News Round Up (15 May 2011)

Anthony Shadid and Joshua Landis in 10 minute radio clip on Syria – NPR

Syrian Sources say there was no shelling in Homs by tanks or anything else, as was reported in the press.

From a trusted friend in Syria:

Was in Homs again yesterday. We saw no evidence of shelling anywhere and most of the town was normal. One neighborhood, Bab Amr was blocked off and deserted. Was also in Aleppo and I think the story of thousands of students at the university was also exagerrated. More like 100. People there told me Aleppo is really normal and very few demonstrations have happened.

Golan: http://youtu.be/ekgkuAaTjPg – Syrians crossing into the Golan – Mundasiin?

From NYTimes: In the Golan Heights, about 100 Palestinians living in Syria breached a border fence and crowded into the village of Majdal Shams, waving Palestinian flags. Troops fired on the crowd, killing four people. The border unrest could represent a new phase in the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad of Syria.

LA Times [Reg]: SYRIA: Videos show large student protest in Aleppo, the second largest city, 2011-05-12

Anthony Shadid in NYTimes – in Homs, and residents reported that… after a day of shelling and gunfire, and sporadic shots heard before dawn, the area was relatively quiet, a resident there, Abu Haydar, said by telephone.

One of the few Western journalists who has been able to get in to Syria to see the protests there and the crackdown by the regime of President Bashar Assad says he was “surprised at how much support President Assad himself still has.”

Martin Fletcher, associate editor at The Times of London, spoke with All Things Considered host Robert Siegel earlier today.

Fletcher just left Syria after six days there (during which he posed as a tourist; more on that below) and says that while the outside world has gotten the impression that most Syrians are rising up against Assad, he came away thinking things are more complicated.

“People hate the people around [Assad],” Fletcher said, “for their corruption; for their brutality.” But many of the Syrians he met, still believe that the president is something of a reformer and they “like the way he stands up to the United States and Israel.”

Others, Fletcher added, buy into the idea that if Assad were to step down then sectarian violence might flare. That’s a theory that Syrian writer Yassin Haj Saleh told Robert earlier this week is nothing more than “blackmail” coming from the Assad regime.

As for how he was able to do his work while in Syria, Fletcher said he left behind many of journalism’s modern tools — particularly his laptop. He took a new cellphone with no phone numbers programmed into it so that authorities couldn’t search it for contacts. And he wrote his reports in long-hand, before dictating them over the phone to his newsroom back in London….

Authorities and protesters split on whether Syrian rebellion is over
Phil Sands in Syria reports for the National

…….. Many Syrians – arguably the overwhelming majority, although reliably canvassing public opinion is impossible – believe Mr Assad should be given time and space to deliver on his promises.

His opponents insist, however, that the president is either unwilling or unable to bring about real political change to the autocratic system of government established four decades ago by his father and predecessor as president, Hafez al Assad.

Mr Amin, the former government official, insisted that the younger Assad can still be an agent of reform and that the outbreak of demonstrations had shown Syria’s elite they can no longer do business as they have done for the past 40 years. “After this crisis, the authorities understand that now they need to be serious about reforms, political and economic, that they must do it and do it now,” he said. “There will be big changes. The leadership understands the problems on the ground.”

That view, however, was brushed aside by an adviser to the government who said he saw little sign the increased freedoms and equality of opportunity demanded by Syrians would materialise .

“They are still living from Friday to Friday. It’s crisis management. There is no long-term strategy,” he said. “I don’t see them having the map that shows the way out of this.”

While anecdotally there is protest fatigue among many Syrians, the young activists playing a key role in the uprising have not been deterred by arrests, beatings and other acts of intimidation.

One dissident released by the security services after being arrested for the first time and jailed for more than two weeks said: “They made me sign a promise that I would not go to another protest, but of course I will.”

He said he had been beaten by his interrogators every day and had shared a cell with dozens of other activists and ordinary people gobbled up in mass arbitrary arrests.

“After that, I’m less afraid than before,” he said. “There is still fear, but not so much as there was. The protests are not finished, the military solution hasn’t stopped this.

“It will stop when we can walk freely in the street without the security coming and arresting us for no reason. It will stop when I’m allowed to live my life.”

psands@thenational.ae

Khaddam to Israeli Channel2: “NATO & Turkish forces will finish off the Assad regime in weeks!”

Residents fleeing Syrian town tell of arrests, terror Washington Post

WSJ [Reg]: Syria’s Sluggish Economy Adds to Regime’s Troubles, 2011-05-16

DAMASCUS—The Syrian government, stuck in a stalemate with protesters, also is facing the longer-term challenge of keeping the country’s already creaky economy from collapsing. As in Egypt and Tunisia, economic woes played a part in the protests …

Erdogan on Charlie Rose: A friend writes:

Watching Erdogan on Charlie Rose now. He said: “I’ve sat beside Bashar in the passenger seat several times while he drove his car in Damascus and around Syria. We used to get out of the car often in the streets and I know for a fact that the Syrian people love him. I saw this first hand”.. “we are talking to the Syrian government and to the Syrian opposition”… “I asked president Bashar to deliver the reforms he his doing today a year ago. Syria was late”…”I wish Syria stability and safety but this is in the hands of the Syrian people”

Inside Story – Turkey’s changing tunes on Syria

U.S., EU prod nuclear agency over Syria, 2011-05-15

WASHINGTON, May 15 (UPI) — The secretive nuclear program in violence-wracked Syria should be investigated further by international regulators, the United States and European Union say.

The allies have been lobbying the International Atomic Energy Agency to step up pressure on Damascus to disclose its nuclear history and plans, The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday.

The renewed push would place more pressure on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who has been battling anti-government protesters for three months and is resisting calls to step down.

“We’re looking to increasingly isolate Assad,” said a European official who asked not to be identified…..

Syria: Britain Pushes for Sanctions for Bashar Al-Assad
2011-05-12, Bruno Waterfield

May 12 (Telegraph) — Britain has proposed that President Bashar al-Assad and four of his inner circle be added to a Brussels travel ban and asset freeze list as EU warned the “net was tightening” around the Syrian leader. Britain and France were angered last week after EU divisions prevented the Syrian president being added to a list of 13 officials targeted with sanctions, but such differences now appear to have been overcome. “It will only be a matter of days until he is added,” one official said.

الرئيس يوعز ببدء التنصل من دور رامي مخلوف الاقتصادي بعد التنصل من تصريحاته السياسية
بواسطة

– 2011/05/14نشر فى: غير مصنف
مراسل المحليات: كلنا شركاء

نقل موقع داماس بوست الالكتروني عمن أسماه (عضو بارز في غرفة تجارة دمشق) نفيه لقيام رجل أعمال سوري (رامي مخلوف) بإنقاذ الليرة السورية التي تهاوت أمام ارتفاع سعر الدولار غير المسبوق منذ أيام.
وقال العضو البارز في الغرفة، بحسب تقديم داماس بوست له، بأن من أنقذ الليرة السورية هو سياسات البنك المركزي لاغير، ولا علاقة لأي رجل أعمال سوري بالأمر… وأضاف عضو الغرفة مستطرداً، ومؤكداً العكس: “لو تدخلوا كما أشيع في الآونة الأخيرة لكان لموقفهم أثر سلبي واضح ، لأن الدولة اليوم قادرة أكثر من أي وقت مضى على حماية الليرة السورية”.
وكا

Syria Press Release:

Today Dr Sami Khiyami, Syria’s Ambassador to the United Kingdom, issued the following statement:
“Her Excellency Mrs Al-Assad and her three children are not in the UK. The First Lady is in Damascus, focusing on internal issues including her programme of empowerment of the Syrian people. Her children are also in Damascus and, contrary to these ill-intended rumours, only hold a Syrian passport.”

