Obama Worries Syria Intervention Would Backfire; Medvedev Says Assad Losing Power by the Day

Medvedev: Assad made “grave error” over reforms, “It seems to me that his chances of staying are shrinking day by day”
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Obama Seems to Believe Syria Intervention would Backfire
Wash Post Blog on Obama’s statement on Syria on 60 minutes

But in Syria, his administration wants to make sure U.S. action would not backfire, he said.

“We do nobody a service when we leap before we look, where we … take on things without having thought through all the consequences of it,” Obama told CBS.

“We are not going to be able to control every aspect of every transition and transformation” in conflicts around the world, he said. “Sometimes they’re going to go sideways.” (Editing by Mohammad Zargham)

Hillary Clinton on Syria (60 Minutes)

“I’m older than the president,” she joked, then turned serious. “I remember some of the speeches of Eisenhower as a young girl. You know you’ve  got to be careful, you have to be thoughtful, you can’t rush in, especially now where it’s more complex now than it’s been in decades.”

Clinton called Syria a “wicked problem” that highlights the delicate balancing act of how to make sure U.S. foreign policy upholds American values and freedom in situations where the solution has the potential to be worse than the problem.

Clinton said the president’s policy on Syria has been appropriately measured.

“I’m certainly grateful for the president’s steady hand and hard questions and thoughtful analysis as to what we should and shouldn’t do,” he said.

President Obama to CHRIS HUGHES of New Republic

CH: The last question is about Syria. I wonder if you can speak about how you personally, morally, wrestle with the ongoing violence there.

Obama: Every morning, I have what’s called the PDB—presidential daily briefing—and our intelligence and national security teams come in here and they essentially brief me on the events of the previous day. And very rarely is there good news. And a big chunk of my day is occupied by news of war, terrorism, ethnic clashes, violence done to innocents. And what I have to constantly wrestle with is where and when can the United States intervene or act in ways that advance our national interest, advance our security, and speak to our highest ideals and sense of common humanity.

And as I wrestle with those decisions, I am more mindful probably than most of not only our incredible strengths and capabilities, but also our limitations. In a situation like Syria, I have to ask, can we make a difference in that situation? Would a military intervention have an impact? How would it affect our ability to support troops who are still in Afghanistan? What would be the aftermath of our involvement on the ground? Could it trigger even worse violence or the use of chemical weapons? What offers the best prospect of a stable post-Assad regime? And how do I weigh tens of thousands who’ve been killed in Syria versus the tens of thousands who are currently being killed in the Congo?

Those are not simple questions. And you process them as best you can. You make the decisions you think balance all these equities, and you hope that, at the end of your presidency, you can look back and say, I made more right calls than not and that I saved lives where I could, and that America, as best it could in a difficult, dangerous world, was, net, a force for good.

Prince Turki al-Faisal on Syria at Davos

On Friday, a senior member of Saudi Arabia’s monarchy said militants should be given sophisticated arms, including anti-aircraft weapons.

“What is needed are sophisticated, high-level weapons that can bring down planes, can take out tanks at a distance. This is not getting through,” Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former intelligence chief and brother of the Saudi foreign minister, said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

“I’m not in government so I don’t have to be diplomatic. I assume we’re sending weapons and if we were not sending weapons it would be terrible mistake on our part,” Faisal said, adding that “You have to level the playing field…”

Jihadists and Secular Activists Clash in Syria
By HANIA MOURTADA and ANNE BARNARD, January 26, 2013

BEIRUT, Lebanon — The tensions had been simmering for months in the northern Syrian town of Saraqib. Civilian antigovernment activists had complained of rebel fighters who needlessly destroyed a milk factory and treated residents disrespectfully. A growing contingent of jihadist fighters from the ideologically extreme and militarily formidable Nusra Front was suspicious of the activists’ secular, nonviolent agenda.

On Thursday, mistrust erupted into confrontation. Masked men believed to be with Al Nusra raided the headquarters of two secular civilian grass-roots organizations — setting in motion one of the most dramatic tests yet of the makeshift system of local governance that civilians and fighters have established in Saraqib, a rebel-held town.

The dispute also tests the clout of jihadist fighters and the ability of civilian opposition groups to stand up to them. The increasingly prominent role of jihadist battalions on the battlefield worried the United States enough to blacklist Al Nusra last year as a terrorist organization, an effort to isolate it that may have backfired. The Syrian opposition is ambivalent about the group: while many antigovernment activists oppose its vision of an Islamic state and complain of attempts to enforce pious practices, its relatively steady arms supply and string of battleground victories have brought it respect

Israel Girds For Attacks As Syria Falls Apart
By JODI RUDOREN and ANNE BARNARD NYTimes

“If there will be a need, we will take action to prevent chemical weapons from being transferred to Islamic terror organizations,” Mr. Shalom said on Army Radio. “We are obligated to keep our eye on it at all times, in the event chemical weapons fall into Hezbollah’s hands.”…

Uprising’s first Druze defector declared dead
January 24, 2013 The Daily Star
by  Marlin Dick

The first army defector from the southern province of Swaida was declared dead Wednesday, after having led a battle against regime forces earlier in the month.

