Israel Wins Twice

“Israel Wins Twice”

But the wins cancel each other out, alas.

Hamas’ leader Khalid Mashaal has agreed to recognize Israel and stop all resistance to the Jewish State if it accepts to return to its internationally recognized borders and comply with international law, permitting the two state solution in line with 1967 borders. Here is the story by Derhally:

Hamas Chief Says Resistance Stops at End of Israeli Occupation: Hamas would end its resistance if Israel retreated to the 1967 borders before the Six Day War and ended the occupation of Palestinian lands, the group’s political leader Khalid Mashaal said. (View the Charlie Rose show during which Mashaal say this)

The second win was the banner headline in Israel’s Ma’ariv which read: Netanyahu: “I Won”. The article stated:

Netanyahu is pleased by the fact that the Americans failed, so he said, to twist his arm and that ultimately, in the duel between him and the Obama administration, he was the one who emerged with the upper hand. We did not make concessions on our red lines and they failed to make us fold and to drag us to places we didn’t want to go, said Netanyahu, according to people who heard him speak.

By this Netanyahu means that the Obama administration will not unduly pressure Israel to comply with international law, the two state solution, and the cessation of settlement expansion. Khalid Mashaal’s concession will be meaningless. Of course, President Obama will continue to insist that US policy is the fulfillment of international law and the two state solution, but he will do precious little to enforce it. Why? Elections.

Ma’ariv quotes an unnamed source in Washington:

“The Democratic Party’s coffers are empty. Many Democrat members of Congress and Senators have complained that if the hazing of Israel were to continue, they would be unable to obtain donations from Jews and were liable to lose the elections,” ….

In 2002, when the Arab League states announced that they were prepared to recognize Israel and end all hostilities if it accepted UN resolution 242 and allow for a Palestinian state in the Palestinian land it occupied in 1967, Israel ignored it. Today, Israel will ignore Mashaal’s statement.

Addendum: See A Day in November by Uri Avnery. He asks: “What will happen the day after the elections?”

Optimists believe that on that morning, a new era will start. No further elections are planned before November 2012, when Obama’s first term expires. For an entire year, at least, he will be free to act.

That is a “window of opportunities”. A wide-open window. During this time Obama can realize his hope of bringing peace and retrieve the position of the US in the Middle East. As an added bonus, he will also be able to vent his accumulated fury against Netanyahu.

According to this forecast, in this one year, from the end of 2010 to the end of 2011, the final act of the drama will be enacted. Obama will present an American peace plan, the pressure on the Israeli government will intensify, Israel will finally have to choose between peace and territories, peace will at long last be on its way.

But there is also an opposite forecast: Obama will continue to disappoint, as he has disappointed until now. He will already be thinking about the next presidential election and continue to be afraid of AIPAC.

This forecast has a lot going for it. When I was very young, my father admonished me never, but never, to yield to blackmail. He who pays a blackmailer once will continue to pay to his last day. A blackmailer never lets go of his victim.

(In the course of my life I have tried to adhere to this advice. My technique is this: when somebody tries to blackmail me, threatening to do me some harm, I imagine that he has already done so. This way, the threat loses its sting.)

AIPAC is blackmailing Obama, and until now it has been successful. It will go on doing so after November. Obama should face up to the idea and decide: no more.

Will he have the courage to do so? I don’t know. I hope.

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101. ziad said:

I also agree with Annie. Over the last few months, there are more professional Zionist bloggers than Syrians on this website.

Professor Josh,

I do respect you and like your work but I feel the one month ban on Ghat is very extreme. I do not know Ghat and Ghat does not know me.

Israel, according to it government and people, is Jewish and for Jewish people only. They commit endless crimes under the name of self defense and protecting Jewish people. When the Arabs were saying that they are anti Zionism, Israelis equated that with anti Semitism and told us it is the same as being anti Jewish.

One of the most active Israeli participants today justified the killing because these non Jewish people did not listen to his IDF. I am quating: “I never condone the killing of any civilian, but we cannot ignore the fact that the organizers of this flotilla knew they were playing with fire the minute they chose to ignore the repeated warnings of the Israeli navy.” I call this a racist statement but no one banned him or even gave him a warning.

The Israeli participants on this blog call us all kind of different names including Muslim terrorists and the list goes on but I do not see anyone of them being banned and I really do not care if they do. I just ignore their messages and move on.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:00 pm

 

102. Shai said:

Alex,

You know my thoughts on this.

I am sorry that Israel chose to board that flotilla, and of course that civilians were killed as a result. Today is a black day for Israel, and one for which we may pay greatly.

