Syria and the US – by Sami Moubayed – New Book

Sami Moubayed has just come out with a wonderful book about US policy toward Syria. Forced to flee his beloved Damascus, Sami is now a Visiting Scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Beirut. Bravo Sami

Syria and the USA: Washington’s Relations with Damascus from Wilson to Eisenhower

‘Syria and the USA is a well-told and entertaining overview of US-Syria relations from World War I to the formation of the United Arab Republic. Sami Moubayed provides the reader with insight into how Syrians view events that are crucial to their political development. He explains how general Syrian attitudes toward the US government changed from admiration to anger over the first half of the 20th century and explores how US support for Israeli displacement of Arabs in Palestine and military coups in Syria undermined initial attitudes toward Washington. The author’s interest in the history of women and cinema in Syria gives this diplomatic history cultural depth and a welcome new dimension.’ – Joshua Landis

Here is Philip Khoury of MIT:

The history of relations between Syria and the United States up until the 1960s is little known and understood. Sami Moubayed, one of Syria’s leading young historians, now offers us a remarkably comprehensive study that illustrates how a positive start in diplomatic relations in the early part of the 20th century eventually began to unwind in unfortunate ways by mid-century. Using a variety of sources including the US State Department archives and the private paper collections of Syrian political leaders, Moubayed sheds new light on the political intrigue and shenanigans that were so characteristic of the Cold War era. Scholars and foreign policy experts will appreciate the author’s efforts at reconstructing the history of an important chapter in America’s relationship with the Middle East region.’ –

Comments (146)


zoo said:

Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the USA plotting Syria invasion under the cover of “brainstroming sessions” with Neo-Con thinktanks.

Squeezed, Turkey say no to unilateral military intervention.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-think-tanks-foresaw-gaziantep-bomb-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28535&NewsCatID=359

The Brookings Institute, American Enterprise and the War Studies Institute were the think tanks that took part in the gathering, according to Hürriyet.

During the simulation, Turkey resisted conducting a military intervention until Syria began bombing Turkish towns. Other players who encouraged Turkey to intervene militarily then deserted Turkey in the end, forcing Turkey to go to war against Syria on its own.

Saud Arabia was portrayed as the biggest winner in the case scenario, which started with the fall of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad following the Turkish military intervention. Iraq and Lebanon fell into chaos, while the U.S. paid no attention to anything except the fall of al-Assad.

An 11-page report was published and distributed to members of all the organizations after the session.

August 24th, 2012, 9:52 am

 

Citizen said:

جنوب أفريقيا تشرف كل حكام دول الخليج الأنذال!
Israel summons S. African envoy after ‘occupied territories’ labeling
Israel’s foreign ministry summoned South Africa’s ambassador to formally protest Pretoria’s decision to mark goods from Jewish settlements in the West Bank, with labels reading “Occupied Palestinian Territory”, AFP reports. Ambassador Ismail Coovadia was summoned to the ministry in Jerusalem on Thursday, Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said. Israel blasted Pretoria’s decision as “blatant discrimination” against the Jewish state, while South Africa argued the move was consistent with its position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “This is in line with South Africa’s stance that recognizes the 1948 borders delineated by the United Nations and does not recognize occupied territories beyond these borders as being part of the state of Israel,” said South African government spokesman Jimmy Manyi.

August 24th, 2012, 9:54 am

 

zoo said:

Is it a hidden message to Syrian Opposition?

“Gül was quoted as saying by daily Hürriyet’s Aug. 24 edition. “If a country sought the support of another country’s hand in resolving its own problems, it would be a mistake.”

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-support-for-turkeys-terror-fight-insufficient-gul-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28510&NewsCatID=338

Washington is not lending the amount of support it should be giving Turkey in its fight against terrorism, President Abdullah Gül has said while admitting that Turkey should be able to take its own measures without relying on other countries to resolve the problem.

August 24th, 2012, 9:59 am

 

zoo said:

3. Citizen

That’s a courageous country.
The EU should do the same if they respect the UN decisions to boycott Iran but not the decisions that declares Palestine as an occupied territory.