The Facebook page of the Revolutionary Military Council for Swaida said that Khaldoun Zeineddine, the leader of the Sultan Pasha al-Atrash Battalion of the Free Syrian Army, had been “martyred,” along with an undisclosed number of his comrades….

Opposition Clashes with Kurds Raise Fears of Arab-Kurdish Civil War in Syria, al-Nusra Front and the FSA involved in the fighting -
Rudaw.net By ADIB ABDULMAJID

…28 rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the main opposition fighting to topple the regime of President Hafez Assad, and five from the Kurdish Popular Protection Committee (YPG), were killed in last week’s encounter….

“We are struggling against terrorist armed groups who have caused total destruction in the city and forced our people to leave their homes,” Silo told Rudaw over the phone. “We will confront all enemies of the Kurdish people, whether they belong to the regime or the FSA.”

Silo said that fighters from the al-Nusra Front, Ghuraba al-Sham and the FSA were involved in the fighting.

“Kurdish areas should remain under Kurdish control, otherwise the consequences will be severe for the future of our people,” he added.


المجلس العسكري السرياني السوري Syriac Military Council formed

Assad made ‘grave error’ over reforms: Medvedev
2013-01-27 15:39:49.135 GMT

SYRIAN President Bashar al-Assad made a “grave, perhaps fatal error” by delaying political reforms, Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev says.

“He should have acted much more quickly and reached out to the peaceful opposition, which was ready to sit at the negotiating table with him,” Russian news agencies quoted Medvedev as saying.

“It’s a grave error on his part, perhaps fatal,” he said, in a rare criticism of Assad by Syria’s traditional ally Moscow.

“It seems to me that his chances of staying (in power) are shrinking day by day,” Medvedev said in remarks to CNN television on the sidelines of the Davos World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

He reiterated Russia’s position that only the Syrian people can decide the fate of Assad, whose departure the West has long called for in the face of the nearly two-year-long conflict in Syria.

“I repeat once again: It is for the Syrian people to decide. Not Russia or the United States or any other country.” Moscow has long opposed any foreign intervention in the conflict that the United Nations says has killed at least 60,000 people since March 2011.

Syrian Rebel Jihadists Threaten To Attack France In Retaliation For Mali Offensive… Via MEMRI:

This Message is addressed to the French Republic and its people from the Mujahideen of Syria, following the French government’s decision to attack our noble brothers, who instated the shari’a, who fought polytheism, who spread monotheism in northern Mali – the law of Allah, the shari’a, the only legislation to which a Muslim may submit.

The most fundamental right of a Muslim is to live according to his religion, and his duty is to strive to instate it on the lands of Islam.

A Mujahid fights so that the word of Allah may reign supreme.

The simple reason that drives France and its allies to attack and kill those who establish the shari’a in Muslim countries is that they want to maintain the subservient regimes that agreed to be their vassals, to serve their interests in Muslim countries, and to oppress them with their tyranny.

As a result of the decision of the French government, which is not satisfied with preventing our virtuous sisters from donning the veil in accordance with Allah’s decree, and with constantly fighting Islam and the Muslims…

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201. MarigoldRan said:

The war continues.

At this point, there is no such thing as “Syria” anymore. It does not exist. Kind of like the old Yugoslavia, which doesn’t exist anymore either.

And as usual the regime is massacring people. But at this point most commentators don’t even bring this up, because it’s old news. The regime is EXPECTED to massacre people, kind of like how Revenire is EXPECTED to act like an idiot. It is hardly a surprise.

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January 29th, 2013, 9:31 pm

 

202. Ghufran said:

Morsi and his drummers are now talking about a conspiracy and mundasseen, sounds familiar? How do you think an MB led government in Syria would respond if faced with similar challenges like the ones Morsi is dealing with.

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January 29th, 2013, 9:40 pm

 

203. zoo said:

Ibrahim urged the UNSC to update the Geneva accord and act now.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44034&Cr=syria&Cr1=#.UQiHh6zi95Y

Security Council must act now to address Syria crisis, UN-Arab League envoy stresses

29 January 2013 – The Joint Special Representative of the United Nations and the League of Arab States on the Syrian crisis, Lakhdar Brahimi, today called on the Security Council to take action to advance a solution to the ongoing conflict, warning against any further delay.

“Syria is being destroyed bit by bit. And in destroying Syria, the region is being pushed into a situation that is extremely bad and extremely important for the entire world,” Mr. Brahimi told reporters at UN Headquarters following a closed-door session with the Council.

“That is why I believe the Security Council simply cannot continue to say ‘we are disagreement, therefore, let’s wait for better times’. I think they have got to grapple with this problem now,” he stated.
…. In his comments today, Mr. Brahimi also discussed the Geneva communiqué, which was issued after a meeting of the so-called Action Group for Syria last June and which lays out key steps in a process to end the violence in Syria.

