From the Comment Section (26 April 2012)

From Foreign PolicyViolence continues in Hama

An explosion in the Masha at-Tayyar district in the city of Hama killed up to 70 people. The Syrian government and opposition activists have offered conflicting accounts of the blast. According to Syrian state media, 16 people were killed in an accidental explosion in a house that was used as a bomb factory by “armed terrorist groups.” However, activists have reported several houses have been destroyed by what they claim could have been a Scud missile attack, killing up to 13 children and 16 women. The BBC’s Jim Muir reported that the magnitude of devastation could not likely have been achieved by conventional shelling. The opposition Syrian National Council called for an emergency United Nations Security Council meeting “so that it can issue a resolution to protect civilians in Syria.” France has recommended stronger action by the United Nations, calling for a Chapter 7 mandate that would allow for the use of force if President Bashar al-Assad’s forces do not pull back according to Kofi Annan’s peace plan.

Members of the UN monitoring team in Syria, with opposition activists in Homs. Photograph: Handout/Reuters

Nour said:

The previous blog entry seems to be inciting against the Annan plan and hoping it would fail so that a subsequent phase of possible military intervention may take place. Moreover, the report on the electoral list is misleading and disingenuous. It links to an article listing the candidates of the Baath Party only, implying that those are the only candidates running in Lattakia, which is not true. Members of other parties as well as independents are running both in Lattakia and across the rest of the country. The Popular Front for Change and Liberation, for example, which includes the opposition SSNP and Qadri Jamil’s The Will of the People Party, has 45 candidates across Syria. Other new parties have also listed their candidates and the ballot boxes will determine who wins the majority of the seats in the People’s Assembly.

[Landis adds: thanks for this correction, Nour]

Ghufran said:

The next 6 months are unlikely to include a major shift on Syria unless the opposition scores a significant military defeat against the regime. This period will be used by both parties to strengthen their position on the ground. The lack of any serious political proposal that adresses the grievances and concerns of the sizable pro regime Syrian forces mean that the only option on the table is to fight and preserve as much as possible of the gains made in the last 2 months. If Syrians themselves are not willing to compromise nobody will do that job on their bahalf.

Observer said:

I have been in the ME for some time now. The regime is losing grip on significant part of the countryside including around Damascus. Only 15% of new conscripts showed up to be recruited this year. The number of defectors has reached 100 000.

Cham Press announces that the dollar is trading below 70 pounds in a so called sign of improvement therefore countering the official rate of 60.

Very little support is available to the FSA from the outside and this will await the US elections before any real policy to emerge

zoo said:

Rice: The “friends of Syria” have been ironically promoted to the “Friends of Democratic Syria” when the most influent members, Qatar and KSA are non democratic countries preaching democracy to others…

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Rami Khouri: “…For many tens of thousands who were prepared to demonstrate peacefully – albeit at the cost of their lives – this has become a disaster. Syrian friends of mine call it a “tragedy”. They blame the Gulf states for encouraging the armed uprising. “Our revolution was pure and clean and now it’s a war,” one of them said to me last week. I believe them”.

I utterly agree with Khouri and his friend. The irreversible mistake of resorting to arms will be fully revealed in the coming years, if not decades.

amnesia said:

In comments above I read that the secular opposition will join the Assad government, and that the opposition arming was a mistake. Please make some sense guys for a change. The soldiers who defected did so rightfully, and their willingness to risk their lives to create a challenge for Assad’s remaining forces is laudable.

DAWOUD said:

The Syria Revolution against Bashar’s, and his father’s before him,oppression began as completely peaceful. I has become militarized because of the regime and its allies (Hasan Nasrallah, Iran,…) began to use violence and murder innocent unarmed demonstrators. People have the right to defend their lives, property, dignity, and honor!.. The overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to the murderous Bashar and his shabiha. Free Syria, Free Palestine!

irritated said:

Dawood, What proof do you have that the “overwhelming majority of Syrians are opposed to Bashar?” If it was true how come nobody goes on strike when asked to? That’s the least the ‘overwhelming majority’ could do. … Most anti-Syrian government types keep repeating “It started peacefully’ trying to justify the issue that ‘it continued violently’ and that it is now made of death squads infiltrated by islamist extremists and criminals.

ZOO said:

This is what will happen in Syria whether Bashar stays or not?

“The terror network has taken advantage of the country’s political turmoil of the past year to capture several southern areas, and the Americans are eager to coordinate efforts with the Yemenis to push them back.

An al-Qaida settled and safe in the remote interior of southern Yemen would allow its militants to plan and execute more attacks on Western interests, taking advantage of proximity to strategic shipping lanes in the Red and Arabian seas through which much of the West’s energy needs to pass.
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201. bronco said:

#193 Mina

An anxiety pill controversy is sufficient to close KSA embassies in Egypt?
I think the problem runs deeper.

KSA is probably very displeased that its Salafist candidates for the Egyptian president election have been eliminated while Qatar’s Moslem brotherhood candidates are still running for election.

Are we seeing a KSA vs Qatar-Turkey showdown in Egypt?