I have no doubts whatsoever that the organizers of this “peace activist” flotilla were indeed one step ahead of Israel and, despite the painful price, are quite satisfied with the results. This may yet prove to be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Ziad,

Thank you for reaffirming your belief, that I am a racist. Your interpretation of what I said was chosen by you, but I do not support it.

To make it easier to understand, let me suggest the following:

If a flotilla of Jewish/Israeli human-rights activists were on their way to Latakia port, ignored repeated warnings by the Syrian Navy to stay away, and in the end a similar situation would occur (9 Jews die in a Syrian takeover), I would use the same words I did above, the ones that you quoted so well. I would NOT justify the killing. But I would bear certain responsibility with the Jewish flotilla. Now, if that’s to you still racism, then fine, I’m a racist.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:05 pm

 

103. Joshua said:

Ziad,
I do not like to ban people. But I also do not like the comment section of SC becoming a yelling match and race to the lowest common denominator.

i have banned a number of Pro-Israeli types, who were quite civil but disciplined hasbara machines that spat out the party line with wearying regularity and frequency, provoking readers just enough to dominate the comment section. Everyone lost interest for good reason. Nothing new was ever said. Discussion ceased. Flaming dominated.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:28 pm

 

104. ziad said:

Shai,

I called your statement a racist one. I never called you one. I still believe the statement itself is racist.

Your comparison are null and void for these reasons:
Latakia is a syrian city and not an occupied and deprived like Gaza.

The flotilla never entered Israeli waters and they never intended to do so.

We are at war with Israel so any ships coming from Israel will be treated like enemy ones. These ships came from friendly countries and were not going to Israel in the first place.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:30 pm

 

105. ziad said:

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2010/05/31/live-coverage-israels-flotilla-raid

Ehud Barak, the Israeli defence minister, has called US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and National Security Advisory James Jones on Monday to brief them on the assault.

A statement from Barak’s office said he had told them that the raid was in keeping with maritime law.

“The passengers on the Marmara beat our soldiers with every object they had and wounded some of them,” the statement quoted him as saying.

“The soldiers defended themselves.”

Oh Hillary, they had toothpicks. We just defended ourselves.

7.53pm: Oscar Fernandez-Taranco, the chief foreign policy official of the United Nations, asks Israel to end its “counterproductive” and “unacceptable” blockade on Gaza in the emergency UN Security Council meeting.

7:05pm: Mohammad Dahlan, a senior member of Fatah, just announced that the party will send a delegation to Gaza to meet with Hamas for reconciliation talks, and that the Palestinian Authority will push for a UN Security Council resolution on lifting the blockade of Gaza.

Hamas and Fatah have been bitterly at odds since Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, and months of recent reconciliation talks haven’t led anywhere. So a Fatah delegation to Gaza could be a significant step.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:46 pm

 

106. Shai said:

Ziad,

Thank you for clarifying. My example was not meant to be equated to Gaza, it was meant to demonstrate that I did not see non-Jews on the Turkish flotilla as deserving any different treatment than Jews would have, in a theoretical case somewhere else. I wanted to show, that there was no racism in my mind when I made that statement.

Look, I am against the blockade of Gaza, and have been against it from day one. I can’t speak to the legality of Israel’s stopping this flotilla en route to Gaza – that will be determined I imagine very soon (as will the blockade itself). But if the organizers of the flotilla knew that Israel would refuse their entry into Gaza, or even territorial waters under Israeli control, and that the Navy would take over their ships, and yet they planned to move ahead and resist with whatever means they had, then they did take a terrible chance that this could happen.

You want to absolve the IHH of any responsibility whatsoever for the safety of their passengers? Fine. It was indeed IDF bullets that killed those people. But the IHH did put them in harm’s way by sending them into a situation (legal or not) that was known in advance.

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May 31st, 2010, 6:48 pm

 

107. almasri said:

The video at this link mentions four points are being debated at UN as the elements of resolution to be voted upon by the council members,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/05/31/110099.html

1) Clear and unequivocal condemnation of Israel
2) Immediate lifting of the Gaza blockade
3) Investigation under UN
4) Immediate and unconditional freeing of the activists from Ashdod.

The video also mentioned a high level delegation from central committee of Fatah is on its way to Gaza for reconciliation with Hamas.

