News Round Up (October 11, 2012)

Arms supplies to Syrian rebels drying up: No sign of heavy weapons to fight tanks and aircraft Regional rivalries hamper struggle against Assad
Martin Chulov and Ian Black – Guardian, 11 October 2012

In the battle for northern Syria the most important front is far from Aleppo. It is across the border in the southern Turkish town of Antakya. Here rebels, who now move around with increasing ease, are engaged in daily bids for patronage with those who keep the insurgency running….

The men with the money and influence in Antakya are envoys sent by the Sunni world’s political elite or business leaders. One name comes up more than any other – a Lebanese MP named Okab Sakr.

“Every time Okab is in town the weapons start to move across the border,” said a rebel colonel from the Jebel al-Zawiya region, who calls himself Abu Wael. “The problem is he is very particular about where those weapons go.”…Sakr is a member of the Future movement of the Lebanese opposition leader, Saad Hariri. According to colleagues in Beirut he has been given the role of gun runner-in-chief…..The US, always jittery about backing the uprising, is opposed to calls by Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply rebel groups with equipment needed to combat aircraft and tanks – an issue raised by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Monday. Jordan and Turkey appear to share Washington’s concerns. Confirmation on Wednesday that the US had sent a military mission to Jordan to help build a headquarters on the border with Syria and to improve Jordan’s military capabilities underlines worries about possible spillover.

“It’s about indirect intervention,” said Mustafa Alani of the Saudi-financed Gulf Research Centre in Abu Dhabi. “The money is there, arms can be supplied. But the Jordanians and the Turks are hesitant. Turkey is allowing some weapons in but there are a lot of restrictions. People are waiting for a shift after the US election.”

Another growing problem is a lack of co-ordination between Qatar and the Saudis – the likely subject of Wednesday’s talks in Doha between the Emir and the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar. King Abdullah is said to be growing impatient with the difficulties of the Syrian crisis. According to Syrian opposition activists, the Saudis now sponsor only rebel groups which are at odds with those backed by Qatar and Turkey, which are often linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.

“The Qataris are much more proactive than the Saudis,” said one well-placed Arab source. “The Saudis are not interested in democracy, they just want to be rid of Bashar. They would be happy with a Yemeni solution that gets rid of the president and leaves the regime intact.”

Intelligence chiefs from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and France reportedly met in Turkey in early September along with the CIA director general, David Petraeus. But they apparently failed to reach agreement on a co-ordinated strategy….The Americans are especially against handing out anti-aircraft missiles. They will not accept these things falling into the hands of jihadis. Imagine having to do a Stinger buy-back programme like Afghanistan all over again.”

Now the Saudis are signalling that they are reaching the limits of what they will do in the face of US objections, concern about the resilience of the Assad regime, fears that extremists will dominate the opposition – as well as the risks of “blowback” from jihadis returning home…..Now the Saudis are pushing the armed Syrian opposition to form a “salvation front” with unified command and control on the ground and, crucially, an ability to collect weapons once fighting has ended – a lesson learned the hard way from Libya. The Saudis are backing brigadier-general Manaf Tlass,…

But there is little optimism about prospects for any immediate improvement. “It’s all a bit of a mess,” said analyst Shadi Hamid of the Brookings Institution in Doha. “Everyone is waiting for someone else to do a better job. It can’t be the Saudis or the Qataris or the Turks. It’s got to be the Americans…..

News Round Up by Foreign Policy

The U.S. military has sent a task force of over 150 planners and other specialists to Jordan to assist in dealing with the Syrian crisis. The planners’ tasks will primarily involve handling refugee flows, already estimated at 180,000; securing the border to prevent spillover from Syria; and preparing for scenarios including the loss of government control of chemical weapons. The U.S. government has avoided intervening in Syria other than providing nonlethal assistance, including communications equipment. However, the deployment to the outpost near Amman, less than 35 miles from the Syrian border, could play a critical role if U.S. policy were to shift. U.S. Pentagon and Central Command officials have declined to comment on the mission, in addition to a spokesman from the Jordanian embassy in Washington. Meanwhile, Turkey has warned Syria that it will respond with greater force if cross border shelling continues. The statement came about a week after Turkey retaliated after fire from Syrian forces hit the Turkish town of Akcakale, killing five civilians. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the military alliance has plans to defend Turkey if requested. In Syria, opposition forces reportedly took control over Maaret al-Numan in Idlib province, a strategic town on the main highway connecting Damascus with Aleppo. If the Syrian army does lose Maaret al-Numan, it will hinder its ability to send reinforcements to aid in the longstanding battle in Aleppo. The jihadist militant group, al-Nasra Front, has claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing targeting the Air force Intelligence complex in the Damascus suburb of Harasta. The facility is notorious for its detention and torture of opposition members. Fierce fighting also continued in the city of Homs.

Russia has negotiated a $4.2 billion arms sale to Iraq becoming the country’s second biggest arms supplier after the United States.

Syrian massacre is veiled in silence‘ (Michael Peel, The Financial Times)
“Daraya’s continuing anguish says much about the evolution – or regression – of Syria’s 18-month-old conflict and the world’s attitudes to it. More than a month after what local people say was the massacre of at least 500 people, the town is in a ghastly limbo, still surrounded by regime forces and aware that another blow could fall at any time with hardly anyone watching. When 108 people were slaughtered in the central Syrian district of Houla in May, it was widely talked of as a possible turning point in international attitudes to what has now become a war; when several times that number were reported dead in Daraya over several days in late August, it triggered a brief round of condemnation – and then near-silence. As a diplomat who covers Syria put it: “It’s like the Syrian conflict has become something with which the international community can live.””

In shifting Syria conflict, Assad assumes command of forces – Reuters

….Recent visitors say the 47-year-old president has taken over day-to-day leadership. They speak of a self-confident, combative president convinced he will ultimately win the conflict through military means.

“He is no longer a president who depends on his team and directs through his aides. This is a fundamental change in Assad’s thinking,” said a pro-Syrian Lebanese politician with close ties to Assad. “Now he is involved in directing the battle.”

The endgame may have changed too. “Nobody is now talking about the control of the regime over all of Syria, they talk about the ability of the regime to continue.”

Until recently, the Lebanese politician said, people asked daily who would defect next. But for some time now there had been no significant military defections.

“The fighting nerve is steady. The Iranians and the Russians may have helped them. Their ability to manage daily and control the situation has improved.”

The government has decided to focus its effort on essential areas – the capital Damascus, the second largest city of Aleppo, and the main highways and roads.

Other close observers of the conflict say Assad is deluded if he believes he can prevail.

“The problem is the regime lives in its own world. It is clear the people are rejecting this idea – the regime’s narrative – that it is a secular regime set upon by extremists, a battle between good and evil and Bashar will one day be vindicated. Bashar is not the victim. He is the cause of the violence,” said a Western diplomat.

In the Land of the Free Syrian Army – fascinating article. Must read
October 4, 2012 Ilhan Tanir

Ilhan Tanir writes firsthand on the efforts of Syrian towns to self-govern after driving out regime forces….

Tensions Escalate as Turkey Forces Down Syrian Passenger Jet
By ANNE BARNARD and SEBNEM ARSU, NYTimes

Turkey sharply escalated its confrontation with Syria on Wednesday, forcing a Syrian passenger plane to land in Ankara on suspicion of carrying military cargo, ordering Turkish civilian airplanes to avoid Syria’s airspace and warning of increasingly forceful responses if Syrian artillery gunners keep lobbing shells across the border. ….

Syria’s main opposition bloc to restructure, seek new impetus
by Irish, Oct 10, 2012, Reuters

Syria’s main opposition bloc will restructure itself in Qatar next week to seek fresh impetus, Syrian National Council leader Abdulbaset Sieda said on Wednesday, after months of criticism that it is too fractious and influenced by Islamists….Sieda, who is due to resign from his position next week, said the first step would be a general assembly of the Syrian National Council in Doha from October 15-17 to elect a new leadership and increase the numbers of women and young members.

It will also incorporate some 20 new groups into the organization, including local coordination committees, business groups and smaller Kurdish, Turkmen and Syriac Christian representatives.

Sieda, who described himself as secular, reiterated that the SNC favors a secular, democratic Syria that respects minority rights and where power is to given local authorities, away from the centre in Damascus.

Guardian (GB): Prince Bandar bin Sultan – profile
2012-10-10

Prince Bandar bin Sultan has been coordinating Saudi Arabia’s policies towards the Syrian uprising since being appointed intelligence chief by King Abdullah in July. Bandar’s reputation as an inveterate networker and hawk have fuelled anticipation …

Bandar took over the Syria “file” from the king’s son Abdelaziz, a deputy foreign minister. The move also followed rumours of inefficiency at the intelligence agency. Bandar organized the visit of Manaf Tlass, the Sunni general and Assad associate who defected from Syria in July. Shortly after his appointment it was rumoured – evidently falsely – that he had been killed in an explosion in Riyadh. Iranian and pro-Assad media suggested it was retaliation for the assassination of four of Assad’s senior security chiefs in a bomb attack in Damascus a few days earlier.

Veteran Saudi-watchers say that decision-making in Riyadh, where government is highly personalised and the senior royals ageing, is currently in poor shape. The king is 88 and frail, Crown Prince Salman, 76, abroad and the foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, 72, convalescing.

In a rare public glimpse of his movements, Bandar was reported to be in the Qatari capital Doha on Wednesday, holding talks with the Emir, Sheikh Hamad. It would be surprising if the Syrian crisis was not on their agenda. “We need to wait and see what Bandar will do with the Syria file,” said one Saudi source. “People will be watching carefully.

As Assad hangs on, Turkey confronts failure on Syria
by Andrew Parasiliti in al-Monitor

Turkish President Abdullah Gul said this week that Syria is becoming the “worst-case scenario that we’ve all been dreading.”

The shelling across the Turkish-Syrian border, now entering its seventh day, gives further testimony, as if any were needed, that Turkey’s Syria policies have failed and that the civil war in Syria is also a regional, sectarian war, with no end in sight…..

Yes, I was right on Syria. (And what now?)
by Helena Cobban, September 27, 2012, Just World News

from March 2011 until today. And that, at a time when a large majority of people in the U.S. (and ‘western’) political class had a very different analytical bottom line than my own. Their bottom line was, basically, that the Asad regime was weak, hollow, deeply unpopular, and would crumble “any day now.” And since people holding to this belief– which was nearly always, much more of a belief than an analysis– have been extremely strong inside the Obama administration as well as in the western chattering classes (including among many self-professed “progressives” or liberals), their belief in the imminent collapse of the Asad regime has driven Washington’s policy all along…..

[David Ignatius] Face to face with a revolution

If the U.S. wants the rebels to coordinate better on the ground, it should lead the way by coordinating outside help. The shower of cash and weapons coming from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and other Arab nations is helping extremist fighters and undercutting any orderly chain of command through the Free Syrian Army.

Guardian (GB):  Samar Yazbek shares PEN/Pinter prize
2012-10-09

An exiled Syrian author and journalist whose inside account of the revolution drew such ire from Syria’s government that she was forced to flee the country has won a literary award from PEN for her courage. Samar Yazbek was named by poet laureate …

A Guide to the Syria Conflict, A Posdcast by Michael Binyon, who’s ex-Foreign Office and represents a very interesting British establishment viewpoint. (Thanks Sally)

A Third Option in Syria
By Robert A. Pastor | Los Angeles Times

In a Liberated Syrian City, Citizen Government Takes Shape
By: Balint Szlanko | Briefing WPR

With a 48-member council, a city manager and a criminal court, civic government is reasserting itself in Al Bab, a northern Syrian city of about 180,000 people, after rebel fighters pushed government forces out at the end of July. Al Bab is far from peaceful: Government jets bombard it almost every day, and up to two-thirds of the population has fled. But a measure of normalcy has been re-established…..

The U.S. Must Limit Saudi Influence in Syria
By: Frank J. Mirkow | Briefing WPR

As the civil war in Syria becomes more acute, the United States must reassess its strategy toward that key Middle Eastern state, in particular, its stance on the role that Saudi Arabia has been playing in the Syrian conflict. Continued Saudi influence in Syria will only further destabilize the situation on the ground, undermine U.S. interests in the region and dim the prospects for a future democratic Syria…..

Washington Post’s David Ignatius: A revolt’s extremist threat
2012-10-08

ALEPPO, Syria Leading the fight in Sakhour on the eastern side of this embattled city is the Tawafuk Battalion of the Free Syrian Army. It reports to a new coordinating body known as the Military Council, according to Mustafa Shabaan, the acting …

Syria’s Up-and-Coming Rebels: Who Are the Farouq Brigades?
Amid the hodgepodge of groups that make up the armed opposition to Bashar Assad, one organization is coming dramatically to the fore
By Rania Abouzeid / Raqqa province | October 5, 2012 | TIME

CNN: Syrian defector: I worked for ‘butcher’
2012-10-09

Comments (342)


ann said:

President Obama – Why is the US supporting Al Qaeda in Syria?

Good news report from Fox19 channel about Syria and American support for the Jihadists in Syria.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86a_1348427615

October 11th, 2012, 12:34 am

 

ann said:

FRIENDS OF SYRIA!

October 11th, 2012, 12:37 am

 
 

Visitor said:

From previous post,

“Recent visitors say the 47-year-old president has taken over day-to-day leadership…..” [Reuters]

OK, Maher is dead.

Good riddance.

—————————–

From this post,

I am very optimistic that Prince Bandar is now back on track handling the Syrian file. We can now see some real progress and some good results on the ground.

October 11th, 2012, 12:43 am

 

ann said:

FSA/al-Qaeda Terrorists Target Aleppo Christians via Mortar Rounds

This footage from Oct 9, 2012 shows al-Qaeda terrorists that are fighting with the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) militants using mortar rounds to target the “infidel” Christian quarter of al-Jdeideh in Aleppo.

The song that plays in the background is very revealing of these terrorists’ intentions. Its lyrics start with the following refrain:
“Strike with your awaited blow! Strike! Strike!
And kill whoever you want from infidels! Strike! Strike!”

The Obama administration is very proud of these sectarian murderers trying to cause religious conflict and exodus of minorities.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30f_1349887680

October 11th, 2012, 12:45 am

 

ann said:

Battle For Syria: View from the Frontline (English subtitles)

Who is the Syrian army fighting ?

What is the armed opposition fighting for ?

and why are there so many interested parties in this conflict ?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3bf_1349878259

October 11th, 2012, 12:50 am

 

ann said:

FSA Terrorists Massacre Civilians in a Bus in Al Ramosi in the name of Jihad

Warning: Graphic Content (Not for Shock, aimed at documenting crimes against humanity by the FSA terrorists)

Radical Islamists known as the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) are proudly killing traveling civilians from all sects on buses, including a young girl. This is the freedom that Obama and Clinton support.

These terrorists claim that some of the men are colonels in the army without any proof. They killed them before they even knew who they were.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f06_1349863694

October 11th, 2012, 1:06 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

REPOST
rt, SPANN, ZOO, and their top aviation experts

Article 1
Sovereignty
The contracting States recognize that every State has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace above its territory.

Article 4

Misuse of civil aviation
Each contracting State agrees not to use civil aviation for any purpose inconsistent with the aims of this Convention.

Article 16
Search of aircraft
The appropriate authorities of each of the contracting States shall have the right, without unreasonable delay, to search aircraft of the othercontracting States on landing or departure, and to inspect the certificates and
other documents prescribed by this Convention.

Article 35
Cargo restrictions
(a) No munitions of war or implements of war may be carried in or above the territory of a State in aircraft engaged in international navigation, except by permission of such State. Each State shall determine by regulations what constitutes munitions of war or implements of war for the purposes of this Article , giving due consideration, for the purposes of uniformity, to such recommendations as the International Civil Aviation Organization may from time to time make.
(b) Each contracting State reserves the right, for reasons of public order and safety, to regulate or prohibit the carriage in or above its territory of articles other than those enumerated in paragraph (a): provided that no distinction is made in this respect between its national aircraft engaged in international navigation and the aircraft of the other States so engaged; and provided further that no restriction shall be imposed which may interfere with the carriage and use on aircraft of apparatus necessary for the operation or navigation of the aircraft or the safety of the personnel or passengers.

Source: Convention on International Civil Aviation, AKA Chicago Convention, 1944

There are additional conventions. Turkey’s action must also be considered in light of the Montreal Convention (prohibiting use of force against civilian aircraft, but also under the Beijing Convention (prohibiting the carrying of explosives on civilian air crafts.

Similarly, some weak points in the Chicago convention is that state are provided with instruments to require the landing and search of unscheduled flights, but not explicitly of crafts suspected of violations on munitions clause. However, the munition clause listed above, provides for Turkey to use appropriate means.

Once an aircraft lands, in a designated costume airport, a state has full right to search the craft.

October 11th, 2012, 1:09 am

 

ann said:

People of Aleppo Speak the Truth about FSA Terrorism in their City

No neighborhood in Aleppo has been immune from the terrorism practiced by the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) murderous thugs. Even residential and school districts such as Al Suleimaniyah are now under attack by mortar shells from FSA terrorists.

The warm people of Aleppo give their testimony about the FSA and their deeds in their neighborhood. The truth can mostly be trusted if it comes directly from the people themselves, from those who are eyewitnesses.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6fc_1349861649

October 11th, 2012, 1:10 am

 

ann said:

FSA Terrorists Film their Own Bombing of Turkish Silos and Blame it on Assad

This footage taken by the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) terrorists themselves shows silos inside Turkey being bombed. Their camera happens to be magically centered around the bombing location BEFORE it is detonated. Then they cheerfully shout “Takbeer! Allahu Akbar!”

Something smells very fishy!

Another false flag attack? This sham has been happening almost on a daily basis now, and Turkey immediately accuses the Syrian Army of doing it, while their FSA terrorist buddies are left immune from any blame

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=abc_1349821330

October 11th, 2012, 1:16 am

 

ann said:

Khaldiyeh Neighborhood Clensed Today by SAA, Homs Governate to Return to Stability and Freedom Very Soon.

On 5 October, Homs experienced its worst bombardment in months when
warplanes, tanks and artillery fired missiles and mortars at rebel
controlled neighborhoods, including Old Homs, Khaldiya, Qusour and
Jouret el-Shayah.

On 8 October, government forces advanced into the rebel-held
Khalidiya district amid heavy fighting and what was described as the most vicious attack by the Army yet. The advance was confirmed by the rebels who stated they were forced to retreat due to the artillery fire destroying several buildings that were being used by the opposition fighters as a barrier between them and the military.

A military source said that the Army launched a broad offensive to
take control of all remaining Homs quarters and the neighbouring city of Al Qusayr as well. The source expected the operation to take one week to be completed.

A Homs resident living in a rebel-held neighbourhood said that the
shelling was very heavy. He added that the Syrian army was currently controlling 75% of the city and that the rest could fall at any moment because of the strength of the Army attack.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=097_1349820773

October 11th, 2012, 1:19 am

 
 

Syrialover said:

Alert!

Don’t open any links posted by “ANN”.

You’ll be entering virus city.

October 11th, 2012, 2:02 am

 

Syrialover said:

“ANN” said:

“President Obama – Why is the US supporting Al Qaeda in Syria?”

That’s YOUR President. YOUR country. Your election. Your own backyard to run around peeing in.

Why don’t you yap your bizarre hallucinations at your fellow Americans?

Hiding out on this site to avoid more warnings from the local county law enforcement and mental health agencies?

October 11th, 2012, 2:20 am

 

Syrialover said:

The same “ANN”-linked virus agent that’s at this moment busy tampering with the votes on this forum.

Out of control. Very obvious. Very dumb.

October 11th, 2012, 2:28 am

 

Juergen said:

For those in love with the Saudi accent… great cartoon series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g76rpDqqvtM&feature=related

October 11th, 2012, 2:41 am

 

ann said:

Here’s one for my lonely little punk:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73e_1349804087

Plenty of alahu akbar

Cheer UP PUNK!

October 11th, 2012, 2:44 am

 

annie said:

Logorrheic Ann : 11 out of 17 posts

October 11th, 2012, 2:49 am

 

Citizen said:

338. CHRIS
I welcome you

October 11th, 2012, 2:51 am

 

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THE DEVIL ALDAJJAL ROSE UP.

October 11th, 2012, 2:58 am

 

Citizen said:

Paperwork routine: Turks force Syrian crew to sign ’emergency landing, no F-16s’ statement – witnesses
http://rt.com/news/plane-passenger-reaction-140/

October 11th, 2012, 6:06 am

 

Citizen said:

………..
Why is the United States using Turkey to hurt Syria and expand the war? Well, it isn’t the “United States” as it is officially known that is provoking the war between Turkey and Syria, but, rather, it is the secret globalist rulers who direct U.S. foreign and domestic policy. They do not take into consideration America’s national interests when devising policy because they are secret enemies of the United States and national independence. Their plan for Syria and America is the same: destruction.

Syria’s national infrastructure is being destroyed through war, and America’s national infrastructure is being destroyed mainly through economic means. Author G. Edward Griffin says that the oligarchical owners of the private Federal Reserve, whose unlimited money machine makes possible Washington’s grand foreign policy, do not care about the interests and well-being of the American people. They are only interested in looting and destroying countries and leaving them in ruins with no hope to rebuild.

The best way to destroy a nation is brainwashing its people and making its military fight unwinnable wars, which America is presently doing in Afghanistan and across the Middle East.

Two things must always be kept in mind when U.S. foreign policy is brought up for discussion: 1) creating and fighting enemies is the driving idea behind Washington’s post-9/11 adventurism, and 2) Washington and Al-Qaeda are enemies in name only.
…….
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.fr/2012/10/911-hardliners-and-false-flag.html

October 11th, 2012, 6:16 am

 

Citizen said:

it is looking such as
1. The pre-positioning of US forces in Jordan.
2. The timing of these exercises, relative to the US elections next month. These exercises start just 20 days before the US elections.
3. The increasing tensions between Turkey and Syria.
4. The potential collapse of the Euro, which would bring the US monetary system to a standstill, due to banking corporations not having the collateral to cover debt default swaps.
5. NATO’S having expressed its readiness to attack Syria (yesterday, in fact).

IF it appears that the US economy is going to tank, look for the US government to have the US military embroiled in a war, or series of wars, faster than the speed of light to try to prevent it.

Massive US-Israel air drill set for this month
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=287188

October 11th, 2012, 6:38 am

 

Citizen said:

Hot new from US: not for itmself in the first place, but for Israel!
The US Army Finally Put a GIANT LASER CANNON on a Truck
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/the-us-army-finally-put-a-giant-laser-cannon-on-a-truck/

October 11th, 2012, 7:16 am

 

Syrialover said:

CITIZEN,

It’s good you’re on hand to warn the world.

But is SyriaComment a big enough forum for your message?

That Great Satan America needs to be exposed on at least 2.5 million other English language blogs and the message urgently translated for blogs in 374 other languages. Just to scratch the surface.

“ANN” can help you with important messages to fellow Americans.

If it means you have to put Syria’s problems on the back burner, we’ll understand.

October 11th, 2012, 7:39 am

 

Tara said:

“Air piracy”? So be it!  Let’s see what the embattled isolated Batta can do about it.  Whine here and there?  No one really cares.  He was delegitimized long ago.  He can only bark on the international arena but can expect no consequences.  

Syria accuses Turkey of ‘air piracy’
The Turkish daily Hurriyet says no weapons were found on the grounded Syrian plane, but an inspection found that communication equipment used for military purposes was discovered.

Russia insists no military equipment was on board. RIA Novosti said 17 Russians were among the 30 passenger on the board the diverted Moscow to Damascus flight.

Meanwhile, Syria’s transport minister has accused Turkey of “air piracy” over the incident, Lebanon’s al-Manar Television reported.

The channel quoted minister Mahoumd Said as saying that grounding the flight represented “air piracy which contradicts civil aviation treaties”, Reuters reports.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/oct/11/syria-plane-turkey-arms-live#block-5076827558f91d7bbadac2ec

October 11th, 2012, 7:48 am

 

Syrialover said:

REMINDER ALERT,

Don’t open any links posted by “ANN” the virus merchant.

The voting system on this thread of the forum has also been hacked by “ANN” (or a member of that team).

The SC site administrator needs to take action before it gets worse.

October 11th, 2012, 7:54 am

 

Uzair8 said:

What’s going on here?

AJE Syria blog:

Syria 22 minutes ago
Reuters is reporting that residents of Azmarin, a Turkish town on the border with Syria, are evacuating their homes amid a “military assault” by Syrian forces. More details to follow.

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/border-shelling-continues

October 11th, 2012, 8:20 am

 

Observer said:

Clearly the statement by Freddo is another proof that he is ” a lion against his people and a mouse when it comes to Israel or in this instance Turkey”.

Putin cancels his trip to Ankara.

Russia is blasted according to RT of siding with the Butcher of Damascus or so the post says today.

Lavrov is talking about Geneva accords as if anyone is listening.

He is even talking of hosting Israeli Palestinian talks.

In the meantime, the cranes that Putin tried to help migrate have decided to stay on the ground ( he flew in a glider to guide them off ).

THis is what I call Crane Diplomacy

Cheers

October 11th, 2012, 8:30 am

 

Alakid said:

This is for Assad lovers and a gift for the Syrian people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTvmnj9I8t4&feature=youtu.be

حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل

October 11th, 2012, 8:41 am

 

Ghufran said:

أعلنت “يوناتيد برس انترناشونال” أن مسلحين اثنين على دراجة نارية اعترضا سيارة مدير التحقيقات في السفارة الأميركية والمنسق مع الحكومة اليمنية قاسم عقلان في شارع الستين في صنعاء وأمطروه بوابل من الرصاص ما أدى الى مقتله على الفور.
Only idiots believe that you can trust terrorists or negotiate with them., short term friends do not make long term allies.

October 11th, 2012, 8:43 am

 

annie said:

Alaouite woman colonel defects

http://youtu.be/Kf8uW3goIaI

October 11th, 2012, 8:44 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Did Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov actually say what is claimed in the link and what was the context? :

“Thank God Assad is not the president of Russia.”

https://twitter.com/syriancommando/status/255762378883481600

October 11th, 2012, 8:51 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, Most High.

FSA heroes in 7Homs repel Assad criminal bands and inflict heavy casualties on the thugs. Video shows clearly the deception of thugs media,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/11/243081.html

From now on, I will start every comment with the same opening as above.

October 11th, 2012, 8:54 am

 

annie said:

http://qunfuz.com/2012/10/11/the-fall-of-the-house-of-asad/

Lesch finished writing before the FSA became more effective, before the high-level defections and assassinations of top figures. His book inevitably suffers slightly from the gaps and editorial lapses of a book rushed out in haste. It is also difficult to read that Lesch still holds Assad’s spokeswoman Bouthaina Shaaban “in high regard” (“Do you think this system would accept torture?” she asked Channel 4 in outraged tones).

Stephen Starr’s excellent “Revolt in Syria: Eyewitness to the Uprising” offers a more street-level account, but the strengths of Lesch’s book are his solid analysis and his previous access to the top which, while not providing any particularly new insights, does add an interesting layer of personal observation. Lesch’s disillusion echoes that of ordinary Syrians, and he is therefore ideally placed to chart how the dictator’s smugness has pulled Syria, this ancient country, into the abyss.

October 11th, 2012, 8:56 am

 

zoo said:

#361 Mina

The whole operation was triggered by ‘an information’ received by the Turks. They acted as Erdogan always does, hastily and ignoring the basics of civil aviation laws. They were probably thinking they would give a blow to Russia that is sneaking weapons in Syria and humiliate Syria. The Turks treated the crew like criminals, handcuffing them, denied access to doctors and Russian diplomats to the 17 Russian passengers, many of whom many were children.

Overall they did a theatrical mess. It shows the rage and frustration of the Turkish government running out of options to free themselves from the quagmire they have put themselves in with the endless cost of 200,000 refugees, their borders in trouble and the PKK more deadly than ever.

Now, of course they would claim on local TV, for public consumption that they found ‘something’, otherwise their whole operation would look even more absurd and excessive. The TV provided no photos that proves the TRT report, to my knowledge.
The official declaration are hazy, vague and contradictory. They did not find weapons, so they talk about “communication parts” then about ‘questionnable’ items. Foreign media who wants to avoid ridiculing Erdogan further is picking this unconfirmed ‘report’ and transforming it into a headline.
Unless they spell out exactly what they found, I believe they have been framed by a false warning and fell straight into the trap.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-syrian-plane-carried-military-comms-gear-082817173.html

October 11th, 2012, 9:00 am

 

zoo said:

#31 Ghufran

In desperation, the rebels are counting on the devil for help while insisting in invoking God.

October 11th, 2012, 9:02 am

 

zoo said:

Is the Glass Half Full for Syria’s Assad?

He may no longer control huge swathes of Syrian territory, but his forces appear nowhere near collapse. Over the past 18 months, at least, the dictator has beaten the odds

By Tony Karon October 11, 2012
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/10/11/is-the-glass-half-full-for-syrias-assad/#ixzz28zngB1Ki

The expected collapse of Assad’s armed forces has failed to materialize, and defections to the rebel side have slowed to a trickle. Instead of signaling an imminent denouement, the incremental gains and losses of each side along the shifting front-lines suggests a strategic stalemate, in which neither side is capable of delivering the other a knockout blow
….
But for all Turkey’s bluster — and NATO’s obligatory vows “to protect and defend Turkey if necessary” — the fact that the provocative shelling from the Syrian side continued for six days suggests that Assad is calling the bluff of his old friend, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. A majority of the Turkish public opposes sending troops into Syria; the war has already imposed an economic burden on Turkey through the cutoff of trade and the refugee crisis,

Insulating Jordan could even be a two-way street, not only preventing the Syrian military from conducting cross-border operations but also preventing anti-Assad insurgents using it as a sanctuary from which to stage attacks:

Assad if far from achieving that goal, and he may never do so. But with the second anniversary of the Syrian rebellion just over four months away, he may have more reason for satisfaction over the course of events, at this point, than do his adversaries.

October 11th, 2012, 9:13 am

 

Syrialover said:

Thoughtful and interesting piece on changing American attitudes to the Middle East by Rami Khouri who has just been in the US.

Article – America’s New Modesty in the Mideast

Excerpt:

The many Americans I have engaged in conversations seem more realistic and sober than ever before about Middle Eastern issues and peoples. I have also sensed much less arrogance on the most appropriate role for the U.S. in the region, and in most cases a greater sense of humility about the limits of what the U.S. can and cannot do in this fast-changing region, where local actors drive events and the global powers tend to respond to rather than initiate change.

An important consequence of this is that more Americans now seem to view the Middle East, and react politically to its people and leaders, in a more pragmatic and nuanced manner than in recent years, when a more cartoon-like mentality prevailed that saw the region as a single lump with good guys and bad guys and nothing in between. Some new research tends to confirm this.

This week has seen the publication of a poll-based study entitled “Americans on the Middle East: A Study of American Public Opinion,” headed by Shibley Telhami and Steven Kull, of the University of Maryland’s Anwar Sadat Chair and the Program on International Policy Attitudes.

Read more:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Columnist/2012/Oct-10/190803-americas-new-modesty-in-the-mideast.ashx#axzz28zlp4mC2

October 11th, 2012, 9:16 am

 

Mina said:

Zoo, Obviously France seems to keep aligned to Qatar until the Doha meeting. Suicide bombings are presented as efficient, while the anglo-saxon press has kept a distance since 2 weeks. Turkey sticks to the Qatari-French bet. They want Khaddam for president?

October 11th, 2012, 9:18 am

 

Citizen said:

25. SYRIALOVER
do not mind! I have nothing to talk about with you, and obviously you do not blog owner. space enough for everyone under the sun! look for other opponents!

October 11th, 2012, 9:20 am

 

ghufran said:

أقر المعارض السوري منذر خدام القيادي في هيئة التنسيق الوطنية بأن موقف الهيئة من عسكرة الانتفاضة كان موقفاً “موارباً وخجولاً” ولم يعد يستقيم مع التطورات الحاصلة على الأرض خاصةً لجهة هيمنة القوى الاسلامية المتطرفة على الحراك الثوري وتهديدها ليس للثورة وحسب وإنما للدولة والمجتمع السوري.
وقال خدام عبر صفحته على الفايس بوك أن موقف الهيئة لم يعد صالحاً ويحتاج إلى مراجعة، وضرورة اتخاذ موقف صريح وواضح من المعارضة المسلحة.
وفي هجوم هو الأعنف من نوعه موجه من قبل أحد قياديي هيئة التنسيق في الداخل على الجيش الحر قال خدام: ” تسمية هذا الجيش بالجيش الحر لم تعد صالحة ولا تعكس واقع حال المعارضة المسلحة، وهي تستخدم اليوم لتبييض كثير من الأفعال الإجرامية التي تقوم بها تنظيمات إرهابية موصوفة”.
wait for Khaddam to be called a traitor by freedom lovers

October 11th, 2012, 9:26 am

 

zoo said:

#40 Mina

France’s foreign policy is only geared toward getting money to sustain their failing economy. They are always desperate for money.

Not long ago, they were doing great business with The Shah of Iran, then with Saddam Hussein when it was under US sanctions, they were deploying the red carpet to Qaddafi and now they flirt outrageously with Qatar who promise billions of dollars of investment in France.
Their mantra is “cherchez l’argent”.

France does not count anymore as a country with moral rectitude or vision. It is in decline and desperately struggle to still have a voice in the international arena, but the sound is more like a croak that nobody wants to hear.

October 11th, 2012, 9:29 am

 

ghufran said:

أصدرت مجموعة تطلق على نفسها اسم «تجمع دعاة الشام» بيانا قالت فيه إن «الثورة وصلت إلى مرحلة من الاستعصاء والمراوحة في المكان والأفق المسدود»، واعتبرت أن «الثورة كانت خيرا مما هي عليه الآن وحاضنتها الشعبية كانت أكبر»، وأن «تصحيح الأخطاء بات واجبا، واستمرار تجاهلها سيحولها إلى مصائب تغير مسار الثورة».
كما أشار البيان إلى ما وصفه بـ«استهتار عدد من القيادات بتضحيات الناس وبكلفة الثورة العالية»، وأنهم «لا يعيرون اهتماما بحجم الدمار والخراب الذي تسببه تحركاتهم». واعتبر أن «ما وصلت إليه معركة حلب يؤكد وجود ضعف واضح في القيادات الميدانية»، و«جهل مطبق وقلة فهم لطبيعة المعركة في المدينة.. والفروق الجوهرية بينها وبين معركة الريف»، مشيرا إلى عدد من «الأخطاء الجسيمة التي وقعت في حلب».
واعتبر البيان أن دخول منطقة السبع بحرات، التي تضم عددا من المؤسسات والمصالح الحيوية للمواطنين، وتضررها «يؤثر بشكل مباشر على المواطنين دون أن يؤثر على النظام»، كما اعتبر أن دخول المناطق الصناعية والتجارية «أثر على اقتصاد الناس وأدى إلى بطالة آلاف العمال».
ولفت البيان إلى «عدم قدرة كتائب الجيش الحر المشرذمة والمختلفة على حفظ أمن الناس»، وإلى «تباطؤهم في إقامة العقوبة على السارقين المندسين في صفوفهم»، وإلى «عدم إقامة شرع الله بين الثوار»، وذلك «بحجة عدم تفريق الكلمة وخوفا من الفتن القبلية والعشائرية».

October 11th, 2012, 9:33 am

 

ghufran said:

أعلن الكرملين (الرئاسة الروسية) أن الرئيس الروسي فلاديمير بوتين ألغى زيارته المقررة الى أنقرة. وقال: “قرر الرئيس بوتين ارجاء زيارته الى تركيا الى موعد غير مسمى”.
Putin cancelled his scheduled trip to Turkey

October 11th, 2012, 9:35 am

 

Mina said:

Egyptians still try to cross to Syria “to harvest apples”
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/egyptians-shot-jordan-syria-border
The Egyptian Embassy in Amman is negotiating the release of six Egyptians arrested while crossing the border into Syria.

Border guards reportedly shot at the six people, injuring at least two who were then sent to a hospital in Amman.

Egyptian Consul to Amman Sherif Mokhtar visited the two men, who are in stable condition in the hospital after sustaining leg and neck injuries.