Amongst other items, the communiqué called for the establishment of a transitional governing body, with full executive powers and made up by members of the present Government and the opposition and other groups, as part of agreed principles and guidelines for a Syrian-led political transition.

“I’m now calling on the Security Council to take action because the Geneva declaration that contains, indeed, a lot of elements that would provide for a reasonable solution to the conflict cannot be implemented as it is,” said the envoy. “It needs action from the Council and I have suggested a few ideas to them.”

Also speaking to reporters, Ambassador Masood Khan of Pakistan, which holds the rotating presidency of the Council, said that Council members conveyed a sense of urgency that “something ought to be done and something ought to be done quickly” to stem the crisis in Syria and its consequences for the entire region.

“Council members gave several suggestions for breaking the impasse and trying to find some formula for a political solution,” he added.

In his comments, Mr. Brahimi also reputed reports that he is resigning from his post. “I’m not a quitter. The United Nations has no choice but to remain engaged with this problem, whether I’m there or not. The moment I feel that I am totally useless, I will not stay one minute more.”

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January 29th, 2013, 9:41 pm

 

204. MarigoldRan said:

Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood would not have done what the regime has done because they do not control the army.

There is much to be said for splitting the powers of the state to two or three different groups. That way no one group can abuse their powers and destroy the country like the regime has done.

If Morsi tried to do what Assad did, the Egyptian army would turn on him. The difference between Egypt and Syria is that in Egypt the army did not listen to Mubarak when Mubarak ordered them to shoot. In Syria, the army shot.

Syria is a good example of what happens when too much power is concentrated in the hands of one man and his clique.

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January 29th, 2013, 9:44 pm

 

205. zoo said:

Radical Past: Former Associate Calls Morsi a ‘Master of Disguise’

By Dieter Bednarz and Volkhard Windfuhr in Cairo
http://www.spiegel.de/international/egyptian-president-reportedly-not-as-conciliatory-to-israel-as-he-appears-a-880111-2.html


Sharnoubi’s vision of a future Egypt under the Muslim Brotherhood is horrifying. “They will infiltrate all areas of our society: government offices and ministries, schools and universities, as well as the police and the military. They will eliminate their enemies.”

Isn’t he exaggerating?

“Not in the least,” says Sharnoubi, noting that the Brotherhood is already infiltrating the security apparatus. “The Brotherhood will never give up its power without a fight.”

When he leaves the café, Sharnoubi looks toward Tahrir Square, where there is no end to the turmoil. Last Friday, once again, there was rioting and there were clashes between Morsi opponents and the police, and some were killed or injured. For Sharnoubi, this is “merely a small foretaste of an imminent popular uprising.”

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January 29th, 2013, 9:52 pm

 

206. MarigoldRan said:

Morsi and the MB are undoubtedly power-hungry. But so are the other groups in the country, such as the so-called liberals and the army.

And that’s what democracy, even imperfect ones, are like. Different groups check the power of other groups in the government. If Morsi acts too out of line, he will be overthrown WITHOUT a disastrous civil war, in the same way that Mubarak was.

But Syria failed because all the power of government was concentrated in ONE group. When they behaved catastrophically, there was no one in the country who could stop them. This is why Syria has a civil war, but Egypt did not. This is why Egypt is a more successful country than Syria.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:03 pm

 

207. Ghufran said:

Marigold,
I agree with the principle of dividing power and I certainly agree that the Egyptian army did not act as a tool of the regime but I am not sure how long this is going to last as Morsi and his agents continue to ikhwanize every institution including the army.
As for the horrible crime of executing 79 men and teenagers in Aleppo, some locals who spoke to the Telegraph are blaming the regime, others have asked about the fact that some victims were in military fatigues, and one noted that there was a fire fight between rebels and the army few days ago, it was also clear that the victims were killed at different times,some had fresh wounds while others showed signs of decomposition that usually takes days to occur, Qwayq river was obviously used as a dumping site for victims of violence in Aleppo especially that it is situated in a battle zone.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:05 pm

 

208. Syrialover said:

# 189.REVENIRE

Nothing is more of a yawn than a smartass like you who isn’t smart.

If you are going to make yappy, snappy, giggling comments “defending” the regime, who not find out something about the subject?

But we know you like to make it up as you go along and can’t be bothered.

But looking at your comments, I realize you are actually trying to have fun satirizing the Assadists.

Bad taste. They are not a source of amusement for other people.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:10 pm

 

209. MarigoldRan said:

As I see it, Egypt’s major political groups can be divided into three rough parts:

Morsi and the MB.
The army.
The “liberals” and everyone else

This is of course an over-simplification, but it makes the events in Egypt easier to understand. Currently the army and the MB are cooperating at the expense of the “liberals.” How long will this last? Who knows. But it IS an example of democracy, even if it’s a corrupted version. The fact that two different power groups have to COOPERATE with one another is a good sign for the future.