Clinton: “The US to increase the pressure on Syria”

(Reuters)- “… “We are going to hold the Syrian government accountable,” she said after meeting the Danish foreign minister. “The United States along with Denmark and other colleagues are going to look for ways to increase the pressure.”…”

Germany, European Partners Summon Syrian Ambassadors, Threaten More Sanctions
By Associated Press

May 11 (Washington Post) — BERLIN Germany says several European countries are summoning Syrian ambassadors and threatening new sanctions targeting the countrys leadership if it doesnt halt the repression of protesters.

What Regime Change in Syria Would Mean
Paul R. Pillar, March 29, 2011

Accelerating unrest in Syria, with the regime scrambling to find some combination of concession and repression to stay in power, has regime change juices in the United States flowing. The Washington Post editorial page says “it is time to recognize that Syria’s ruler is an unredeemable thug—and that the incipient domestic uprising offers a potentially precious opportunity.” Elliott Abrams declares that with regimes “falling like dominoes” in the Middle East, “Syria is next.” He issues a clarion call to rid the world of the “murderous clan” and “bloody regime” of Bashar al-Assad…..

The talking up of the idea of toppling Assad exhibits some of the same shortcomings, however, as earlier agitation for changes of regime elsewhere. There is underestimation of how much worthwhile business could be conducted with the incumbent regime, however distasteful it may be. There is overestimation of how much the policies of the country in question are specific to the incumbent regime, and thus overestimation as well of how much change in those policies would ensue from a change of regime. There is also a general failure to think much about who or what would replace the current regime. ….

BBC: Inside Syria’s ‘windowless basements’, 2011-05-11

Syria authorities have banned foreign journalists from entering the country, but Times’ chief foreign correspondent Martin Fletcher attempted to enter the country as a tourist. He was arrested by the authorities, taken to a windowless basement …

Time.com – No Sectarian Rifts

The activists insist that theirs is not a sectarian agenda, despite the regime’s attempts to portray them as Islamists. There is real cross-sectarian support for the protests, they say. They have a good case: represented among the activists working in the flat is the full cross-section of Syrian society — Sunni Muslim, Alawite, Druze, and Christian. The group even helped to disseminate a popular chant that has helped to minimize sectarian rifts: “One, One, The Syrian People, We are One.”

Hassan, a younger activist hailing from Lattakia, is unimpressed at suggestions the Alawite minority is on the regime’s side just because they are tied by religion to the ruling Assad family. “In the end, we are all Syrian. This regime is not Alawite, it’s Al-Assad’s regime, his private club and mafia. Even Alawites don’t like it”. And so he finds himself, an Alawite, fighting an uprising against an Alawite regime.

Note from Kenan MD MRCS MSc ORTH – Syrian in England:

I do not believe that there is no alternative for Assad rule, Syria is stronger than one person and it will endure this hardship but I do not think he will. in the eyes of so many people the regime which killed so many (more than 800) has lost its legitimacy. Syria is just like any other country have structural issues, and I compare the problem of jihadist fundamentalist with the west problem of racism and fascism which grew under dictatorships but is kept in check in real democracy which-for the first time ever- we have a realistic chance it will emerge. Do not be taken yourself by the regime tactics of scaremongering well illustrated by Rami Makhlouf interview with the New York Times. After more than 50 years Rule of Baathist we have more sectarianism and fundamentalism than we ever had and letting this squashed with no legitimate answer to the blood spilled will only seed the sectarian war we are all worried about. We should not give the Syrian regime any comfort that his siege and counter misinformation is working, because it will not work in this new information age. The issue of killed military personnel is interesting, there have been many credible reports about soldiers being killed for refusing to fire on protestors or joining them. There are many Videos confirming this including one showing people in Deraa giving medical support to wounded soldiers. I have not seen a single credible evidence produced by the government of the alleged Salafis they are fighting.

Report: Syrian Troops Shelling Residential Areas
By ZEINA KARAM 2011-05-11

BEIRUT (AP) — The Syrian army shelled residential areas in central Syria on Wednesday, a sharp escalation in the government’s attempts to crush a popular revolt against President Bashar Assad’s rule, according to activists and witnesses.

Heavy gunfire was heard as at least three residential neighborhoods were hit by tank fire in the besieged city of Homs, which has experienced some of the largest anti-government demonstrations in recent weeks. “There were loud explosions and gunfire from automatic rifles throughout the night and until this morning,” a frightened resident told The Associated Press by telephone. “The area is totally besieged. We are being shelled.”

Activists in Damascus who were in touch with residents also reported shelling in Homs, Syria’s third-largest city and home to one of its two oil refineries. The witnesses and activists, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared reprisals, said the shelling was targeting the Bab Sbaa, Bab Amr and Jouret el Aris neighborhoods. The eyewitness said several people who fled Bab Sbaa through fields told him the area was badly damaged and that the shelling seemed indiscriminate. Syrian authorities are determined to crush the uprising,…

AlexRodriguez writes:

Khaled Meshaal, exiled Hamas leader based from Damascus, calls the Arab spring beautiful (9:00) and that freedom and democracy is needed in Syria (10:35) during his interview with France 24 in Cairo at the sidelines of the recent reconciliation ceremony with Fatah.

Syria’s regional role offers a way out
By Sami Moubayed

DAMASCUS – There are two views about how to deal with the snowballing crisis that is emerging between Damascus and the international community. One says that strained relations with both the United States and Europe are not as bad as they seems – claiming that Syria has been here before. Another argument goes that Damascus cannot live in isolation, having worked very hard at repairing damaged relations with Paris and Washington.

Yassin Haj Saleh’s last article, in al-Hayat, in Arabic

Kilo’s, here and here

KURDS

The Syrian Studies Association announces the publication of the latest issue of the Syrian Studies Association Newsletter, XVI: 1 (Spring 2011) at: https://ojcs.siue.edu/ojs/index.php/ssa/index

Click on TABLE OF CONTENTS to access the issue and/or individual articles.

This thematic focus of this issue is on the Kurds of Syria. A “state of the art” article by

  • Prof. Jordi Tejel is the definitive word as of now on the study of the Kurds in Syria including a review of the history of the scholarship since the beginning of the French mandate and a 6-page bibliography.
  • Dr. Robert Lowe offers insights on the challenges and opportunities facing scholars of the Kurds of Syria;
  • Eva Savelsberg and Siamend Hajo provide an assessment of Bashar al-Asad’s reign for relations between Kurds and the Syrian state; and
  • Prof. Paolo Pinto explains the social, political, and cultural significance of Sufism among Kurds in Syria.