The men reportedly told Mokhtar that they traveled to Jordan legally on work contracts and then intended to cross the border into Syria or Lebanon to find employment harvesting apples. They said they did not know the fate of their four companions.

The Egyptian Foreign Ministry and embassies in Damascus and Amman have issued several warnings about the risks of attempting to cross Syrian borders, but this has not deterred many from making the attempt.

October 11th, 2012, 9:36 am

 

zoo said:

BULLY TURKEY in action.

Turkish officials forced Syrian passengers to sign fake papers: Claim

Thursday,October 11 2012
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-officials-forced-syrian-passengers-to-sign-fake-papers-claim-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32180&NewsCatID=359

Passengers on a Syrian passenger plane that was grounded for several hours by Turkish authorities on Oct. 10 said they were forced to sign “fake papers” indicating that the aircraft had made an emergency landing.

October 11th, 2012, 9:45 am

 

zoo said:

46. Mina

It seems that some Egyptians find Bashar’s Syria more attractive than Morsi’s Egypt.

October 11th, 2012, 9:47 am

 

ghufran said:

أعلن وزير الطاقة التركي تانر يلديز أن سوريا أوقفت شراء الكهرباء من تركيا الأسبوع الماضي .
و أضاف ” يلديز” أن بلاده مستعدة لتلبية طلب سوريا عند الحاجة “.
و أشار وزير الطاقة التركي أن بلاده كانت تسد نحو 20 % من احتياجات سوريا
Turkey may consider providing free electricity to rebel-held areas in the north and reduce the burden on Syrian treasury.

October 11th, 2012, 9:48 am

 

Tara said:

The Turkiah stunt is a slap on the face of Russia and Mr. Batta. Let us see what they can do about it.

Additionally, please you guys do not mention children.. I just do not like fake emotions.

October 11th, 2012, 9:49 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, Most High.

Turkish Foreign Ministry summons Russian ambassador in Ankara to inform him of Turkey’s displeasure for misusing its airspace by Russia and rogue criminal regims in Damascus and to deliver a stern warning to Russia not to repeat the transport of weapons aboard seemingly civilian aircraft.

October 11th, 2012, 10:02 am

 

zoo said:

Syria demands return of plane cargo seized by Ankara

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/-syria-demands-return-of-plane-cargo-seized-by-ankara.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32169&NewsCatID=359

Syria’s foreign ministry demanded that Turkey return cargo seized from a Syrian Air jet after it was intercepted and forced to land in Ankara.

“The Syrian government calls on the Turkish authorities for a complete and proper restitution of the contents of the plane,” the ministry said in a statement.

October 11th, 2012, 10:09 am

 

Tara said:

A good day today. One can sense the agitation of the weak and guilty..what is the second slap on the face of the embattled humiliated Syrian president is going to be?

October 11th, 2012, 10:48 am

 

jna said:

The Airbus A320 airliner with about 30 passengers on board was intercepted on Wednesday evening by two Turkish fighters and escorted to the capital’s Esenboga airport.

Turkey’s Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told the Anatolia news agency that illegal and “objectionable” cargo which “should have been reported” was found during a search and confiscated.

He did not specify whether any weapons had been found, but unconfirmed reports in Turkish media said the seized items included boxes of military communication equipment. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19912532?print=true

Are these boxes like the military communication equipment that the United States, Turkey, etc. are supplying to the Syrian terrorists?

October 11th, 2012, 11:14 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, Most High.

The humiliation of the Russian thugs and their stooges, the criminal band occupying Damascus and few parts of Syria continues,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/11/243153.html

We thank our Turkish brothers for conducting this noble act of preventing weapons from landing in the hands of shabbi7ha terrorists. We also thank the Turks for not providing food and water to terrorist thugs, most likely Russian mafia, that were on board of the so-called civilian plane

October 11th, 2012, 11:23 am

 

zoo said:

Turkey thinks it is beyond the UN: It arms terrorists and pirates planes.
One day after the incident Putin postpones his visit to Turkey to December.

Russia intervenes over Syrian airliner

Financial Times
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d2749540-12ce-11e2-aa9c-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz290KRBvpQ

Russia is demanding an explanation from Turkey over its detention on Wednesday of a Syrian civilian aeroplane en route from Moscow to Damascus with Russian citizens on board.

Syria is not subject to a UN arms embargo – partly because Russia and China have vetoed UN Security Council resolutions against the Assad regime. Nonetheless, Turkey has announced unilateral sanctions against any use of its land or airspace for the transport of weapons for the regime, although it is widely thought to allow arms shipments to the rebels

October 11th, 2012, 11:27 am

 

zoo said:

#54 JNA

Yes, the famous “non lethal” supplies that France and the US are sending to the Syrian rebels through Turkey with total impunity.

October 11th, 2012, 11:33 am

 

zoo said:

Interview with Egyptian Islamist figure, Mohamed al-Zawahiri, brother of Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri,

http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=31404

As for the issue of implementing Islamic Sharia law in Egypt, al-Zawahiri told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the current situation under the presidency of Mohamed Mursi is, no doubt, a thousand times better than the previous era.” However he acknowledged “we are very far from implementing Islamic Sharia law.”

Mohamed al-Zawahiri has also put forward a peace plan between the West and Islamists. In an exclusive interview with CNN, al-Zawahiri volunteered to serve as an intermediary between the Islamists and the United States and the West, adding that if anyone can talk his brother – Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri – out of violence, it’s him.

CNN revealed the six-page peace proposal includes a number of pre-conditions, including America ceasing to intervene in Muslim lands and in Muslim education, as well as Washington ending its “war on Islam” and releasing all Islamist prisoners. The peace plan also called on Islamists to stop attacking Western and US interests, stop provoking the US and the West and even protect legitimate western and US interests in Muslim lands.

Al-Zawahiri revealed that he had told Egyptian authorities during his detention that he could work a truce with Islamists, but said that his jailers were not interested. He told CNN “if this idea had succeeded, September 11 would not have happened in the first place” adding “I hope this opportunity today is not wasted.”

October 11th, 2012, 12:04 pm

 

ghufran said:

اقتحمت ظهر اليوم الخميس مجموعة مسلحة منزل المواطن “عبد المنعم موسى العبود” شقيق عضو مجلس الشعب السوري “خالد العبود” وأطلقت النار عليه ما أدى إلى مقتله،
وأوضح مصدر في المحافظة أن 7 مسلحين اقتحموا منزل “العبود” وأطلقوا النار عليه نقل على إثرها إلى مشفى درعا الوطني لكنه قتل متأثرا بإصاباته
people who casually kill other people have no right to demand freedom and democracy. you can disagree or condemn people’s political views or behavior but a death sentence requires a crime that is too severe that only death can be the right punishment. those of you who are cheering assassinations of Syrians who have different political views are thugs with computers.

October 11th, 2012, 12:08 pm

 

zoo said:

#26 Tara

“Whine here and there” “he can only bark on the international arena”

It seems this applies much better to Erdogan.

Never Syria has threatened Turkey verbally, in the contrary it has just reiterated that it wants friendly relation with Turkey.

October 11th, 2012, 12:10 pm

 

ghufran said:

أعلن رئيس الوزراء التركي “رجب طيب اردوغان” ان طائرة الركاب السورية القادمة من موسكو الى دمشق والتي ارغمت على الهبوط في مطار انقرة كانت تحمل على متنها حمولة لاستخدامات عسكرية، قائلا خلال مؤتمر صحفي مع رئيس كازاخستان “نورسلطان نازارباييف” في انقرة اليوم الخميس إن “الحمولة المنقولة كانت مرسلة من قبل منظمة روسية لوزارة الدفاع السورية”.
I think Erdogan is lying or at least is refusing to admit that Turkey violated international law and may not have a case if Turkey becomes the next victim of sky piracy.

October 11th, 2012, 12:11 pm

 

Observer said:

This is what ZOO wrote

“The whole operation was triggered by ‘an information’ received by the Turks. They acted as Erdogan always does, hastily and ignoring the basics of civil aviation laws. They were probably thinking they would give a blow to Russia that is sneaking weapons in Syria and humiliate Syria. The Turks treated the crew like criminals, handcuffing them, denied access to doctors and Russian diplomats to the 17 Russian passengers, many of whom many were children.

Overall they did a theatrical mess. It shows the rage and frustration of the Turkish government running out of options to free themselves from the quagmire they have put themselves in with the endless cost of 200,000 refugees, their borders in trouble and the PKK more deadly than ever.

Now, of course they would claim on local TV, for public consumption that they found ‘something’, otherwise their whole operation would look even more absurd and excessive. The TV provided no photos that proves the TRT report, to my knowledge.
The official declaration are hazy, vague and contradictory. They did not find weapons, so they talk about “communication parts” then about ‘questionnable’ items. Foreign media who wants to avoid ridiculing Erdogan further is picking this unconfirmed ‘report’ and transforming it into a headline.
Unless they spell out exactly what they found, I believe they have been framed by a false warning and fell straight into the trap.”

If we are to believe him, Turkish refugees are streaming out of Turkey and their villages are being abandoned and their businesses are being destroyed.

What ZOO is saying is that the regime in Syria is willing to kill and force its own people as refugees on Turkey to survive.

This is the famous SAA that Norman has been touting that cannot do anything except bomb from the air and use long range artillery and even at that cannot shoot straight either.

Any news from Qurdaha in fighting

October 11th, 2012, 12:17 pm

 

ghufran said:

أقدم مسلحون من الجيش الحر على اغتيال نجل عضو مجلس الشعب السوري محمد خير الماشي ظهر اليوم الخميس في هجوم على قرية الماشي بمنطقة أبو قلقل بريف منبج .
وقال محمد خير الماشي إن مسلحين تسللوا إلى القرية قدموا من منطقة الباب أقدموا على اغتيال ابني دياب .
وتعبر عائلة الماشي وهم شيوخ عشيرة البوبنة من العائلات المؤيدة بقوة لحكم حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي .
و يأتي الحادث بعد ساعات من اغتيال عبد شقيق عضو مجلس الشعب عن حزب الوحدويين الاشتراكيين خالد العبو
we all know this is not going to help the rebels.

October 11th, 2012, 12:17 pm

 

zoo said:

#59 Ghufran

The thugs are acrimonious and frustrated behind their computer when they see that all their internet, facebook, twitter, youtube, Blogs calling for a merciless war brought no change to the Syrian government but are affecting negatively millions of civilians.

They will soon have to just disconnect to keep what is left of their sanity.

October 11th, 2012, 12:18 pm

 

zoo said:

#62 Observer

Thanks for quoting me in full… I am flattered.
Please refrain to add your own subtitles.

October 11th, 2012, 12:21 pm

 

zoo said:

Ghufran

The hijacking of the Syrian plan appears like a theatrical retaliation for the Turkish plane shot down reported in about a hundred different versions of what happened, including the ridiculous Al Arabya story of the pilot bodies thrown back to the sea after having been tortured.

In the next few days, we will hear contradictory hundred versions of what really happened in Ankara airport and what was the mysterious content that was seized.
I am anxiously waiting for the new imaginative version “confirmed” by “documents” that Al Arabya will come with. Will it be nuclear components, gas masks? Coming from Al Jazeera and Al Arabya, any fantasy is possible

October 11th, 2012, 12:31 pm

 

zoo said:

The Turkey serial saga has started..

What about the “missile spare parts” or the “communications devices” reported earlier. Maybe they were ammunition disguised in telecom equipment?

Russian defense agency sent ammunition: PM

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russian-defense-agency-sent-ammunition-pm.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32257&NewsCatID=359

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said that that the Syrian passenger plane forced to land in Ankara Oct. 10 was carrying BANNED AMMUNITION, and named a Russian agency as sending the material to Syria.

October 11th, 2012, 12:52 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Where are we at?

Connie has left for Dubai. Perhaps she could sense the trouble brewing on the coast?

Kay, for the meantime, seems to be staying put along with the kids.

As for Michael (or Fredo), when he was recalled from Sicily…I mean Britain, he wouldn’t have expected this much trouble down the line from Solozzo the Turk…I mean Erdogan. At least not as big a challenge as Don Vito…I mean his father Hafez Assad faced from the Turk.

The Saga continues. We’re in the third and final part…

October 11th, 2012, 12:56 pm

 

ghufran said:

قال مسؤول كبير في الامم المتحدة إن الإسلاميين المتشددين الذين يسيطرون على جزء من مالي يجمعون أموالا طائلة من الفدية وتجارة المخدرات بينما يفرضون ما يقولون إنها الشريعة الإسلامية.
وقال إيفان سايمونفيتش، مبعوث الأمم المتحدة بعد زيارة لتقصي الحقائق إلى مالي، إن هؤلاء الإسلاميين “يشترون أيضا الجنود الأطفال ويدفعون لأسرهم 600 دولار عن كل طفل”.
وكان متشددون إسلاميون قد سيطروا على ثلثي مالي في شهر مارس/آذار الماضي عندما أدى انقلاب عسكري إلى غرق البلاد في الفوضى.
ورسم سايمونفيتش صورة كئيبة لانتهاكات حقوق الإنسان في المناطق التي يسيطر عليها الإسلاميون المتشددون.
وأشار سايمونفيتش، وهو مساعد الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة لحقوق الإنسان، إلى أن حقوق المرأة بشكل خاص تعاني القيود. وتحدث عن وجود قائمة ” رعب” للسيدات غير المتزوجات الذين يحملن أو لديهن أطفال.
وأضاف “المزيد من السيدات يجبرن على الزواج دون رغبتهن. وقال إن الحصول على زوجة يكلف أقل من 1000 دولار، وإنه يجري إعادة بيع الزوجات “فيما يمثل دعارة بالإكراه”.
وقال المسؤول الدولي للصحفيين في نيويورك الأربعاء” انتهاكات حقوق الإنسان تتحول بشكل متزايد إلى سلوك منظم”، مضيفا إن الإسلاميين المتشددين “يفرضون رؤية متطرفة للشريعة”.
بتر أعضاء وجلد
وقد جمعت بعثة تقصي الحقائق معلومات من الناس الذين يترددون على شمالي مالي حيث يفرض المتشددون الإسلاميون عقوبات أكثر قسوة على مرتكبي الجرائم.
وقال سايمونفيتش إنه حتى الآن حدثت ثلاث حالات إعدام في ميادين عامة وثماني حالات قطع أطراف وحالتا جلد.
latest edition of Islamist Thugs,LTD

October 11th, 2012, 1:00 pm

 

ann said:

‘Turkey’s interception of Syria-bound plane an act of war OKed by US’ – Oct 10, 2012

October 11th, 2012, 1:15 pm

 

Citizen said:

MP: Turkish Army can Reach Damascus ‘In only 3 Hours’
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/143314/mp-turkish-army-can-reach-damascus-for-three-hours-.html

Why don’t you reach al quds in three hours you sellout puppets your end is coming very soon.

October 11th, 2012, 1:20 pm

 

ann said:

Top of the Morning: Going Rate for Child Soldiers in Mali: $600 – 1 Hour ago

http://www.undispatch.com/top-of-the-morning-going-rate-for-child-soldiers-in-mali-600-uk-government-backed-restoration-of-aid-to-rwanda

Human Rights Situation Sharply Deteriorating in Mali. UN Report: Child Soldiers Going for $600

A Top UN Human Rights Official Briefed the Security Council on Monday on the deteriorating situation in Mali. “Islamists imposing Islamic law in Mali’s north are abusing human rights, particularly those of women, and paying families for children to become rebel fighters, a senior U.N. official said on Wednesday after returning from the country. U.N. Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights Ivan Simonovic said rebel fighters, including Islamist extremists allied to al Qaeda, in northern Mali were “buying loyalty” by abolishing taxes and paying for fighters and wives in a country where more than half the people live on less than $1.25 a day…During the first phase we had violations that were related to rebels taking control, they included summary execution of the captured soldiers, instances of lootings, of rapes,” he told reporters at the United Nations in New York. “However, what is new now is that human rights violations are becoming more systematic, relating to the takeover of the radical Islamists,” he said. “They have now imposed an extremist version of sharia, so the population is suffering a number of human rights violations, particularly targeted at women”… Children are particularly vulnerable in the north,” Simonovic said. “There is an attempt to enlist them as child soldiers. There is reliable evidence of many children being enlisted; their families (are) paid about $600 or a little bit less.”

[…]

http://www.undispatch.com/top-of-the-morning-going-rate-for-child-soldiers-in-mali-600-uk-government-backed-restoration-of-aid-to-rwanda

October 11th, 2012, 1:23 pm

 

Citizen said:

67. ЗООПАРК
انها هواتف خلوية

روسيا تصنع أول محمول بتكنولوجيا “النانو”
موسكو: بدأت روسيا في تصنيع أول هاتف جوال يحتوي شريحة مزدوجة لنظامي الملاحة “جي بي إس” الأمريكي و”غلوناس” الروسي ويعمل بشريحة انتجت بتقنية “النانو”.
ويقارن الهاتف الجديد بالجوال “آي فون 4 جي” ويتفوق عليه باستخدام نظامي الملاحة “جي بي اس” الأمريكي و”جلوناس” الروسي مما يرفع دقة تحديد الموقع إلى 93% عوضاً عن 64% التي تتيحها أجهزة “جي بي إس” المتواجدة في الأسواق حالياً.
وأشار فلاديمير يفتوشينكوف رئيس شركة “سيستيما” المالية خلال لقاء مع رئيس الوزارء الروسي فلاديمير، إلى أن الهاتف الجوال الجديد سيظهر في السوق الروسية في 1 مارس المقبل، وسيبلغ سعره نحو 360 دولاراً أمريكياً.
ومن جانبه، اقترح رئيس الوزراء الروسي إنزال الهاتف الجديد إلى الأسواق يوم 8 مارس الذي يوافق الاحتفال بيوم المرأة العالمي.

October 11th, 2012, 1:36 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, Most High.

While Russia contiues to bark…

Our dearest Turkish friend Mr. Erdogan comfirms that the airoplane that was intercepted was carrying weapons for use in terrorist plots by the Russian mafia and the criminal terrorist thugs of the regime occupying Damascus,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/11/243153.html

Again many many thanks to our Turkish brothers.

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It has also been shown from top sect=ret documents that the criminal regime occupying Damascus used ambulances to carry out terrorist acts. The document also reveal the names of Syrians lying in the dungeons of the terrorist regime.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/11/243159.html

October 11th, 2012, 1:37 pm

 

Citizen said:

Turkey endangers lives of Russians on Syria-bound plane – FM
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/543031.html
MOSCOW, October 11 (Itar-Tass) — Turkey’s actions have put at risk the lives of Russians that were on board a plane of Syrian Airlines, and Moscow demands explanations, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich stated on Thursday.
The diplomat recalled that the Turkish authorities on the night from October 10 to 11 forced a Syrian civilian plane that was flying from Moscow to Damascus to land at Ankara airport.
“We are troubled that the lives of the passengers aboard the plane, including 17 Russian citizens were put at risk by this inappropriate act. Turkey did not inform Russia that Russian citizens were among those detained on the plane. We found this out through the electronic media,” Lukashevich said.
“The Russian Embassy in Ankara demanded that the Turkish authorities provide access to the Russian citizens. Consular officials and a doctor were sent to the airport,” the RF Foreign Ministry specified. “However, the Turkish authorities without explaining the reason and in violation of the bilateral Consular Convention did not allow the diplomats to meet with our citizens, which during 8 hours were not admitted into the airport building, only sometimes they were allowed to come down on the tarmac,” Lukashevich stated. “Meals were not provided to them,” Lukashevich stated.
The Russian side “continues to insist on the need of explaining of the reasons for such actions of the Turkish authorities against Russian citizens and taking measures to prevent incidents of the kind in the future.”

October 11th, 2012, 2:08 pm

 

Syrian Natonalist Party said:

71. Citizensaid:
MP: Turkish Army can Reach Damascus ‘In only 3 Hours’
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/143314/mp-turkish-army-can-reach-damascus-for-three-hours-.html

Why don’t you reach al quds in three hours you sellout puppets your end is coming very soon.
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SNP future forces can destroy the entire civilian fleet and military air force of Turkey in less than 30 minutes, in a semiuletaness strike, at a cost less than $30,000. It can also prevent any aircraft to fly off ocean based carrier; rendering them obsolete for the purpose they were built. One of the military strategies planned by SNP military command is to entice the Turks to invade Syria in less than 3 Hours, force them to bring it all in at once, then after, box them in from the North, cut them off, having “Geronimo Brigade” slaughter the invaders, then use the Turkish tanks saved to liberate Iskenderun. Having after they invade Syria not a single aircraft whatsoever, not a single aircraft can fly off ship based crafts, those humongously expensive ships floating coffins, with Syria strategic missiles raining on their cities, shopping malls, and Islamic whore houses, liberating Iskenderun is in fact will be far less than 3 hours.

Some issue though still pending, like should the liberator army stop at the old 1930’ border or expand it all the way to Mersin, basically, include Tarsus and Adana, along the foothill until it meet the “Syrian Gulf”. The issue here is that, the topography of this triangle is troubling; it is on average less than 35’ above sea level in a highly active seismic region. As Urban Planner now learned, this will be a recipe for imminent disaster to happen should habitats expanded there. Planners must insure that any outcome of such a liberation move must not affect our relation with Turkmen people. A Zero conflict with neighbors State and (tribes claiming to be one) policy must permeate the relation in the day after, so all the slaughtered Turkmen invaded Syria must be buried according to Islamic Sharia Law.

Yo Dim wits, contact the Agha for more info and price list.

October 11th, 2012, 2:10 pm

 

Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:

Can’t believe I made it to the blog, thank you Prof. Landis.

Who murdered Mufti Hassoun’s son Sariya and why?
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/who-murdered-mufti-hassouns-son-sariya-and-why/

October 11th, 2012, 2:22 pm

 
 
 

Syrian Natonalist Party said:

The supreme guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi emanated, called on Thursday for a jihad to liberate Jerusalem from Israeli rule.

“Jerusalem is Islamic … and nobody is entitled to make concessions” on the Holy City, said Sheikh Mohammed Badie in his weekly message to supporters.

“The jihad for the recovery of Jerusalem is a duty for all Muslims,” he said, stressing that the liberation of the Holy City “will not be done through negotiations or at the United Nations.”

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I would offered you help have I known for 1% or less you are telling the truth. But I know you are a liar, like all Moslems.

First, if you are serious, start your JIHAD on your candidate/President Morsi, kick his ass out of office and replace him with Khalid Islambouli, then one can see you are the real sh**t. For now, you should know, you are an Egyptian slave of Amen, still to this day, like the Shia of Iran, Wahabis Of Arabia, you have no will power, only what Amen will for you, you will fulfill with total obedience, you bow 5 times a day to him and recite his name after every five words sourat in the Quran. 85 Million Egyptians rendered useless for Egypt, the Middle East and Islam, this is the deception that you do not see.

October 11th, 2012, 2:46 pm

 

jna said:

#Nasrallah: The media propaganda was based on some border issues. Our martyr Abou 3abbas was a #Hezbollah cadre in Beqa3 #Lebanon not #Syria
https://twitter.com/Zentensity/status/256457943803916288

Nasrallah: Leave #Hezbollah outside the fight in #Syria, you shouldn’t threaten us. More importantly, don’t test us and thank you.
https://twitter.com/Zentensity/status/256459945380298752

October 11th, 2012, 2:51 pm

 
 

Warren said:

Christian boy in Pakistan arrested for blasphemy

A 16-year-old Christian boy has been held on blasphemy charges in the Pakistani city of Karachi.

The boy, named by police as Ryan Stanten, is said to have forwarded a text message which allegedly contained offensive material on Tuesday.

The following day an angry crowd ransacked his family home, setting fire to their belongings on the street.

Pakistan’s blasphemy laws have been criticised for their severity and for being open to abuse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19906528

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More Paki barbarism, the shameless hypocrisy of these Pakis is breathtaking. Pakis complain in the West, they are being discriminated against and unfairly criticized. For their record of: forced marriages, heroin trade, illegal immigration, welfare use, gang rapes, fraud, extremism and terrorism.

Yet we see time and time again, Pakis persecute and murder minorities they lord over!

The Paki tayyiqqa mentality is staggering!

October 11th, 2012, 3:13 pm

 

Warren said:

Senegal: Graves desecrated in Christian cemeteries

DAKAR, Senegal (AP) – Roman Catholic church officials say nearly 160 graves have been desecrated in the two largest Christian cemeteries in Senegal’s capital.

The Rev. Roger Gomis, head of communications for the archdiocese of Dakar, said Thursday that crucifixes had been torn off of gravestones in Christian cemeteries.

The church said the vandalism had taken place over the last several months.

http://www.newswest9.com/story/19794949/senegal-graves-desecrated-in-christian-cemeteries

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Sunnis once more demonstrating their tolerance.

October 11th, 2012, 3:20 pm

 

Tara said:

The opposition slowly does it while the Syrian people are slaughtered and while the ammunition of the FSA getting depleted. Can they bear any slower?

• A Syrian opposition conference that was due to have taken place in the Qatari capital Doha has now been postponed until November to encourage wider representation at the urging of western governments, diplomats say. Plans are afoot to include a Turkmen bloc and Nasserists as well as representatives from activist groups involved in the uprising inside Syria.

October 11th, 2012, 3:26 pm

 

Warren124@yahoo.co.uk said:

As Assad Hangs on, Turkey Confronts Failure in Syria

By:Andrew Parasiliti posted on Tuesday, Oct 9, 2012

Turkish President Abdullah Gul said this week that Syria is becoming the “worst-case scenario that we’ve all been dreading.”

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/turkeysyriacase.html#ixzz291KEfe6p

October 11th, 2012, 3:28 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

Like these Bedouin States, Iran and Syria, Egyptian spent billions on useless weapon, not to liberate Moslem land or free Moslems from oppression, but to spend a day watching it all to make their low esteemed ego feels good. Others, changed and made history, not needing and spending billions, but just having own will power and divine guidance. Al Dajjal rose from Najd to destroy the Nations of the Middle East; millions followed him, lacking the will power and divine guidance. They will lose. But those that fight for justice and honor to their god, not greed and service to the Jewish Bankers, will be glorified in the eye of the divine god.

October 11th, 2012, 3:39 pm

 

Warren said:

‘No Russian weapons’ on board Syrian plane detained in Turkey

Russia is demanding an explanation from Turkey after a Syrian civilian plane en route from Moscow to Damascus with Russian citizens on board was detained by Ankara.

The ministry said that Turkish authorities refused to grant Russian diplomatic staff access to 17 Russian citizens on board during the eight hours that the flight was held up because of suspicions the aircraft was carrying military equipment.

“The Russian side is insisting on an explanation of the reasons for such actions by the Turkish authorities,” the statement said. It said that “the lives and safety of the passengers were placed under threat” by the incident.

Earlier, a Russian arms exporting agency source claimed no Russian weapons were on board a Syrian plane detained by Turkey en route from Moscow to Damascus, a Russian arms exporting agency source claimed today.

Parts of the cargo were seized in Turkey before the passenger jet continued its trip, but no details were given of its contents.

“Neither weapons nor any systems or assembly parts for military equipment were or could have been on board the passenger plane,” the unidentified high-ranking source from one of Russia’s arms exporting agencies told Interfax.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9600875/No-Russian-weapons-on-board-Syrian-plane-detained-in-Turkey.html
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Erdogan and the Turks will regret this stunt. The Russians will hit back hard, you can guarantee that! Turkey depends a lot on Russian gas, the Russians in the past sold below market price to Turkey on the grounds it was a “strategic partner”, expect the Turks to pay up from now on!

Nor is this petulant Turkish stunt going to dissuade and frighten the Russians from supporting their staunchest ally in the middle east. Expect the Russians to be more firm in their support for Syria, Russia will not allow itself to be bullied by the Turks. The Turks have bitten off more than they can chew, Russia does not hesitate to act in its own interests and kill threats to its national security. Whether it be killing Chechen terrorists in Doha or Istanbul. Reversing colour revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia; Russia is a geopolitical grandmaster it will retaliate.

October 11th, 2012, 3:44 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Wow ZOO,

You’re inexhausable, nonstop over over several threads. Your tough little fisitcuffs pounding the keys against Turkey and Eedogan until sparks and flames are coming out of your keyboard.

Doesn’t it bother you that you could be personally bringing NATO into this dispute?

The Turks will be wailing and tearfully begging NATO to rescue their nation after your savage attacks here on SC.

But wait, it might not be a good thing for pinhead thug Bashar Assad to have all those lethal drones and other smart weaponry whirring around so close.

You’re not a double agent are you, ZOO?

October 11th, 2012, 3:48 pm

 

Tara said:

As much as I enjoyed humiliating Batta with the recent show down, at the end of the day, no one is providing the FSA with serious weapons that can change the current balance of power. Time to stop the rhetoric and covertly provide the FSA with shoulder to air missiles that can neutralize Batta’s air dominance. The FSA can’t be fed rhetoric and theatrical stunts, they need weapons.

October 11th, 2012, 4:17 pm

 

ghufran said:

أعلن الأمين العام لحزب الله السيد “حسن نصر الله” مساء اليوم الخميس أن طائرة الاستطلاع التي خرقت اجواء فلسطين المحتلة وحلقت في جنوب فلسطين وفوق مناطق حساسة وصولا الى قرب منطقة ديمونا ارسلتها المقاومة الاسلامية، مشيرا الى ان طائرة الاستطلاع هي من صنع ايراني ومن تجميع متخصصين في المقاومة الاسلامية وهذا فخر للبنانيين، وقال في كلمة له “أن الحديث اليوم هو اعلان تبني ومسؤولية عن هذه العملية النوعية”، واكد سماحته ان الانجاز في هذه العملية ان تسير الطائرة كل هذه المسافة وتخترق الاجراءات وتسير مئات الكيلومترات في منطقة يفترض أنها مليئة بالرادارات، مشيرا إلى ان بعض الصهاينة تحدثوا عن فشل موضعي وعن تصدع في مكان ما واعتبروا أن الفخر بأن المجال الجوي الصهيوني غير مخترق تصدع الآن
politics aside, this is very serious,at least in the eyes of Israelis,it is now possible that an unmanned drone penetrates deep inside Israel and bombs specific targets.there was one unconfirmed story about drones being used in Homs, the scary part,to those who are used to dominating the skies,is that drones are plentiful and cheap to make.

October 11th, 2012, 4:34 pm

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

No one Syrian can be so manically excited about humiliating 35 SYRIAN passengers , taking them down as if they were animals , keeping them 5.5 hours
Inside the plane for no reason,hitting them , claiming to have found weapons
In this kind of plane is stupid. SYRIANS don’t get excited when fellow citizens are
Humiliated, claiming that this was humiliation to (batta) makes you habola,this is
Humiliation to every Syrian who has Syrian blood.

October 11th, 2012, 4:43 pm

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

A Wahhabi revolutionists gives his 2 cents about
The true natur of his criminal revolution :

October 11th, 2012, 5:00 pm

 

ann said:

Islamist in Mali buys child soldiers – Thursday, 11 October 2012

Senior UN official report that Islamists rebels who have held part of Mali are increasing money from ransoms and drug trafficking as they are imposing Sharia law.

http://www.afrik-news.com/article19367.html

After a fact-finding visit to the country, Ivan Simonovic says the Islamic rebels are also buying child soldiers. They are paying $600 (£375) per child to the families. The UN Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights Ivan Simonovic also highlighted on the human rights abuses there where women’s rights are mostly limited. He made mention of the collection of an alarming list of unmarried women who were pregnant or had bear children. More of these women were being forced into marriage and sold at a price of less than $1,000 as a wife .

Other women were then being resold in a disguise way for forceful prostitution. Simonovic told reporters at UN headquarters in New York that Human rights violations are becoming more regular and that Islamists had also imposed a radical version of the Sharia. Information gotten from people travelling to and from northern Mali, where he said Islamists were imposing harsher punishments for crimes by the fact-finding mission say so far there had been three public executions, eight amputations and two floggings .

Mr Simonovic also added that there have been allegations of torture and inhuman prison conditions in southern Mali, where the government retains control.He urged authorities to investigate these cases if they expected UN help as Mali’s army tries to reclaim the north. A BBC’s report says the 15-member Security Council is giving the impression to be prepared in sponsoring an international intervention force in the country; under the right conditions. They would still have to pass a second resolution to green light the deployment and the resolution is not expected until late November at the earliest. The council members are deeply concerned about al-Qaeda linked extremists taking advantage of the chaos in northern Mali.

[…]

http://www.afrik-news.com/article19367.html

October 11th, 2012, 5:02 pm

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

Erdogan(the grandson of خازوق inventor and the nephew of 1.5 million Armenians killers) claims that Syrians are أمانه في رقبته while he is exporting all kind of lethat weapons to kill Syrians and while
He brings civilian airplane down looking for weapons ….what a خسيس

October 11th, 2012, 5:14 pm

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

Compare this to FSA criminals today leaded by the
Porn sex leader Abdulrazak Tlass,the Turkish
General Riad Alassad , the beheading brigade
And the meat grinders inventor bro Alaaroor :

October 11th, 2012, 5:26 pm

 

ann said:

93. Syria no Kandahar said:

Erdogan (the grandson of ..

His father was a shoe shine man, who used to wipe him with his belt ..

October 11th, 2012, 5:31 pm

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

It is the Syrian army against Alqaida…who are you with?
See these terrorists fighting under Alqaida flag in Aleppo today:

October 11th, 2012, 5:41 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

♕ The 47th ♕ ‏@THE_47th

Expect major blows to Assad Army next week.

Western journalists: if you have been given a pass through the the Syrian Gov, please leave the country at once.

http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/%e2%99%95-the-47th-%e2%99%95-%e2%80%8fthe-47th-western-journalists/

October 11th, 2012, 5:48 pm

 

Warren said:

Christian Syrian soldier joins the FSA and converts to Islam. This is the future VAT, SL & SOD are praying for!

October 11th, 2012, 5:50 pm

 

Syrialover said:

SYRIA NO KANDAHAR, bursts a boiler in #90 saying:

“keeping them 5.5 hours Inside the plane for no reason…this is
Humiliation to every Syrian who has Syrian blood.”

For God’s sake, stop making a stupid joke out of everything that Syrians are suffering.

The millions now without their livelihood, hundreds of thousands homeless and beggars, and tens of thousands of innocent people randomly killed. The word “Syria” now associated always with terror, violence, massacres and mass destruction under the Assad regime.

An UNPRECEDENTED HUMILIATION and attempted destruction of a proud people and wonderful country.

If you have even a teaspoon of Syrian blood, where’s your outrage and campaign against THAT humiliation?

We’re waiting for it.

October 11th, 2012, 5:56 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

The blessed month of Hajj is approaching in a few days. The first 10 days of the month are even more virtuous than the last 10 nights of Ramadan. An opportunity for Syrians and their supporters around the world to pray for Divine help and victory.

According to the Prophet, Sallalahu Alaihi Wa Salam , who said, “There is no day more honorable in Allah’s sight and no acts more beloved therein to Allah than those in these ten days (of Dhul-Hijjah )”

October 11th, 2012, 6:00 pm

 

zoo said:

Is Miss Piggy on the way to the garage?

Hillary’s sinking ship

By Arthur Herman
Published October 11, 2012

Two and a half weeks ago I wrote a column for Fox News Opinion calling on Hillary Clinton to quit as Secretary of State. As more information comes out about what really led to ambassador Chris Stevens’s death on September 11, we’re hearing growing murmurs demanding the same thing. It’s not a full-throated chorus yet. But yesterday’s hearings in front of the House Government Oversight Committee are encouraging others to join in.

They certainly confirm three damning facts about our Secretary of State.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/11/hillary-sinking-ship/#ixzz2922DZczx

October 11th, 2012, 6:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Hezbollah admits launching drone over Israel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19914441

The leader of Lebanese Shia militant movement Hezbollah has said that his group was behind the launch of a drone shot down over Israel last week.

Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah told the movement’s al-Manar television network that the drone was made in Iran and had flown over “sensitive sites” in Israel.

Israeli fighter planes shot down the drone north of the Negev desert after it entered from the Mediterranean.

Israel’s prime minister has again vowed to defend the country’s borders.

Sheikh Nasrallah said the drone was assembled in Lebanon but made in Iran – a rare reference to his organisation’s military support from Tehran, the BBC’s Jon Leyne in Cairo says.
‘Aerial capacity’

Sheikh Nasrallah said: “A sophisticated reconnaissance aircraft was sent from Lebanese territory… and travelled hundreds of kilometres over the sea before crossing enemy lines and into occupied Palestine.”

