SNC Gets New Leader; Insurgency Grows; Foreign Jihadists Flock to Syria; Some Claim Houla Dead are Alawis

Syrian Forces Shell Cities as Opposition Picks Leader
Associated Press
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR, June 10, 2012, NYTimes

ISTANBUL — Syrian government forces shelled rebel strongholds across the country on Sunday, opponents of the government said, while the main opposition group in exile, the Syrian National Council, chose a new leader….

Abdelbaset Sieda, a Kurdish professor of Arabic and philosophy who promised the organization would be overhauled.

“We will expand and extend the base of the council,” he told reporters at a news conference, “so it will take on its role as an umbrella under which all the opposition will seek shade.”

The Syrian National Council, formed last fall, has been plagued by infighting and has been criticized as ineffective, amounting to little more than a front for the long-exiled Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood with little influence inside the country. Its top post was supposed to rotate every three months, but Bourhan Ghalioun, another exiled academic, held on to it until an outcry over his most recent re-election in May, especially from inside Syria, prompted him to step down.

Council members involved in the process hailed Mr. Sieda’s election as proof that the Syrian opposition was committed to upholding democratic principles and the idea of a “leaderless revolution.” He ran unopposed.

“The ideal leadership of the council is not through one person — because no one is elected and has actual legitimacy,” said Bassma Kodmani, a member of the executive committee. Until such time as there are free elections in Syria, she said, the choice of the president of the council should be made by consensus.

“The revolution does not want to see a big leader, or one individual who leads everything,” Ms. Kodmani said. “Personalization leads to polarization.”

Still, critics both in the wider membership of the council and outside the group said Mr. Sieda had emerged as the consensus choice precisely because he represents no one, either inside Syria or out. Both the Muslim Brotherhood and liberals in the council concluded that he did not pose a threat or provide an advantage to any bloc within the council, they said, but for the same reasons he will have little real authority, and the bickering will continue.

“The Muslim Brotherhood, especially, does not want a strong person, neither someone with political strength nor a strong personality,” said Hasan Kasem, a young liberal activist.

Mr. Sieda, who turns 56 on Tuesday, has lived in Sweden for the past 17 years, and calls himself an independent. As a Kurd, he belongs to a minority that was oppressed for years by the Syrian government. Most Kurdish opposition groups do not take part in the council because it has not promised to back a federal government structure for Syria that would give Kurdish areas some measure of autonomy.

At the news conference, Mr. Sieda defended his long record of opposition to the governments of President Bashar al-Assad and his father, Hafez. To counter criticism of the council, he noted that the executive committee had just added three members with experience running local leadership councils who had fled Syria recently. Answering complaints that not enough humanitarian aid was being sent to areas affected by the conflict, Mr. Sieda said the council would soon distribute $3 million worth of aid inside Syria.

Sunday was the sixth straight day that al-Heffa and neighboring villages were hit with rocket, mortar and tank shelling, opposition groups said. But the official news agency, SANA, gave a different account, saying that “armed terrorist groups” — its label for all opponents of the government — looted and burned public property in al-Heffa and killed residents.

In his first public comments, Abdelbaset Sieda, urged government officials to defect.


In Deraa thousands pledge to Allah, praise Muhammad, threaten Nasrallah | 9 June ’12

Report: Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre
By John Rosenthal, National Review, June 9, 2012 4:00 A.M.

According to a new report in Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the Houla massacre was in fact committed by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and the bulk of the victims were member of the Alawi and Shia minorities, which have been largely supportive of Assad. For its account of the massacre, the report cites opponents of Assad, who, however, declined to have their names appear in print out of fear of reprisals from armed opposition groups.

According to the article’s sources, the massacre occurred after rebel forces attacked three army-controlled roadblocks outside of Houla. The roadblocks had been set up to protect nearby Alawi majority villages from attacks by Sunni militias. The rebel attacks provoked a call for reinforcements by the besieged army units. Syrian army and rebel forces are reported to have engaged in battle for some 90 minutes, during which time “dozens of soldiers and rebels” were killed.

“According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues,

the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

The FAZ report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen, armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

Already at the beginning of April, Mother Agnès-Mariam de la Croix of the St. James Monastery warned of rebel atrocities’ being repackaged in both Arab and Western media accounts as regime atrocities. She cited the case of a massacre in the Khalidiya neighborhood in Homs. According to an account published in French on the monastery’s website, rebels gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya and blew up the building with dynamite. They then attributed the crime to the regular Syrian army. “Even though this act has been attributed to regular army forces . . . , the evidence and testimony are irrefutable: It was an operation undertaken by armed groups affiliated with the opposition,” Mother Agnès-Mariam wrote.

Survivor says slaughtered Syrian village had been warned not to shelter anti-Assad activists
By David Enders | McClatchy Newspapers

NEAR HAMA, Syria — A massacre that took as many as 80 lives in Qubeir may have had its origins in a warning that government sympathizers issued to the village’s residents against harboring known anti-government activists.

A resident of Qubeir who survived the massacre said Friday that the attack took place shortly after an activist wanted by the government, known as Abu Hassan, went to Qubeir. When an army unit based nearby was notified of Abu Hassan’s presence, it began to shell the village and then sent in six tanks, accompanied by local militiamen, who killed the villagers with gunfire, sticks and knives.

“There had been threats against the village before not to harbor people who are wanted,” said the resident, who used the pseudonym Laith al Hamawy for fear of retaliation from the Syrian government…. Other rebels said the militiamen responsible for the attack came from the nearby Alawite villages of Tuwaim and Tal Sakheen. Qubeir’s residents were Sunni Muslims. In recent weeks, according to Sunni villagers in the area, Alawite militiamen, known as shabiha, have made threats against Sunni villages that have participated in demonstrations against Assad or have sheltered the armed rebels fighting the government….

Thomas Pierret writes: Here is news from a Syrian friend:
My home town Talbiseh has been under heavy bombardment and shelling by mortars, missiles,and  military aircraft for over three days. About 20 have been killed, many many injured, crops burned, houses destroyed. People including my family are fleeing the town and sleeping in open farms, under trees, in dry irrigation canals.
Sharmine Narwani writes on Facebook:
“Joshua Landis, please explain yourself: “Syrians have abandoned the regime in spirit, even if they have yet to defect in body. Sunni Syrians continue to go to work and turn up in their offices in the morning, but they hate the Assad regime in their hearts. Assad’s army is being taken over by shabiha and security forces manned by Alawites. The massacres leave no doubt about that.” That’s a HUGE paintbrush you use here – with no evidence whatsoever. Would genuinely like to know how you arrived at this conclusion, when most of my information indicates a massive escalation on the part of armed groups provoking confrontation w/ the army and pro-regime civilians, including expulsion, kidnappings, killings. In May there were more Syrian soldiers killed than “civilians.” I place the word civilians in quotes because we know them to also include armed opposition individuals and pro-regime civilians. Looking forward to your response.”

According to the Kuwaiti paper al-Qabas, tens of Kuwaitis have crossed the Turkish boarder with Syria to join the Jihad along side other foreign fighters from Algeria and Saudi Arabia.