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April 28th, 2012, 12:19 pm

 

202. Norman said:

Bronco,

I am not as optimistic as you are, the next time Annan will blame the Syrian government as has done so far for breaking his plan.

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April 28th, 2012, 12:25 pm

 

203. zoo said:

Ruling party Turkish women: No more secularism, we want more religion, family values and the freedom of wearing hejab

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/akp-women-urge-no-ban-on-hijab-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=19475&NewsCatID=338

Women of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) have urged for the new constitution to allow for the freedom to wear headscarves in all areas of the public realm as part of proposals they submitted to Parliament Speaker Cemil Çiçek.

The proposal, titled “The new civil constitution from the viewpoint of women,” also said that the new charter should place greater importance on family and religion as well as democracy, and stop imposing secularism.
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April 28th, 2012, 12:30 pm

 

204. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

194. omen said:

mina, syria regime and the ksa are pretty similar. no wonder regime members and saudi royals have close ties.

p.s. no, i take that back. actually bashar is worse. as far as i know, the saudis never shelled one of their own cities because they were offended by graffiti.
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No, not for graffiti against the king (no one dare that anyway), but try to spray paint a cross, a christian symbol or Jesus Love you and you will see the city eradicated quickly.

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April 28th, 2012, 12:35 pm

 

205. Mina said:

Omen #199, you are a day-dreamer if you think that KSA is going to compensate someone who had dared insult them! That’s probably why you can’t except them to understand ‘politics’.

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April 28th, 2012, 12:36 pm

 

206. Aldendeshe said:

203. zoo said:

Ruling party Turkish women: No more secularism, we want more religion, family values and the freedom of wearing hejab

Using Islam as weapon of mass destruction to a nation. Turkey bid for supper power is being undermined by the “Secret Government”

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April 28th, 2012, 12:39 pm

 

207. zoo said:

Annan first hand report at the closed door meting of the UN Security council: There is still a chance of success.

Annan to Security Council: Diplomacy may suck, but it’s a lot better than war
Posted By Colum Lynch Tuesday, April 24, 2012 – 6:46 PM

http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/04/24/kofi_annan_to_the_un_security_council_diplomacy_may_suck_but_its_a_lot_better_than_

Special Envoy Kofi Annan told the U.N. Security Council today in a closed-door session that an expanding U.N. monitoring mission still stands a chance of calming the violence in Syria, despite a spike in killings on Monday, including a report of a government attack on civilians in the town of Hama after U.N. observers left the town.

Annan, a former U.N. secretary general who is serving as the joint U.N.-Arab League envoy for Syria, delivered a carefully worded briefing to the council that both raised concern about the government’s conduct in recent weeks but urged the council to maintain support for his fragile diplomatic bid.

“Our patience has been tested severely-close to its limits,” he said. “But we have also seen signs that there is the possibility for the parties to implement a cessation of violence, which can lead to a political process and peaceful way out of the crisis.”

Annan said he intends to press ahead with his efforts to start political talks between the government and the fragmented political, civil and military opposition groups. He would approach the Syrian government at the “appropriate time,” he said, and request that President Bashar al-Assad appoint a representative to the talks. At the same time, he said his team is pressing the opposition to develop a “more inclusive and representative” approach to political talks.

Annan said that while it is difficult for a handful of U.N. monitors to “assess the level of violence” throughout Syria, the scale of killing had “as a whole” decreased since the U.N.-brokered cease-fire took effect on April 12. However, the violence spiked yesterday, he admitted, citing an upsurge of killing in Hama, where government forces reportedly attacked civilians in a suburb of the town following a visit by U.N. monitors.

“I am concerned by media reports that, before and after [U.N.] observer visits, government troops have been active in civilian areas and launched attacks,” he said. “I am particularly alarmed by reports that government troops entered Hama yesterday after observers departed, firing automatic weapons and killing a significant number of people.”

The move comes as the U.N. Security Council is straining to maintain its unity despite widely divergent approaches by the council’s key powers. The United States — and its European and Arab allies — have begun clamoring for a tougher approach to Syria, arguing that a resort to sanctions, and possibly stepped-up support for the armed opposition, is required to prod the government into meeting its obligations. Russia and China, meanwhile, have preferred an exclusively diplomatic strategy backed, reinforced by diplomatic pressure on both sides to pursue political talks.

Annan, meanwhile, held out the hope that a beefed up U.N. monitoring mission, which may expand to a force of some 300 unarmed observers in the coming weeks, could restore calm, citing the reduction of violence in the town of Homs following the arrival of U.N. observers. “There is a chance to expand and consolidate the cessation of violence,” he said. “Observers not only see what is going on, but their presence has the potential to change the political dynamics.”

Annan concluded that Syria’s compliance with its commitments under his peace plan — known as the six-point plan — has been “partial” at best, noting that the “gestures” the government has taken so far “do not yet amount to the full and clear signal” of its commitment to embrace political reform. But he also hinted that any political settlement he is likely to deliver will involve moral compromises.

“Under the circumstances, the peace we are trying to build could never be perfect — and we have all been shocked by events in Syria,” he said. “But if we succeed, the prospects are far better than any promised through war.”