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May 31st, 2010, 7:08 pm

 

108. jad said:

Shai,
I’m going to remind you of one thing that you did call for many times on SC, do you remember when you called for Palestinians and Syrians to go out for a peaceful march from every corner of the occupied Arab lands in Palestine and the Jolan asking for freedom?
You were an advocate for such symbolic move yet now you are trying to analyze things differently than your earlier idea which is in principles not any difference from bringing food by international peace activist to the Auschwitz like prison with 1.5millions called Gaza that your government hold hostage and treating them like animal.
What changed? Why can’t you condemn what happened? You know very well that almost all of us, Syrians, are ready to condemn our government if they do the same as Alex wrote before.
do you really think that any of those activist deserve to die for what they are doing? or deserve to be faced by bullets, helicopters and a whole army for brining food???
I’m sorry to say that Shai, but your statement about this specific incident wasn’t as humane and as noble as it supposed to be. You did fell in the trap of ignoring your humanitarian side on this in your way of over analyzing an obvious crime, what your country did is a hideous and ugly crime.
I do hope that some good will come out of this tragedy and that those heroes who died wont be forgotten as many people before them.
Let’s see what the ‘fair’ ‘white’ ‘civilized’ ‘democratic’ world will do about this massacre? (Nothing I say)

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May 31st, 2010, 7:11 pm

 

109. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

I don’t remember this kind of a rage, when Israelis got dismantled into bleeding body-parts, when riding buses in Israel, on a daily basis. Some times a couple of times a day.

Not that I didn’t notice any rage, I did see on AlJezeera, people giving candies to celebrating drivers and pedestrians, who just at that moment heard there was another “successful” amali’ye, and were very very happy about it.

So Alex, it’s not a love for the IDF, but it’s a trust in the IDF. It weren’t the Arabs who volunteered to end this carnage by suicides, but it was the IDF that put an end to it.

Your rage is selective. A selective rage.

Today (believe it or don’t) I didn’t see or witnessed any gloating in the streets of Tel-Aviv. On the contrary. I did see gloomy faces and worried people.
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May 31st, 2010, 7:19 pm

 

110. norman said:

Hi guys ,

I just want to make it clear as i noticed that i was quoted many times , i did not mean Shai in particular , actually , I know you do not like that Almasri, shai is more caring than many but probably he is as shocked as we are and can not believe that his army would do that , he is just does not know what kind of army he got , probably was in the army long ago ,i meant in general that people who do not want to others what they would want for themselves are racists, no matter who they are ,

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May 31st, 2010, 7:19 pm

 

111. majedkhaldoun said:

Alex;
When someone call us antisemitic,this is equivalent to call us racist,if you ban the word racist,then you should ban the word antisemitic

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May 31st, 2010, 7:21 pm

 

112. almasri said:

From among all the Arab governments and people, tiny Kuwait which in 1991 was almost at war with arafat, is the most vocal both on government and popular levels even calling on King Abdullah of KSA to withdraw his so-called Arab peace initiative,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/05/31/110070.html

There were big demonstartions in Egypt. Needless to say they were carefully escorted by security forces. Even Azhar under the new head seems to have changed its tone with regards to the zionist criminals (compared with the previous head who shamelessly shook hands with them),

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/05/31/110069.html

OK Norman, it is quite diplomatic on your part to be apologetic on behalf of others. Honestly, SC cannot survive without your diplomatic skills. But I am always the bad cop.

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May 31st, 2010, 7:40 pm

 

113. why-discuss said:

Adam Shapiro, cofondateur du Mouvement de solidarité internationale, qui a participé à l’opération navale, revient sur l’assaut israélien.

Q – Comment s’est déroulé l’assaut israélien contre la flottille ?
R – Selon nos informations, Israël a lancé l’assaut autour de trois heures du matin, heure locale. Un millier de soldats ont été déployés, ainsi que des navires de guerre, des hélicoptères et des avions. L’assaut a d’abord été lancé contre le bateau turc de passagers (Mavi Marmara, NDLR) qui comptait quelque 600 personnes à son bord. Les soldats y ont été lâchés à partir d’un hélicoptère. Selon nos informations, les soldats ont commencé à ouvrir le feu dès qu’il ont touché le pont.

Ya-t-il eu des avertissements ?
Le seul avertissement lancé par les autorités israéliennes était de faire demi-tour.
Le général Ashkenazi a déclaré que des activistes étaient armés.
Les bateaux ont été méticuleusement inspectés avant de quitter leur port de départ. Ils ont obtenu le feu vert pour partir, donc aucune arme n’avait été trouvée à bord. D’après nos informations, certains passagers, après que les Israéliens ont ouvert le feu, ont tenté de se défendre avec des bâtons et des barres de fer. Maintenant, je n’étais pas personnellement sur le bateau, je ne peux rien confirmer à 100 %. Mais les vidéos ne montrent aucun militant armé. Et Israël n’a avancé aucune preuve que les militants étaient armés. Et c’est à Israël d’apporter une telle preuve si elle existe.