August 24th, 2012, 10:02 am

 

ghufran said:

Normal relations with the US requires at least one of two changes:
1. a settlement of Arab-Israeli conflict,unlikely in the near future.
2. a GCC-type government led by a personality like Hariri,Syrians will not tolerate that.
a third factor,related to the above two, is Iran.
without common grounds and common interests, US-Syrian relations will remain strained and unfriendly, periods of honeymoons in the past were due to temporary events or initiatives like a new peace effort or cooperation over 911 terrorist attacks,etc.
Israel will remain as the biggest hurdle in the face of normal relations between the two countries, Assad was always,and still is, eager to keep uncle Sam happy,it is Uncle Sam who is unhappy with a regime that is hostile to Israel,at least by proxy,and friendly to Iran.

August 24th, 2012, 10:02 am

 

zoo said:

Two Cheers for Syrian Islamists

So the rebels aren’t secular Jeffersonians. As far as America is concerned, it doesn’t much matter.
BY GARY GAMBILL | AUGUST 23, 2012

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/08/23/two_cheers_for_syrian_islamists

By all accounts, Sunni Islamists are leading the fight against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and are on track to become the paramount political force in Damascus after he’s gone.
The mainstream Syrian Muslim Brotherhood dominates the Syrian National Council, the opposition’s primary political umbrella and diaspora fundraising arm, while more militant Salafi-jihadist groups are assuming a steadily greater role in fighting regime forces on the ground.
Even the supposedly secular Free Syrian Army (FSA) is exhibiting an Islamist character, with one leading commander recently exhorting Syrians to “go for jihad” and “gain an afterlife and heaven.” Many outside observers find the Islamist character of the revolt disconcerting, with some even counseling indirect U.S. military intervention as a means of suppressing it.

August 24th, 2012, 10:08 am

 

zoo said:

One more…

Are Syria’s Rebels Getting Too Extreme?
by Jamie Dettmer Aug 24, 2012 4:45 AM EDT

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/24/are-syria-s-rebels-getting-too-extreme.html

Syria’s 18 month-long conflict is deepening sectarian divisions, breeding more and more openly Islamist Sunni rebels talking about the rebellion ushering in Sharia law—and raising the prospect of an ungovernable post-war nation.

While the international media focuses on whether al Qaeda has latched onto the escalating Syrian conflict, opposition activists and human-rights observers are less alarmed than the Pentagon about the trickle of foreign fighters arriving in the war-torn country than about the home-grown hardening of sectarian attitudes among Syrians and the adoption by rebels of more muscular Islamist views.

August 24th, 2012, 10:10 am

 

zoo said:

The Moslem Brotherhood-lead Egypt is been scrutinized by the USA for its attitude toward Israel and Iran as it will dictate their attitude toward Syria.
If Egypt’s Morsi turns too aggressive toward Israel and too intimate to Iran, the USA may then prefer to keep a weakened Bashar in power in Syria rather than an Islamist government financed by KSA and Qatar that would join its forces with Egypt and possibly Turkey against Israel.

Developments in Iran and Sinai Deepen Israel’s Worries About Egypt
Mohammed Abed/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/world/middleeast/israels-worries-about-egypt-deepen.html

JERUSALEM — With Egypt’s new Islamist president headed to Iran next week and its military deploying tanks in the Sinai Peninsula — possibly outside the parameters of his nation’s 33-year-old treaty with Israel — officials here are increasingly worried about what has long been their most critical regional relationship.

August 24th, 2012, 10:21 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo,

Please read my last post from the previous thread. Don’t you think that arresting a filmmaker because of his dissenting position is a horrendous despicable crime?

August 24th, 2012, 10:21 am

 

VISITOR said:

9 TARA,

Well, unfortunately more despicable crimes are being perpetrated by this shameful criminal regime of Nazis.

This week witnessed a series of massacres most of which were result of use of military aircradt against civilians as you can see in the embedded video. There were two masscres already today,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/24/233938.html

If you are hoping to get any consolation from the Zoo, then think again. The Zoo is only concerned about possible US plans that may or may not prohibit his idol criminals from using jet fighters to kill more civilians. Isn’t a complicit to murder a murderer himself?

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I wonder what one can benefit from a known regime mouthpiece such as Moubayyed. And why does he deserve a post to comment about?

As far as I am concerned he is irrelevant. If I need a Moubayyed, I would simply go to the supermarket and buy a Clorox Bleach.

