Netanyahu: “We will oppose an imposed solution”

The Obama Peace Plan trial balloon has set off an all points push bacj in Israel. (Many thanks to Didi Remez at Coteret blog for passing on helpful quotes – Mercitain.)

1. Op-ed by Netanyahu mouthpiece Ari Shavit telling Obama to layoff on Palestinians and refocus on Syria. (copied below)

2. English language news reports: Haaretz and JPost.

Netanyahu: “We will oppose an imposed solution”

Dennis Ross “believes the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians have a slim chance of succeeding and that the focus should be on building the PA’s institutions from the bottom up, the source said.” This is the same view as Elliott Abram

Golan, not Jerusalem, is key to Mideast peace
By Ari Shavit, Haaretz Correspondent

The solution to the Jerusalem problem is widely known: The Jewish neighborhoods stay in Israel, the Arab ones are given to Palestine and the Holy Basin becomes part of a special regime. The solution to the refugee problem is also commonly known: Palestinians’ right of return will apply to the territory of the Palestinian state, while such claims will not apply to the territory of the Jewish state. Just as well known is the solution to the settlement problem: Territory swaps and annexing large settlement blocs to Israel, and the eviction of isolated settlements.

All of these solutions easily ensure that a demilitarized Palestinian state will live peacefully next to the Jewish nation state. And will allow us to move, within a year or two, from an era of conflict to an era of peace.

But here’s the rub: None of these popular, simple solutions can be implemented in the foreseeable future. As of today, the Palestinians are not agreeing to a demilitarized Palestine or a Jewish Israel, nor are they willing to renounce their claim to return to sovereign Israel. Israel, for its part, does not have a state institution powerful enough to evict 100 settlements with their 100,000 residents. And neither Israel nor Palestine possess the maturity and responsibility necessary to run a delicate coexistence regime over Jerusalem, the world’s most dangerous city.

The conclusion is obvious. Although everyone apparently knows how the agreement to partition the country will look, there is little chance it will be signed or implemented in the coming years. It’s no surprise that Ehud Olmert and Tzipi Livni failed to accomplish much during their year of talks with Mahmoud Abbas and Ahmed Qureia. It’s also no surprise that the Palestinians are refusing to hold direct negotiations with Israel, and that Israel does nothing to evict illegal outposts.

The notion that peace is within reach is a falsehood, something both sides are simply telling the rest of the world in order to conceal their respective hidden agendas. The Palestinians feel history is working in their favor, and are not ready to compromise. The Israelis, meanwhile, are paralyzed. Both talk peace and play at peace, but neither are willing to pay the price of peace.

In the second half of 2010, the United States intends to pull half of its forces out of Iraq; it also seeks to end the war in Afghanistan some time in 2011. In between, it will have to deal with Iran. To succeed in these three gigantic missions, the United States is trying to appeal to the Arab Muslim world. It’s working to show that it is as attentive to 330 million Arabs as it is to 13 million Jews. As such, Washington is tempted to believe in the impossible: pleasing Islam by quickly closing the file on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

This temptation is a lethal one. The United States can push Israel, but not the Palestinians. Trying to force the parties into a false, quick peace will end either in an explosion or in a dangerous, biased agreement. Either way, the result will be the opposite of that sought by the Americans. Breaking Israel’s back and instigating a series of ongoing crises in Jerusalem will destabilize the Middle East; sooner or later, it will bring about a renewal of violence. The war that will eventually erupt will not be a local one, but a regional war with a religious dimension.

The Obama administration has but one way out: Syria. Only an Israeli-Syrian peace agreement can balance out the Middle East. Only an Israeli-Syrian peace deal will help Iraq, isolate Iran and indirectly contribute to the cause in Afghanistan. Only such an agreement can create the time frame necessary to guarantee slow but certain progress on the Palestinian track.

So instead of demanding that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivers Jerusalem, Washington should demand that he delivers the Golan Heights. U.S. President Barack Obama must throw all his weight behind a peace agreement in the north. Israeli-Syrian reconciliation is the only realistic way to bring peace to the Middle East as early as this year, and to justify the Nobel Peace Prize presented to Obama in December.

Shlomo Cezana and Boaz Bismuth, Israel Hayom April 8 2010 [page 7]

Officials in Jerusalem rejected the possibility that the Obama administration might present an American peace plan and try to impose it on the parties, as the Washington Post reported. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said last night that he would oppose any attempt to impose a solution on Israel. “It won’t work,” Netanyahu said to his aides. “Thus far, the administration’s approach has been that he assists, and doesn’t impose, and that indeed is the correct approach.”

