Haplogroup U – Are We More United And Similar Than We Think? – By EHSANI

The Syrian crisis was always going to be different than what we all witnessed in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen thus far.  Every country has its own nuances that render it a unique case.  One of the glaring characteristics of the current Syrian conflict is to do with its sectarian fault lines.

Syrians like me have always been apprehensive about discussing our sectarian and religious differences.  Indeed, the subject matter has been taboo in Syrian society.

Like it or not, it is clear that this crisis has been taking on an undeniable sectarian character. While this is not surprising, I feel compelled to share a personal experience with the many Syrian readers of this note:

Back in 2010, I had read about “The Genographic Project”. This was a collaborative effort by National Geographic, IBM and the Waitt Family Foundation. For a fee, a person’s DNA results will be identified. The task will then involve finding out which branch on the Human family tree this person belongs to.  Naturally, I was skeptical at first.  In the end, I decided to participate in the project with my brother. I would track my paternal ancestors while he would track our maternal side (each person can only choose one).  With a simple swab from our cheeks and a 9-digit number to identify us we were promised an answer within six weeks.

Our DNA results identified us as belonging to the “Haplogroup U”.  As geneticists know, scientists believe that the human story begins in Africa sometime between 150,000 and 170,000 years ago, with a woman whom anthropologists have nicknamed “Mitochondrial Eve”.  This discovery was made in 1987 when it was confirmed that all people alive on the planet today can trace their maternal lineage to her. This is not to say that Mitochondrial Eve was the first female human. Eve was a survivor. Other Homo sapiens who evolved in Africa around 200,000 years ago became extinct. A maternal line can become extinct for a number of reasons. A woman may not have children, or she may bear only sons. She may fall victim to a catastrophic event such as volcanic eruption, flood, or famine, all of which have plagued humans since the dawn of our species.  None of these extinctions happened to Eve’s line.

EVE’s first ancestral line was L1/L0 who are now found exclusively in Africa.

L2 and L3 are also found all over Africa but they were the first descendents who moved north of the continent around 80,000 ago.

Those who made it across the Sinai Peninsula (present-day Egypt) formed group “N”.

After several thousand years, humans sharing a female ancestor from this N clan started making it to Anatolia (present-day Turkey) and formed Haplogroup R.

We now arrive at my own clan:

Most members of my “U” group are found in the eastern Mediterranean who descend from a woman in the R branch who lived around 50,000 ago.

Based in North America and only identified with a 9-digit number, this Genographic Project was able to identify my descendants as having lineages found in the eastern Mediterranean from some 50,000 years ago. This is 46,488 years before Moses. It is also 47,988 years before Jesus and 49,430 before the prophet Mohammad.

Presumably most of the inhabitants of what is Syria today may share the same DNA lineages as me.  My wish is for the whole country to participate in this Genome project. It would be interesting if the results confirm that members of the SNC, NCC, Tansiqiyat, Mokhabarat, Fourth division, Baba Amr, Daraa, Free Syrian Army and the whole of Qurdaha all share the same ancestral mother that had reached this land some 50,000 years ago well before all of our Prophets.

Many members of my immediate family have started talking about migrating out of this land. Having reviewed my 2-year old genome test this morning, I wonder if the current Syrian crisis qualifies as my family’s own version of a catastrophic event that forced us out of the region after 50,000 of finding refuge there.

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751. SANDRO LOEWE said:

JUERGEN,

Thanks for this link, very ¨charming article¨.

Everyday I see begging children sleeping in the streets and bridges of Damascus and other 5 to 10 years old childs smoking and asking money in front of restaurants I wonder WHERE IS THE ROSE OF DAMASCUS and her CHILDREN FOUNDATIONS?

Also I wonder if she ever founded a charity association for victims of torture and long stays in syrian prisons for political reasons.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:15 pm

 

752. ann said:

Arab FMs likely to discuss observer mission report on Syria on Jan. 22 – 2012-01-15

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/15/c_131360615.htm

CAIRO, Jan. 14 (Xinhua) — Arab League (AL) Deputy Secretary General Ahmed Ben Helli said Saturday that Arab foreign ministers are likely to meet on Jan. 22 to discuss the report of the AL’s observer mission in Syria.