August 24th, 2012, 10:32 am

 

ann said:

BBC News HD – “Syrian rebels” use prisoners for suicide bombing 2012

August 24th, 2012, 10:50 am

 

ann said:

Chemical Weapons False Flag Against Syria Update

August 24th, 2012, 11:00 am

 

ann said:

Syrian Girl on Alex Jones Update on the Situation

August 24th, 2012, 11:05 am

 

VISITOR said:

It looks like Ann Coulter’s afficionado on this blog is now switching to an audio-visual spamming technique.

What is the difference?

Cut and paste articles consume a lot of physical space. It is a strain on your scrolling down efforts.

Audio-visual spamming is a strain on your internet connection bandwidth.

Whichever way you look at it, it is a waste of efforts and resources.

August 24th, 2012, 11:17 am

 

ann said:

Syrian army takes control of Damascus suburb: opposition – August 24, 2012

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-townbre87n0mv-20120824,0,1755742.story

Hundreds of troops and tens of tanks and armored vehicles were seen on al-Thawra street in the downtown Daraya, taking control of the sprawling suburb as a core group of Free Syrian Army fighters who had been defending the centre pulled out, several activists said by phone from the Syrian capital.

[…]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-townbre87n0mv-20120824,0,1755742.story

August 24th, 2012, 11:22 am

 

Tara said:

Visitor,

Yes. I think I am looking for a reaction. I do not know why I have a psychological need to elicit a reaction ..

It is horrendous when artists become a target. The hearts and brains just can not conform..

August 24th, 2012, 11:31 am

 

zoo said:

Tara

I agree that it is unfortunate for anyone to be put in custody.

This person has provoked openly the government by organizing in many western countries a festival day to celebrate the uprising. As such she is not a harmless ‘artist’ , she is a militant.
I was surprised to learn that she was still in Damascus as nothing has happened and that she has not already being stopped and interrogated.
You must agree that in the present dangerous situation where plots and terrorists acts are going on and where foreign secret services have infiltrated the opposition, any openly anti-regime militant is suspicious and could well be a spy or in the process of organizing activities against national security.
If proven she is not, she will be released sooner or later.
The same applies to the Al Hurra journalists and the US journalist who have been taken in custody.
Being a journalist or an artist does not give immunity.
Syria is at war and unfortunately often people will need to prove they are harmless.
In the USA, this has been going on since 9/11 under the Patriot Act.

August 24th, 2012, 11:32 am

 

VISITOR said:

16 TARA,

Well you asked for it and you got it.

You just got your عذر اقبح من ذنب comment.

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If you want to kmow where sectarianism is manufactured then read this,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/24/233972.html

Over 40% of Tehran and Iran are Sunnis, yet not a single Mosque for Sunnis.

Why do Arab countries allow so-called Shia latmiyya dens?

August 24th, 2012, 11:39 am

 

zoo said:

#17 Ann

Thanks for alerting us on events from different sources that many in this blog prefer to ignore, as they live in their world of predictions and crooked interpretations. They rely exclusively on Al Jazeera and on Al Arabya to dump lies and misinformation without fearing the ridicule.

Please continue with your useful input. It is certainly more valuable than the bitter and empty rantings of some.

August 24th, 2012, 11:42 am

 

jna said:

Maya Naser‏@nasermaya
Reinforcement estimated with 9000 Syrian soldiers have arrived to rural of #Aleppo aiming to restore security.
https://twitter.com/nasermaya/status/238921444816453632

August 24th, 2012, 11:44 am

 

zoo said:

It is not Syria intelligence, it is a Turkish schoolteacher

A father of three children, M.H. was described as a calm-mannered person by his colleagues and friends, who were in shock to hear that the man was accused of sending the car to Gaziantep.

Prime suspect in deadly bombing revealed to be school teacher

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/prime-suspect-in-deadly-bombing-revealed-to-be-school-teacher-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28533&NewsCatID=341

A school teacher was detained Aug. 22 on accusations of organizing a terrorist bombing that killed nine people, including four children.

A car laden with explosives was detonated on the evening of Aug. 20 in Gaziantep, killing nine people, of whom four were children, and injuring 68.