Two book reviews, one of

  • Prof. Tejel’s *Syria’s Kurds: History, Politics, and Society* (2009) and one of a book in Turkish on Syria’s undocumented Kurds, round out coverage of this topic.

In addition, there are reviews of books on Syrian Jewry during the Tanzimat period; European images of Damascus from the mid-19th and early 20th centuries; Syrian migrant workers in Lebanon; the economics of the early Islamic period in Syria; and on Syrian-Iranian relations during the 1980s as well as a letter from the Association’s president and news of the association.

The SSA is an international association organized to encourage and promote research and scholarly understanding of Syria in all periods and in all academic disciplines.

Geoffrey Robertson, a former U.N. judge and author of Crimes Against Humanity – How to prosecute Syria for Crimes

Document reveals Israel stripped 140,000 Palestinians of residency rights.

(Reuters) – Turkish security forces killed at least 12 Kurdish militants

after they were spotted crossing the border from Iraq, the military said on Saturday, while a soldier was killed by a mine blast.

The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) guerrillas were killed during operations Friday and early Saturday in the southeast province of Sirnak, the military statement said.

The soldier died in Hakkari, another insurgency-plagued province bordering both Iran and Iraq, state-run Antaolian news agency said. Some PKK fighters operate from bases in the Qandil Mountains of northern Iraq.

The PKK ended a six-month ceasefire in February and there have been fears of rising violence before a parliamentary election on June 12 that is expected to result in a comfortable third successive victory for Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan’s AK Party.

<b>Jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan has threatened “war” unless the government enters talks after the election to end a separatist conflict that has dragged on for 27 years, killing more than 40,000 people.</b>

The PKK last week claimed responsibility for an ambush that killed a police officer and wounded another in the northern Black Sea province of Kastamonu after an election rally by Erdogan, and two more police were killed this week.

The PKK says police have been attacked in retaliation for operations and arrests in the southeast. Erdogan has accused the militants of being behind several petrol bomb attacks on the offices of his AK Party.

Erdogan Says Assad Must Take Immediate Steps to Democracy
2011-05-12  By Benjamin Harvey

May 12 (Bloomberg) — Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Syrian leader Bashar Al-Assad can’t deny his people’s “indispensible requests for peace and democracy.”

Assad should take immediate democratic steps as the momentum toward democracy in the Middle East is “irreversible,” Erdogan said in an interview with PBS’s Charlie Rose in Ankara aired today. Turkey views the situation in Syria as almost “like a domestic affair” because of the 800-kilometer (500-mile) border and close relations between the two countries, Erdogan said.

Assad is “a good friend of mine,” and the two have had “long conversations” about changing the election system, permitting the formation of political parties and releasing political prisoners in Syria, Erdogan said.

Marwan writes:

Mr JOSHUA LANDIS About two months later I sent you email and the days proved what I said. I read your essay  What Will a Post Assad Syria Look Like?  and I have some notes:

The first note about Syrian army , I want to tell you about some thing until now Syria Special Forces and Syrian elite units  never have interfered  or entered in the cities and if it happened it occurred into limited range, so when you speak  about split this is very unlikely  because if these units didn’t split I thing special forces and elite units won’t be split and this idea made by Media and there isn’t  real reasons to this splite because I know Syrian army  and how the army discipline.

I think  you know our army ideological army and our army not army for parades. Second  note. our economy very stable and strong so I  astonished when you speak about  the government won’t be able to pay wages. Third note . in my opinion  Syria and Syrian people  have passed the critical situation “civil  war”  and this is the most important  issue in this  crisis. With my best regards

Abraham

I found your article uncharacteristically pessimistic. Despite my own apprehensions I am cautiously optimistic that events in Syria will not spiral out of control nor descend into chaos or civil war. You might be most pessimistic when the news is at its worst as am I. We need to step back and look at the whole flawed picture.

The Assad regime is certainly responsible for much of the deterioration, especially with the restriction of outside news media, ruthless tactics of suppression (even with the existence of armed elements bent on vitiating the nature flow of the a small but genuine populist movement) and poor PR, especially with the disastrous Rami Makkhlouf interview. However, when take the macro view, there seem to be fewer and fewer protesters as time passes. This is directly opposite what happened in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, even though this is an not apples to apples comparison.

Syrians, as you know, instinctively eschew chaos and pandemonium. I think this will allow Bashar more time in which if he is realistic and serious about meeting the people’s legitimate demands and not just trying to preserve the family dynasty, we may have a much better outcome than any of us could have imagined. If that is wishful thinking, than I am still an idealist and the scenario you laid out will prove me wrong.

Susan D.

Dear Joshua,

The emails from Syria Comment with the headlines you run are shocking me these days. You seem to have taken a “line” in the choice of headlines and in your comments, which is quite contrary to everyone I spoke to in Damascus over Easter (Sunnis, Alawis), and people I have spoken to in Australia from the Lebanese and Syrian community….

I fear for the future of Syria and its people but you seem to be blase about it and trust the protesters as if you could equate them with the protesters in Cairo, or those anti-war protesters in Europe pre-Iraq war.

What about the resignations of Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya reporters? What about the call from Qaradawi, what about the Salafists, what about the weapons and money found, what about the soldiers killed, what about Khadam, Bandar bin-Sultan, Hariri, and their hand in things. What about the US long-term plan to destabilize Syria? What about Israel’s use of agents in Syria and Lebanon and its plans? What about the collapse of a country and the possible killings of tens of thousands of people?? What about secular Syria??….

Robert B. Zoellick, World Bank:

Jobs, Jobs, and More Jobs

Legitimate institutions and empowered citizens can make a big difference. But citizens still need jobs.

In the Middle East, regimes have tried to keep a lid on rising unemployment with a mix of political repression, public sector jobs, and subsidies on food, fuel and other necessities.

These measures bought time, but little else.

Expensive and inefficient, they have fed nepotism not need; cronyism not competitiveness; corruption not capitalism.

The International Labor Organization estimates that the unemployment rate for 15 to 24 year olds in the Middle East is 25 percent. Our survey of 1,500 youth found that the self declared or perceived jobless rate was even higher, at 35 to 40 percent. Young women in Egypt and Jordan confront unemployment of 40 percent.

The direct opportunity cost of youth unemployment in the Arab world is estimated at up to $50 billion a year.

Governments in the Middle East now face huge expectations from their young populations – they want jobs now. Inaction poses risks. So will the wrong actions.

Policy reform will be as important as money.