Correspondents say Sheikh Nasrallah’s mention of “sensitive” Israeli sites is an apparent reference to Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor.

“Possession of such an aerial capacity is a first in the history of any resistance movement in Lebanon and the region,” he said.

October 11th, 2012, 6:30 pm

 

zoo said:

#88 Tara

I suggest you send an email to Erdogan to shut up and act, and another to HBJ to ask him why he is dumping the armed rebels and trying to resuscitate the comatose SNC instead by announcing yet another “unification” meeting to cancel it a few days before it was planned..

Everybody agrees that the solution is military unless the opposition accept an unconditional dialog with the regime.

October 11th, 2012, 6:35 pm

 

Tara said:

I trust HBJ.  I do not trust the Saudis.    

• The foreign supply of weapons to the Free Syrian Army is drying up because of regional anxiety about arms proliferation, US nervousness about funding jihadis ahead of the US presidential election, and divisions between the rebels’ main backers Qatar and Saudi Arabia, Martin Chulov and Ian Black report. One well placed source said: “The Qataris are much more proactive than the Saudis. The Saudis are not interested in democracy, they just want to be rid of Bashar. They would be happy with a Yemeni solution that gets rid of the president and leaves the regime intact.” Mustafa Alani of the Saudi-financed Gulf Research Centre in Abu Dhabi, added: “The Saudis fear that there will be blowback from Syria like there was from Iraq and Afghanistan. They don’t want chaos. They want the Syrian military to take over. The whole region wants that, including the Israelis. Everyone wants an organised structure of army officers who will keep weapons under control and make sure that they are handed in.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/10/arms-supplies-syrian-rebels-rivalries

Another growing problem is a lack of co-ordination between Qatar and the Saudis – the likely subject of Wednesday’s talks in Doha between the Emir and the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar. King Abdullah is said to be growing impatient with the difficulties of the Syrian crisis. According to Syrian opposition activists, the Saudis now sponsor only rebel groups which are at odds with those backed by Qatar and Turkey, which are often linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.

October 11th, 2012, 6:40 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo

Email to HBJ? May be? I met once few years ago in Minnesota some close contact of Moza who kept trying to convince me to relocate to Qatar to work directly for her. May be I should’ve accepted that job offer then

October 11th, 2012, 6:45 pm

 

zoo said:

Turkey: Public Support Low for Possible Fight Against Syria
October 10, 2012
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/66033

“Most Turks consider Turkish intervention as such a quagmire like Iraq was for the United States,” cautioned Semih İdiz, a foreign-affairs columnist for the daily Milliyet. “There would be no public support.”

Despite daily news broadcasts showing the latest horrific pictures from Syria, opposition to Turkish armed action, until now, has been largely passive.

In a survey carried out in late August by the Ankara-based Institute of Strategic Thinking, a policy think-tank, only 18 percent of 2,200 respondents supported the government’s policy on Syria, down from 33 percent in a similar poll in July.

Ankara blames the resurgence in fighting in Damascus on arming the militants, a policy it has used in the past. “Turkey is engaging in a proxy war with Syria through its support for Syrian rebels,” asserted Soli Özel a professor of international relations at Istanbul’s Kadir Has University. “It can’t complain too much if its neighbor retaliates.”
….
But with the prospect of war looming, questions, nonetheless, are growing about Turkey’s preparedness. Hundreds of its senior officers are languishing in jail convicted of conspiracy against the government or awaiting trial on such charges. “There is no political unity within the country,” warned Solmazturk, the retired general. “[T]his could be the worst set of conditions for going to war with Syria.”

October 11th, 2012, 6:45 pm

 

zoo said:

@105 Tara

Imagine, you could have seen your idols daily…

October 11th, 2012, 6:50 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo

No, Not true. It is someone in the north.

October 11th, 2012, 7:05 pm

 

zoo said:

#104 Tara

That’s what I always said. The Saudi and the UAE hate the Moslem Brotherhood who are promoted by Turkey, Qatar and Egypt.
After realizing the opposition debacle, they want Syria to return to act as a bridge with Iran that they fear more than they fear Israel. They much prefer Bashar Al Assad to any of these puppets hanging in hotels in Doha, Istanbul or Paris
I wouldn’t not be surprised if we learn that the Saudis are now helping economically both parties of the conflict in Syria, just to make sure they are on the right side whatever the result of the crisis is.

KSA is tapping on the back of the rebels, waiting that they be crushed by the Syrian army while Qatar is scrambling to unite the polluted and inept opposition that the exhausted and disappointed Erdogan has decided to dump.

October 11th, 2012, 7:05 pm

 

Tara said:

Hezbollah role in Syria grows more evident
October 12, 2012 01:14 AM
By Nicholas Blanford
The Daily Star

In a eulogy for Nassif, Sheikh Mohammad Yazbek, a member of Hezbollah’s Shura Council, said that the veteran commander was “martyred among the Lebanese while defending those who were abandoned by their government.” The vague phrase has been interpreted as referring to Lebanese Shiites who populate several villages on the Syrian side of the border adjacent to the northern Bekaa who allegedly have been under threat from neighboring Sunnis and FSA fighters.

,,,,
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Oct-12/191121-hezbollah-role-in-syria-grows-more-evident.ashx#axzz292IgYV4I

October 11th, 2012, 7:35 pm

 

Syrialover said:

It’s OK ZOO, we can all read and have our own sources on UAE, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc – even in some instances better than you.

Instead, what we want from YOU is your inside track informed analyses and news on Bashar Assad.

Including the latest on Bashar’s aides and advisers from Iran & Russia that have taken over the seats and desks of his home-grown Syrian staff.

Once again, be fair and please share.

October 11th, 2012, 7:42 pm

 

Ghufran said:

coming from Feltman, this is significant:
أكد مدير دائرة الشؤون السياسية بالأمم المتحدة، “جيفري فيلتمان” أن تسليح بعض الدول للمعارضة السورية يمنع التوصل إلى أي حل سياسي يوقف العنف في سوريا.
 وفي مقابلة خاصة مع “سكاي نيوز عربية” في نيويورك، شدد فيلتمان علن أن الأولوية في الوقت الراهن هي لوقف العنف عبر تقديم حل سياسي تثق به كافة الأطراف في سوريا.
وقال إن المبعوث الخاص إلى سوريا، الأخضر الإبراهيمي، يتواصل مع كافة الأطراف المعنية بالأزمة السورية قبل وضع خطة محددة ترسم أفقا سياسيا جديدا في البلاد.

October 11th, 2012, 7:43 pm

 
 

Syrialover said:

ZOO, here’s a starting point for your special revelations.

You said: “Everybody agrees that the solution is military unless the opposition accept an unconditional dialog with the regime.”(#103)

So tell us urgently, the world needs to know, more about the nature of this “unconditional dialogue” as decided inside the Assad-foreign adviser camp.

Dialogue, you said, not monologue.

Don’t jerk us around and tantalise us. We need more information.

October 11th, 2012, 7:53 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Tony Karon- The Time
(we have been saying this for months)
As bad as things may be, President Bashar al-Assad and his entourage — and those who are willing to fight and die to keep in power — know that for them, things could be a whole lot worse. Sure, the regime has lost control of vast swathes of territory that appear to be intractably under the control of insurgents. But if the rebels are able to control much of the countryside, they remain hopelessly outgunned in the head-to-head fight for the major cities, with no sign of any heavy weapons deliveries from their allies abroad, much less a NATO cavalry riding to the rescue as it had done in Libya. The rebels continue to be plagued by divisions, and Western powers are increasingly anxious over the influence of salafist extremists within the armed insurgency
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/10/11/is-the-glass-half-full-for-syrias-assad/#ixzz292NwfHQ2
(foreign jihadists , regime thugs and Qatar are the biggest obstacles to a cease fire, everybody else is willing to talk but most are waiting for the white smoke from the US)

October 11th, 2012, 7:53 pm

 

zoo said:

SL

Can you stop addressing me and harassing me. I am not interested to communicate with you. I hoped you understood, but it seems I have to spell it out clearly.
Get yourself other informants, there are plenty here with inside links with Al Arabya, Al Jazeera and Yallasouria, they certainly can answer you endless list of questions to your satisfaction.

October 11th, 2012, 8:02 pm

 

Ghufran said:

عريب الرنتاوي
“الترحيب الذي قوبل به المقترح التركي بتولي نائب الرئيس فاروق الشرع إدارة مرحلة الانتقال في سوريا، من قبل أطراف واسعة في المعارضة المسلحة وبعض داعميها الإقليميين والدوليين، يعكس على ما يبدو، وصول هذه الأطراف إلى ما يشبه اليأس من إمكانية تغيير النظام، وجنوح بعضها للعمل بنظرية “ما لا يُدرك كله…لا يُترك جُله”، فيما بعضها الآخر، سيجادل في جدوى تقديم ثلاثين ألف شهيد من إجل استبدال الشرع الرئيس بنائبه؟!”
( you may not know where this piece was published: alarabiya)

October 11th, 2012, 8:11 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I may be naive but I find it hard to believe that a freedom fighter or any honorable Syrian will detonate a car bomb in an area full of businesses and civilians.
This is from almundassah:
ان استخدام اسلوب السيارات المفخخة لمهاجمة وتدمير مواقع وحواجز النظام  يعد من أسوء الوسائل التي يمكن استخدامها في المواجهات لأنها كقذائف النظام لا تميز بين مدني وعسكري..
يجب الامتناع عن استخدام هذا الاسلوب في مهاجمة مواقع النظام وخاصة المتواجدة بين المناطق السكنية أو الحواجز التي تكون في الطرقات العامة ويكثر فيها تواجد المدنيين , الا اذا كان الموقع المستهدف عسكري بشكل كامل وداخل منطقة عسكرية يستحيل تواجد مدنيين أو سجناء أو أسرى في داخله وهذا الموضوع شبه مستحيل حاليا وذلك لتحول غالبية القطع العسكرية لمراكز اعتقال أو لوجود هذه القطع بالقرب من المناطق السكنية….
ولكن الأسوء على الاطلاق والذي لا يمكن تبريره ولا بأي شكل منطقي هو استخدام سيارات الاسعاف أو الطوارئ لتنفيذ هكذا أعمال لأن استخدامها يعطي الحجج والذرائع للنظام لاستهداف هذه السيارات وبالتالي سينعكس ذلك على المدنيين بشكل مباشر,
نرجو من الجيش الحر و كل ثائر وطني أن يبتعد عن هذا الاسلوب من التفجيرات التي لا تميز بين بريء ومذنب لأن اي مدني يسقط نتيجة هذه التفجيرات يعد ذلك جريمة جنائية وأخلاقية يتحمل منفذها ومن خطط وجهز لذلك تبعات ووزر هذه الأعمال أمام الله والمجتمع ويجب أن يصنف هذا العمل ومنفذه في خانة استهداف المدنيين دون وجه حق وبشكل مساوي لتنديدنا لأفعال النظام التي جعلتنا نطلق عليه لقب القاتل والسفاح نتيجة لأفعاله اتجاه المدنيين اذا لا أعتقد أنه يوجد فرق كبير بين استخدام اسم الله أو اسم من هو سواه عند تنفيذ هذه التفجيرات اذا كان الضحية أولا وأخيرا هو هذا الشخص البريء الذي تصادف وجوده في مكان الانفجار ساعة تنفيذه, ان ما يضفي شرعية على هذا العمل ليس هوية المستهدِف انما هوية الهدف و نتائج العمل وبالتالي استهداف المناطق التي يرجح تواجد مدنيين فيها لا يعد مجرد قتلا بالخطأ انما هو قتل متعمد ويالتالي يتحمل المنفذ جريرة أعماله أمام القانون المحلي والدولي على حد سواء,يفضل عند استهداف الثكنات والمواقع التي يمكن أن يكون فيها معتقلين استخدام الأسلحة الخفيفة واقتحام هذه المواقع بشكل مدروس يجنب المحتجزين أي سوء…والله أعلم

October 11th, 2012, 8:33 pm

 

Tara said:

I wish Bashar and Asma a fate similar to the fate they made hundreds of thousands of people endure.    

October 11th, 2012, 8:45 pm

 

zoo said:

Ghufran

If this is what Feltman said, it is a total flip. That’s probably why the long waited opposition ‘unification’ in Doha was postponed to a undecided date in November.
Qatar is maybe waiting to clarify the USA position before and after the election so the decisions eventually taken in Doha do not go against the USA’s.
The idea of a dialog without the condition that Bashar al Assad resigns is making its way. Will the opposition obliged to swallow their pride and obey their fund providers?

October 11th, 2012, 8:49 pm

 

zoo said:

Football clubs are used by Islamists to recruit members. Jihadists settled in Syria played a significant in the recruitment of UK terrorists.

Player’s arrest spotlights sports as a tool of jihadist recruitment

Thursday,October 11 2012,
James M. Dorsey ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/players-arrest-spotlights-sports-as-a-tool-of-jihadist-recruitment.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32192&NewsCatID=364

Former Portsmouth player Yann Nsaku is among 11 persons arrested in coordinated raids in France, highlighting how jihadists use football as a recruitment pool.

This week’s arrest in France of a former Portsmouth FC youth center-back on suspicion of being a violent jihadist highlights opportunities the beautiful game offers militant Islamists.
….
Several of the arrested young men were believed to have recently travelled to Syria to contact radical jihadists fighting the regime of embattled President Bashar al-Assad.

October 11th, 2012, 9:02 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, Most High.

Our noble heroes of the Free Syrian Army are making decisive gains while the thugs of the criminal terrorist regime suffered heavy casualties securely transported to lowest hell,

http://www.nowlebanon.com/Arabic/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=445543

October 11th, 2012, 9:11 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO (#116),

You are astonishing.

You are addressing ME and everybody else on SC with a constant flood of stuff.

You’ve come on field playing in a tough match here.

You demand an audience in an open forum, expecting time, attention and a lot of space that others have equal right to occupy.

Other long-term readers I know have felt so harassed and fed up with the pro-Assad cut-paste domination and distractionism in this forum they can no longer be bothered participating.

But I respond to you and comment on what you are laying out here.

And I notice all the time you write as if have inside knowledge of the Assad regime’s perspective.

If being called on that makes you feel harassed, hurrah, a glimmer of dialogue, not this endless unchallenged monologue!

And no, I don’t have other informants with the particular knowledge you hint at which is why I have been asking you.

October 11th, 2012, 9:23 pm

 

zoo said:

The Salafists funded by Qatar and KSA:
A Shadow State in Lebanon for the Syrian Opposition

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/shadow-state-lebanon-syrian-opposition


Security sources have revealed that Imams and Islamic educators in Tripoli and Akkar in North Lebanon and Beirut have been recently informed by head of Tripoli’s Islamic Endowments Department Sheikh Houssam Sbat of Qatar’s decision “to pay their salaries on a monthly basis, for life.”

Qatar also funds the Salafi-leaning radio station Tariq al-Irtiqaa (The Path to Ascension) in Tripoli, which is run by Sheikh Khalid Zarour, as part of the Gulf emirate’s efforts to extend its influence in North Lebanon.

Other security sources in North Lebanon revealed that there are four to six groups closely affiliated with a prominent Salafi cleric operating in the area. Al-Akhbar sought to contact the cleric, but he did not respond to interview requests. Fighters are also present in the northeast and the Bekaa, especially in the regions of Ersal and its surrounding hills, and in Masharih al-Qaa.

An unprecedented level of militia activity has also been observed in the central Bekaa, specifically in Bar Elias, Qab Elias and Fourzol, which is considered the primary logistical hub for arms procurement.
Although there are many such reports about Arab money coming in, there seem to be several unknown hurdles preventing this cash from reaching the Syrian opposition fighters. This has prompted several Salafi clerics, who have otherwise distanced themselves from arms smuggling, to chip in from their own pockets to provide shelter to Syrian refugees in the North, either in their own private homes or elsewhere.

October 11th, 2012, 9:28 pm

 

Syrain said:

Some commentators are so obsessed with the khazooq one would think they have felt one all the way up into their brains .
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/world/1626803?preferredArticleViewMode=single
Turkey defends intercepting Syrian plane.
In a statement Thursday, the Foreign Ministry in Ankara said the pilot of the Syrian Air Airbus A320, on a scheduled flight from Moscow, had been warned of Turkey’s intention to ground it as he approached from the Black Sea on Wednesday evening. It said he was given the chance to turn back, but that he decided to continue his course.
…….
Rejecting claims that passengers were ill-treated, the Turkish statement said they were allowed to leave the plane if they wanted and that there was a health crew and ambulances on standby. It also said that the pilot did not provide a passenger list and therefore Turkish officials did not know there were Russians on board until after it landed.

October 11th, 2012, 9:40 pm

 

zoo said:

SL

This is a free and public blog and I don’t think we need bullies.

I will continue posting what I want, when I want and with the frequency I choose. If you don’t like it, that’s your problem but please be polite, keep your personal frustration and whining to yourself.

October 11th, 2012, 9:41 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrain

There will be as many versions of that story as the Turkish military shot down story. We are still having new versions popping up weeks after it happened.

The award for the most laughable version goes to the Al Arabya who “proved” that the Turkish pilots were rescued by the Syrians, tortured and dumped in the sea.

Let’s hear Al Arabya’s version of the cargo seized by Turkey.

October 11th, 2012, 9:57 pm

 

zoo said:

Erdogan’s credibility at stake

Syria says Turkey must display confiscated gears to prove its claims

2012-10-12
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-10/12/c_123812293.htm

DAMASCUS, Oct. 11 (Xinhua) — Syrian Information Ministry on Thursday rejected Turkish claims that the Syrian commercial plane grounded forcefully in Turkey was carrying ammunition, challenging Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to display the confiscated gears to prove the claims.

In a statement carried by the state TV, the ministry said the Syrian commercial plane was not carrying any ammunition or military gears, adding that Erdogan’s remarks “lack credibility.”

“He (Erdogan) must display those gears to prove his claims at least for his people,” the ministry said.

October 11th, 2012, 10:02 pm

 

Syrian said:

127 ;Zoo
There are huge differences between the two. The downd Turkish planes took weeks to find and examine the wreckage, in the 2nd one everyone is alive there has to be communication records between the pilot and the towers, plus the Russian passengers
In an advanced democratic state with free press and viable opposition the goverment can not make up stories to cover their faults
And as you said it was Alarabia who made up the wild story about the Turkish plane not the Turkish gov.

October 11th, 2012, 10:18 pm

 

Syrian said:

Zoo
Notice the wording of the syrain government ” ammunition”
Turkey did not say that but I believe they said military communications gear and missile parts.

October 11th, 2012, 10:28 pm

 

zoo said:

#129 Syrain

So let’s see if the Turks will release the original log of communication and if they will show to the international media the ‘military’ items they claimed they found.

In my opinion, again, by its misjudgment Turkey has put itself in a awkward situation. They were “tipped off” that there were weapons in the plane and they naively thought they’ll make a scoop by uncovering Syria-Turkey traffic of weapons and humiliate Syria. Now, in the absence of weapons, they are scrambling for a face saving. They will probably try to dilute the story by giving vague and contradictory declarations until it is forgotten.

October 11th, 2012, 10:29 pm

 

zoo said:

#130 Syrain

Turkish PM says intercepted Syrian plane carrying ammunition

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/10/11/turkey-syria-plane.html

That’s what I mean by Turkey contradictory declarations to manipulate the event to their advantage.

October 11th, 2012, 10:33 pm

 

Syrian said:

At any case no matter what the truth is,it wil be spun by every one and become Colbert truthiness
“Truthiness is what you want the facts to be, as opposed to what the facts are. What feels like the right answer as opposed to what reality will support.”

October 11th, 2012, 10:56 pm

 

Observer said:

It is not what the plane is carrying. It is the fact that it was forced to land and to be searched that has sent Lavrov into a tailspin and the the regime in Damascus in a frenzy.

It means that Turkey is wiling to take action and that it has the backing of NATO.

By the way ZOO they found Vodka from Russia and Makdous from Syria on the plane.

Who cares.

October 11th, 2012, 11:29 pm

 

Syrialover said:

A comment on the Syrian issue in the American election campaign:

Excerpt:

“Of all the political tumult that has roiled the Arab world since early 2001, Syria has emerged as the most violent and diplomatically challenging for the Obama administration.

“There is a difference on how to engage the Syrian crisis beyond tone or semantics between the Romney-Ryan and Obama-Biden campaigns – and the Republicans have sought to make the difference one that speaks to strength of leadership.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/11/the-question-of-syria/

October 11th, 2012, 11:40 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, the Most High.

More accomplishments by our most courageous, most noble and most valiant heroes of the Free Syrian Army of the revolution,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/a9307c4e-c1c1-426b-b396-00daf4fb4fd1?GoogleStatID=9

The criminal terrorist thugs of the Nazi-like descendants of Mongolian rejects occupying Damascus are faced with the futility of their criminality in their foolish quest to subject the honorable people of Syria to submit to the evil plots of the idiot agent of Satan and his idiot worshipers.

October 12th, 2012, 12:16 am

 

Ghufran said:

أعلنت اليونان، يوم الخميس، عن التخطيط لإيواء 20 ألف لاجئ سوري على جزيرتين يونانيتين، وذلك في “إطار التزاماتها في ملف حقوق الإنسان عملا بشريعة الأمم المتحدة”
وذكرت وسائل إعلام أن وزارة النظام العام اليونانية قالت في بيان إن “الحكومة اليونانية تسعى إلى استضافة 20 ألف لاجئ سوري سيتم إيواؤهم في منشآت خاصة على جزيرتي كريت ورودس، وذلك في خطوة تندرج في إطار التزاماتها في ملف حقوق الإنسان عملا بشريعة الأمم المتحدة”.
وأضاف البيان أن “العملية التي أطلق عليها ايوني على اسم المستعمرة اليونانية التاريخية الأولى في سوريا تقضي بإيواء اللاجئين في “مراكز خاصة في جزيرتي كريت ورودس في بحر ايجة”.
history will not be kind to a regime that instead of protecting its people it was instrumental in forcing millions of syrians to seek refuge away from home anywhere they can,even on an island in Greece..

October 12th, 2012, 12:25 am

 

Syrialover said:

I’m angry and disgusted at all the hypocritical theatrical outrage about Turkey putting 35 civilians at risk in grounding that aircraft.

Yeah, it’s awful. Gee, nearly as bad as Assad putting a thousands of civilians through terrifying risk daily from bombardment by his military mafia, which he is now “personally directing”.

And the callous, calculated risk he’s taken of having Syria left in rubble with millions of civilians desperate for food, water, heat and medicine.

Risk? It’s already happened! The risk is that it’s continuing and won’t stop.

How about some theatrical outrage about that?

October 12th, 2012, 1:00 am

 

Syrialover said:

GHUFRAN,

You’ve said it. Now if only you will keep saying it:

“history will not be kind to a regime that instead of protecting its people it was instrumental in forcing millions of syrians to seek refuge away from home” (#137)

October 12th, 2012, 1:17 am

 

SYR.EXPAT said:

‫حكم عمليات تفجير السيارات الاستشهادية

الشيخ محمد أبو الهدى اليعقوبي
http://www.facebook.com/ShaykhMuhammadAbulhudaAlYaqoubi

الحمد لله وما النصر إلا من عند الله، أما بعد
فقد ورد إلي سؤال حول حكم العمليات الاستشهادية التي يقوم بها بعض الشباب في سورية من خلال تفجير أنفسهم بالسيارات الملغومة التي أخفيت فيها المتفجرات، ما حكم الشرع فيها، هل تجوز؟

وجوابا على ذلك أقول:
الأصل أن قتل الإنسان نفسه لا يجوز في الإسلام، ولكن تضحية الإنسان بنفسه لإنقاذ حياة ألف بغلبة الظن مباح بل قد يصل الحكم فيه إلى الوجوب الكفائي. وأن يخاطر إنسان بنفسه لقتل واحد من أكابر المجرمين مثل بشار الأسد نفسه مثلا فهذا الحكم فيه الجواز عندنا قطعا لما فيه من المصالح العظيمة التي تفوق مفسدة قتل الإنسان نفسه، إذ بقتل واحد ينسد باب الفتنة وينقطع الإجرام ويسقط النظام. والإباحة أدنى الرتب، بل إننا نقول بالواجب كفاية، أي يجب على الأمة أن ينهض منها واحد يضحي بنفسه لإنقاذ الشعب في سورية، فإن لم تفعل أثم من كانت عنده الأهلية والاستعداد وتهيأت له الظروف وقصر في ذلك.

وصف العمليات (الاستشهادية – كما تسمى) التي تجري الآن وورد السؤال عنها: هي عمليات توضع فيها المتفجرات شديدة الانفجار بكميات كبيرة ويقود السيارة شاب إلى مكان مجاور لأحد المقرات العسكرية أو مراكز المخابرات وقد يستطيع الوصول إلى فناء المبنى وقد لا يستطيع، وعندما يرى نفسه في أقرب مكان يضغط على زر التفجير فتنفجر السيارة بما فيها ويموت هو ومن حوله.

حكم هذه العمليات:
لم أر في هذه العمليات (الاستشهادية) هذه الثمرات التي يمكن من أجلها أن نفتي بجواز قتل الإنسان نفسه، بل لم أر فيها إلا قتلا للنفس وتضييعا للحياة وتضحية بنفيس من أجل هدف رخيص لا يستحق ذلك.
وقد رأينا هذه العمليات وتتبعنا أخبارها عموما في سورية ووجدنا أنها لم تحقق الأثر المطلوب ، وأنا أفتي بأنها لا تجوز وأنها حرام شرعا ومن يموت فيها غالبا هم من الأبرياء أو من العوام من المجندين والحراس ووالزوار من المراجعين. وأنا أحذر الثوار من القيام بهذه العمليات وأحذر قادة الكتائب من التغرير بالشباب وإرسالهم للقيام بهذه المهام. نحن نحب أن يبيع الإنسان نفسه لله ونشجع على ذلك ولكن هذا ليس بيعا للنفس لله وإنما هو إلقاء للنفس في دركات جهنم من خلال قتل النفس وقتل عدد من صغار المجرمين وقتل الكثير من الأبرياء.

وأحب أن أنقل هنا كلاما للإمام محمد بن الحسن الشيباني نقله القرطبي في التفسير، يقول: “لو حمل رجل واحد على ألف رجل من المشركين، وهو وحده لم يكن بذلك بأس إذا كان يطمع في نجاة، أو نكاية في العدو، فإن لم يكن كذلك فهو مكروه، لأنه عرض نفسه للتلف في غير منفعة المسلمين، فمن كان قصده تجرئة المسلمين عليهم حتى يصنعوا مثل صنيعه فلا يبعد جوازه، ولأن فيه منفعة للمسلمين على بعض الوجوه، وإن كان قصده إرهاب العدو، وليعلم صلابة المسلمين في الدين فلا يبعد جوازه، وإذا كان فيه نفع للمسلمين فتلفت نفسه لإعزاز الدين وتوهين الكفر، فهو المقام الشريف الذي مدح الله تعالى المؤمنين بقوله: (إن الله اشترى..إلى قوله.. بأن لهم الجنة) إلى غيرها من آيات المدح التي مدح الله بها من بذل نفسه.”
فانظر كيف قيد الإمام محمد رحمه الله جواز حمل الواحد على الألف بعدد من القيود هي:
أن يطمع في النجاة
أن يفعل ذلك نكاية بالعدو
تجرئة المسلمين ليفعلوا مثله (أي بالهجوم على العدو فينجو هو وهم معا)
قصد إرهاب العدو
لإعلام العدو بصلابة المسلمين
هذا مع أن الكلام هنا في رجل يخاطر بنفسه فيُقتل بيد العدو، ولا يباشر هو قتل نفسه.

وقد بنيت حكم التحريم لهذه العمليات على وجوه متعددة ترجع إلى المقاصد الكبرى في الإسلام والقواعد الشرعية العامة في الفقه، ومن ذلك أن الأصل تحريم قتل النفس،
وأن الضرورات تبيح المحظورات،
وأن الضرورة تقدر بقدرها،
وأنه لا ضرر لا ضرار،
وأن درء المفاسد مقدم على جلب المصالح،
وإذا تعارضت مفسدتان روعي أعظمهما ضررا بارتكاب أخفهما،
وأن اليقين لا يزول بالشك، وأن غلبة الظن تُنزّل منزلة اليقين،
وأن الاحتياط في الدماء واجب، وأن الخطأ في الترك والعفو أهون من الخطأ في القتل.

ومع هذا الحكم بالتحريم في هذا النوع من العمليات خاصة، فإني أعتبر من مات في هذه العمليات شهيدا مراعاة لقصده أولا وهو إعزاز الدين ونصرة المستضعفين، ومراعاة لجانب أنه ما أقدم على على ذلك إلا بفتوى عالم، وخطأ العالم لا يحمل المستفتي وزره إن تحرى، فالشهيد معذور والمفتي بالإباحة غير معذور.

وألخص هذه الأسباب والوجوه الداعية إلى القول بالتحريم في ثمانية. وهي كما ترى ليست أدلة على تحريم العمليات الاستشهادية عموما، وإنما وجوه يقود النظر فيها واعتبارها إلى القول بحرمة هذا النوع الذي ورد السؤال عنه:

الأول: القتل العشوائي حيث لا نعرف تحديدا من سيموت في هذا التفجير بل يغلب على الظن موت الأبرياء ومن لم يقصد بالعملية وموت من لا ناقة له ولا جمل من الحراس المجندين تجنيدا إجباريا. وهذا مخالف لمبادئ الإسلام وأصول الأخلاق إذ لا يؤخذ البريئ بجريرة المذنب قال الله تعالى في قصة سيدنا يوسف عليه السلام: {قال معاذ الله أن نأخذ إلا من وجدنا متاعنا عنده إنا إذا لظالمون}. وينبغي أن نقر بأن الأغلبية الغالبة من المجندين هم منا أي من عامة الشعب وهم مسوقون بالإكراه والإجبار لا يجدون للفرار حيلة ولا يستطيعون سبيلا. هذا هو الظلم بعينه ولا يفيد في هذا المجال أن نقول الأغلب مجرمون لأن إنقاذ نفس بريئة في الإسلام خير من قتل ألف مجرم، والإسلام ديننا وعلى مبادئ الإسلام في العدل والرحمة قامت حضارتنا.

الثاني: ما يؤدي إليه موت هؤلاء الأبرياء من إضرار بالثورة حيث تقف عائلات هؤلاء الأبرياء والعشائر التي ينتمون إليها ضد الثورة. ولا يجوز أن نقلل من تأثير ذلك داخل البلد على مجريات الأحداث، وللصامتين والمعارضين للثورة أسباب، وهذه العمليات من أهم تلك الأسباب التي تدفع بالناس لمعارضة الثورة.

الثالث: أن نفس المؤمن نفيسة لا تراق لمثل هذه الأهداف، إذ النتائج قليلة الثمرات. والأصل حرمة قتل الإنسان نفسه بل هو كبيرة من الكبائر، ولذلك لا يباح في الإسلام إلا في أقصى حالات الضرورة كما قدمنا في المخاطرة بقتل مجرم من الكبار لإنقاذ حياة الناس.

الرابع: مراعاة الخلاف مع من ذهب إلى تحريم العمليات الاستشهادية إجمالا وعموما. ونحن لا نقول بعموم التحريم (ولذلك لم نسق أدلة من قال بالتحريم وهيي غير هذه الأدلة) وإنما نقول بالجواز المقيد بالنظر في كل صورة. ومراعاة الخلاف أصل عندنا وعند الأئمة يستدل به وتبنى الأحكام عليه. ومجرد الخلاف في المسألة يوجب الحذر في الإفتاء. ونحن هنا نفتي في حالة خاصة هي ثورة الشعب في سورية وبلد خاص هو سورية ولا نفتي في شأن بلد آخر أو حالة أخرى.

الخامس: أن مثل هذا المجاهد إن تدرب جيدا ليعمل قناصا أو في فريق اغتيالات بدل تدريبه على الاستشهاد يكون دوره أحسن ونتائج عمله أكبر، ولا يجوز لنا أن نترك الطريق الأعلى ونسلك السبيل الأدنى بعدا عن المشاق، وهذا الكلام موجه للمدربين والضباط الذين يحضرون الشباب لمثل هذه العمليات، إنهم يختارونها لأنها أهون وأسهل إذ لا تتطلب الكثير من التدريب. ونحن نقول يجب أن نسلك السبيل الأعلى وهو التدريب الجيد على القتال لأن الواحد في المعركة قد يفعل فعل ألف في الدفاع عن البلد، وقد يقوم عشرة أفراد من المشاة مدربون بشكل جيد بصد لولواء مدرع.

السادس: أن المعركة ما زالت في متسع من الزمان والمكان والعدد والعدة، وأن الحال لم يصل إلى مثل هذه الضرورة التي قد تلجئ الإنسان إلى الموت، فلا ضرورة لقتل النفس بهذه الطرق. ونحن نتابع أحوال المعارك في معظم أنحاء البلد. نعم إن حوصر جماعة من الثوار في مكان كالخالدية وغلب على الظن فناؤهم ولم يكن سبيل إلى نجاتهم إلا يقيام واحد منهم باختراق صفوف العدو ملقيا بنفسه إلى الموت مع غلبة الظن بنجاة إخوانه لفتح طريق لهم للخروج جاز ذلك، ولكن ما ورد السؤال من أجله من العمليات الاستشهادية يختلف عن هذا والتفصيل واجب.

السابع: أن في الوسائل الأخرى متسعا أيضا وخصوصا الاغتيالات من خلال ترصد المجرمين الكبار واصطيادهم الواحد بعد الآخر، وقد رأينا كيف استطاع طباخ وضع السم لعدد من المجرمين الكبار ثم نجا بنفسه ولو قتل كان شهيدا، ورأينا كيف استطاع حاجب بطل إدخال المتفجرات إلى مكتب الأمن القومي فاستطاع قتل كبار المجرمين ونجا بنفسه ولو قتل خلال العملية لمات شهيدا، ولكنه لم يحتج إلى أن يضحي بنفسه.

الثامن: ما في هذه العمليات من المخاطرة بتفجير السيارة قبل الوقت أو في غير المكان المقصود فيفوت المقصود غالبا ويموت عند ذلك قطعا الأبرياء وقد حدث هذا من قبل مرات عديدة وبفوات المقصود يفوت السبب الذي من أجله يقتل الإنسان نفسه.

لهذه الأسباب مجتمعة أفتي بتحريم القيام بعمليات لتفجير السيارات (الاستشهادية) في سورية وتحريم التخطيط لها وتحريم التدريب عليها تحريم تجنيد الشباب لها. وأوجه أبناءنا الثوار إلى طرق القتال المشروعة مع الحفاظ آداب القتال في الإسلام. ونحن أقوى ما التزمنا بأخلاق الإسلام، وأعظم ما تمسكنا بأحكام الإسلام. وقوتنا ليست بعَددنا ولا بعُددنا، وإنما بعظمة ديننا. والنصر ليس بالكثرة ولا بالبأس والقوة، وإنما هو سر من الأسرار له أسباب ظاهرة في الاستعداد بالسلاح والتدريب، وأسباب خفية في اللجوء إلى الله تعالى والمداومة على ذكره وإقامة العدل على البعيد قبل القريب والعدو قبل الصديق قال تعالى: {ولا تهنوا ولا تحزنوا وأنتم الأعلون إن كنتم مؤمنين}.

هذا ما لزم بيانه باختصار، وصلى الله على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين وآخر دعوانا أن الحمد لله رب العالمين
خادم العلم الشريف
محمد أبو الهدى اليعقوبي‬

October 12th, 2012, 1:53 am

 

Albo said:

129 “In an advanced democratic state with free press and viable opposition the goverment can not make up stories to cover their faults”

Turkey’s not an advanced democratic state, it has more jailed journalists than Iran and China combined, its Kurdish political parties are harassed and it’s clear that they have made up a lot of stories recently, including fake allegations of coups against their generals. Ask any Turk with a kemalist background and you’ll see how respected the opposition is.