The Washington Post quoted senior US administration officials who said that President Obama was seriously considering announcing in the autumn a new American peace plan for the Middle East that would be based on the Clinton plan with certain changes. “Everyone knows the basic outlines of a peace deal,” one senior official was quoted as saying, while a second official said that “90 percent of the map would look the same.”

“The salient characteristic of this past year has been the rise of radical Islam and its armament,” said Netanyahu yesterday in response to accusations as if his policies were responsible for the diplomatic deadlock in the region. Netanyahu diligently refrained from casting blame either on Obama or on prominent European leaders, but that seemed to be his implied intention when he said: “The world has to decide whether it is fighting against the phenomenon of radical Islam or whether it is adapting to it. That has ramifications on the peace process.”

Netanyahu made his statements at a press conference he held in Jerusalem to sum up the first year of his term in office. “This march by radical Islam hasn’t been stopped until now. There are some people who cast responsibility for that on Israel, but anyone who examines the matter in depth knows that that is not the case. The Palestinians, with the support of others, have refused to engage in the peace process.”

Regarding construction in Jerusalem, Netanyahu said it was important to “keep perspective. This isn’t my policy but that of all Israeli governments.” He said that it wasn’t the policy that had changed but “the government in the United States has changed. I won’t say that there aren’t differences of opinion. There are some things that we agree about and some that we don’t.”

Netanyahu said he regretted the attacks that were made by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan against Israel, describing them as a “regrettable phenomenon that does not serve the stability of relations or their promotion in our region.”

Netanyahu said that the efforts to bring about the release of Gilad Shalit were still under way. “We brought in a new mediator who made an offer, and we were prepared to go a long way to bring Gilad back home. We requested that this not place Israelis’ lives at too much risk. We have yet to receive an answer from Hamas up until this very day.”

Netanyahu warned the terror organizations in the Gaza Strip that the force of Israeli retaliation would be commensurate “with our regular policy to respond forcefully to every attack on us.”

Maariv page 9 adds:

Israeli officials responded with surprise to the reports. “The American approach being led by Obama is a naïve approach that was tried in the past and which failed, and anyone who talks in terms of timetables or an imposed solution is displaying an absence good judgment and the loss of a level head,” said one high-ranking political official. He said, “anyone who tries to ride the Iranian excuse is going to fail. The coalition against Iran is a primary interest of all the Sunni countries in the region which want to stop Iran at any price, irrespective of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon criticized the initiative, and said: “We ought to underscore that it is utterly unreasonable that any international agent might try to impose a solution on the parties. There are no ready-made shelf peace plans, and every agreement needs to be based on direct negotiations between the parties. There is no ‘one fell swoop and we’re done’ when it comes to peace as well.”

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51. Husam said:

Turstquest:

I would urge readers of your link to huggingpost.com news article read the comments as well. Mr. Hussain A. Hussain is baised and seems that me he is writing to discredit a historical ‘first’ where all Arabs agree on something.

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April 12th, 2010, 2:46 pm

 

52. Husam said:

Can anyone prove without doubt, by providing conclusive evidence, that the bombings, terror activities in the M.E. are not ignited by Mossad or other Agencies?

I mean any organization with the means, the skills, and the will can go into a bank and plant fingerprints of his rival gang to make belief that the heist was none other than someone known to police, while the actual thief gets away with millions and locking up others.

The same can be true in Iraq and Aghganistan. Is it plausible that that explosive materials known to be of Iranian origin can be used to blow up a Sunni Mosque or a Sunni district leading Sunnis to conclude this was the works of Shia when in fact it was done by a third party!?

Perhaps this may “partly” explain the sectarian violence phenomena. Some may ask what about body parts of the the suicide bomber (when one exist)? Today many hopeless people can be psychologically profiled, manipulated, brain-washed, given high-tech drugs, and micro-chiped to carry out a mission. I believe if the technology existed 50 years ago, it certainly is more likely and more robust today for covert operations falsely using the well known “in the name of Islam and 72 Virgins hoax” to induce a type of robot like behavior. History has shown with many declassified documents that many such underground military labs were and continue to be operational.

The story in the M.E., in my personal opinion, may not be exactly what it seems, even to the minds of bloggers like us. There are evil actions being commited for us sheep beyond imagination.