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51. SANDRO LOEWE said:

SYRIA NO1 TALIBAN,

This is your way of understanding democracy and prisons are full of people due to the way your fellows understand this satrap democracy.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:13 pm

 

52. why-discuss said:

Jad

The western world is in shock and denial, they just can’t accept the fact that Palestinians are also part of the arab spring. They try to find all kind of explanations including blaming Syria, the usual suspect. ( soon Iran.. be sure)
Facebook, mobile cameras and Youtube have opened a pandora box.
Now that the Palestinians know they have much more support coming from Egyptian youth, hopefully they will not stop harassing the zionist entity with demonstrations until September.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:15 pm

 

53. jad said:

Sophia,
“I have not seen one positive statement from palestinian officials concerning what happened on May 15th despite the fact that this was a historic moment!”
You wont see or read anything about that from the Palestinians officials; PA officials are nothing but puppets and Hamas is busy forcing their ‘Godly’ law in Gaza, they have no time for anything else.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:15 pm

 

54. Aldendeshe said:

“It’s war,” said Mohammed, 19, a student and protester who escaped into Lebanon on Sunday. “Now this is a fight between Sunnis and Alawites.”

IN HARIRI/MB/KHADDAM/MOSLEM BEDOUINS/ BLOND HAIRED BEDOUINS OPIUM DEALERS WILDEST DREAM. KEEP ON DREAMING LOOOOOOOSERS. lOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS

And it goes on to say…”The reports of a split in the Syrian army could not be independently confirmed,”

Of course not, it is all made up by a virtual webpage Revolution.

It is the human tendency to deny the reality of “conspiracy”, even though all of human interaction is by definition a “conspiracy”. Conspirators rely on this habit of denial, because it makes their conspiracies possible. As long as people are denying that conspiring is possible, then conspiring is guaranteed to be successful.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:18 pm

 

55. jad said:

WD,
I just read that many Palestinian refugees in Syria want to try the same thing again and again and again and Ehud Barak is going crazy and want to kill this trend immediately.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:18 pm

 

56. jad said:

Palestinian Border Protests: The Arab Spring Model for Confronting Israel

After more than 100 Palestinians breached Israel’s border with Syria on Sunday, knocking down a fence and striding into a village in the Golan Heights, overmatched Israeli security forces scrambled to glean what they could from the protesters who had just, without so much as a sidearm, penetrated farther into the country than any army in a generation.
Under close questioning, the infiltrators closed the intelligence gap with a shrug and one word: Facebook. The operation that had caught Israel’s vaunted military and intelligence complex flat-footed was announced, nursed and triggered on the social networking site that has figured in every uprising around the Arab World — and is helping young Palestinians change the terms of their fight against Israel.
The headlines Sunday were all about the violence of the day: at least four people were shot dead by Israeli forces on the Syrian fence line, and as many as 10 were killed either by Israeli or Lebanese army gunfire at a similar demonstration on the nearby frontier with southern Lebanon. The death toll, along with the accounts of stone-throwing and tear gas, comport with the familiar narrative of the conflict, one constructed over years of Israel describing efforts to defend itself. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu encouraged that narrative on Sunday, arguing that the protesters were undermining the very existence of the State of Israel.
But those closer to events found in the day the makings of a new narrative. The Palestinians in Syria, Lebanon and the occupied Palestinian enclaves of Gaza and the West Bank approached Israeli gun positions on Sunday without arms of their own. If some teenagers threw rocks, a protest leader said they had apparently failed to attend the workshops on nonviolence the organizers arranged in what they call a new paradigm for the conflict. The aim, which appears to be building support, aims to re-cast the Palestinian-Israel conflict on the same terms that brought down dictatorships in Egypt and Tunisia.
Massive non-violent protests are aimed at winning international sympathy for the Palestinian perspective, and as a result, forcing Israel to pull out of territories its army has occupied since 1967. As the dust settled Sunday, senior Israeli officers acknowledged their vulnerability to the approach, which dovetails with the strategy of Palestinian leaders to ask the UN General Assembly to recognize a Palestininian state in September.
(See “A New Palestinian Movement: Young, Networked, Nonviolent.”)
“What we saw today was the promo for what we might see in September on the day the United Nations declares a state: Thousands of Palestinians marching toward Israeli checkpoints, Israeli settlements and the fence along the West Bank and Gaza Palestinians coming with their bare hands to demonstrate,” a senior Israeli officer tells TIME. “This is a huge problem. Well have to study what happened today to do better.”

“Less clear was how the protesters navigated the Syrian security which usually maintains strict control over the border area. Israeli officials interpreted protesters’ apparent ease of access to a military zone as evidence of sponsorship by the battered government of President Bashar al-Assad. With street protests threatening his regime in cities across Syria, the reasoning goes, al-Assad found in the Nakba protests a perfect opportunity to shift the focus to Israel.
But Fadi Quran, a Ramallah organizer in the Palestinian youth movement that promoted the marches, says his contacts in Syria were actually terrified of the Bashar government, which took steps to prevent some from traveling to the protests from refugee camps near Damascus where they have lived since fleeing their homes in what is now northern Israel.”

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2071673,00.html#ixzz1MXe4AK11

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May 16th, 2011, 2:32 pm

 

57. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Not only that this junta is the worst of all Arab juntas, the most murderous, but they are not the smartest if they think that they can hide their crimes underground, in mass graves.
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May 16th, 2011, 2:33 pm

 

58. atassi said:

Syria no kardaha..

2القصف العنيف الذي نفذته وحدات جيش النظام المجرم، و عناصر الأمن دمرت ثلاثة مساجد في تلكلخ، هي: مسجد عثمان بن عفان، و مسجد المرتضى، و مسجد الحميدة، بالإضافة إلى عدد كبير من المباني المحيطة بهذه المساجد.
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May 16th, 2011, 2:35 pm

 

59. NK said:

S.N.K, John Khouri and Souri

“If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.” (Deuteronomy 25:11-12 NIV)

“If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. Matthew 18:7-9

Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out

Other punishments in the bible

Deuteronomy 22:22 “If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die.”

Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.”

Deuteronomy 22:21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

Leviticus 21:9 (King James Version)
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

Exodus 22:3
A thief who is caught must pay in full for everything he stole. If he cannot pay, he must be sold as a slave to pay for his theft.

Matthew 18:25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt

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May 16th, 2011, 2:41 pm

 

60. Syria no kandahar said:

Junta in tel aviv

I told you to see the dr for this junta virus you have.it is treatable.
By the way the tsunami was hitting your way yesterday. Did you climbe on a tree? Make sure it is not junta tree. You will fall and break your neck.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:44 pm

 
 

62. Aldendeshe said:

“……..2القصف العنيف الذي نفذته وحدات جيش النظام المجرم، و عناصر الأمن دمرت ثلاثة مساجد في تلكلخ، هي: مسجد عثمان بن عفان، و مسجد المرتضى، و مسجد الحميدة، بالإضافة إلى عدد كبير من المباني المحيطة بهذه المساجد.

Way to go Bashar, thank you for cleaning up Tel Kalakh. Better you do it than me LOL.. You must learned all that from Khadem Alharamin- Moslem protector Abdullah, his Bedouins did a HELLOFAJOB destroying Bahrini Mosques and burning Qurans. Sorry for the honesty. Now I can start drafting plans of my new home in Arida. I was going to have it in Kadesh. Well, I will just design and build two of them.