عشرات الكويتيين يقاتلون إلى جانب الجيش السوري الحر
مواضيع مترابطة

مجموعة دون الـ 18عاماً لم يُسمح لها بـ«الجهاد»
راشد الشراكي

علمت القبس ان عشرات المواطنين عبروا الحدود التركية نحو سوريا للمشاركة في عمليات «الجهاد» إلى جانب «الجيش السوري الحر» ضد قوات نظام بشار الأسد.
وقالت مصادر مقربة من المواطنين، الذين يتواجدون حالياً في سوريا، ان مكاتب الجيش السوري الحر تستقبلهم إلى جانب جماعات كبيرة من السعوديين والجزائريين والباكستانيين، ويتم تسليمهم هويات سورية تحسباً لأي طارئ، ومن ثم يتم تسليحهم ويوزعون على فرق في شتى المحافظات. وأكدت المصادر ان عددا من المواطنين لم يُسمح لهم بالدخول لأنهم دون الـ 18 عاماً

S.A. Writes in the Comment Section:

I must admit that I was alarmed at your latest article on SC because it sounded like you have a very clear picture of what’s taking place in Syria right now. I think that you have only presented one side of the story.

I know people who have very clear accounts and even names of people who were killed, kidnapped, murdered and raped by the so-called revolutionaries or ‘rebel armies’. They are targeting Alawites for just being Alawites. There are detailed accounts of people who had relatives’ bodies returned to their families after being mutilated in the worst form. This and the assassination of the Alawite educated elite from prominent families has continued up till now. There are clear accounts of this and of people who know families who have been affected. The style of these attacks is very similar to the assassinations that took place in Syria in the 1980s when the Muslim Brotherhood tried to rebel against the government and were crushed.

Common sense tells us that there is no reason for the government troops to kill women and children from the villages. It is obvious that what’s happening now is a sectarian tit-for-tat war which is similar to what happened in the former Yugoslavia.

People who I have been able to talk to in Syria are very anxious that the ‘rebels’ stop the violence and fighting the government. And also yes what is being done inside Syria is terrorism and nothing less. I know families whose children on school busses barely missed the bombs that were targeting government buildings. Is this killing children on the way to school a tactic to fight for democracy? Friends in Syria ask the question “what is the government supposed to do to protect us from terrorism?” They say that the government has a duty to protect its citizens from terrorist acts.

Fighting in Haffe, outside of Latakia:

….The fighting between government troops backed by helicopter gunships and armed groups in the area of Haffa began on Tuesday. Rami Abdul-Rahman, the director of the Observatory, said at least 58 soldiers have been killed and more than 200 wounded in the operation there since it began.

He said the heavy losses indicate the seriousness of the challenge in the mountainous area where “hundreds” of rebels are entrenched. His estimated death toll could not be independently verified.

State-run news agency SANA said “terrorist groups” in Haffa attacked public and private institutions on Saturday and committed “heinous” crimes against civilians, setting fire to the national hospital and forcing people to leave their homes. It said troops killed a number of them and arrested several others, adding it was still pursuing gunmen and working to restore security to the area…..

Syrian rebels tried to get me killed, says Channel 4 correspondent
The Guardian

Alex Thomson says his crew was led to ‘free-fire zone’ as deaths would discredit Bashar al-Assad’s regime.  By Ben

New Leader – Abdel Basset Sayda (Kurd living in Sweeden)- Chosen to lead the Syrian National Council

Leaders of the exiled Syrian National Council (SNC), Muhammet Faruq Tayfur (R), Burhan Ghalioun (C) and Abdel Basset Sayda (L), wait before the start of a meeting in Istanbul to pick a new leader after the resignation of Ghalioun last month to avert divisions.

The opposition Syrian National Council chose Abdulbaset Sayda (Seated to the right of Ghalioun in photo).

“We are now in the process of repairing the relationship between the SNC and the forces working inside Syria so that we may reach common grounds between us,” he said. “There will be changes in the coming weeks both within the forces inside the SNC and the forces that will hopefully join the group,” he added.

His elevation to the post of SNC chief could be part of an attempt to appeal to Syria’s significant Kurdish minority, which has largely stayed on the sidelines of the uprising. The community is deeply suspicious that Sunni Arabs who dominate the opposition will be no more likely to provide them greater rights than what they have had under Assad’s regime.

Sieda said he was already engaged in talks with the main Kurdish umbrella group, the Kurdish National Council, whose delegates walked out of an SNC gathering in March after the group ignored Kurdish demands it support political decentralization and Kurdish rights in a post-Assad state.

“He is an academic. He’s also well-known, a moderate man. We shouldn’t claim that he has Islamic tendencies or secular tendencies. He has been approved and accepted by everyone,” Abdel Hamid Al Attassi, a member of the SNC, said of Sieda.

A sleeping dragon awakes: Kurds Take Centre Stage in West Asia
By James M. Dorsey

As popular uprisings and post-revolt transitions change the political, economic and social structures of the Middle East, Kurds, the world’s largest nation without a state of their own, are emerging as the force that could spark a redrawing of borders and rewriting of minority rights in West Asia.

As popular uprisings and post-revolt transitions change the political, economic and social structures of the Middle East the struggle for Kurdish rights, including autonomy if not independence, moved center stage in the past week with a Syrian Kurd becoming head of the opposition Syrian National Council (SNC), Iraqi Kurdistan hosting an international tournament for nations that world soccer body FIFA refuses to recognize, and the hardening of attitudes of Turkish Kurds…..

83 civilian deaths reported after heavy fighting in Syria
Arab News – 10 June, 2012

Bullets and shrapnel shells smashed into homes in the Syrian capital overnight, as troops battled rebels in the streets, in the heaviest fighting yet in Damascus. The violence marked an increased boldness among rebels in taking their fight against the regime of President Bashar Assad to the center of his power.

For nearly 12 hours of fighting that lasted into the early hours Saturday, rebels armed mainly with assault rifles fought Syrian forces. UN observers said rebels fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the local power plant, damaging parts of it and charring six buses, according to video the observers took of the scene.

Assad’s Response to Syria Unrest Leaves His Own Sect Divided
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR

BEIRUT, Lebanon — After Jaber Abboud, a baker from Baniyas, Syria, first lashed out publicly at President Bashar al-Assad for failing to promote real change, his neighbors ignored it.

But Mr. Abboud and most of his community are Alawites, the same religious sect as the president. When the popular uprising broke out, many believed that if the Assad family fell, they were doomed. They closed ranks and turned on Mr. Abboud, boycotting his pastry shop and ultimately forcing him to leave town.

“The neighborhood is split — half are dejected and subservient, the rest are beasts,” he said in a telephone interview from nearby Latakia. “It is depressing to go there, it’s like a town full of ghosts, divided, security everywhere.”+

As the Syrian conflict escalates to new levels of sectarian strife, Mr. Assad is leaning ever more heavily on his religious base for support. The Alawite core of the elite security forces is still with him, as are many Syrians from minority groups.

But interviews with a dozen Alawites indicated a complex split even within their ranks. Some Alawites are frustrated that security forces have not yet managed to crush the opposition, while others say that Mr. Assad is risking the future of the Alawites by pushing them to the brink of civil war with Sunni Muslims.

Mr. Assad’s ruling Baath Party professes a secular, pan-Arab socialism, but Sunnis, who make up about 74 percent of the population, have long bridled at what they see as sectarian rule by the Alawites, who are nominally Shiite Muslims and make up only 13 percent of the population.

People like Mr. Abboud say they feel stranded in a no man’s land. Blackballed by their own Alawite community, they find that the Islamists who dominate parts of the armed opposition regard them with murderous suspicion. A few with opposition credentials have been killed.

