of Joshua Landis (against bias). I stand by all my statements as moderator during my tenure. I stand by Camille Alex Otrakji as a fair-dealer with folks both upfront and backstage.

Any other lessons are apparent. Thanks to the newest moderator who also volunteered for the chore. May he and those to come help this place walk the fine line between freedom and chaos.

I salute those Syrians inside and out who honestly (and fairly) address the issues that concern them. I loathe nasty personal asides and snide allusions. I respect those who show self-respect enough to not deal with their opponents as enemies, terrorists or agents of the devil.

I apologize to those who feel deceived or that an imposture was accomplished. For those who fear outing by Alex or admins, I can well afford outing, having been a commentator for some years. Others with family at risk in Syria cannot afford my Canadian luxuries of free speech and freedom of association.

As for those who trade in idle slurs about spies, my shoe.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:34 pm

 

585. Tara said:

Avaaz report: Annan plan ineffective.

Syrian opposition group: ‘Annan plan has been ineffective’
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 8:22 PM EDT, Wed May 2, 2012

“Having spoken to a range of residents and activists across Syria, Avaaz is able to assert with confidence that the Annan plan has been ineffective, with residents continuing to flee the violence being committed by both sides,” the report concluded.

In Homs, “Armed opposition groups remain inside the city while the regime’s forces retain a formidable presence,” Avaaz said.
Also in Homs, the plan’s call for a cease-fire is not being observed, the group said.
“Snipers are still stationed across the city’s rooftops, shooting at anything within range,” the report said, citing residents. “One man was shot dead today in Khalidiya.” It also reported that Abdelbasset Saroot, the Olympic goalkeeper for Syria’s national soccer team, was also injured by sniper fire.
 
The report said government forces were continuing to clash with Free Syrian Army opposition forces. An activist blamed the army for “shooting at anything” in its efforts to enter cities, and state media was blaming “terrorists” for targeting government forces.
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The plan’s call for the release of political prisoners “has not even seen the light of day,” the report said, with activists in Homs saying “no political prisoners have been released.”
Humanitarian aid is not getting into the city, and demonstrators must leave Homs to avoid being shot, it said.

Though Syrian authorities say they have permitted 400 journalists to enter Syria, “these journalists enjoy little to no freedom of movement, with their movements calculated in advance by the Syrian security forces under the pretext of protecting them,” the report said.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner expressed no surprise. “So far, the Syrian regime — Assad regime — has taken, really, almost no steps toward fulfilling the core commitments of the Annan proposal,” he said.
Though the United States seeks an end to violence by both sides, “the vast proportion of violence has been the Syrian government inflicting it on its own citizens,” he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/02/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:37 pm

 

586. omen said:

today’s story is about how the u.s. state department in china pressured a vulnerable blind lawyer to exit the protective asylum of the embassy and to leave the compound. we threw a poor helpless man out to the wolves.

i’ve argued before how the u.s. is much too compliant to china’s wishes. this is the only “principle” the u.s. stands up for: $ .
washington isn’t going to risk economic sanction and loss of profit over one scruffy dissident.
what else does china want? no intervention in syria.

despite the mythology about the u.s. acting to protect human rights, i’ve yet to see it live up to the rhetoric of the propaganda. we wouldn’t have acted in libya at all if it weren’t for france being proactive and if libya didn’t have oil.

bashar could kill a million syrians and washington wouldn’t blink an eye. the opposition needs to make entreaties elsewhere in seeking to get help.

obama didn’t do anything when iran slaughtered dissidents during their uprising in ‘o9. he isn’t going to do anything now. he’s more interested in appeasing iran in order to feather his legacy by crafting a historic deal with iran over the weapons issue.

another indication of appeasement: MEK used to be supported as a liberation group. we’ve even trained members in the utah desert. now it is being listed as a terror group and prominent people who once supported it are now being threatened with prosecution.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:37 pm

 

587. Tara said:

Dear new moderator

Can you please honor the pact we have had with the previous moderator. Bronco and I often have a genuine and direct exchange and were given a “blue light” to moderate ourselves. I always initiate a personalized discussion with Bronco and I appreciate the exchange. I thank you for your handwork but please allow it. It has always been civil and honest.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:45 pm

 

588. Aldendeshe said:

LOL, you mean to tell me that I am the only one who knew that WSS is the SC-MOD? That was so obvious. By the way, When will you remove SNP from moderation? We are going quite now for sometimes, our minds are made up and thoughts are hard wired. It is obvious Syrians can not live with the one family / Baathist minority rule anymore. We need to move forward.

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May 2nd, 2012, 8:54 pm

 

589. Observer said:

More areas of the country are no longer under the control of the regime.

The use of heavy weapons is due to the inability of the pro regime units to enter into sections of a town or village.

Fredo issued an amnesty to those who failed to report to be conscripted. This is an indication that he does not have enough troops to repress all of the areas that are in revolt.

Both rural and urban areas are in revolt and mass exodus into urban areas will destabilize the regime further.

Now about the regional players:

HA has been damaged beyond repair in the eyes of many Syrians.

HA chief appears to have become another of the Arab rulers love for the Chair and Power as he uses the “resistance” ( empty of any action since 2006 ) to remain in power.

Iran will find accommodation with Europe and the US over its nuclear program. The combination of sanctions and military presence will bring some results. The name of the game is face saving for everyone.

Russia is like Qatar in a sense both like the fables de la Fontaine are frogs drinking water to try to become bulls and both have been deflated. Russia cannot influence Syria and is now going to lose big time for the only way that it can force the regime hardliners to stop the violence is through a 180 degree turnaround at the SC.