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May 16th, 2011, 2:46 pm

 

63. why-discuss said:

Jad

I hope all arabs, like the young Egyptians who are waking up from 40 years coma, will join this wave despite the censorship of their goverment. I also encourage MB in their aim to confront Israel instead of confronting a country who has always supported the Resistance
I also encourage Turkey to do the same

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May 16th, 2011, 2:49 pm

 

64. why-discuss said:

N.K

Nice gathering of Jewish laws..

The advice you refer to is very specific: “YOU cut your own hand” not someone punished you by cutting it for you, as it is done in the 21th century in some rich and famous countries you seem to want to emulate
Anyway in the christian religion, sins are not punished by a law, but by God and God forgives the repentant. In Islam (and Jewish religion), sins are punished by the religious law: no forgiveness, repentant or not!

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May 16th, 2011, 3:00 pm

 

65. Aldendeshe said:

“……….Anyway in the christian religion, sins are not punished by a law, but by God and God forgives the repentant. In Islam (and Jewish religion), sins are punished by the religious law: no forgiveness, repentant or not!……”

Which prove the MUNAFIKIN المنافقين المسلمين . In the Quran there are few hundred pages written by Allah and promising that he will bring judgment on evil doers. So why do Moslems judge among themselves. Why not leave it to Allah to carry out his judgment. Would not that be interference in Allah job and double punishment for evil doer? How a Moslem can judge a human when Allah said judgment if for him alone. What if Allah is the one using a person to do evil. The fact is. Moslems are المنافقين المسلمين .They don’t believe in Allah, so they carry own human judgment.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:14 pm

 

66. Usama said:

Interesting. Shelling in Homs reportedly all a lie. How shocking!!!

#62, WD
You think the MB wants to confront Israel? What articles have you been reading? The Egyptian MB leadership have been advocating business as usual with Israel in most of their interviews so far. Read the Angry Arab blog from the past week. You’ll find many examples there. I would never trust the MB, ever.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:17 pm

 

67. Sophia said:

“Massive non-violent protests are aimed at winning international sympathy for the Palestinian perspective, and as a result, forcing Israel to pull out of territories its army has occupied since 1967. As the dust settled Sunday, senior Israeli officers acknowledged their vulnerability to the approach, which dovetails with the strategy of Palestinian leaders to ask the UN General Assembly to recognize a Palestininian state in September.”

I was saying it in the beginning and I am still saying this: Syrian protesters have resorted to violence because they have not been able to draw big masses in the protests. In fact the Tunisian and Egyptian uprisings were so successful because of the non violence of the protesters. Would the Syrian protesters dare do this? No, because they are not drawing crowds. The Syrian revolution is resorting to violence but this violence, even if it topples the regime, which I doubt, is not a good premise for a truly democratic Syria, just as the violence in Iraq and Lybia will not deliver democracy and security for a long time to come.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:18 pm

 

68. why-discuss said:

Jad

Israel accusing the usual culprits! No, it’s Facebook, stupid!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110516/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_palestinians_new_tactic

“Some in Israel suspected that allies of arch-foe Iran, including the Lebanese Hezbollah militia, had a hand in the border breaches or that Syria helped instigate them to divert attention from its brutal crackdown on domestic unrest. In Lebanon’s border area, Hezbollah activists with walkie-talkies directed buses and handed out Palestinian flags.

However, the Palestinians say it was purely their initiative, launched on Facebook several months ago, with heavy involvement by expatriates. “No one expected it to work, and it did work,” said Hazem Abu Hilal, a Palestinian organizer.”

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May 16th, 2011, 3:22 pm

 

69. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

What was it exactly? I’m puzzled.

It wasn’t Syrians storming occupied Syrian land. Those who stormed were Palestinians.
It wasn’t Palestinians storming Palestine, The Golan is not Palestinian. Right?

So not-Syrians storming Syrian land, or Palestinians storming not-Palestinian land?

What was it exactly?
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May 16th, 2011, 3:24 pm

 

70. SF94123 said:

‘Libya is US, China’s battleground’
Monday, 16 May 2011 22:00
The US seeks control of Libyan oil facilities in order to push China and Russia out of the Mediterranean in its quest for world hegemony, says an analyst.

In an interview with Press TV, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former assistant secretary to the US Treasury, elaborates on US strategy to control Chinese and Russian stakes in the Mediterranean in order to regain economic dominance.

PRESS TV May 15, 2011

Press TV: I’d like to get your reaction to a statement by the head of Britain’s armed forces that he’s said that we need to increase the pressure for more intense military action. What further action is he talking about? Is this a prelude to, perhaps, ask for another UN resolution which may go for the famous “boots on the ground” scenario that many analysts said they have feared for Libya?

Roberts: I don’t think the Chinese and Russians would permit that. They went along with the UN resolution because it was only a no-fly resolution; it doesn’t allow the United States and NATO to intervene in the way that they are intervening.

I think this has angered the Russians, and no doubt the Chinese, because this whole enterprise is directed against China. China has very large energy investments in Libyan oil which is in the eastern part of the country, largely.

The Americans were very much disturbed when the International Monetary Fund announced that the Chinese economy would surpass the American economy within five years. So, the Americans are using the fact that they still are the top dog to try to evict China from its African energy resources in order to deny the energy it needs for the continual development of their economy.

This is what the British and the Americans did to Japan in the 1930′s and it’s why World War II in the Pacific began.

So what Libya is about is Washington using the so-called Arab protests to evict China from the Mediterranean, North Africa, where we have oil investments.

That’s why I think that what will happen is Libya will be petitioned. They don’t really care about Gaddafi or any of that; there’s certainly no humanitarian concern.

They do want to deny energy to China. So I think that since the CIA is very active in the eastern rebellion, probably behind it, what Libya faces is some kind of separation from its oil in order to evict China from the Mediterranean. In my opinion, this is what it’s all about.

Press TV: When you talk about the push that the United States has, and one of the motives it has is to further alienate China in terms of the areas resources – as you’ve mentioned, China is vested in Libya – are you saying that there are other countries? We talk about Russia or the Brits, that they can have no say in this? Because, as it stands, we’re looking at, basically, NATO and five partner nations that are implementing this no-fly zone, that includes the United States.

Roberts: I think China and Russia made a mistake because they thought that Washington would respect the meaning of the UN resolution which was simply a “no-fly”; in other words, it was intended to stop Gaddafi from using his air force against the rebels.

But, immediately, the air force was used to attack Gaddafi’s forces from the air, and to try to kill him. They attacked him several times and managed to kill his son and several grandsons by air attacks.

Washington will always put the most expansive possible interpretation on any UN resolution. I’m surprised that China and Russia trusted Washington. But if Washington and the British go back to the UN, I think this time China and Russia will veto it in the Security Council. But, maybe not because neither country is yet ready for a direct confrontation with the United States. It’s not certain that they would veto it.

All of this is directed against China and Russia. That’s what the activity in Syria is about. We know for a fact the United States government has announced and admitted that it supports the opposition in Syria. Why?