The AL official was quoted by Egypt’s official news agency MENA as saying that the AL ministerial committee in charge of handling the Syrian crisis is likely to meet on Jan. 21, and the report issued by the Arab monitors will be discussed a day later.

Sudanese General Mohammed Ahmed Mostafa al-Dabi, head of the Arab observer mission in Syria, is to submit his report to AL chief Nabil al-Arabi on Jan. 20.

Helli added that the AL will hold another meeting on Jan. 29 to discuss the recent developments of the Palestinian reconciliation, the Israeli violations and the judaization of Jerusalem.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:22 pm

 

753. Juergen said:

Sandro
The only good thing is that we dont know until now if she has committed any crimes, in Romania Elena Ceaucescu was much more feared than her husband, also our first lady was a living hell to some as minister of education it was her who decided if children were taken into custody if the parents were in opposition. Of course her intention was to safe the children from their crazy parents.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:23 pm

 

754. Dale Andersen said:

From the CIA/Saudi/Salafist/Jew/EU/al-Qaeda Press:

“…in an interview to be broadcast Sunday, the emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, told the U.S. television network CBS that some Arab troops should go to Syria to stop the killing…”

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January 14th, 2012, 2:38 pm

 

755. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

الشعب السوري رهينة عصابة مجرمين دموية تعمل تحت اسم حزب سياسي ولها واجهة وتؤيدها دولة المنافقين الشيعية- انقذو الوطن والشعب السوري من الذل وسفاحين الدماء اللذي واجهتهم بشار الأسد

העם הסורי ערובה כנופיה של פושעים הדמים ההפעלה תחת השם של מפלגה פוליטית
叙利亚人民人质下的政党名称经营的罪犯团伙的血腥
Syriske folk gidsel blodige bande af kriminelle, der opererer under navnet politisk parti
Сирийский народ заложником кровавая банда преступников, действующих в рамках названия политической партии
Suriye halkı rehin siyasi partinin adı altında faaliyet gösteren suçluların kanlı çete
Syriska folket gisslan blodiga banditgäng verkar under namnet politiskt parti
Συρίας ανθρώπων ως ομήρων, αιματηρή συμμορία κακοποιών, που δρουν κάτω από το όνομα του πολιτικού κόμματος
Syrische Volk als Geisel blutige Bande von Kriminellen, die unter dem Namen der politischen Partei
सीरिया बंधक राजनीतिक पार्टी के नाम के तहत ऑपरेटिंग अपराधियों के खूनी गिरोह लोग
Povo sírio refém sangrentas entre gangues de criminosos que operam sob o nome de partido político
مردم سوریه گروگان باند خونین جنایتکاران عامل تحت نام حزب سیاسی

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January 14th, 2012, 2:40 pm

 

756. majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
All of us are against violence, It is the regime who started and continue the violence in a very brutal way I did not hear you condemning Assad, more that that Assad is using Shabbiha and security forces and army all of them are controlled by Allawis, the mojority of Alawis are supporting Assad in his brutal and criminal violence ,I did not hear you saying anything against them.
Mjabali, let me teach you something, there is difference between personally insulting someone and call him stupid,Ajdab,Az3ar and saying your idea is stupid, you have insulted me personally several time I had to respond to teach that you must stop, personal insult is stupid,and you certainly started this.
Further Mr Mjabali, IT was not respect from you to insult any religion, religion is personal, and when you insult religion you are not respectful, you did not like it for me to insult your family, family and religion must not be insulted, do you understand , you must be polite and never attack religion,and this is a red line if you repeat it again I will consider that personal insult and will respond in personal attack.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:43 pm

 

757. ann said:

Qatar backs foreign invasion of Syria – Sat Jan 14, 2012

Qatar’s Emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, has said he believes Arab troops should be deployed to Syria to stop what he refers to as the deadly crackdown by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/221060.html

The comments were made during an interview on CBS’s ’60 Minutes’ program, which is due to be aired on Sunday. The Associated Press, however, received excerpts of the interview on Saturday.

Sheikh Hamad is the first Arab leader to publicly call for the deployment of Arab troops in Syria.

The Qatari emir has ruled the Persian Gulf state since 1995. He came to power after deposing his father in a palace coup and was crowned on June 2000.

Moreover, Sheikh Hamad hardly tolerates any dissent and controls the country’s discretionary system of law.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President al-Assad’s government.

