News Round Up (27 April 2011)

The epic Arab battle reaches Syria
By Rami G. Khouri

Syria is now the critical country to watch in the Arab world, after the homegrown regime changes in Tunisia and Egypt, and the imminent changes in Yemen and Libya.

The Syrian regime headed by President Bashar Assad is now seriously challenged by a combination of strong forces within and outside the country. His current policy of using force to quell demonstrators and making minimal reform promises has lost him credibility with many of his own citizens, largely due to his inability to respond to his citizens’ reasonable demands for democratic governance. His downfall is not imminent, but is now a real possibility.
The next few weeks will be decisive for Assad, because in the other Arab revolts the third-to-sixth weeks of street protests were the critical moment that determined whether the regime would collapse or persist. Syria is now in its fourth week. Having lost ground to street demonstrators recently, the Assad-Baathist-dominated secular Arab nationalist state’s response in the weeks ahead will likely determine whether it will collapse in ruins or regroup and live on for more years.

Assad should recognize many troubling signs that add up to a threatening trend. The number and size of demonstrations have grown steadily since late March, making this a nationwide revolt. Protesters’ demands have hardened, as initial calls for political reform and anti-corruption measures now make way for open calls for the overthrow of the regime and the trial of the ruling elite. Some portraits and statues of the current and former president are being destroyed, and government buildings attacked. More protesters openly call for the security services to be curbed – an unprecedented and important sign of the widespread popular loss of fear of security agencies that always bodes ill for such centralized systems of power.

Many of the Syrian protest leaders and human rights groups are coordinating to form a unified movement that makes coherent demands of the regime, reflecting widespread indigenous citizen concerns that cannot be credibly dismissed as the work of Islamic radicals or foreign agents. Shooting the protesters has failed to stop them, and has only brought out larger crowds on subsequent days – especially when mourners in funerals for yesterday’s dead are themselves shot dead. A few public figures have resigned in protest at the use of arms against demonstrators, and the several reform concessions by Assad seem to have been widely dismissed.

Assad’s big problem is that Syrians continue to express greater populist defiance of the regime, rather than compliance with either its political promises or its hard police measures. The core elements of the regime that he and his father have managed for over 40 years are now all being challenged openly and simultaneously, including the extended Assad family, the Baath Party apparatus, the government bureaucracy, and the numerous security agencies. These form a multi-layered but integrated power system whose center of gravity and policy coordination is the president. We are unlikely to see a Tunisian or Egyptian model of the security agencies abandoning the president to drift and be thrown out of power, while they remain in place. In Syria, either the entire system asserts itself and remains in control – with or without real reforms – or it is changed in its entirety.

Here is where the Assad government and power structure play on some of their assets. The two most significant ones are that: 1) most Syrians do not want to risk internal chaos or sectarian strife (a la Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen or Somalia) and might opt to remain with the Assad-dominated system that has brought them stability without democracy; and, 2) any changes in regime incumbency or policies in Syria will have enormous impact across the entire region and beyond, given Syria’s structural links or ongoing political ties with every major conflict and actor in the region, especially Lebanon and Hizbullah, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Palestine and Hamas, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. Regime overthrow in Syria will trigger significant, cumulative and long-lasting repercussions in the realms of Arab-Israeli, Arab-Iranian, inter-Arab and Arab-Western relations, with winners and losers all around.

For some, this makes the Assad regime the Middle Eastern equivalent of the banks that were too big to allow to collapse during the American economic crisis three years ago, because the spillover effect would be too horrible to contemplate. The specter of sectarian-based chaos within a post-Assad Syria that could spread to other parts of the Middle East is frightening to many people. Yet many, perhaps most, Syrians indicate with their growing public protests that they see their current reality as more frightening – especially the lack of democracy, widespread corruption, human rights abuses, one-party rule, economic and environmental stress, excessive security dominance and burgeoning youth unemployment.

The epic battle between regime security and citizen rights that has characterized the modern Arab world for three long and weary generations enters its most important phase in Syria in the coming few weeks, with current Arab regional trends suggesting that citizens who collectively and peacefully demand their human and civil rights cannot be denied.

Rami G. Khouri is published twice weekly by THE DAILY STAR.

Global condemnation, but no action, against bloody Syria crackdown

By Liz Sly, April 26, Wash Post

BEIRUT — Syrian troops sustained their bloody crackdown against anti-government protesters in the southern town of Daraa for a second day Tuesday, drawing harsh condemnations but no specific plans for action against Damascus from U.S. and European leaders.

Reports from Daraa were sketchy because telephone lines were cut, the town was surrounded and the nearby border with Jordan was closed, but residents contacted by human rights groups indicated that government opponents were holding out in a mosque in the center of the town against an onslaught by government soldiers using tanks and armored personnel carriers…..

Agonist: Inside the Obama team’s “shift” on Syria
2011-04-26

Josh Rogin | April 26 FP [1] – The Obama administration is preparing a wide range of new actions to condemn the Syrian government’s brutal violence against protesters. However, U.S. officials still remain skeptical that they have the leverage to …

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came under criticism for her March 27 statement, “Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe [Assad]’s a reformer.”

But based on the information at the time, most inside the administration didn’t feel she had said anything wrong. Multiple administration officials told The Cable that the administration had simply concluded, incorrectly, that the Syrian crisis would never grow this serious. That judgment informed their go-slow approach in responding to the protests.

But one month later, as the protest movement has gained strength and spread to cities throughout Syria, nobody inside the Obama administration is saying that now.

“A lot of people were wrong. The general assessment [inside the administration] was that this wouldn’t happen, that Assad was too good at nipping these movements in the bud and also that he was not afraid to be brutal,” one administration official said. “All of these things combined made this more of a surprise and made it much harder to deal with.”

Tom Donilon’s Arab Spring challenge
By David Ignatius, Tuesday, April 26, 8:00 PM

Tom Donilon, President Obama’s national security adviser, has a reputation as a “process guy,” meaning that he runs an orderly decision-making system at the National Security Council, and as a “political guy” with a feel for Capitol Hill and the media.

Now, facing the rolling crisis of the Arab Spring, Donilon has had to transform into the ultimate “policy guy” — coordinating administration strategy for a revolution that will alter the foreign-policy map for decades.

U.S. strategy is still a work in progress. That’s the consensus among some leading Donilon-watchers inside and outside the government. The national security adviser has tried to shape Obama’s intuitive support for the Arab revolutionaries into a coherent line. But as the crisis has unfolded, there has been tension between American interests and values, and a communications-oriented NSC staff has sometimes seemed to oscillate between the two.

“The focus is more on how it plays than on what to do,” says one longtime friend of Donilon. He credits Donilon as “a very smart political person” who has brought order to the planning process. But he cautions: “Tom is not a strategist. He’s a pol. That’s the heart of what he is and does.”

Another member of the inner circle similarly credits Donilon as “very inclusive of all the principals in the decision-making process.” But he worries that this White House is too focused on “message management.”

The uprisings in Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, Yemen and now Syria all embody the tension between U.S. interests and values, and Obama has leaned different ways. With Egypt and Libya, the White House voted its values and supported rebellion and change; with Bahrain and Yemen, the administration, while sympathetic to reform, has embraced its interests in the stability of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain’s neighbor, and in a Yemen that is an ally against al-Qaeda.

The mix is pragmatic, which seems to suit both Obama and Donilon. Yet it sometimes frustrates ideologues on both sides who want a more systematic line. My instinct is that the White House is right to be pragmatic, and for that reason should avoid making so many public pronouncements: This is an evolving crisis, and each country presents a different set of issues; a one-size-fits-all policy approach would be a mistake.

The biggest test may come in Syria, where President Bashar al-Assad has launched a ruthless crackdown. Here, U.S. values and interests would seem to coincide in the fall of Assad, who is Iran’s key Arab ally and maintains a repressive, anti-American regime. But there are dangers: Assad’s fall could bring a sectarian bloodbath. So far, Donilon seems to be holding a middle ground to allow maximum U.S. flexibility.

In an interview in his West Wing office last week, Donilon outlined his basic strategic framework. It begins with Obama’s intuitive feel for these issues. Back in January when the Arab revolts began, Obama admonished his NSC advisers, preoccupied with other issues: “You need to get on this!”