Because the Russians have a massive naval base in Syria, it’s undergoing restoration and renovation, but by next year it’s supposed to be completed. The Russians have announced that they’ll be keeping aircraft carriers and guided missile cruisers. That’s not what NATO and Washington wants in the Mediterranean. They do not want a Russian naval presence.

The protests in Syria and Libya, unlike the ones in Egypt and Bahrain, are supported by the United States government because they are directed against China and Russia, and they want them evicted from the Mediterranean. That’s really what this is about.

Press TV: When you talk about how Libya’s oil in the east is being controlled by the revolutionaries, and most likely we have the West in there, I know the transactions of the US Treasury Department is involved in terms of some of the oil transactions as reported. However, based on the scenario that you’ve pointed out, if Libya gets divided at some point, how much of a timeline do you give for the NATO operation?

At the same time, once it divided Libya, what’s going to happen to the West? What plans would the US have for that and, of course, its coalition partners?

Roberts: Western Europe is nothing but American puppet states. The governments don’t serve their own people, they serve Washington.

Washington wants to remain number one; therefore, it’s going to deny China access to oil not just in Libya but also in Nigeria and Angola where the Chinese also have oil investments.

Washington formed what they call the African Command, they call it AFRICOM. And this became effective in 2008, about two and half years ago. It’s a military alliance and it’s directed against China’s economic penetration of Africa. They’ve got all but five African countries to join.

Of course, Gaddafi would not. He said this is the Americans parting an entire continent, and he wouldn’t join it. This is another reason, of course, why he is marked for losing the revenue part of his country. They may leave him with Tripoli but they’re going to take away from him the oil revenues.

Press TV: Can you tell us based on this game plan what is going to stop it from going as smoothly based on the details you’ve provided us?

Roberts: The only thing that will stop the American drive for hegemony is the economic collapse of the United States. This could happen from the abuse of the United States dollar by the United States government and the Federal Reserve because they’re printing dollars now like a third-world banana republic in order to finance the large government deficit.

So, it’s entirely possible that the United States will commit financial suicide and not be able to complete its plans for world hegemony.

Last Updated on Monday, 16 May 2011 22:13

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May 16th, 2011, 3:28 pm

 

71. why-discuss said:

Usama

Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel’
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=206130

Muslim Brotherhood seeks end to Israel treaty
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/3/muslim-brotherhood-seeks-end-to-israel-treaty/

I don’t trust either, they are trying to appear moderates to appease the Arab youth and the western countries but their true nature is well defined in their teachings:

“While the Ikhwan say that they support democratic principles, one of their stated aims is to create a state ruled by Islamic law, or Sharia. Their most famous slogan, used worldwide, is: “Islam is the solution”.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12313405

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May 16th, 2011, 3:31 pm

 

72. AIG said:

Jad and Why-Discuss,

If you want the Golan back why are you sending Palestinians to die in your place? It seems only cowards act this way.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:36 pm

 

73. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

Yesterday’s Golan demonstration was just a warm up. The anniversary of June 6 (Golan occupation) is approaching and I think millions of Syrians should gather in the Golan to condemn the American-backed Israeli occupation of Golan. We will see if the Western media will care about the lives of those Syrian demonstrators as much as it does about the Wahhabi vandals’.

Near-border peaceful demonstrations will never stop until the end of occupation. The Palestinians are considering making them every week. These demonstrations will keep growing until they include millions of people (real demonstrations, not like the fake American-Wahhabi demonstrations).

الشعب يريد تحرير الجولان
الشعب يريد تحرير فلسطين
واحد واحد واحد… إسرائيل وأميركا واحد
عالجنة رايحين شهداء بالملايين

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May 16th, 2011, 3:39 pm

 

74. atassi said:

Aldendeshe

Pass the smoke dude..Pufff…

‫حمص، تلكلخ،
استشهاد ضابط في الجيش برتبة مقدم، و اثنين على الأقل من الجنود، بعد انشقاق عشرات من جنود الجيش بقيادة المقدم الشهيد، سنورد اسمه بعد التأكد منه: و اشتباكهم مع وحدات للجيش و عناصر الأمن‬

Amir in Tel Aviv
it was part of a message Mkhlouf tried to relay to the Israeli ….”this what the area will look if we forced to leave” talk to your friend in Washington

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May 16th, 2011, 3:40 pm

 

75. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

69. AIG,

Nobody “sent” those Palestinians. It is their own revolution. All that Syria did was that it did not prevent them from organizing a peaceful legal demonstration. I thought the US did not like it when the Syrian government quelled revolutions? Yesterday’s Golan demonstrators were angels compared to the Wahhabi demonstrators that the West has been hailing as brave peaceful demonstrators.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:47 pm

 

76. ZIAD said:

Has any of the human rights organizations say anything about Israelis killing unarmed protesters?

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May 16th, 2011, 3:49 pm

 

77. atassi said:

World News
U.S. Condemns Syrian Involvement in Israel
By Jared A. Favole
16 May 2011
14:50
The Wall Street Journal Online
English
Copyright 2011 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

WASHINGTON—The White House on Monday condemned Syria’s involvement in protests along Israel’s border over the weekend that led to the death of at least 13 people and urged the countries to show restraint.

“We are also strongly opposed to the Syrian government’s involvement in inciting yesterday’s protests in the Golan Heights,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday. “Such behavior is unacceptable and does not serve as a distraction from the Syrian government’s ongoing repression of demonstrators in its own country.”

Israeli leaders blamed the Syrian and Iranian governments for orchestrating Sunday’s protests, and the U.S. accused Syria of inciting the violence to distract from its own bloody crackdown. “It seems apparent to us that is an effort to distract attention from the legitimate expression of protest by the Syrian people,” Mr. Carney said.

The clashes on Sunday along Israel’s border came on the anniversary of the country’s founding and marked the most dramatic escalations of violence in the Israel-Palestinian conflict in years. Israeli soldiers opened fire on demonstrators attempting to cross the border into Israel from Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza Strip on Sunday. Israel claimed responsibility for three of the deaths.

Mr. Carney said the White House regrets the loss of life but urged restraint. Israel “like all countries, has the right to prevent unauthorized crossings at its borders. Its neighbors have the responsibility to prevent such activity,” he said.

President Barack Obama is scheduled to meet Friday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Dow Jones & Company, Inc.

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May 16th, 2011, 3:54 pm

 

78. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

68. Amir in Tel Aviv,

This was the shortest way to Palestine for them. I think it was obvious. You don’t need to be very smart to figure that out yourself.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:01 pm

 

79. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

I have to acknowledge and pay a compliment to my Palestinian cousins.

For their choice of non-violent protest. This (relative) non-violence, brings them lots more gains than the violent tactics, that brought then endless stream of defeats.

Obviously, Israel is losing in this propaganda battle. But for the long run, The gains of non-violence vs. the defeats that result from violence and militarism, will have an effect on how struggles are being “fought” in the region. This makes me more optimistic about the future of our, at odds, Middle East.
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May 16th, 2011, 4:03 pm

 

80. Jad said:

تشييع جثامين الشهداء الثلاثة من الجيش الذين استشهدوا برصاص عناصر إجرامية مسلحة في منطقة تلكلخ إلى مثاويهم في الرقة ودير الزور وحمص

محافظات-سانا

شيعت محافظات الرقة ودير الزور وحمص اليوم جثامين ثلاثة شهداء من الجيش استشهدوا برصاص عناصر إجرامية مسلحة امتهنت التهريب والقتل في منطقة تلكلخ بحمص أمس إلى مثواهم الأخير.