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April 12th, 2010, 3:25 pm

 

53. Husam said:

Here is some back up for my previous post:

In 1994 Ronald K. Siegel, a Associate Research Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences at UCLA, wrote Whispers: The Voices of Paranoia.4 Dr. Siegel, an expert on hallucinations, edited a book on this subject in 1975 with Louis Jolyn West of MKULTRA fame.5

MKULTRA, as well as projects BLUEBIRD, ARTI-CHOKE, CHATTER, CASTI-GATE, MKDELTA, MKNAOMI, THIRD CHANCE, MKSEARCH, MKOFTEN, etc., were covert CIA projects involving many prominent members and institutions of the medical and scientific communities to investigate and experiment with various forms of behaviour modification and control using, in many cases, unwitting human subjects. In operation from the late 1940’s until the early 1970’s, they delved into everything from drugs to hypnosis to electronics.6

Whispers is a collection of case histories of mind control, (or paranoia as he calls it) studied by Siegel. One case concerned a man named Tolman who believed his mind was being controlled by computers via a satellite system named POSSE (Personal Orbiting Satellite for Surveillance and Enforcement). Interestingly, author Dorothy Burdick, in her 1982 book Such Things Are Known described what she claimed was her mind control harassment by computers via satellites. She names Siegel as being the inventor of a device named FOCUS (Flexible Optical Control Unit Simulator) which can project hallucinations directly onto the retina so the subjects can’t distinguish the images from reality.7 In Siegel’s book Tolman claims images are being directly transmitted into his brain. Siegel says, You mean to tell me that here are machines capable of sending visual images directly into the brain?.8

In 1968 Siegel published a professional paper titled A Device for Chronically Controlled Visual Input which is a description of a device he developed to project images directly into the brain of experimental animals via the optic nerve. He suggests further experimentation be conducted on neonates (kittens) which have their total visual stimulation controlled from the time they open their eyes.9

Thirty years later a team of US scientists wired a computer to a cat’s brain and created videos of what the cat was seeing. One of the scientists working on the project, Garret Stanley of Harvard University, predicts machines with brain interfaces. We can only imagine how far such technology has advanced in the secret research laboratories of the US government and the military/industrial complex.

Edward Tilton, President of Silent Sounds Inc., says this about S-quad in a letter dated 13 December, 1996:

All schematics, however, have been classified by the US Government and we are not allowed to reveal the exact details we make tapes and CDs for the German Government, even the former Soviet Union countries! All with the permission of the US State Department, of course The system was used throughout Operation Desert Storm (IRAQ) quite successfully.

By using these computer-enhanced EEGs, scientists can identify and isolate the brain’s low-amplitude emotion signature clusters, synthesise them and store them on another computer. In other words, by studying the subtle characteristic brainwave patterns that occur when a subject experiences a particular emotion, scientists have been able to identify the concomitant brainwave pattern and can now duplicate it. These clusters are then placed on the Silent Sound carrier frequencies and will silently trigger the occurrence of the same basic emotion in another human being!

McVeigh: Manchurian Candidate?

Among the many telemetry instruments being used today, are miniature radio transmitters that can be swallowed, carried externally, or surgically implanted…. They permit the simultaneous study of behaviour and physiological functioning.
Dr. Stuart Mackay, Bio-Medical Telemetry (textbook), 1968
While visiting friends in Decker, Michigan, Timothy McVeigh complained that the Army had implanted him with a microchip, a miniature subcutaneous transponder, so that they could keep track of him. He complained that it left an unexplained scar on his buttocks and was painful to sit on. McVeigh was convicted of the 1995 bombing of a US Government building in Oklahoma City.

Miniaturised telemetrics have been part of an ongoing project by the military and the various intelligence agencies to test the effectiveness of tracking soldiers on the battlefield. The miniature implantable telemetric device was declassified long ago.

According to Dr. Carl Sanders, the developer of the Intelligence Manned Interface (IMI) biochip, We used this with military personnel in the Iraq War where they were actually tracked using this particular type of device.

It is also interesting to note that the Calspan Advanced Technology Centre in Buffalo, NY (Calspan ATC), where McVeigh worked, is engaged in microscopic electronic engineering of the kind applicable to telemetrics. Calspan was founded in 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory, which included the Fund for the Study of Human Ecology, a CIA financing conduit for mind control experiments by emigre Nazi scientists and others under the direction of CIA doctors Sidney Gottlieb, Ewen Cameron, and Louis Jolyn West.