Donilon cites four guidelines that have shaped the administration’s response ever since: First, the Arab revolt is a “historic” event, comparable to the fall of the Ottoman Empire or the post-1945 decolonization of the Middle East; second, “no country is immune” from change; third, the revolution has “deep roots” in poor governance, demographics and new communications technology; and fourth, “these are indigenous events” that can’t be dictated by America, Iran or any other outside power.

Donilon also stresses that this process of change is just beginning. “We’re in the early chapters,” he says, warning that the United States should be careful not to take actions now that it might regret down the road, as situations change and new players emerge.

A useful reality check for Donilon was his trip this month to Saudi Arabia, which had been traumatized by Obama’s abandonment of deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and America’s initial support for Bahrain’s Shiite protesters. Donilon met with Saudi King Abdullah for more than two hours and gave him a personal letter from Obama. The reassuring message, he says, was about “the bond we have in a relationship of 70 years that’s rooted in shared strategic interest.”

Donilon is preoccupied now by Syria. He doesn’t want to talk details of policy but says the administration will follow its basic principles of opposing violent repression and supporting reform. He says Assad made a disastrous mistake being “constipated” about change. As for a Libya-style intervention, Donilon seems dubious that a military option in Syria is available or advisable.

Luna Shibel, the Syrian anchor who resigned from Aljazeera talks about the bias and lack of professionalism of Aljazeera in its Syria coverage. Ayman Abdalnour points out that Luna Shibel is an Alawite.

Uprising exposes Syria’s economic weaknesses
By Abigail Fielding-Smith in Beirut and Lina Saigol in London
April 26 2011 22:30 | Financial Times

The protest movement rocking Syria for over a month, and the security forces’ brutal and increasingly militarised response to it, are already exposing vulnerabilities in the Syrian economy.

Decades of central planning under the Ba’ath party’s rule have left Syria with few competitive industries and soaring unemployment. Official estimates put the unemployment rate at about 8 per cent, but analysts say the real figure is much higher.

“(The government’s) plan was foreign investment and tourism, both of which don’t proliferate if you have a civil war,” said Joshua Landis, a Syria expert at Oklahoma University. “Eventually things will fall apart.”

Bashar al-Assad, the president, launched Syria’s economic liberalisation in 2006 with the aim of shifting the country’s centralised economy towards a greater degree of market freedom. Some economic reforms, including the creation of a stock exchange and opening the banking sector to private banks, have been introduced.

But a rising budget deficit, water shortages, declining oil production and rising unemployment have all hampered economic growth. In eastern Syria, for example, five years of low rainfall helped plunge 800,000 people into extreme poverty, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

Mr Assad has blamed the country’s economic malaise on world food inflation, as well as the influx of Iraqi refugees in recent years, all of which have added to the strain of the economy.

But critics of the regime say economic liberalisation has benefited a group of elite businessmen, such as Rami Makhlouf, Mr Assad’s maternal first cousin who controls a significant amount of the economy, including SyriaTel, the country’s mobile network operator.

Nor has the country’s state-controlled economy been conducive to foreign investment, which has been deterred by bureaucratic red tape, inefficiency and political interference. The government has retained control of strategic industries, such as oil production and refining, telecommunications, air transport, and power generation, as well as the price of key agricultural goods.

Syria is ranked 144 out of 183 in the latest World Bank’s latest Ease of Business report, while the CIA World Factbook calculates that it requires 26 procedures to build a warehouse in the country.

In recent years, however, as Syria’s diplomatic relations with the west and regional powers such as Saudi Arabia improved, there were some grounds for hope that Mr Assad might achieve the 5 per cent growth target required to generate desperately needed new jobs each year by boosting foreign direct investment and bringing in 12m tourists annually. Tourism increased by 40 per cent last year, contributing an estimated 15 per cent of GDP and generating more than $7bn of revenues.

Now the hotels of Damascus and Aleppo stand almost empty, as images of protests and violent attacks by security forces are shown on television screens around the world. An auction for Syria’s third mobile phone licence, scheduled to take place this month, and seen as a key indicator of foreign companies’ interest in the Syrian market, was postponed indefinitely after three companies pulled out.

Cross-border trade is also said to have been hard-hit by transport delays caused by security-related road closures. “Deliveries have been delayed,” said Avo Tutunjian, a Lebanese businessman who exports electrical goods to Syria. Mr Tutunjian said he was slowing down new investments with Syrian partners, explaining, “We’re in a ‘wait and see’ phase”.

There are also widespread concerns that the populist economic measures introduced by Mr Assad earlier this year, such as salary increases for public workers, will raise the budget deficit to unmanageable levels, and the Syrian pound is said to have slipped slightly against the dollar on the black market since protests began, although stopping a greater increase is thought to have come at a high cost to the central bank.

With publicly available data scarce, it is hard to assess the exact scale of the economic impact of the uprising, but Syria’s ability to absorb it is not infinite, say analysts. “It depends on how long it lasts,” said Samir Saifan, an independent economic consultant. “If it is just a few weeks, it’s manageable. If it lasts for more time, we don’t know.”

The Real Struggle for the Regime Comes After the Crack Down
CNN – “Global Public Square”
Editor’s Note: The following is an edited portion of an interview by Amar C. Bakshi with Joshua Landis, author of the blog Syria Comment and the director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma.

Assad moves from promising reform to unleashing violence

In his speech to parliament on April 16, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad drew a line in the sand. He said ‘I’ve given you all these concessions’ and he enumerated them – a new government, lifting emergency rules and the end of the security courts – ‘so there should now be no more demonstrations.’ But the movement didn’t stop. In fact, it transcended the demand for reform and became a call for regime change.

So Assad redefined the protestors. He and the Baath Party began to call the protests a ‘rebellion’ and the protestors ‘terrorists’.

In the subsequent days, Bashar al-Assad sought to ‘shock and awe’ the protestors through violence. He took a page right out of any standard military handbook, which is that if you go fast and strong you have better luck at stopping protests before bloodshed gets out of hand.

But Assad cannot win over the long-term

But even if Bashar al-Assad wins in the short-term and the opposition can’t mount the sort of operation necessary to overturn him and take on the military, the opposition is not going to give up. It’s going to continue to demonstrate. And we’re probably going to see the arming of the opposition groups.

All of this is going to undermine the economic footing of the regime. Syria’s economy is already extraordinarily weak. We’re seeing massive unemployment. 32% of Syrians live on $2.00 a day or less. The young people are the ones who are turning out in big numbers for these demonstrations.

The country is midway on its move away from socialism toward an open market system. Syria has instituted a stock market, a bond market, a private banking system and insurance companies – the whole gamut of free-market reforms.

These were supposed to stimulate the economy and place Syria on a new footing that would create jobs and begin to mop up some of its large unemployment problem created by the youth bulge and by an economy that’s been anemic for decades.

Attracting foreign investment and growing tourism and transit trade were key to that economic growth plan. But none of those things are going to materialize now. That means that the regime is going to be able to provide less and less of the things that it needs to provide to stay in power. There is going to be a grinding disintegration of the state’s ability to provide services for its people.

The middle class will abandon Assad as the economy weakens

Currently, the broad middle class in Syria is still sticking with the regime. But the broad middle class, particularly the urban middle class in places like Damascus, has stayed home. They have not come out and joined the movement. There has been no Tahrir Square moment in this uprising. That’s because the middle class fears a civil war and because some of them have vested interests in the state.

Over time, that middle class will begin to abandon the government once it begins failing economically. If there’s no foreign investment and there’s no tourism and nobody’s bills are being paid, the whole economy will begin to freeze up.

That’s what all my businessmen friends are saying: they’re not getting any checks in the door because everybody is holding their cash and because they don’t know what’s going to happen. You can’t run a country like that.

American sanctions will hurt Assad

The U.S. is going to be driven by ideology on this – to support the Arab Spring and freedom and democracy. That means placing sanctions, withdrawing embassy staff and trying to isolate Syria and undermine the regime diplomatically.

But this doesn’t mean democracy in Syria. It means a collapse of the state and probably a civil war.