ففي محافظة الرقة شيع أهالي قرية الجبلي التابعة لناحية معدان الشهيد العريف باسل فواز الحمادين واستقبل المشيعون جثمانه في مفرق المقص على طريق عام حلب الرقة دير الزور وانطلق الموكب باتجاه مسقط رأسه في قرية الجبلي التي تجمع الآلاف منها ومن القرى المجاورة ونثروا على جثمانه الورود.

بعد ذلك توجه الموكب إلى منزل ذوي الشهيد حيث ألقى ذووه وأقاربه وأصدقاؤه عليه نظرة الوداع الأخير ليوارى الثرى بينما كانت الفرقة الموسيقية تعزف لحني الشهيد ووداعه.

وقال والد الشهيد فواز الحمادين: اليوم تعود إلي ذكرى استشهاد أخي الذي بذل روحه رخيصة تجاه الوطن ليلتحق به ابني باسل مع ركب الشهداء الذين لبوا نداء الواجب وأنا أتشرف بوضع وسام الشهادة على صدري و أقولها بكل فخر واعتزاز.. لقد رفع الشهيد باسل رأسي عاليا وأسأل الله أن يجعل مثواه الجنة مع الصديقين والأبرار.

وقالت ندى الحمادين شقيقة الشهيد باسل إن حناجر النسوة من أهالي القرية تزغرد وكأن أخي عريسا يزفه كل أهل الوطن.. وإنها لحظات لن تغيب عن ذاكرتي ما حييت فطوبى لأخي الذي لبى نداء الوطن وروى بدمه ترابه الطاهر ليكون مع كوكبة الشهداء السبيل إلى عودة الأمن والاستقرار لوطننا الغالي.

وفي دير الزور شيع أهالي قرية بريهة الشهيد العريف عماش محمد الصالح في موكب انطلق من المشفى العسكري بدير الزور بمشاركة عدد كبير من ذوي الشهيد وأبناء قريته وأصدقائه ومحبيه.

وقال والد الشهيد إن ابنه استشهد فداء للوطن وللحفاظ على امن واستقرار سورية وشعبها وأن أولاده الثلاثة فداء للوطن.

فيما تمنى عزيز محمد الصالح أخو الشهيد أن يسلك طريق أخيه في الشهادة فداء للوطن وأرضه المعطاء وشعبه الأبي داعيا الله أن يجعل مثواه الجنة.

وفي محافظة حمص شيع الآلاف من أهالي بلدة صدد والقرى المحيطة بها في موكب شعبي حاشد جثمان الشهيد المجند شادي فارس السبعة.

واستقبل المئات من أهالي القرى الواقعة على الطريق العام المؤدي إلى بلدة صدد موكب الشهيد ونثروا على جثمانه الطاهر الورود وحبات الأرز وعزفت فرق الكشافة لحن وداع الشهيد وسط الهتافات الوطنية التي تحيي الشهادة والشهيد.

وقال فرج فراس السبعة والد الشهيد إن لديه أربعة شباب مشروع شهادة فداء للوطن وإن تشييع شادي اليوم ليس إلا عرسا حقيقيا لأهالي صدد الذين حضروا لوداع شادي بالزغاريد والورود.

بدورها قالت والدة الشهيد: رحم الله شادي الذي يزف اليوم إلى عرسه لأنه استشهد فداء لوطنه ليبقى عزيزا وشامخا مؤكدة أنه لابد من تقديم الشهداء لحماية سورية وشعبها من المخربين الذين روعوا الشعب وقتلوا الشباب.

وأكدت فادية أخت الشهيد وباسل أخ الشهيد أن بلدة صدد عرفت بصدها للعدو عبر الزمان وهي اليوم تقدم الشهيد شادي وستقدم المزيد للوطن ليبقى مستقرا وآمنا وعزيزا.

وكانت مدينة دوما بمحافظة ريف دمشق شيعت أمس جثمان شهيدها البطل خالد جعرش الذي استشهد برصاص الغدر في منطقة تلكلخ.

وقال ابن عم الشهيد جعرش إن استشهاد خالد هو عرس لدوما ونحن نفتخر باستشهاده ونحن خلفه على هذا الطريق.

يذكر أن الشهيد خالد من مواليد دوما عام 1991 وهو عازب ونال شرف الشهادة فيما كان يؤي خدمته الإلزامية.

http://sana.sy/ara/336/2011/05/16/347164.htm

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May 16th, 2011, 4:04 pm

 

81. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

I think that we should also organize huge demonstrations near the occupied Iskandaron province. If the regime is serious about allowing people to demonstrate freely, it must allow us to demonstrate for this important cause. This used to be a national day in Syria but sadly now you can’t even commemorate it. This is extremely weird. How can a government ban its citizens from demanding back an occupied national territory?

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May 16th, 2011, 4:05 pm

 

82. AIG said:

SOURI333,

We all know. Assad can fire rockets, send Palestinians, etc. etc.
Do you worst. The Syrian people deserve freedom like any other people, and your immoral blackmail will not work.

If you think the pressure on Syrian regime is high now, wait till the nuclear file gets rolling and wait for the STL indictments. Syria is going to be a complete pariah state unless Assad agrees to real democratic reforms.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:07 pm

 

83. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

Netanyahu’s speech yesterday was pathetic. I don’t think that there is anybody who buys this “destroying Israel” scarecrow anymore. Those were peaceful demonstrators who just wanted to return to their homes. No one wants to destroy anything. It is shameful and disgraceful that the US still propagates these fascist Israeli claims and supports them. When will the US ever have an ethical standing on this issue?

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May 16th, 2011, 4:10 pm

 

84. Jad said:

They don’t look like smugglers at all :)

بيان الضباط الأحرار في سوريا

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May 16th, 2011, 4:11 pm

 

85. Jad said:

Souri333,
The march of yesterday did put Bibi in the hot seat. He is now under pressure to come up with a peace plan before his next visit to Washington, which is hell for him and his junta you see on here.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:17 pm

 

86. NK said:

why-discuss

I was merely pointing out that extreme punishments are not something exclusive to Islam or invented by profit Mohammad.

I don’t want Sharia law in Syria because I believe a secular law is a better choice (less prone to the misinterpretations/whims of twisted-minded “scholars” ), and not because I believe Islam is an evil religion, there’s a big difference.

Aldendeshe

Following your logic, rapists, murderers and thieves should not be punished because Allah will punish them in the afterlife!.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:21 pm

 

87. AIG said:

SOURI333,

Since when did you ever consider ethics in your thoughts? You are the one advocating war to get the heat of Assad. You are the one supporting one of the most oppressive regimes on earth, a regime that has no qualms about killing its own people and dumping them in mass graves.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:22 pm

 

88. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

82. AIG,

The STL does not scare anybody anymore. It is something from the past. Also I think its mandate ends this year. I can’t see Russia or China agreeing to extend the mandate of this scandalous court for three more years. This tribunal has become a real circus and it is a disgrace to international law. I can’t imagine that Russia will extend its mandate.