With regards to Aleppo, both sides dumped bodies into the river. I agree that this is NOT a clean war. But I support the FSA because the regime is worse.

EDIT: @ Syrialover

The basic problem with Revenire is that even if he’s trying to satirize the regime, he isn’t succeeding. The reason is because the regime actually thinks that way. Revenire actually expresses the psychology of the regime. As I’ve said before, the regime is a reflection of Revenire’s empty and vile soul.

Revenire is espousing evil. And that demands a response.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:10 pm

 

210. Citizen said:

Damascus. Subjected to mortar fire fighters printing press, which printed textbooks. The shelling killed two people. Of a mine explosion burned a bus carrying employees of the company.
Province of Hama. From militants freed the village of Al-Hadid Sheh. Local people with great enthusiasm and warmth met Syrian army units.
The province Idleb foiled attack militants in the central prison. During the battle, the attackers initially terrorists even managed to break into the prison. But defenders seized the initiative and fought back. In the ensuing firefight killed a large number of terrorists.
http://anna-news.info/node/9590

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January 29th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

211. zoo said:

After this declaration at the UNSC, Ibrahimi will probably be persona non grata in Syria.

“He also told the council that Syrian President Bashar Assad might be able to cling to power for now, but noted that “the Syrian regime’s legitimacy has been seriously, probably irreparably, damaged.”

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January 29th, 2013, 10:13 pm

 

212. MarigoldRan said:

Ibrahimi will be banned from Syria because he told the truth. The regime accepts only lies. So of course they will not accept Ibrahimi or his recommendations.

Ibrahimi, however, is right. Albeit late to the fact. Syria is not a nation anymore. The regime can try to pretend otherwise, but this will not do them or their supporters any good because no one else believes in it.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:16 pm

 

213. Syrialover said:

#209 MARIGOLDRAN

REVENIRE is just a prankster. He’s here only to entertain himself.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

214. zoo said:

Syrian Meltdown and Erdogan 2014 ambitions

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/erdogans-kurdish-issues-8024

Syria’s descent into civil war has been enormously costly for Turkey and for Erdogan. Syria marked the end of Turkey’s “zero problems” policy, but more than that revealed the limits of Erdogan’s influence in the Middle East. This contrasted badly with the image of respected deal-maker that Erdogan tried to cultivate.

Erdogan was forced to abandon his early briskness toward Turkey’s traditional security alliance and instead hoped to persuade Obama to get rid of Assad. Help didn’t come and he felt somewhat abandoned, leaving Turkey to deal with Syria on its own.

But he came to see the need to draw closer to NATO and asked for and received Patriot missiles with little domestic protest. Once skeptical of NATO missions and his Western bona fides questioned abroad, Erdogan’s marked change confirmed the value he came to place on the U.S. connection despite our inaction on Syria.

His public plea for more assistance opened a new line of criticism, this time from his brethren in the Islamist media who questioned how Erdogan could be both a partner in NATO intervention in Syria and the voice of Arab democrats. Many also questioned the wisdom of putting all eggs in the Assad-must-go basket, while the political opposition hammered Erdogan for failing to keep Turkey out of the Syrian crossfire, stop the refugee exodus and show some progress.

Post-Assad Problems

Erdogan will initially benefit politically from Assad’s departure no matter how it happens.

He will likely bill himself as a successful democratizer who also acted as a good Muslim sheltering Syrian refugees (something he has indeed done well). But there is also the possibility of greater sectarian violence in a post-Assad Syria, a tenuous Syrian government, a deepening humanitarian crisis with more refugees—this time mostly non-Sunni—and few of the present refugees returning.

In a post-Assad Syria, Erdogan will probably put his weight behind the Sunnis, who his religious base also supports. Turkey could find itself in the uncomfortable position of backing a Muslim Brotherhood government influenced by Saudi or Qatari money and more radical than it would like. This would put it at odds with the U.S. vision of a moderate, inclusive government in which the Kurds havea bigger say.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

215. MarigoldRan said:

Of course. And that gives us the right to entertain ourselves at HIS expense. If he wants to troll, that gives us the right to troll him. Which is something that I’ve taken advantage of.

Nonetheless, the fact that he chose to troll on behalf of the regime shows some of his true colors. He could have trolled elsewhere (the Internet is a big place) but the fact that he chose to troll on behalf of the regime shows that he has a stunted and vile soul.

Revenire the moron is actually callous and stupid enough to think that this is just a game. He’s played too much video games, and he doesn’t understand that real people are suffering and dying.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:26 pm

 

216. revenire said:

I am still laughing at the idea that the SAA dumped bodies in the river. Because the army ran out of bases because the FSA took them over? LOL

It is pretty obvious these dead people were murdered by terrorist pigs who kidnap people for money. We’ve all seen citizens demonstrating to get the FSA to leave the city.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:31 pm

 

217. MarigoldRan said:

See? Point proven. I like how he goes and immediately proves me right.