In any case, the plane story is perfectly ridiculous and meant for Turkish internal consumption, it’s plain bravado to show they can be tough, that you know, they are doing something and can stop a civilian plane. Never mind that if there really were anything sensitive inside, there are like hundreds of other routes and means of transport to be used. And don’t hold your breath and expect them to ever do the same with a Russian plane, of course.

October 12th, 2012, 4:43 am

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

Shiek yakobi missed the Noble for physics by 2 days.If he will give his theory about
تحليل اللواط من اجل ادخال المتفجرات في الدبر
Then he may get the Medicine prize because that will treat hemorrhoids at the same time.
Syria free of idiots.

October 12th, 2012, 5:45 am

 

Citizen said:

Reality Check: U.S. Is Supporting Al Qaeda in Syria
http://xrepublic.net/node/566

October 12th, 2012, 6:00 am

 

Citizen said:

Related Is The Forced Signing of Waivers By Crew & Passengers
Related is the report that of the Turkish Government forcing the crew and passengers of this Syrian commercial jet to sign waivers stating there were no Turkish military planes involved . . .
and that the Syrian commercial jet landed in Turkey for an “emergency landing”.
The Zionist thugs love to make their victims sign away their rights . just ask all those “9-11 Families” that were forced to sign by good ol’ Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein.
http://rt.com/news/erdogan-turkey-plane-munition-russia-200/

October 12th, 2012, 6:09 am

 

Citizen said:

UN’s Syria envoy to visit Turkey
Ankara- The UN-Arab League special representative to Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, is going to travel to Turkey.
Brahimi will be on a regional trip to continue international efforts seeking a political solution to the Syrian crisis.
The exact date of the visit has not scheduled yet, a Turkish official said, requesting anonymity.
The Ankara official, however, said the visit would be before Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to Turkey later this month.
Syria is expected to be high on the agenda of the Russian leader’s visit as well.
The visit of the UN-Arab League official comes at a time that tensions on Syria-Turkey border is at high and the two sides have traded artillery fire six times in the recent days.
The tensions seem to be inflamed as Turkey Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that Turkey and its people have to be prepared for a war.
http://www.kurdpress.com/En/NSite/FullStory/News/?Id=2694#Title=%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09UN's Syria envoy to visit Turkey %0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09

October 12th, 2012, 6:49 am

 

zoo said:

Al Qaeeda is taking over the FSA

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-activists-jihadists-seize-missile-120244334.html

BEIRUT (AP) — Anti-regime activists say jihadist fighters linked to al-Qaida fought with rebels to capture a Syrian military air defense base near Aleppo.
Videos posted online Friday apparently shot inside the base say Jabhat al-Nusra participated in the overnight battle for the base. The videos show fighters inspecting lines of large missiles.

Two Aleppo-based activists and Rami Abdul-Rahman, head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, also say Jabhat al-Nusra fought in the battle.

The base’s capture is sure to fuel fears that Islamic extremists are playing a greater role after nearly 19 months of unrest in Syria. Western powers cite their presence as a reason not to arm the rebels.

October 12th, 2012, 8:27 am

 

zoo said:

No weapons, no ammunition…

Boxes had spare radar parts for Syria: Report

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/boxes-had-spare-radar-parts-for-syria-report.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32268&NewsCatID=359

Cargo on board a Syrian plane that was grounded by Turkish authorities on Oct. 10 was transporting spare parts for Syrian radar and air defense mechanisms, according to sources cited by Russian daily Kommersant.

A Russian diplomat speaking to the paper said there were no arms on the plane, but simply spare parts for radars and manuals explaining their usage.

The report further stated that no extensive permit was needed to transport such cargo since the boxes did not contain anything sharp, explosive or flammable.

October 12th, 2012, 8:30 am

 

zoo said:

Qatar hypocrisy in action…

AP Interview: Foreign minister denies Qatar providing weapons to Syria rebels, wants UN action

Published October 12, 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/12/qatar-foreign-minister-denies-providing-weapons-to-syria-rebels-wants-un-backed/#ixzz295VI0tSe

TOKYO – The United Nations should move quickly to assist rebel forces in Syria with arms and funding, and should support a no-fly zone to protect civilians caught in the middle of the country’s escalating civil war, Qatar’s foreign minister said in an interview Friday.

Khalid Bin Mohammad al-Attiyah said Qatar is providing rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces with food, medicine and clothes. But he denied reports his country is funneling arms to the rebels, and said getting them the heavy arms they need to fight Assad’s well-equipped military would require unity from the international community that has not yet materialized.

October 12th, 2012, 8:41 am

 

zoo said:

The ‘uprising’ prevented the peace talks with Israel and the return of the Golan.

Netanyahu offered to quit Golan for peace with Syria: report
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu offered last year full withdrawal from the Golan Heights and turning it over to Syrian sovereignty in exchange of peace with Damascus, recently-issued news report

AFP , Friday 12 Oct 2012
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/55423/World/Region/Netanyahu-offered-to-quit-Golan-for-peace-with-Syr.aspx

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered to quit the occupied Golan Heights in exchange for peace with Syria in US-mediated negotiations last year, Yediot Aharonot daily said on Friday.

But the newspaper said the talks fizzled out without any agreement as domestic protest that erupted in mid-March 2011 against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s rule spiralled into civil war.

Veteran diplomatic correspondent Shimon Schiffer wrote that late last year Netanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud Barak began indirect negotiations with the Syrian president, through US envoy Fred Hoff, who was at the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s special representative on Syria.

October 12th, 2012, 8:47 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, the Most High.

We again thank our noble Turkish brothers for continuing to humiliate the criminals against humanity, nazi-like remnants of Mongolian rejects occupying Damascus.

Our dear Turkish brothers sent a fighter jet today into Syria in order to force a helicopter involved in crimes against humanity to flee.

On the other hand Russian sources admitted the presence of military equipment on board the so-called civilian plane that was intercepted by Turkish Air Force.

What in the hell are boxes containing radar parts for tracking missiles doing on a ‘civilian’ airoplane?

Our noble Turkish brothers have provided immense help to the Syrian people by confiscating these military parts that otherwise would have been used for terrorist acts against the Syrian people by the Russian mafia and their criminal stooges, the agents of Satan.

October 12th, 2012, 9:00 am

 

Tara said:

http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/10/12/106-soldiers-die-as-syrian-rebels-go-on-attack/#.UHgUUrd5mc1

106 soldiers die as Syrian rebels go on attack
By AFP Oct 12th, 2012 

Damascus: Syrian rebels have gone on the offensive killing more than 100 soldiers in two days, a watchdog said on Friday, as tension between Syria and Turkey escalated over cargo seized from a Syrian Air jet.

Fourteen soldiers died in an attack on an army post in the southern province of Daraa on Friday, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, a day after the army suffered 92 losses, the highest daily total for the military of the 19-month conflict.
….

October 12th, 2012, 9:09 am

 

Syria no Kandahar said:

Praise Erdogan the most powerful criminal for what he is doing in Syria :
إلى ذلك عثرت الجهات المختصة اليوم على جثة الطبيب محمود تسابحجي مدير مشفى الجامعة في حلب الذي اختطفته مجموعة إرهابية مسلحة منذ 6 أسابيع من أمام منزله في حي السبيل بمدينة حلب.

وذكر مصدر مسؤول لمراسلة سانا أنه تم العثور على جثة الطبيب تسابحجي وعليها آثار إطلاق نار منها طلق ناري في رأسه وذلك في منطقة الكاستيلو بحلب.

October 12th, 2012, 9:17 am

 

Albo said:

“What in the hell are boxes containing radar parts for tracking missiles doing on a ‘civilian’ airoplane?

Our noble Turkish brothers have provided immense help to the Syrian people by confiscating these military parts that otherwise would have been used for terrorist acts against the Syrian people by the Russian mafia and their criminal stooges, the agents of Satan.”

Agents of Satan must really have supernatural powers, if they can use parts of radar for, hum, terrorism. The people concerned by Syrian anti-air, well, it’s the Turks

“We again thank our noble Turkish brothers for continuing to humiliate the criminals against humanity, nazi-like remnants of Mongolian rejects occupying Damascus.”

If you’re so worried about Mongolian remnants, be careful about calling Turks brothers. Turks and Mongols are closely related people in blood and langage, having lived together for millenia in central Asia, and Turks hold mongols in high esteem: Cengiz (=Genghis) is a popular name in Turkey.

October 12th, 2012, 9:48 am

 

ghufran said:

that is what terrorists and Mossad agents have done in Iraq until the country lost most of its scientists, people who defend the killing of doctors and scientists are thugs who should apply for an emigration visa at the nearest Taliban embassy (Doha,for real):

العثور على جثة مدير مشفى جامعة حلب بعد 6 أسابيع من خطفه

2012-10-12 03:33:17
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عثر اليوم الجمعة على جثة الدكتور محمود تسابحجي مدير مشفى جامعة حلب مقتولاً وذلك بعد نحو شهر و نصف على خطفه من قبل الجيش الحر .
وقال مصدر في رئاسة جامعة حلب لعربي برس ” عثر على جثة الدكتور محمود تسابحجي ملقاة بالقرب من مطعم الكاستيلو شمال حلب ” .
وكان مسلحو الجيش الحر خطفوا الدكتور تسابحجي أثناء مغادرته منزله متجهاً على مشفى الجامعة، وهو من أشهر أطباء الانف و الاذن و الحنجرة بحلب .
و كان مسلسل خطف وقتل الأطباء بدا قبل عام بشكل طائفي قبل أن يتمدد ليشمل جميع الطوائف ، فقد سبق لتنسيقية أطباء حلب أن خطفت الدكتور زين العابدين عيسى و أقدمت على تصفيته قبل نحو عام ، ثم تم اغتيال الدكتور شادي زيدو في عيادته في السكن الشبابي بالمعصرانية ، و استمر المسلسل باغتيالات كان اخرها خطف وقتل الدكتور تسابحجي

October 12th, 2012, 10:03 am

 

Visitor said:

# 153,

Obviously you do not know that the Turks are our historical brothers, while the nazi-like remnants of the mongolians are the descendants of those who invaded our lands and spread destruction exactly as we see happening today.

But bigots tend to know very little.

October 12th, 2012, 10:29 am

 

zoo said:

Syrians should never allow Syria to fall again under the boots of our Turkish “brothers.”
They should see Safar Barlik as an example of “brotherly” treatment.
They should remember the amputation of Iskenderun and Hatay organized by France.

Now some Syrians are licking the same boots and praising God.

October 12th, 2012, 10:43 am

 

Albo said:

“Obviously you do not know that the Turks are our historical brothers, while the nazi-like remnants of the mongolians are the descendants of those who invaded our lands and spread destruction exactly as we see happening today.

But bigots tend to know very little.”

Indeed they know very little. Turks have been lording it over Arabs ever since the Abbassid caliphate. With brothers like these, who needs enemies?

Oh so they shared the same faith, and fraudulently usurped the title of caliphs so it must be OK. Napoleon too, when he conquered Egypt, proclaimed he was muslim. By that logic, he was no longer an invader but a “brother”.

October 12th, 2012, 10:59 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Malala Yousafzai: Pakistan observes day of prayer
12 October 2012

People in Pakistan have been observing a day of prayer for the recovery of a 14-year-old girl shot in the head by Taliban gunmen.

[…]

“Malala’s condition is satisfactory, praise be to God, but the next 24 to 36 hours are critical,” military spokesman Maj Gen Asim Saleem Bajwa told reporters at a briefing.

“Today is the sacred day of Friday and the entire nation is praying for her health. I pray to Allah that He bestows her with good health very soon,” he is quoted as saying by AFP news agency.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19913201

October 12th, 2012, 11:04 am

 

Mina said:

Every Friday since Morsi’s victory they claim at villages mosques that “demonstrations are haram” but when they’ve heard the coalitions of opposition parties wanted to demonstrate against Morsi’s failures and the general laxity in justice and else, suddenly the extremists find demonstrations halal (ahhh it must been considered jihad against atheists, then)
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/55417/Egypt/Politics-/UPDATE–ProBrotherhood-demonstrators-attack-Accoun.aspx

October 12th, 2012, 11:12 am

 

ghufran said:

even Faisal Al-qasem is fed up with political gymnastics:
المعارضان السوريان اللذان رفضا الظهور في برنامج الإتجاه المعاكس، تعرضا لهجوم شرس من قبل القاسم الذي كتب على صفحته على موقع التواصل الإجتماعي فيسبوك “للمطالبين بمحمد العبد الله ضيفاً مقابل شريف شحادة، حاولنا، لكن العبد الله بات يعتقد أنه شخصية عالمية لا تتنازل للظهور على الشاشات بسهولة، للمطالبين بعمار القربي ضيفاً لبرنامج الاتجاه المعاكس، اتفقنا معه عدة مرات وكان ينسحب باللحظات الأخيرة لاعتقاده أنه اصبح ايضاً شخصية عالمية خارقة للعادة”.
لم يكتفي فيصل القاسم بمهاجمة القربي، والعبدالله بل أشار إلى انه من “المحزن جداً أن يطالب معظم السوريين المؤيدين للثورة بصالح المشنوق اللبناني لمواجهة مؤيدي النظام السوري، مع العلم أنه لا يفلح الأرض إلا عجولها”

October 12th, 2012, 11:23 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, the Most High.

Our Syrian brothers in Azmarin feel much safer today because of the noble Turkish act of chasing away the tools of murder against humanity that are spreading destruction in Syria in the hands of the evil agents of Satan,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/8f081fab-66a0-4160-9bab-fce92fc11ca8?GoogleStatID=9

October 12th, 2012, 11:59 am

 

ann said:

All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, the Most High.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b39_1349980990

October 12th, 2012, 12:24 pm

 

syrain said:

162. ann said:

“All Praise be to Allah, the Most Powerful, the Most High.”

264. ann said:

“Any half self respecting Arab would say “All praise be to God” not Allah you Dmubass!

So what branch of the government do you work for, and how much is your stpuidity costing the taxpayers?!”

October 12th, 2012, 12:59 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Assad regime supporters may have confirmation of their worst fears with the news that Bashar Assad has taken personal command of the Syrian military.

Article: Bashar takes command

Excerpt:

…that the Syrian regime feels a need to mention Assad’s purportedly new role represents an implicit admission that things have been amiss militarily. Yes, it is the regime’s way of saying that the gloves are off, therefore no one should expect a political solution to the crisis. But it also tells us that the military campaign is in need of new momentum. We knew that, but Assad’s supporters were reluctant to admit it. Now they have indirect confirmation of their worst fears.

Bashar’s entering the military fray may also be an indication that the president feels he has lost control over his armed forces, just as he appears to be facing strains in the inner core of his regime. The most recent example of this was the departure of his sister Bushra for Dubai, amid suspicions that the bomb attack that eliminated her husband, Assef Shawkat, was an inside job, organized by the regime itself. Too little attention was paid to Bushra’s exit, as this was likely the first instance of discord within the Assad household.

By reasserting his authority, at least publicly, Assad could be seeking to glue the increasingly disparate pieces of Assad rule back together again. But here too there is an implicit admission. When you say that you’re taking command, what you are really saying is that previously you were not in command. And not being in command 19 months into a vast uprising is confirmation of gross negligence.
[…]
Whatever the correct explanation, there is a simple rule in politics: When things are going wrong, never suggest that they aren’t going right.

In the end [Assad] remains a civilian–and an amateur leading Syria’s military is really the last thing it needs after a year and a half of slow, steady retreat.

http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=445732&MID=0&PID=0#ixzz296bCk7Wi

October 12th, 2012, 1:26 pm

 

syrain said:

Madam B.S. is wanted
القضاء اللبناني يطلب الاستماع الى بثينة شعبان حول مزاعم في تورطها مع سماحة بمخطط تفجيرات لبنان

http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=153517

October 12th, 2012, 1:40 pm

 

Tara said:

I would love to see Buthina وراء القضبان

October 12th, 2012, 1:58 pm

 

zoo said:

#162 Ann

All Praise be to Al Jazeera, the Most Powerful, the Richest, the Most Honest of all Media.

October 12th, 2012, 2:13 pm

 

zoo said:

What put the passengers in danger was the interception by the Turkish F-16 that could have provoked an accident.

What Russia lambasts Turkey

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/plane-carrying-legal-shipment-lavrov.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32320&NewsCatID=359

“We have no secrets,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters Oct. 12. “There were, of course, no weapons on the plane and could not have been any. There was a cargo on the plane that a legal Russian supplier was sending in a legal way to a legal customer.”

Lavrov said the Airbus A-320 was carrying radar components and transporting such items by civil aircraft does not contradict international norms, according to Russia Today.

The sources told the paper that the cargo needed no special documentation as it posed no risk to the crew of the plane or the aircraft itself.

October 12th, 2012, 2:15 pm

 

zoo said:

Claims of despair: After failing to bring Turkey into the conflict the FSA is now trying to bring in Lebanon into the war and claims that it has killed 60 Hezbollah members in Al Qaseer.

FSA spokesman: FSA kill 60 Hezbollah fighters, retake town

http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=31423

12/10/2012
By Paula Astatih

Beirut, Asharq Al-Awsat – After previously threatening to transfer the conflict from Syria to the southern suburbs of Beirut, Free Syrian Army [FSA] spokesman Fahd al-Masri, informed Asharq Al-Awsat that 60 Hezbollah elements had been killed in the town of al-Qaseer on Thursday. He revealed that Hezbollah had requested a truce with the Syrian rebels – lasting for several hours – to retrieve their slain comrades from Syrian territory; however this request was rejected by the FSA leadership.
….
For his part, Lebanese Change and Reform bloc MP Fadi al-Awar, categorically denied reports of Hezbollah cadres being killed in Syria. The senior member of the Change and Reform bloc – which has strong ties to Hezbollah – acknowledged that a number of Hezbollah cadres had been killed by Syrian rebels, but stressed that this had taken place on Lebanese territory, citing “geographic overlap between Lebanese and Syrian villages, particularly in Hermel.”

October 12th, 2012, 2:26 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo,

You do not need to run to the rescue every time someone says something to Ann. She is a big girl ( I suspect a big boy), he/ she can handle it. Really..

October 12th, 2012, 2:27 pm

 

zoo said:

Tara

I am sure he/she does not need my support.
That was just a small token. I could not resist.

October 12th, 2012, 2:40 pm

 
 

Tara said:

Zoo,

طيّب. سماح هالمرّة. 😉

October 12th, 2012, 4:19 pm

 

Citizen said:

IT appears that they have been “parked” there in anticipation of an invasion of Syria.

Jordan: US Troops Helping Prepare for Syrian Attack
Forces Fortify Border, Prepare for Chemical Weapons Attacks

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/10/11/jordan-us-troops-helping-prepare-for-syrian-attack/
Why on earth war-torn Syria would even consider invading Jordan is unclear, but the US troops on the ground in Jordan are apparently spending all their time preparingfor that eventuality anyhow, at least according to Jordanian officials familiar with the situation.
The 150 US troops are deployed in a base on the outskirts of Amman, and have apparently been spending time on the dual goals of reinforcing the Jordanian side of the border with Syria, and preparing for thepossibility of a chemical weapons attack.
Which seems enormously unlikely, as Syria has repeatedly said that they will only use their chemical weapon arsenal in retaliation for a foreign invasion. The more plausible explanation is the one raised when the US deployment was first revealed, that the troops are actually planning for a raid into Syria to seize the nation’s chemical weapons.
Though there has been some spillover of the Syrian Civil War into Jordan, most of the fighting now is centering on the northern frontier of Syria, along the border with Turkey.
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The invasion of Syria is going to happen, and it is not a question now of if, but when.
Turkey’s armed forces have been put in a state of high alert over increased tensions along the border with Syria, according to anonymous NATO sources.
“Events between Ankara and Damascus are developing according to a highly critical scenario,” said the source as quoted by ITAR-TASS.
The report adds that NATO’s headquarters have taken up standing consultations and analysis regarding the situation along the Turkish-Syrian border.
NATO has data that Turkey has deployed 25 additional F-16 fighter jets in its air base in Diyarbakir near Syria.
“Turkey aims at the creation of a no-fly zone of the Syrian air force and civilian aviation over northern Syria,” adds the source.
Turkey’s Army on War Alert over Syria – Report
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/8594

October 12th, 2012, 4:38 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Our courageous Syrian people once again displayed to the whole world their unwavering determination to get rid of the criminal nazi-like remnants of Mongolian rejects. The people of Syria again came out courageously on this Friday to declare such determination,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/5b7e30f0-66c9-4560-a7e9-bab3a42ff4ff?GoogleStatID=1

While Lavrov continues to bark, our noble Turkish brothers used their air force to launch several raids on positions of the criminal thugs cowering like K9’s in Damascus,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/12/243354.html

October 12th, 2012, 4:47 pm

 

Citizen said:

Australian foreign minister suggests “assassination” of Syrian leaders
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/oct2012/carr-o11.shtml
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the “start of an armed conflict” generated by the mercs in Syria, to which Turkey and NATO can respond, is precisely the outcome the US, Israel, and NATO want to see happen.
Syria is not at all the real prize here; it is Iran, because it will not trade its oil for petrodollars, which is the prize.
Should there be an overt invasion of Syria, provoked by NATO and Western-funded agents-provacateurs, Iran is treaty-bound to assist it militarily.
That, then, becomes the “causus belli” for a war against Iran. It’s nuclear program is the alleged “good reason”; but the real reason is for having committed the crime of not selling its oil in petrodollars.
Such a war would engender massive casualties on all side. Russia and China, which has been developing Iran’s southern oil fields for its domestic consumption, may well join the fray on the side of Iran.
So what we have here is the potential for a global thermonuclear war over an alleged Iranian weapons program which cannot, to date, be proven to exist.
I would like to strongly caution those who, for some reasons which absolutely defy logic, think that such a war would be a “swell idea”, to be very, very careful about what they wish for; the unintended consequences could well be horrific, and irreversible.

October 12th, 2012, 4:50 pm

 

zoo said:

All Praise be to Qatar, the One and Only Reliable Supporter of Jabhat Al Nusra

http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-militants-help-seize-missile-syria-184543150.html

A report by a correspondent with the Arabic satellite network Al-Jazeera who visited the base Friday said Jabhat al-Nusra took the lead in the attack, killing three guards and taking others prisoner before seizing the base. The report showed a number of missiles and charred buildings, as well as fighters wearing black masks

Western powers — and many Syrians — worry that Islamist extremists are playing an increasing role in Syria’s civil war, which started in March 2011 as a mostly peaceful uprising against Assad.

Little is known about Jabhat al-Nusra, or the Support Front, which began claiming attacks in Syria earlier this year in postings on jihadi forums often used by al-Qaida. While neither group has officially acknowledged a link to the other, analysts say al-Nusra’s tactics, rhetoric and use of al-Qaida forums point to an affiliation.

Activists on the ground say the group is known for fighting on the front lines in harsh battles and goes out of its way not to show up in activist videos.

“Most brigades want to be filmed in operations so they can get support, but al-Nusra doesn’t allow any filming,” Aleppo activist Mohammed Abu Omar said via Skype.

October 12th, 2012, 4:59 pm

 

Citizen said:

Mr Landis! analyze the facts!
Russian journalist missing in Syria
Russian journalist Ankhar Kochneva has gone missing in Syria, another reporter Elena Gromova, who accompanied Ankhar, told the VoR. Russian diplomats are investigating.
Elena told the VoR that on Monday, Ankhar delivered a lecture in the town of Tartus, and intended to go to Homs. Elena suggested to Ankhar to go together but she declined and left Tartus about 5 pm Tuesday. She was last contacted on Tuesday about 21 pm. She was to return to Damascus late Wednesday but is still missing. Some bloggers write that Kochneva contacted her husband and told him that she had been kidnapped near the town of Al Qusayr.
Ankhar Kochneva is a Ukrainian passport-holder. She worked at Utro.ru office in Syria. In Moscow, she worked as the head of the Jordan Club travel agency.
Syria is now gripped by the conflict between the government and the opposition, as a result of which, according to the UN, some 20,000 people have been killed.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_10_12/Russian-journalist-missing-in-Syria/
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Archive !
325. SYRIALOVER SAID:
CITIZEN #319
Thank God for the gift to the world of Russian journalist Anhar Kochneva!
I hope she does similar cool (or should I say hot) investigative reporting in her own country.
Pulitzer prize journalism contestants and Nobel Peace prize candidates step aside, make way for Anhar.
http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=16341&cp=7#comments
331. SYRIALOVER SAID:
CITIZEN,
I am thinking about that super Russian journalist Anhar Kochneva (# 319).
Not only does she get invited into Syria on a magic carpet ride by the regime, she also gets carefully protected by the Syrian Army.
Meanwhile, obviously inferior woman journalists for example Marie Colvin and that Japanese journalist not only remain unprotected, they actually get killed by the same army!
How come, I think in puzzlement.
Then I looked up this picture of Anhar and saw the sly, kind of naughty look she is giving us. Some pot-bellied Syrian general obviously couldn’t resist!
http://www.myspace.com/566867155/photos/1361388#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A1361388%7D
Am I right, CITIZEN?
http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=16341&cp=7#comments

October 12th, 2012, 5:41 pm

 

Syrialover said:

TARA and SYRAIN,

It’s a clue to how underpowered, inept and chaotic Assad’s inner circle is that Bouthaina Shabaan was given the task of working with disgraced Lebanese politician Michel Samaha to transport explosives from Syria into Lebanon to use in terrorist attacks aimed at anti-Assad figures.

Dr B.S. – Assad’s paid liar-in-chief and world’s most hideous witch, even with her best wig on.

The undisputable evidence against her being heard in the current court case in Lebanon will be excellent material when she appears before a war crimes tribunal.

In the meantime, let’s wait to see what the Lebanese prosecutor decides to do about her: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Oct-12/191142-lebanon-prosecutor-suspends-decision-over-syrias-shaaban.ashx#ixzz297gCYsKY

October 12th, 2012, 5:51 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

The most common expression nowadays on the Syrian coast is:

ما حيخليلنا حدا من ولادنا

Which means

Evil agent of Satan will not spare any of our offsprings

October 12th, 2012, 6:11 pm

 

Syrialover said:

CITIZEN

So what are you saying?

I say it’s terrifying and terrible that another journalist could be a victim of this war.

In this case, she was in a war zone as a representative of one of the regime’s active allies and publishing strongly pro-Assad material (which you promoted).

It shows the tragically high risk of involvement.

Which is a more objective assessment than the ugly accusations dismissively laid by pro-regimists against all those journalists from outside Syria who have lost their lives or gone missing at the hands of the regime.

October 12th, 2012, 6:11 pm

 

Tara said:

This is a must read.  Are Asmaa and her mother not reading?  Are they not scared of God’s intervention.  I find it extremely difficult to comprehend.  What has happened to these people?!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/wave-upon-wave-of-wounded-strain-doctors-at-hospital-in-syrias-largest-city-of-aleppo/2012/10/12/a1633b1e-14ae-11e2-9a39-1f5a7f6fe945_story.html

Wave upon wave of wounded strain doctors at hospital in Syria’s largest city of Aleppo

The medics work amid the wails of traumatized children, badly wounded men shouting Islam’s declaration of faith in their final minutes, and rebel fighters holding RPGs mourning dead comrades, with tears streaming down their gunpowder-blackened cheeks.

Blood is everywhere. Orderlies mop it up as more wounded arrive. Amid the din of groans and cries for help, a worker spots a severed limb on the floor and tries to break the tension with some black humor.

“Anyone missing a foot?” he asks.
….
Dar al-Shifa has only seven doctors, two of whom are trained for emergency duties, and two nurses. The atmosphere is a bizarre and somewhat unnerving mixture of urgency, nonchalance, resolve and anger.

The staff smokes freely in the corridors, watching TV during breaks in treating the waves of wounded. Dr. Osman al-Haj Osman even has moved his wife and two small children into the facility in order to be close to them.
..
Because the hospital has no morgue, the dead are left on the sidewalk outside, where it is cooler. If the bodies are not identified and claimed within 12 hours, they are photographed and then buried. Residents who come to the hospital looking for missing relatives are shown the photos and — if they recognize a loved one — are given the choice of exhuming the remains for reburial elsewhere.

October 12th, 2012, 6:16 pm

 

Visitor said:


All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Syrian air defense a paper tiger

“In 1982,” Hashem said, “19 batteries of our 20 tank batteries—each battery consisting of five tanks and each tank equipped with three SAM-6 missiles—were wiped out in a single strike by surface-to-surface Israeli missiles.”  Syrian aircraft fared no better. “Ninety-three of our air fighters were shot down in a two-hour air battle with the Israelis. No Israeli planes were shot down. This happened over the Beqaa Valley. I was there. I was in Lebanon at the time and I witnessed everything. So this is not rumor, this is fact.”

Despite decades of technological innovations in the Israeli and Western militaries, Syria still relies heavily on Soviet-era relics to defend itself. This is especially true in the north of the country. The regime chose to concentrate its newer hardware in the west and south of Syria to guard against you-know-who, not that that’s worked particularly well either: Israeli jets have penetrated Syrian airspace three times in the last few decades without incurring any damage to their planes. The 2007 sortie powdered a nuclear reactor in Deir Ezzour.

Hashem is the most outspoken Syrian proponent of intervention, and he’s convinced that the arguments educed against it by the Obama administration amount to politically motivated excuse-making. (Curiously, this assessment is shared even by some in the Syrian opposition who are ideologically opposed to intervention, such as leftist Michel Kilo.) “I heard so many statements from high-ranking officials in the West, like [Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin] Dempsey, talking foolishly about the strength of the Syrian military, as if they don’t know anything about it.” He thinks that the US has purposefully overestimated the regime’s fighting capability and underestimated the opposition’s.

A partial no-fly zone, Hashem reckons, can now be imposed over Idleb and Aleppo provinces more easily because the rebels are already doing much of the heavy-lifting themselves. There are seven airbases in total in those two provinces, at least two of which—one in Taftanaz, one in Abu Duhur—have been raided in recent weeks, their materiel confiscated or destroyed.  Even without surface-to-air missiles of their own, rebels have managed to shoot down or neutralize MiG warplanes and helicopters and blow up T-72 tanks; in the battle over the Abu Duhur airbase, they took out between 8 and 12 helicopters on the ground, and downed two more mid-flight.  But their struggle is still David-and-Goliath while the regime can drop barrels of TNT onto civilian neighborhoods and its howitzers can shell entire cities into dust.

“One US aircraft carrier with 80 or 85 sophisticated air fighters, plus the Incirlik air base in Turkey, is enough to do the job,” Hashem said. His envisaged no-fly zone would have a depth of about 120-kilometers from the Syrian-Turkish border. “You can control that entire area with air-to-air missiles from F16 or F18 fighter jets. These missiles have a range of 80 kilometers, so Western or Turkish aircraft would only need to enter 40 kilometers of Syrian airspace to maintain air supremacy.” Anti-tank helicopters or anti-tank air-fighters, such as A-10s, could then patrol the border, along which Turkey has already stationed its own contingent of troops, artillery and anti-aircraft batteries following the downing of its F4 reconnaissance plane in June and the lethal cross-border shelling of the Turkish border town Akcakale last week.

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October 12th, 2012, 6:24 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Syrian army weakens as battle fronts multiply

The Syrian army has suffered major setbacks in the north of the country, its resources worn down by an increasing number of battle fronts and rebel attacks, analysts say.

The rebels, despite a lack of ammunition and arms, have stepped up attacks on different fronts with rockets, automatic weapons and mortar fire, inflicting a record number of army casualties.

This week, they severed the highway connecting Damascus to Aleppo, the main route for army reinforcements to the northern city where fighting has centered over the past three months.

Resupplying the army is “a fundamental aspect of the performance of the military,” said Emile Hokayem, Middle East expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

While army units, stationed across the Syrian countryside, were initially well-stocked with supplies and ammunition, “over time it becomes very difficult to reach them,” he said.

“The number of fronts have multiplied to the extent that [the army] can no longer count them,” said Rami Abdel Rahman, director of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

“The regular army is fighting in hundreds of places. Before, the battle was concentrated in Homs [center], but today it has reached Aleppo, the coast, the Turkish border areas and the provinces of Damascus and Deir Ezzor [east].”

In a cartoon posted on Facebook on Friday, a panting bull tagged “the regime” is running in circles, surrounded by six bullfighters wearing the flag of the Syrian revolt and waving red capes in front of him.

The bullfighters are labeled with the names of the strife-torn provinces.

“In several cases, the forces of President Bashar al-Assad had to abandon the battlefield or surrender because they did not have enough supplies, they did not have enough gasoline for their armored vehicles,” said Hokayem.

“This is what happened in Maaret al-Numan,” the analyst added.

This strategic city, the gateway to the troops sent to Aleppo, fell on Tuesday to the rebel fighters as the army “checkpoints were isolated, they had no gasoline.”

Analysts say the army’s superiority, notably its air supremacy, are no longer decisive in the conflict which has dragged on for 19 months and left troops demoralized by defections and deprived of reinforcements.

“The qualitative edge, weaponry and technology that Assad has is still present but you cannot deploy it where your manpower has lost morale and is very weary,” said Hokayem.

“When you have hundreds of insurgents ambushing a checkpoint and inflicting huge losses on the army, air raids do not change the equation,” said Abdel Rahman.

For experts, the numerical superiority of the army — 350,000 troops — is only theoretical. Some have deserted, while others have been confined to their barracks.

According to Hokayem, air raids are mainly used to give confidence to the troops on the ground, but “technology alone won’t deliver victory to Assad.”

A Syrian security official said that the army is working — thus far unsuccessfully — to eliminate rebel pockets in Homs province in order to free up troops for battle zones in the north, such as Aleppo.

Hokayem said that “in many places, the Syrian military now is akin to an occupation force more than anything else.”

“The loyalists are scared to death every time we attack,” said Colonel Abdel Jabbar al-Oqaidi, a rebel leader in Aleppo. “At night, they are so afraid that they sleep in their tanks.”

“We are fighting in our own towns and villages. We know every corner, while the soldiers deploying from other provinces have no idea about the territory,” he said.

-AFP

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October 12th, 2012, 6:28 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Syrians document all cases of victims for the approaching day of reckoning when criminal thug, evil agent of Satan, nazi-like descendant of Mongolian rejects will stand in front of court of justice to answer and pay for his evil deeds.

السوريون يوثّقون الضحايا..”كي لا يُقتَلوا مرتين”
إيلي عبدو، الجمعة 12 تشرين الأول 2012

(المصري اليوم)
كثيرة هي القصص التي تخبر عن أشخاص وجدوا جثث أحبّتهم بالصدفة. إمرأة من ريف دمشق تصاب بالذهول حين تجد جثة إبنها بين الشبان الذين تحاول إسعافهم. ناشط في بيروت يرى جثة والده في فيديو على موقع “يوتيوب”، وقصص أخرى غيرها… لكن أعداداً لا تحصى من الجثث التي تنتَشل من تحت الركام ومن السهول والأزقة وبقايا الأبنية المتهدمة تظل بلا هوية، في قتل مضاعف للضحية.

ولكي لا تظل هذه الجثث أسيرة المجهول، قامت مجموعة من الأطباء السوريين من الذين يقيمون داخل البلاد وبمساعدة من بعض الشباب من الخارج بإطلاق مبادرة لتوثيق الشهداء مجهولي الهوية.

وترمي الخطوة إلى توثيق الجثث والاحتفاظ بعينات منها يُستفاد منها لاحقاً في تحليل الحمض النووي (DNA) الخاص بها ومقارنة نتائج التحليل مع (DNA) ذوي المفقودين، ما يساعد في تحديد هوية أصحاب الجثث وبالتالي تأكيد موتهم وشطبهم من ملف المفقودين.

هولاء الناشطون لم ينتظروا سقوط النظام للقيام بمهمة البحث عن المفقودين، لأن احتمال ضياع الجثث نتيجة تعرض أماكن دفنها إلى الإخفاء أو القصف أو حتى مقتل من يعلم بمكانها، كبير جداً. وجمع العينات قبل دفن الجثث سيخفف برأي الناشطين من معاناة أهلهم ويكشف عن مصيرهم.

 ويشير المسؤولون في تعريفهم عن الحملة بأن “الفئة المستهدفة من هذا المشروع هم عامة من السوريين لا سيما النشطاء على الأرض والذين هم على احتكاك مباشر بجثامين الشهداء في مناطقهم”.