On the other extreme are Alawites who criticize Mr. Assad as being too soft, saying that his father and predecessor as president, Hafez al-Assad, would have quashed the threat by now.

With Alawite youths dying by the hundreds to defend the government, voices are raised at funerals and elsewhere asking questions like, “Why is the government not doing enough to protect us?” according to the Alawites interviewed.

There were also anti-Assad chants in Alawite neighborhoods like Zahra in Homs, like: “Bashar became a Sunni!” (Mr. Assad’s wife, Asma al-Akhras, comes from a prominent family of Sunni Muslims from Homs.)

Alawite-Sunni tensions reached a new peak after a spate of mass killings, particularly the May 25 Houla massacre of 108 Sunni Muslims, including 49 children. Survivors from Houla and people living near the slaughter last Wednesday in the farming hamlet of Qubeir said the attackers came from Alawite villages. The United Nations said suspicions in Houla were focused on pro-government militiamen known in Arabic as shabiha. Alawites dominate their ranks.

“For the first time, we began to hear directly from our Sunni neighbors that we should leave Damascus and return to our villages,” said Abu Ali, 50, a real estate agent. He said that once the school year ended he expected a flood of such departures out of fear of revenge attacks.

Fear of reprisals has prompted dire warnings from some Alawites that their future is on the line. Afaq Ahmad, a defector from the air force intelligence branch, posted a 10-minute plea on YouTube saying that Alawites have to stop committing collective suicide. He has gained prominence partly because Alawite defectors are rare.

“Does the family of Bashar al-Assad deserve to be the leaders of the Alawites?” Mr. Ahmad asked. “In the face of crimes like this, we cannot stay silent. We should stick to our religious and humanitarian principles because otherwise, history will show no mercy.” ….

All the soldiers at a small military base in a village called Ghanto near Homs defected to the rebel side on Sunday, and that government helicopters bombed the base soon after the soldiers fled.

More than a million need aid in Syria
As refugees stream across the border, Jordan issues appeal for international assistance
David Randall Author Biography , Azar Zaidi,  Sunday 10 June 2012

At least 1.5 million people need urgent humanitarian assistance in Syria, aid agencies said yesterday – evidence that the impact of what is now a civil war goes far beyond the probable 10,000 dead reported since the insurgency and protests began.

More and more civilians are fleeing their homes on a daily basis to escape the fighting, and the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said that those caught in the violence find getting medical treatment, and basic food items, increasingly difficult.

An ICRC report stated: “The situation in many parts of Syria is very tense… The number of displaced people has been growing day by day. Many of the displaced have seen their assets looted or destroyed. Many are staying with family members or friends, others in public structures,[which often] lack basic services such as water and electricity.”…

UN Openly Waging War on Syria – (for those who believe that the US is intervening in Syria for regime-change and not humanitarian concerns.)
by Tony Cartalucci

….Western policy makers openly admit that the goal in Syria is not to restore peace and order, but to topple the government, even if it means purposefully, and indefinitely prolonging the violence to do so. Brookings Institution in their March, 2012 Middle East Memo #21 “Assessing Options for Regime Change (.pdf),” openly states that:

“The United States might still arm the opposition even knowing they will probably never have sufficient power, on their own, to dislodge the Asad network. Washington might choose to do so simply in the belief that at least providing an oppressed people with some ability to resist their oppressors is better than doing nothing at all, even if the support provided has little chance of turning defeat into victory. Alternatively, the United States might calculate that it is still worthwhile to pin down the Asad regime and bleed it, keeping a regional adversary weak, while avoiding the costs of direct intervention.” -pages 8-9, Assessing Options for Regime Change, Brookings Institution.

Confirming this, Clifford May of the Neo-Conservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) openly admits that “humanitarian concerns” has nothing to do with the West’s involvement in Syria, and that it is rather a proxy war being fought against Iran, and by extension, Russia. May also clearly states that ousting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is the objective of Western machinations, not the restoration of order or any sort of brokered ceasefire that ends the killing…..

Inside Syria: Who Arms the Rebels?
pbs newshour

In any revolution, getting weapons is a key challenge. Syria’s rebels have found an interesting solution.

As they loaded the store room with new bullets and rocket-propelled grenades, Hamza Fatahallah, an army defector who joined the Free Syrian Army nine months ago, described the transaction that had taken place.

“We have caught many army prisoners,” he said. “We send them back home for a small amount of money on the condition they do not return to the regime. We use the money to buy weapons.”

For the release of this prisoner, Ahmed Haseeba, the group received $500. With this money, Fatahallah said they were able to buy ammunition from their main supplier: Syria’s national army, also known as the enemy.

This strange cycle of exchanging prisoners for weapons has been playing out between rebel forces and President Bashar al-Assad’s army since the beginning of the revolution.

Fatahallah estimated that his village purchased 40 percent of their weapons from the regime. Prisoner exchanges have so far contributed almost $80,000 toward weapons purchases, he said. And they obtain an additional 50 percent of their weapons during battle. The remaining 10 percent are donated and smuggled from outside the country, or are purchased from private merchants, mostly from Iraq.[...]

For the regime, or at least the duplicitous members of it, supplying the enemy is a big business. Government officers also sell Kalashnikov bullets, which typically sold for less than 40 cents before the uprising, for about $4 each, according to Ahmed Al Sheikh, the leader of the armed opposition in Jabal al-Zawiya. He leads about 6,000 men from eight battalions that are collectively known as the Sham Falcons.

Kalashnikovs are bought for about $1,000, he said. Rocket-propelled grenade launchers, complete with a set of four rockets, cost up to $4,000, as does a BKT machine gun.

“These officers sell to us not because they love the revolution but because they love money,” Al Sheikh said of his chain of suppliers. “Their loyalty is to their pockets only, not the regime.”

While most of the sellers are corrupt officers, they said lower ranking soldiers have occasionally stolen supplies from government weapons storage and sold them to the rebel forces.

The Houla Massacre And The Subversion Of The Peace Plan
By Dr. Chandra Muzaffar

Instead of responding positively to some of the democratic changes introduced by the government, the US has been coordinating the supply of weapons to the opposition paid for by states such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia. An article in the Washington Post (16 May 2012) reveals this, and admits that as a result of large shipments of arms, the opposition “overran a government base” and “killed 23 Syrian soldiers” on 14 May. It is significant that this intensification of weapons supply to the opposition had occurred after the ceasefire under the Peace Plan had come into effect on 12 April. In fact, there has been a series of horrifying acts of violence since the ceasefire — devastating bomb attacks in Aleppo and Damascus some associated with Al-Qaeda and Salafist elements— aimed at creating chaos and anarchy. They offer incontrovertible proof that certain governments in the West and in West Asia do not want the Peace Plan to succeed.

Inflation at %31.4  – Syria Report

Syria’s annual inflation rate reached 31.45 percent in April, according to the Central Bureau of Statistics.

Cooking Gas – Syria Report

The Ministry of Economy has reduced the average weight of a cooking gas cylinder to 10 kg but kept its price unchanged, in effect increasing its cost by some 16 percent, as it battles with continuous shortages.

Bank Indicators Stabilize – Syria Report

The aggregate balance sheet of Syria’s private sector commercial banks rose 13.4 percent on a quarterly basis in the first three months of this year thanks to a surge in the assets of Syria International Islamic Bank.