M.H., a school teacher and vice-principal at a school in Siverek district of the southeastern province of Şanlıurfa, was detained in Mersin on Aug. 22 on accusations of organizing the attack and helping deliver the car used in the bombing to its destination.

August 24th, 2012, 11:47 am

 

VISITOR said:

TARA,

I’ll show you a trick that will definitely stimulate a response from the Zoo whe you feel the need. You must have noticed already if you analyzed comments 18 and 19.

But here’s another one,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/bbbdab14-076c-44c7-a732-8ed7bdf7b16b?GoogleStatID=9

Iranian RG’s are suspect in Gaziantep terrorist bombing.

Just expose his god-country, and I assure you, you will get some kind of blablabla.

August 24th, 2012, 11:53 am

 

zoo said:

The full islamisation of Turkey on its way…

We now have the chance to turn all schools into religious schools, says AKP deputy

Friday,August 24 2012
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/we-now-have-the-chance-to-turn-all-schools-into-religious-schools-says-akp-deputy-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28501&NewsCatID=338

The ruling party now has the chance to transform all schools in Turkey into imam hatip religious schools thanks to recent educational reforms, Justice and Development Party (AKP) Deputy Ali Boğa said, private broadcaster NTV reported.

August 24th, 2012, 11:54 am

 

ann said:

#18 ZOO

Thank you for your thumb’s up ZOO 😉

August 24th, 2012, 11:57 am

 

zoo said:

BBC got cold feet as the video was a direct proof that the FSA was committing a war crime by using a prisoner as an unwilling kamizaze?
It must have been copied for future use…

BBC removes Syrian opposition war crime video

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/bbc-removes-syrian-opposition-war-crime-video-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28518&NewsCatID=359

British media giant BBC recently removed a video showing members of the Syrian opposition loading bombs into a pro-regime hostage’s car without his knowledge before asking him to head toward an army base to be released, daily Hürriyet reported.
..
The BBC removed the video from its page a short time after it caused a strong reaction worldwide, without providing any official explanation. The BBC deleted the video from its YouTube page as well.

August 24th, 2012, 11:59 am

 

zoo said:

Turkey stops providing Internet access services to Syria

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-cuts-internet-access-to-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28416&NewsCatID=338

The only firm that is still providing Internet service to Syria is a Chinese company, PCCW, according to reports.

August 24th, 2012, 12:05 pm

 

ann said:

Cyprus displeased at reports that British bases provide help to Syrian rebels – 2012-08-23

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-08/23/c_131803641.htm

NICOSIA, Aug. 23 (Xinhua) — Cyprus said on Thursday it had asked Britain to give an official explanation for a Sunday Times report alleging that the British Sovereign Bases in Cyprus provide intelligence to Syrian rebels which helped them deal effective strikes against the Syrian army.

Foreign Minister Erato Kozakou-Markoulli told the state radio that she had instructed the Cypriot High Commissioner (Ambassador) in London to make a demarche to the British Foreign Ministry asking for official information on the report.

“It is a very serious issue if the Bases are being used for purposes other than those explicitly set out in the Treaty of Establishment,” Markouli said.

She said she expected a British reply by the end of the day.

Markoulli added that the 1960 Treaty of Establishment under which Cyprus was granted independence states that two bases retained by Britain can only be used for defensive purposes.

British paper the Sunday Times claimed on Sunday that British agents operating in the British bases were collecting intelligence on Syrian army movements which is then channeled through Turkey to forces fighting the the Syrian army.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-08/23/c_131803641.htm

August 24th, 2012, 12:18 pm

 

Antoine said:

MUST WATCH :

Dramatic footage of a funeral inside a Mosque in the village of Dael in Daraa Governorate, even as shelling continues on the Mosque :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dcL71-Q_pY&feature=g-all-u

We are now appealing the Royal Jordanian Army and His Majesty to come and invade Daraa Governorate and annex it to Jordan and put the people out of their daily miseries. Daraa is culturally and ethnically closer to Jordan than to Damascus, annex it and keep it until Assad is toppled, after which of course it should be duly returned to the Syrian nation.

Come on your Majesty, take this bold step since Hafez Assad and Salah Jadid did not think twice before invading Jordanian territory in 1969-70 on some silly excuses.