Vous attendiez-vous à une réaction israélienne d’une telle violence ?
Nous sommes des activistes expérimentés, nous n’en sommes pas à notre première mission sur mer ou sur terre. Nous savions que les Israéliens allaient tout faire pour nous arrêter. Nous savions que des armes mortelles pourraient être utilisées par les Israéliens. Mais cela nous semblait peu probable. Les autorités israéliennes avaient déclaré que les commandos d’élite seraient envoyés sur cette opération. Si les soldats qui ont participé à l’assaut sont effectivement des commandos d’élite, alors on ne peut que conclure que l’ordre de tirer leur a été donné, car ce type de soldat ne cafouille pas.
Avant l’assaut, Israël avait dénoncé la mission comme étant un acte de provocation et mis en doute son caractère légal.
La flottille a été arrêtée dans les eaux internationales. Nous étions encore loin des eaux israéliennes ou de Gaza. Et nous avions eu l’autorisation de naviguer de la part des ports de départ. Quand les Israéliens nous ont arrêtés, nous étions dans la légalité. Par ailleurs, Israël part de l’hypothèse que son blocus de Gaza est légal pour dire que notre mission ne l’est pas. Or les Nations unies, la Croix-Rouge et beaucoup d’autres organisations ont dit que le blocus de Gaza est illégal car ce blocus est une punition collective, ce qui est illégal selon le droit international.

De nombreuses voix se sont élevées, au sein de la communauté internationale, pour fermement condamner l’assaut israélien. Que pensez-vous de ces réactions ?
De cette tragédie, nous espérons que naîtra un début de prise de conscience de la part de la communauté internationale sur la réalité du Moyen-Orient, en ce sens qu’Israël se présente toujours comme la victime alors qu’il est l’agresseur. Aujourd’hui, le potentiel existe pour une intifada globale visant à soutenir les droits des Palestiniens et à condamner l’occupation brutale israélienne.

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May 31st, 2010, 8:33 pm

 

114. Alex said:

Majed

Two years ago we had a new commentator (AIG) who came here with his typical Israeli PR robot vocabulary .. eveyone was an anti semite.

I remember once he was upset that Naji called one right wing Israeli writer “ugly” because she wrote something advocating punishing the Palestinians Civilians harshly if they resist Israel . AIG bombarded my inbox that day to convince me that Naji is anti semetic!

How was that? … AIG said … because Jews have big noses and therefore if Naji called her ugly surely he believed all Jews are ugly, which is antisemetic.

Naji was not the only one AIG called an anti semite … everything I wrote was at first anti semitic, then AIG realized I’m an admin, so he reduced it to “borderline antisemetic”

Anyway … Joshua banned him eventually.

Let us not act like them … if you have to call someone a racist, it better be REALLY deserved… if that person consistently demonstrates his contempt or hate for Arabs.

Amir,

First, Syira in Lebanon … Lebanon did not threaten to invade Syria … but Lebanon (M14 led Lebanon) at the time was coordinating on a daily basis with US ambassador Jeff Feltman on how to isolate Syria. And Walid Jumblattt (in power at the time) threatened to assassinate President ASsad … he called on Washington to invade Syria, and he called for car bombs in Damascus.

As for the lack of rage here when there were terror acts against Israel

1) Remind me please … When was the lat time 10 Israeli civilians were car bombed?? .. that must have been long time ago because for the past 5 years all I remember is Israelis killing civilians.

2) When some small organization kills a few Israeli civilians there is no surprise because those organizations are called “terror organizations” already and they are condemned in every wester capital … etc

But Israel? .. the only democracy in the Middle East? ..the one that gets 3 billions per year in US aid? .. the one that complains about At=rabs not respecting Human rights ? … the one that tells the US and Canada “we share the same values”?

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May 31st, 2010, 9:59 pm

 

115. Akbar Palace said:

The Hasbara/”Peace Activist” Conundrum and, The Double Standard Continues

Your rage is selective. A selective rage.

Amir,

You’re right.

The PKK has been fighting for autonomy in Turkey’s largely Kurdish south-east for more than two decades. Some 40,000 people have been killed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10195996.stm

Alex, Professor Josh,

Here’s some more “hasbara”. Don’t stop at the pictures; click on the articles and video links as well.

BTW, your hebrew is getting better!

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA

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May 31st, 2010, 10:20 pm

 

116. norman said:

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I interviewed Adam Shapiro, board member of the Free Gaza Movement, hours after the attack on the Free Gaza Freedom Flotilla.