Hundreds of people, including many members of the Syrian security forces, have been killed during the unrest.

The Syrian government says outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorists are the driving factor behind the turmoil and deadly violence, while the opposition accuses the security forces of being behind the killings.

Damascus also says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:44 pm

 

758. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

Syria is ruled by a puppet and deployed Baathist puppets ببغاء to repeat this mantra:

“…the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians….”

6000+ dead Syrians so far, when it will stop. Help Syrians, please put stop to this Shia backed and supported genocide against Syrians.

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January 14th, 2012, 2:57 pm

 

759. Juergen said:

The brave people of Homs. I dont know if you all know this story that the Homsi people are seen as a bit crazy or better say they have an special attitude towards life. Rafik Schami, this syrian author who lives in Germany wrote a nice story about them. Syria 1400, The Mongols were on their way to destroy Homs on the way to Aleppo, Damascus was already destroyed by them.The council of Homs debatted what to do to survive the barbaric Mongols. So they decided on a funny plan. The next day the whole city met on the river Orontes and all inhabitants crossdressed, some were naked and wore nothing but a turban. As the Mongols arrived and saw the Homsi people act so strangely they left the city as they thought there is a strange fever in this city. Since then the people of Homs have the reputation of being a bit more crazy than the rest of the country, and the people of homs are smart enough to keep it that way…

French reportage about life in Homs, filmed in December.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:03 pm

 

760. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

“……..religion is personal, and when you insult religion you are not respectful…”

The key word here is PERSONAL. You cannot demand nor should you expect respect for your religion if it leaves the personal believes roam and enter the PUBLIC POLITCIAL roam. You can, and should expect, violence against you and your religion, when it claims that it is the only truth and it force its way to publicly rule an entire nation of millions as a Political Force. Especially, when it claims to be and rule as the only POLITICAL REGIME allowed in a country.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:06 pm

 

761. irritated said:

#750 Dale Andersen

Thanks for parroting #746 and #753.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:11 pm

 

762. Mina said:

The Mongols in 1400?? You mean 1260.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:13 pm

 

763. Juergen said:

the proassad demonstration today in Berlin has not published yet their musicvideo, so addicted to the supreme leader wait a bit, i will post it as soon its online, so far only our video of our protest against their demonstration is out:

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January 14th, 2012, 3:20 pm

 

764. Juergen said:

Mina

there were two wars with the Mongols in 1260 under Kublai Khan and 1400-1402 under Timur Lenk, Homs was targeted both times.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:26 pm

 

765. Juergen said:

The Pro Assad demonstration in Berlin today, no dabke dancing today, last time they had an music system and a truck. Well
sic gloria transit mundi, Thus passes the glory of the world!

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January 14th, 2012, 3:36 pm

 

766. Mina said:

Irritated, Mjabali,
Thanks for your support!
Now that Israel, the Gulf, the US and the EU are in complete agreement to attack Iran (and even the “democracies” among them will not put that to referendum), I cannot see how could Bashar resign, even if he wanted. Since Syria is an ally of Iran and Lebanon, for geopolitical and historical reason, it simply makes no sense. Just as the alliances between the UK-US and the Gulf is not one that can vanish in a day (and even when 90 percent of their democratic citizens would like so).

Jürgen,
Usually, Timur is considered the first Timurid, not the last Mongol.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:43 pm

 

767. irritated said:

#760

Homs: After the Mongols horses, the Qatari elephants.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:45 pm

 

768. Juergen said:

probably the younges defector and the only girl ever to defect?

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January 14th, 2012, 3:45 pm

 

769. Juergen said:

Thank you Tunisia!

The regime may thought that the song of Quashush would disminish, here is a vital sign it has survived, even though the potrayed statesmen claims in the ABC interview he doesnt know it…

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January 14th, 2012, 3:52 pm

 

770. Syria no kandahar said:

Terrorgen
Keep the kids out of this killing and dirty civil war.

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January 14th, 2012, 3:55 pm

 

771. irritated said:

Juergen #764

I hope that that the FSA will be provided with funds for a kindergarten soon.
Why wasn’t any collection of the funds for the FSA kindergarten in the Germany inspiring anti-regime demonstration that you proudly posted?