Riyad Hijab New Prime Minister (Considered honest)

The Syrian President named on Wednesday June 06 a new prime minister, Riyad Hijab, in replacement of Adel Safar, whose government will have lasted little more than a year.

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251. DAWOUD said:

244. KARABENNEMSI

Your problems is that you think that you are the smartest intellectual pants here, which you aren’t! You tried to provide a logical analysis of my earlier comments, but you ended up missing my points and misinterpreting them! No intellectual component here.

Furthermore, you misinterpreted my example of Bill Clinton’s funny inhalation saying. It wasn’t about me accusing you of drug usage (which I didn’t and don’t care if you do or don’t). It was about showing the slickness of people who think that they are giving logical explanations when, in fact, they are being illogical and intellectually slick! Wasn’t it true that even some of Clinton’s supporters loved to call him: “Slick Willie?!”

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June 13th, 2012, 10:17 am

 
 

253. DAWOUD said:

248. ALAN

Although I love TARA and agree with her intellectual intelligence, I agree with you that she posted a long article. I am not hypocritical and I disagree with long cut-and-paste comments, regardless of whether they come from my side or the other side!

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June 13th, 2012, 10:22 am

 

254. Uzair8 said:

#243 Mjabali said:

“…the opposition so far are not giving them {Alawis} anything back…”

Sheikh Yaqoubi from the beginning has been reasonable and used the right language. He called for a civil state for people of all backgrounds and has called for building civilisation and justice.

If you respond with the Sheikh’s recent call to arms then I say the following: The Sheikh now is of the view that due to the regime massacres and brutal behaviour the harm in doing nothing is greater than the harm in taking up arms in defence.

I went to dig up the the quotes (I’ll look for them later) from the Sheikh but came across another media appearance from March 2012 which I had missed. An interesting listen as the Sheikh touches upon the sectarian dimension and also the Annan plan.

9 min long interview with radio RTE (Ireland). March 2012.

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June 13th, 2012, 10:23 am

 

255. Tara said:

Dear Bronco

“the “near future” looks more like decades”

Do not worry Bronco, the near future will come soon enough.  The regime’s turn will come…so much evil can never remain unchallenged.

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June 13th, 2012, 10:24 am

 

256. Dawoud said:

253. DAWOUD

P.S., Alan
I wish that you will be like me not hypocritical and complain when long cut-and-paste articles are posted by Jad, Ann, and others from your pro-dictator side!

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June 13th, 2012, 10:35 am

 

257. Tara said:

Moderator

Sorry for the long link. You can trim it down. I am in a vacation and wanted to misbehave a little…

And by the way, I stumbled upon Yasmeen walking around some alleys this morning. I was almost in tears..

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June 13th, 2012, 10:38 am

 

258. Alan said:

249. BRONCO
the SNC is dolls for cartoon Tigers of Gulf states . course of further developments in the country is independent from them! they will be used as Libyans as cardboard representatives of the country if it would be necessary . متل حضرط لا بحل و لا بيربط !
السيادة ستكون للسيدة موزة

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June 13th, 2012, 10:40 am

 

259. bronco said:

#231 Mina

Civil war is a definite NO for foreign intervention.
Changing a regime could be an easy task with foreign military help, provided the majority of the people want it.
Saying ‘there is a civil war’ is a way to admit that there is no consensus in Syria to change the regime. This is why the SC commenters keep denying it is a civil war.
Intervening in a civil war to prevent civilians from killing each other is a daunting task and contrary to a ‘regime change’ war, it requires lots of boots on the ground and a huge military investment.

These days, no country is ready to send troops and endure many years of fighting. Most countries are withdrawing their troops from Afghanistan.
The ‘drone’ and ‘airforce’ war cannot stop massacres perpetrated by civilians. In addition destroying the security forces and the army will allow more massacres to happen.
Therefore, the Western countries and their arab rich allies countries are facing a double problem: A civil war and Al Qaeeda in Syria.
If the West destroys or weaken the Syrian army, Al Qaeeda may take over Syria and threaten directly Israel. Then as in Yemen, the US will need to be involved to chase AlQaeeda but this time they won’t get the help of the unexisting Syrian army.

With the inability to send enough troops to pacify the country, either the West needs to find and seriously push for a political-only solution to the crisis, or they will have more sectarian massacres and Al Qaeeda at the door of Israel and the ‘moderate’ Jordan and Lebanon.
The moment of truth is now.

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260. Son of Damascus said:

So reading the comments from some of the “don’t call me a regime supporter” Supporters, one would think that the world is living in black and white, while they are living in technicolor, damning the “bloody revo” and their supporters.

Very damning words indeed, because the “bloody revo” has killed over 15,000 Syrians, jailed over 200,000, tortured god knows how many people.

It was the revolutionists that used children as body armour, and it was revolutionists that sent in Shabeha dogs to butcher innocent people. It is the revolutionists that keep bombarding Syrian cities with artillery, mortars, tanks, missiles, and using helicopters to strafe Syrians. Every report from EVERY human rights organization points the finger at the government, yet the revolutionists are the bloody ones.

It is really pathetic to read such simplistic narratives, deriding every news sources that does not fall “in-line” with their backwardness, and proclaiming to the heavens “finally!” when one news source alludes or mentions their mindless drivel, yet when those very same news sources point out the regime heinous crimes they conveniently look the other way. Believing in every word that the callous government news agencies put out, as proof of the cosmic conspiracy.

It is the same people that keep calling for dialogue yet in the same breath calling for the noble Syrian army to finish the job and finally purge Syria of these 3ar3ouri’s Bandarists as if they are not Syrian and they are worthy of being purged.

These same people that keep calling the opposition sectarian but every other post they go into their usual self-righteous tirades about how the opposition are Salafi, AlQaeda, GCC Bedouins, and MB which is nothing more than a cheap veil and facade to cover their ugly hatred and mistrust of their fellow Syrians.

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June 13th, 2012, 10:43 am

 

261. Dawoud said:

260. SON OF DAMASCUS

You say:

“These same people that keep calling the opposition sectarian but every other post they go into their usual self-righteous tirades about how the opposition are Salafi, AlQaeda, GCC Bedouins, and MB which is nothing more than a cheap veil and facade to cover their ugly hatred and mistrust of their fellow Syrians.”

Yes, the pro-dictator commentators here veil their SECTARIAN anti-Sunni hatred with the labels and code words that you mention! Add to them Darryl’s “1400 years of colonization” bigoted complaint.

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June 13th, 2012, 10:50 am

 

262. bronco said:

#255 Tara

“Do not worry Bronco, the near future will come soon enough.”

Which future? The one the SNC is working on to change the mentality of the Syrians ( and the Arabs), a mentality well entrenched in their DNA for generations.
Unless the SNC with their new ‘charismatic’ leader recruits very good psychologists and psychics, the “near future” seem more that a very far hypothetical fantasy.

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June 13th, 2012, 10:51 am

 

263. Karabennemsi said:

Dawoud

I have not tried to analyse your comments, i tried to provoke you to say that you don’t support violence against innocents. If you go further back to my first respond to you, you will see that this was my angle all along.
You, however, were not willing to speak out against violence on innocents civilians.
Instead you brought the Clinton example, and went on about intellectuality and “slick willie”.