Annan said that he had received written assurances on Saturday from Syrian Foreign Minister Wallid Moallem that “the withdrawal of massed troops and heavy weapons from in and around population centers is now complete and military operations have ceased.” Annan said he was “encouraged” by Moallem’s pledge but that “it should be understood that the only promises that count are the promises that are kept.”

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April 28th, 2012, 12:44 pm

 

208. zoo said:

Main opposition in Turkey disagrees with the Davutogly’s arrogant foreign policy with Syria
Turkey’s Mideast role ‘a dangerous fantasy’

ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News

[ blue diamond http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-mideast-role-a-dangerous-fantasy.aspx?pageID=238&nID=19463&NewsCatID=338 ]

Main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy chair Faruk Loğoğlu has slammed Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu for saying Turkey has a pioneering role in the new Middle East, calling this view a “dangerous fantasy.”

“I am only smiling at this. I interpret this as a fantasy. I wouldn’t have a word to say if it was a safe fantasy, but it is a dangerous fantasy. The Turkish foreign minister, who cannot manage the foreign policy of Turkey, saying that ‘we will be pioneering the change in the Middle East’ is disrespectful to the Arab nations,” Loğoğlu told journalists on April 27. The CHP is organizing an international conference called

“Changing Seasons: The Arab People’s March for Democracy and Freedom” in Istanbul on April 28 and 29.
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Loğoğlu also slammed the government for hosting members of the opposition Free Syrian Army in Turkey, saying it is against international law and regulations. “Turkey has taken a one-sided approach to the Syrian case from day one. The Turkish government has excluded the regime directly and positioned itself on the side of not only the political figures of the opposition, but also military figures of the opposition. Facilitating the military arm of the opposition which aims to destroy the regime of a country is against international law and regulations,” Loğoğlu said. The ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) is dragging Turkey into war, Loğoğlu said. “It should not be Turkey who is triggering the conflicts in Syria by taking sides. The attitude of the [ruling AKP] government is wrong. It is also contrary to good, neighborly relations,” Loğoğlu added.
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April 28th, 2012, 12:52 pm

 

209. Alan said:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/apr2012/russ-a28.shtml
Russia prepares for a US-Israeli military strike against Iran

By Clara Weiss
28 April 2012

Russia has undertaken intensive preparations during the past few months for a possible military strike by Israel and the United States on Iran. According to recent reports, the Russian General Staff expects a war against Iran this summer, with enormous repercussions for not only the Middle East but also the Caucasus.

Russian troops in the Caucasus have been technically upgraded, and a missile division situated on the Caspian Sea has been placed in readiness. The missile cruisers of the Caspian flotilla are now anchored off the coast of Dagestan. The only Russian military base in the South Caucasus, located in Armenia, is also on alert for military intervention. Last autumn, Russia sent its aircraft carrier Kuznetsov to the Syrian port Tartous following the escalation of the conflict in Syria. Experts believe that Russia would support Tehran in the event of war, at least on a military-technical level.

In a commentary in April, General Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Science, wrote that “a war against Iran would be a war against Russia” and he called for a “political-diplomatic alliance” with China and India. Operations were being undertaken throughout the Middle East in order to destabilise the region and proceed against China, Russia and Europe. The war against Iran, Ivashov wrote, would “end up at our borders, destabilise the situation in the North Caucasus and weaken our position in the Caspian region.”…….

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April 28th, 2012, 1:00 pm

 

210. Juergen said:

Interview with Bahrain King Khalifa Prime minister Prince Chalifa Bin Salman Al Chalifa:

sounds familiar?

DER SPIEGEL: But the protests continue in your country. The opposition says that the reforms of the government were not sufficient and you are not really interested in a dialogue.

Khalifa: We’re talking about people we would call in the modern world as a terrorist group. This movement is supported by Iran and Hezbollah. We are experiencing exactly the same as the Americans with terrorism.

http://translate.google.at/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2F0%2C1518%2C829542%2C00.html

interesting comment by Mohammed Al Attar

“As I write here in this article, I think of all those of my acquaintances, who were arrested during the protests. I see a beautiful rainbow spectrum, beautifully colored like Syria itself: men and women, Muslims and Christians, Alawites and Kurds, musicians, doctors, journalists and the unemployed. They, and all the martyrs, make up the soul of the revolution, a revolution that does not need to worry about those who would be supportive of you, but are left confused, given all the political complications, conferences and statements of this or that page.”

http://translate.google.at/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.taz.de%2FDebatte-Syrien%2F%2192334%2F

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April 28th, 2012, 1:16 pm

 

211. Tara said:

Bronco

Tahrir Square demonstrations are not happening because the regime still shooting at people.  The regime has not changed it’s behavior one bit after formally agreeing to Annan’s plan. As usual Bushbus talk the talk but does not walk the walk.  The regime is under heavy criticism from Ban and the world press for not abiding by the plan and is playing with fire.

Additionally, Midan explosion is likely orchestrated and carried out by the regime to scare people from demonstrating.  The regime is the only beneficiary.  If it was masterminded by the opposition, why then not bombing Qurdaha or Damascus proper close to where the blue eyed thug lives.  Have you not asked yourself that question? 