America is not going to be willing to send in any military. So this puts America in a rather bad position of kicking out the supports of the present state without being willing to build up any alternative.

A sectarian civil war could start

Over time the opposition groups will begin to go to arms. There are arms in Syria. There are also arms in Iraq and Lebanon, along with smuggling rings that have been operating in Syria for decades.

We saw how porous the Iraqi border with Syria was during America’s invasion of Iraq. Al Qaeda and others were streaming across that border. Arms will go the other direction, undoubtedly, as well. All this will fuel a civil war that will be largely sect against sect – majority Sunnis against ruling minority Alawites.

Drawing on the diffused opposition

The great strength of the opposition today is it has no leadership, which means that the regime cannot arrest its leaders and stop it. The real leadership of the opposition are lots of young activists who are in their 20s and early 30s who are working the computers and also organizing on the ground, getting out these demonstrations. But there is no unified leadership that has common goals.

So far they’ve been able to stick with the notion of democracy and freedom as the major demands, which everybody can subscribe to whether they’re from the Muslim Brotherhood or they’re secular, Europeanized university graduates.

But if the state cracks down, as it’s doing now, it’s going to make it very hard to carry out demonstrations and the opposition is going to have to figure out what their next move is. Some will choose to go for a military option because that’s what they’re being met with.

The government is now trying to arrest leadership and it will go after networks and so forth but it will be hard because a lot of new networks have been established. This young generation has become organized.

The Syrian intelligence knows very little about this young generation. It never had to contend with the young generation, which was completely depoliticized a month ago.

Syrian intelligence dealt with the older generations – the old Communists and others – who they kept on throwing in the clink and then letting out every few years. They played rope-a-dope with those guys. They knew where they lived and they were listening to their phones and they you knew they could roll them up easily.

This is a whole new world. The opposition just blew up. Facebook, Twitter and the video effect have been monstrous. It’s mobilized this generation. In three months that this Arab Spring has been going on, the Syrian younger generation has turned from being a rather apathetic crowd that were materialistic, uninterested in politics and atomized, to being deeply mobilized and galvanized around this movement.

Great consequences for the region

Syria is the cockpit of the Middle East. It has borders with most of America’s major allies in the region: Israel, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, and it might as well have one with Saudi Arabia because the Jordanian border is small in between those two. And it will be Saudis that undoubtedly fund much of the opposition as they did in Iraq.

Saudi Arabia will be sucked into this and it’ll be very torn because the monarchy does not want revolution in Syria by any means. It wants stability. But there will be many Saudis who see this as an opportunity to get rid of the Shiite regime that’s pro-Iranian and anti-Sunni. They see the current regime as deeply heterodox and non-Muslim. So all the Wahabi instincts will be to bring down this regime. The monarchical instincts will be to support it.

There aren’t good outcomes for Assad because even if Assad manages to terrify the opposition to stop in the short-term, over the long-term it’s going to kill the economy, which was key to Assad’s plans because his mantra was that he was going to be like China and follow China’s model. He was going to keep one-party rule and he was going to liberalize the economy. But he was too little, too late. He didn’t create jobs. He didn’t get growth up beyond five-percent. That’s what he needed to do.

Ehsani:

The performance of the stock market is a complicated story. Many of the stocks do not trade given the maximum allowable 3% daily move. One has to be careful when looking at the “index”. Individual stock performances tell a better one. Since the end of January, the overall index is down 28%. If you look at the stock of Qatar National Bank for example (QNBS) which traded today, it is down close to 38% since the end of January.

The Syria Lobby Why Washington keeps giving a pass to the Assad regime.
Wall Street Journal Opinion

How does a small, energy-poor and serially misbehaving Middle Eastern regime always seem to get a Beltway pass? Conspiracy nuts and other tenured faculty would have us believe that country is Israel, though the Jewish state shares America’s enemies and our democratic values. But the question really applies to Syria, where the Assad regime is now showing its true nature.

Washington’s Syria Lobby is a bipartisan mindset. “The road to Damascus is a road to peace,” said Nancy Pelosi on a 2007 visit to Syria as House Speaker. Former Secretary of State James Baker is a longtime advocate of engagement …

When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?
Townhall.com ^ | April 26, 2011 | Pat Buchanan
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

One month before the invasion of Iraq, Riah Abu el-Assal, a Palestinian and the Anglican bishop of Jerusalem at the time, warned Tony Blair, “You will be responsible for emptying Iraq, the homeland of Abraham, of Christians.”

The bishop proved a prophet. “After almost 2,000 years,” writes the Financial Times, “Iraqi Christians now openly contemplate extinction. Some of their prelates even counsel flight.”

The secular despot Saddam Hussein protected the Christians. But the U.S. liberation brought on their greatest calamity since the time of Christ. Scores of thousands of those Iraqi Christians fleeing terrorism and persecution after 2003 made their way to Syria, where they received sanctuary from President Bashar Assad.

Now, as the FT and Washington Post report, the Christians of Syria, whose forebears have lived there since the time of Christ, are facing a pogrom should the Damascus regime fall.

Christians are 10 percent of Syria’s population, successful and closely allied to the minority Alawite regime of the Assad family. Said one Beirut observer, “Their fear is that if the regime falls to the Sunni majority, they will be put up against the same wall as the Alawites.”

For decades, notes the Post, the Assad regime “has protected Christian interests by enforcing its strictly secular program and by curbing the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Syria Tries to Defend Its Record to United Nations
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR n NYTimes

UNITED NATIONS — Syria, facing mounting global pressure over its decisions to move tanks into cities against its own citizens and to shoot unarmed demonstrators, tried to defend its record against blunt denunciations from the United States and others on Tuesday at the United Nations, where the Security Council is struggling to forge a collective response.

Ambassador Bashar Jaafari, the Syrian envoy, repeated the government’s claim that the unrest at home was the work of as yet unidentified foreign agitators trying to undermine Syria’s stability and that armed infiltrators were responsible for the shooting of protesters.

“This unrest and riots in some of their aspects have hidden agendas,” Mr. Jaafari told reporters. “Some armed groups take advantage of the demonstrations; they get within the demonstrators and start shooting on the military men and the security forces. This is why there are many casualties.”

Mr. Jaafari also defended President Bashar Assad’s record, saying that more political reforms were coming on the heels of Mr. Assad’s decision to lift the emergency law.

“President Assad is a reformer himself, and he should be given the chance to fulfill his mission in reforming the political life in the country,” he said.

Government opponents openly mock both assertions. Syrians, not foreign agitators, are demanding basic freedoms that have been denied them for the 40 years in which the Assad family has run the country, they say. Although Mr. Assad, 45, promised reform when he inherited the presidency from his father 11 years ago, he has put none in place — instead, they say, the government has strangled any nascent reform movement by jailing its leaders for years.

But efforts by the Security Council to issue the mildest of statements criticizing Syria was postponed until at least Wednesday afternoon. Several member states — Russia, China and Lebanon — seemed firmly opposed, diplomats said, although the ambassadors of China and Lebanon would only note that further discussion was scheduled.

Al-Diyar has a story about al-Qaida’s plans for Syria based on Jamestown reports and those of Musaab al-Suri and other al-Qaida leaders. [in Arabic]

The English-language version of the official news website of the Syrian government is currently reporting that on Tuesday 26 April, fifteen members of the government’s security forces were buried. It names the 15 names, and each’s date of birth, place of birth, and marriage status at the time of death; and it says each was “killed by armed criminal groups” and each body was “escorted in solemn procession”…..

The Arab League backs the protestors against al-Assad
2011-04-26

William Hague has chimed in on the situation in Syria, unsurprisingly condemning the horror and bloodshed being perpetrated by al-Assad’s regime. But considerably more significant is the statement that has today been released by the Arab League. Although the text doesn’t mention al-Assad by name, it clearly has the Syrian autocrat in mind when it calls on “Arab regimes and governments to commit to and speed up reforms, [and to] immediately stop using force against demonstrators and spare their citizens bloodshed.” And it goes further, too, in defending the political — and moral — legitimacy of the protests, saying that the unrest blazing across the Middle East heralds “a new Arab era … led by youths seeking a better present and a brighter future.”