According to mind control researcher Alex Constantine, Calspan places much research emphasis on bioengineering and artificial intelligence (Calspan pioneered the field in the 1950s). In his article, The Good Soldier, Constantine states:

Human tracking and monitoring technology are well within Calspan’s sphere of pursuits. The company is instrumental in REDCAP, an Air Force electronic warfare system that winds through every Department of Defense facility in the country. A Pentagon release explains that REDCAP is used to evaluate the effectiveness of electronic-combat hardware, techniques, tactics and concepts. The system includes closed-loop radar and data links at RF manned data fusion and weapons control posts. One Patriot computer news board reported that a disembodied, rumbling, low-frequency hum had been heard across the country the week of the [Oklahoma] bombing. Past hums in Taos, New Mexico, Eugene and Medford, Oregon, Timmons, Ontario and Bristol, England were most definitely (despite specious official denials) attuned to the brain’s auditory pathways.

The Air Force is among Calspan’s leading clients, and Eglin AFB has farmed key personnel to the company. The grating irony recalling McVeigh’s contention he’d been implanted with a telemetry chip is that the Instrumentation Technology Branch of Eglin Air Force Base is currently engaged in the tracking of mammals with subminiature telemetry devices. According to an Air Force press release, the biotelemetry chip transmits on the upper S-band (2318 to 2398 MHz), with up to 120 digital channels.
There is nothing secret about the biotelemetry chip. Ads for commercial versions of the device have appeared in national publications. Time magazine ran an ad for an implantable pet transponder in its 26 June, 1995 issue ironically enough opposite an article about a militia leader who was warning about the coming New World Order. While monitoring animals has been an unclassified scientific pursuit for decades, the monitoring of humans has been a highly classified project that is but a subset of the Pentagon’s nonlethal arsenal. As Constantine notes, the dystopian implications were explored by Defense News for 20 March, 1995

God knows what is the capability fast forward to 2010!

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April 12th, 2010, 3:35 pm

 

54. Akbar Palace said:

Mind Control NewZ

Can anyone prove without doubt, by providing conclusive evidence, that the bombings, terror activities in the M.E. are not ignited by Mossad or other Agencies?

I mean any organization with the means, the skills, and the will can go into a bank and plant fingerprints of his rival gang to make belief that the heist was none other than someone known to police, while the actual thief gets away with millions and locking up others.

The same can be true in Iraq and Aghganistan.

Husam,

I don’t think anyone can prove the Mossad has been involved in “bombings and terror activities” to the extent the Islamic/jihadist organizations have. All one has to do is see who claimed RESPONSIBILITY for some of these “terror activities”.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/03/2010331171748201274.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/28/national/main6030616.shtml

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/10/27/iraq.al.qaeda/

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/al-qaida-group-islamic-state-of-iraq-claims-iraq-suicide-bombings/19432878

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2007/5/islamterror159.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8233265.stm

BTW – Does Saddam Hussein and the Asads count?

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April 12th, 2010, 3:50 pm

 

55. Ghat Albird said:

This could be an interesting read for Dr. Landis and others.

Moshe Ya’alon is attending the Obama summit on nuclear strategy in Washington to day and tomorrow.

Netanyahu Adviser Ya’alon: ‘I Do Not Accept’ Any Withdrawal From Settlements

An interview published in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot, Moshe
Ya’alon — Israel’s Vice Prime Minister, Minister of Strategic Affairs, and a close
adviser of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu — reveals that the lame efforts
to resume the negotiations with the Palestinians are just “maneuvers” by the
Netanyahu administration.

Ya’alon’s comments explain that the gestures made by Netanyahu — from the
qualified endorsement of the two-state solution to the decision to partially and
temporarily freeze construction in the settlements — are all strategically
intended to allow for greater settlement expansion in the future.

“And I say so out of knowledge,” Ya’alon told Yediot. “Nobody in the forum of
seven [senior cabinet ministers] thinks that we can reach an agreement with the
Palestinians.” Yediot Ahronot reports (print version, translated from Hebrew):

Q: So why all these games of make-believe negotiations? It’s possible to
announce that we will not reach an agreement, and that is all.

YA’ALON: Because in the political establishment there are pressures. Peace
Now from within and other elements from without. So you have to maneuver.
But what I’m saying now has to be given over to the Americans, and I hope that
they will understand.

Some of what we have to do is maneuver with the American administration
and the European establishment, which are also nourished by Israeli elements,
which create the illusion that an agreement can be reached.

Ya’alon disclosed that Netanyahu has made clear that he intends to increase
settlement activity as soon as the freeze expires. “The prime minister reiterates
all the time,” Ya’alon said, “and also brought a decision to the security cabinet
that says clearly, that immediately after the freeze, we will continue to build in
Judea and Samaria as we did before.”

Q: Will we evacuate settlements in the end?

YA’ALON: I do not accept that. What has happened to us in recent years
obligates us to stop with everything connected to withdrawal.