I may not be the “smartest intellectual pants” but i certainly would never call someone my brother who advocates the slaughter of civilians.
Thats the difference between you and me. And that is my problem with you

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June 13th, 2012, 11:02 am

 

264. DAWOUD said:

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/13/220434.html

طلاب جامعة كولومبيا يرفضون قبول شهرزاد الجعفري
اعترضوا على إدراجها في برنامج دراسي بوساطة الإعلامية بربرا والترز

الأربعاء 23 رجب 1433هـ – 13 يونيو 2012م

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shame_on_fury_at_baba_aid_5ILnVwbAPFLFkZ9JDZ1DAK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Local
Columbia told: Boot Bashar babe
By CHUCK BENNETT
Last Updated: 9:26 AM, June 12, 2012
Posted: 12:38 AM, June 12, 2012

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shame_on_fury_at_baba_aid_5ILnVwbAPFLFkZ9JDZ1DAK#ixzz1xga8VNiB

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June 13th, 2012, 11:02 am

 

265. Mina said:

Ennahda in Tunis calls people to come out and defend the buildings and to protest against the Salafists, who have also announced a demonstration of force for Friday. The president Ghannouchi calls the Salafists “the counter-revolution”.
Revolution Phase 2? I can’t wait for “freedom of speech” aljazeera to ask Qardawi what is his take on that.
http://www.lemonde.fr/tunisie/article/2012/06/13/le-chef-du-parti-ennahda-appelle-les-tunisiens-a-descendre-dans-la-rue_1717861_1466522.html

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June 13th, 2012, 11:09 am

 

266. DAWOUD said:

263. KARABENNEMSI

See, you have no logical understanding. I have always rejected any kind of violence against innocents. My main reason for opposing Bashar’s regime is that it has been a bloody murderous dictatorship that has killed thousands and thousands of innocents. My resentment of well-known shi’a leaders is NOT that they are Shi’as, but rather because they have supported a murderous dictator and defamed Syria’s innocent victims. I have never called anybody “brother” if I know that they advocate killing innocents, regardless of their sect/religion/nationality/sexual orientation/etc.

As I think that your intellectual interpretations are lacking, I would not take your words as facts when you claim somebody is advocating violence.

Read on…

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June 13th, 2012, 11:09 am

 

267. Tara said:

Bronco

The problem is that you see Arab nationalism and anti imperialism to be the other face of this brutal dictatorship and you also see conspiracy and total dependen on foreign forces to be the other face of the revolution. An incorrect perception.

Was Iraq’s Maliki the other face of the American occupation? Or a phenotype of the mentality entrenched in his DNA?

The simple truth is that we want freedom and dignity and we are not part of any global conspiracy.

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June 13th, 2012, 11:15 am

 

268. zoo said:

Stay Out of the Syrian Morass
Intervention is counter to Western interests.
June 13, 2012 12:00 A.M.
By Daniel Pipes
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302594/stay-out-syrian-morass-daniel-pipes#

As the Syrian government makes increasingly desperate and vicious efforts to keep power, pleas for military intervention, more or less on the Libyan model, have become more insistent. This course is morally attractive, to be sure. But should Western states follow this counsel? I believe not.

Those calls to action fall into three main categories: a Sunni Muslim concern for co-religionists, a universal humanitarian concern to stop torture and murder, and a geopolitical worry about the impact of the ongoing conflict. The first two motives can be fairly easily dispatched. If Sunni governments — notably those of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar — choose to intervene on behalf of fellow Sunnis against Alawis, that is their prerogative, but Western states have no dog in this fight.

Generalized humanitarian concerns face problems of veracity, feasibility, and consequence. Anti-regime insurgents, who are gaining on the battlefield, appear responsible for at least some atrocities. Western electorates may not accept the cost in blood and treasure required for humanitarian intervention. It must succeed quickly, say within a year. The successor government may (as in the Libyan case) turn out even worse than the existing totalitarianism. Together, these factors argue compellingly against humanitarian intervention.
more…

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June 13th, 2012, 11:20 am

 

269. bronco said:

#267 Tara

Your naive simplification is the incorrect perception.

Human ideals have always been manipulated to hide the greed and the quest for hegemonic power. What do you think the hundred thousands employees of the Pentagon, the CIA and the Mossad are doing all day long, reading Rousseau and Tocqueville?

They are “simply” plotting to allow the USA or Israel to protect their economical assets (oil..), the security of the US citizens and their ally, and to get what they want: more power.

The realization of the idealistic aspirations of the Syrian people is the least of concerns. Yet through their media, they manage to project the image of “justice” and ‘respect’ as they know very well that there is a large number of naive people who would take their word blindly.

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June 13th, 2012, 11:40 am

 

270. Jad said:

Telling the truth hurts isn’t it!
The positive outcome of it is that someone finally decided to come out of the closet and call Alqaeda, Salafis and every radical lunatic killer his ‘fellow’ Syrian including the Taleban of Afghanistan and Pakistan and every non-Syrian terrorist who is killing the other fellow Syrians, what a brave and colorful person.
Let the rant and the cries that he was unfairly replied to begen :)

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June 13th, 2012, 11:42 am

 

271. Son of Damascus said:

“The positive outcome of it is that someone finally decided to come out of the closet and call Alqaeda, Salafis and every radical lunatic killer his ‘fellow’ Syrian including the Taleban of Afghanistan and Pakistan and every non-Syrian terrorist who is killing the other fellow Syrians, what a brave and colorful person.”

Is this a joke, I use the TREMS that simpletons use to call us, and that somehow makes me “coming out of the closet” as an 3ar3ouri foreign terrorists?

What is really sad that this person keep proclaiming that they are for Syria, when they are for nothing but ASSAD, happily copying the propaganda that this callous regime is trying to force feed us, and whats worse he BELIEVES it. How so very sad!!!

Not once did I not call anyone a terrorist, or deride anyone based on their sect, faith, or origin. Yet this “dialogue master” takes it upon himself to call everyone that does not agree with his rather callous look at life, a terrorist and then calls out for dialogue.

Oh before I forget since someone here seems to be the newscaster that was hit in the face by a slipper in Halab not long ago, other sons and daughters of Damascus have an important message for him:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chroniclesyrianuprising/7154749679/in/set-72157629992258299

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June 13th, 2012, 11:51 am

 

272. jad said:

‘to call ‘us’?’
(Someone is thinking that he represent everybody, how humble)
I didn’t know that you are an Alqaeda fighter or a Salafi or a Taliban radical ‘jihadis’ who is killing Syrians in the streets.
Are you?
If not then all what I write is not in reference to ‘you’, so drop this useless ranting and attacks and find someone else to bother.
You are not a ‘terrorist’ so get over it and stop confusing yourself being ‘the radical’ whenever anybody writes about those.