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January 14th, 2012, 4:00 pm

 

772. defender said:

لا يوجد أبطال في الحروب الأهلية، ومن يتدخل فيها هم أبطال سلبيون”.

“يجب ترك سورية وشأنها ومساعدة الأطراف المتنازعة في إيجاد مخرج من المواجهة نحو الحوار السياسي. ليس هناك طريق آخر. كل حرب تنتهي بسلام، والسؤال – ما ثمن هذا السلام. لذلك لا يجب التدخل في سورية، إذ أنه أمر خطير”.
“إننا نرى أن تدخل الغرب من أجل ديمقرطة الأنظمة السياسية في الشرق الأوسط وشمال أفريقيا نتج عنه في جميع الاحوال وصول الإسلاميين إلى الحكم. إذا كان الغرب يعتقد بأن العيش بجوار الدول التي تعتمد أنظمتها السياسية على الشريعة سيكون مريحا له، فهذا اختياره بلا شك. لكني أعتبر أنه يتميز بقصر النظر”.
دميتري روغوزين – نائب رئيس الوزراء الروسي، الممثل الخاص للرئيس الروسي للعلاقات مع حلف الناتو

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January 14th, 2012, 4:00 pm

 

773. Syria no kandahar said:

مزيدا من الاعمال البطوليه لخنازير وخراتيت سوريا امثال terrorgenوThe terrorist MD

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January 14th, 2012, 4:05 pm

 

774. Mina said:

Since Qatar knows how a country should be ruled, could we know more about its institutions? If the guy dies from a heart attack tomorrow, will there be another coup like the one who brought that guy instead of his father?
Qatar is becoming the new paradise of outlaws in this world: Sakher Matri, who was Tunisia’s Rami Makhlouf, the Taliban, Qardawi, soon Hamas. Who else is to come?
http://blog.lefigaro.fr/malbrunot/2012/01/rencontre-au-qatar-avec-le-gen.html

For Bashar’s speech, it was wishful thiking: I heard only the beginning of the sentence that says:
“”I salute you while you get out from Mosques, churches, schools and universities as to stand against westernization and to support Arabization, and assert the role of your institutions, on top of which the institution of the Army and Armed Forces, whose martyrs are every day martyred so that we are secure and free,” underscored President al-Assad.”

By the way, I am not sure anyone has pasted the full speech at Damascus university:
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=21467

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January 14th, 2012, 4:07 pm

 

775. defender said:

640. SYRIALOVER said:

Why inflict 9 irrelevant news items on us in two hours?
comment pl.

745. JUERGEN
749. JUERGEN
755. JUERGEN
759. JUERGEN
760. JUERGEN
761. JUERGEN
764. JUERGEN
765. JUERGEN

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January 14th, 2012, 4:09 pm

 

776. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Juergen #765,

Wow this clip is powerful! I believe it was taken during the demonstration in Tunis, commemorating Buazizi R.I.P. and the beginning of the (so called) Arab Spring. Just one year… to me is seems like ages.
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January 14th, 2012, 4:29 pm

 

777. zoo said:

Qatar’s presence criticized:
““We thank them for selling Tunisia to these people!”

Tunisia: Pride and despair one year after revolt
14/01 16:54 CET
http://www.euronews.net/2012/01/14/tunisia-pride-and-despair-one-year-after-revolt/

The Arab Spring is one year old and they have been celebrating in the place where it all started – Tunisia.

People gathered in Bourguiba Avenue in Tunis where protests against the then President Ben Ali reached their climax, forcing him to flee a year ago today.

Despite Tunisia’s progress since, problems remain including poverty, unemployment and corruption.

Others are angry about close ties between Tunisia’s new Islamist-led coalition and Qatar which is accused of buying influence in the country.

“We are grieving today,” a woman said.

“The current regime is giving us a day to celebrate the revolution. They are giving an invitation to Qatar to celebrate this occasion,” she added, referring to the visit of its Emir.

“We thank them for selling Tunisia to these people!”

Our correspondent in Tunisia, Jamel Ezzedini, said:
“Tunisia’s revolution is marking its first anniversary but it still has a long way to go before its objectives are reached. Tunisians are in the streets today to celebrate, but also to remind the leadership that the revolution that toppled Ben Ali can get rid of them too if they have not yet learned the lesson.”
One man in the crowd said he had been suffering for the last six months and that nobody cared.