The Netanyahu administration’s refusal to offer any compromise on settlement
expansion in Jerusalem so angered President Obama that the president “walked
out of his meeting” with the Prime Minister. More maneuvers by Bibi, Avigdor
[Joe lieberman’s namesake] on how to respond to Obama’s ended up with Bibi
being told to stay away from DC or ordered to stay away by YA’ALON.

YA”ALON who for some unknown reason has been tagged with the moniker
“CHEMICAL YA” is repreenting Bibi Nethanyahu at the nuclear summit in DC
with Obama and other world leaders.

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April 12th, 2010, 4:17 pm

 

56. Akbar Palace said:

Nuclear Security vs. Anti-Zionism: A Primer

Now that the “Nuclear Security Summit” is going on in the US, I think it’s appropriate to go down “Memory Lane” and see what “renown academics” and unbiased “reporters” had to say about the despicable Israeli bombing of the North Korean-built nuclear plant in Syria just a few years ago:

Israel-hater: Jonathan Cook

Why Did Israel Attack Syria?

The immediate fallout of the failed attack was an apparent waning of neocon influence. The group’s program of “creative destruction” in the Middle East — the encouragement of regional civil war and the partition of large states that threaten Israel — was at risk of being shunted aside.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18469.htm

Israel hater: Professor Josh

Old Pictures of Syrian Nuke Site Suggest “Refried Beans”

More questions are being raised about the solidity of Washington’s allegations that the site in Syria hit by Israel was a nuclear plant.

http://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=445

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April 12th, 2010, 6:38 pm

 

57. Ghat Albird said:

AKBAR PALACE said:

Nuclear Security vs. Anti-Zionism: A Primer

Another symptomatic and systematic eagerness on the part of AP to make others feel guilty, to paint them all guilty for criminal acts the Jews themselves commited.

The reactions to a Syrian attack on Israeli plants and or nuclear facilities would have ended with the same hysterics that “everybody hates” the Jews/israel [except the brainwashed Americans] and it would be pegged as a criminal act. So must the acts that Israel commits in bombing and killing others.

In their twisted logic its not only acceptable but honorable for Israel to attack Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, the Palestenians in Gaza and the West Bank and be the only state with over 200 nuclear bombs.

This kind of mentality may have stood them in good stead but those days are slipping away. and people do not care anymore whether they are tagged as anti-israel or even Jewish.

Cause if the Israelis avow to hating the Palestenian, whom they have called and still call “DOGS” others have the right if not the duty to call the Israelis likewise. Thats the way of the world you Nethanyahu, Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams,Pipes, Wolfowitz Podhoretz, Kristols, Ross etc,. have actually created in your Clean Break Project.

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April 12th, 2010, 7:21 pm

 

58. trustquest said:

Husam,
It seems from your comments that you are hinting that I have chip implanted or the author has one, tell you the truth I don’t know and I don’t know if you have one or anyone else on this site have one. :))

If you are saying that because it is their first makes it important and right, allow me to disagree.

But I do agree that the comments are interesting.

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April 13th, 2010, 12:15 am

 

59. Husam said:

Trustquest:

You may have a chip implanted only if you are an asset working for the CIA, a military operative, or tent-dweller-turned-suicide-bomber type of a guy. If you read my comments completely and did any google search for “microship implant” or “military mind control”, then add “Iraq” to the search, results will show that this is indeed real.

This is not a theory, but reality. Here is one for you: my wife and in May of 2008 were contemplating adopting a kitten, so instead of going to the pet store, we decided to go to the local SPCA and find one that we could save. We found the perfect adorable one which we proceeded to inquire on the procedure to take her home on the spot. We were told that we had to pay $250 for all preparation which included an implantation of a micro-chip. We were shocked at this invasive procedure. And best yet, we could not opt out! Don’t believe me, Google “micro chip implantation SPCA”. It is common all over the US and Canada.

This is just the beginning. That Saturday afternoon at the SPCA were full of kids, and this is just a primer for the next generation to be more accepting of such measures.

Regarding the “first” for Arabs to agree about censorship. I believe the article stated that – various Arab states agreed to stop putting each other down. This is soft censorhip, in my opinion, perhaps to improve the world image of Arab leaders who frequently engage in name calling. Trustquest, you can’t go from dictatorship-president-for-life to total democracy overnight. I was not implying censorship is good thing rather the “agreement” between Arab states deserves a toast.

So, Cheers if you are Arab.