Agreements need to be respected.  If you do not live up to your end of the agreement, I won’t either.
     

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April 28th, 2012, 1:42 pm

 

212. Juergen said:

Sorry the interview is with the Prime minister Prince Chalifa Bin Salman Al Chalifa not with the King himself.

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April 28th, 2012, 1:42 pm

 

213. omen said:

mina, you were talking about the saudis. i shifted it over to syria.

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April 28th, 2012, 1:51 pm

 

214. Uzair8 said:

176. Mina said:

‘Could you tell me, in your view, why is it for the Libyans, Egyptians and Tunisians, a priority to help the syrian insurrection rather that to work on their constitution, reforms and economy?’

They, having experienced a similarly desperate situation, understand what the Syrian people are going through and the necessity of helping them in whatever way they can?

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185. ann said:

‘700 Syrian militants lay down arms – Apr 28, 2012 13:59 Moscow Time’

So they are militants and not terrorists? Maybe they are militants if they surrender?

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April 28th, 2012, 1:56 pm

 

215. omen said:

Juergen, did you see that disgusting cartoon demonizing shia children that bahrain regime loyalists were putting out?

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April 28th, 2012, 2:04 pm

 

216. Juergen said:

Omen

No i have not seen it yet, where can i find it?

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April 28th, 2012, 2:05 pm

 

217. Tara said:

So the link showing shabeeha burying an activist alive was not fake after all?  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9229798/Syrian-rebels-call-for-emergency-UN-meeting-after-video-showing-activist-being-buried-alive.html
[ blue diamond By Ruth Sherlock, Beirut7:21PM BST 26 Apr 2012]

Syrian rebels call for emergency UN meeting after video showing activist being ‘buried alive’

The video, said to have been filmed in the Syrian border town of Qusayr, shows a man buried to his neck in the ground. He wails desperate prayers as two men in military uniforms fill in the small ditch around his head with shovels. Dry mud and rocks smash against his face and head until he is completely covered, when the video cuts out.

The footage cannot be verified, especially as it seems to have been posted by a member of the regime forces, most likely one of the Shabiha, the informal militia often tasked with the “dirty work” on the streets to allow deniability. It may have been intended to frighten the opposition.

The dialogue on the video suggests the man has been caught sending footage of the uprising to Arab satellite television channels such as Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya. He cries out, “there is no god but Allah”, a traditional prayer of those about to die, but is told to say “there is no god but Bashar” instead.

The call by the Syrian National Council for an emergency statement by the UN came after another apparently major breach of the ceasefire, when a huge explosion destroyed part of a working class civilian district of Hama, Mash at-Tayyaron, on Wednesday.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:17 pm

 
 

219. Uzair8 said:

189. omen said:

“I don’t even call it violence when it’s in self defense; I call it intelligence”.

A great quote from Malcolm X. Thanks.

Another good quote I read yesterday on ‘the Walls':

‘Violence is the hallmark of the regime with or without the FSA.’

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April 28th, 2012, 2:24 pm

 

220. zoo said:

Major military defection reported in Syria (30)
Date : 4/28/2012

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2236939&language=en

KUWAIT, April 28 (KUNA) — The Syrian Information Center reported on Saturday “major defections” from units of the Syrian Army headquarters stationed close to the Republican Palace in the northern city of Latakia.

Sima Malaki, spokesperson of the center, which represents the Syrian opposition, said in a statement that 30 personnel broke off the Defense Battalion, stationed near the palace.

In Barzeh, on outskirts of Damascus, snipers opened fire at complex housing offices for government utility services and Tichrin Hospital. In Al-Maadamiah, also in suburbs of the capital, three huge blasts echoed across the region, and other explosions rumbled in Daraya, also located close to the capital, according to the opposition Coordination Committees.

It reported intensive gunfire in Al-Karameh district in the city of Hama, where residents staged night-time demonstrations calling for ouster of the regime of Bashar Al-Assad .

In northern city of Aleppo, government troops attacked demonstrators with gunfire and tear gas. In Al-Boukamal, Deir Al-Zor, an identical incident was reported.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:27 pm

 

221. Halabi said:

The execution of Walid Al Bustani, the reported Lebanese terrorist, by the FSA is troubling for we-love-you crowd who are livid because he didn’t receive a fair trial, one where Assad’s soldiers stomp on his skull and say “ya 3ar3our, here is the the freedom that you want.”

This treatment is also known as justice in Assad’s Syria. It’s not perfect, but it may or may not be better than the Taliban’s form of repression, and as long as Syria trumps Afghanistan than all is well. I have a slightly higher bar for my country.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:39 pm

 

222. Tara said:

The video posted by Omen is clearly Bahraini regime’s creation. I am not with minority ruling over majority and I support Bahraini Shiaa getting their equal rights. Yet, the video begs a question. Does reenacting the violent death of Hussain and other Shiaa figures a way to instill hate against the Sunnis since childhood, or is it just a celebration of the death. Christians celebrate and reenact the death of Jesus out of their belief that Jesus is their savior and that his sacrifice will deliver them. Why do Shiaa celebrate the death of Hussain? This concepts of the savior and the deliverance are not present in Islam. What is the reason for the reenactment?