“They arrested my son for no reason, six months ago. He was wrongly accused. He went to the police station to pick up an identity document and never came back,” he said, struggling to hold back tears.

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January 14th, 2012, 4:34 pm

 

778. defender said:

one fisherman sees another from afar!

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January 14th, 2012, 4:46 pm

 

779. Mina said:

The picture that the BBC has picked says it all!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16561493

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January 14th, 2012, 5:02 pm

 

780. Syrialover said:

Defender #771

Good point. But there are important differences between that and what you and others now do on this site.

1. Juergen is thinking and COMMENTING (not only randomly cut-pasting) and 2. it is about SYRIA and 3. he is aware of and responding to the DISCUSSION.

If you did the same there would have been no objections from me.

And the comments section on SC would regain some of the interest and quality it used to have. Go back over the years and have a look.

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January 14th, 2012, 5:12 pm

 

781. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

SC lately is infested with flocks of acute mnhebaks. It became an emotional challenge to enter this blog. And also a physical one. I have to fight hard the urge to puke when I see what the mnhebaks write here.
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January 14th, 2012, 5:13 pm

 

782. irritated said:

Mina #775

You can’t blame the BBC photograph, he did his best.

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January 14th, 2012, 5:26 pm

 

783. irritated said:

Amir in Tel Aviv

“I have to fight hard the urge to puke when I see what the mnhebaks write her”

It’s bad for your health to fight that urge. Relax, internet does not carry smell yet!

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January 14th, 2012, 5:30 pm

 

784. zoo said:

Interview with Amr Moussa

http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=28098
….
[Asharq Al-Awsat] There have been claims that the Muslim Brotherhood affiliated Freedom and Justice Party will back current Arab League Secretary-General Nabil Elaraby for the presidency. Have you given this scenario any thought?

[Moussa] No, I have not thought about this. I am in contact with everybody, and with Dr. Nabil Elaraby, and also with [Advisory Council president] Mansour Hassasn, and others. Their position is that they are outside of the scope of presidential candidacy, however even if this did occur…then I welcome it. When the name of Nabil Elaraby, or any other, is put forward, this does not bother me, indeed I welcome it.
….
About SYRIA
[Asharq Al-Awsat] What about the Syrian regime continuing to kill Syrian citizens at this time? It seems that the Arab League is not dealing with the Syrian revolution in the same manner as the Libyan revolution. Why is that?

[Moussa] Libya was in between two countries where change had taken place, namely Tunisia and Egypt; therefore it was hard to avoid such change. Syria is in a region that does not respond to revolutions. It is also an extremely sensitive region…being next to Israel, as well as Arab states that fear certain political developments. Syria is next to Iraq, Turkey, and others. However this by no means justifies the use of violence against citizens, nor does it justify the death of 5,000 citizens in clashes with the government. I am not in the picture regarding what precisely the Arab League is doing [with regards to Syria], but I believe that the Arab League delegation of monitors must be considered a first step, and not the end of the road. As I said, the situation in Syria is different to Libya. There are a number of complexities surrounding the Syrian situation; however this does not justify the bloodshed that is being seen in the Syrian streets. I believe that the Arab League should take a clear position regarding change [in Syria], and that violence against the [Syrian] citizens must stop, otherwise it is up to the relevant international security authorities to take action.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] If you were the Arab League Secretary-General today, how would you resolve this crisis?

[Moussa] Firstly, there must be a halt to the violence against the citizens.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] However how would you achieve this?

[Moussa] The Arab League observers must submit daily reports about what is happening. How can Syrian citizens be fired upon when they are in Syria? Moreover Arab diplomacy must become more active, and the Arab States must act together as a group, not individuals, along with the Arab League, to communicate with the international community [about the situation in Syria]. All countries are concerned about what is happening in Syria, due to the sensitive regional position it occupies. The Syrian crisis is already internationalized, but this did not take. Egypt must also play as prominent a role as Turkey and Iran in confronting and resolving the situation in Syria.
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January 14th, 2012, 6:00 pm

 

785. zoo said:

The Arab League game
14/01/2012
By Abdul Rahman Al-Rashed ( General manager of Al Arabya TV)
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28097

We must understand that a game is being played by certain parties within the Arab League in order to cover up for the massacres that are taking place in Syria and prevent the al-Assed regime from being ousted. Therefore the team of Arab monitors being sent to observe the situation in Syria, and the mediation being initiated by Khaled Meshal of Hamas and Iran, represent nothing more than a game whose sole objective is to buy time for the al-Assad regime to kill more activists and save its own neck.