August 24th, 2012, 12:31 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria’s Kurdish minority emerges as a winner in conflict

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1246419–syria-s-kurdish-minority-emerges-as-a-winner-in-conflict
Zeina Karam
The Associated Press August 23, 2012

BEIRUT—Last month, while the world’s attention was focused on battles raging in Syria’s two largest cities, a quiet transformation was taking place in the country’s oil-rich northeast where about two million minority Kurds live.
..
For the first time, Kurdish flags have replaced Syrian flags in towns and villages near the border areas, and cultural centres have sprung up and some people have begun taking classes in the Kurdish language, which was forbidden by Assad. Kurdish parties also are beginning to build networks with their counterparts in Iraqi Kurdistan.

August 24th, 2012, 12:34 pm

 

Tara said:

Ah… Yes Ann, please do not leave us please…Can your friends do anything you may want them to do to keep your charming and useful presence. A thumb up or anything else..just tell us.
(…)

August 24th, 2012, 1:04 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Assad’s trick of chemical arms in danger is working. Now Russia, US and Israel give total support to Assad if he can control the chemical arsenal he own.

The question is the Assad himself will create chaos with the chemical arsenal if he feels he is going to lose power and control. So the question is simple:

US and Israel are afraid of Assad’s chemical missiles.

But at the same time US and Israel know that some of those missiles are in the hands of Hezballah.

So, what we see here is that Hezballah and Assad are not considered a danger for Israel if they own chemical weapons. Assad will be only a danger for all if he is attacked and ousted.

August 24th, 2012, 1:04 pm

 

VISITOR said:

I promise to give Ann a thumb up for every post from now on if she doesn’t leave and I wouldn’t even read the post.

August 24th, 2012, 1:20 pm

 

ann said:

This from Aljazera nonetheless 8)

“The city did not rise up”
“No Aleppo man and youth are fighting”
“All of muslims come from all over the world to fight”
“They’re using a mosque as a forward operating base”
“We saw arabs from saudi arabia and egypt”
“they come from many arab and islamic countries”
“some of them say they come from alkaeda some of them say they come from very islamic groups”

Foreign [terrorists] fighters join the battle of Aleppo – Aug 22, 2012

August 24th, 2012, 1:31 pm

 

SYR.EXPAT said:

After failing to instigate sectarian war in Lebanon through Samaha, it appears that Assad has instructed his low-level thugs in Tripoli to get things going.

Luckily, we now have a good idea about who is behind sectarianism in our region.

On another note, there was a report on CNN about the challenges faced by doctors and medical staff in Aleppo to keep a hospital running despite being bombed by Syrian war planes and despite an attempt by security services to kill the staff. This is a reminder about the type of barbaric regime free Syrians are trying to get rid of. I am yet to see one Assad supporter condemn this barbarism.

August 24th, 2012, 1:40 pm

 

ann said:

Here’s another source of the same Aljazera video in case the forces of evil and hate delete the official youtube version 8)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c44_1345711720

August 24th, 2012, 1:43 pm

 

VISITOR said:

31 SANDRO,

I gave you the thumb down because you used the wrong word.

God does not have a party and is not a politician.

August 24th, 2012, 2:01 pm

 

ann said:

Aleppo Residents Celebrating Cleansing Their Neighborhoods From Turkey’s FSA Terrorists – Aug 23, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ydyIQU6vo

English subtitles 😉

August 24th, 2012, 2:09 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian Rebels Execute 16 Prisoners in Douma – Aug 23, 2012

August 24th, 2012, 2:22 pm

 

ann said:

18+ Syria- Civilians Executed by Radical Terrorists in Al Ghor, Homs Province. – Aug 22, 2012

August 24th, 2012, 2:28 pm

 

Richard said:

5. ghufran said:
“Normal relations with the US requires at least one of two changes:
1. a settlement of Arab-Israeli conflict,unlikely in the near future.
2. a GCC-type government led by a personality like Hariri,Syrians will not tolerate that.”
I don’t know what your objections are to Hariri, but I assume he was a globalist business guy. Why would that be so bad at this juncture?

What precisely do you want for Syria’s near future? As best as I can tell, you wish for the rebellion to fail, and then some sort of accomodation reached with the Assad regime. How will negotiating with Assad, in a position of relative strength, lead to what you want?