Syria does not even make it to the top 7 or 8 news items on RT arabic any longer.

The conflict has moved into an insurgency without anyone’s ability least of which the stupid regime to control it.

Selling gold is one small measure to support the currency but this is not going to be able to solve anything.

Meanwhile the debate on this blog is sterile as it goes back and forth between pro regime and anti regime commentators all of whom are living comfortably in the West and pontificating in a “cafe-like meeting”.

The people on the ground are the real opposition neither Ghalioun nor Aita and the only credible people are Kilo and Maleh the rest are a bunch of stooges.

Now let me remind all the “conspiracy minded” people that the US DOES NOT CARE ONE BIT WHAT HAPPENS TO SYRIA IN SYRIA. As a matter of fact I believe that the average American has no love lost for Syria regime and people as both helped the insurgency in Iraq and the regime being the arsonist par excellence is now having his own house burn down on his head due to his stupid actions.

Syria is finished and we will see a 10 year low level civil war/insurgency that will leave the country looking 10 times worse than when Lebanon emerged from its civil war which to this day has left that country a shadow of its former self.

Dr. Landis career as a Syria expert will I am sorry to say will take a turn to the very dull indeed.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:14 pm

 

590. omen said:

sure, ridiculous accusations against posters being cia is an idle slur, but is it really scrub worthy?

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:18 pm

 

591. Ghufran said:

The post at 558 was supposed to read” lower the rhetoric ” not theoretic,too much technology when an auto speller becomes an auto annoyer.

I fixed the spelling error Ghufran, I hope you don’t mind – Moderator

Slowly but steadily armed rebels and Assasins are taking over the struggle against the regime,people like kilo are almost irrelevant,thanks to the language of guns. The problem is this: what do those gunmen want beside killing and looting for revenge,pleasure or profit? Michael Kilo is right,we used to have one problem,the regime,and now we have two,it will get to the point where old enemies may have to unite against a new enemy ,the danger of losing the state is today bigger than the danger of keeping the regime,at this rate,the regime will stay for the foreseeable future,you will remember Kilo’s words when it is too late,the time when alliances and positions change is coming..fast.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:18 pm

 

592. omen said:

oops – make that the nevada desert, not utah.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:22 pm

 

593. omen said:

8:54 – When will you remove SNP from moderation?

what?

FREE SNP! FREE SNP!

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:34 pm

 

594. Ghufran said:

Observer just wrote the best post I read on SC in weeks but I still think expats and cafe politicians can help:
1.send money to the needy in Syria
2. Do not hate your Syrian friend because he has a different opinion from you
3. Do not force your kids to be as opinionated as you are
4.help Syrians who want to emigrate and who have something to offer
5. Think of this crisis as a test that we have to pass,even if it take years
6. Understand that we do not choose or change our religion but we can change ourselves
That is not a lecture,it is a friendly advice from an older Syrian who has no dog in this fight except wanting to see his mother land and its people live in peace and dignity.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:35 pm

 

595. Aldendeshe said:

@OBSERVER

Pretty good all and all no argument with what you stated except when you said this:

“…..Syria is finished and we will see a 10 year low level civil war/insurgency that will leave the country looking 10 times worse than when Lebanon emerged from its civil war which to this day has left that country a shadow of its former self….”

All Middle Eastern countries are finished. There not available resources with neither the regime, nor the oppositions, to last that many years. As we go forward, the likelihood of the conflict and terrorism spreading out to other areas is assured. Regional Dynamics will force urgent resolution in the end, say about 2-2.5 years max. But it will be too late to contain, it’s ARMAGEDON TIME.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:38 pm

 

596. Ghufran said:

شوفو الوساخه و قلة الاصل

[Mod translation: Look at this grimy and lacking of integrity reporting]

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/05/02/211636.html
As if those soldiers and officers were rats and not humans with families and children

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:43 pm

 

597. bronco said:

#585 Tara

Syrian opposition group: ‘Annan plan has been ineffective’

That’s the proof it has been effective.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:54 pm

 

598. Friend in America said:

[Moderator Note I sent an email to the Nour that comments here, they are in fact "Alive, and well" and the same Nour that has always commented here. I thank Friend in America for showing concern for our fellow commentators.

ScModerator]

We have received word that Nour died in Damascus, last Sunday or Monday. He was struck in the leg by a bullet and died from loss of blood.
The description of Nour that we heard sounds like this Nour is our Nour who participated on Syria Comment for several years and is the most outspoken advocate on this site for peaceful opposition. If so, we all over the world have lost a blog friend and Syria has lost a young man capable of being a future leader for justice, fairness and peace for all Syrian citizens. How very sad.

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May 2nd, 2012, 9:56 pm

 

599. irritated said:

#Observer

“Syria is finished and we will see a 10 year low level civil war/insurgency that will leave the country looking 10 times worse than when Lebanon emerged from its civil war which to this day has left that country a shadow of its former self.”

You have been hammering us that Syria would be split geographically along religious sects and ethnical groups lines. As this did not happen you are now coming with another gloomy prediction that will not occur.
Please continue with your gloom… it is refreshing.

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May 2nd, 2012, 10:01 pm

 

600. bronco said:

@596. Ghufran said:

شوفو الوساخه و قلة الاصل
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/05/02/211636.html
As if those soldiers and officers were rats and not humans with families and children

Unfortunately some SC commenters share that view.

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May 2nd, 2012, 10:05 pm

 

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