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April 13th, 2010, 1:02 am

 

60. norman said:

Shai,

As long as Israel has hold on congress as it does now there is no chance that the US can do anything to advance peace , if the US really wants justice in the Mideast it would have moved on the Palestinian tract who did everything you want Syria to do , and they got nothing , the history of the US with Syria is just deception and more deception lies and more lies , started with Kissinger when he promised to advance the peace process and a just settlement after the disengagement agreement only to find out that it meant only to safeguard Israel so it can annex the Golan Heights , The Us has to prove that it is for justice and Syrian rights , we are waiting for the US to lift all the sanctions that it imposes on Syria for the sake of Israel and to recognize Syria’s right to do everything it can to get her land back and for an American official to show up on the Golan and call for it’s return to Syria in return for a comprehensive peace deal , until then the US is not trusted in Syria or any other Arab country , at least by the people ,

The US should not expect anything from Syria without being with Syria and Syria should not expect and does not expect anything from the US while the US is controlled by the Israeli lobby ,

In summery , the US has to be liberated from the Israeli lobby ,so it ca look after it’s own interest before it can do anything for Syria and until it can do for Syria , i don’t expect Syria to do anything for the US .

And that is my take!.

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April 13th, 2010, 1:18 am

 

61. Shai said:

Norman,

With all due respect, I find it a bit odd that such a small nation is so powerful in Washington, without some kind of mutual interests being served here. What do you mean by “Israel has a hold on Congress“? Sounds like Israel is a giant, and Congress is a mere dwarf.

As we say in Hebrew, let’s “call the Baby by its name”. Israel has a hell of a lot better and stronger PR than, in our case, Syria. We market our ideas, our Occupation, our military operations, our overflights, our attack on your reactor, far better than you market your rights.

You said: “we are waiting for the US to lift all the sanctions that it imposes on Syria for the sake of Israel…” But it doesn’t work that way. No American is going to wake up one fine morning and say “Wallahi, maybe it’s time to lift those sanctions on Syria…” Congress, the Administration, and the rest of America, will change its view of Syria, only if SYRIA changes their mind, not anyone else. And that was my point earlier – that Syria can’t afford to “wait” – that it should improve its PR, and quickly while Obama is still in power. When Sarah Palin is President (God-forbid), it’ll be much tougher, being a clear-and-present member of the “EMA” (Evil Muslim Axis).

Ynet and Haaretz report this morning that Syria is arming Hezbollah (not Lebanon) with Scud missiles. I don’t think any Israeli should be surprised by that. But it is clear to me that Israel just won big-points on the Hill, because I don’t have to be a conniving Jew with long nails, having a “hold on Congress”, to convince Americans that Syria’s intentions aren’t peaceful. That it arms anti-Western terrorists (remember, America has a slight “record” on its own with Hezbollah, that is difficult for her to forget). I could have been a Jamaican saying this to Congress, and they’d agree.

There are two main battles here, that Syria can fight. One is on the land, by herself and not through proxy organizations, and the other is through PR, again by herself. But it’s awfully difficult to do both at the same time, when the other side (Israel) is still deemed the “good guy”.

If you put ego aside, I think Syria can do a far better job in PR than it’s doing, in DC. Arming Hezbollah with Scuds means, to me, only one thing – we’re going to war.

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April 13th, 2010, 7:28 am

 

62. norman said:

Shai,
Syria has no reach to the US media outlets , Aljazeera English is not allowed to operate , and YES through donations to political campaigns the Israeli LOBBY has a hold on congress , as all the congress men and women who were defeated by AIPAC supported people , about Hezbollah and American history , did you forget the Liberty ship that was attacked by Israel and these dead sailors and their families are still looking for justice , how about all the killing that Israel did in Gaza and still doing there with a blockade that is worse than what the Jewish ghettos faced , with no outrage from the US , YES the US is the dog that being waged by the tail ,

About helping Hezbollah to prepare for an Israeli assault , good for them as Israel proved time and again that it will respond only to force , apparently you and others want Syria to disarm first then beg for a hand out ,

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April 13th, 2010, 11:34 am

 

63. Ghat Albird said:

The Final Solution on the Road to Eretz.

Report from a European website and reported in the Guardian.

Catholic Bishop’s comment backwards & forwars.

The scandal isn’t Jews attacking the Catholic Church; the scandal is the Jew-controlled media covering up for the Catholic Church for years so the Jews could use the pedophilia as blackmail against the Church to wipe out Christianity in the Holy Land.