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April 28th, 2012, 2:42 pm

 

223. Alan said:

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30584
United Arab Emirates (UAE) lead Anti-Iran Alliance on Behalf of Washington and Tel Aviv

by Kourosh Ziabari
The United Arab Emirates officials are burning with a low blue flame. They have once again started insulting the Iranian nation using an arrogant and offensive language. What has irritated them this time is the recent visit paid by the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to the Iranian island of Abu Musa in the Persian Gulf as part of his provincial trip to the southern province of Hormozgan on April 11. They claim that the island belongs to their soil and that Iran has violated their territorial integrity by continuing its “occupation” of the strategic island.

Of course fueling anti-Iranian sentiments has been constantly on the UAE officials’ political agenda. The statesmen of the newborn, tiny Arab sheikhdom think that by launching verbal attacks against Iran, they can gain power and popularity. But they have brought their eggs to the wrong market. Hostility and rivaling with Iran will backfire and fail. The hullabaloo of the Emirati officials is a tempest in a teapot and there’s no trace of logic and rationality in it. What is annoying and painful is that by credulously neglecting the principle of peaceful neighborhood and coexistence, the Arab officials are muttering the words of Israel, the U.S. and UK about Iran

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April 28th, 2012, 2:46 pm

 

224. bronco said:

#211 Tara

Sorry, totally unconvincing excuses.

When the Syrian security forces were allegedly shooting at ‘peaceful’ demonstrations early in the uprising, their number was in the hundred thousands, now the demonstrations are meager and rare and the security forces are only throwing tear gas. Either fatigue or desillusion… The SNC did not even bother calling for ‘massive’ demonstrations or strikes as they know they won’t happen.

Now the government is organizing suicide bombings in areas where there are a gathering of security agents, really?

Now the government is using Scud missiles on Hama’s buildings, really?

The amount of absurdities coming out from the opposition desperate to prevent more UN observers on the ground as they would give an impartial account of who is doing what, shows that the peace plan is seriously threatening the opposition’s agenda.

Annan is determined to make his plan work despite the organized sabotage and the media incitment by the EOS to call it dead.

Time is needed but I think the plan is on track.

Just read Annan’s report to the UNSC posted by Zoo earlier.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:48 pm

 

225. Alan said:

Syrian paper accuses UN chief of encouraging “terrorists”
http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/105255/
April 28, 2012 – 18:01 AMT

PanARMENIAN.Net – A Syrian state-run newspaper accused UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Saturday, April 28, of encouraging “terrorist” rebel attacks by focusing his criticism on the government, while other government media reported that the navy foiled an infiltration attempt by gunmen who tried to land on the Syrian coast in rubber boats.

The editorial in Tishrin daily came a day after Ban said Syrian President Bashar Assad’s continued crackdown on protests has reached an “intolerable stage.” It also followed what the state media said was a suicide attack in Damascus that left 10 dead.

On Saturday, activists said army defectors clashed briefly with troops in the coastal town of Burj Islam, which is home to the presidential summer palace. They had no immediate word on casualties. Assad was not believed to be in the palace at the time of the fighting.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:59 pm

 

226. Tara said:

Bronco

“Now the government is organizing suicide bombings in areas where there are a gathering of security agents, really?”

Bronco, you must be consistent with yourself. You refuse to believe that the regime is organizing suicide bombing in areas where there are a gathering of security agents but you easily believe that the opposition is bombing themselves in their own area?

Tear gas? Really? And the 50-100 death a day is from what? From crying?

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April 28th, 2012, 3:04 pm

 

227. Tara said:

The regime wants to make the UN a party to the conflict

Syria hits back to the UN chief’s criticism
April 29, 2012

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/13547850/syria-hits-back-to-un-chiefs-criticism/

Syria has derided UN chief Ban Ki-moon as biased and called his comments “outrageous” after he blamed the regime for widespread ceasefire violations – the latest sign of trouble for an international peace plan many expect to fail.

In new fighting on Saturday, activists said regime forces battled army defectors near President Bashar Assad’s summer palace in a coastal village and shelled a Damascus suburb in pursuit of gunmen. State media said government troops foiled an attempt by armed men in rubber boats to land on Syria’s coast, the first reported attempt by rebels to infiltrate from the sea.
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The regime “wants to make the UN a party to the conflict, rather than a mediator, and to stretch out the process to prevent any kind of serious change,” Rami Khoury, an analyst at the American University of Beirut, said of Saturday’s editorial.
More..

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April 28th, 2012, 3:05 pm

 

228. irritated said:

#218 Omen

A propaganda caricature piece from sweet “Baba Hamad”: the Shias are violent and hateful while the Sunnis are innocent and smiling.
Pathetic.

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April 28th, 2012, 3:08 pm

 

229. bronco said:

#226 Tara

Talking about consistency, you have a bad memory as you forgot this, back on 6th January 2012 where 11 policemen were killed?

“In Damascus, government officials and state media said the bomber had detonated an explosive belt next to three buses bringing policemen to Midan, in the south of the city, just before weekly anti-regime demonstrations were due to start.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/06/syrian-bomb-attacks-assad-regime

The new suicide bomb is a repeat of this one. But it failed to kill as many policemen.