As for the “nuclear file,” this is a real joke. The US has been trying extremely hard to make a “nuclear file” for Syria, but they were unsuccessful despite all their intense political pressure. The only country that has a “nuclear file” in the region is the Zionist entity. I think the Arab League countries should collectively suspend their commitment to the NPT until Israel signs it. I can’t understand why they have not done that until now. Perhaps now, in the age of Arab democracy, we will see this step taken.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:24 pm

 

89. Akbar Palace said:

The Scarecrow called 9-11

I don’t think that there is anybody who buys this “destroying Israel” scarecrow anymore.

Souri333,

There are two types of people:

1.) Those that “pray for the end of Israel” and do everything to ensure this comes to fruition, while at the same time, calls this a “scarecrow”.

2.) Those that take the statements and actions of 1.) at their word.

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/hamas-leader-haniyeh-pray-for-the-end-of-israel/

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May 16th, 2011, 4:25 pm

 

90. why-discuss said:

Atasi

#77

This declaration by the White House sounds like a bad joke!
I guess they are confused and don’t know how to react.

Peaceful protests against occupation is “unacceptable’? and the illegal occupation of the Golan is ‘acceptable’?

Or is it a blackmail to Bashar al Assad about his possible inclusion in the next sanctions in he continues encouraging protests against Israel?

“We are also strongly opposed to the Syrian government’s involvement in inciting yesterday’s protests in the Golan Heights,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday. “Such behavior is unacceptable and does not serve as a distraction from the Syrian government’s ongoing repression of demonstrators in its own country.”

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May 16th, 2011, 4:39 pm

 

91. ziadsoury said:

Where did we read about the idea of letting Palestinians loose on the Jolan?

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=8501#comment-242861

The Asad clan can’t implement the full idea because the peole are not with them. They can control the behaviour of a couple of hundreds but not the free people.

BTW, AIG, I am still waiting for an answer.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:47 pm

 

92. Off the Wall said:

Why Discuss
The western world is in shock and denial, they just can’t accept the fact that Palestinians are also part of the arab spring.

Bashar lovers are in shock and denial, they just can’t accept the fact the Syrians are also part of the Arab spring

I am rather comfortable accepting both as equally parts of the Arab Spring.

Amir
Remember Shai, your countryman who was chided by AIG and Akbar for suggesting this same peaceful idea more than two years ago.

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May 16th, 2011, 4:50 pm

 

93. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Mr. Hejazi managed to catch a ride from the Golan to Tel Aviv
(in this video) http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4069666,00.html
Now he demands his “right of return”. I recommend to grant him with a right of return to the Hejaz, his true origin.

OTW,

I wonder where Shai and Yossi are. They disappeared just when the best part of the action started!
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May 16th, 2011, 5:04 pm

 

94. jad said:

مراسل الدنيا: تعرض سيارة شرطة لإطلاق نار من مسلحين في منطقة البياضة بحمص وإصابة 6 عناصر بينهم ضابط برتبة ملازم
2 minutes ago

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May 16th, 2011, 5:04 pm

 

95. Off the Wall said:

Off course with full credit for originality to ZIADSOURY as well.

ZIADSOURY:
The difference is between cynical and sincere. Sincere can implement a full idea, a cynical will only use others or what they do for his own purposes. But I really do not think that the Dynasty will be able to use this one. Their attempt to use it and direct it to their favor is already backfiring on them in the wider Arab public opinion, which by now thinks squat of them and their fake resistance. The reason I also tend to think that the Palestinians descent was genuine is because today, there were several arrests in Jordan in the Zarga camps, which goes to show that the idea was a genuine idea and that it was part of the Arab spring. That said, I find it odd that the descenders (a name which i think really fits those heroes) from Syria into the Jolan were all Palestinians, where were the Jolani Syrians, who still yearn for their land. This is also noticed by many other Arabs.

BTW: Good to see you posting again, even a short one.

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May 16th, 2011, 5:09 pm

 

96. why-discuss said:

OTW

Syrians are part of the Arab spring, no one ever denied it. It has manifested itself in very different forms, the award for ‘Best Arab Spring’ goes to Tunisia and Egypt because the leaders were ripe and fell at the first shake of the united peaceful demonstrators. The problem is that the coming ‘summer’ is getting polluted by foreign elements and more violent.
In other countries, Syria, Bahrain, Libya, Yemen, the leaders were less ripe, the demonstrators less united and the pollution and violence started much earlier.
Let’s see which one will get the ‘Best Arab Summer’ award.

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May 16th, 2011, 5:12 pm

 

97. Syria no kandahar said:

Another mile stone in Syrian delurevolution
20 min ago.Syrian students in Pakistan(9.5students)have resigned from Syria students union.they have decided to join Pakistani Taliban .this is in addition to Asala nasri(which had surgery done by Assad sr account) joining the delurevolution earlier.Allah Akbar.Artooz prayers in the work.
NB:Asala will not join Pakistani Taliban for now she likes Cairo .she is 95%egyption and was born in Syria by mistake.

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May 16th, 2011, 5:13 pm

 

98. Off the Wall said:

Jad
Please find another name for bibi’s gang. Junta is reserved for those surrounding the Assads Dynasty.

Amir
I really think they do not want to interfere in internal Syrian issue. Their position, I would think, would be off course to support the freedom for Syrians and Palestinians. And they have said it often enough and probably do not want to re-iterate it countless times to those who are incapable of hearing it. Don’t you think they are the wiser?

Another possibility is that they are Saudi agents recruiting Syrian bloggers into Bandar-Israel-Qatar-US-Asala Nasri-Hariri-Yemeni-Egyptian-NeoCon-Communist-Taliban-Hindu plans and the have SUCCEEDED.. And there is no need for their services anymore.

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May 16th, 2011, 5:19 pm

 

99. AIG said:

ZIADSOURY,

I wish you success in your plan. It it were at all possible it would have been done by Hamas in Gaza. Instead of asking hypothetical questions about situations that are never going to arise, I suggest you do something pragmatic.

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May 16th, 2011, 5:26 pm

 

100. why-discuss said:

Israel hunts Syria infiltrators after day of bloodshed

Is it Syria’s strategy to try to send some of the 500,000 palestinians back to their home in Israel?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110516/wl_afp/israelpalestiniansconflictnakba
….Israeli media identified the fourth Palestinian as Hassan Hijazi, 28, an employee of the Syrian education ministry.

Interviewed by Israel’s privately owned Channel 10 television, Hijazi spoke of his pride at making it to Jaffa, his ancestral hometown, now a mixed Arab-Jewish district of greater Tel Aviv.

“This isn’t Israel, this is my country,” he said. “I don’t want to go back to Syria. I want to stay here where my father and my great-grandfather were born and bring my family here.”

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May 16th, 2011, 5:31 pm

 

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