Enjoy:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/165480_267433173363694_468202789_n.jpg

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June 13th, 2012, 12:01 pm

 

273. jad said:

Questioning the UN’s child torture charges against the Syrian regime

Like NATO and the GCC countries, the UN (and I don’t just mean the Security Council here) is increasingly becoming a party to this conflict and an instrument of military intervention in Syria. Along with mainstream media, the UN’s human rights bodies, and “international” (i.e. western multinational) human rights organizations, are providing the requires “humanitarian” cover for further militarization of the Syrian crisis—whether that means a NATO invasion or increased military assistance to the rebels—and hence, a cover for a far graver humanitarian catastrophe.
The latest episode of this information warfare campaign is the UN’s Annual Report of the Secretary-General on Children and Armed Conflict which charges the Syrian regime with the most unthinkable crimes against children. Although the report was published before the Houla massacre, the timing of its release will undoubtedly score a major PR victory for the foreign and domestic enemies of the Syrian regime, and further facilitate the interventionists’ agenda.
There is no doubt that the regime is a repressive one and there have been isolated and confirmed instances of torture, most notably the case of the now sacked Governor of Deraa who was responsible for torturing of children writing anti-regime graffiti . But in and of itself, such a heinous crime does not render all unsubstantiated charges of child torture as fact, least of all when a UN body linked to the Security Council is making the charges and doing so based on the flimsiest of evidence.
Indeed, these latest accusations are far-fetched to the point of absurd, and one step away from a baby-incubator narrative a la the “Nayirah Testimony” hoax. The report itself acknowledges that this is the first time Syria has been included in the “shame list.” Yet the Syrian regime seems to have made the leap from first-time offender to worst offender in one go. As described by the UN special representative for children and armed conflict, Radhika Coomaraswamy:
“I have never seen such terrible action against children. We have cases of children really being – things that usually do not happen in conflict areas, where children get killed in the crossfire, but actually torturing children or putting children on tanks and using them as shields. Or summarily executing children. These are things that normally don’t happen in warfare.”
Exactly, these are things which don’t normally happen in warfare because they don’t really need to happen. The full report itself acknowledges that the FSA and other opposition groups are also guilty of committing human rights violations against children, including recruiting child soldiers. This begs the question of why the Syrian Army would use children as human shields when the rebels clearly place no sanctity on children’s lives. An accusation of this kind presupposes that groups which themselves abuse children—presumably the children of their supporters—will somehow be neutralized upon seeing the Syrian army use those same children.
{…}
http://resistance-episteme.tumblr.com/post/25017006444/questioning-the-uns-child-torture-charges-against-the

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June 13th, 2012, 12:07 pm

 

274. NK said:

Son of Damascus

I know you didn’t expect any better from a person who champions the likes of Bassam AL Kadi who openly calls for assassinating others and shamelessly says he’ll dance in their funerals but at the same time, somehow, still proclaims to be a Human rights activist! When someone has that for an idol the racial slurs and masked sectarianism evident in almost all his comments while he lashes out on others doesn’t really come out as a big surprise.

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June 13th, 2012, 12:13 pm

 

275. jad said:

Senator John McCain: The Old Man and the War

U.S. Senator John McCain has confirmed that there are supplies of arms and also the financing of the Syrian armed rebel forces by the Gulf monarchies, especially by the Saudis.

Despite the fact, that the rebel groups have denied it always until now, the news of McCain sets a final point here behind this open secret. There are a massive weapons and cash flow to the combat units of the Syrian “opposition”.

Thus, the recently observed increased activity of foreigners in the ranks of the bandits is also explained by this fact. They are simply paid for this fight. It is said that they receive about 50-100 U.S. dollars per month – this is reported by vesti.ru, citing the “Washington Post”.

This is certainly not a Blackwater-Payment, but the quota that is being fobbed off with these kopecks, are – to say the least – just “consumables”. There are plenty of starvelings and bandits in the region, and that allows the sponsor to put them in any proportion with every killed Syrian soldiers. If more are needed, it is easy to find other masses, in any state that has its “Arab Spring” already suffered.

Just a note: Perhaps an indication of why some politicians in the region are so massive against the unconditional basic income. In Iran, for example, such an unconditional basic income paid is paid since December 2010 – a little which is ridiculous, but this interrupts the poor population stratum quite effectively from the recruitment by the coordinators of various “revolutions” from the region.

The old senator McCain is now quite good at it to “leak” more or less unfiltered information to the public, although he sometimes puts the “big boys” into unpleasant situations by this manner.
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http://www.syrianews.cc/syria-war-of-information-senator-mccain-partly-useful-791.html

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June 13th, 2012, 12:14 pm

 

276. jad said:

The use of children by the armed militias:
بـ الادلة القاطعة هكذا يستغل الاطفال من قبل مسلحو مايسمى بـ الجيش الحر

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June 13th, 2012, 12:25 pm

 

277. jad said:

George Sabra, Haytham Manna and Khaled Alaboud

فيديو: مواجهة “ساخنة” بين جورج صبرا وهيثم مناع وخالد العبود

في حلقة حوارية على قناة “الميادين”، حصل جدال سياسي ساخن حول نظام الحكم والمعارضة ومستقبل سوريا، وتسليح المعارضة، ودخول مقاتلين أجانب إلى سوريا. المتحدثون في الحلقة: جورج صبرا من المجلس الوطني، هيثم مناع من هيئة التنسيق، وخالد العبود عضو مجلس الشعب السوري.
فيديو الحلقة
http://syria-politic.com/ar/Default.aspx?subject=749#.T9i_oRe0xyJ

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June 13th, 2012, 12:29 pm

 

278. Mina said:

Finally some good news, but reported only in the Swedish media:
“Abdulbaset Sieda really hope that President Bashar al-Assad to take to their senses and accept the true democratization, so that Syria do not have the inner conflicts and religious conflicts that could otherwise easily flare up.(…) Ideally, he says, of Syria’s fragmented dissident movement could agree on a number of representatives to reach a compromise with the regime, and then jointly ruled the country towards a safer harbor.”
http://www.unt.se/ledare/tystnad-dodar-demokraterna-1337997.aspx

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June 13th, 2012, 12:34 pm

 

279. jna said:

Atrocities Committed Against Christians By Syrian Opposition Rebels

[...]
“The armed opposition, in fact, as confirmed by numerous observers in Syria and abroad, is gradually radicalizing towards Sunni extremist ideology. There are numerous gangs and military groups that operate in a totally independent manner, outside the coordination of the Syrian Liberation Army. The ultimatum launched by the faction of Abdel Salam Harba, for example, was not ratified by other groups: in a statement sent to Fides, the coordination of the same Syrian Liberation Army, stationed at Qusayr, says it is “shocked by the news” and rejects the ultimatum, saying that it is not responsible and does not share it in any way. Two Catholic priests who fled in recent days from Qusayr, reached by Fides, confirm, however, that they heard “with their ears” of the ultimatum, repeated from the minarets of mosques, and left the city with many refugee families.” [...]

http://www.aina.org/news/20120613084841.htm

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June 13th, 2012, 12:46 pm

 

280. bronco said:

278. Mina

That’s an incredible SNC breakthrough: a compromise

This is why Ghaliun was kicked out. By repeatedly refusing the dialog, he has burnt himself and brought the SNC to a dead end.
The SNC is in a bad need of a new approach to survive.

It is realizing that the help to change the regime will not come anytime soon and in the meantime, Syria if falling into a bloody chaos where brothers are killing brothers.
If the SNC keeps waiting that western countries make up their mind, massacres will continue, Al qaeeda will get closer to the Israeli border and there will be nothing left of the country.

I hope the SNC will agree officially with all 6 points of Annan plan and start to prepare for the dialog with the regime under the UN and Russian umbrella.