Revenire is a retard.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:32 pm

 

218. Syrialover said:

MARIGOLDRAN #209,

It’s wrong to make a statement of opinion or theory as if it were facts. Very wrong, particularly in the context you just did.

Unless you have first-hand witnesses and forensic information (which you obviously don’t) you should not casually state:

“With regards to Aleppo, both sides dumped bodies into the river.”

You make me angry making that baseless assertion based on whatever came into your head.

For some of us, the situation in Syria is not just a distant war game.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:37 pm

 

219. revenire said:

218 Ask your friend Edward Dark or any number of the thousands in Aleppo about the ones who rape and murder.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:39 pm

 

220. MarigoldRan said:

Ghufran thinks both sides dumped bodies into the river, and given how both sides have behaved, I’m inclined to think he’s right. Our positions on the war are not all that different, though unlike Ghufran I do not believe this war will end with a political solution. The regime has to be beat.

However, that is an OPINION. If you want to talk about facts, I’ll admit that facts support NEITHER side’s opinion on the bodies at this moment. We honestly don’t know who did it (or whether the canal was used as a dumping site by BOTH sides). However, given past behavior, there’s a much HIGHER chance that the regime did it than the rebels.

EDIT: @ Revenire

What comes around, goes around.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:41 pm

 

221. majedkhaldoun said:

at the time Al Dendashi disappeared Revenire showed up.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:43 pm

 

222. Citizen said:

Saudis protest in Riyadh again, calling for release of prisoners

Saudi protesters have once again taken to the streets in Riyadh, calling for the release of prisoners detained during anti-regime demonstrations.

The demonstrators chanted slogans against the excessive use of force by Saudi forces in quelling anti-regime protests and condemned the Al Saud regime’s suppressive actions against dissidents.

According to Human Rights Watch, the Saudi regime “routinely represses expression critical of the government.”

According to Saudi activists, most of the detained political thinkers are being held by the government without trial or legitimate charges and that they were arrested for merely looking suspicious.

In October, Saudi authorities warned that they would deal “firmly” with protests after hundreds of Saudis gathered outside Tafiya prison, north of the capital, in September to demand the release of their relatives.

Amnesty International has criticized Riyadh over the warning and urged the authorities to “withdraw their threat.” In Saudi Arabia, protests and political gatherings of any kind are prohibited.

Since February 2011, protesters have held demonstrations on an almost regular basis in Saudi Arabia, mainly in Qatif and Awamiyah in Eastern Province.

The demonstrations turned into protests against the Al Saud regime after November 2011 when Saudi security forces killed five protesters and injured many others in the province.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:52 pm

 

223. MarigoldRan said:

Say what you want about the Saudis, but they’re many times smarter than the regime.

A few people protested, by the Saudis are smart enough not to start a bloody civil war because of it.

Unlike the regime. On a certain level I’m more offended by the regime’s STUPIDITY than anything else. This regime, like Revenire, is DUMB.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:54 pm

 

224. Citizen said:

Two Patriot complexes put on combat duty in Turkey
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_29/Two-Patriot-complexes-put-on-combat-duty-in-Turkey/

Two NATO’s surface-to-air missile complexes Patriot have been put on combat duty not far from the Syrian border, Reuters reported Tuesday citing German sources.

These two complexes which were delivered from Germany have been deployed near the Turkish city of Kahramanmarash.

In total NATO has sent six Patriot complexes to Turkey – two from the US, two from Germany and two from the Netherlands.

The missile complexes supplied from the Netherlands were out into combat duty on January 26.

The two complexes from the US will be delivered on Wednesday.

In November 2012, Ankara asked NATO to provide anti-aircraft complexes to protect its air space from possible air attacks from the side of Syria.

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January 29th, 2013, 10:56 pm

 

225. Citizen said:

If you are young, then you will soon be witnessing the collapse of the capitalist imperialist system in the face of the leading countries like the U.S.! not inevitably!

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January 29th, 2013, 11:00 pm

 

226. majedkhaldoun said:

مطالب أوروبية بإعلان حزب الله اللبناني منظمة إرهابية

المالكي يلوح بالقبضة الحديدية.. ويخير العراقيين بين الفوضى أو الديكتاتورية
وقال رئيس كتلة العراقية في البرلمان سلمان الجميلي في مؤتمر صحافي أمس إن «المعطيات الأولية تؤكد بأن الجيش هو من أطلق النار على المتظاهرين في الفلوجة»، مؤكدا أن «القائد العام للقوات المسلحة نوري المالكي ووزير الدفاع سعدون الدليمي مطالبان باحتجاز أو اعتقال القوة التي كانت قريبة من المظاهرات والتي أطلقت النار على المتظاهرين، إلى أن يستكمل التحقيق في الحادث». وأضاف الجميلي أن «قيادة عمليات الأنبار أكدت بشكل صريح ومسجل، أن الجيش أطلق النار باتجاه المتظاهرين، دون صدور أوامر من القيادات العليا»،
Maliki should be subjected to the same type of court that Saddam was subjected to, and probably will be hanged.