The Syrian governemnt has invited a UN mission to Syria to evaluate the real situation independently. Human right commission is ‘impatient’ to see what is going on. Le Monde 26 april

New poll finds that Egyptians are full of hope about their future, and free and fair elections this fall.

US Urges Americans to Leave Syria Amid Violence, Draws Down Diplomatic Presence

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51. why-discuss said:

Aqoul

I had a lot of insults for you but then I realized that no one curses monkeys who can’t read.

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52. norman said:

This might explain the shift, as i said , the opposition should ride president Assad co tail for reform,

2011-04-27 12:52:22

الرئيس الاسد واردوغان يبحثان في اتصال هاتفي تطورات الأحداث في سورية

تلقى الرئيس بشار الأسد، يوم الثلاثاء، اتصالاً هاتفياً من رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب أردوغان، تم خلاله بحث التطورات الأخيرة التي شهدتها الأحداث في سورية.

وذكرت وكالة أنباء الأناضول أن ” الرئيس بشار الأسد تلقى اتصالاً هاتفياً من رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب أردوغان، تم خلاله بحث التطورات الأخيرة التي شهدتها الأحداث في سورية”.

وتشهد عدة مدن سورية تظاهرات مجموعات من المواطنين، منذ أكثر من شهر، تتركز في أيام الجمعة، يرفعون خلالها بعض المطالب المعاشية ومطالب تتعلق بالحريات العامة وتنادي للحرية والإصلاح، فيما تزامن خروج بعض المظاهرات بحوادث إطلاق نار من قبل مجهولين راح ضحيتها العشرات، ونسبت هذه الأعمال إلى “عصابات مسلحة وقوى خارجية تريد زعزعة استقرار سوريا”، بحسب المصادر الرسمية.

وكان أردوغان أجرى نهاية الشهر الماضي اتصالا هاتفيا مع الرئيس الأسد، أشاد فيه بالقرارات الإصلاحية التي اتخذتها القيادة السورية، موضحا وقوف تركيا إلى جانب سورية ومتانة العلاقات السورية التركية.

كما عبرت تركيا، في وقت سابق، عبر وزير خارجيتها أحمد داود أوغلو خلال زيارته إلى سورية، عن دعمها لجملة الإصلاحات التي بدأتها القيادة السورية، مبديا استعداد تركيا لتقديم كل مساعدة ممكنة من خبرات وإمكانيات لتسريع هذه الإصلاحات، بما يساهم في ازدهار الشعب السوري وتعزيز أمنه واستقراره.

وكان الرئيس بشار الأسد أصدر مؤخراً مراسيم تتعلق برفع الرواتب والأجور للعامين بالدولة, وتشميل المتقاعدين بالتامين الصحي, ورفع حالة الطوارئ وإلغاء محكمة أمن الدولة، وتنظيم التظاهر السلمي, إضافة إلى تشكيل لجنة للتحقيق بالأحداث التي شهدتها عدة مدن سورية بينها درعا واللاذقية ودوما.

وتسير العلاقات السورية التركية بوتائر متنامية وخاصة على الصعيد السياسي الذي يتميز بالتنسيق المستمر بين قيادتي البلدين، إضافة إلى الجانب الاقتصادي إذ ألغى البلدان سمات الدخول بين مواطنيهما وجرى تطبيقه منذ أيلول 2009، تلاه الإعلان عن تأسيس مجلس تعاون استراتيجي عالي المستوى بين سورية وتركيا.

يذكر أن الرئيس الأسد تلقى مؤخراً اتصالات هاتفية من قادة عرب عبروا خلالها عن دعم بلادهم لسورية في وجه ما تتعرض له من محاولات لزعزعة أمنها واستقرارها.

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April 27th, 2011, 11:33 am

 

53. why-discuss said:

– Turkey to submit a plan for reforms to Bashar Al Assad
– The largest meeting of opposition leaders meet for the first time in Turkey and ask the international community to “convince” Bashar al Assad to stop the violence ‘against civilians’

Le Monde 27 april

La Turquie, qui a rappelé son ambassadeur pour consultations, a annoncé l’envoi prochain d’une délégation à Damas, chargée de remettre un plan de réformes au leader syrien. Le premier ministre turc, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, s’est entretenu par téléphone avec Bachar Al-Assad, pour la 3e fois depuis le début des manifestations, pour l’inciter à avancer sur la voie d’une démocratisation . “J’ai dit en des termes très clairs au cours de mon entretien avec M. Al-Assad notre inquiétude, nos craintes, notre inconfort face aux récents événements”, a déclaré M. Erdogan, cité par l’agence Anatolie, pendant une conférence de presse commune avec son homologue kirghize, Almazbek Atambïev.

Le journal Zaman note qu’Erdogan s’était entretenu au téléphone avec Barack Obama lundi. Selon Cumhuriyet Washington a demandé à Ankara d’intervenir auprès de Bachar -al-Assad. En coulisses, Ahmet Davutoglu tente de peser sur le déroulement des événements en Syrie. Sans succès pour le moment.

Devant l’escalade de la violence, des membres de l’opposition syrienne, réunis mardi 26 avril à Istanbul, ont demandé à la communauté internationale de les aider à convaincre le président Al-Assad de mettre fin à la répression. “S’ils veulent nous aider, nos amis en Occident, en Turquie, dans le monde arabe peuvent le faire en exerçant un maximum de pression sur le régime syrien afin qu’il cesse de s’en prendre aux civils”, a dit Anas Abdah, président du Mouvement pour la justice et le développement, situé en Grande-Bretagne. C’est le premier rassemblement d’opposants syriens d’une telle ampleur. Les dirigeants des frères muslmans syriens s’étaient déjà rendus plusieurs fois à Istanbul, à l’invitation de l’IHH .

Ankara s’inquiète d’un possible afflux de réfugiés syriens à sa frontière méridionale. Les régions limitrophes se préparent à cette éventualité. La Turquie craint des infiltrations de militants du PKK retranchés en Syrie. De nombreux Kurdes syriens sont engagés dans la guérilla.

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April 27th, 2011, 11:45 am

 

54. Mina said:

Sean,
It’s like asking the Lebanese millionaires why they don’t invest in their country’s economy and why some areas still have electricity and water shortages.
Some people prefer to invest money where they know it produces interests: the Gulf, Europe, the US.
Syrian economy has ben at a standstill for a year with tourists but not enough hostels, with too many shops for too little visitors. It is also a structural problem. Have you ever visited the Hamidiyye and the old Damascus and Aleppo markets? If you know how many people are supposed to be fed from each person in each shop, you would suggest them they study the meaning of business concentration in economy.
Something I heard a lot in the last twelve months was that with the Iraq unrest and Netanyahu in Israel no one was ready to invest a penny in any project. Housing was a little bit moving but that was another bubble. You cannot read the events in the Middle East (and understand why the “Empire goes at war”) if you disconnect it from the financial crisis.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:09 pm

 

55. why-discuss said:

Anas Abdah, president of the Movement for justice and development,

Wikileaks : MURKY ALLIANCES: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, THE MOVEMENT
FOR JUSTICE AND DEMOCRACY, AND THE DAMASCUS DECLARATION

http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2009/07/09DAMASCUS477.html

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April 27th, 2011, 12:17 pm

 

56. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

#41. haz

Developing a common national identity does not mean erasing the religious and ethnic fault lines. A national identity and a religious/ethnic identity are not mutually exclusive like you seem to think. In your description of the European historical development you totally ignored the issue of national identity. This is the problem I was describing for the half-educated parrots– they have no clue what a nation-state is and they do not understand how the Western countries became the way they are.

A national identity requires me to accept that I am equal to my fellow citizens in the way we belong to a country, that is, there must not be different categories of citizens whereby some subjects are seen as more national than others. The Islamists refuse this notion and insist on the feudal pre-national model, whereby every subject of the state identifies by religion rather by nationality. The Islamists cannot accept a Christian as a totally equal partner of a Muslim in citizenship. They believe such a model of nationality to be blasphemous. They insist on the model of a “Muslim state” rather than a national state, just like how the Zionists have their “Jewish state” in Palestine. The difference between us and the Islamists is not a political difference that can be resolved in a political process—it is a “national” conflict. The Islamists refuse to identify as a single nation with us. They alienate us and want to enslave us. They want us to be subjects in THEIR state instead of us all being equal subjects in a common national state. This is a national struggle. Those who call for the Islamists to be allowed into a “democratic political process” do not understand anything in democracy or politics.