August 24th, 2012, 2:51 pm

 

ghufran said:

this reflect the sentiment among a lot of people all over Syria who are now sick of both the regime and the new thawrajieh:
تقول سيدة من حي التضامن “نحن نتعاطف مع الثورة بنسختها القديمة، وليست الحالية، وتسهب في الشرح قائلة، الثورة إنطلقت على الظلم والغبن، ولكن ما يحصل اليوم لا يمت بصلة إلى الأحلام التي رسمناها يوم شرعنا في تنظيم التظاهرات، أيعقل أن يجبر المسلحون اهل حي التضامن على دفع الأتاوات لهم”.
تتابع السيدة الخمسينية كلامها” أحد زعماء المجموعات المسلحة جمع وجهاء الحي، وطالبهم إما بدفع مبلغ مالي كبير، أو انه سيعمل على فتح معركة في الحي مع الجيش السوري، رفض الوجهاء طلبه بداية، لكنهم ما لبثوا أن إنصاعوا لمطالبه بعد قيام عناصره بدهم ونهب محال تجارية تبين أن معظمها تعود ملكيتها إلى معارضين سبق لهم وأن قدموا مساعدات مالية للجيش الحر، ظنا منهم أنه سوف يحميهم من بطش الأمن”.

August 24th, 2012, 2:52 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

مظاهرة معارضة في مدينة إعزاز بريف حلب تهتف لبشار الأسد بعد أن ذاق أهلها ويلات “الجيش الحر” ، وإعلان “إمارة إسلامية” في مارع!؟

http://www.syriatruth.org/الأخبار/أخباروتقاريرأخرى/tabid/94/Article/8109/Default.aspx

August 24th, 2012, 3:02 pm

 

Syrian Natonalist Party said:

أحزاب كردية سورية مختلفة توجه أنصارها بضرورة التركيز على رفع شعار الفيدرالية وإعلان “حكومة محلية” في المنطقة

http://www.syriatruth.org/الأخبار/أخباروتقاريرأخرى/tabid/94/Article/8111/Default.aspx

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SSNPS can deliver most of the demands made by Kurdish speaking Syrians, and plus more than you dreamt of, under SSNPS new Syrian Nationalist Constitution, on the condition that you will remain faithful toward Syria and NOT be like Iraqi Kurds, stooges for Zionist Jews or Zionist Shia undermining the region.

SSNPS also plans to bring freedom from opressive, genocidal Turkmen rule over million Kurds in Eastern Turkey. Statehood and democracy will be coming to you soon after Iskandarun is liberated in 2 Days. Help us get rid of Baathists, will help you get rid of Turkmen.

August 24th, 2012, 3:09 pm

 

ann said:

Syria- Al Qaeda Terrorists blow up Mosques around syria and blame the Syrian Security Forces – Aug 22, 2012

August 24th, 2012, 3:46 pm

 

ann said:

“Free syrian army” firing from inside a classroom – Aug-23-2012

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=566_1345765555

August 24th, 2012, 3:53 pm

 

ann said:

The Citizens of Syrian Golan Rally in Support of the army and the president – Aug-22-2012

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e2_1345751477

August 24th, 2012, 4:05 pm

 

Tara said:

Does the Syrian regime offer a higher pay for propaganda on Friday?

August 24th, 2012, 4:17 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

Does the Syrian regime offer a higher pay for propaganda on Friday?
_____________________________________________________________
Sure, the regime is Moslem one, Friday is Moslem weakened the pay is double accordingly. You can ask Zionist Jews ruler of Arabia Abdullah if he pays double for the whores in his harrim room on Friday. They stingy, I don’t think he does, but Tehran Police Chief that was working for the Zionist Shia’s did pay double on Friday according to the five hookers he got caught with.

Did they ever dangled him like they do for the Persian Citizens caught in same act? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO,He is a Zionist Shia Arabs rulling over Pesians, he is Rotyalty, he goes free. HELP FREE PERSIA OF ZIONIST SHIA MULLAHS, SAVE PERSIA.

August 24th, 2012, 4:23 pm

 

zoo said:

The NAM meeting in Tehran: More teeth grinding for the USA and Israel

Gaza premier invited to Tehran summit
AFP – 15 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-premier-invited-tehran-summit-200658008.html

The Hamas premier in the Gaza Strip, Ismail Haniya, has been invited to the Non-Aligned Movement summit in Iran next week, his office said Friday, without saying whether he would attend.