Most of the people who were killed in the last weeks are soldiers or innocents killed by the armed gangs while preparing their suicide bombs… so please check well before throwing your numbers. Are you becoming the female version of Rami Abdel Rahman?

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April 28th, 2012, 3:21 pm

 

230. Tara said:

Bronco

50-100 death a day was what has been reported by the LCC, that is activists and civilians slaughtered by the regime.  I have been adding links so go back and review.  I have not seen how Rami Abdel Rahman looks like so I can’t comment if I am a female version of him.  Do you know how he looks like?  Does he have green-blue eyes?  

Andيا عيني, citing regime media and governmental official does not constitute evidence.  I thought we are way beyond that…   

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April 28th, 2012, 3:38 pm

 

231. bronco said:

#230 Tara

“citing anti-regime media and LCC does not constitute evidence either.”

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April 28th, 2012, 3:46 pm

 

232. Ghufran said:

Even if you use rami abdelrahman as a reference,close to 39% who died in Syria since march 2011 were army and security officers, if the armed opposition wanted to inflict pain on the army and security forces, it has certainly succeeded, but now what?

How many people need to die before fighting parties admit that they can not defeat the other side and wipe it out of physical existence?

Advocates of war are Syrians who are imprisoned by revenge and exclusionary fantasies or non Syrians who do not want a functioning state in Syria. Annan plan is an experiment being manipulated by two parties who have not decided to talk to each other yet, the regime in particular is pleased to see that the theory of one side killing everybody else is dead,and it has benefited the most from the infiltration of terrorists in the opposition forces. It seems to me that the early announcement of the death of Annan plan is mostly done to advance a military solution for the Syrian crisis except that such solution is effectively a declaration of civil war, some posters openly support that option.

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April 28th, 2012, 3:55 pm

 

233. Halabi said:

“Even if you use rami abdelrahman as a reference,close to 39% who died in Syria since march 2011 were army and security officers.”

The percentage of army and police deaths is 28.5% according to the observatory numbers. Defectors are also included in that tally, while over 8,000 others are civilians, according to the group.

It doesn’t matter what we write anonymously here or say publicly from exile, as long as Bashar and his police state continues to rule with tanks and guns, a large portion of the Syrian population will consider fighting the regime a religious and moral obligation. A war against Assad’s dictatorship fits the definition of a just war, which gives cover to nations who want to project power in Syria to arm the rebels as they see fit.

Even if Bashar, his family and his criminal cronies leave, it’s unlikely today that Syrians will accept the authority of a corrupt military that has dropped more bombs on Taftanaz than Israel. Syrians will not be free unless they dismantle the security state, which has, to the detriment of most, dominated all aspects of Syria’s government and society in the Assad era.

Great nations have emerged from civil wars. Other countries were weakened and divided. We will see how Syria turns out next decade.

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April 28th, 2012, 4:53 pm

 

234. Norman said:

Zoo, here it is.

Bronco, The UN Secretary laying the ground work for the invasion.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/04/27/international/i061016D25.DTL

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April 28th, 2012, 5:02 pm

 

235. jna said:

Women and Islam: A Debate with Human Rights Watch

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/feb/23/women-islam-debate-human-rights-watch/

To Kenneth Roth:
( … )

You say, “It is important to nurture the rights-respecting elements of political Islam while standing firm against repression in its name,” but you fail to call for the most basic guarantee of rights—the separation of religion from the state.

( … )

The way you ignore social and economic rights is of a piece with your neglect of women, sexual rights, and religious minorities. Your vision is still rooted in the period before the Vienna Conference and the great advances it made in holding non-state actors accountable and seeing women’s rights as human rights. Your essay makes it all too clear that while the researchers, campaigners, and country specialists who are the arms and legs and body of Human Rights Watch may defend the rights of women, minorities, and the poor, the head of their organization is mainly interested in relations between states.

Meredith Tax
Centre for Secular Space

Sultana Kamal
Ain O Salish Kendra (ASK), Bangladesh

Fatou Sow
Women Living Under Muslim Laws (WLUML)

Faizun Zackariya
Muslim Women’s Research and Action Front (MWRAF), Sri Lanka

And thirteen other women’s rights organizations around the world; the full list can be found on the Centre for Secular Space website. A petition to HRW can be found here.

Reading further down, a reply from Human Rights Watch, and also more replys and comments.

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April 28th, 2012, 5:06 pm

 

236. Syria no Kandahar said:

Halabi
Do you know of any Islamic great nation which emerged from civil war?

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April 28th, 2012, 5:27 pm

 

237. Syria no Kandahar said:

Alan,

In regard the Israeli-Kurdish relations it is a recent history from the days of mulla Barazani.

As far as Kurdish-Arabic relationships they have not been love ones. Halabja and repression against them has created chronic hate inside many of them.

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April 28th, 2012, 5:32 pm

 

238. Alan said:

http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/405909.html

Beijing against external interference in Syria

MOSCOW, April 28 (Itar-Tass) —— Beijing is strongly against external interference in Syria, Chinese Vice Premier Li Keqiang said.