What everybody believes and does at home does not matter for a national identity, what matters is the way we identify as subjects of a state.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:22 pm

 

57. AIG said:

For the one thousandth time let me explain. The Jews are a nation, not only a religion. The word Jew means someone from the tribe of Judah. I am an atheist Jew and there are many like me in Israel and all over the world. Israel is a nation state not a religious state. The analogy for non-Jews in Israel would be Kurds in Syria, not Christians. Stop your propaganda and sorry excuses not to grant freedom and dignity to the population.

I cannot believe that the excuses of the regime supporters are so racist. You are basically saying that Syrians are backward people and not ready for democracy. That is clearly false.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:34 pm

 

58. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

The way Turkey has been treating Syria during this crisis is extremely offensive. I don’t know for how long we are going to take this brazen middling in our internal affairs. If Erdogan wants to help, he can start by returning the Syrian territory that his country occupies since 1939. This is much more useful than his advice on how to solve our internal political problems. We already have the US unwarrantedly interfering in our internal affairs. We don’t need other countries interfering.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:36 pm

 

59. Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

54. AIG,

This is what all sectarianist racists say. The Maronites in Lebanon consider themselves a nation and they link themselves to the ancient Phoenicians. Also the Syriac Christians in Syria consider themselves a nation and they identify with the ancient Arameans and Assyrians. During the French mandate, France tried also to convince the Alawis and Druze that they were separate nations.

This is a very typical racist sectarianist way of thinking. It justifies for you enslaving the other people who live with you. The Maronites massacred the Palestinians during the Lebanese civil war because they viewed them as an invading alien nation. They were looking at the Zionists as their example.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:54 pm

 

60. why-discuss said:

Souri33

To solve this crisis you need an external ‘impartial’ intermediate. While Turkey is ideologicaly more sympathetic to the MB, they have invested a lot in Syria and removed visa. They also worry of the influx of syrians refugees going north.
Turkey is concerned by the trading with Iran also and they know that if they take a stand against Bashar and in favour of a MB lead governemnt, their relation with Iran will break.
Therefore they are trying to find a peaceful solution which would consist at letting Bashar stay in power at the conditions he makes the necessary democratic reforms. If Bahar agrees (and I guess he had in mind these reforms anyway) then Turkey would offer a guarantee to the opposition that it will be done,as most are claiming that Baahar cannot deliver.
If Deraa and Banyas are neutralized quickly enough, I believe Bashar will accept that deal.

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April 27th, 2011, 12:56 pm

 

61. Sophia said:

I don’t understand why people seem to be willing to underestimate the role of the Syrian brotherhood in the protests when they (the same people) were overestimating this role in the Egypt uprising, while the reality is the exact contrary to these estimations.

Again on the Syrian brotherhood:
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/04/mulhim-ad-durubi.html

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April 27th, 2011, 12:58 pm

 

62. why-discuss said:

AIG

You are claiming that being Jew is not only a religion. You are right, it is also an ethnicity, therefore rejecting people of another ethnicity is also racism. (black/white)

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April 27th, 2011, 1:01 pm

 

63. why-discuss said:

SOPHIA

“But politcal columnist Soli Ozel of the Turkish daily Haberturk
points out the islamic roots of the ruling AK party makes it more ideologically in tune with opponents of the Syrian regime like the Muslim brotherhood, than the staunchly secular Syrian leadership.

“Ideologically it has far more in sympathy with the brotherhood which is properly the backbone of the opposition, but it has heavily invested in the Assad regime. And like everyone else, they fear a violent destruction of the regime will create untold calamities for everyone around. The government
is caught between a rock and hard place,” Ozel said.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:04 pm

 

64. sean said:

Why-Discuss:

I was hoping for something a little more substantive than “international pressure” and Israel, but let’s assume that you’re right about everything.

If you are correct that the regime was unable to reform before but that “This new uprising is changing the priority,” then assuming that you’re actually interested in reform, shouldn’t you be thanking the protesters? Because after all, apparently civil society forums and the reasonable demands of people like Michel Kilo or Sadiq Jalal al-Azm haven’t been enough to change the regime’s priorities over the last decade, but these protests have in a month.

And a follow-up: Let’s assume for the sake of argument (even though I don’t believe it) that you’re right and the protesters are violent salafi murderers. What does it say about a regime that only responds to a violent uprising but not to peaceful requests for reform?

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April 27th, 2011, 1:09 pm

 

65. SANDRO LOEWE said:

I am surprised with the kind of syrian patriotic that defens dictatorship, war against imperialism between Iran and Israel in south Lebanon, selective killings of arab thinkers, etc. while for being able to keep this politics outside they need to kill and destroy any kind of interior peacefull and democratic movement.
Keeping dictatorship allows them to steal and abuse population to an unprecedented level.
Do you think that being a patriot is defending your country´s regime whatever it does?

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April 27th, 2011, 1:09 pm

 

66. SuzukiOfTokyo said:

It is ridiculous that oppressive regimes of the Arab Gulf countries preaches democracy to Syria.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:13 pm

 

67. محمود said:

توقفوا عن هدا الهراء ان الحالة السورية هي مواجهة بين الكيان السوري الحالي بمكوناته شعب حضارة قيم اقتصاد اديان الخ و مخطط الظلام الغربي ! و لعل أكثر الامور سخرية أن يقوم مجلس الأمن و السلم الدولي بالمشاركة في تقويض الأمن و السلم بعينه ! عالم هراء يقوده أشرار ويلكم من عواقب أفعالكم ! عاشت سورية بلدي الحبيب عزيزة كريمة

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April 27th, 2011, 1:15 pm

 

68. AIG said:

WHY-DISCUSS,

What are you talking about? Ethnicity in many cases is one of the bases of nationality. So what? Are Italy and Japan racist because the Italian and Japanese nations are based on ethnicity?

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April 27th, 2011, 1:16 pm

 

69. Arnie from NYC said:

The news that Hamas and the PA (under Egyptian auspices) have reconciled has pushed Syria off the front page (for the moment). As I understand it, Abbas had been ready to agree for months but Hamas was holding back, asking for more upfront concessions. Could it be that Hamas has seen the writing on the wall and has basicly accepted that Bashar is on the way out, and therefore they better start to cozy up to Egypt? I throw that out for discussion.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:21 pm

 

70. SANDRO LOEWE said:

عاجل : الشبيحة والأمن يهاجمون اللاذقية

According to http://www.youkal.net regime security services are storming some parts of the city of Latakia at this moment.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:44 pm

 

71. why-discuss said:

Arnie

I thought the same. It does look to me that Hamas is concerned that Bashar al Assad, if he survives, would focus on internal reforms and would distance himself from the resistance as he’d want to lessen the criticisms coming from everywhere about his neglect of the Syrians denands for reforms. Shifting his priorities may leave Hamas and Hezbollah in the cold.
If Bashar does not survive, the country will fall in a chaos that won’t be of any help to the resistance. They made the right move. Egypt may find itself taking over the support of the resistance off the shoulder of Syria, with all the political and economical consequences and responsibilities.

I guess we may see the Hezbollah adopting a milder attitude in Lebanon’s new governmnt for fear of loosing a faithful ally.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:48 pm

 

72. why-discuss said:

AIG

Most countries in the world are mixed ethnicity and they accept emigrants and refugees from different ethnicity. Israel only accept Jews, this is racism.

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April 27th, 2011, 1:53 pm

 

73. vlad-the-syrian said:

to #1 Mohommed

and couldnt there be just simply a syrian baath limited to Syria i mean not pan-arabist ? From independance day till now, nothing good ever ever came from the arab nations. This body is utterly sick, should we stay wirhin ??