Listen Here – Transcript below.

Israeli forces have attacked a flotilla of ships carrying humanitarian aid to the besieged Gaza strip. Dubbed the Freedom Flotilla, the ships were aiming to break Israel’s 3-year blockade of Gaza. At least 15 people were killed and dozens injured when Israeli troops attacked the lead ship in the convoy-the Turkish “Mavi Marmara”-early Monday morning. The attack happened in international waters, 75 miles off the coast of Israel and Gaza. We reached Adam Shapiro in New York a few hours after the attack. He’s a board member of the Free Gaza movement, one of the groups that coordinated the Freedom Flotilla. His wife Huwaida Arraf is the chairperson of the Free Gaza movement and is on the flotilla.

Just before being kidnapped by Israel, Huwaida Arraf, Free Gaza Movement chairperson and delegation co-coordinator on this voyage, stated that: “No one could possibly believe that our small boat constitutes any sort of threat to Israel. We carry medical and reconstruction supplies, and children’s toys. Our passengers include a Nobel peace prize laureate and a former U.S. congressperson. Our boat was searched and received a security clearance by Cypriot Port Authorities before we departed, and at no time did we ever approach Israeli waters.”

More information on the Israeli attack:

Live coverage from Al Jazeera English

FreeGaza.org

Witness Gaza

Follow #flotilla, @JamalDajani, @avinunu on Twitter for the latest updates.

TRANSCRIPT

Amy Goodman: This is Democracy Now!, I’m Amy Goodman. We have on the line with us Adam Shapiro. He is a board member of the Free Gaza Movement. Adam, we got word several hours ago that the Israeli military had attacked the Free Gaza Flotilla. We are speaking to you at about 3:30 AM Eastern Standard Time. Can you tell us what you understand has happened?

Adam Shapiro: The Israelis launched a military operation involving about a thousand soldiers, using ships, using helicopters, and using airplanes to attack the flotilla of six ships – three passenger and three cargo ships, at approximately between 8 and 9 pm Eastern Standard Time. All the ships have been captured. One of the ships that we know for sure, which had a satellite communication ability, the large Turkish ship with about 600 passengers including members of Parliament from different countries, was attacked by Israeli soldiers using live ammunition. We now know that at least 14 people have been confirmed killed, and perhaps as many as 20 killed, with over 60 injured, and currently all the ships are being brought into the Israeli port of Haifa.

Amy Goodman: We are reading Israeli military reports that say when they boarded the Turkish ship, that they were attacked by sticks and knives. What do you understand has happened?

Adam Shapiro: Our people on the ship reported live as the soldiers came onto the ship, and reported that soldiers were opening fire as they were coming onto the ship, and they were descending from helicopters. So, our understanding is that the Israeli soldiers opened fire first. I have not seen or heard any thing else about – and there are many journalists on board that ship – anything else about our people, the passengers on that ship, posing any kind of threat. There was a live feed coming from the ship using satellite, video satellite, on satellite, that has been rebroadcast on CNN, on CNN Turk, on Al Jazeera, on Press TV, on numerous media outlets, not one image from this entire footage shows any of the passengers holding any kind of object that could be construed as a weapon. So, I mean, I am sure that the Israelis would like the world to believe that they were the ones being attacked as they assaulted these ships, but this is just Israeli spin.

Amy Goodman: Adam Shapiro, what is the purpose of the Free Gaza Flotilla?

Adam Shapiro: The purpose of the Free Gaza Freedom Flotilla was to literally break the Israeli blockade that it is imposing on Gaza, a form of collective punishment of 1.5 million Palestinians who are trying to survive at this point, basically, especially after the Israeli attacks in December, 2008-January, 2009, in which much of Gaza was reduced to rubble, and has not been able to have been rebuilt, where Palestinians can’t get basic food and medicine in, to just survive with. And so, this effort was, yes, to deliver the goods and materials that Gaza, the Palestinians in Gaza need, but also to awaken the international community to the abuse that the Palestinians are suffering that has been regarded by the Goldstone Report, by many other reports and by human rights organizations, including the E.U. and other groups, calling this blockade and this siege criminal, as well as cruel and inhuman.

Amy Goodman: What is your response to what has happened in these last hours, to the Israeli military assault on the Free Gaza Flotilla?