And a report from Haaretz complementary to the above views.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1162075.html

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April 13th, 2010, 12:45 pm

 

64. trustquest said:

Husam, have you see the smiley face at the end, I was trying to give your post on chips and brain controls a realistic approach so not make it look as a conspiracy theory because science in this field is real thing and the applications are all over from civil to military applications. DNA mapping is something from the past and now brain mapping is actively proceeding. Neuronscience, conscious and unconscious decisions of brain, social effects on decisions making are something worth perusing as human gather more knowledge and open new fields. You don’t know may be in the future a song ( not a chip) could change population minds about one issue if we pin point area and type of waves affect on the brain that change decisions, like this biological studies on frogs which studies the effect of hormone. http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201002121

And thanks for the explication about those Arab leaders who are trying to protect or reserve their comic behavior, but still the king of kings Mr. Kaddafi is the best of all dictators and kings.

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April 13th, 2010, 12:51 pm

 

65. Shai said:

Norman,

“apparently you and others want Syria to disarm first then beg for a hand out.”

You know I haven’t said that. I’m not suggesting Syria should disarm itself, of course not. And to me, it is clear why Syria is arming Hezbollah, and why it has a special relationship with Iran and now Turkey.

My previous comment was meant to depict the view that could be formed by Americans, regardless of who “sells it” to them – be it a Jew or a Jamaican. You can’t blame AIPAC for jumping for joy each time Syrian Scuds are found in Hezbollah hands. That was my point. I wasn’t justifying any act, nor suggesting the Jewish lobby is weak, nonexistent, or neutral.

Norman, we can call each side a terrorist all we want, but in the end, we’ll have to prove to those who’ll broker peace that we want it. I don’t know why Israel is so much more successful at doing that (despite our Occupation of Arab lands) than Syria is. But the fact that you’re losing the battle on the PR-front does not mean you must abandon it, or give up the fight. By the way, there are far more satellite channels in Arabic than there are in Hebrew, and Arab-English than Hebrew-English. You should find a way to use that, but from what I’ve seen, you don’t (not enough).

I’m not here to blame Syria for the Golan still residing in Israeli hands, Norman. You know my views.

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April 13th, 2010, 3:37 pm

 

66. Husam said:

Trustquest:

Thank you for clarifying, I thought you were being sarcastic. Just a final note: These mind controlling procedures are at an advanced stage and have been used in IRAQ & Afganistan on military personnel AND more importantly on human-assets-turned-suicide-zombie. If people can understand that this is plausible, you will then have “partly” debunked the 72 Virgin myth and the rhetoric: Islamic Jihadist behind all the turmoil in the M.E.

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April 13th, 2010, 3:47 pm

 

67. Husam said:

As much as I hate to, I will break my own rule and answer to A.P:

S/he said: “I don’t think anyone can prove the Mossad has been involved in “bombings and terror activities” to the extent the Islamic/jihadist organizations have. All one has to do is see who claimed RESPONSIBILITY for some of these terror activities.”

I did not state “Mossad” only but other agencies as well. A.P. your style is getting boring, can’t you do better?

Interview with Ultra Zionist, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76* “How Jimmy Carter and I created the Mujahadin” : http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

A Comprehensive History of Zionist Crimes (Guys on SC you have read these proofs in full): http://www.takeourworldback.com/zionistcrimes.htm

The Mossad is keeping quiet but has a history of operations in the Middle East: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/02/18/israel.mossad/index.html

Lebanon’s Army captures Israeli Mossad ‘Terrorist Ring’: http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2006/06/lebanons_army_c.php

Reuters – The Kremlin-backed chief of Russia’s turbulent Chechnya region said his forces were fighting U.S. and British intelligence services who want to split the country apart: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58N5S120090924

The BBC Admits That Al Qaeda Is A Hoax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9SGqU5OvG0

BBC: Osama Bin Laden Dead or Alive Complete in Six Parts on Youtube: http://www.911blogger.com/node/22367

Mossad – The official motto: “By way of deception, thou shalt do war.”: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hoax.html

Mossad – The real Al-Qaeda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz-uAZ6mlno&feature=related

Fake Osama Bin Ladin fool American Public: http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html

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April 13th, 2010, 3:56 pm

 

68. Husam said:

Shai & Norman:

Shai, you stated ” I don’t know why Israel is so much more successful at doing that (despite our Occupation of Arab lands) than Syria is.” You make it sound like the PR that Israel exerts over Washington as an honourable thing, play by the book, and Syria should do the same. These lobbies, special interest, and the politicians that get supported and make it into the ranks of the US Governments are elected to serve organizations AND not the actual interest (domestic & foreign) of the American people.

While most in the Arab world know that elections in their respective countries is a fraud, most Americans don’t know a iota of how things work.