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April 27th, 2011, 1:56 pm

 

74. AIG said:

Why-Discuss,

You just do not know what you are talking about. Israel has accepted many non-Jews into Israel over the years including for example refugees from Vietnam. Jews can more easily immigrate to Israel. What is racist about that? Israel is after all the nation state of the Jews.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:04 pm

 

75. AIG said:

Why-Discuss,

Speaking of racist citizenship laws, the Syria one is ultra racist. If your mother is Syrian and your father is not, you are not considered a Syrian citizen. Have you no shame criticizing others?

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April 27th, 2011, 2:09 pm

 

76. NK said:

Have no fear, Daraa will be liberated tonight God willing …

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April 27th, 2011, 2:12 pm

 

77. why-discuss said:

Sean

I agree that the protests have served to shift the priority of the government. It thought for long that standing against Israel, helping 1.5 million iraqis refugees that poured into the country, was enough to make Syrians forget about the economical hardships and the bad management by the government of the country.
These protests are a wake up call. But within the protesters there are many people with a different agenda, who only use the demands to destroy the present system just to create a void, others who want to start from scratch by reinventing Syria. In these protests, surprisingly, I have never seen any sign that the Syrians give an importance to protecting the resistance.
Bashar got the message, he is now ready to renounce to the full support of the resistance and concentrate on reforms, but before that, he has to eliminate the elements who are not ready to negotiate and who wants his fall and chaos by using violence.
Like in any war there are collaterals, legitimate protesters who are killed and excesses in all sides.
There is visibly a shift in the opposition as the meeting in Istambul ( the first and largest of the opposition ever) fell short on requesting Bashar to step down. It many also mean that the opposition is divided. I just hope that the hardliners will not have the upper hand.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:28 pm

 

78. AIG said:

I counted 27 T-72 tanks in that video. That is probably a full battalion.
Why are the tanks being sent to Dar’a and not the Golan? What a bunch of cowards. Assad is only good at killing his own people.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:28 pm

 

79. why-discuss said:

AIG

“The number of Vietnamese people in Israel is estimated as 200. Most of them came to Israel in between 1976-1979, after prime minister Menachem Begin authorized their admission to Israel, granted them political asylum, and it granted them immediate citizenship, as if they were Jews immigrating under the Law of Return”

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090810081748AArqWXM

A Jew is only Jew from his mother. In mixed marriages, if the mother is non jewish, the chidren are not either.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:30 pm

 

80. vlad-the-syrian said:

to AIG

why are you here since you and your governement dont want peace with Syria, at any price even with keeping the Golan ?

This is a fact, you cannot evade that you don’t konow it. Israel is playing the DESERT STRATEGY with its neighbours, especially Syria. You are creating a desert around you. Why for instance 30% of Israelis are religious and that this trend is even spreading in the army ?

The answer is that these people are fake religious. It’s just a cover, a disguise. And they are paied for doing so. This fact has no religious meaning, israelis are not growing more believers or more spiritual. The goal rather is to make islamism grow in the neighbouring countries, because YOU know that islamism brings regression and that islamism therefore weaken these countries. Islamists are boldened by your premeditate strategy. Hence you encouraged Hamas in order to weaken PLO and secular palestinians far more dangerous for you.

A secular country with a 5% annnual growth economy (at least the double for the parallel economy) at your northern border is something just unbearable for you in respect with this strategy. You have to destroy or weaken it by all means. You better have a no mans land around you populated by beduins. That was your attempt with Lebanon. You threw millions of fragmentation bombs in south Lebanon that until cause death and injuries. Making desert.

Come on now Mr AIG ! Stop your shit and get out of here.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:36 pm

 

81. AIG said:

Why-Discuss,

So? If your father is Israeli and your mother isn’t, you still get an Israeli citizenship. Of course if your mother is Israeli and your father isn’t you also get an Israeli citizenship (unlike the racist Syrian law). So how does what you wrote matter at all?

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April 27th, 2011, 2:36 pm

 

82. why-discuss said:

AIG

The law about citizenship is the same in most arab countries. You get the citizenship from the father. There are many organizations of women trying to change that, Syria is not the only one, Lebanon and others. I know that Morocco has changed that law.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:44 pm

 

83. AIG said:

VLAD-THE-SYRIAN,

Stop your stupid conspiracy theories. Israel does not hold the future of its neighbors in its own hands. Only the Syrians matter regarding the future of Syria. Furthermore, what Israel wants is to see real democracies on its borders. Yes, some Israelis are wary of the transition process.

I agree that Islamism will weaken Arab states if the Islamists do not play by democratic rules. But the notion that Israel fosters Islamism in Arab states is crazy.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:49 pm

 

84. NK said:

More people step away from the criminal organization

http://on.fb.me/mMW7hS
http://on.fb.me/jLdCHt
http://on.fb.me/ijJwxu

And LOL @ Addonia TV

http://on.fb.me/j689lI

أكدت هذه القناة العار اليوم بأن أحد معارضيي بشار الأسد وهو السيد أيمن عبد النور قام بزيارة إسرائيل في الأسبوع الماضي وعرضت صورة زعمت بأنها صورة الجواز المزور للسيد أيمن وهو جواز فرنسي بأسم سام راينسي .
ولكن لشدة غبائهم استخدمو في هذه الكذبة أول صورة تظهر في غوغل عند البحث عن كلمة : french passport http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=french+passport&biw=788&bih=323
وهي صورة لجواز شخص كمبودي يحمل الجنسية الفرنسية .
________________
القائمون على قناة عار الدنيا يستغبون شعب سوريا بأكمله ويعتقدون بأنهم الأذكياء الوحيدين في سوريا .

قناة عار الدنيا أنتم ومقدميكم ومحرريكم أغبى من الغباء , لا بل أنتم الغباء بعينه , لقد سبقتم تلفزيون الجماهيرية السورية .
قريبا سيأتي يوم الحساب .
هذا هو مقطع التقرير المنافق

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April 27th, 2011, 2:50 pm

 

85. AIG said:

WHY-DISCUSS,

So? Is the fact that many Arab states have racist laws an excuse for Syria to have a racist law? How is what you wrote even relevant? The fact is that the Syrian citizenship law is racist and the Israeli one isn’t.

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April 27th, 2011, 2:52 pm

 

86. why-discuss said:

AIG

In Israel you have many laws that are much more advanced than the Arab countries, I do not deny that. Most of your founding fathers came from highly socially and politically developed countries. In the arab world, the process of social and political development is at its infancy after centuries of colonialization. You could compare arab countries with some south american countries but not to Europe or North America.

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April 27th, 2011, 3:00 pm

 

87. why-discuss said:

NK

Thanks, I did not know that Ayman Abdel nour, ex baath party adviser to Bashar al Assad visited Israel recently

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April 27th, 2011, 3:05 pm

 

88. Akbar Palace said:

What’s the Big Deal?

Why Discuss,

The Arab man who spoke in the video in Post #28 was reasonable. The protestors around him were peaceful.

All we are saying is why doesn’t Bashar Assad come down from the clouds and do something smart for himself and Syria?

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April 27th, 2011, 3:07 pm

 

89. NK said:

why-discuss

He actually didn’t, it’s just one more lie that Addonia TV ( Makhlouf TV is more like it) tried to spread to smear yet one more Syrian dissenter as a traitor.

Personally I don’t care much for Mr. Abdul Nour and whether he visited Israel or not, I just wanted to prove yet again how much credibility Syrian TV channels have, and how far they’ll go to deceive the public. Just google french passport and the first picture you’ll find is the one they used to fabricate and accuse this guy of visiting Isreal, how stupid is that !!!

Also remember how much we laughed at Gaddafi when he used the “hallucinogenic tablets” excuse, well Addonia TV apparently thinks that lie was not that bad after all …

I say it again, LOL @ Addonia TV

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April 27th, 2011, 3:14 pm

 

90. SimoHurtta said:

You just do not know what you are talking about. Israel has accepted many non-Jews into Israel over the years including for example refugees from Vietnam. Jews can more easily immigrate to Israel. What is racist about that? Israel is after all the nation state of the Jews.

Well AIG if you see Israel as the nation for Jews as a right thing then you do not have anything against that we Christians define all nations where we are the majority as the nation states of Christians and we kick out all non Christians or at least put them as second class citizens using same rules than Israel uses.