Adam Shapiro: We have always been prepared that the Israelis might attack the ships and try, obviously, try to take control of them, and prevent us from reaching Gaza, but the opening of fire against unarmed civilians who pose no threat to Israel, is something, I think, it is absurd in a way that can’t even be described. We all remember what happened to Rachel Corrie in Gaza, standing in front of a home to protect it and being crushed and run over by a bulldozer driver. In this case, I think in a way, it is almost even worse, because Israel said that they were sending their best commandos on this mission, that they were sending their most professional soldiers, and so if these are their professional soldiers, and they opened fire, then we must assume, then, and I don’t think we are incorrect to assume, that they had orders to open fire, because I don’t think that soldiers operating in this way, if they were truly professional, and they were truly the best, well-trained commandos that Israel had, they would have no reason to shoot, unless they were ordered to do so.

And I really hope that the United States, the Europeans, and Turkey, and the other governments who had citizens on board press for an independent investigation, not an Israeli investigation, an independent investigation. This attack took place in international waters, not in Israeli waters.

Amy Goodman: Who was on the Turkish ship?

Adam Shapiro: On board the Turkish ship were over, approximately about 600 passengers. We had quite a large number of Turkish activists. Of course, the boat was secured in Turkey, and purchased by a Turkish organization, so many of their people were on board. We also had members of the European Parliament on board, we had members of Arab parliaments on board, including Egypt and Jordan, we had others activists who have been active in trying to raise the awareness of what’s happening to Palestinians in general and specifically in Gaza, and we had media. We had Al Jazeera on board, we had a couple of Turkish broadcasting channels on board, as well as other print and other forms of media on board.

Amy Goodman: Adam Shapiro, thank you for taking the time to talk to us.

Adam Shapiro: Thank you very much.

Amy Goodman: Adam Shapiro is a board member of the Free Gaza Movement.

Follow Amy Goodman on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/democracynow

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May 31st, 2010, 10:41 pm

 

117. almasri said:

Majed,

Your earlier question is now answered. The US is now officially a State-sponsor and supporter of state-terrorism and international piracy according to this report,

واشنطن تعيق إدانة مجزرة الأسطول

مجلس الأمن عقد جلسة مفتوحة أعقبتها مداولات مغلقة (الأوروبية)

قال مراسل الجزيرة في مقر الأمم المتحدة إن الوفد الأميركي بمجلس الأمن الدولي عطل إدانة الهجوم الإسرائيلي على سفن أسطول الحرية الذي كان يحمل مساعدات إنسانية إلى قطاع غزة.

وأضاف المراسل أن الولايات المتحدة عطلت مشروع البيان الرئاسي الذي تقدمت به تركيا بدعم عربي إلى مجلس الأمن بشأن الهجوم الإسرائيلي ورفضت إدانة إسرائيل، وعطلت مطالبة البيان بتحقيق مستقل في الهجوم خلال ثلاثين يوما.

وكانت تركيا قد وافقت على تخفيف لغة البيان ليكتفي بالإعراب عن الأسف للأرواح التي فقدت خلال الهجوم الإسرائيلي، كما تخلت عن مطالبة الأمم المتحدة بالتحقيق في الحادث.

وفي وقت سابق أجمعت بيانات أصدرها أعضاء المجلس قبل الجلسة على إدانة الهجوم الإسرائيلي والمطالبة برفع الحصار عن قطاع غزة. وقد كانت الجلسة مفتوحة لمدة ساعة ونصف، ثم أغلقت لمناقشة مشروع البيان.

ووصف مندوب مصر لدى الأمم المتحدة ماجد عبد الفتاح الذي كان يتحدث باسم حركة عدم الانحياز التي ترأسها بلاده، الهجوم الإسرائيلي بأنه “غير مبرر” وأنه “انتهاك صارخ للقانون الدولي”.

وطالب المندوب المصري في تصريح للصحفيين بنيويورك، إسرائيل بالإفراج فورا عن الركاب الذين كانوا على متن الأسطول والمحتجزين لديها وتعيدهم إلى أوطانهم، كما دعا إلى إجراء تحقيق “مستقل ونزيه” في الهجوم الإسرائيلي.

أوباما قال إن من الضروري معرفة
كل الحقائق عن الهجوم (رويترز)
توضيحات لأميركا
من جهته عبر الرئيس الأميركي باراك أوباما في مكالمة هاتفية مع رئيس الوزراء الإسرائيلي بنيامين نتنياهو عن أسفه العميق لسقوط قتلى في الهجوم.

وقال البيت الأبيض في بيان مقتضب إن أوباما عبر لنتنياهو عن ضرورة معرفة كل الحقائق والمعلومات عن هذا الهجوم في أقرب وقت ممكن.