“Moscow and Beijing are 100 percent identical positions on the North Korean issue and the situation in Syria. We are against solving the Syrian issue by force. We are strongly against external interference in the affairs of the Arab republic for the sake of regime change. Otherwise, we will see a repetition of the Libyan situation,” Li said on Saturday, April 28.

[ … ]

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April 28th, 2012, 5:37 pm

 

239. Halabi said:

North Korea, the mn 7ebak paradise. Hafez was very impressed with the dictatorship and adopted much of the personality cult from the Kims. Assad’s allies have no problem turning Syria into North Korea, a failed state that can be used as bargaining chip for other issues.

Free Syrians reject this plan to become mindless zombies for the criminal gang ruling the country and their masters in Moscow and Beijing. How many people here would want to live in North Korea, a puppet of China and Russia, over Qatar, a puppet of the West.

Even the we-love-you would choose Qatar, although they probably would choose Qatar over Syria in the best of times if the price is right, given their love of living in the West.

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April 28th, 2012, 6:08 pm

 

240. Alan said:

236. SYRIA NO KANDAHAR
كل هؤلاء هم الاكراد
الاقوام الارية التي تسكن منطقة كردستان التي تشكل أجزاء متجاورة من العراق وتركيا وسوريا وإيران وارمينيا حيث قدرت الإحصاءات عددهم بحوالي 55 مليون نسمة، وهم يتوزعون بالشكل التالي :1. في الشرق الأوسط
• تركيا : 22 مليون.
• إيران : 8 مليون.
• العراق : 4.2 ملايين.
• سوريا : 1.3 مليون.
. 2.في آسيا
• أفغانستان : 250,000
• أذربيجان : 150,000
• ارمينيا : 95,000
• جورجيا : 210,000
• لبنان : 100,000
• إسرائيل : 100,000-150,000
• الهند : 1600,000
• كازاخستان : 460,500
• تركمنستان : 400,000
• روسيا : 1900,607
3.في أوروبا
• ألمانيا : /8000,000 /5000,000
• فرنسا : 1200,000
• السويد : 800,000
• هولندا : 700,000
• سويسرا : 600,000
• بريطانيا : 250,000-850,000
• الدنمارك : 800,000-3000,000
• اليونان :200,000-205,000
• اوكرانيا : 200,088
4.في أمريكا الشمالية100000
• الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية : 400,000
• كندا :60,000
5.في أستراليا : 500,000
6.في أفريقيا
•تشاد :40,000
فنجد من هذه الإحصاءات ان 55% من مجموع الاكراد يعيشون في تركيا وحوالي 20% من الاكراد يعيشون في كل من العراق وإيران و 18% من مجموع الاكراد تقريبا يعيشون في سوريا واما النسبة الباقية وهي حوالي 20% يتوزعون في أنحاء العالم المختلفة.
هل ما جاء من علاقات يمثل كل هؤلاء ؟
لاحظ انه في اسرائيل يتواجد قرابة 150 ألف كردي يهودي !
http://www.4newiraq.com/news/print.php?sid=24890 و ضمن هذا الاطار هرب البارزاني الذي يمثل فئة محدودة جدا من ماذكر أعلاه إلى الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية
حيث توفي فيها عام 1979م، في مستشفى جورج واشنطن إثر مرض عضال.
أما عن حلبجة فذلك في ذمةالرئيس العراقي السابق و ليس في ذمة كل العرب ! و العرب أخوة للأكراد و تجمعهم التاريخ و الجغرافيا و المصير و العيش المشترك !

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April 28th, 2012, 6:10 pm

 

241. Syria no Kandahar said:

Alan,

I am talking from personally living between Kurds and Arabs in Syria, I wish you were right but I have not seen that love. A Kurd will shop from a Kurd will go to A Kurdish doctor (even if he was a bad one). Arabs are not so much that way but relations are not healthy. Arabs and Kurds share the same towns in the north east how would you do what the Kurds want: federalism or independence?

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April 28th, 2012, 6:23 pm

 

242. Alan said:

239. HALABI
let’s read what this North Korea the malicious country!!! the same Russia and China!
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Foreign_Policy/US_ForeignPolicy.html

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April 28th, 2012, 6:35 pm

 

243. Tara said:

Bronco

Obviously, I can’t use the LCC reports to convince you with the regime crimes. You can’t use the regime media to convince me with the “alleged” crimes of the opposition. We need outside journalists. I have always wanted the international press to gain acess to Syria. Do you regret your prior stated support of Bashar’s decision to seal Syria off from the international press?

And are you going to refrain from using the term “majority” when having no evidence?

Please stop worrying about me…I am fine. I have a sharper memory than average… It feels good though when someone is concerned about your health and well being. Does’t it?

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April 28th, 2012, 6:39 pm

 

244. ann said:

Moscow angry as Syrian army hit from sea – Updated 2 hours ago

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-46598-Moscow-angry-as-Syrian-army-hit-from-sea

Russia, Damascus’ most powerful ally, stepped up its criticism of anti-Assad militias, condemning what it called “barbarous” attacks designed to scuttle the two-week-old truce engineered by U.N.-Arab League mediator Kofi Annan.