By the way AIG in Finland there are a little over 1000 Jewish citizens and today a Jew was elected as the speaker of the parliament. Second highest position in our system. So AIG operate modern democracies. Religion is a personal matter. Do not say it is in Israel. 😀

By the way AIG where are the nation state of Mormons or Scientology followers?

Could you ultra extreme Jewish racists stop wasting bits in this blog’s comment section. What does your childish comical schadenfreude “help” in the current political situation. When Israeli Jews have to leave the West Bank and East Jerusalem in near future, 67 borders you know, I suppose we will see real tragedies when extreme Jewish terrorists blow up Jews and Palestinians in masses and hundreds of Israeli tanks surround Jewish evacuation centres. It can be that after half a year you have to tolerate hundreds of ironical comments of events in the modern third Reich. Evacuating all/most Jewish settlements will create a situation compared to which the recent events in Arab countries are a relative peaceful political “picnic”.

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April 27th, 2011, 3:25 pm

 

91. AIG said:

SIMOHURTTA,

As usual you miss the point that unlike Christians, Jews are a nation, not only a religion. Israel is a nation state, not a religious state.

How is wishing for freedom and dignity for Syrians “schadenfreude”?
Only in your mind is any Israeli happy about the violence the brave Syrians need to endure to get their freedom. You on the other hand would rather see the Syrian people continue suffering under Bashar because he “resists” Israel. Your views are cynical and cruel.

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April 27th, 2011, 3:56 pm

 

92. MK JCNJ said:

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has announced his support for the Syrian government in its struggle against destabilization efforts from outside the country. He is very representative of the thoughts of millions of anti-imperialists in the Americas.

The Venezuelan people – as the result of a failed coup in 2002 – have a post-graduate school education with regards to the political and financial collaboration of corporate media and internet activists with various U.S. government agencies.

We don’t know what the U.S./NATO plan is for Syria. Is it regime change like in Libya and Ivory Coast? Is it breaking up the country into pieces like Sudan? Is it occupation like Iraq? Whatever the plan is – you can be sure that internal unity and Pan-Arabism are not part of it.

The Syrian people can and will work things out among themselves – but only if they are allowed to do so without outside interference from the U.S., NATO and its Middle East allies. Interference from these forces can only lead to an expanded occupation beyond Golan and/or a protracted civil war fueled by an unlimited supply of weapons and ammunition.

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April 27th, 2011, 4:07 pm

 

93. Akbar Palace said:

Little Sim is “Mum” on Syria NewZ

Ben Zyskowicz is the first Jew to be elected to the Finnish parliament? Boy it sure took enough time.

Israel has had several arab/muslim ministers since 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

I suppose we will see real tragedies when extreme Jewish terrorists blow up Jews and Palestinians in masses and hundreds of Israeli tanks surround Jewish evacuation centres.

Sim,

Instead of projecting another imagined Israeli crime, why don’t you chime in about the crimes going on now in Syria and all over the Middle East?

Or is that too difficult for you?

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April 27th, 2011, 4:29 pm

 

94. Samir said:

The former diplomat agrees that Assad Regime has something to hide but he ends his article asking who’s shooting the security personnel? While he/she appeared to consider all possibilities, much has been written about security personnel shooting other soldiers who refuse to shoot unarmed civilians. Why did the former diplomat not mention this? Assad can theoratically reform but what is the probability of that in a regime so set in its ways and a regime that has used so much fear (which has so far worked) to stay in power and will probably continue to use much fear?

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April 27th, 2011, 4:32 pm

 

95. NK said:

Ayman Abdel Nour’s official response to the allegations of Addounia TV about him visiting Israel

http://all4syria.info/web/archives/5692

رد على اكاذيب سليمان معروف وقناته الدنيا وفبركة زيارة ايمن عبد النور لاسرائيل

مراسل المحليات : كلنا شركاء
بعد ان فضحنا تاجر السلاح الذي يدعي ان السيد الرئيس صديقه ويزوره في منزله بحلب سليمان معروف
رابط الخبر http://all4syria.info/web/archives/5178
وبعد تكذيبنا لاختراعات الموقع المملوك من قبله شوكوماكو بخصوص زيارة الاستاذ ايمن عبد النور الى لندن
رابط الخبر http://all4syria.info/web/archives/5306

طلع علينا الفاسد سليمان معروف ومن خلال ملكيته لاسهم كبيرة في قناة الدنيا الفضائية بالتقرير المفبرك اعلاه والمضحك لسخافته .
1-اذا كان الاستاذ ايمن عبد النور قد استخدم جواز سفر فرنسي مزور ولدى الفاسد سليمان معروف صورة عنه وليست فوتوشوب كالتي يتم بثها عبر فضائيته فضائية التزوير الدنيا …… فليرسلها مباشرة للمخابرات الفرنسية او ينشرها بدقة عالية في اي موقع ليتبين رقم الجواز ؟…..لان الاستاذ ايمن كان قد دعي لتقديم محاضرة في اهم كلية للعلوم السياسية في باريس منذ عامين science-poوسيدعى قريبا للمشاركة بندوة هامة لمركز للدراسات الاستراتيجية وبذلك يتم سجنه في فرنسا ويرتاح منه ؟؟ .
2-هل يريدنا ان نصدق ان جواز سفر فرنسي مزور يمر على موظف الهجرة الفرنسية ولا يكتشفه و في قلب باريس ؟.
3-قبل يومين خرج علينا مبيض الاموال سليمان معروف بقصة ان الاستاذ ايمن عبد النور لديه جواز اماراتي واليوم فرنسي وغدا ……هل يعقل ان يصدق انسان هذه التخاريف , ولماذا يحتاج اموال اسرائيلية اذا كانت اموال بندر بن سلطان تحت تصرفه كما ذكرتم في مقال سابق عن الاجتماع بلندن ؟.
4-المضحك بالخبر ان الاعلام الاسرائيلي يسرب فقط لوسيلة اعلامية سورية ….فكيف هي صلة التسريب ومن هي هذه الوسيلة اصلا ؟….ولماذا لم تنقلها وسائل الاعلام العالمية كلها ؟.
5-المسخرة ان قناة دنيا وضعت صورة لجواز سفر فرنسي قالت انه للاستاذ ايمن واستخدمت فيه صورته الموجودة على الفيس بوك ؟…المضحك ان الصورة التقطت عام 1994 بمناسبة وضعها ضمن قائمة الجبهة الوطنية لانتخابات مجلس محافظة دمشق فهل يعقل ان يستخدم انسان صورة عمرها 17 عام لجواز سفر جديد وهي نفسها التي على الفيس بوك ؟.
6-لماذا لم يرد تاجر السلاح سليمان معروف حتى الان ويكذب خبر شراؤه للقناصات التي تقتل المتظاهرين ؟.
7-انظر شخصيا للموضوع على انه في سياق التخبط الاعلامي السوري … ونشر انباء غير دقيقة.. وتكذيبها في اليوم التالي: مثل خبر نفق بين جامع والفرن بالمعضمية.. أو خبر اعتقال عقاب صقر ووووو…ويمكن هنا مشاهدة رد على هذه الافتراءات عبر قناة الحوار .
8-اخيرا هل يستطيع التافه معد التقرير ان يذكر ما الصلة بين صورة هذا البسبور والصورة التي عرضوها في فضائية الدنيا المزورة ؟؟؟؟.
http://www.samrainsy.info/?p=204

ايمن عبد النور
ساركز فقط على نقطتين
1-لم اغادر دبي منذ اكثر من شهرين وصوري موجودة على عشرات الكاميرات بشكل يومي سواء في بناية المكتب او مدينة الاعلام بدبي حيث كنت اجري بشكل يومي مقابلات مع الفضائيات ..اضافة لانه كل يوم كنت التقي كثيرا من الاشخاص وفي الفترة منذ يوم الخميس الماضي في 21 الشهر كنت بشكل يومي يعني ( خميس الغسول – الجمعة العظيمة – سبت النور – احد القيامة ) مع عدد كبير من الاشخاص نحضر لعيد الفصح يوم الاحد في كنيسة السريان بالشارقة فكيف يقول الخبر اني سافرت وعدت البارحة الاثنين ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟.
اتحدى قناة الدنيا ان تحدد اي يوم ولو مدى اسبوع او اسبوعين لنبرز ادلة تواجدي بدبي التي تكذب كل ادعاءاتهم المريضة .
2-سيتم مقاضاة وملاحقة صاحب القناة ومدير التحرير فيها امام القضاء السوري واتذكر هنا الحادثة اللي نشرت فيها صحيفة الوطن اسماء كتاب سوريين ادعت بعمالتهم لاسرائيل وكيف خسرت الدعوى لعدم المهنية .
وقد تم تكليف محام لمتابعة القضية اذا لم تعتذر قناة الدنيا واستمرت بغيها وكذبها .