وفي السياق أوضح وزير الدفاع الإسرائيلي إيهود باراك في مكالمة هاتفية مع وزيرة الخارجية الأميركية هيلاري كلينتون ومستشار الأمن القومي الأميركي جيمس جونز، ملابسات الهجوم.

وأكد بيان صادر عن مكتب باراك أنه اعتبر أن الهجوم الإسرائيلي على سفن الأسطول -والذي تم في المياه الدولية- ليس فيه أي خرق للقانون الدولي والقوانين البحرية.

واتهم البيان المتضامنين على متن إحدى سفن الأسطول بأنهم هاجموا الجنود الإسرائيليين بكل ما كانوا يملكون من أدوات وجرحوا بعضهم، وقال إن الجنود دافعوا عن أنفسهم.

وبدوره قال نتنياهو إن الجنود الإسرائيليين صعدوا إلى إحدى السفن من أجل التأكد من خلوها من السلاح، لكن ناشطين هاجموهم بالسكاكين والهري، حسب زعمه. وتابع “لقد ضربوهم وطعنوهم، وهناك تقرير حتى عن استخدام سلاح ناري”.

أردوغان وصف الهجوم الإسرائيلي
بأنه “إرهاب دولة” (الفرنسية)
إرهاب دولة
وفي وقت سابق من يوم أمس وصف رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب أردوغان الهجوم الإسرائيلي على أسطول الحرية بأنه “إرهاب دولة”، وأكد وقوف بلاده إلى جانب المحاصرين في قطاع غزة.

وقال أردوغان في اتصال هاتفي مع قناة التركية العربية من تشيلي التي كان في زيارة رسمية لها قبل أن يقطعها ويعود إلى بلاده، إن القضية تدار من داخل تركيا أولا بأول، وإن هناك سلسلة من الاتصالات تجري بين أنقرة وعدد من الدول، بما فيها اتصال جرى مع الرئيس الفلسطيني محمود عباس.

ورفض المبررات التي سوغت بها إسرائيل مهاجمة قواتها لسفن الأسطول، وقال “أريد أن أقول للعالم ولرؤساء الدول والحكومات إن هذه السفن التي انطلقت من تركيا ومن دول أخرى تم تفتيشها بطريقة صحيحة وفقا لقوانين الملاحة الدولية، وقد كانت محملة بمساعدات إنسانية فقط، ولم يكن على متنها سوى متطوعين مدنيين”.

تنديد دولي
وقد لقي الهجوم الإسرائيلي تنديدا دوليا واسعا، حيث دعت المفوضة العليا للأمن والسياسة الخارجية للاتحاد الأوروبي كاثرين أشتون إسرائيل إلى إجراء تحقيق كامل في القضية، كما عقد سفراء الدول الأعضاء بالاتحاد اجتماعا طارئا لبحث الموقف.

وفي برلين أبلغت المستشارة الألمانية أنجيلا ميركل رئيسي وزراء إسرائيل وتركيا “قلقها الشديد” للهجوم على “أسطول الحرية”.

وصدرت إدانات للهجوم من الصين وروسيا، وأعرب بيان لوزارة الخارجية في موسكو عن “إدانتها وقلقها”، واعتبرت استخدام القوة المسلحة ضد المدنيين واحتجاز سفن في البحر المفتوح بدون مسوغ قانوني “انتهاكا واضحا للقانون الدولي”.

أما وزير الخارجية البرازيلي سيلسو أموريم فقد أدان بدوره الهجوم، وقال إن من كانوا على سفن الأسطول “أناس عزل ومسالمون ولم يكونوا يشكلون أي خطر”.

وأصدرت مفوضية الاتحاد الأفريقي بدورها بيانا عبرت فيه عن صدمتها العميقة بسبب الهجوم الدامي على قافلة المساعدات الإنسانية، وطالبت بالتحقيق لتحديد المسؤول عنه.

وكانت كل من اليونان والسويد وفرنسا والنمسا وإسبانيا التي تترأس الاتحاد الأوروبي، قد استدعت سفراء إسرائيل المعتمدين لديها لتقديم إيضاحات بشأن التصرف الإسرائيلي.

المصدر: الجزيرة + وكالات

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May 31st, 2010, 10:54 pm

 

118. Husam said:

Alex, Joshua:

SC has been selective in its moderation. And, please don’t try to hide this fact. AP has bombarded SC with repetitive B.S. day in day out, and despite the majority of contributors here calling on both of you to do something about it, instead you chose to ban Ghat. Why “only” Ghat and why now?

I wrote 2 weeks ago regarding blasphemy, it fell on deaf ears.