 ويضيفون: “سنعمل على إنشاء شبكة تضم ممثلين عن كل المناطق ليتولوا مهمة جمع العينات – سواء من الشهداء مباشرة أو من الأشخاص الذين يقومون بجمعها- وحفظها إلى أن يتم جمع عدد كافٍ من العينات للبدء بالخطوة التالية في المشروع عمليًا”.

ويضع الناشطون سلسلة من التعليمات يجب على من يوّد القيام بتوثيق جثة، إتباعها بدقة. منها أنه “لا بد من ارتداء قفازات نظيفة قبل ملامسة الجثة، وتبديلها في حال الانتقال للتعامل مع جثة أخرى، وفي حال عدم توفر القفازات يجب غسل الايدي جيدًا بالماء والصابون قبل وبعد ملامسة الجثة”.

الخطوة الثانية تتلخص “بوضع كمامة على الأنف والفم حتى لا تختلط العينة بهواء التنفس، في حال عدم توفر الكمامات، لا بد من الحرص على كتم الانفاس أثناء التعامل مع العينة”.

وتبدأ عملية الحصول على العينة باقتلاع بضع شعرات (10 – 15) جافة ونظيفة من رأس الشهيد ولحيته، ومع التأكد من اقتلاع جذور الشعر معها، ثم التأكد من عدم لمس جذر الشعرة كي لا يتلوث أو يتلف.

بعد ذلك تقص قطعة من ثياب الشهيد المخضبة بدمائه، وحفظها بعد التأكد من جفافها بشكل تام.

وفي حال تعرض جثة الشهيد للحرق تقلع أربع أسنان على الأقل، ويفضل أن تكون من الأضراس الخلفية. وفي حال تعذر ذلك يمكن الاستفادة من قطعة من عظام الشهيد، كعظم العضد، لكن مع التأكد من تجريد العظم من أي نسيج آخر عالق به -كالعضلات- قبل حفظه.

فور الحصول على العينات يتم حفظ كل منها في كيس ورقي منفصل، والتأكد من إغلاقه جيدًا بالشريط اللاصق، ثم حفظ الأكياس في مكان جاف وبدرجة حرارة الغرفة.

يحظر استعمال الأكياس البلاستيكية لأنها كفيلة بإتلاف العينة. كما يجب عدم حفظ العينات في الأماكن الرطبة أو الحارة أو المعرضة لأشعة الشمس المباشرة. وبعد إنهاء عملية أخذ العينات تلتقط صورتان أمامية وجانبية لوجه الضحية. وتدون بعض المعلومات على الأكياس الورقية: عمر الشهيد التقريبي والجنس والطول التقريبي ولون الشعر ولون البشرة اذا كانت الجثة بحالة جيدة ولم تتفسخ بعد. كما تسجل أية علامة ولادية مميزة كالوحمات ومكان وجودها إضافة إلى تسجيل تاريخ دفن الجثة ومكان دفنها حتى يسهل الرجوع إليها مستقبلًا في حال تطلب الأمر.

ولا بد من الحرص على حفظ العينات والوثائق الخاصة بكل شهيد في مكان واحد، وإبقائها إلى حين الإعلان عن تسليمها لأحد أعضاء هيئة توثيق الشهداء المجهولين في المنطقة التي يقيم فيها المولج القيام بهذه العملية.

October 12th, 2012, 6:34 pm

 

Tara said:

Let me guess, the CHP is mostly Alevi? And that is why they worship Batta even during their weddings?

Syria row hits Assembly
ANKARA

Turkish Parliament rejected a motion to censure Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu in a tense session Oct. 12 in which the opposition harshly criticized Turkey’s Syria policy. 

Davutoğlu rebuffed accusations that Turkey was following a sectarian policy on Syria that favored Sunnis after the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) submitted the censure motion.

The CHP decided to submit the censure motion against Davutoğlu last month after allegations surfaced that Syrian rebel soldiers were being trained in Turkish territory. The Foreign Ministry said the Apaydın refugee camp near Hatay was hosting Syrian soldiers who had defected, but denied training claims.
….

The foreign minister harshly criticized CHP leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu for his severe rhetoric. Kılıçdaroğlu recently called Davutoğlu an “idiot” during a speech in a CHP parliamentary group meeting. Davutoğlu said he would not use the same language as Kılıçdaroğlu had, but that he would file a lawsuit against the CHP leader on charges of libel.

“I will file libel suit against Kılıçdaroğlu for the highest compensation. I will donate this compensation to Syrian children who lost their fathers to the bombs of Bashar al-Assad,” Davutoğlu said.

Davutoğlu also responded to the opposition’s accusation that he was favoring Sunnis in Syria’s crisis in his recent suggestion that Syrian Vice President Farouq al-Shara would be an acceptable official to replace President Bashar al-Assad.

The minister said he had suggested al-Shara to replace al-Assad for a “transitional period” in Syria.

“I suggested Farouq al-Shara as the [leader of] a transitional period in Syria, because he is an experienced figure [in the Syrian regime] and he has no blood on his hands. My suggestion is only for a transitional period. We, as a party who signed the Geneva deal, are discussing with the U.S. and Russia about possible figures who can play a role in this transitional period. Al-Shara’s sect is not important, and we don’t interfere in the administrative matters of other countries. [My suggestion] is only for a transitional period,” Davutoğlu said. 
… 
The motion was rejected with AKP and MHP votes.
October/13/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-row-hits-assembly.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32346&NewsCatID=338

October 12th, 2012, 7:02 pm

 

Observer said:

Today in the ZOO called Somaria Alathad it was not a good day. Bases falling to the rebels, more than 300 prisoners, several dead, offensives blocked, but after my daily visits to RT, Alalam Press Manar Mayadden and Ikhbaria and Addounia and SANA i see that the Prethident has issued a decree punishing those that hook their electricity to the grid and steal without paying the cost.

How gratifying to see that he is in full command of his faculties.

But wait, he is conducting the military operations wearing Jim Maui sun glasses and flipping pages on his iPad. Oh my oh my we should be afraid now, very afraid, and Turkey’s Erdogan is going to go into a panic attack and the FSA is wailing as they look at this dashing figure of a military commander ready to conquer them and “cleanse the country of mercenaries”

October 12th, 2012, 7:31 pm

 

ann said:

Syria Complains to UNSC on Turkey Cross Border Firing, Speaks on Plane Grounding

By Matthew Russell Lee

UNITED NATIONS, October 11 — Syria through its Permanent Representative Bashar Ja’afari on Thursday morning filed a complaint with the UN Security Council about Turkey’s cross border firing.

Ja’afari told Inner City Press the firing is hostile and provocative, and a joint body with Turkey should be set up to investigate and stop the escalation.

Inner City Press asked about the airliner grounded in Turkey. Ja’afari said Turkish jets forced it to the ground, despite the pilot indicating he would obey and cooperate. The passengers were kept without water for eight hours, Ja’afari added.

Would a complaint be filed with the International Civil Aviation Organization? They don’t care, Ja’afari said, heading up from the basement where the Security Council meets for now. Upstairs the “post Qatar” General Assembly was meeting about its own revitalization.

There, Inner City Press was told of a bilateral inquiry by Russia with Turkey about the grounding. One waits to hear from Turkish Permanent Representative Apakan.

Inner City Press asked Security Council president Gert Rosenthal earlier this week if there had been any follow up on last week’s Presidential Statement calling on restraint by both Syria and Turkey. Nothing since Friday [October 5], Rosenthal replied. Well, now there is a new filing.

[…]

http://www.innercitypress.com/syria3turkplane101112.html

October 12th, 2012, 7:38 pm

 

ann said:

No weapons on Syrian plane grounded by Turkey – Lavrov – 12 October, 2012

http://rt.com/news/syria-plane-turkey-lavrov-291/

Russia’s foreign minister claimed the Syrian passenger plane Turkey diverted on Wednesday was carrying radar parts, not munitions. The confiscated cargo was being transported legally, Sergey Lavrov said Friday.

“We have no secrets,” Lavrov told reporters. “There were, of course, no weapons on the plane and could not have been any. There was a cargo on the plane that a legal Russian supplier was sending in a legal way to a legal customer.”

Lavrov said the supplier will demand the cargo be returned which is their property.

“We are awaiting an official reply why our diplomats were not allowed to meet the Russian passengers on board,” stressed the Russian FM.

The announcement came in response to a Thursday statement made by Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan alleging that the Syrian Air jet was transporting Russian-made munitions for the Syrian Defense Ministry.

“It is absolutely clear who sent the cargo and who was going to receive it. This was munitions from the Russian equivalent of our Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation being sent to the Syrian Defense Ministry,” Erdogan said.

Turkey diverted the passenger plane en route to Damascus from Moscow on Wednesday as it entered Turkish airspace, forcing it to land in Ankara and open its cargo to inspection.

“The pilot made the decision to land [in Ankara] as he knew he was not transporting anything illegal,” Lavrov remarked Friday.

The Russian FM said Turkey offered the pilot the option to either turn back to Russia or land in Turkey for inspection. Earlier, however, the crew had been reported to have received no warning from Ankara, which allegedly dispatched F-16 jet fighters with no questions asked.

After around nine hours at the Turkish airport, with passengers barred from leaving the plane, some items from the cargo hold were confiscated and the jet was allowed to continue on to Damascus.

Moscow criticized Turkey for endangering the lives of the flight’s 35 passengers by dispatching F-16s to force the plane to land, and demanded to know why Russian diplomats and doctors were not allowed to meet the 17 Russian nationals on board.

Witnesses also told RT that Turkish officials had demanded people on board sign papers stating that the jet had made an emergency landing. Guards are reported to have beated up a crew member and several passengers who refused.

Syria labeled the incident “Ottoman air piracy”.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/syria-plane-turkey-lavrov-291/

October 12th, 2012, 7:46 pm

 

ann said:

Turkey deploys fighter jets to Syria border after frontier village allegedly bombed – reports – 12 October, 2012

http://rt.com/news/turkey-jets-syria-border-271/

According to witnesses, Turkey scrambled two fighter jets to the Syrian border in response to an army helicopter bombing the Syrian border town of Azmarin, Reuters reported.

Fighting between the Syrian government and rebels recently erupted in Azmarin, with several refugees fleeing the violence by crossing the border into Turkey yesterday. The town is approximately one kilometer from the Turkish border.

Tensions between Ankara and Damascus have run high following a brief cross-border shelling attack last week, and after Turkey grounded a Syrian commercial jet en route from Moscow to Damascus on Wednesday over suspicions the plane was carrying illegal cargo.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Ergodan alleged that the Moscow-to-Damascus commercial flight diverted to Ankara on Wednesday was carrying munitions for the Syrian army.

“It is absolutely clear who sent the cargo and who was going to receive it. This was munitions from the Russian equivalent of our Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation being sent to the Syrian Defense Ministry,” Erdogan told journalists, referring to the state-run Turkish manufacturer that supplies the country’s army.

“The examination [of the seized cargo] is continuing and the necessary will follow,” Erdogan said.

Syria accused Ankara of ‘air piracy,’ and insisted that none of the plane’s cargo was illegal.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said it has not received an explanation from Turkey detailing the plane’s cargo and its seizure. Moscow slammed Turkey for sending F-16s fighter jets to force the plane to land, endangering the lives of the flight’s 35 passengers.

Russian diplomats and doctors were also not allowed to meet the 17 Russian nationals on board the plane, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Aleksandr Lukashevich said. Moreover, as the cargo was being inspected, the passengers were forced to spend nine hours on the plane, and no food was provided.

The incident came as the UN Security Council and NATO urged Turkey and Syria not to further escalate tensions. German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle will represent NATO in a visit to Ankara, Turkey, on Saturday in an attempt to defuse the standoff.

“It is important that no one succumb to provocation and that we continue working on a new democratic start in Syria,” said Westerwelle. “It is important that no one pours oil on the fire. We are counting on moderation and de-escalation.”

Turkey has recently increased its military deployments on the Syrian border, including with tanks and F-16 fighter jets. Hürriyet Daily News reported Friday that Ankara has amassed around 250 tanks and 55 jets of various models along the volatile border with its Arab neighbor. Meanwhile, the Turkey’s troops have been put on high alert.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/turkey-jets-syria-border-271/

October 12th, 2012, 7:50 pm

 

ann said:

Israeli PM denies accepting Golan withdrawal initiative – 2012-10-13

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-10/13/c_123817564.htm

JERUSALEM, Oct. 12 (Xinhua) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Friday denied a media report that he had accepted an American initiative in 2010 to return the Israel-annexed Golan Heights to Syria in exchange for Syria’s abandonment of its alliance with Iran and Hezbollah.

Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot revealed Friday morning the existence of secret contacts between Israel and Syria that started in December 2010 but were later abandoned by Israel in March 2011 after the insurgence intensified in Syria.

According to the report, indirect talks were undertaken by U.S. envoys Dennis Ross and Fred Hoff, who passed messages between the two sides.

The report said Netanyahu agreed to withdraw from the entire Golan Heights and return to the June 4, 1967 lines. A source who was intimately involved in the talks was quoted as saying that Netanyahu expressed willingness to discuss the Syrian demand for a full Israeli withdrawal, on the condition that Damascus agrees to break away from its military alliance with Iran and Hezbollah and stop supporting Palestinian militant groups.

“This was one initiative of many that have been proposed to Israel in recent years. At no stage did Israel accept this American initiative,” Netanyahu’s office said in a statement, “The initiative is old and irrelevant, and its current publication stems from political considerations.”

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-10/13/c_123817564.htm

October 12th, 2012, 7:54 pm

 

zoo said:

Honey Morsi is over? Episode 2 of “The Moslem Brotherhood Gang”

http://news.yahoo.com/backers-critics-egypt-president-clash-cairo-164003350.html

CAIRO (AP) — Thousands of supporters and opponents of Egypt’s new Islamist president clashed in Cairo’s Tahrir Square on Friday in the first such violence since Mohammed Morsi took office more than three months ago, as liberal and secular activists erupted with anger accusing the Muslim Brotherhood of trying to take over the country.

The two sides hurled stones and chunks of concrete and beat each other with sticks for several hours, leaving more than 100 injured, according to the state news agency. Two buses used by the Brotherhood to bring in supporters were set aflame behind the Egyptian Museum, the repository of the country’s pharaonic antiquities, and thick black smoke billowed into the sky in scenes reminiscent of last year’s clashes between protesters against the regime of then-leader Hosni Mubarak and his backers.

The melee erupted between two competing rallies in Tahrir. One was by liberal and secular activists to criticize Morsi’s failure to achieve promises he had made for first 100 days in power, the other had been called by Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood.

The clashes come as criticism among leftists, liberals and secularists against Morsi has been growing since he was inaugurated more than three months ago as Egypt’s first freely elected president. Opponents accuse Morsi, the Brotherhood and other Islamists of trying to impose their dominance and Islamize the state, including through the writing of a new constitution.

Some Egyptians are also frustrated that Morsi, a longtime Brotherhood figure, has not done more to resolve the multiple problems facing the country — from a faltering economy and fuel shortages to tenuous security and uncollected piles of garbage in the streets.

October 12th, 2012, 8:20 pm

 

zoo said:

Turkey-Syria Conflict Escalation: Strategic Perspectives – Analysis

October 11, 2012
By Dr. Subhash Kapila
http://www.eurasiareview.com/11102012-turkey-syria-conflict-escalation-strategic-perspectives-analysis/

Joshua Landis, Director, Center for Middle East Studies:

“Turkey is trapped between national honour and national interest, the national honour required that Erdogan responded in some way that shows toughness and resolve and would intimidate the Syrians from further actions across the border. On the other hand, the national interest is to stay out of Syria. Syria is a political Vietnam for Turkey, it’s a swamp. It could suck Turkey in and cost Erdogan a great deal” –

October 12th, 2012, 8:25 pm

 

Johannes de Silentio said:

185 VAT

“evil agent of Satan, nazi-like descendant of Mongolian rejects”

Stop soft-pedaling, VATTY. Tell us what you really think.

October 12th, 2012, 8:29 pm

 

zoo said:

Aoun: Syria Is Actually Heading towards Democracy unlike Arab Countries which Toppled Governments

Oct 12, 2012

BEIRUT, (SANA)- Leader of the Change and Reform Bloc in Lebanon, Michel Aoun, stressed that Syria will achieve victory over the conspiracy and will turn into a democratic state that will be a model for the rest of the countries currently fighting it.

In an interview with the Syrian TV, Aoun affirmed that Syria will not fall down and will win the war waged on it by the conspiring countries, reiterating that Syria is actually heading towards democracy unlike the Arab countries which toppled their governments and is the closest to democracy from any other Arab country.

He said Syria will put an end to the radical extremist surge in the region and its win of the war would result in a new world order as the U.S. unilateralism is no longer acceptable.

Aoun emphasized that despite the painful human and big economic losses, Syria’s steadfastness in the face of the conspiracy has been very strong, highlighting that the administrative, judicial and military structure of the country has not been affected by the crisis.

He said Syria constitutes an advanced model of humanity with all its social components and it has always worked steadfastly in the face of Israel, “which stresses that it is impossible to bring it down.”

He considered that what is happening in the region is not an ‘Arab Spring’ but rather an ‘Arab Hell’ that was planned in advance in the context of the ‘creative chaos’ declared by U.S. Secretary of State in 2006 that is aimed at establishing a ‘New Middle East’ based on making peoples fight each other.

Aoun said when peoples want new governments they aspire for the best, but what happened was that the new governments have leaped backward and not forward.

He highlighted how the freedom of belief and choice of social lifestyle is being practiced in Syria, while other Arab countries are imposing the way of eating, drinking and dressing.

He also referred to the amendment of the Syrian constitution and the launching of political and party pluralism and journalistic freedoms, noting if that was the opposition’s goal, it would have come to dialogue and waited for the next presidential elections so as for the Syrian people to decide their leader through the ballot boxes.

He reiterated that the leadership in Syria is the one defending democracy while the Western countries want to overthrow this leadership by force completely ignoring the Syrian people’s desire.

Aoun stressed that the security of Syria is Lebanon’s security, noting that the real meaning of the policy of self-distancing adopted by the Lebanese government is for this government to keep away from taking sides and keep its people away from carrying out acts of riot in the neighboring countries.

October 12th, 2012, 8:40 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo

“Michel Aoun, stressed that Syria will … turn into a democratic state that will be a model for the rest of the countries ..”

Someone should ask Aoun to shut up.    This is laughable.

October 12th, 2012, 8:52 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither begets nor is begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

After two years and with less than a month in office, Hillary Clinton finally gets it.

But what is she going to do about it?

I would rather see Mitt Romney and his team doing what needs to be done. These Dems have proven once and again to be dullards.

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/cd27148a-3c81-4ae0-a5d9-1bd900655676?GoogleStatID=1

October 12th, 2012, 9:14 pm

 

Observer said:

Why is Lavrov talking about the Syrian plane? Why does he need to explain anything on behalf of the regime? Is it because he was caught with his pants down shipping equipment to the regime? How come all of a sudden Freddo adoring fans are so concerned about the bathroom time allocated to the passengers on board the plane? It had a mere 35 passengers and of whom 17 were Russian, no doubt technicians sent to install the radar component.

Now we hear Putin has called his national security team for consultation regarding Syria. Is he going to go to war with Turkey and hence NATO? Or is he dressing them down to find out how the secrets were breached?

WHy are the Iranians and the Qataris and Brahimi and the Saudi intelligence chief meeting in Qatar? Is it to prepare the ground for the day after?

ZOO please enlighten us with your superb analysis of the huge difficulties Erdogan is in as if your Freddo is on the beach playing with his iPad watching some “pictures” of his adoring fans to feed his fantasis while the Rose is shopping on line.

It turns out these are the worst of the worst nouveaux riches who think that they are modern while living in the garbage dump called Somaria Alathad.

Cheers

October 12th, 2012, 10:10 pm

 

Observer said:

Here is the news and as I read between the lines my dear Majbali and ZOO and SNK and others there is panic in the air:

Read the whole news from this most pro regime site and tell me if there is one ounce of good news today

http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/9129

October 12th, 2012, 10:15 pm

 
 

ann said:

167. ZOO .. 😉

We need to be mindful of those PESKY FAT, DONKEY SMELLING and BACKWARD “NOVO RICH” PEASANTS ..

October 13th, 2012, 12:15 am

 
 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

The criminal Assadist so-called army is on the verge of collapse suffering from deteriorating morale and low self-esteem according to testimonies of some 400 released soldiers that were in captivity in the hands of the FSA,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/4d28bb17-c92f-4aa7-8b0e-85d7ad475bbc?GoogleStatID=9

The released soldiers come from all over Syria.

October 13th, 2012, 1:42 am

 

Syrialover said:

JUERGEN #202

My heroes! They lift my mood.

Thank you.

October 13th, 2012, 2:00 am

 

Syrialover said:

OBSERVER (#198),

Yes, it’s bizarre isn’t it to see ZOO, SNK and co. in a lather of outrage that 35 people on that aircraft could have been in some sort of remote danger from the intercept and then had to wait a few hours on the tarmac. Acting like they deeply care and hope to get others here to join them in their rage.

In contrast, they are callously indifferent to the real danger and suffering being endured by millions of ordinary Syrians.

But they are also curiously disloyal to their co-supporters of the Assad regime inside Syria.

Why don’t they worry more about them?

October 13th, 2012, 2:43 am

 

Ghufran said:

Mehmet Ali Birand:
Let’s not forget that al-Assad would benefit a lot from a possible war, even if it erupted accidentally.
He may be able to unite his people against the invader, Turkey. He will then easily crush his opponents. He will be able to increase the support of Iran and Russia. He will guarantee his power.
Turkey would win the war, but it would incur more damage than al-Assad. The economy of the country would be hugely impacted and stability would be destroyed.
( Syria’s crisis reached the divided Turkish parliament which voted down a proposition to censure Oglu for his Syria policy)

October 13th, 2012, 2:44 am

 

annie said:

196. Tara said:

Zoo

“Michel Aoun, stressed that Syria will … turn into a democratic state that will be a model for the rest of the countries ..”

Someone should ask Aoun to shut up. This is laughable.

Someone should give him a check up; dementia ?

October 13th, 2012, 2:57 am

 

zoo said:

#199 Observer

The sign of panic is when someone invokes God repeatedly.

October 13th, 2012, 8:11 am

 

Tara said:

The cowards want to talk now.  The first lesson Hafiz should have taught Batta, that no room for a half-man among real men  

http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-agrees-to-direct-talks-as-turkey-mobilises-tanks

Syria agrees to direct talks as Turkey mobilises tanks

More tanks were deployed on the Turkish side of the border today alongside anti-missile launchers assembled after artillery shelling killed five in a Turkish village last week. Fighting has also spilled over its borders into Lebanon, Jordan and the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, stoking fears that the Syrian civil conflict could drag other countries into a regional war.

In an effort to lower the temperature, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested on 10 October that the best way to resolve the conflict with Ankara would be through direct contact between Syrian and Turkish authorities.

“Syria welcomes Lavrov’s statement on the necessity to create a mechanism of direct dialogue on security issues between Syria and Turkey,” Syria’s foreign ministry said in a statement circulated by local media on Saturday.
..

October 13th, 2012, 8:14 am

 
 

Observer said:

The regime is welcoming the Russian proposal to have a contact with Turkey

But of course J’amuse Jaffari says we did not apologize but like all bullies when there is a hint of consequences to your bullying you run to Lavrov to help you fend off the blow coming your way: cowards. Here we have the news from non other than Cham Press

http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/9141

We welcome talking; we are not against the Turkish people; we are fighting mercenaries: we did not have weapons on the plane; Mr Lavrov Rajjab is bothering me please make him stop; we can talk now.

Arsonist Nouveau Riche Barbarian hiding behind Maui Jim Sun glasses

October 13th, 2012, 8:20 am

 

zoo said:

Mina

After the attack in Libya, a trustworthy friend of the US that helped it to kill Qaddafi, the USA is becoming very suspicious of the ‘moderate’ Islamists governement who are hesitant to fight against the islamists extremists for fear of loosing their grip on power.
This ambiguous attitude of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia vis a vis Al Qaeda and the Salafist is indicating that these countries are unreliable in the fight against Islamist extremists who, if they get more power and get geographically near are threatening Saudi Arabia and Israel.
The USA is now changing gear and maybe Saudi Arabia who deeply hate the MB would follow. It has been obvious that the Saudi are fed up with Qatar, Turkey and Egypt and the Brotherhood smell they abhore.
They killed Morsi’s quartet on Syria by missing all the meetings.

Saudi also realized that these countries who keep shouting are pathetically powerless and that only the big powers cam make a difference.

The USA is also alarmed by the Syrian opposition’s growing Brotherhood and Al Qaeeda’s role. They are gradually coming to the realization that the region would be more stable with a secular regime in Syria that will have a zero tolerance to Islamists extremists, instead of a supposedly ‘moderate’ Sunni government that would not fight effectively the Sunni extremists whose military intervention helped them get to power.

Syria-Turkey war escalation is calling for a ceasefire and a deal between the two countries. Turkey, isolated and overwhelmed, wants a deal that would stop the PKK from Syria in exchange for stopping the FSA and weapons traffic from Turkey.
Without Turkey military support and Saudi Arabia funding, the armed rebels will have no choice than to accept what they will be told to do. The only country still bellicose is Qatar, but I think it will swallow its defeat too.

October 13th, 2012, 9:08 am

 

zoo said:

Is the Moslem Brotherhood creating a Sunni Islamic empire in region ?

Will the Muslim Brotherhood Rule Jordan Next?

http://www.economist.com/node/21564595

The Brotherhood remains Jordan’s most disciplined as well as biggest political force. Seeking to hobble the protests, the authorities cancelled buses the Brotherhood had hired to ferry their people to the capital, stopped traffic miles from the rally, and broadcast that the police would let “counter-demonstrators”, official lingo for beltajiya (government thugs), stage a rival protest. Yet the event passed off peacefully.

Jordan’s Brotherhood may grow still more confident if its counterpart emerges strongly in next-door Syria and as Jordan’s middle class sees its prosperity shrink amid soaring prices. Membership of the oil-rich Gulf Co-operation Council, which Jordan was invited last year to join, in the hope that it would bring a panacea of wealth, has yet to materialise.

The king is running out of ideas as well as cash

October 13th, 2012, 9:26 am

 

Observer said:

The best joke of the day:

“Syria-Turkey war escalation is calling for a ceasefire and a deal between the two countries. Turkey, isolated and overwhelmed, wants a deal that would stop the PKK from Syria in exchange for stopping the FSA and weapons traffic from Turkey.”

Turkey overwhelmed hahahahahahahahahahahaha. This made my day

Arsonist Nouveau Riche Barbarian hiding behind Maui Jim Sun glasses

October 13th, 2012, 9:45 am

 

zoo said:

Isolated and cornered Erdogan…

Turkish PM accuses the international community of encouraging al-Assad

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pm-accuses-the-international-community-of-encouraging-al-assad.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32353&NewsCatID=338

The international community is practically giving a green light to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to kill hundreds of people every day in his country, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said today.

“So what is the source of this attitude? If we have to wait for what one or two of the perminant membes of the U.N. Security Council will say, then the consequences for Syria will be very dangerous,” Erdoğan told participants at the Istanbul World Forum earlier today.

Syria row hits Assembly

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-row-hits-assembly.aspx?pageID=238&nID=32346&NewsCatID=338

Syria’s crisis tops Parliament’s agenda, as the opposition fails to unseat FM Davutoğlu for allegedly helping train militants.

Turkish Parliament rejected a motion to censure Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu in a tense session Oct. 12 in which the opposition harshly criticized Turkey’s Syria policy.

October 13th, 2012, 9:46 am

 

zoo said:

What’s Driving Qatar’s Foreign Policy?

By Cecily Hilleary, VOA
http://www.payvand.com/news/12/oct/1104.html

All in all, Qatar’s investments across the globe are estimated at about $60 billion.

So what is Qatar up to? Is it just looking for sensible ways to invest its money? Or, is Qatar trying, as one commentator told VOA – only slightly in jest – to become the world’s next “superpower?”

“The war inside the Muslim world at the moment is between Salafi jihadis―or hardcore Wahhabis―financed, supported or with the sympathy of Saudi Arabia on the one side, and the Muslim Brotherhood supported by Qatar on the other,” Escobar told VOA. “The future foreign policy of Qatar is to propel, finance, encourage―you name it―the Muslim Brotherhood, all over the Middle East, from North Africa to the Middle East,” he said. It does so, says Escobar, through its Al Jazeera television network.

“And one of the most important figures at Al Jazeera TV,” Escobar said, “is Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi―he has a program on Shari’a law and connections between Shari’a law and everyday life.” He refers to ash-Shariah wal-Hayat, or “Shariah and Life,” a talk show that is watched by an estimated 60 million Muslims worldwide.

“Look at what has happened since the beginning of the Arab Spring. We have the Muslim Brotherhood capturing the presidency in Egypt. They have the prospect, if the Bashar Al-Assad government falls―which is not a given, of course―of being the major power in the post-Assad regime.”

In his recent commentary in Asia Times, Escobar suggested a second motive behind Qatar’s ambitions―a desire to squash a $10 billion deal between Iran, Iraq and Syria to pipe natural gas from the South Pars field, across Iraq and Syria, and into Europe―a deal that, in Escobar’s words, “would solidify a predominantly Shi’ite axis through an economic, steel umbilical cord.”

Instead, Escobar says Qatar wants to build its own pipeline “in a non-Shi’te crescent,” through Jordan and into the Mediterranean. Thus, it was these two interests– religious and economic, that drove Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani to call for Arab intervention in Syria at the UN General Assembly last month.

Agent for Peace

However, Frederic Wehrey, a senior associate in the Middle East Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, sees things quite differently.

“I think you have to look at Qatar’s foreign policy initiatives over the last half decade,” he said. “They’ve been throwing a punch above their weight. Their style is to really project power by presenting themselves as a mediator. And certainly, in the case of the Arab Spring, they are actively supporting change in the region. They’re doing this, I think, partly out of prestige, partly as a means to raise their profile within the GCC and to win the support of Western powers.”

Wehrey points out Qatar’s long history of diplomatic intervention: Doha worked to broker the 2008 ceasefire in Lebanon and to reconcile the two sides in Sudan’s civil war. He also cites Qatar’s outreach to Iran.

“I think in the case of Syria, it’s the Qataris wanting to shape the post-Assad outcome in a way that preserves their interests and gives them a bigger seat at the table than perhaps some of the other Arab powers,” he said. Wehrey admits that it would be in Qatar’s interest to see a more moderate form of Islam to prevail in a new Syria. He also suggests another motive in Qatar’s long-term strategy: Its rivalry with Saudi Arabia.

“The Qataris, I think, make a virtue of trying to upstage the Saudis on these regional initiatives, and I think that power rivalry has to be taken into account,” he said.

Whatever Qatar’s motives, Wehrey notes that efforts at “constructive engagement” can backfire. “We’ve seen that certainly in Libya, where the Qataris certainly engendered some good will because they sent their advisers, weapons and training during the war, but then afterwards, they were seen as meddling in Libyan politics.”

In the end, he says, the Qataris are finding out like everybody else that things have a way of boomeranging in the region.

October 13th, 2012, 9:57 am

 

Jasmine said:

 وما زالت سورية مزرعةً لها ……
الشركات العقارية الخليجية تشتري ما رخصته الأزمة بعد أن باعت ما غلّته بكذبها قبل الأزمة ؟
11/10/2012      

 دمشق – سيرياستيبس :

أن عدنا بالذاكرة العقارية إلى بداية عام 2001 لاحظنا أن هنالك العديد من الشركات العقارية خاصة الخليجية منها قد بدأت بالاتجاه إلى سوريا من حيث الدراسة لإمكانية الاستثمار في سوريا فلم تجد إلا السوق العقارية مرتعاً خصباً لها لما لهذه السوق في سوريا من تفرد اقتصادي ولما للسوق العقارية السورية خاصة في بعض المناطق من عوامل جذب للاستثمارات واستمرت القصة وقامت الشركات العقارية الخليجية خاصة بالدخول إلى السوق العقارية السورية مستعينة بمجموعة من الأشخاص كانوا في الواجهة حيث قام هؤلاء الأشخاص بشراء ألاف الهكتارات من الأراضي غير الصالحة لأي شي بأبخس الأسعار ثم أشاعوا أن هذه الأراضي ستتحول إلى مدن سكنية وشاليهات خاصة تصل أسعارها إلى الملايين .

استمرت هذه الشركات بذلك العمل حتى قبل الأزمة بأيام قليلة والأخطر من ذلك أنها مازالت مستمرة حتى بعد الأزمة وحتى الوقت الحالي وذلك بشكل سري غير معلن .

لاشك أن من ساهم بهذا الوضع هم المفكرون الاقتصاديون الجهابذة  في تلك الفترة والمقصود منذ العام 2005 وحتى العام 2011 والأخص بالذكر المستشار الاقتصادي عبد الله الدردري وجماعته حيث قاموا بتحويل سوريا إلى مزرعة لدول الخليج العربي وكانت كل شركة خاسرة في دول الخليج تأتي إلى سوريا فتلاقي الترحيب والتسهيلات التي لا تحلم بها في أي دولة من الدول حيث تقوم بشراء ما تشاء من الأراضي معفية من كافة الرسوم وتقدم إليها تسهيلات مصرفية وتسهيلات إدارية بدعوى أنها جذب للاستثمارات الخارجية إلى سوريا .

لنتذكر جميعاً أزمة الرهن العقاري التي طالت كل دول العالم ما عدا سوريا فحيث انخفضت أسعار العقارات في كل دول العالم كانت في سوريا مستقرة وتميل إلى الارتفاع.

نتيجة دراسة السوق العقارية من قبل المافيات العقارية الخارجية والخليجية خاصة وجدت في سوريا بيت الأمان لاستثماراتها العقارية والتي هي حقيقته تهدف في مجملها لعملية غسيل أموال ممنهجة ووجدت في الإعفاءات التي قدمتها الحكومة الرشيدة في تلك الفترة والمستشارين الاقتصاديين والنائب الاقتصادي الخاصرة الرخوة لدخول سوريا فأصبح أصغر موظف في إحدى الشركات الخليجية يدخل إلى رئيس مجلس الوزراء وكأنه يدخل إلى مكتبه .

لماذا وصلنا إلى هذه المرحلة في تلك الفترة :

كانت النظرة الاقتصادية فيما يسمى الاقتصاد الموجه تقوم على جذب الاستثمارات الخارجية وحلم النائب الاقتصادي الدكتور عبد الله الدردري بأن يحول سوريا إلى دبي أخرى دون الانتباه إلى أن سوريا تختلف عن أي دولة من دول الخليج العربي وخاصة في المجال العقاري .

فقامت الشركات الخليجية والقطرية بشراء مئات الآلاف من الهكتارات في غرب مدينة دمشق وخاصة في مناطق الصبورة والديماس والزبداني وبلودان وفي مناطق أغلبها حدودية سواء باسمها الشخصي كشركة أجنبية أو عن طريق سماسرة سوريين كانوا واجهة لها .

وقامت تلك الشركات بالترويج لمشاريع سياحية وسكنية واقتصادية داعبت بها أحلام السوريين في تأمين المساكن بأسعار كما قالوا بداية رخيصة واستمرت اللعبة بمشاركة من الفعاليات الاقتصادية في الحكومة وتم إصدار مجموعة من القوانين التي صدرت مفصلة على قياس شركات معينة وبمشاركة من تلك الشركات إن حتى بصياغتها القانونية بما فيها من تسهيلات وتفضيل للشركات الخليجية عن غيرها من الرأسمال الوطني وقامت تلك الشركات برفع أسعار العقارات في المناطق التي اشترت بها ما يسمى مشاريع عقارية فأصبح سعر المتر الواحد في تلك المنطقة عشرة ألاف ليرة سورية بعد أن كانت لا يتجاوز المئة ليرة سورية فقامت تلك الشركات بتحقيق أرباح وصلت إلى مليارات الدولارات من حساب المواطن السوري لأن فرق السعر قد ذهب إلى جيوب تلك الشركات لأنه بالنتيجة من قام بشراء تلك العقارات بعد ارتفاع أسعارها كان من المواطنين السوريين .