History is repeating itself. Today, the Arabs who want to save al-Assad’s regime from collapse are using a strategy that is based upon two concepts; preventing international intervention and granting al-Assad more time to kill or detain the political activists. This is the true story behind the rejection of international intervention, which deprives the Syrian people of their most basic human right, namely the right to save their lives, and is something that should not be denied, whatever the pretext. Unfortunately, Arab League Secretary-General [Nabil Elaraby] seems to believe his job is to prevent the Syrian people from being saved from the massacre they are facing, in addition to granting the al-Assad regime more time to carry out these massacres.

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January 14th, 2012, 6:09 pm

 

786. SANDRO LOEWE said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzvT8RFBf6k

In this video Kataeb Zabadani and Madaya give 24 hours to the Assad force to go back. If they do not do it, they promise to:

1-Destroy Barada water pipelines that supply Damascus
2-Destroy electricity main net that unites Syria with Lebanon
3-Destroy Syritel communication centres in theregion
4-Closing the main road to Lebanon

The question is: are they really capable of executing just one single point from the above list? If they did, conexion with HA would not be affected since they have other ways to enter easily but effects would damage seriously the image of the regime in the capital.

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January 14th, 2012, 6:10 pm

 

787. Tara said:

SL

I don’t know if they are capable of excuting any of the above but Assad needs to take Ahl Madaya’s and Zabadani’s threat seriously. My parents have a house in Halaya and I have had good exposure to the natives there. They have NO fear. They should not be underestimated.

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January 14th, 2012, 6:28 pm

 

788. zoo said:

More sharp criticism of the Arab league

The destroyed Arabs
By Tariq Alhomayed (mouthpiece of KSA)
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28092
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The fact of the matter is that the Arab League is not a pseudo-Arab organization, as al-Assad claimed, but rather it is an organization that has been destroyed, by saboteurs like al-Assad and other tyrants, and also by some within the Arab League itself, particularly those who are defending the Syrian leader, granting him one opportunity after another, in the same manner as they did with Saddam Hussein following the invasion of Kuwait. The Arab League is not a pseudo-Arab organization, rather it is an organization that unfortunately is full of Arabs whose Arabism has been destroyed!

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January 14th, 2012, 6:32 pm

 

789. Syrialover said:

Mina #778 At least Qatar’s Sheikh Hamad is condemning Arab people being mass killed by their own leaders. The Arab world would be looking even worse if he didn’t.

Though to me his IQ level and ethics are under suspicion for enabling the disgraceful leadership and performance of the Arab League observation mission in Syria.

Here’s an article about the Egyptian people (not their “leaders”) being warm and welcoming to Syrians, but it suggests that in contrast Beirut, Jordan and Turkey aren’t completely safe and nice havens for Syrians.

“Egypt beckons for Syrian exiles” -Financial Times 11 January 2012 Link: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7adf7a30-386c-11e1-9f07-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1jTkCf866

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January 14th, 2012, 6:39 pm

 

790. Tara said:

Russia’s evolving position on Syria

Because of their vested interests Russia has every reason to support the status quo, but only while President Assad remains a feasible option. However, with the death toll rising and the eventual fall of Assad — one way or another — seemingly an eventual inevitability Moscow is probably realizing that it may have to abandon its long-time friend. Hence, it has begun to hedge its bets.

To read more:http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=268571  

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January 14th, 2012, 6:41 pm

 

791. zoo said:

The USA starts to worry about its largest trading partner in SubSahara that supplies the USA a fifth of its oil.

Arab Spring sequel? Nigeria faces mass anti-government protests
Published: 13 January, 2012, 21:41
http://rt.com/news/nigeria-mass-protests-strike-723/print/

Nigeria: Protesters held anti-government banners calling President Goodluck Jonathan a ‘dictator’ and a ‘tyrant’ and demanding an end to corruption and poverty in the country.