Syrian media say Ban was inflaming the conflict by ignoring “crimes and terrorist actions” committed by anti-Assad militiamen.

“His focus on shamefully pointing at Syria, as usual, encourages these groups to continue to commit more crimes and terrorist acts,” the state newspaper Tishreen said.

Russia also piled in, saying the disparate rebel groups trying to topple Assad appeared determined to trash what is left of the U.N.-backed peace initiative.

“Attempts by the irreconcilable opposition to increase tension even more and incite violence cause particular alarm,” Moscow said in a statement. “The aim is clear: to ruin a solution in Syria based on Annan’s plan.”

[…]

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April 28th, 2012, 6:46 pm

 

245. Alan said:

241. SYRIA NO KANDAHAR
أنت ذكرت ما يفرق ! بينما أنا ذكرت ما يجمع ! على مايجمع خلينانبني! :)

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April 28th, 2012, 6:52 pm

 

246. ann said:

Saudi children abandoned by their Saudi father suffer in Syrian strife

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=20120429122962

“I am Syrian and I have been divorced for four years from a Saudi man who works as a faculty member in one of the universities in the Kingdom. When we got married, I was only 15 years of age and was the third wife, following a Saudi and a Pakistani woman. We were together for 10 years and we had three children.

“Marital problems and differences arose between us and he subsequently divorced me. He sent my children to Syria to live with me. For four years since the divorce, my ex-husband did not inquire about our welfare or send any financial assistance, even though our son has heart problems and needs special medical treatment.

I contacted my ex-husband in Saudi Arabia and asked him to receive his children in the Kingdom where they would be safe. His answer struck me like a lightning bolt. He said, ‘Your situation is of no concern to me and I have no ties with you’. He changed his mobile number and I have no way to get through to him,” continued Umm Muhammad.

She even called her ex-husband’s relatives and begged them to convince him to welcome his own children back. They tried to change his mind but he would not relent, so they asked her to not bother them again.

[…]

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April 28th, 2012, 6:59 pm

 

247. ann said:

Feature: Protracting crisis worsens poverty in Syria – 2012-04-29

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-04/29/c_123056253.htm

DAMASCUS, April 28 (Xinhua) — Life turns increasingly unaffordable for a large segment of the Syrian society as the spinning-out crisis in the country beats hard on the less well-off and spirals the percentage of the poor.

A recent report issued by the Labor Union in Syria reveals that the proportion of the poor has amounted to 41 percent of the 23 million Syrian population. It says that the Tenth Five-Year Plan was ambitious to create 625,000 new jobs in the first two years, but it actually provided 277,000, or only 44 percent.

Workers in both public and private sectors and retirees complain about their salaries which have been eroded in light of the skyrocketing prices of almost all commodities, as well as about the failure of the government to control the markets.

The daunting pressures on all businesses in Syria have forced many employers to sack workers, raising thus the number of the jobless.

The report says special attention should be paid to the workshops and crafts and to motivate them to shift from the shadow economy to formal and legal economy, and also emphasizes the need to restrict the activities of investment and holding companies in the high-cost projects, and to increase the state’s support for the poor and develop a consistent policy of wages compatible with the cost of living.

As observers fear that the rising poverty caused by prolonged uncertainties would foment popular wrath, the report calls for the need to reduce unemployment, especially among young people, by increasing government investment in public sector with the cooperation of the private sector to provide new job opportunities.

Prominent Syrian economic expert Aref Dalileh recently told media that the economic problems in Syria have stemmed from the decades-long political system, while the economic factor in turn constitutes the main reason for the current events in Syria today.

According to Dalileh, the roots of the economic problems lie in the way the government manages the national economy and the economic surplus, especially its failure to use the surplus in development.

The Syrian unrest that erupted over a year ago and the ensuing U.S., EU and Arab sanctions have tightened the squeeze around the already slow-moving economy that has been striving to shift from the socialist style to open market, hitting hard all businesses in the country ranging from tourism, oil to banking sectors, and after all, people’s daily life.

As the EU said lately that it is mulling new package of sanctions on Syria, Amru Eiz-eldin, a 35-year-old worker, told Xinhua that “It’s not a secret that prices have gone up tremendously and that people’s purchasing power has decreased. We’ re all feeling it.”

“Some people are no longer eating meat,” he said.

Suad Sultan, a local housewife in Damascus, also complained. “A dish of salad cost 400 Syrian pounds (about 9 U.S. dollar),” she said.

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April 28th, 2012, 7:14 pm

 

248. Alan said:

for what a knife in a back? and where justice of France?
Gaddafi put up 50M euro for Sarkozy’s presidential bid – report
http://rt.com/news/sarkozy-gaddafi-campaign-contribution-238/

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April 28th, 2012, 7:19 pm

 

249. Alan said:

Anti-Gaddafi plot conceived in Paris – Voltaire Network
http://rt.com/news/voltaire-network-french-meyssan/

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April 28th, 2012, 7:29 pm

 

250. Alan said:

Russia, China to trade in national currencies
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_04_29/73285173/
syria can follow this practice !

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April 28th, 2012, 7:40 pm

 

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