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June 13th, 2012, 12:51 pm

 

281. Hans said:

Thanks to Jad for all the news you post here, it exposes what is going in Syria and the criminal supported by bloody filthy countries of the GCC and the west.
Most recent poll shows that Mr. O being not favorite between the Arabs in opposite to when he was elected.
I always have been saying that the american drones is going to be hovering all over the Arabs countries hunting the people its supporting to get to power at the current time.
yes it is a theory of bring the Alqaida to the Arabs countries and kill them in their own homes.
seems brilliant to me.
The foreign fighters ( including the terrorists palistiniens from within syria) who are killing the Syrians are the work of the conspiracy against the civilized Syria.
Many Syrians ( including Sunni) don’t want the MB ( SNC) to rule syria and obviously the SNC is shoved in the mouth of the Syrians, it is only time before the Syrians vomit it out.
Syrian people should get armed and start defending themselves against this terrorists that’s the only way we can have Syria back, then we can deal with the residual regime.

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June 13th, 2012, 1:11 pm

 

282. Badr said:

Can you accuse this reporter of being biased?

Syria’s ‘intractable’ conflict

Paul Danahar, BBC

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June 13th, 2012, 1:19 pm

 

283. Osama said:

242. UZAIR8

You make a good point about the money, but I think you’ve missed the point.

Historically, one of the classic CIA strategies in undermining enemy states has been to print vast sums of counterfeit money… To drive inflation and destroy the value of the currency and eventually to create discontent.

The reason that they are printing new notes is not to create more money supply, but instead the opposite, to combat counterfeit money, and control money supply.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the Russians who came up with idea.

The USD is only currency in the world which can be printed without much fear of creating inflation, the reason being that it is the worlds reserve currency. We all should know and understand the primary source of dollar demand are non-US exporters and foreign governments needing foreign exchange to support domestic employment and keep local factories and businesses busy. Every time you want to export or import anything you need dollars.

So, the rest of the world ends up needing dollars and holding dollars for one reason or another. We , the rest of the world, end up with two options: buy US bonds (or other securities), or buy US non-financial assets (direct investment, real estate, or export goods). As the world economy grows, demand for the dollar grows, independent of what is happening in the US economy.

You end up with nations holding huge sums of dollars, and this gets poured back into the US economy looking for investment opportunities – like sub prime mortgages…. I could go on, but I think this is not economics forum :)

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June 13th, 2012, 1:50 pm

 

284. Juergen said:

NK

Its sad to read almost the stand of the regime in his writings lately, i wish i could see him for a longer talk, I can not understand his moves at this moment. I assume there is freedom to choose the wrong agenda.

Der Spiegel international on the role of Iran and the possibilities that Iran will turn against Assad

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/experts-see-chance-iran-will-distance-itself-from-assad-regime-in-syria-a-838682.html

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June 13th, 2012, 2:07 pm

 

285. zoo said:

Kurds refugees fleeing to Iraq

Number of Syrians fleeing to northern Iraq growing
Published June 12, 2012
Associated Press

BAGHDAD – An aid agency says more than 5,000 Syrian refugees fleeing a bloody government crackdown have now crossed into northern Iraq and their numbers are growing. Iraq’s Kurdish autonomous region is seeking help in coping with them.

The International Organization for Migration said Tuesday that most refugees are ethnic Kurdish Sunni Muslims, some paying around $300 to be smuggled into Iraq by car or by foot.

It said a refugee camp has grown to 3,500 in the past month and local officials have sought help with sanitation and supplies. About 800 more are staying in mosques.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/12/number-syrians-fleeing-to-northern-iraq-growing/#ixzz1xhKGJCOh

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June 13th, 2012, 2:10 pm

 

286. majedkhaldoun said:

Mina
Before anyone get itchy,would you give us the link,with previous arabic and english laguage difficulties, ,with it there may be problem understanding.

watching Jad video,one can only conclude that George Sabra is fit to be the president of SNC and show that Haytham Manna3,has no rational in his thinking

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June 13th, 2012, 2:17 pm

 

287. Juergen said:

I think that Assad is desperatly trying at this stage to regain control over rebel controlled areas, whereas the rebels made gains on the ground, they have no means to get control over the airspace yet. Assad seems to try to use this advantage even though the world is watching him closely. ( the UN observers reported already on witnessed attacks by russian made helicopters)

Der Spiegel on the usage of helicopters by the syrian army

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fsyrien-assad-regime-weitet-einsatz-von-kampfhubschraubern-massiv-aus-a-838568.html

a very good report on the life in Midan

an other Nadja Bitar piece published in DER SPIEGEL today:

“The family is as divided as the country

In the evening, Nabila has filled the living room. Your parents are there – they live just a few meters – and her 21-year-old brother, who still lives with them. The rest of the family since the beginning of the riots had moved abroad: the big sister to the in-laws in Jordan, the oldest brother in Lebanon. Who could have, Syria since left.

A debate is developing. “It is the sniper of the regime, the shooting at the people on the street,” says Nabila brother. “Even some of the activists to shoot,” contradicts Nabila. It was the beginning of the insurgency and now wants to take no side in a party to what the 21 year old makes it a reproach. The family is as divided as the country.

On television, run the news on al-Jazeera. The station is named for its coverage in favor of the rebels in the meantime the “revolution” item. There are pictures of the massacre of hula show, murdered children in pools of blood. All cluck of the tongue: “T, t, t, t, t ‘is intended to mean was: incredibly prohibited.

Nabila’s brother is back as the first language. “The Alawites know no God. They are like animals,” he says of the ruling religious minority, the ruler Bashar al-Assad belongs. “Not all Alawites are so”, he contradicts the father. The brother accusing the TV shows.”

http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fsyrien-aufstand-im-stadtteil-midan-in-damaskus-a-837286.html

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June 13th, 2012, 2:20 pm

 

288. zoo said:

“Like most of you, I imagine, I rejoiced at the downfall of Gaddafi and the blooming of the Arab Spring, and couldn’t understand why we were standing by while Assad brutalised his people.

But in the cold light of dawn, reality is messier, and now there is a suspicion that our sympathies for the downtrodden were hi-jacked by new oppressors, whom our own U.S.-UK ruling regime hopes will be more useful in their great game.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2157318/Syrias-dead-victims-new-Cold-War.html#ixzz1xhO9CLiw

Syria’s dead are victims of the new Cold War
By Peter McKay
PUBLISHED: 22:07 GMT, 10 June 2012

There can’t be any doubt that Syria’s ruler, Bashar Assad, is repressing bloodily those who oppose his rule; but is it black and white, good versus bad — or bad versus just as bad, with innocent victims caught in the crossfire?

Channel 4’s chief correspondent, Alex Thomson, says Syrian rebels tried to have him and his team killed by Assad forces by leading them into a firefight.

‘Dead journos are bad for Damascus,’ he explains, a reference to Marie Colvin of The Sunday Times who was killed in a Syrian forces bombardment. Was she, too, set up by the ‘Free Syria’ forces?
Bloody: There can be no doubt that Syrian President Bashar Assad is repressing those who oppose his rule

Bloody: There can be no doubt that Syrian President Bashar Assad is repressing those who oppose his rule

Now a group of Western women in Damascus has contacted the Mail on Sunday to say rebels ‘fire upon the army with the sole purpose of inciting riot and mayhem’.

They mention a ‘peaceful’ march in which a rebel pulled out a gun and shot dead an unarmed policeman. The following riot was reported as a police attack on peaceful protesters, they say.

True or false? I have no means of telling. The old cliché is that truth is the first casualty in war. We still argue about why the two world wars were fought — even though it’s the centenary of the first one in 2014.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2157318/Syrias-dead-victims-new-Cold-War.html#ixzz1xhNl0KtQ

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June 13th, 2012, 2:21 pm

 

289. irritated said:

#290 Juergen

Rather..