أتت الأزمة :وهنا نلاحظ الفرق بين الرأسمال الوطني والرأسمال الخليجي فمنذ بداية الأزمة أخذت تلك الشركات العقارية التي اعتبرها النائب الاقتصادي أمل سوريا في التطور والحداثة بسحب أرصدتها مع أرباحها وقامت ببيع جزء كبير من الأراضي التي اشترتها بأسعارها الجديدة العالية ثم قامت بإغلاق مكاتبها والهروب السريع من سوريا مخلفة فجوة في سوق العرض والطلب السوري فيما يتعلق بهذه النوعية من العقارات مما أدى لانخفاض أسعارها .

لم تنتهي اللعبة وعادت تلك الشركات نفسها وفي هذه الأوقات لتقوم عن طريق السماسرة والامعات بشراء ما أنخفض أسعاره من عقارات مرة أخرى محققة أرباحاً للمرة الثانية على حساب الشعب السوري وهي عالمة تماماً أن سوريا ستنتصر في معركتها وأن تلك العقارات ستتحول إلى في أشهر قليلة إلى مناجم للذهب لاستثمارها مرة أخرى سواء بالبناء أو للبيع والشراء .

نسأل هنا لماذا بيع الشاطئ السوري بكامله إلى تلك الشركات لماذا بيعت ألاف الهكتارات في مناطق إستراتيجية سياحية إلى تلك الشركات لماذا تم شراء ألاف الهكتارات على ما يسمى طريق السلام من قبل أشخاص هم واجهة لشركات عقارية قطرية حصراً بمباركة من الحكومة في تلك المرحلة وخاصة من أصحاب القرار الاقتصادي .

نسأل ونتمنى على المسؤولين الاقتصاديين الحاليين في الحكومة أن لا تخطؤا نفس الخطأ وأن لا تقعوا في نفس المطب ومن جرب المجرب كان عقله مخرب وليس رعاة الإبل والغنم من نحتاجهم لبناء سوريا من جديد

  بقلم  الدكتور عمار يوسف – الباحث في الاقتصاد العقاري

October 13th, 2012, 10:06 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

@142 SKUNK (AKA SNK)said:

Shiek yakobi missed the Noble for physics by 2 days.If he will give his theory about
تحليل اللواط من اجل ادخال المتفجرات في الدبر

And with your hormone crazed hate-filled filthy mind, you simply missed the Nobel prize for literature by a specie

October 13th, 2012, 10:42 am

 

Ghufran said:

دعا وزير الدولة القطري للشؤون الخارجية خالد بن محمد العطية، يوم الجمعة، منظمة الأمم المتحدة للموافقة على إمداد المعارضة السورية بالسلاح والمال، بالإضافة إلى النظر في مسألة فرض منطقة حظر طيران في الأجواء السورية لحماية المدنيين.
وقال العيطة في تصريحات صحفية أنه على “الامم المتحدة دعم المعارضة السورية بالسلاح والمال، والنظر في مسألة فرض حظر طيران”، نافياً قيام بلاده “بإمداد المعارضة السورية في الوقت الراهن بالمال أو السلاح”.

October 13th, 2012, 12:05 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I decided not to share the following yesterday but I’ll do so as I think it’s important. The article posted above (#184 Visitor) makes simliar points.

An author on Yalla Souriya made some observations. It’s not long (also see comments in response):

‘One major significance of the battle for Maarat Al Numan is that in such a major battle the most heavily armed force, and the one with air power should win overwhelmingly.

Instead the FSA gained the victory.

It is also worth noting that the regime was unable to offer any effective tactical air support to its ground forces. While its air force is evidently effective at killing and terrorizing large numbers of civilians and creating widespread destruction, it is also clear that it is incapable of substantially affecting the course of combat on the ground.’

Read more:

http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/one-major-significance-of-the-battle-for-maarat/

October 13th, 2012, 12:09 pm

 

Citizen said:

‘Washington, Tel Aviv seek Syria war’
Israel and the US, led by presidential election candidate Mitt Romney who is subservient to “rabid war-hawk Zionists” seek to wage war in Syria even if it would cause World War III, says an analyst.

Interview with Randy Short, member of the Dignity, Human Rights and Peace Organization

October 13th, 2012, 12:21 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

NMSyria ‏@NMSyria

Official count. 61 fighter jets belonging to the regime have been destroyed by the #FSA in the last 7 months. All confirmed. #Syria

Of these 61 fighter jets, 40 of them were destroyed while actively bombing cities in #Syria. The other 21 were destroyed inside airport.

http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/nmsyria-%e2%80%8fnmsyria-official-count-61-fighter-jets-belonging/

October 13th, 2012, 12:31 pm

 

Citizen said:

182. SYRIALOVER
205. SYRIALOVER SAID:
My heroes! They lift my mood!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it your job? on your neck?
http://rt.com/news/journalist-missing-syria-kidnapped-352/
A 40-year-old Ukrainian journalist missing in Syria

October 13th, 2012, 12:45 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called Saturday for reform to the UN Security Council to allow progress to resolve the Syria crisis which has been held up by veto powers Russia and China.
__________________________________________________________________
Reform to the UNSC!. YO قرد قردوغان شبحوووو, Erdogan, you want to take the rights of other nations that are bigger than your god ALLAH. They are not supposed to have sovereignty, rights or interests? They are supposing to have neither economic, nor strategic or defense interests to protect. Just Turkey, Qatar and Bedouin Jews in Arabia should have those rights. Do you read Arabic, if not; have someone translate this for you:

صار للخرا مرأ ة وصار يحلف بالطلآق

Did you Erdogan stop for a minute and realize that the strategies, means and actors you used are a failure, that you are like King Abdullah, or should I say AbduYahud, or that other fatso, Qatari Anza buffoon, are all really dumber than a عنزة

We are approaching 2 years, 40,000 Syrians murdered by your stupidity, the entire country leveled and it is your ignorance that caused all of this destruction. Yet, you are as far from your goals now, as the very day you dumbf***k trio started.

Do you see a light at the end of this tunnel you helped create? No intelligent human can see it. Only inflated buffoons with dementia, schizophrenia and acute delusional syndrome see a light at the end from this point.

Serving the Zionist dream, that is the entire purpose of Islam, that is all Moslems are enslaved and programmed to do from the day they recite the shahada. Otherwise, they would be freeing Pakistan, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Turkey, Azerbijan, Khsakhstan, Brunei, Indonesia, Arabia and Palestine of Zionist rulers, not aiding and abetting them.

You are like your religion, god HUBAL, and his charlatan “PROFIT” who fabricated this whole crap with Amen his son Nabu help, are deceivers goyying after one Sourat you read called AL ANFAL. Nothing more and found the same minded people in Moslem Brotherhoods and Lebanon Thieves Hariri gang to help you in that obsession the Syrian ANFAL. اللأنفال

MUST READ:
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god-hubal.htm

NABU= Nabuchadnezzar , Nabulus, Amen=Omen=Amin= Ammon= Amman.

The 2 steles that stood in front of Amen/Marduk Karnack Temple in Luxor, one still standing, the other were erected by the Rockefeller in N.Y.Central Park. When the Hexos/Habiru/Hebrew or now called Jews evicted by revolutionary Egyptians under command of Akhenaton, Amen fled to Babylon and became Marduk, His son Nabu, stayed in Nabulus. The Habirus, who genocidally murdered the Canaanites on command of Amen and stole their land attempted to erect yet another set of Stella called Boaz and Joachim, they never made it, and were expelled out of the land. The steles became the minerates, except now we have the new religion, or new world order called Islam (Islam meaning is surrender to Amen and his kids SIN (the moon god) and NABU).

Why a mosque would require 2 minarets, why would it even require a minarets period, in age of powered speakers. It is his symbol of domination of land by Amen that is all.

http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/cot/t1w11kabaa.htm

October 13th, 2012, 1:19 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Al Arabiya opinion piece regarding the ‘leaked’ documents.

An apology on behalf of Al Arabiya
By Faisal J. Abbas

Saturday, 13 October 2012

[…]

The fact is many of the things mentioned in our documents were already known to many people; however, we still did what we can to verify what was in them and didn’t take their content for granted.
Yet, this didn’t seem enough for a particular ‘Angry Arab’.

I am of course referring to the comments made by California-based professor As’ad AbuKhalil, who in a recent blog post for the Lebanon-based ‘Al-Akhbar English’ attacked the credibility and ownership our channel as well as one of our most prominent and respected presenters, Giselle Khoury.

Read more:

http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2012/10/13/243404.html

October 13th, 2012, 1:31 pm

 

SyrianPatriot said:

احراق الجامع الاموي بحلب من قبل قوات النظام

http://youtu.be/nDMjg8BAOms

saddest think i have seen today

October 13th, 2012, 1:31 pm

 

Citizen said:

MP: Zionists Buying Turkey’s Bordering Areas with Syria
TEHRAN (FNA)- Zionists have bought half of Turkey’s bordering areas with Syria in Hatay province, a senior Turkish legislator revealed, warning that the move has posed a great danger to his country’s national security.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107112380

October 13th, 2012, 1:32 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Our most noble Free Syrian Army of the revolution continues to make advances and to inflict losses on the criminal regime.

The FSA heroes captured today the military base in the Damascus suburb after 3 days of fighting with the criminal terrorist thugs of the murderous regime,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/13/243548.html

The valiant and victorious FSA also captured large cache of heavy weapons from the base that will certainly be put to use in demolishing the terrorist criminal regime.

In addition, the heroic Free Syrian Army continues to make advances in several towns of the Idlib region, and is preparing to exterminate the invading heretics of the hizbillat.

October 13th, 2012, 1:35 pm

 

Citizen said:

CHRIS !
Without Asking Congress, Obama Puts U.S. Troops on Syria Border

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/13189-without-asking-congress-obama-puts-us-troops-on-syria-border

The Obama administration has now publicly announced that it deployed U.S. troops near the Syrian border in neighboring Jordan without ever seeking congressional permission, supposedly in an effort to help the Jordanian government deal with refugees from Syria while ensuring that the civil war does not spill over into the broader region. Concerns about chemical and biological weapons falling into the “wrong hands” were also cited to justify the latest deployment, but some lawmakers are upset, warning that the U.S. is now even closer to overt military intervention in Syria….

October 13th, 2012, 1:41 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

Heathen Moslem “Kuffar” in Turkey, claim deceptively to be Moslems. I am surprised they don’t demand the reciting of Al Anfal rather than Shahada to be a Turkish Moslem.

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34010
http://aegeanblue.org/photos/adana.jpg

October 13th, 2012, 1:42 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Is it true 90% of Turkey’s Generals are Alavite?

The quote in the following post is taken from the video (after 3min).

http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=289841#p289841

October 13th, 2012, 2:29 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

The Rothschild’s are the most ardent Zionists, not only they stole the name of Israel and founded it on stolen land from Paliothugs, they practically own Israel. The Symbol of the family is 5 Arrows, just as Hubal (Allah) was purported to have displayed. Islam was invented to help Zionists bring in the New World Order. Shia Moslems are the fifth column of Zionism, embedded into Islam by design. The symbolism, tells the whole story, when you peel off the fake and diversion, you find the source, but that source and its intent only become obvious to the learned person, when you free your mind of slave control and learn the truth.

The Rothschild’s crest:
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.gif

Hubal Symbol is crescent with the Star of David enshrined at the crescent narrow ends meeting. Note: the Star of David, actually ol’Dave never existed, this is the star of alien race of invaders.

Amos 5: 25-27

25 “Did you offer Me sacrifices and offerings
In the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
26 You also carried Sikkuth your king
And Chiun, your idols,
The star of your gods,
Which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into captivity beyond Damascus,”
Says the Lord, whose name is the God of hosts.

This chapter mentions Judah being punished earlier on…what is the only “star” Judah has ever claimed? The Star of “David”! It’s the symbol for Sikkuth and Kyuun.

http://www.godshammer.com/Islam02.jpg

WAKE UP, WISE UP, GROW UP……Every ignorant human is a threat to humanity future.

October 13th, 2012, 2:30 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A lengthy article. Worth a read. Left out some quotes I wanted to use due to keeping the copy’n paste short.

Syrian economy faces “heart failure”
October 11th, 2012

Syria’s deputy prime minister and minister of trade declared this week that the country’s economy would suffer “heart failure” if the crisis that has been sweeping the country over the last 18 months continues for another three months, reports Bassel Oudat. “There is no solution except a political one, and without it there will be no economic, security or military resolution,” he said.

“We have entered into a crisis without calculating the repercussions of the European and US sanctions,” the minister said on Syrian television. “We import half our consumption of diesel fuel. The situation today is much worse than it was one month ago, when no one imagined that humanitarian conditions would deteriorate so badly in some regions of Syria.”

The minister added that economic solutions alone would not succeed because military and security factors were the deciding factors. “The economy and production are collapsing, and there is no liquidity, indicated by the drop in value of the Syrian lira in comparison to the Euro and dollar. If the crisis continues, Syria’s economy will have a heart attack,” he said.

The minister, appointed only two months ago, said there was a crisis of transportation and fuel in Syria as corruption and smuggling spread, along with the other problems that ail the Syrian economy.

However, despite these statements it seems that the Syrian government as a whole is in denial about an economic meltdown. The prime minister denied there were economic problems and asserted that the crisis was “in its last phase thanks to citizens’ support for the leadership and the work of the armed forces.”

Read more:

http://www.albawaba.com/business/syria-economy-446006

October 13th, 2012, 2:38 pm

 

Tara said:

http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/12392/as-shiite-crescent-recedes-irans-power-wanes

As Shiite Crescent Recedes, Iran’s Power Wanes
By Zachary Keck, on 04 Oct 2012, Briefing

The concept of a Shiite Crescent was predicated on an unbroken chain of Iranian influence stretching into the heart of the Middle East via Iraq and Syria, and continuing on to the Levant and Palestine through Tehran’s ties to Hezbollah and Hamas. Given its location, Syria was always the lynchpin of this crescent. The loss of a friendly government in Damascus would deny Iran an overland route to ferry supplies to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran’s only option would then be to supply Hezbollah by sea, a perilous course given that the waters in between are dominated by Tehran’s adversaries.

Even if the Syrian rebels fail to topple the Assad regime, prolonged conflict will be an enormous resource drain on Iran and Hezbollah, and the continuing chaos will make Syria unsuitable as a transit route for supplies. In either scenario, then, Iran’s aid to Hezbollah is set to steadily decline.
….
Additionally, the Arab Spring has significantly curtailed Iranian influence in Palestine by straining Iran’s relationship with Hamas, likely irreversibly. The relationship between Tehran and Hamas, a Sunni group, was always built more on mutual necessity than on any sort of affinity. The Arab Spring has reoriented the strategic landscape for Hamas, allowing it to use the new Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt and Turkey’s greater involvement in the region to pivot away from Iran. In this sense, the Hamas-Iranian spat over Syria has only accelerated their likely estrangement.
..
Iran’s economic outlook remains dim for the foreseeable future, in part due to the Western sanctions on its energy, shipping and banking sectors. According to recent estimates, sanctions have already caused Iran’s oil exports to decline by 45 percent on the year and reduced the value of its currency, the rial, by 80 percent relative to the dollar, including an incredible 40 percent drop in the past week alone.
….
Finally, Iran’s regional position has suffered due to the greater pushback it is encountering from regional and extraregional states. Some of this was inevitable given the anxiety Iran’s post-2003 rise caused among the Arab states, Israel and the U.S. Nonetheless, Iran’s own policies have only added to its troubles. In particular, threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of the global oil supplies travels, has proved to be a major strategic blunder. Besides undercutting its credibility after Tehran failed to make good on the threat, the threat itself propelled the U.S. into action in the form of a major naval deployment to the region that has degraded Iran’s ability to target shipping in the strait. It also caused jittery Arab states to more openly align with the United States against Iran, as evident from, among other things, their reported willingness to consider hosting larger missile defense systems, as well as their participation in the massive U.S.-led naval exercise in the Strait of Hormuz last month. 

Additionally, Iran’s continued support for the Assad regime has sapped its soft power in the Arab world, which has afforded Arab leaders greater freedom of action in balancing against Tehran, in part by strengthening regional organizations that exclude Iran, including the Arab League and the Gulf Cooperation Council, while undercutting organizations that Iran is a member of, such as OPEC.     

October 13th, 2012, 2:40 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A ‘layth’? LOL.

Perhaps an SC user can confirm or dismiss the following?

Syria’s Assad Behind Bars? Yes, At The Damascus Zoo – But Don’t Tell Anyone

October 13 2012

http://www.ibtimes.com/syrias-assad-behind-bars-yes-damascus-zoo-dont-tell-anyone-845701

Hopefully the FSA will liberate the Assads.

October 13th, 2012, 2:53 pm

 

Syrialover said:

SYRIAN PATRIOT #226

I am with you, that video of the Aleppo Ummayad mosque ablaze devastates the heart.

Personal commander of the event Bashar Assad and his Iranian strategists will be watching it and doing high fives, while a Russian adviser looks on approvingly.

Syrians’ anger against Assad, that weakminded vicious hater and enemy of all things Syrian, is burning as hot as those flames.

October 13th, 2012, 2:57 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Putin is wetting his pants, to quote Pussy Riot’s hit song. His intelligence services are looking like fools and the west like geniuses.

Article Excerpt:

“…the mystery surrounding the cargo that was aboard the Syrian A-320 airbus that was compelled to land by Turkish jet fighters may have been cleared up, with an admission by Russian arms officials that materials for use in Syrian anti-aircraft radars may have been aboard.

On Friday, the Moscow business daily Kommersant, citing unnamed Russian arms industry officials, said the plane was carrying 12 boxes of electronic components for use in Syrian air defense systems, along with legal documentation for the equipment.

The most alarming issue for the Kremlin appears to be the effectiveness of Western intelligence sources, whom they blame for alerting Turkish authorities about the presence of the electronic parts aboard the Airbus.”

“With that story about the helicopters, and now this, we have to assume that US intelligence has very good channels of information in Russia,” says Alexander Golts, military columnist for the online newspaper Yezhednevny Zhurnal.

“This has got to be the cause of considerable worry,” in the Russian secret services, he adds.

Golts adds that the Kremlin’s stubborn and consistent backing for Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad is out of step with much of the world community.

“Russia’s ongoing support for Assad is totally ideological,” says Golts. “Putin is certain that all this turmoil with the Arab Spring is the result of a CIA conspiracy, and he sees it as his personal duty to struggle against it.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2012/1012/Syrian-airliner-spat-sours-improving-Turkish-Russian-relations

October 13th, 2012, 3:22 pm

 

zoo said:

Is the Moslem Brotherhood’s mask of the ‘gentle Sunni Moslems’ falling?

Jewish group condemns Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood
By DIAA HADID | Associated Press –

http://news.yahoo.com/jewish-group-condemns-egypts-muslim-brotherhood-130904239.html

JERUSALEM (AP) — A fierce statement against Jews by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood’s spiritual guide drew criticism from an Israeli lawmaker Saturday, while a Jewish activist group called on Washington to cut contacts with Egypt over the issue.

Mohammed Badie said during his weekly message that Jews were spreading “corruption,” had slaughtered Muslims and desecrated holy sites. He further called on Muslims to fight Israel, saying Zionists only understood force.
But Badie’s statement was the first time the group’s supreme leader has made such strong statements since Morsi’s election. Morsi has avoided speaking of Israel in public, making only pledges to respect Egypt’s international agreements.

Badie referred to longstanding Muslim calls to “defend” Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque, a holy site for both Muslims and Jews. Muslims believe the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven from there, while Jews call the compound the Temple Mount because of the biblical Jewish temples that stood there.

“It is time for the Muslim (nation) to unite for the sake of Jerusalem and Palestine after the Jews have increased the corruption in the world, and shed the blood of (Muslims),” Badie said in comments published on the group’s website and emailed to reporters on Thursday.

“Muslims must realize that restoring the sanctuaries and protecting honor and blood from the hands of Jews will not happen through the parlors of the United Nations, or through negotiations. The Zionists only know the way of force,” he added.

October 13th, 2012, 3:23 pm

 

zoo said:

حلب الميدان تنبض بالحياة بعد طرد الارهاب 10 10 2012

October 13th, 2012, 3:35 pm

 

Mina said:

More on Syrian jihadis,
http://angryarab.blogspot.fr/2012/10/icg-report-on-syria-jihadis.html

In Egypt, Jama’a al Islamiyya speaking its mind
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/jama-al-islamiya-we-will-fight-sharia-even-if-blood-shed

Lovely, if you speak to the saudi authorities about human rights, they have red lines! These were considered unacceptable.
– issue laws in Saudi to ban inhuman treatment
– issuing of ID for new comers within a month (currently it is 3 months and is only issued after the Saudi boss is happy that the maid is “good” صالحة)
– notify the indonesian embassy if a maid has ran away
– not force any maid to confess against their will
– treat the indonesian maids similarly to Saudi nationals in front of courts
– renewals of work contracts should be done at the indonesian embassy (where officials can confirm the maids agreement to renewing)

http://www.daralakhbar.com/news/2012/10/02/585216/articles/2117722

October 13th, 2012, 3:41 pm

 

zoo said:

The Christians in Egypt helped toppling Mobarak, what did they get in return? A lesson to the minorities in Syria.

New government has failed us, say Egypt’s Copts

Youssef Hamza
Oct 14, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/new-government-has-failed-us-say-egypts-copts

CAIRO // Overwhelmed by anxiety and fear, some of Egypt’s Coptic Christians now view life in the mainly Muslim nation as the worst in memory.
Islamists of all shades have risen to positions of power in Egypt since the president, Hosni Mubarak, was toppled last year.

The Muslim Brotherhood provided the nation with its first freely elected president, while its political party secured more parliamentary seats than any other party.

As the Brotherhood seeks to project an image of moderation and flexibility, the ultraconservative Salafis are tirelessly advocating a strict implementation of Sharia that could reduce Christians to the status of second-class citizens by barring them from certain jobs or forcing them to pay a special tax historically known as “jizyah”.

October 13th, 2012, 3:48 pm

 

Tara said:

Turkish premier slams Security Council over Syria
By FRANK JORDANS | Associated Press – 1 hr 31 mins ago

Recep Tayyip Erdogan told an international conference in Istanbul that the world was witnessing a humanitarian tragedy in Syria.
“If we wait for one or two of the permanent members … then the future of Syria will be in danger,” Erdogan said, according to an official interpreter.

Erdogan called for a reform of the Security Council, which he called an “unequal, unfair system” that didn’t represent the will of most countries.
,,,,
http://news.yahoo.com/turkish-premier-slams-security-council-over-syria-161243532.html

October 13th, 2012, 3:52 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo@241

The Copt in Egypt helped toppling Mobarak? Very not true. They supported Mobarak until the end.

October 13th, 2012, 3:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Tara

.. then they should be all tried as traitors together with Obama, Sarkozy and all the western countries who cajoled Mobarak for 40 years until the last minute.
Or, following the suggestion of some God abiding commenter, they should be exiled.. to Christian Ethiopia or Sudan for example.

October 13th, 2012, 4:02 pm

 

zoo said:

#242 Tara

That’s what I mean, Erdogan is enraged at the whole world because in his “adventures” with Syria he is totally isolated.

I guess he needs to have an urgent colonoscopy.

October 13th, 2012, 4:04 pm

 

zoo said:

Tit for Tat

U.S. Suspects Iranians Were Behind a Wave of Cyberattacks
By THOM SHANKER and DAVID E. SANGER 25 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — Intelligence officials believe Iran was the origin of network attacks that crippled computers across the Saudi oil industry and breached American financial institutions.

October 13th, 2012, 4:09 pm

 

zoo said:

The SNC proposed elections for its own leadership.
In Syria, will it be done through Facebook or Twitter?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/world/middleeast/syria.html

Jockeying for control of the opposition movement has also continued. The Syrian National Council, the main exile opposition group, appeared to be taking steps to try to revitalize itself amid charges that it had become irrelevant, was unable to effectively lead a revolt from outside the country and was dominated by Islamists.

The group released a video on Friday that promised international elections for its own leadership, but did not explain important specifics including whether or how it intended to hold a vote in war-torn Syria.

October 13th, 2012, 4:13 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo@ 244

Let me ask you a question that bothers me very much, and please note I am not discussing religion.

While I would like to refrain from using the word ” traitor” because it implies severe consequences such as stripping of rights, capital punishment, I wish there is a word to describe one’s emotional status to those who betrayed the trust of the masses and support a dictator against his people to maintain their perceived privileges. I am not saying I am supporting any consequences towards the supporters of a dictator but how can they be trusted? How one can reconcile himself/herself with a traitor? Is our generation lost?

October 13th, 2012, 4:17 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria’s Christians face uncertain future

Suha Philip Ma’ayeh
Oct 14, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/featured-content/channel-page/news/world/middle-teasers-list/syria-s-christians-face-uncertain-future

MIAMI, FLORIDA // Nidal Kalach, a US citizen of Syrian descent, has put his dream of returning to his home country on hold.
The 47-year-old restaurant businessman, from the state of Florida, thought of moving back to Syria and opening a hotel in Maaloula, a predominately Christian town from where his family originates.

“I thought about the possibility of settling in Damascus and setting up a first-class hotel in Maaloula. I wanted to invest in my country.”

But Mr Kalach, who left Damascus in 1991, is now reluctant to return.

“I am concerned if the regime is toppled, Syria will fall in to the hands of extremists. Nobody will protect the rights of the Christians. Look at what happened to the Christians in Egypt and Iraq. Christians keep losing,” he said, as he drank white tea during an interview at crowded shopping mall in Miami.

October 13th, 2012, 4:19 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

The victorious Free Syrian Army of the revolution shot down a criminal Mig in the countryside of Aleppo while the Mig was involved in conducting crimes against humanity. All Praise be to Allah.

The FSA also captured more than 250 criminal soldiers in the strategic Khirbet alJowz highlighting the impending collapse of the regimes thug brigades. The Khirbet is strategically important as it isolates the regime thugs who are currently conducting systematic destruction of Aleppo.

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Idiot idol worshipers will be put on trial along with the idol and punished accordingly. They will be treated as full fledged traitors and enemies of the people. QED.

October 13th, 2012, 4:35 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

Idiot idol worshipers will be put on trial along with the idol and punished accordingly. They will be treated as full fledged traitors and enemies of the people. QED.

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Likewise Hubal worshiper should exterminated without trial. Hubal idol worship places should be converted to real god of heaven places, science labs. That day is coming and Hubal will not come to their help.

October 13th, 2012, 4:44 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أصدرت كتائب الجيش الحر في الميادين بديرالزور بياناً يتضمن رؤيتها لأهم الخطوات التي ينبغي اتخاذها عقب سقوط نظام بشار الأسد الذي رأته الكتائب قريباً جداً.
وذكر البيان أن أول خطوة ينبغي اتخاذها هي تشكيل حكومة مؤقتة من قيادات الجيش الحر فقط، وأكد البيان في هذا الصدد أن الحكومة المؤقتة تستثني العلويين بشكل نهائي.
وأكد البيان وجوب السيطرة بشكل كامل على المناطق العلوية وإعداد قوائم بالاشخاص المطلوب القبض عليها من اجل ان يقدموا للمحاكم الخاصة على ان لاتتجاوز هذه المحاكمات الثلاثة اشهر على اكبر تقدير.
وتبعاً لذلك يرى البيان وجوب منع اللبنانين والعراقيين من الدخول للاراضي السورية مؤقتا خوفا من وجود ميليشيات شيعية او خلايا نائمة ضمنهم .
إضافة إلى منع اي ايراني او اي شخص دخل لايران سابقا، من الدخول للاراضي السورية واغلاق السفارة الايرانية والروسية والصينية .
وفي خطوة غير مسبوقة طالب البيان بضرورة تحطيم جميع المراقد الشيعية والحسينيات وازالتها من الوجود مع مراعاة احترام الميت بحد ذاته ودفنه بالطريقة الاسلامية الصحيحة بدون وجود الاضرحة والمقامات كما فعل اخواننا في ليبيا المحررة بحسب البيان.
The more they talk the more the world knows who they really are

October 13th, 2012, 4:55 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

# 251 Dendeshe said:

Likewise Hubal worshiper should exterminated without trial. Hubal idol worship places should be converted to real god of heaven places, science labs. That day is coming and Hubal will not come to their help.

And Allah the Almighty said:

ألا ان أولياء الله لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون

Unquestionably, [for] the allies of Allah there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve

QED

October 13th, 2012, 4:56 pm

 

ann said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1350117675

October 13th, 2012, 5:05 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

The more they talk the more the world knows who they really are

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They never decieved me nor SNP. We know well what these Alciada drugged murderers, that are programmed as cyborg killers are for sure made of, Hubal ziorobot.

October 13th, 2012, 5:17 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Samar Yazbek:
Syrian writer Samar Yazbek: ‘A woman like me makes life difficult’
Syrian novelist Samar Yazbek was born into a wealthy Alawite family, but became ‘a traitor to her kind’ to fight the Assad regime. Her latest work is a visceral, nightmarish account of the revolution that drove her into exile.
(An article in The Guardian)
Comment: she was always a rebel,she is a good writer but she was pumped by western press because she makes a good story. Many see her as an example of the ” useful idiots” , some thinks she is acting out of guilt, most believe she will be useless if the country is overtaken by Islamists, I respect Samar’s choices but I think she does not know enough about the new recruits who are now in the lead in the fight to reoccupy Syria.

October 13th, 2012, 5:24 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

And Allah the Almighty said:

ألا ان أولياء الله لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون

Unquestionably
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There is no argument here. The brain washing works no question about it. No matter if it is watching CNN and fox news, listning to Lenin loud mouth, Christian (Mossad) preecher Benny on TBN, Saddam, Nasser, jones, Khomenei or Aljezzera. But it does not work on intelligent humans who are in control of thier faculties, have the know-how. We can map it, take it apart, detect it’s source and control method. All those names I mentioned above, eminate from one voice and all worked on one single plan that is still in the making. It will fail in the end, god said so, not Hubal and his mahbools.

There is more..but my iceskating instructor calling me, it is dancing time. Go bend over to hubal.

just quickly, on emore ..Mighty, up my ass, he got 1.4 billion moslem f***kers and look at Moslems, can yu liberate Jerusalem? go bend over now.

October 13th, 2012, 5:33 pm

 

Ghufran said:

كشفت مصادر مطلعة أن الولايات المتحدة بدأت بالتهديد بقطع المساعدات عن الأمم المتحدة في حال صوتت الجمعية العامة لصالح مشروع قرار يدعو للاعتراف بفلسطين كدولة غير عضو في الأمم المتحدة.
وقالت المصادر المطلعة على تطورات الاتصالات بهذا الشأن لوكالة آكي الايطالية للأنباء اليوم إن الولايات المتحدة أبلغت الأمم المتحدة بأنها ستعمد الى التعامل مع رفع التمثيل الفلسطيني في الأمم المتحدة كما تعاملت سابقا مع منظمة اليونسكو حيث قامت بقطع المساعدات عن المنظمة الأممية عقابا لها على منحها العضوية لفلسطين.
Let the KSA and Qatar billions finance the UN

October 13th, 2012, 5:41 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

How Sectarianism Blinds the Shia to the Horrors of Syria
Fouad Ajami
October 5, 2012

[Selected quote]

Nasrallah and his movement are seen for what they are: satraps of Iran, Shia sectarians bent on the domination of Beirut, wedded to the tyranny in Damascus.

FROM ONE SIDE, Maliki’s Iraq, from the other side, Hezbollah in Beirut: Arab Shiism has been placed in a perilous and morally awkward position.

http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/magazine/108149/between-freedom-and-sectarianism-shia-and-sunni-and-the-syrian-revolt#

October 13th, 2012, 5:48 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Coninued from #259.

There were 5 pages of the article.

The paragraph below (from page 5) stood out.

The emotive reminder of the syrian people being ‘broken’ followed by the surprising response of the syrian people after march 2011 which arouses elation and immense pride.

They (I guess we) thought the Syrian people were indeed broken. Then came the revolution…

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‘The Syrian rebellion caught Nasrallah—as it had Bashar himself—by surprise. It had been assumed in that “axis of resistance” that rebellions would topple only rulers aligned with the West, such as Hosni Mubarak and the Tunisian strongman; only rulers old enough to have lost touch with their people. The prevailing opinion was that Syria was a case apart, that the regime had successfully closed up the political universe, that the Syrian people were broken, that the memory of the slaughter that took place in Aleppo and Hama three decades earlier had frightened the Syrian people into submission for all time. Then, in March 2011, the boys of Deraa shattered this complacency. Hama soon found its nerve, and Homs, its larger sister city in the central plains, picked up the torch of the revolt. The Syrian people surprised themselves and their ruler—and the Hezbollah leaders in Beirut as well. The expectation that this rebellion would be short-lived was overwhelmed by a revolution of great fury. Hezbollah was fully aware that its position in Lebanon would be much weakened were a Sunni-ruled Syria to rise, like an apparition, from a long subservience.’

October 13th, 2012, 7:07 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Syrian rebels seize two air defense bases, NGO says
October 13, 2012

Syrian rebels captured two air defense bases from regime forces on Saturday, one in the central province of Homs and the other near Damascus, a monitoring group said.

Rebel fighters seized a base in Deir Foul village near the rebel-held town of Rastan in Homs, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Other rebel Free Syrian Army fighters took control of an air defense base in Atibah in Damascus province after an eight-hour battle with regime forces, the Britain-based watchdog added.

To read more: http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=446131#ixzz29DxA8YvL
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Syria rebels down fighter jet near Aleppo
October 13, 2012

Syrian rebels shot down a fighter jet in the northern province of Aleppo on Saturday, a monitoring group and a military defector said.

“The rebels shot down the fighter jet in the west of Aleppo province, where fierce battles are taking place,” Syrian Observatory for Human Rights director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP. “The jet was bombarding the village of Khan al-Asal.”

A defected military officer in the province confirmed the reports, adding that what he said was a MiG jet was shot down some 10 kilometers west of Aleppo, scene of fierce battles since July 20.

Amateur video shot by activists and distributed by the Observatory showed groups of people gathering around a pile of embers, and smoke rising from the scene, as men fired their weapons into the air in celebration.

It also showed the tail of a fixed-wing aircraft, blackened by fire and broken off from the body of the plane.

“God is greatest,” people shouted.

To read more: http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=446111#ixzz29DxtGHDa
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Allah willing, the supporters of the great Revolution of Syria will soon be celebrating the good news of the heavy losses that were inflicted upon the criminal thugs of the regime that will form a watershed in this Revolution.

Be on the lookout for the good news that will start trickling out of the fogs of the battles in the coming days.

The criminal regime’s latest attempt launched by idiot idol by his latest theatrical show of bravado in Aleppo is turning into a disaster that will definitely shatter his back and the backs of those who worship him here and elsewhere.

October 13th, 2012, 7:27 pm

 

Tara said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19938221
Syria bans Turkey civilian flights over its territory

Syria has announced that Turkish civilian planes will no longer be allowed to fly over its territory.

Syria’s foreign ministry said the decision to ban Turkish flights in its airspace was in retaliation for a similar move from Ankara.

Turkey has not announced such a ban, although it has said it will continue to ground Syrian civilian planes it suspects are carrying military cargo.

October 13th, 2012, 7:39 pm

 

ann said:

Terrorists in Syria Decapitate Injured Soldier, War Crime

Too violent to be show in its entirety. VIDEO WAS REJECTED BY YOUTUBE. Terrorists are screaming “Safu!” (execute him) from تصفيه meaning purging in colloquial Syrian. Learn Arabic terrorist lovers!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b5_1350127543

October 13th, 2012, 7:46 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Wow, that’s a serious and mindblowing story ZOO has given us about a Christian businessman sipping tea in Miami who is not sure now whether to return to Syria.

Punchline: “But Mr Kalach, who left Damascus in 1991, is now reluctant to return.”

He’s been dithering about it for over 20 years now, so what’s the rush?

October 13th, 2012, 8:13 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Repeat Alert!

Don’t click on anything posted by the all-American “ANN” if you are worried about viruses.