Fares said:

“Keep dreaming and praying for god to shit out a country called Palestine.. ”

So you allowed this comment (#236598) to appear and did nothing when it was brought to your attention. So God takes dumps…and his bowel movement is Palestine…meaning Palestinians are Kaka. This racism a la max with graphics and blasphemy all in one.

Why don’t you ban Fares for one month or two?

What I am asking is: What’s your formula? I can’t seem to figure it out.

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May 31st, 2010, 10:58 pm

 

119. almasri said:

Excellent article for Arabs,

http://www.alarabiya.net/views/2010/06/01/110102.html

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May 31st, 2010, 11:11 pm

 

120. Alex said:

Husam

I was not here last week, I was busy taking care of few things at onemideast.org

Can you get me the link to this comment you are referring to? .. I will remove it.

“Fares” will be banned if he writes in this style again.

But I don’t think Joshua is being selective. He asked Ghat many times to try to change his focus.

We have two representatives of right wing Israel .. Amir and Akbar … They represent the views of the majority in Israel, we can not ban them if we do not like their opinions. What kind of discussion would you get if everyone here agrees on everything?

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May 31st, 2010, 11:17 pm

 

121. Husam said:

Alex:

Joshua said:

“Ziad, I do not like to ban people. But I also do not like the comment section of SC becoming a yelling match and race to the lowest common denominator. i have banned a number of Pro-Israeli types, who were quite civil but disciplined hasbara machines that spat out the party line with wearying regularity and frequency, provoking readers just enough to dominate the comment section. Everyone lost interest for good reason. Nothing new was ever said. Discussion ceased. Flaming dominated.”

Alex, again what is the formula? It has nothing to do with opinion of right wing Israelis, professional paid bloggers if I may add, whom you are advocating we need and everything to do with “repetitiveness” and race as lowest of low as per Joshua. Neither Amir’s nor Almasri’s hands are clean about racism…So why ONLY Ghat? I don’t want to hear about 2 years ago…Perhaps Josh can speak for himself on that.

Here is the link you asked for:

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=6436&cp=all#comment-236598

P.S. I don’t agree with what Shai said today and a discussion was warranted in a respectable fashion between Shai and others. I understand you need diversity of opinions, but we shouldn’t pay the price of sifting through B.S. regardless of whom its coming from. EIther you let it all in or you ban it….it can not be selective.

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May 31st, 2010, 11:58 pm

 

122. Shai said:

Jad, Norman,

I absolutely and unequivocally condemn the Israeli raid on the Turkish Flotilla. I’m sorry if that message did not come clearer through my earlier comments.

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June 1st, 2010, 12:21 am

 

123. jad said:

Shai,
Thank you for being who you are, a respectful Israeli.
I want you to know that I wasn’t chalengimg you, my point was to show that even the peace advocate camp are pushed aside and they become selecrive in the word they use, this is why I asked you What changed?
I beleive that if we want to change this ugly reality we live in, we can’t let those who speakes the language of hate and war to become louder than the language of humanity, we must be loud and clear in our disagreement with those who spread evil and distruction among us otherwise we are doing nothing.
Please Shai, don’t compromise what you believe in for anyone and anything, the price is too high, it’s our humanity and our children’s future.
Thank you.

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June 1st, 2010, 2:09 am

 

124. Joshua said:

Husam,

You write to say that I am not fair in banning Ghat alone. “Neither Amir’s nor Almasri’s hands are clean about racism…So why ONLY Ghat? I don’t want to hear about 2 years ago…Perhaps Josh can speak for himself on that.”

You are correct that I have been arbitrary. I should also have banned almasri and Amir, as well as Fares, as you point out. I will try to pay greater attention. They will also be asked to leave the comment section if they persist in the name calling and repetitive provocations that diminish the comment section.

I wish I had more hours in my day to devote to moderating the comment section. My family left for Syria yesterday and I am trying to write other things than SC. I wish I could rely on everyone here to temper their anger and rein in their passions, even when they are being intentionally provoked.

Let us simply try to remain informative, by bringing new content to the forum.

I apologize for the inconsistencies in my moderation.

Sincerely, Joshua

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June 1st, 2010, 9:20 am

 

125. Husam said:

Norman, Jad, WD:

Shai by far is the most level-headed person I know who also happens to be an Israeli. I would love to meet this guy one day…somewhere in the Golan area and have some tea.

Cheers

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June 1st, 2010, 3:40 pm

 

126. Husam said:

Josh:

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I understand that you wear too many hats and you time is limited. My intention was to have fair play and equality for everyone.

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June 1st, 2010, 3:44 pm

 

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