I think that the rebels are desperatly trying at this stage to regain control after their numerous ‘tactical ‘ retreats.

The Syrian army composed of Sunnis, Alawites, Kurds and Christians and others are showing an admirable example of unity, resilience and strength, that should serve as a example to all Syrians fighting against others or cowardly calling for foreign intervention instead of uniting.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:27 pm

 

290. zoo said:

Syrian troops regain control of northern town, dislodging rebels
2012-06-13

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-06/13/c_131650963.htm

DAMASCUS, June 13 (Xinhua) — Syrian troops have succeeded in dislodging armed groups from the mountainous town of Haffeh near the coastal city of Latakia after a week of intense fighting, state-run SANA news agency reported Wednesday.

Syrian authorities have restored peace and tranquility to al- Haffeh, said SANA, adding that those armed groups had carried out acts of arson and sabotage to public and private properties as well as terrorizing local residents there.

An official source in the province of Latakia was quoted by SANA as saying that government troops have tracked down terrorists in that area, killing and capturing a number of them.

Large amount of weaponries was also confiscated during the clashes, said the report, adding that the clashes have also claimed lives of unspecified number of government troops.

Meanwhile, a foreign ministry source called Wednesday on the UN observers to go to al-Haffeh to verify what has been going on in that area, “after the armed groups carried out killing, burgling, and burning.”

UNSMIS calls on the parties to grant UN observers immediate and unfettered access to conflict zones.

Also on Tuesday, the rebel Free Syrian Army reportedly announced its pull back from Haffeh after a week-long fighting. The rebels’ fighting in Haffeh came apparently in a bid to have a foothold in a certain area.

The armed rebels have so far failed to make territorial gains like the one happened in Libya last year, however the rebels have to some extent succeeded in initiating some skirmishes around the capital Damascus recently.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:32 pm

 

291. Juergen said:

Just read an funny article on the mnhbaks favorite Voltaire network.

According to the network NATO is preparing for an disinformation campaign starting on june 15 in which the state tv and a number of pro Assad tv and radio stations will be hijacked and the informations which NATO approved will be aired instead of the regular programme.

“In a few days, perhaps as early as Friday, June 15, at noon, the Syrians wanting to watch their national TV stations will see them replaced on their screens by TV programs created by the CIA. Studio-shot images will show massacres that are blamed on the Syrian Government, people demonstrating, ministers and generals resigning from their posts, President Al-Assad fleeing, the rebels gathering in the big city centers, and a new government installing itself in the presidential palace.”

http://www.voltairenet.org/NATO-preparing-vast-disinformation

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June 13th, 2012, 2:36 pm

 

292. zoo said:

Are Qatar’s and KSA’s arms twistable?

Annan calls for gov’ts to “twist arms” over Syria
2012-06-13
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-06/13/c_131648505.htm

GENEVA, June 12 (Xinhua) — The UN-Arab League joint envoy to Syria Kofi Annan has invited governments with influence to “twist arms” to implement the six-point plan in order to stop the escalating violence, his spokesman Ahmad Fawzi said on Tuesday.

“It is totally unacceptable and it must stop. And that is why Annan has invited governments with influence to raise the bar to another level, to the highest level possible, and twist arms if necessary to get the parties to implement the plan,” Fawzi told reporters.

He said that he hoped the contact group meeting, called by Russia, “will take place soon.”

” we count on these member states with influence on the parties – during this meeting, and as a result of this meeting – to put irrevocable pressure on the parties to implement the plan and stop the killing and begin a political transition,” he added.

The Syrian army on Monday regained control of the rebel-held areas in Homs, a central province which has emerged as a major battleground between Syrian government forces and armed rebels in recent months.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:36 pm

 

293. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Dawoud,

I don’t believe that you make me defend Jad.
Your attitude stink. As a new comer, you should respect those who cared about Syria, long before you “discovered” this Issue. And your Sunni supremacy sucks. We saw your Sunni brothers, and the atrocities they committed in Iraq today. Cut the bulling of members, much senior than you. I recommend some Sunni soul-searching, in the light of today’s events. It would be nice if you would have exercised some humbleness.
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June 13th, 2012, 2:43 pm

 

294. irritated said:

Jurgen #295

Nothing funny about that.

The CIA is just trying to replay the same scenario of the fake fall of Tripoli.

NTC Admits That the Fall of Tripoli Video Was A Fake?

M Abdeljalil admits that they NTC lied and with the support of international media CNN, Al jazeera, Al Arabya, etc with the aim acquiring more support from other countries

Did NATO and the NTC used fake video to manipulate public opinion

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28980.htmabout The fall of Tripoli?

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June 13th, 2012, 2:44 pm

 

295. Juergen said:

Pater Paolo has left Syria according to Ugarit News

أعلن الأب اليسوعي الإيطالي باولو دالوليو، الذي يعمل منذ ثلاثين عامًا من أجل الحوار بين المسيحيين والمسلمين، أنّه سيغادر سوريا “بناءً على طلب الكنيسة والسلطات” السوريّة. وأوضح في حديث لوكالة “فرانس برس” أنّ دير مار موسى الحبشي للسريان الكاثوليك الذي كان يتواجد فيه سيبقى مفتوحًا.

وتجدر الإشارة إلى أنّ الكاهن اليسوعي وجّه “رسالة مفتوحة” في أيار الماضي إلى الموفد الدولي والعربي كوفي أنان أمل فيها بحصول “تغيير ديموقراطي حقيقي” و”تغيير في بنيّة السلطة” في دمشق، إضافة إلى إرسال عدد كبير من الجنود الدوليين لحماية المدنيين.

ونقلت الوكالة عن مقربين من الكاهن اليسوعي إشارتهم إلى أنّ السلطات السوريّة ضاقت ذرعًا بهذه الرسالة وقررت طرد دالوليو.

Irritated

well its quite an endeavour to find “quality journalists” like Al Dunya and state tv to let the folks believe they watch the actual programme.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:44 pm

 

296. Dawoud said:

# 298.

Colonial occupation stinks!

Building colonies and settlements on Palestinians’ stolen land stinks, and is IMMORAL!

Free Syria, Free Palestine! Salute to Syrians’/Palestinians’ “stones vs. firearms” resistance!

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June 13th, 2012, 2:45 pm

 

297. irritated said:

#297 Dawood

Sulking about “cut and paste” and complaining endlessly about posts that are too lengthy for your concentration abilities will certainly contribute to liberate Palestine.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:48 pm

 

298. irritated said:

#300 Juergen

“Pater Paolo has left Syria”

Didn’t you announce a few months ago that he left, “kicked out by the regime”?

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June 13th, 2012, 2:51 pm

 

299. Uzair8 said:

284. Osama

Thank, I appreciate the response and duly gave a thumbs up.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:55 pm

 

300. Tara said:

Bronco

Tara the naive?

Tara the petite Burgoise? Tara with a burqa? Tara the traitor? Tara the Zionist? Tara the MB? Tara the terrorist? Tara the salafist? Tara the fake moderate muslim? Tara the stupid? Tara the Gay girl in Damascus? Tara the American man? Tara the teenager? Tara the old granny? Tara Ibn Jasim? Tara with Aroor?

What is left? Tara the ugly?

In any case, You did come to my mind smelling Yasmeen today.

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June 13th, 2012, 2:57 pm

 

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