October 13th, 2012, 8:15 pm

 

ann said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e65_1350049215

October 13th, 2012, 8:32 pm

 

Ghufran said:

قال أحمد فوزي المتحدث باسم المبعوث الدولي والعربي إلى سوريا الأخضر الإبراهيمي، أن الأخير بحث مع الملك السعودي عبدالله بن عبد العزيز، يوم الجمعة، السبل الكفيلة بإنهاء جميع أعمال العنف ووقف نزيف الدم وانتهاكات حقوق الإنسان في سوريا، معتبرا ان الحرب في سوريا لن تنتهي بالأساليب العسكرية.
وقال فوزي في بيان نقلته وكالة الأنباء السعودية (واس) إن “المباحثات تطرقت إلى السبل الكفيلة بوقف إراقة الدماء في سوريا”، مضيفاً أن “الأوضاع تزداد تدهورا يوما بعد يوم، وعذابات الشعب السوري لا مثيل لها”.
وأشار البيان الى “استعراض المشاورات التي يجريها الإبراهيمي مع الحكومة السورية والمعارضة”، معبرا عن “قناعته بأن الوضع المؤسف لا يمكن إنهاؤه بالوسائل العسكرية وإنما بعملية سياسية تستجيب للتطلعات المشروعة للشعب السوري”.
KSA and Turkey may be willing to talk, Qarar is waiting for instructions from Uncle Sam while Islamists are waiting for their bloody victory on earth or their 72 virgins in heaven.
Any proposal that does not put the army in the center and preserves the rights of all Syrians will not work,not now and not in the future, the rest is details.

October 13th, 2012, 8:35 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The killers of Dr Tsabihji have a special place in hell along with children killers, the lack of condemnation for the murder of scientists and doctors in Syria tells a lot about how confused and lost many people have become, some of us predicted that the lack of public support for rebels will lead to more bombings and assassinations but it also signals the end of the uprising as a revolution.
دايمه و كل ثوره و انتم بخير
War lords are now fighting about territories and money.

October 13th, 2012, 8:49 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أفاد مراسل فرانس برس في المدينة نقلا عن طبيب مقرب من تسابحجي رفض كشف اسمه ان ‘مجموعة ادعت انها من الجيش الحر’ فاوضت عائلة تسابحجي بعد خطفه في 26 تموز (يوليو) ‘لاطلاق سراحه مقابل مبلغ اربعة ملايين ليرة سورية (55 الف دولار امريكي) شرط الاستقالة من مهامه ومغادرة البلد’.
وبحسب الطبيب، وافقت العائلة على العرض ‘وقامت بكل التجهيزات لمغادرة البلد فور الافراج عنه’، كاشفا انه سبق لتسابحجي ان تلقى تهديدات ‘بالخطف والتصفية من الجيش الحر’.
كما تعرض الطبيب القتيل لحملة على مواقع التواصل الاجتماعي ‘بوصفه شبيحا ومن مرتزقة النظام’ اتهم فيها بانه ‘يستقبل جرحى الجيش السوري دون جرحى المسلحين، ويسلم جرحى المعارضة’ الى النظام.
وتم العثور على الجثة بعد تلقي نجل الطبيب الاكبر اتصالا من مجهول ابلغه فيه ‘بوجوب استلام والده على طريق حلب-حريتان الدولي’.
وقال المصدر ‘توجه ابن الطبيب الشهيد برفقة سيارة اسعاف الى الطريق المذكور آملا في استلام والده ليلقاه بعد طول بحث جثة هامدة مرمية في احد الشوارع الفرعية في المنطقة المذكورة’.

October 13th, 2012, 9:34 pm

 

Syrian Natonalist Party said:

War lords are now fighting about territories and money.
_______________________________________________________________

It was all about that from the start. And they will prolong it as much as they can, for as long as the money purse pass around.

For a decade, we looked for partners in the Syrian oppositions, none to be found, not one other than Farid Ghadri and Brother Riffat. Then Khaddam gets greedy and needed more millions to match his wealth with the Makhloof’s and Tlasses’s got pissed and launched a fake opposition group called NSF. When he passed the little payola, the brotherhood suddenly raised heads and mouth got louder. But when the big purse opened up, they matched it with equal valor for blood of Syrians. They really don’t giva a damm how many Syrian dies or get horribly injured, jailed or tortured, they are cold blooded and have no compassion to Syrians, or to Syria. All they care about is money, but they lie and say everything is for Allah sake. As long as the cash keeps coming out of the Bedouin purse handlers, they will keep on murdering in Allah name and for his sake. It is all for Sunni Islam and the messenger sake. What an alibi huh. Except it is a bigger fraud than Khaddam’s attempt to hoard the wealth. The Brotherhoods come in nay colors, some are Christian Crusaders, like George Busch, they will kill own young, murder millions of innocent women and children, in the most of cruelest way and brag that it is for some noble cause. The Christian Crusaders raised Christianity and Christ cause, all the genocides they committed, and all the stolen wealth, burning and destruction was for Christ sake. The other side of the Brotherhood, the Moslem Crusaders, did the same, in the name of Mohammad. They copied his evil campaign basically, just as the crusaders copied it.

October 13th, 2012, 10:17 pm

 

ann said:

Ottoman Empire wants to get rid of Syria’s political corpse – 09.10.2012

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/09-10-2012/122398-turkey_syria-0/

The tension on the Syrian-Turkish border has reached its peak. Every time when the Syrians accidentally or intentionally launch a shell on the neighboring country, Turkey responds with powerful artillery. Ankara blames the Assad for the escalation of violence in the region.

On October 3, unidentified individuals launched a shell from the Syrian side. The shell exploded in the Turkish border town of Akchakale. As a result, 5 people were killed and 13 were injured when the shell struck a residential building. For Syria, that day was marked with bloody attacks in Aleppo, in which more than 40 people were killed. The blasts ripped through the district controlled by government forces.

It’s no secret that Ankara from the very beginning openly supported the Syrian rebels. Erdogan’s government has repeatedly said that it was inadmissible to continue the military operations of government forces against the people of Syria. However, the authorities diplomatically silenced the punitive actions the Turkish army against the Kurds. Ankara fully justifies its actions in regard to the struggle against Kurdish separatists, who intensified their subversive activities in the summer of 2012. Simultaneously, the Kurds of Syria announced the establishment of the Western Kurdistan with capital in Afrin. Analysts note that this event became a major blow for Turkey, as the territory of the Western Kurdistan is located in close proximity to its borders.

When deciding on local military operations in Syria, Turkey, apparently, took account of the possibility to expand the struggle against the Kurds, if required. Whatever it was, Turkey’s response to the provocation of October 3 was extremely tough. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the next day asked a permission from the Parliament to conduct cross-border operations in Syria. As many as 320 deputies supported the beginning of combat actions, 129 voted against it. Representatives of the opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) and the Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party stood up against the escalation of the conflict. The Vice Chairman of CHP criticized Interior Minister Ahmet Davutoglu for his adventurism, which could further aggravate the situation in the Syrian direction.

Officials in Ankara were quick to calm the world community down: the combat action will be local. In particular, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister said: “Turkey does not want the war. The Parliament’s decision today is not a declaration of the beginning of a military action.”

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the country’s armed forces received the mandate to conduct cross-border operations. However, he added, it did not mean that Turkey declared war on Syria.

The response of the Turkish Army to the incident of October 3 came shortly. The next day, the Turkish artillery struck a powerful blow on the Syrian positions. Three tanks, two armored personnel carriers and a howitzer were destroyed in the attack, ten soldiers were killed.

The Syrian authorities apologized to Turkey for the tragic incident that led to the deaths of civilians in Akchakale. The message was sent through the UN. Syria promised to do everything possible to ensure that such incidents do not happen again.

However, the contradictions between Ankara and Damascus may worsen even more in the coming months. On October 8th, the world media continued to report about the deployment of additional tank and artillery forces to the border. Official statements from top officials confirm that Turkey, with the support of the West, took the course to overthrow the sitting president of Syria. In September, Erdogan outspokenly expressed his views on the Syrian issue. He called Bashar al-Assad a political corpse. Later, he offered to replace Assad with a “conscientious man” – Vice President Farouk al-Sharaa.

Syrian Information Minister Omran Al-Zobi cracked down on Turkey’s Erdogan on the Syrian national television. “We do not live in the era of the Ottoman Empire. I encourage the Turkish government to relinquish power in favor of the personalities that will be acceptable to the Turkish people,” he said.

The current escalation between Ankara and Damascus demonstrates that the scenario approved by the U.S. and its NATO allies continues to develop in Syria.

[…]

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/09-10-2012/122398-turkey_syria-0/

October 13th, 2012, 10:43 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian army clears HOMS Suburb – 2012-10-14

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2012-10/14/c_131905060.htm

BEIJING, Oct. 14 (Xinhuanet) — The Syrian Army is calling on residents of the restive Homs suburb of Jeb al-Jandali to return home, after claiming to have cleared the neighborhood of anti-regime fighters.

AP footage of the suburb shows deserted streets and gutted buildings. During a sweep of Jeb al-Jandali, the Syrian Army claimed they found field hospitals used by opposition fighters.

Syrian troops have widened their offensive to retake rebel-held areas of Homs, as well as the northern city of Aleppo, Damascus suburbs, and southern villages near to Jordan. Syria’s defense minister, General Fahd Jassem al-Freij, says the government is gaining the upper hand in the conflict.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2012-10/14/c_131905060.htm

October 13th, 2012, 10:58 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian army kill 111 armed rebels in two cities: radio – 2012-10-13

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-10/13/c_123819116.htm

DAMASCUS, Oct. 13 (Xinhua) — At least 111 armed men were killed Saturday during clashes with the Syrian troops in the northern city of Aleppo and the coastal city of Latakia, the pro- government Sham FM reported.

The Syrian troops killed 11 armed men who had tried to enter al- Nabi Ynus area in the countryside of Latakia, the report said, adding that the confrontation led to the killing of one army soldier.

It said the Syrian troops carried a “qualitative” operation at Qastal Harami area in Aleppo Saturday, killing 80 armed men.

Also in Aleppo, 20 armed men were killed Saturday by the Syrian troops at Bab al-Hadid area, the report said.

Aleppo has emerged as the main battleground between the Syrian regular army and the rebel Free Syrian Army, who has been trying for months to win control over the crucial northern slice of Syria.

Meanwhile, the oppositional Local Coordination Committees (LCC), a network of activists, said a leader of a rebel battalion in the capital Damascus was killed Saturday in the eastern al-Ghouta area due to the intense shelling by the government troops on that area.

The LCC identified the killed leader as breakaway Lt.-Col. Omar Mohammad Taha.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-10/13/c_123819116.htm

October 13th, 2012, 11:07 pm

 

ann said:

‘US clearly favors Assad’s overthrow’ – 13 October, 2012

http://rt.com/news/us-syria-partisan-position-333/

Washington has accused Moscow of “morally bankruptcy” in Syria after Turkey intercepted a Syrian civilian plane. But the US cannot be an honest broker, analyst Jeff Steinberg told RT, because of its ill-covered support of the Syrian rebels.

­RT: The White House today accused Russia of pursuing a ‘‘morally bankrupt’’ policy on Syria, following Turkey’s seizure of Russian radar parts from a Syrian plane. Just how justified is this accusation?

Jeff Steinberg: It is completely unjustified, and I think it just reflects the growing hysteria on the part of the Obama administration over the clear and growing evidence that the Syrian opposition is increasingly being dominated by the same type of al-Qaeda-linked jihadi networks that just recently assassinated the American ambassador and three other American diplomats in Benghazi, Libya.

The opposition has clearly run aground in terms of any military capacity to overthrow the Assad regime. There are no defections from the Libyan Army; the armed opposition has been defeated significantly in both Damascus and Aleppo. The Sunni-majority population remains largely in support of the government, and so the opposition is resorting to suicide bombings, to car bombings – the standard techniques of al-Qaeda, that they are continuing successfully to use in Afghanistan and in Iraq and have now been carrying out in Benghazi.

It is a terrible embarrassment that the United States, as President Putin observed few weeks ago, is back in bed with al-Qaeda minus Osama bin Laden.

RT: Washington, as you say, is far from being neutral in this conflict, offering its vehement support for the rebels. How would you assess its role in settling the Syrian conflict then?

JS: The United States has taken a partisan position in favor of the overthrow of Assad. President Obama has repeatedly said Assad has to go, which is to my mind is an obscene violation of the fundamental principles imbedded in the UN charter and the functioning of the UN Security Council. This goes back to the fact that with the overthrow of Gaddafi and his execution once he was captured, the United States, Britain and France have completely overturned the functioning five members of the UN Security Council.

Russia and China were lied to by Ambassador Susan Rice when they were told that the incident in Libya was a humanitarian intervention, and would not lead to a regime change. That broke up the functioning of the Security Council and we are still paying a terrible price. The United States cannot be an honest broker and at the same time, because the American military is insisting that there will be no repeat of Libya, no no-fly zone, no direct American military involvement, we’re playing second fiddle to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. And my understanding is that the Saudis have poured $150 million in recent months into the hands of the radical neo-Salafis who are carrying out the suicide bombings, and some of whom are part of al-Qaeda.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/us-syria-partisan-position-333/

October 13th, 2012, 11:14 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أقدم مسلحون لواء التوحيد الذي ينشط تحت مظلة الجيش الحر على حرق الجامع الأموي الذي بني قبل اكثر من 1300 سنة وهو من اقدم جوامع العالم.
و قال مصدر أمني إن حريقا مقصودا أضرم عصر يوم السبت في الجامع الكبير في مدينة حلب بعد اقتحام عصابات الجيش الحر للجامع وبعد استهدافه بالقذائف الصاروخية  .
و أضاف لا يوجد في الجامع أي تواجد أمني و هذا هو الهجوم الرابع الذي تقوم به العصابات على الجامع و الإضرار تلحق به في كل مرة و اليوم قاموا بحرقه لـتأليب الرأي العام لأنهم أفلسوا و المواطنون يناشدون الجيش سرعة الحسم وتخليصهم من شذاذ الآفاق ” .
من جانبه أصدر لواء التوحيد بياناً نفى مسؤوليته عن حرق الجامع متهماً الجيش العربي السوري بحرقه قبل انسحابه منه .
I do not believe the rebels story, events around the mosque clearly point to rebels attacking the mosque first to “clean it” from regime Tadnees.
Nobody wants to take responsibility but the end result is the same ,however, without the armed rebels attempting to “liberate” the mosque there would have been no fight and the mosque could have been saved.
mosques are supposed to be places for worship, meditation and charity,but they are now used often as a stage to incite hatred, snipers posts, storage place for weapons and HQ for rebels. Before you condemn the army for attacking mosques, which the army was guilty of, you should think about the rebels who made mosques military compounds in the first place, at the end, it is obvious that fighters from both sides could not care less about the sanctity and historical value of mosques.

October 13th, 2012, 11:14 pm

 

ann said:

‘The West is looking for an excuse to attack Syria, but Assad is not giving one’ – 13 October, 2012

http://rt.com/news/west-war-syria-assad-329/

The Turkish interception of a Syrian civilian jet heading to Damascus from Moscow was yet another attempt to provoke Assad to give the West a reason to strike Syria, Sibel Edmonds of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition told RT.

­RT: There are lots of ways of smuggling weapons – why would Russia even try to send arms into Syria on a commercial flight?

Sibel Edmonds: Look, we started reporting on the preparation by US and NATO and their Turkish partners in southern Turkey starting in May 2011. You are looking at 16 or 17 months ago, the United States, with their base in Turkey, started preparations for war against Syria.

And then we reported, we broke the story in December 2011, with another preparation taken place in Jordan when some of the US troops from Iraq were being transferred secretly into Jordan. Again the mainstream media did not report on this.

So you are looking at this war preparation against Syria that began at least 16 months ago. Now, the initial aim was to wait and provoke Assad into stepping into this trap and making a single move for us to basically go there and start the war. And Assad so far has played very cautiously and smartly. He has not provided that ignition, that move for the West to justify the attack on Syria as a response of defense versus offense.

And obviously since that aim, that plan has not worked, right now they are just looking to create an excuse, like a false flag operation to basically start this war and do so right before the elections here in the United States. But that is exactly what they are looking for. What Turkey says about the intercepted plane or what the mainstream media is portraying here has nothing to do with the reality on the ground.

We the United States, right after Gaddafi’s fall, right after Libya, immediately after Libya, started preparing this war against Syria with the Assad regime in May 2011. And now our military and NATO are in the process of creating – if not making up – the event, that set-up or excuse to proceed and start it. As I said, Assad has been playing very smart so far.

RT: Do you think Turkey is being deliberately provocative in an effort to pull NATO into the conflict, given that the alliance has been reluctant to get involved?

SE: That is one way to look at this thing. But as I’ve said, NATO and the US have been preparing the rebels along the Syrian-Turkey border since May-June 2011. Maybe that is the image that NATO and its Western allies want to maintain, and have Turkey be the initial step taker, let’s put it this way. But in terms of wanting and having decided on this war and the regime change in Syria – no, they have had this planned, as I have said, 16 month ago.

To their surprise, Syria has not yet made any wrong move. It started with this so-called incident between Turkey and Syria just a few days ago. And now we have this issue of the plane. All these are just baiting. And creating this base, this false base, for an attack on Syria and making it look as if this did not come from us, and Syria and the Assad regime initiated it.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/west-war-syria-assad-329/

October 13th, 2012, 11:17 pm

 

ann said:

Syria closes airspace to Turkish civilian flights – 14 October, 2012

http://rt.com/news/syria-turkey-flight-ban-airspace-376/

Damascus has placed a ban on Turkish Airlines flying into Syrian airspace following a diplomatic row that began when Turkey seized cargo from a Syrian civilian plane it forced to land in Ankara.

­Syria’s foreign ministry has announced that the ban takes effect at midnight on Saturday, responding to Turkey’s threats of grounding Syrian civilian planes if military cargo is suspected to be onboard.

Turkey diverted the passenger, which was plane en route to Damascus from Moscow, on Wednesday as it entered Turkish airspace, forcing it to land in Ankara for a cargo inspection. After over nine hours on the tarmac, during which the passengers were not allowed to leave the plane, Turkish authorities confiscated some of the cargo. Before the plane was cleared to continue on to Syria, law enforcement agents abused passengers and crew, forcing them to sign papers stating that the incident was due to an emergency landing executed by the pilot, according to witness accounts.

Moscow harshly criticized Turkey for endangering the lives of the flight’s passengers by using F-16 fighter jets to force the plane to land, and demanded to know why Russian diplomats and doctors were not allowed to meet the 17 Russian nationals on board.

On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated that the plane was carrying legal radar parts, not munitions.

“We have no secrets,” Lavrov told reporters. “There were, of course, no weapons on the plane and could not have been any. There was cargo on the plane that a legal Russian supplier was sending in a legal way to a legal customer.”

The announcement came in response to a statement made by Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan, alleging that the Syrian Air jet was transporting Russian-made weapons for use by the Syrian Defense Ministry.

“It is absolutely clear who sent the cargo and who was going to receive it. This was munitions from the Russian equivalent of our Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation being sent to the Syrian Defense Ministry,” Erdogan said more than a day after the incident, without giving any exact details on the contents of the cargo.

The Syrian Foreign Ministry accused Turkey of “air-piracy” and demanded the cargo be returned “whole and safe.”

Tensions between Turkey and Damascus have been on the rise for reasons unrelated to the plane incident.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/syria-turkey-flight-ban-airspace-376/

October 13th, 2012, 11:24 pm

 

ann said:

Mali Islamists ‘buying child soldiers for £375’

Islamists who have taken over northern Mali are “buying child soldiers” from their families for £375 and compiling a “frightening” list of unmarried women who are pregnant or had borne children, according to senior UN official.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/mali/9603338/Mali-Islamists-buying-child-soldiers-for-375.html

Al-Qaeda terrorists are “buying loyalty” among the local population by abolishing taxes and paying for fighters and wives in a country where more than half the people live on less than 80p a day.

Women bought as wives from their families for as little as £620 are frequently resold in a form of “enforced prostitution”, said Ivan Simonovic, the UN Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights, said after a fact-finding visit to the country.

There have been three public executions, eight amputations and two floggings, he added, and as well as bans on smoking and listening to music, women are now expected to cover their heads and their ability to work has been restricted.

His report indicates an extension of the Sharia law system the extremists have sought to implement since taking over an area the size of France in March when a coup plunged the country into chaos.

“What is new now is that human rights violations are becoming more systematic,” Mr Simonovic told reporters at UN headquarters in New York, adding that Islamists had “imposed an extremist version of Sharia”.

“Children are particularly vulnerable in the north,” he said. “I heard from one testimony that children were also involved in learning how to produce improvised explosive devices and three children were injured in an explosion.”

[…]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/mali/9603338/Mali-Islamists-buying-child-soldiers-for-375.html

October 13th, 2012, 11:37 pm

 
 

ann said:

Islamists: We’ll ‘open doors of hell,’ slaughter hostages
‘He will not be able to count the bodies of French expatriates’ – 2 hours ago

(Reuters) Al Qaeda-linked Islamists in Mali threatened on Saturday to “open the doors of hell” for French citizens if France kept pushing for armed intervention to retake the rebel-held north.

The renewed threats against French hostages and expatriates came as French-speaking nations met in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where French President Francois Hollande was expected to urge the rapid deployment of an African-led force to rout the Islamists.

Hollande said the threat would not deter France’s determination to quash the Islamists in Mali.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/islamists-well-open-doors-of-hell-slaughter-hostages/?cat_orig=world

October 13th, 2012, 11:51 pm

 

Ghufran said:

A very good review of current Kurds situation in Syria and beyond:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/09/29/world/middleeast/the-growing-role-of-kurds-in-syria.html?ref=middleeast
Future Syrian governments will have no choice but to grant autonomy to the Kurds.

October 13th, 2012, 11:53 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian forces on the offensive – Oct 13, 2012

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_10_13/Syrian-forces-on-the-offensive/

Syrian government forces have continued their operations to wipe out rebel resistance in nine provinces, including those located near Syria’s border with Turkey and Iraq.

In Deir ez-Zor, the rebels have lost at least 11 men dead and dozens captured. Near Damascus, army units have freed 9 hostages and eliminated a cell of bomb-makers.

There has also been heavy fighting in the outskirts of Syria’s second city Aleppo.

[…]

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_10_13/Syrian-forces-on-the-offensive/

October 14th, 2012, 12:31 am

 

Ghufran said:

قال علي صدر الدين البيانوني -المراقب العام السابق لجماعة الإخوان المسلمين في سوريا ونائب مراقبها الحالي- إن المعارضة السورية لديها خارطة طريق للمرحلة الانتقالية بعد سقوط نظام بشار الأسد. وفي الوقت الذي قال فيه إنه ليس هناك إمكانية لحل سياسي في سوريا، طالب المجتمع الدولي بتزويد الثوار بالسلاح.
Those in Syria who still think a political solution is possible are in the minority, most Syrians want an end to this mess and the opportunity to live and raise their children instead of burying their children but they do believe that a winner has to emerge before peace is reachable. most supporters of a political solution are non Syrians who fear that a failed state will affect the whole Middle East,it is obvious that the rebels are too stubborn to talk peace, and the same can be said about hard core Assadists , this leaves us with two possibilities: the Algerian model where rebels fail to topple the regime but manage to keep a civil war and terrorism alive for years until they eventually lost and the country did go through political changes after 200,000 algerians got killed, and a second model where the country is divided and ruled by war lords who have outside help and take orders from their masters outside Syria, this makes syria more like Afghanistan with a Lebanese twist, A third and proffered option (cease fire and a political deal) is unattainable at this moment.

October 14th, 2012, 12:40 am

 

Johannes de Silentio said:

266 ANN

“All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent”

Wrong on all counts. Allah is not a he, nor eternal. Nor blah nor blah nor blah.

October 14th, 2012, 12:41 am

 

Ghufran said:

أكد قائد المجلس العسكري لمدينة حلب في الجيش السوري الحر العقيد عبد الجبار العكيدي تحرير كل المناطق في ريف حلب، مشيراً إلى أن 75 في المئة من مدينة حلب تخضع لسيطرة الثوار، و أن النظام السوري نفذ عشرين عملية عسكرية ضد حلب وريفها لاستعادة الأحياء المحررة دون أن ينجح وتكبد خسائر كبيرة.
ونقلت صحيفة “الراي” عن العكيدي قوله أن “المعركة الفاصلة في حلب ستمهد لمعركة دمشق الكبرى”، لافتا إلى أن “أبطال الجيش الحر سيحررون حلب بالكامل ونحن مصرون على تحرير كل التراب السوري من الكتائب الأسدية وحتى الآن نجحنا في تأمين منطقة محررة لا سيما على الحدود الشمالية السورية ـ التركية”.
وأوضح أن قيادة الجيش الحر لديها معلومات مؤكدة عن تورط عناصر من حزب الله في القتال إلى جانب النظام لا سيما في محافظة حمص، مشيرا إلى أن “مقتل أبو عباس (علي حسين ناصيف) يشكل وحده دليلاً كافياً على أن حزب الله يقاتل مع كتائب الأسد”.
ونفى دخول حركات سلفية جهادية إلى سورية، مؤكداً “أن لا وجود لسلفيين جهاديين متطرفين بل يوجد بعض المجموعات الإسلامية التي تتبنى أفكاراً معتدلة وكل ما يُقال عن دخول عناصر من القاعدة إلى سورية لا أساس له”.
Mr Aqiidi’s testimony is full of misinformation ( to be polite). Rebels in Aleppo do not control 75% of the city,they indeed have not made any substantial gains and they do not control “all ” of reef Halab, rebel leaders are now as good as regime media in lying, the denial about Islamists is particularly amusing,I am sure mr Aqidi’s nose got bigger after that one, one thing for sure, the goal now is to create a safe or liberated zone north of Halab to relieve the Turks and pressure the regime further, that will require a victory or a semi victory in Aleppo, if the regime wins the battle in Aleppo,the army will head north.
Homs proper is not under regime control fully, in khalidiya the army has not been able to control that area yet, the rebels made advances in Idleb but the regime can not afford to let ma’rrat alnumaan stay in rebels hands. In summary, there is no quick end to this mess.

October 14th, 2012, 12:58 am

 

Syrian said:

أصدر لواء التوحيد ، أحد أكبر التشكيلات القتالية للجيش الحر في حلب وريفها ، بيانا حول احتراق الجامع الأموي عصر أمس السبت.

و أوضح اللواء في البيان الذي وصل عكس السير نسخة منه أن ” قيادة لواء التوحيد أوعزت للكتائب المرابطة على مقربة من المسجد الكبير بعدم التقدم كي لا يمتلك النظام مبرراً لتدمير المسجد, إلا أنه قرر الانسحاب منه في الساعة الرابعة عصراً , تاركاً وراءه ما يدل على بربريته وهمجيته إذا أضرم النيران في جنبات المسجد الطاهر الذي دنسه عناصر النظام طيلة الشهر الماضي بكل الأفعال المستفزة , التي تسببت باعتقال مدير المسجد الكبير حين انتقده , ولا يزال معتقلاً حتى اليوم “.

وأكد أن “النظام الذي قصف القلاع الأثرية, ودمر السوق القديم (المدينة) برصاصه الحارق, وقتل أفاضل العلماء والمثقفين, فلن يتورع عما قام به اليوم”.

و قال في البيان : “أننا أقسمنا على حماية الوطن من آلة دمار النظام , ولأن الحاضنة الشعبية بالنسبة لنا هي ضمانة الاستمرار, ولأن النظام لا يبحث عن مبرر للقتل والدمار, فنحن نعلن بأننا لن نسكت عن هذا الفعل مهما كلف الأمر”.
عكس السير
http://www.aksalser.com/?page=view_articles&id=427aef128a88e1d2e739201ac17a09d1&ar=792822745

October 14th, 2012, 1:17 am

 

Aldendeshe said:

In summary, there is no quick end to this mess.
________________________________________________________________

I have to be honest and say that these FSA fighters regardless of their rank and file makeup and bloody strategies that won them no favor among Syrians (me included), they surprisingly did put a hell of a fight, caused incredible amount of damage to Syria, the army, economy, way beyond what reported size of armament and enlisted numbers may be known. However, in the end, they have no chance, they failed to win the people over, in fact made enemies, were too sectarian and attempted to wage a war against professional, hardcore army. Israeli and American advisers gave them and (Erdogan) wrong assumptions and strategies, all flawed, they failed.

Now who is going to pay for damage and compensation to Syrians hurt by all this failed “Bay of Daraa” miserable failure, think we know who will be on the receiving end for that bill, whoever plotted this incredibly ignoramus campaign. Maybe the FSA would like to tell and expose some facts about this point. Obviously, a real ignorant people plotted this miserable failure.

Syria was one of the easiest countries in the Middle East, if not the world to flip. They should have 70-80% of the people behind them. Rather, they turned 98% of the people against them.

So FSA, come forward and expose some facts please, who are the Dim witted dumbFu***K that planned and plotted this failure end mean. Was that the intended outcome all along, just make a lot of damage, kill a lot of Syrians, rob the jewelry markets and fizzle? Was your warlord a Jew named Michael Harari by any chance.

October 14th, 2012, 1:37 am

 

Badr said:

From the executive summary of the newest report on Syria by the ICG:

Many myths surround Syria’s Salafis. They are not an expression of society’s authentic, truer identity; they are not merely a by-product of regime machinations; and they are not simply the result of growing Gulf Arab influence. Rather, they should be understood as one of the conflict’s numerous outgrowths and, not least, part of the profound identity crisis it has produced. In many ways, it is the mirror image of the simultaneous cult of violence and ruling-family worship that, to a striking degree, has emerged among Alawites. In both cases, the rise of more extremist, militant, quasi-millenarist worldviews is not deniable, but nor is it necessarily irreversible. Salafism, both cause and symptom of the opposition’s current shortcomings, is – like so much else in Syria – the expression of a bloody political and military stalemate that, for now, appears to have no way back, and no way out.

Read full report: Tentative Jihad: Syria’s Fundamentalist Opposition

October 14th, 2012, 1:50 am

 

Aldendeshe said:

I am trying to find out the best way to clandestinely contact President Assad. I do all of my serious business on “EYES ONLY” basis because I know what devises and people are there in places of interests.

Would like to submit to him an offer he will not refuse to resolve this conflict. Will be willing to send an SNP emissary to Damascus, otherwise, we can meet in Moscow, but there are so few members in his circle that is trust worthy, to me they all a bunch of Sulaiman’s. I barely can trust Bashar let alone others (how many secret deals made with Israel I wonder). I know a bunch of his Baathist Ambassadors on someone payroll, man worse that Iran, well maybe not that bad, so any recommendation on how best to manage contact with the President on “EYES ONLY” basis.

October 14th, 2012, 1:52 am

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah The One, Allah The Eternal, neither does He beget nor is He begotten nor is there to Him any equivalent.

Once again we offer our sincere thanks and gratitude to our noble Turkish brothers for their latest act of nobility in once again preventing tools of murder from arriving into the hands of murderous Nazi-like thugs, remnants of Mongolian rejects, who are occupying Damascus.

Our dear Turkish brothers intercepted a Lebanese ship laden with tools of murder from Ukrain and destined to be used in terrorist plots against the Syrian people by the heretic hizbillat, the Russian mafia and the terrorist thugs of the murderous regime. Turkish authorities confiscated the ship’s cargo ensuring in the process a increased sense of security among the people of Syrian.

بارجة تركية تعترض سفينة لبنانية وتوقفها / اخذ السفينة الى تركيا والسيطرة على حمولتها
Sunday, October 14, 2012 – 04:11 AM
حلق الطيران التركي قبالة المياه الاقليمية اللبنانية وساند بوارج بحرية في السيطرة على سفينة تم سوقها من قبالة الشاطئ اللبناني في العمق خارج المياه الاقليمية واخذت البحرية التركية السفينة الى ميناء تركي.

والسفينة اتية من اوكرانيا ويبدو ان تركيا تعتبر ان عليها اسلحة صاروخية وهذا ثاني حادث تصادر فيها تركيا حمولة تعتبرها اسلحة.

واتهمت تركيا سوريا بأنها تنقل أحدث صواريخ ارض جو عبر هذه السفينة واتهمت سوريا بأنها تريد انزال اسلحة في مرفأ بيروت ونقلها برا للجيش النظامي السوري ويجري ذلك فيما لا يوجد قرار دولي لمنع تسليح سوريا. فهل قررت تركيا منع ورود أسلحة الى سوريا؟.

هذا وقررت الطائرات السورية المدنية عدم المرور في الأجواء التركية واستعمال أجواء قبرص ولبنان للهبوط في مطار دمشق وتم اعطاء تعليمات للطيارين المدنيين السوريين بعدم الخضوع لأوامر الطائرات العسكرية التركية لإحراج تركيا ووضعها امام خيار اطلاق النار على طائرة مدنية سوريا آتية من موسكو.

October 14th, 2012, 2:08 am

 

Juergen said:

Just saw those pics on Facebook, can anyone confirm that the Umayad mosque in Aleppo was burned?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=379528892116511&set=a.134521283283941.23044.131596696909733&type=1&theater

October 14th, 2012, 2:44 am

 

Juergen said:

Here is a video:

October 14th, 2012, 2:49 am

 

Citizen said:

العراق يحظر عبور الطائرات التركية في أجوائه !!!

October 14th, 2012, 3:21 am

 

Citizen said:

Belligerence is infectious. The Turks are set to war with Syria, the Chinese are in a feud with Japan, the Jews want to bomb Iran, the Arabs want to rub out Israel, Russia has sent 90,000 troops to Syria, India fights with Pakistan, Greece is tearing itself apart, Spain is in turmoil, Catalonia wants to leave and become independent, and the world is smothered in a tsunami of debt.
http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/10/the-nwo-is-dead-on-arrival/

October 14th, 2012, 4:43 am

 

Citizen said:

When the facts are against you argue the law. When the law is against yo argue the facts. When both the facts and the law are against you, call the other guy names!

THE Obama administration has accused Russia of pursuing a “morally bankrupt” policy in Syria, following Turkey’s seizure of alleged Russian military equipment from a Syrian plane headed from Moscow to Damascus.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/russia-morally-bankrupt-on-syria-us/story-e6frf7k6-1226494840393

October 14th, 2012, 4:53 am

 

Mina said:

About the Aleppo mosque, already in august FSA was taking residence half in a mosque and half in the appartments of the families they kidnapped for this or that reason
http://www.liberation.fr/monde/2012/08/28/pere-et-fils-a-la-guerre-ou-on-voit-ca-pays-de-tares_842445

October 14th, 2012, 5:10 am

 

Mina said:

234 “the Copts supported Mubarak till the end”
Disgusting to read this sectarian propaganda again.
http://www.karimalrawi.com/writer/Writers_Blog/Entries/2011/3/17_Cross_and_Crescent.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12407793
http://www.tahrirdocuments.org/2011/03/wafd-youth-against-the-amendments/

By the way, if the Copts were pro regime why did he army shoot at them durig the Maspero demonstration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maspero_demonstrations

Last but not least, George Ishaq, one of the main figures of the Kafayya movement, who was demonstrating against Mubarak since 2004, is a Copt too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefaya

Of course now, I am again going to be bullied and to be called “a Copt”, since to take the defense of people against insults means for a brainless sectarian that you must belong to this group…

October 14th, 2012, 5:27 am

 

Mina said:

In Syria, killing factory members and sending suicide bombers is still the daily activity
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/55544/World/Region/Syria-Gunmen-kill–on-factory-bus-in-Homs.aspx

October 14th, 2012, 5:28 am

 

Citizen said:

Turkish Navy put on high alert
Turkey has put its naval taskforce in the Mediterranean on high alert and sent missile-carrying frigates and motor boats to Aksaz, Iskenderun, Mersin, Antalya and other naval bases, the Hurriyet newspaper reports. Earlier, a higher state of alert was announced in the Air Force.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_10_14/Turkish-Navy-put-on-high-alert/

October 14th, 2012, 6:09 am

 

Citizen said:

Syria: Russian Journalist about Terrorism and biased Media
Syria: Journalist Anhar Kochneva spoke about her experiences and opinions.
The Russian journalist Anhar Kochneva, who has several times already affirmed in reports and interviews that what is taking place in Syria is an organized terrorism supported by foreign sides and promoted by Arab and also foreign satellite channels to spread fear among Syrians and to spread false information into the world.

That al Arabiya and al Jazeera aren’t credible should be already clear for more and more people who try to follow the events and the coverage about the situation in Syria.