Israel plays the game one way, and Syria plays it another way. Syria doesn’t have the history in US politics, the drive of Jewish holders of dual citizenship, and the long term expansion plans Israel has on the region. Syria doesn’t have a terrorist organisation (Mossad) that carries out operations world wide which they need to cover for. The dynamics and long term vision of Syria & Israel are much different.

Norman, I agree with you that Shai (sorry Shai) always advocates peace between Syria & Israel now (when Syria is weaker) which benefits Israel, but we all know such deals don’t have a lasting effect. As for Sarah Palin, and the puppets that will come after, the status quo will remain in favor of Israel. Basically the tune may change but the dance will remain the same and the choreographer will laugh all the way to the bank.

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April 13th, 2010, 8:01 pm

 

69. Shai said:

Dear Husam,

First, I never suggested AIPAC’s lobbying in Washington is an “honorable thing”. Personally, I rather detest their automatic support of Israel, no matter what we do. I find it one of the most anti-Israeli thing anyone can do. It serves the opposite of our long term interests. The way AIPAC goes after politicians is the reason Norman refers to it as “Israel has a hold on Congress.”

Second, I never advocated peace with Syria, while Syria is weak. This is precisely why I think the Palestinians should announce the end of their dream of a Palestine. Because at that moment, they will become infinitely stronger. And we will be standing in line, begging them to take all the Jewish settlements, and then some. I don’t think Syria should be weak. I think it isn’t weak, and because of that previous PM’s wanted to make peace with her.

Third, I don’t know what “terrorist organization” we have, and what others don’t. I imagine the Palestinians weren’t particularly happy with Hamas operatives throwing Fatah-supporters from 6-story buildings in Gaza, or dragging them through town, before executing them. We commit plenty of crimes, as I’ve noted on numerous occasions here on SC, but let’s not pretend the region has only one “terrorist organization” (Mossad).

Fourth, although I’ve heard this said a million times before, I’d like to have some better “proof” of Israel’s “long term expansion plans in the region”. If you’re talking about the West Bank, then I agree, it certainly seems Israel plans to occupy it forever (which of course would be foolish of her to do, as it would end de facto the “Jewish State”.) But if you’re suggesting Israel is still planning to reach the Euphrates River, as I’m sure some in the Arab World are told day and night, then I’d like to see some evidence of this.

Lastly, I think you’re not getting my message or I’m not delivering it well. I never said Syria should be weak, should capitulate, should become a 2nd Egypt, or should do something contrary to its own strategic interests. Just as when I call on Syria to open its doors to Israeli journalists I’m not suggesting it expose any weaknesses, same way when I say that Syria could put on a stronger PR in Washington (which I think is more open to that today, than certainly during the Bush Era), I’m again not attempting to gain an advantage for Israel. If anything, it’s the opposite. After all, what I think is in Israel’s best interests, to most in Israel seems today to be quite the opposite.

We need Obama to change his stance and his view towards Syria. He won’t do that if AIPAC can point to Syrian Scuds in Hezbollah hands. But it’s Syria that gives AIPAC that ammunition, not AIPAC that is so much stronger than Syria.

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April 13th, 2010, 9:06 pm

 

70. Husam said:

Shai:

Thank you for the clarification. Syria’s strategy of proxies and moving Scuds to them is precisely the point. They have no alternative within the cirumstances they face. I don’t think Washington is a fair play ground where one can go and practice the PR you are thinking of and neutralize the effect of AIPAC. Shai, I believe I posted a comment several days ago asking you and Yossi to “imagine” and consider if the Arabs or Muslims had a hand over Washington and I was advocating to you that Israel (or Jamaica, as you stated) do some PR. Unless Jamaica controls the media, the money, and congress then nothing can be swayed in their favor. Not even a coconut or two.

Further, Hamas doesn’t carry out operations worldwide. Hamas may have carried out operations on its own or in Israel, but comparing the two is like linking a fly to an elephant. The Mossad is proportionitely, in my opinion, more lethal and more effective than the CIA.

Israel has been an expanionist state since its creation. This a fact as much as the sky is above and the ground is below. “Biblical Borders” won’t reach the Euphrates River in your lift time. However, it will be done in stages.

Since you asked for stronger “proofs”, I encourage you to read Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years by Professor Israel Shahak. I suggest you read the full content of the link I am providing, but if you are short of time, scroll down to “Israeli Expansionism”.

There, you will find ample examples of Talmudic influence on Israeli Policy as well as the “proofs’ that indeed there is and will always be an ingrained religiously motivated expansionist plans in the works.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis1.htm

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