Despite its oil resources, Nigeria, Africa’s most populous country, does not have a high standard of living. Half of its population of 160 million live on less than $2 a day. Following the increase in petrol prices, the cost of food and transportation has also skyrocketed, thus adding to people’s hardships.
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Given its vast oil reserves many protesters are puzzled by their poor economic situation and accuse the government of corruption and poor management.

Lawrence K Freeman, from the Executive Intelligence Review Magazine, told RT that Europe’s economy will face grave consequences if Nigeria stops exporting oil.

“The entire transatlantic financial system, especially the eurozone, is bankrupt. So you add the increasing price of oil from Nigeria’s two million barrels of oil pumped out each day and this could be the detonator for sinking the entire euro system.”
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January 14th, 2012, 7:07 pm

 

792. Ghat Al Bird said:

amir @777.

Here’s something from your kind of people to help make you puke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078771/Israel-braced-protests-treatment-women-girl-8-spat-Jewish-extremists.html

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January 14th, 2012, 7:15 pm

 

793. Tara said:

I hope that democracy is the solution of terrorism.  Killing the 53 people just because they are Shiaa (or XYZ for that matter) is beyond comprehension. 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/14/us-iraq-violence-idUSTRE80D0AU20120114

(Reuters) – A suicide bomber disguised as a policeman killed at least 53 people and wounded scores in an attack on Shi’ite Muslim pilgrims at a checkpoint on Saturday.
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January 14th, 2012, 7:19 pm

 

794. Ghufran said:

Bashar is now a liability for his own supporters and a bigger liability for most minorities who will pay a price for crimes they have not committed.
The lack for any political initiatives by the opposition to address the minorities fears is playing in the hands of the regime who also benefits from random violence and assassinations that often affect people who have nothing to do with the regime. The political idiocy we see today in Syria means more blood shed and more division among Syrians which will make it harder for any future government to govern and be listened to.

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January 14th, 2012, 8:12 pm

 

795. Syrialover said:

#798 Mina

Everything about Shiia-Sunni conflicts has ALWAYS been beyond comprehension.

For the past 12 centuries. And now in 2012 it’s become even more destructive and sinister with the turn of events in Iraq, Iran, Bahrain etc and possibly tragically Syria…

It’s like an inherited virus that thrives and mutates in the absence of freedom, rule of law and economic development.

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January 14th, 2012, 8:23 pm

 

796. Dale Andersen said:

Memo To: IRRITATED

RE: “…internet does not carry smell yet…”

But you’re working on it, aren’t you. Garlic Boy?

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January 14th, 2012, 9:11 pm

 

797. zoo said:

US trained Saudi Army in action

French, Saudi warplanes collide in Saudi
http://news.yahoo.com/french-saudi-warplanes-collide-saudi-204704933.html
A French Mirage and a Saudi F-15 collided in the kingdom’s northern region of Tabuk without causing casualties, state news agency SPA quoted a military official as saying on Saturday.

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Last May a Saudi F-15 crashed in the kingdom’s east and its pilot was killed. The aircraft had been on a “training mission” in the Eastern Province when it came down, the news agency said at the time.

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January 14th, 2012, 9:49 pm

 

798. irritated said:

#792 Dale Andersen

Thanks for your interest but I am not allowed to discuss new cyber products with Israeli citizens or sympathizers.

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January 14th, 2012, 9:51 pm

 

799. irritated said:

#791 Syria Lover

Protestant-Catholic hatred still resists to ‘democracy’ in Northern Ireland.
Democracy is not a cure for people whose DNA is imprinted by generations of hate.

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January 14th, 2012, 10:13 pm

 

800. Jerusalem said:

To
785. Syrialover said:

Mina #778 At least Qatar’s Sheikh Hamad is condemning Arab people being mass killed by their own leaders.

I didn’t read anywhere that Qatar is condoning Bahrain’s king or for this matter the recent killing in Kuwait that Jazeera didn’t bother reporting and when I wrote a comment about it, I was ejected from the blog. It’s laughable since they are so promoting democracy in Syria.
اقسم برب الكعبه كانت مظاهرتنا سلميه وكل ما طلبناه حقوقنا الانسانيه كبشر ولاشيئ غيرها
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-nQFNFnEEw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAJAgaL59wI

Same in Saudi Arabia
Saudi Activist ‘Shot Dead’ as David Cameron Flies in to Meet Regime. The question is why the double standards?

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January 14th, 2012, 10:53 pm

 

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