The ship that was stopped in Yemen was Iranian ship

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January 29th, 2013, 11:04 pm

 

227. revenire said:

Dmitry Medvedev’s interview with the German newspaper Handelsblatt a day AFTER the one with CNN. Odd how this never gets mentioned. :)

Mathias Brüggmann: My last question: when will Russia change its stance on Syria?

Dmitry Medvedev: I think the Russian position on Syria is entirely pragmatic. It is this: we do not support Assad, we do not support the opposition, we are in contact with Assad and the opposition. We do have interstate relations, we have economic links and even military links with the incumbent government, but we have never insisted that Assad or anyone else should stay in power. That is an issue for the Syrian people to decide.

I always remind people who for some reason are oblivious of one thing: Syria is a very complicated country, it is not even Libya, although Libya can also be fragmented. Syria has so many different denominations and branches of Islam that if everything were left to chance the country would implode. Can we imagine what will happen if the Sunnis come to power? I think they will start hanging the Alawites, sad though it may sound. This cannot be allowed to happen. Things have to be agreed at the negotiating table, and that includes the future of the country. As for the fate of the leadership, these are secondary matters. We are ready for contacts with everyone, but we categorically object to any party providing arms either for the opposition or for anybody else. This has to stop.

Mathias Brüggmann: Thank you.

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January 30th, 2013, 12:13 am

 

228. Juergen said:

Reveboy where is your link to the article?

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January 30th, 2013, 1:12 am

 
 

230. revenire said:

Juergy-boy here you go: http://government.ru/eng/docs/22549/
(right at the bottom for the terrorists too lazy to read it all) (lol)

Right from the horse’s mouth. That a good enough source for you?

If you weren’t so lazy you could have found it yourself.

Kind of puts the out of context BS trumpted by Landis et al. in its place. I also read the CNN transcript there and it sure comes across different than how all the media whores wrote about it.

I smell desperation in our enemies. Mr. President give us the order.

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January 30th, 2013, 1:31 am

 

231. Juergen said:

Reve

I think it is common sense here on this blog to cite the scources for such interviews, in my opinion the original scource would be the best, and I have downloaded the interview from their databases.
http://www.handelsblatt-shop.com/downloads/staerker-werden-oder-auf-den-euro-verzichten-p4469.html

I understand that you trust the official media outlet of the Kremlin, I highly distrust them, btw the official words coming out of our chancellors office arent much more trustworthy, thank God we have good journalists to verify what is true and what is not so true.
I would like to explain something about this newspaper which you cite. HANDELSBLATT is the leading economic magazine in the country, and the focus of this magazine on politics is only when policies would meet economic issues. Brügmann is an expert on economic issues, most articles in the last years cover the Euro crisis. Therefore you can not compare an interview made by CNN and this interview, the outlook of the HANDELSBLATT was merely an economic one, 90% of the questions were polite questions about possible investments and privatisation plans ( that always means big business). Two questions were bolder in their nature, the one questioning his role after Putins term is over, and of course his view how the President is regarded by the people.

Media whores, nice one, I always looked for a word for people working for such government outlets and are the extension of the dictatorship. Thank you I will borrow this one from you.

Reve how about you join the “Volkssturm”, I bet you would be the only soldier dying with the thought of your beloved President.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:11 am

 

232. MarigoldRan said:

Ouch.

Revenire’s being stupid again.

Why is Revenire arguing with a German (who is most likely posting from Germany) over a publication in a German newspaper?

I guess Revenire enjoys being insulted. In which case, we’re happy to oblige.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:17 am

 

233. revenire said:

Please, Juergen I have extensive contacts in Germany in the BND going back several decades. I lived in Wiesbaden during my student days. Spare me this childish idiocy.

Medvedev said what he said. Who cares? What idiot – other than the usual ones – believed Russia changed its tune?

Russia, like Dr. Assad, plays chess. The Americans are fools.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:28 am

 

234. annie said:

Incoherence!

Jan 30

Posted by OFF THE WALL( http://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/incoherence/ )

Coherence of thoughts is illusive. It lies behind the scenery of death, now so common as to fade into the background of long-threatened destruction that has become us. The hearts of our cities, those precious sculptures, carefully crafted over millenniums, with layers spanning centuries next to those that only lived less than a decade, now lie torn by the mad man and his minions. And the madness just would not subside.

For more than forty years, the seeds of destruction were being planted with the zeal of the obsessed. It is a story of madness played one slap at a time, of insults compounded by the ignorance of the bullies, of thefts aggravated by the infinite depravity of the thieves soul, of rapes, of torture, murders, disappearances, and of a foretold signs of the coming catastrophe, ignored as the beautiful and ancient city of Nourias was laid to waste by the barbarians. The silence was deafening even as the bleeding continued for as long as the madman lived.