“The prime minister has received a formal invitation from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to attend the non-aligned summit in Tehran,” a statement from Haniya’s office said.

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas, who heads a rival West Bank-based administration, said last month that he had accepted an invitation to attend.

It will be Abbas’s first visit to the Islamic republic. Haniya was there in February.

August 24th, 2012, 4:36 pm

 

Tara said:

Aldendeshe,

Are all relegions equally evil? Is there a better religion in your opinion?

August 24th, 2012, 4:41 pm

 

zoo said:

Tawfiq Okasha “The Goebbels Of Egypt”

http://news.yahoo.com/sneer-egypt-tv-host-challenges-islamists-182906589.html

Last year, after U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized Egypt’s military, Okasha taunted her over her husband’s 1990s affair with Monica Lewinsky. “I like you, Hillary, really, you’re cute, blonde hair, sweet as cream,” he said with a sneer. “It made me so sad when little Monica made a fool of you.”

When Clinton came to visit in July after Morsi’s victory, Okasha accused the U.S. of helping bring Islamists to power, and his supporters protested outside her hotel, chanting, “Monica, Monica.”
….
Political analyst Ammar Ali Hassan compares him to “Hitler’s minister of propaganda (Joseph) Geobbels.”

“Okasha speaks a simple language that is easily digested by the marginalized and those who might have zero knowledge or literacy,” said Hassan. “For the farmer sitting in his field or the mechanic who watches Okasha, he feels that he can also be a leader or a presenter.”

August 24th, 2012, 4:44 pm

 

zoo said:

The dreaded but predictable spill over of the Syrian violence and unrest to the neighbors is happening. Next are probably Jordan and Turkey.

Deadly flare-up in Lebanon stokes Syria spillover fears
http://news.yahoo.com/sunni-sheikh-killed-north-lebanon-clashes-060459040.html

August 24th, 2012, 4:52 pm

 

ghufran said:

from the comment section after the FSA was compared to cockroaches by anti regime bloggers who were angry at the tactic of swift attacks followed by a swift withdrawal:
تشويش من الطائفة النصيرية . النسر الســوري .
عندما غزا العلويين حمص اعتباراً من 1970 قادمين من الريف لم يكن آنذاك في حمص علوي واحد ولكن بدؤوا يستوطنون حمص ويبنون مساكن لأنفسهم في الطرف الجنوبي الغربي من حمص وأقاموا مايُعرف اليوم بحي النزهة وعكرمة النزهة والزهرة ووادي الذهب وهذه أحياء لم تكن موجودة قبل 1970 . واليوم طردوا جميع سكان حمص الأصلين من بيوتهم في أحياء الخالدية والبياضة وباب السباع وجورة الشياح وغيرها وغيرها وأصبحت حمص للعلويين فقط . أما في دمشق فيوجد فيها مليون علوي حسب آخر المراجع وهم متوزعين بشكل عشوائي في جميع أحياء دمشق . وهؤلاء الذين يصفون الجيش الحر بالصراصير هم من علويي حي التضامن ومن شبيحته الذين طاب لهم الجلوس على كرسي الحكم 42 سنة رغم أنهم بهائم فأمر طبيعي أن يكونوا أعداء للجيش الحر
Comment: regardless if what the guy is saying is true or not,the FSA will be remembered as being an instrument in the destruction of Syria, those of you who want us to give the FSA a pass because the regime is a big part of the destruction have forgotten how the FSA was sold to us and what was the message, the FSA was supposed to be a group of patriots who defected to protect civilians, FSA members claimed that they abide by a certain code of conduct that separates them from regime forces, the truth is:
The FSA and the regime are partners in destroying Syria.

August 24th, 2012, 4:53 pm

 

zoo said:

#53 Ghufran

The FSA reluctance to prevent Islamists and foreign fighters to pollute them has made them accomplice to all the murders and abuses these Islamists terrorists have done and are still doing to Syria.
If they claim that their number is exaggerated, what are they waiting for to stop them?

The FSA is now a candidate to war crimes indictment as much as the regime and the videos, witnesses and proofs are abundant enough to have their leaders jailed.