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April 27th, 2011, 4:50 pm

 

96. Riad said:

NK,

Thank you really so for that news on Addounia TV. I’ve had my heartiest laugh in a week.

ميداني .. كفك محنى!
نقلاً عن وسائل الإعلام السورية الرسمية وشبه الرسمية, الفضائية والأرضية, المرئية والمسموعة .. ونقلاً عن أبناء عمومتي, وإخواني, وأصدقائي, وأحبابي, وأبناء حيي, حي الميدان العريق الحبيب .. تظاهرات حاشدة تنطلق من جامع ال…حسن .. فقد خرج المصلون أمس الجمعة بعد الصلاة, يحمدون الله على نعمة هطول الأمطار .. بدؤوا هتافاتهم بعد الصلاة مباشرة, وانطلقوا من حرم المسجد إلى الشارع بصوت واحد .. الله الله يا جبار.. نزل علينا الأمطار! واحد واحد واحد .. المطر والثلج واحد! يا الله ويا قهار .. الشعب السوري بدو أمطار! يا الله ويا عظيم .. حقق مطالبنا يا كريم! مطر, مطر .. بكل الساحات .. تقضي على هالوسخات! مطر, مطر .. شي غزير .. يقضي على كل الصراصير! مطر , مطر .. بالميدان .. يقضي على كل الخوّان! مطر وثلج .. جمعية .. ياخذ كل الحرامية! الشعب .. يريد .. إسقاط الأمطار! ولكن الهتاف الأخير .. فيما يظهر قد أغضب الرب, فارتعدت السماء, وأطّت .. وحُق لها أن تئط, ثم زمجرت وأرعدت, فأرسلت على المتظاهرين كتائب من أمن الملائكة! بأجنحتهم وجبروتهم .. نفخوا فيهم نفخات, فخرج من أفواههم الغاز السام, وألقوا على رؤوس المحتجين حجارة من سجيل, ضاربين منهم بهراوات الجحيم! واليوم شيع الميدان أول شهدائه من جامع الدقاق .. شهيد الأمطار .. شهيد الثلوج .. شهيد العواصف .. الحمد لله أن تمت تغطية التظاهرة على الإخبارية السورية, حتى لا يدعي أولئك المغرضون, أولئك المتآمرون, أولئك القابضون, ويحولوا التظاهرة عن حقيقتها كما عادتهم .. ليدعوا أن هذه التظاهرة هي تظاهرة عواصف رملية .. لقد حفظنا كذبكم, ولن يمر علينا هذه المرة, ولن تستغبونا أيها الكاذبون! تظاهرة أمطار!! حقاً وصدقاً .. مهما شوهها المشوهون! ها أنا قد بلغت .. اللهم فاشهد .. اللهم ارحم شهيد الأمطار .. وتقبله! اللهم ألهم أهله وخلانه الصبر والسلوان! اللهم وسائر شهداء الوطن ياعظيم!

And there are people here who sedately quote Addounia, SANA, Syria-news.com and other propaganda outlet. LOL 🙂

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April 27th, 2011, 5:12 pm

 

97. vlad-the-syrian said:

to AIG #83

you say “if the Islamists do not play by democratic rules”

COME ON ! YOU know very well they won’t . You’re always lying in the same manner you’re lying for the palestinian solution. you’re playing this game now on this stage because you are sure there would be never be a palestinian solution. A solution for a lie ?

Do you really care about democracy in Syria ? Your only care is to weaken Syria. In your way of thinking, a safe secular dynamic and prosperous neighbour (Syria in the last 2 years) is of no interest for you. You’ve proven it in Lebanon by your disproporntionate reaction to “un fait d’armes” (because it was not an act of terrorism) destryoing half the country and leaving your deadly shit. You’re not intesrested in peace with real partners. Your only peace is with the DESERT. And you are acting so that the DESERT grows around you.

Besides Mr AIG, since you contribute to SC, everybody here has noticed your ARROGANCE and i guess many have requested your removal. Sorry to tell you, i may be wrong but I have the feeling that most syrians wouldnt want you for a guest. You have something very deep in common with the MB and wahhabi islamists, i say this because i’m sure that i can bee understood by some if not many of the respectable readers of SC : i mean the DESERT way of thinking, that same nihilism.

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April 27th, 2011, 6:12 pm

 

98. Alescander said:

Please remember that who is behind the “revolution ” on line is Fidaa al Sayed , the MB chapter chief in Sweden , who was on video clip earlier here lashing out after his Facebook page was brought down last Saturday .

Please remember that most , if not all of the minorities do not trust these angry people on the streets, they have no qualms in believing that the blood of the alawite, Druze , Ismaili , Assyrians , Shia , will be running down the rivers is Assad falls. To believe this just look around

As posted before , but no comments from ” syriacomment ” why the day after Bashar confirmed the repeal of the emergency law he’ll broke loose, I have only one explanation , the opposition smelled fear , and wanted to invest , they they pushed the gas pedal to the max

Unfortunately , of fortunately may be , the backbone of the demonstrations was young , uneducated, unemployed … it is quite hard to communicate with the mass public of this level.

If opposition took up arms I believe it will be much easier to crush them, with more civilian loss of live ,

Joshua you must have some new feedback , but please try to be the way you were before , balanced and objective, it looks like you are panicking.
Syria is destined to have these crises , hundreds of years ago till now, it looked at the bones of invader armies which tried to conquer her

Bashar will pull out of this crises , he will apply all of the reforms he promised , only not in te rabid rate the opposition is requesting , which they know is impossible.

Bashar is fully aware of the resentment of syrians of alawites monopoly of power , he was trying to phase out the main power centers under alawaites to sunnies.
This is a very platonic way, but the only other way means another alawites and other minorities cleansing.

I could here the heavy breathing of panicking friends who are christians, Armenians etc. they don’t want Assad to fall.

Another sad fact is the miserable performance of the official Syrian media, while they had the means to be more effective they shot their feet, one example is airing the interview with the Egyptian engineer earlier. That’s what you get when you assign morans who you want them to be loyal tothe regime

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April 28th, 2011, 1:09 am

 

99. SANDRO LOEWE said:

On 9th Dec 2006 I wrote this below. I think I can still defend the same perspective. Only thing that changes is that maybe we are not at the maturity point yet. Maybe tomorrow we will see.

SANDRO LOEWE said:

What Gadry says makes as much sense as what Assad offers. It is exactly the other side of the same coin. Assad says “the only solution is my regime, otherwise I guarantee (in an active way) disorder, unrest and chaos”. Gadry says “OK, since there is no alternative let’s accept the bet, let’s play chaos and disorder because I do not accept the regime”. It seems to me that this is a suicidal position and very much simple.

Well we all know that, for the moment at least, Israel is not going to allow Gadry to be satisfied, since they prefer a poor and weakened Syria under Assads than chaos.

Gadry election is from my point of view stupid since opposition will be crashed by the regime anyway. For US and allies it is better to keep a potential opposition without being used but also without being destroyed.

It is written, Syria must be weak and stable, for the good of the Jewish state. When the weakness gets the maturity point then changes will come accerelated, but until then Syria is designated to remain poorer and weaker as a regime.
.December 9th, 2006, 8:08 pm

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April 28th, 2011, 3:17 pm

 

100. SANDRO LOEWE said:

If we have got to the maturity point then it is time for history to be rewriten by the people. If we are not yet at this point then people and opposition movements will be crashed and forgotten for a long time if they are not forced to disappear under earth and forgotten for ever more until a new generation dares to challenge the status quo after 20 years more.

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April 28th, 2011, 3:24 pm

 

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