The barbarians raped the souls of our cities with their demented cheap tasteless portraits. First, it was the madman, then he was joined by his vicious brother, only for the brother to be replaced by the sons, including the fake hero, who was killed by the characteristic recklessness of arrogance, but was nonetheless, declared a martyr and a demi-god. A worst fraud then replaced the fake martyr, it was a pretender to humanity, and the nightmare we now are fighting. The sons may have been legitimate to their unholy parents, but by all means, are illegitimate in time and place.

Fools were those among us who feigned knowledge. The wise ones said the devil is dead. But its essence never died. The crowning of his successor should have been another sign of the impending catastrophe. The essence of the devil never died. It remained active and never dormant, but vibrant in every military post, in torture dungeons around our land, in the secret mass graves scattered in our ancient desert. And the barbarians became more vulgar and evermore greedy as they continued their insults for eleven more years on our civility, our senses, our culture, and our intellects, individually and collectively. Under the series of promises, never made to be kept, lied the constant hum of the catastrophe. Many among us heard it very clearly, but we pretended to believe, perhaps fearing the hum, that the vulgar music of the barbarians will one day become a bit more refined only if we listen longer.

We listened, and the vulgar music turned into blasts that destroyed our homes and killed many of us with deliberate malice when we asked that this half century assault be stopped. What they did to us from that point on will be told in the future for centuries to come. It will be a story of betrayal, of savagery, as well as of heroism that we never knew had existed in us. But the story of our heroic death will be worthy to hear only if told as the conclusion to the story of our cowardliness. Without that, there is no lesson learned, and our death, and the death of our children and grandchildren who are paying the price of our cowardliness will be pointless and in vain.

I stopped counting days. The post-massacre pain of anguish which started very acute ad sharp, then turned into a dull pain as our cities and villages turned into killing fields, had finally settled into a continuous throb of sharp, maddening pain as the massacres became daily and hourly happenstance. A short while ago, it was my University. The place which has more personal connection to my life than it does to most of its graduates. The mayhem outraged us, but our outrage became worst when the thugs tried to appropriate our martyrs. I don’t think they really cared to say that our side was the side who murdered our own children, but more to continue their assault and theft, even of our death at their hands.

Today, it was the river. Residents in in the liberated Bustan Al-Qaser area of Aleppo, pulled more than sixty bodies from the narrow, highly polluted River Quaiq . All were males between the age of 20-40, with a few children, and all were tied and shot in the head execution style. At first, as they did with the University, the thugs hyped that this is a liberated area and therefore, these are victims of the FSA. But early identification, in addition to the close-proximity of the area to regime territory point that at least some of the victims were reported to have been kidnapped by the notorious murderous air-force intelligence.

Others are probably more able to describe the scene of death. But to me, every time I see the photograph of victim, tied and shot, all I can think of is the horrors the barbarians have inflicted on their victims before killing them. You see, their smuggled tapes have finally paid off, but not in the way they thought for I am not horrified any longer, I am beyond that.

Like many Syrians, I am now beyond many other feelings. Nowadays, I no longer get angry at a relative or a former friend when they support the filth called Assad regime, I just accept the fact that they are part of the filth. What I don’t tell them is that anger used to build up and then subside, hate was accumulating in a crescendo parallel to the atrocities of the barbarians, but now, we are beyond both anger and hate, we are even beyond vengeance. We are now obsessed with swearing “Never Again”. Let the world know, Never again. I know it really threatens the barbarians, because it is even sweeter than revenge.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:34 am

 

235. Juergen said:

I love the wit of the Egyptians!

https://twitter.com/AmirAssaad/status/296403200909660160/photo/1

BTW Morsi is coming to meet Merkel today in Berlin, Merkel has spread that she will ask some tough questions before opening the purse, whatever tough means for her.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:36 am

 

236. revenire said:

Annie does that piece of incoherent nonsense mean the al-Nusra rats won’t kidnap any more citizens of Aleppo, murder them and then dump their bodies in the river?

Juergen Merkel and Morsi deserve each other.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:39 am

 

237. Juergen said:

Reve
I couldnt agree more about Merkel and Morsi.

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January 30th, 2013, 2:43 am

 

238. Juergen said:

Foulath Hadid: Writer and expert on Arab affairs

“Long before the Arab Spring, Foulath Hadid believed people across the Arab world aspired to political freedom – and one day would achieve it. He condemned European imperialism, American hegemony, and autocratic Arab governments equally in denying the Arab people their legitimate aspirations. It was Hadid’s good fortune to live long enough to see average men and women across the region rise up and challenge dictators, vindicating his long-held convictions.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/foulath-hadid-writer-and-expert-on-arab-affairs-8207992.html

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January 30th, 2013, 3:07 am

 

239. Juergen said:

open letter to President Morsi by Hamed Abdel Samad:

Dear Mr. Mursi, you do not get flowers

Million Egyptians feel after the inauguration of Mohammed Mursi cheated of the Revolution – one of them is the Egyptian-German author Hamed Abdel-Samad. “You have been democratically elected, but a Democrat, you are not,” he wrote in an open letter.