Anhar Kochneva (Kotschneva/Kotschnewa) is living and working in Syria since a long time and often travels through the country. This is no problem for her because the journalist Kochneva is able to speak Arabic fluently, thus the coverage of the events in Syria by her are indeed interesting and are carried out by own experiences and original statements; she doesn`t need a translator, for example.

On Tuesday, at a lecture delivery that has taken place at the Arab Cultural Center in Tartous in the Syrian coast town of Tartous (Tartus), the Russian journalist Anhar Kochneva has again stated that she has accompanied the Syrian Arab Army in several of military operations, e.g. in Damascus and the countryside of the Syrian capital.

She has documented and photographed her experiences. Afterwards, she has reported about these experiences in these the operations of the Syrian Arab Army. Anhar Kochneva has also visited the Syrian city of Homs and reported about the now sadly famous district of Baba Amr (Baba Amro) in June.

The journalist Kochneva has noted at this lecture delivery in Tartous that the Syrian soldiers of the Syrian Arab Army were committed to protecting the journalists who are with them, even if it cost them their lives while they try to protect the journalists.

She has again confirmed that the terrorist groups often try to attack the journalists who accompany the Syrian army and she also has affirmed that these groups of armed radicals have failed to affect the Syrians’ awareness and that is one of the reasons why these armed and Western-backed fighters and Islamists resorted to bombings, abduction, massacres and murder in order to manipulate the public opinion by using false-flag actions and staged videos / scenes, for example.

In addition, the Russian journalist Anhar Kochneva has also pointed out in her visit of this event in the Syrian city of Tartous (Tartus), that the Western main stream media broadcasts false news that are not based on the facts. Like a lot of other people in Syria and some foreigners who have also experienced this, the journalist has herself also verified personally the biased and false reporting by Western media.

Afterwards, Anhar Kochneva called on the Syrian media to continue in their coverage and to be faster with its reports from the ground in order to prevent e.g. the propaganda channels from some Gulf States like Qatar and Saudi Arabia from fabricating information and news again.

It is understandable that the Russian journalist also said that the non-democratic sanctions and the further decisions against the Syrian media confirm the Western hypocrisies and are finally something like a medal of honor for the Syrian journalists.

She also stressed that to emerge from the current crisis in Syria requires sacrifice, confidence, resilience, fidelity, and a lot of work, of course.

At this lecture delivery in the Syrian coast town of Tartous, this Russian journalist also showed some of her footage that she has personally recorded while she has entered areas with the Syrian Arab Army that were previously devastated by the U.S.-supported armed groups of fighters, religious fanatics, and mercenaries.

In further horrible videos, the other guests of this lecture delivery in Tartous were able to see, for example, that these armed groups of terrorists in Syria use children soldiers, even encourage them to wear weapons and to fight against the Syrian Arab army, but the videos also confirmed that these Western-backed terrorists commit massacres against Syrian civilians.
http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2012/10/syria-russian-journalist-about.html

October 14th, 2012, 7:08 am

 

Citizen said:

If information is not available, ask Syrian lovers!
Russian diplomats in Syria verifying reports on newswoman’s abduction
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/544534.html
CAIRO, October 12 (Itar-Tass) – Russian diplomats in Cairo are verifying reports on abduction of the Russian newswoman Ankhar Kochneva.
“We don’t have any concrete data on this issue at the moment,” Dmitry Lebedev, the chief of the Consulate Department of the Russian Embassy in Damascus told Itar-Tass.
“There’s no information on the abduction of any Russian citizens in Syria,” he said.
A number of mass media said earlier that Ankhar Kochneva, born in 1972, had disappeared near Homs. The last time she had a communications session was October 8.
Kochneva, who lives in Damascus and is broadly viewed as an expert on Syrian affairs, has been covering events in various parts of the conflict-torn Arab country. Her reports frequently exposed the crimes committed by the Syrian armed opposition who draw on amassed overt backing from abroad.
Ankhar Kochneva is not accredited with any media outlet and she works as a freelancer.

October 14th, 2012, 7:31 am

 

Observer said:

I have my doubts but this from a sympathetic source to the regime Alquds says that NK pilots are helping Freddo
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=latest/data/2012-10-14-06-48-50.htm

The regime is also using Russian made cluster bombs

October 14th, 2012, 8:12 am

 

zoo said:

Tara

I am moved to tears by Turkey’s generosity to ‘allow’ civilian Syrian planes in its airspace.

“Turkey has not announced such a ban, although it has said it will continue to ground Syrian civilian planes it suspects are carrying military cargo.”

October 14th, 2012, 8:19 am

 

Tara said:

A Suicide bombing in Damascus targeting a balcony

Syria’s state news agency said a suicide bomber attacked a coffee shop in a residential Damascus neighbourhood, causing damage but no fatalities.

Sana says the explosion took place at dawn on the capital’s Masseh road.

An Associated Press reporter at the site says the blast destroyed a balcony and ripped off a building facade.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/oct/14/syria-bans-turkish-flights-live#block-507a802bc0e361310bc6ce4d

October 14th, 2012, 8:53 am

 

zoo said:

#248

“to those who betrayed the trust of the masses and support a dictator against his people to maintain their perceived privileges.”

You are already biased in your question. What percentage of the population you call ‘masses’? Treason? Who repeatedly asked for foreign military intervention? Who makes use of Islamist foreign fighters? Who get weapons from foreign countries? That’s high treason in any country. Privileges? Do you think a simple soldier in the Syrian army has ‘perceived’ privileges? Are the soldiers prisoners of fear? Come on, this argument is dead a along time ago.

In countries like Syria with such a complex mix or ethnicity and religion, and with powerful neighbors who don’t hesitate to intervene to support one religious group against the other, is a 100% instant democratic government possible?
Turkey is in war for decades against its own population, the Kurds, because of their different ethnicity. Turkey has been a ‘democracy’ for 60 years under a authoritarian military regime, and now the AKP is a ‘democracy’ under an authoritarian religious regime. Yet, it is still at war with its own citizens and no one sees an end to it.

And what about the external threat to Syria with the military presence of Israel who has no recognized borders and who have hegemonic designs?

Presenting the situation in Syria in romantic terms of the ‘oppressed’ Syrians seeking their freedom is very narrow and does not reflect the geopolitical reality. Syria is unfortunately not an island.
A gradual move toward democracy certainly needed but not by destroying a country and by throwing the Syrians into a vicious circle of killings and retaliation.
As long as the opposition persists in imposing its conditions to a dialog with the present government, it bears a large part the responsibility of the continuation of the killing, destruction and the displacement of innocents. The FSA betrayal is now widely exposed by their use in the ground of Syria of extremists foreign fighters, suicide bombers and the money of rich Arab countries with a sinister agenda.
If you are looking for ‘traitors’ maybe you are looking at the wrong side?

October 14th, 2012, 9:19 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo,

“moved to tears”?.  I think this will make you toughen up:

Turkey makes new border threat
There’s been more bellicose rhetoric from Turkey, the Turkish daily Zaman reports.

Turkey will retaliate without hesitation if its border with Syria is violated again and if it believes that its national security is in danger, Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu.

Zaman quotes him saying:

When it comes to security, Turkey’s border is equal to the Norwegian border as far as Nato is concerned. The security of these borders is the security of Nato. So we believe that this solidarity will continue.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/oct/14/syria-bans-turkish-flights-live#block-507a9e6258f91d7bbadac510

October 14th, 2012, 9:25 am

 

zoo said:

With the collapse of the army and the police, Libya is in the hands of armed militias

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/world/africa/libyan-government-struggles-to-rein-in-powerful-militias.html?pagewanted=all

“No government that is worthy of being called a government would allow this,” he said. “But we have a government that exists only on paper.”

October 14th, 2012, 9:43 am

 

Tara said:

Why can’t Qatar say no to Iran?  They simply can say that they have no influence on the rebels such as the Iranians say they have no influence on Batta?  Shouldn’t it be a tit for tat or does Qatar wants to look like influential?  

• Iran’s foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi has visited Qatar to discuss the fate of 48 Iranians kidnapped by rebels in Syria, according to Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency. Iran has called on Turkey and Qatar to use their links with rebel groups to help secure their freedom. Last weekend the al-Baraa brigade, part of the main rebel group, the Free Syrian Army, said it would start killing the Iranians within 48 hours unless Assad freed Syrian opposition detainees and stopped shelling civilian areas.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/13/uk-syria-crisis-iran-qatar-idUKBRE89C0B820121013

October 14th, 2012, 9:55 am

 

Tara said:

# 305

It is arrogant if intentional and I do not like it.

October 14th, 2012, 9:58 am

 
 

Syrialover said:

ZOO writes (#305):

“You are already biased in your question.”

So ZOO responds by being far, far more biased in his answer.

But then he slips on his own thin ice by (unconsciously?) delivering a explosive backand blow to Bashar Assad with the words:

“A gradual move toward democracy certainly needed but not by destroying a country and by throwing the Syrians into a vicious circle of killings and retaliation.”

That’s exactly what the world’s been chanting to Syria-hater Bashar while he plays out his demented determination to burn the country rather than concede one iota of power.

October 14th, 2012, 10:34 am

 

Norman said:

Only a regional war will end this, It has to get bigger to get smaller.

October 14th, 2012, 10:45 am

 

zoo said:

306. Tara
Turkey’s arrogance threatens “zero problem policy” with Russia.

Analysts: Turkish-Russian Tensions Could Spread to Middle East

Dorian Jones, VOA
http://www.payvand.com/news/12/oct/1110.html
ISTANBUL – Russia pressed ahead with an angry flow of rhetoric Friday, demanding that Turkish authorities reveal exactly what type of munitions they claim to have found aboard a Syrian airliner forced down over Turkey on Wednesday. The incident comes as Russian-Turkish relations grow increasingly tense.

“The Russians are obviously blistering and the Turkish government has the obligation to provide evidence that there was ammunition on the plane. And if they can’t, I am sure the Russians are going to be even more bitter. I am sure they are going to respond to this,” Ozel said.

Relations are already strained, with Moscow strongly supporting the Syrian government and Ankara backing the rebels. But political scientist Cengiz Aktar of Bahcesehir University says powerful commercial interests will contain the latest dispute.

“The two countries are heavily trading. They have become important trading partners over the years. I don’t think the disagreements regarding Syria will affect this trade partnership between the two countries,” Aktar said.

Last year, a Russian company won $1 billion contract to build a nuclear reactor in Turkey.

Ankara, one of the biggest consumers of Russian energy, is lobbying to become an energy hub to distribute Russian energy to the region.

Despite these commercial ventures, Erdogan has recently stepped up his rhetoric against Moscow over its support of Syrian President Bashar al Assad.

Political scientist Aktar says Ankara underestimates the importance of Moscow in the region.

“So far Ankara does not take Russia seriously but maybe it should. Russia is a full partner in the Eastern Mediterranean game and therefore Turkey needs to take Russia seriously,” Aktar said.
….

October 14th, 2012, 10:51 am

 

Syrialover said:

CITIZEN,

You keep telling us in detail about the missing Russian journalist’s active pro-regime stance in the current conflict.

You must also have read the reports of anti-Russian demonstrations and threats against Russians by civilians in Syria, angry at that country’s blatant interference and involvement in the destruction of their country.

As one of the few journalists officially facilitated and permitted to report for the outside press inside Syria, the expectation is that she would have been under government protection.

There have been journalists killed or missing who were far more neutral in their reporting and not connected with any active participating nations.

October 14th, 2012, 10:57 am

 

zoo said:

308. Tara said:

“Why can’t Qatar say no to Iran?”

Because they fear Iran, as simple as that.
Iran has one of the most powerful army in the region, Qatar has gas, malls and bellies.

October 14th, 2012, 10:59 am

 

zoo said:

The Alawites and the Future of Syria

by Harold Rhode
October 12, 2012 at 6:00 am
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3394/alawites-syria

Assad and the Alawites cannot give in. They are fighting for their very existence. The only way to end this civil war is to let them have control over their destiny — either as an autonomous region in Syria or as an independent entity.

The Alawites are a small, historically oppressed people, whose political future will determine whether Syria remains united in some form or disintegrates into even smaller ethnic and religious entities.

This is because Syrian Sunnis have historically referred to individual Alawites as “abid” [slave], and treated the Alawites as such. The Alawites were servants in Sunni households. Alawite tradition is filled with horror stories of Sunni abuse, both working in Sunni households and in other areas of as well.

The Alawites, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, were terribly discriminated against under Sunni rule. The Sunnis attitude towards the Alawites – and towards the other non-Muslims – was “noblesse oblige,” or an attitude of condescension, if not outright hostility.

Under the French and in the early years of Syrian independence after 1946, wealthy and respectable Sunnis did not want to have their sons serve in the military. Their Alawite servants, however, recognizing the military as a way to advance, persuaded their Sunni masters to sign recommendations to allow the children of their Alawite servants enter the military. Gradually, the Alawites rose in the ranks. Eventually in 1966, they overthrew the existing order to took over the country, and have dominated it since.
..
They only way to end this civil war is to let them have control over their destiny – either as an autonomous region in Syria, or as an independent entity. Whatever happens, they will insist that they remain well-armed. They – like other minorities in the Middle East – will continue to live in eternal fear of the Arab Sunnis. As the concept of overlooking past grievances is alien to the culture of that region, true peace between the Alawites and the Arab Sunnis – or, for that matter, Arab Sunnis and non-Arab Sunnis – is sadly out of the question.

October 14th, 2012, 11:04 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo @315

Zoo, fear what exactly? The US will not let Iran do anything to Qatar.

And if true, that Iran is to be feared by the Arabs, then all Arabs should unite to dismantle it’s power, no?

October 14th, 2012, 11:05 am

 

Citizen said:

Washington Plays Hardball With Russia On Syria

If words could kill, America and Russia might be at war. Hopefully it won’t come to that. Given America’s rage to fight, even the unthinkable is possible.

Russia and China represent Washington’s final frontier. Building up around their borders and encircling both countries with US bases makes anything ahead possible.

Prioritizing peace isn’t America’s long suit. Unchallenged global dominance assures war. One country after another is ravaged. Multiple direct and proxy wars remain ongoing. Flashpoints easily shift from one region to another or target several at the same time.
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.fr/2012/10/washington-plays-hardball-with-russia.html

October 14th, 2012, 11:06 am

 

zoo said:

The Qatari Takeover of France

by Peter Martino • October 10, 2012 at 5:00 am
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3392/qatar-france

French politicians such as President François Hollande hope that Qatari funds will help fight poverty in disadvantaged Muslim neighborhoods, They assume that poverty is the cause of France’s social problems. They should, however, know better. The problems in the suburbs of Seine-Saint-Denis and elsewhere are not caused by poverty, but by the unwillingness of many Muslims to integrate into French society.

It is notable that he first foreign leader to be received by French President François Hollande at the Elysée Palace after his election last May was Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar — an event that illustrates the importance to Hollande of this Persian Gulf Emirate that is barely the size of the French province of Corsica.

October 14th, 2012, 11:08 am

 

Citizen said:

Saudi National Guard Officer Killed in NW Syria
TEHRAN (FNA)- The Syrian army killed a Saudi national guard officer near the northwestern city of Idlib late Saturday.

The Saudi officer, Salem al-Harbi, was killed during fierce clashes between the army and the terrorists in the suburbs of Idlib, the Iran-based al-Alam news network reported.

Al-Harbi was killed along with five Saudi and Turk nationals in suburban Idlib.

The army also killed 13 armed rebels in Deir al-Zour province.

In a relevant development, the Syrian army killed over 400 terrorists during military operations in the different districts of Aleppo and Homs on Saturday.

The army units conducted extensive operations in Jouret Shiyah region of Homs on Saturday which resulted in the death of tens of terrorists.

Scores of terrorist commanders were also among those killed in both Aleppo and Homs on Saturday. The army killed 25 armed rebels only in Bab al-Hood district of Homs.

The Syrian army killed scores of Saudi and Qatari terrorists in Karam al-Jabal district of Aleppo, Syria’s second largest city which is also its commercial hub.

On Friday, Syrian newspaper al-Baath released the names of a number of the Saudi and Qatari nationals who were killed during the army clashes with terrorists in the city of Aleppo on Friday.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since March 2011 with organized attacks by well-armed gangs against Syrian police forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed, when some protest rallies turned into armed clashes.

The government blames outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups for the deaths, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

In October 2011, calm was eventually restored in the Arab state after President Assad started a reform initiative in the country, but Israel, the US and its Arab allies are seeking hard to bring the country into chaos through any possible means. Tel Aviv, Washington and some Arab capitals have been staging various plots in the hope of increasing unrests in Syria.

October 14th, 2012, 11:10 am

 

zoo said:

#317 Tara

“then all Arabs should unite to dismantle it’s power, no?”

Saddam Hussein, helped by the USA, the EU and the all the Arab countries, except Syria, already tried that with the success we know.

I doubt any Arab country has any power to try again.,

October 14th, 2012, 11:12 am

 

Sami said:

Alawites and Alevis: What’s in a name

By Khairi Abaza and Soner Cagaptay

Tensions are rising on the Turkish-Syrian border, as Turkey recently became the first country to take direct military action against the al-Assad regime since Syria’s uprising began in spring 2011. In response to the Syrian shelling of the Turkish town of Akcakale on October 3rd, an incident which killed 5 people, Ankara began shelling Syrian military targets. What is more, Turkey has issued a number of escalation threats — on October 7th, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned that “although Turkey does not want war, it is close to war,” suggesting that Ankara is concerned with the spillover effect of the Syrian conflict in Turkey.

One major concern in this regard is the sectarian dimension of the Syrian conflict. The fighting in Syria is increasingly taking on sectarian overtones as fighting between the Assad regime and the rebels morphs into a conflict between Alawites loyal to Assad and Sunni militants opposing his rule. This is a cause of grave concern for Turkey because it is home to a community of half a million Arab Alawites on its southern Syrian border. Furthermore, Turkey’s Alawites reside predominantly in the Hatay province, which also hosts a large number of Syrian Sunni Arab refugees, and until recently served as a base of operations for Syrian rebel and civilian opposition groups. Reflecting the sectarian nature of the conflict in Syria, tensions have emerged lately in Hatay between Turkish citizens of Arab Alawite origin and Syrian Sunni refugees. Local Alawites, joined by various far-left groups, have staged numerous protests against the increasing Syrian refugee presence in the city. Such demonstrations have called for closing down the “terrorist” camps that allegedly house Sunni fighters.

What is more, Arab Alawites in Hatay also oppose Ankara’s policy of confronting the Assad regime. A local paper in Hatay recently published a column that accused the Ankara government of disregarding Alawite concerns and openly supporting Sunni fighters in Hatay. There have also been significant ongoing demonstrations against supporting the opposition in Syria.

Problems between the Arab Alawites in Hatay and the government in Ankara are leading some to surmise a broader cleavage between Turkey’s Alevis — a community that represents 10-15 percent of Turkey’s 74 million citizens — and the Ankara government. Partly due to their similar names (Alevi vs. Alawite), many commentators appear to be confusing the groups, leading them to the erroneous conclusion that Alevis are close kin to the religious sect that controls Damascus. Alawites and Alevis alike represent non-Orthodox Islam, and the two groups have similar-sounding names because of their shared reverence for Ali, son-in-law of Mohamed. Nevertheless, Alawites and Alevis are in fact different groups ethnically and theologically, and confusing the two would be akin to saying that all Protestants are protestors. Just to name a few, here is a list of five ethnic and theological differences between the Alawites and the Alevis, detailed in length in a recent article published in Turkish daily Zaman:

1. Alevis are Turkish; some are Kurdish, but all of these groups pray in Turkish testifying to the Turkish roots of Alevism — Alevis are uniquely the only Muslims in the world who worship in a language other than Arabic. The Alawites in the Levante, on the other hand, are ethnic Arabs who pray in Arabic.

2. Alevis recognize the Quran, but often do not take its imperatives on worship and rite literally. Alawites reportedly believe that the Quran is distorted and that the original Quran is missing — or that their version is the original one. They also conduct their own rituals distinct from other groups.

3. Alawites view Ali as being divine, whereas Alevis merely respect him, among other reasons, as the first convert to Islam — an attitude not uncommon among many faithful Muslims, including Sunnis.

4. Alawites reportedly believe that Ali is god’s reincarnation, Alevis do not. Also whereas Alawites believe in reincarnation, Alevis think that heaven and hell, or afterlife, might exist, or that these could be allegories, giving the concepts an almost Dantesque flavor for the Alevis.

5. The Alawite faith is not open to women, and it is not traditionally taught to them; whereas Alevi men and women pray together, casting the Alevis unique among Muslims for not segregating men and women during worship.

As such, it would be a grave error to mistake the Turkish Alevi community for the Alawite communities on the Turkish-Syrian border. Confusing the two distinct groups would only serve to stoke sectarian tensions and further divide the Turkish public on the issue of involvement in Syria. Some Alevis, like many other staunchly secular-minded Turks, take issue with the rise of Sunni Muslim Brotherhood-led regimes in Damascus, which they fear might discriminate against or even persecute “non-orthodox” sects. Others, but also many Sunni Turks, are concerned over the security risks for Turkey of becoming more deeply involved on one side of the Syrian civil war. But Turkey’s Alevis as a whole, unlike Syria’s Alawites as a whole, are not predominantly supporters of Assad’s regime.

….

http://fikraforum.org/?p=2764

October 14th, 2012, 11:15 am

 

Syrialover said:

To those who keep posting stories on Russia demanding an explanation of the detention of the aircraft in Turkey, I repeat what I posted in #237. Excerpt:

““…the mystery surrounding the cargo that was aboard the Syrian A-320 airbus that was compelled to land by Turkish jet fighters may have been cleared up, with an admission by Russian arms officials that materials for use in Syrian anti-aircraft radars may have been aboard.

On Friday, the Moscow business daily Kommersant, citing unnamed Russian arms industry officials, said the plane was carrying 12 boxes of electronic components for use in Syrian air defense systems, along with legal documentation for the equipment.”

COMMENT: Stop wasting acres of space here with Putin’s embarrassed propaganda response to leaks and free media in his own country.

October 14th, 2012, 11:18 am

 

Citizen said:

Let the Turkish adminstration Drinks all their three seas!

Turkey bans all Syrian flights over its territory
Syrian planes have been banned from Turkish air space, the Turkish foreign ministry has announced.
The ban follows similar restrictions imposed by Syria, after a Syrian plane alleged to be carrying Russian munitions was intercepted by Turkey.
Turkey’s ban came in on Saturday night and was communicated to Syria, but was only made public on Sunday.
It applies to civilian aircraft, as military aircraft were already de facto banned, a ministry official said.
The Syrian move followed Turkey’s interception on Wednesday of a Syrian jet, which Turkish warplanes forced to land in Ankara….
http://12160.info/page/turkey-bans-all-syrian-flights-over-its-territory

October 14th, 2012, 11:19 am

 

Son of Damascus said:

A really good read.

Alawites and Alevis: What’s in a name?
By Khairi Abaza and Soner Cagaptay

Tensions are rising on the Turkish-Syrian border, as Turkey recently became the first country to take direct military action against the al-Assad regime since Syria’s uprising began in spring 2011. In response to the Syrian shelling of the Turkish town of Akcakale on October 3rd, an incident which killed 5 people, Ankara began shelling Syrian military targets. What is more, Turkey has issued a number of escalation threats — on October 7th, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned that “although Turkey does not want war, it is close to war,” suggesting that Ankara is concerned with the spillover effect of the Syrian conflict in Turkey.

One major concern in this regard is the sectarian dimension of the Syrian conflict. The fighting in Syria is increasingly taking on sectarian overtones as fighting between the Assad regime and the rebels morphs into a conflict between Alawites loyal to Assad and Sunni militants opposing his rule. This is a cause of grave concern for Turkey because it is home to a community of half a million Arab Alawites on its southern Syrian border. Furthermore, Turkey’s Alawites reside predominantly in the Hatay province, which also hosts a large number of Syrian Sunni Arab refugees, and until recently served as a base of operations for Syrian rebel and civilian opposition groups. Reflecting the sectarian nature of the conflict in Syria, tensions have emerged lately in Hatay between Turkish citizens of Arab Alawite origin and Syrian Sunni refugees. Local Alawites, joined by various far-left groups, have staged numerous protests against the increasing Syrian refugee presence in the city. Such demonstrations have called for closing down the “terrorist” camps that allegedly house Sunni fighters.

What is more, Arab Alawites in Hatay also oppose Ankara’s policy of confronting the Assad regime. A local paper in Hatay recently published a column that accused the Ankara government of disregarding Alawite concerns and openly supporting Sunni fighters in Hatay. There have also been significant ongoing demonstrations against supporting the opposition in Syria.

Problems between the Arab Alawites in Hatay and the government in Ankara are leading some to surmise a broader cleavage between Turkey’s Alevis — a community that represents 10-15 percent of Turkey’s 74 million citizens — and the Ankara government. Partly due to their similar names (Alevi vs. Alawite), many commentators appear to be confusing the groups, leading them to the erroneous conclusion that Alevis are close kin to the religious sect that controls Damascus. Alawites and Alevis alike represent non-Orthodox Islam, and the two groups have similar-sounding names because of their shared reverence for Ali, son-in-law of Mohamed. Nevertheless, Alawites and Alevis are in fact different groups ethnically and theologically, and confusing the two would be akin to saying that all Protestants are protestors. Just to name a few, here is a list of five ethnic and theological differences between the Alawites and the Alevis, detailed in length in a recent article published in Turkish daily Zaman:

1. Alevis are Turkish; some are Kurdish, but all of these groups pray in Turkish testifying to the Turkish roots of Alevism — Alevis are uniquely the only Muslims in the world who worship in a language other than Arabic. The Alawites in the Levante, on the other hand, are ethnic Arabs who pray in Arabic.

2. Alevis recognize the Quran, but often do not take its imperatives on worship and rite literally. Alawites reportedly believe that the Quran is distorted and that the original Quran is missing — or that their version is the original one. They also conduct their own rituals distinct from other groups.

3. Alawites view Ali as being divine, whereas Alevis merely respect him, among other reasons, as the first convert to Islam — an attitude not uncommon among many faithful Muslims, including Sunnis.

4. Alawites reportedly believe that Ali is god’s reincarnation, Alevis do not. Also whereas Alawites believe in reincarnation, Alevis think that heaven and hell, or afterlife, might exist, or that these could be allegories, giving the concepts an almost Dantesque flavor for the Alevis.

5. The Alawite faith is not open to women, and it is not traditionally taught to them; whereas Alevi men and women pray together, casting the Alevis unique among Muslims for not segregating men and women during worship.

As such, it would be a grave error to mistake the Turkish Alevi community for the Alawite communities on the Turkish-Syrian border. Confusing the two distinct groups would only serve to stoke sectarian tensions and further divide the Turkish public on the issue of involvement in Syria. Some Alevis, like many other staunchly secular-minded Turks, take issue with the rise of Sunni Muslim Brotherhood-led regimes in Damascus, which they fear might discriminate against or even persecute “non-orthodox” sects. Others, but also many Sunni Turks, are concerned over the security risks for Turkey of becoming more deeply involved on one side of the Syrian civil war. But Turkey’s Alevis as a whole, unlike Syria’s Alawites as a whole, are not predominantly supporters of Assad’s regime.

[…]

http://fikraforum.org/?p=2764

October 14th, 2012, 11:21 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo,

I think Iran is already weakened. It did it to itself. Supporting Assad despite their stated “principals” is what will eventually break their back. And just an FYi, I, been a long term admirer, have never wished them so in the past but they did it to themselves and in my opinion, it is well deserved, betraying what they say they stand for..

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=16376&cp=5#comment-331352

October 14th, 2012, 11:24 am

 

Syrialover said:

TARA (#317 and #325),

The world can relax and watch as the mullahs themelves disable Iran’s power. They have locked themselves into a doom spiral, both internally and externally.

Excerpt from article:

Religion — in the form of politicized Islam — is the foundation of the state and the sole source of clerical leaders’ legitimacy. Without a rigid Islamist ideology, the ayatollahs would become irrelevant.

Traditional police tactics have been complemented by purges that are devouring the old guard, the intelligentsia and the technocratic elite. A theocratic state that once featured a diversity of religious factions is being rapidly transformed into a totalitarian state.

And Ayatollah Khamenei and his allies don’t mind being ostracized by the international community; they welcome the isolation.

For now the Islamic Republic endures like other autocracies in the Middle East. But the alienation of the population and the fragmentation of the elite will mean an uneasy future. With its politics so polarized, Iran cannot sustain its legitimacy on the basis of economic performance, backed by oil. The violence of 2009 severed an essential bond between the state and society.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/opinion/why-iran-cant-follow-chinas-lead.html?_r=3&

October 14th, 2012, 11:34 am

 

Syrialover said:

SON OF DAMASCUS (# 324)

A useful read indeed thank you.

October 14th, 2012, 11:41 am

 

Ghufran said:

قرر سلاح الجو الروسي ارسال 30 طائرة الى قبرص لتكون قبالة الشواطئ التركية والسورية واللبنانية والطائرات هي السوخوي 35 احدث نوع من الطائرات المقاتلة الروسية.
وستقوم الطائرات الروسية بحوالي 10 دوريات يوميا في الأجواء قبالة قبرص التركية
الطائرات التركية تخرق كل يوم اجواء قبرص التركية وتمر فوق اجواء قبرص اليونانية ولكن ليس فوق العاصمة انما في أجوائها .
وصرح مسؤول روسي ان موسكو تعتبر اجواء قبرص اليونانية هي اجواء روسيا الاتحادية وهي لا تقبل من الطائرات التركية او غيرها من التحليق فوق قبرص اليونانية .
3 Turkish soldiers were wounded today after clashes with “smugglers” near the Syrian borders, one unwanted result of northern Syria becoming a “free zone” is transforming that area into a free war zone where armed groups from all sides,except the Syrian army, fight over territories and goods,Turkey has the most to lose from this situation as Kurds and non Kurds will try to protect their turf(s) and Turkish alevis will get increasingly agitated at the obvious threat Islamist groups pose to their areas. Turkish alevis are not identical to alawis in Syria but most of the differences between the two groups are due to policies of both regimes in Turkey and Syria, as divisions in the region deepen,alevis and alawis will get closer not the opposite.
Turkey may find itself in a situation where a third of its population feel targeted or marginalized which will leave Anqara with difficult choices if a political settlement is not found,Turkish leaders could conclude that the condition before March,2011 despite all of its flaws was better than this new quagmire, the problem is that the pre March 2011 era is gone for good.

October 14th, 2012, 11:52 am

 

Syrialover said:

Read serious analysis and you’ll find the opinion that if Russia is forced to choose between Turkey and Syria it will choose Turkey.

This is because energy is central to Russia’s economy, and it relies on significant regional oil and gas pipelines and loading facilities that depend on Turkish cooperaton.

Those controlling the wealth in Russia will allow Putin his paranoid defiant swaggering about Syria to go only so far.

October 14th, 2012, 11:53 am

 

zoo said:

Tara

What weakens Iran’s economy is the sanctions imposed on it because if the development of nuclear capacities that may threaten the USA allies in the region, the GCC and Israel.
It is also the ruling of the religion on the country which has turned into a burden for secular oriented Iranians.

Siding on Syria’s legitimate government will not weaken Iran, or Russia or China.
Turkey by its meddling in Syria’s internal affairs is the one who will weaken on medium term, especially if it continues to escalate the tension with Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia . Turkey has no oil and no gas, therefore totally dependent on other countries to supply it. It is now dependent on Iran, Iraq and Russia and is trying to diversify to make use of Qatar’s gas. Turkey’s problems with the Turkish Kurds (20% of Turks) is far from solved and will continue to poison the country for decades to come.

On long term Russia and China’s value as non-intervening trade partners will be preferred to countries that have political agendas in the region, such as the USA, the EU and Turkey.

Iran needs to move to a more liberal government and this is going to happen gradually with the new generation. Iran is a mine of knowledge, culture and unexploited natural resources and it has a bright future having gone through several dictatorships and religious rulers. It is just a matter of time that change occurs and it will not be bloody or messy.

October 14th, 2012, 12:11 pm

 

Ghufran said:

There is a decent summary about alevi Turks from UNHCR, one point to consider is that alevi in the south are mostly Syrians who stayed after Turkey occupied Liwaa Iskandaron.
Syrians from that area who were expelled from Liwaa Iskandaron were typically more religious than other alawis in Syria, their kids,however,are now indistinguishable from other alawis who are mostly non religious. Assads were instrumental in the unfortunate trend where many alawites left the teachings of their moderate teachers and decided to replace that with the teachings of Assads mukhabarati sheikhs or even the teachings of Assads themselves (Jamil in particular posed as Ameer Almumineen).

October 14th, 2012, 12:12 pm

 

zoo said:

Turkey was not and will never be a model

By MAGDY AZIZ TOBIA
10/13/2012 22:53
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=287688

A question worth scrutiny is who promoted the idea of a Turkish model to be followed by Arab Spring countries?

The brotherhood includes within its broad Islamic ideology a variety of trends ranging from jihadism to peaceful involvement in democracy. However, it is worth noting that the brotherhood is the mother organization of almost all jihadi movements.

Among members of the Muslim Brotherhood who sought to reach power through violence were those who murdered Egyptian prime minister “El-Nokrashy Pasha” (1948), fired shots at Gamal Abdel Nasser (1954), killed Egyptian intellectual “Farag Foda” and attempted to kill Egyptian Nobel Laureate Naguib Mahfouz (1993).

The AKP, en route to power, presented a tangible economic program and vowed to finalize the democratic transition. The brotherhood ascendancy is surrounded by question marks regarding electoral bribes, manipulation of religion, receipt of external funds, negative campaigning against liberals, exploitation of illiteracy and a fake renaissance project.

Last but not least, let’s not forget that the AKP is under fierce criticism over violations of freedom of expression, as hundreds of activists and journalists have been imprisoned.

Turkey ranks 148 out of 178 on the press freedom index. The AKP currently appoints its loyal judges to the supreme court. It is crystal clear that the AKP is getting increasingly authoritarian, so why is it a model to be followed?

October 14th, 2012, 12:22 pm

 

Syrialover said:

New thread started

October 14th, 2012, 12:40 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Fresh post up.

October 14th, 2012, 12:41 pm

 

syrain said:

328. Ghufran said:

قرر سلاح الجو الروسي ارسال 30 طائرة الى قبرص لتكون قبالة الشواطئ التركي والسورية واللبنانية والطائرات هي السوخوي 35 احدث نوع من الطائرات المقاتلة الروسية.”

وصرح مسؤول روسي ان موسكو تعتبر اجواء قبرص اليونانية هي اجواء روسيا الاتحادية وهي لا تقبل من الطائرات التركية او غيرها من التحليق فوق قبرص اليونانية .”
LOL,Where did you get this one?
the comment section of Bashar’s face book Page?

October 14th, 2012, 1:33 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

test

October 14th, 2012, 2:07 pm

 

Citizen said:

329. GHUFRAN сказал :
قرر سلاح الجو الروسي ارسال 30 طائرة الى قبرص لتكون قبالة الشواطئ التركية والسورية واللبنانية والطائرات هي السوخوي 35 احدث نوع من الطائرات المقاتلة الروسية.
وستقوم الطائرات الروسية بحوالي 10 دوريات يوميا في الأجواء قبالة قبرص التركية
it’s just a news bomb

October 14th, 2012, 2:30 pm

 

Citizen said:

W. Tarpley: “Erdogan nervous on Syria rebel defeats”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SYxdayCcWo

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has gone hysterical over the defeats inflicted on the insurgents in Syria, a political analyst tells Press TV.

According to public surveys, only 5 to 10 percent of the Turkish people support their government’s policies towards Syria.

This comes as tensions have been running high between Syria and Turkey, with Damascus accusing Turkey — along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar — of backing a deadly insurgency that has claimed the lives of many Syrians, including large numbers of security and army personnel.

October 14th, 2012, 2:52 pm

 

Citizen said:

Something dramatic may be in the works regarding a potential US attack against either Syria and/or Iran is in the works, and that the final details will be honed in Israel during the last phases of the US/Israeli military exercises here.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-chief-of-staff-to-likely-visit-israel-this-month/
US chief of staff will likely visit Israel this month
Martin Dempsey expected to be on hand for the conclusion of the joint training exercise ‘Austere Challenge 12′

October 14th, 2012, 3:05 pm

 

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