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Foffener-brief-von-hamed-abdel-samad-an-mohammed-mursi-a-879583.html

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January 30th, 2013, 3:21 am

 

240. Syrialover said:

Simon Collis, British Ambassador to Iraq has just tweeted:

“Moaz Khatib ready to meet regime reps outside Syria if all prisoners released and all Syrian exiles allowed to renew passports”

https://twitter.com/HMASimonCollis

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January 30th, 2013, 5:45 am

 

241. Syrialover said:

The shame and selfishness of Syria’s neighbors. A very public stain on the reputation of the Arab world.

“We are proud to say that we Syrians did not build tents to those who knocked on our doors. We let them in.”

http://twitter.com/NMSyria/status/296411754177654784/photo/1

Tweets:

- Let it be known that during the American invasion of Iraq, refugees were welcomed into the homes of their brothers and sisters in Syria

- Let it be known that during the 2006 war in Lebanon, Syrians welcomed Lebanese refugees into their homes with open arms.

- Let it be known that they were welcomed into our homes, not thrown in inhumane refugee camps in the deserts.

- And let it be known that in 2012/2013, the entire Arab world shut the door in the face of Syrians.

Source: http://twitter.com/NMSyria

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January 30th, 2013, 6:05 am

 

242. Syrialover said:

Assad’s office issues statement denying Asma’s pregnancy report:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/01/29/assads-office-issues-statement-contesting-pregnancy-report/

COMMENT: Meaning she’s probably having triplets by artificial insemination and Bashar isn’t the father – or whatever.

Bashar & co are such committed liars and bizarre deniers of reality anything they say falls into the hoax and joke category.

And with the terrible mess, suffering and crises in Syria does this bit of personal puffery reflect the priorities and obsessions of Bashar and his “advisers”?

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January 30th, 2013, 6:35 am

 

243. Citizen said:

Revenire ! Why you are arguing with a German ! please do it with american ! :)

CNN made its reputation by coverage, from one end of the planet to the other. Yet, what did we really learn in all those years? We learned that, by straining to the point of hernia, a cable network could present news non-stop, 24/7.
The trick of coverage is the smooth transition from anchor in the studio to reporter in the field. The reporter is standing in front of something that vaguely resembles or represents what we imagine the locale contains. A large squat government building, a tower, a marketplace, a river, a skyline.
At some point during the meaningless report, the screen splits and we see both the anchor and the reporter. This yields the impression of two concerned professionals discussing something significant.
Then we’re back to the reporter in the field filling up the whole screen.
The anchor closes with a question or two.
“Denise, have you seen any tanks in the area?”
“No Wolf, not in the last hour. But we have reports from last night of shelling in the village.”
Well, isn’t this marvelous. Wolf is in Atlanta and Denise is in Patagonia. And they’re talking to each other in real time. Therefore, they must be on top of what’s going on.
“Denise, we understand medical help arrived a short time ago.”
“Yes, Wolf. Out in the desert, in tents, surgeons are performing emergency operations on the wounded.”
Well, what else is there to know? They’ve covered it.
In a twist on this performance, Denise might say, “Government officials are cautiously optimistic about repelling the invading force.” We cut to an interview conducted by Denise, in a hotel room, a few hours earlier.
She’s sitting across from a man in a suit. He’s the minister of information for the ruling party.
Denise: Is it true, Dr. Oobladee, that rebels groups in the suburbs have taken over several branch offices of the central bank?
Dr. Oob: We don’t believe that’s accurate. Our soldiers have been providing security for families in the area.
Denise: And their fortifications are secure?
Dr. Oob: They’ve trained for this mission, yes.
Cut back to Denise standing where she was standing before.
“Wolf, as the night wears on, we hear sporadic gunfire from the civic center. It’s a repeat of the last three evenings. The rebels are determined to make a stand and not give up further ground, in this war that enters its sixth month…”
Cut back to the studio in Atlanta.
“Thank you, Denise. We’ll take a break and be back in a minute to discuss the upcoming controversial film, Cold War in a Hat, starring George Clooney.”
http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/29/how-television-news-creates-the-illusion-of-knowledge/

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January 30th, 2013, 7:06 am

 

244. revenire said:

Ha ha. You’re so right Citizen.

Juergen I didn’t source the Medvedev Handelblatt thing because it is so easy to find with Google in about two seconds AND I doubt we believe what each other posts irrespective of sources. For myself I believe NO story posted by any terrorist-sympathizer unless it is a typical cat up a tree story (90% of them I don’t even look at).

That’s just the way it is. In war the first casualty is truth.

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January 30th, 2013, 11:03 am

 

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