I guess it is time they realize that they have no choice than call for a truce, without any preconditions before going deeper into crimes.

August 24th, 2012, 5:02 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

The full islamisation of Turkey on its way…

_________________________________________________________________

The only reason the NWO supporting Islam and Sharia Law is because it allows them to use this religion to accomplish a Planetary Slave Colony goals their Re^pt^ilian masters ordered them to bring about on planet earth, a slave colony like that on the moon, Mars and other planets in orbit. Annually millions of missing people ends up in these slave colonies. Wars are perfect means to cause social havoc that ends up in millions missing on all sides. Well they are not dead, they just got loaded up and herded into secret places that your Re^ptil^ian controlled educational systems will teach you that either not possible, or do not exists.

Another advantage of Islam and its Sharia laws that all countries and in the Western world, specially now in USA are allowing, even promoting, is that they wants to make Burka, face cover and Hijab as normal and acceptable form of attire in the Western world. But it is not for love of Moslems this Sharia is being promoted, it is to allow Aliens who’s skin color and texture, eyes and facials would scare the hell out f humans if they seen on the street of New York. But they will hardly get noticed dressed up in Burqas or adorning silicon face skin mask continently tucked under the Islamically legal Hijab and a long un-shaped body garment, walking out of the New Islamic Center and Mosque built close to the 9/11 demolition site. Alien in flesh among us, BIZZAR but it is already a fact, they are and will be supervising the Hybrids they managed to install all over the earth’s societies functions.

August 24th, 2012, 5:03 pm

 

Aldendeshe said:

After six attempts, revision and a bunch of deletions,I managed to get this above posted here, none of the links passed the filter not one by one or combined.

August 24th, 2012, 5:07 pm

 

Johannes de Silentio said:

#53

“the FSA will be remembered as being an instrument in the destruction of Syria.”

No. The Assad Mafia will be remembered for that, if Syria is in fact destroyed. But if it isn’t, the FSA will be remembered as the instrument that destroyed those things needing destruction (the Assads, the soviet-style security and intelligence bureaucracies, the crony capitalism, the militarism).

August 24th, 2012, 5:09 pm

 

SYR.EXPAT said:

How very convenient to equate the aggressor with the victim. Anyway, history will blow all that away, but what remains is the legacy of this terrorist regime. A dark chapter in the history of Syria written by barbarians. When their time is up, they’ll go away and leave destruction in their wake and without having made any significant contribution to civilization.

August 24th, 2012, 5:10 pm

 

Visitor said:

I feel so sorry that despite my efforts to raise Ann’s popularity on this blog by giving her thumbs up, I was not able to make a dent in her miserable record. I further felt ashamed that in some instances I was the only one cheering.

Sorry Ann, if you do not show me the trick you used few posts ago in getting som 40 thumbs up on some posts that look as mediocre as the ones you have here if not worse, I may not be able to help you. I also feel great pressure swimming against the tide all by myself.

August 24th, 2012, 5:10 pm

 

zoo said:

Fadi Salem ,originated from Aleppo, is the co-author of the Arab Social Media Report and director of governance and innovation at the Dubai School of Government in Dubai.

Fadi Salem @FadiSalem
FSA losing support in Aleppo fast. Hardcore activists are now publicly & forcefully criticizing them. Few tweets to quote them: #Aleppo #FSA
24 Août 12

“They are a bunch of anarchists. They have no plan. They want chaos. We want a better state” – Activist in Aleppo on the FSA #Aleppo #FSA
24 Août 12

Fadi Salem @FadiSalem

“There’s a Saudi militant now living in my home in Salaheddin neighborhood. He took it over!” – An activist in Aleppo #Aleppo #Syria #FSA

Fadi Salem @FadiSalem

“They have no regards what so ever for civilian life. They hide among them, leave them when shelling starts” – Activist on FSA #Aleppo #FSA

August 24th, 2012, 5:17 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

59. ZOO

I had the chance to know personally Fadi Salem. He is a good guy but does not dare to say what he says in Dubai when he is in Syria. He simply fled Syria and left syrians alone. What is his political proposal to Syria?

Keeping popular peacefull movement while Assad killers bullet them and later detain them to torture til dead? Is this what he teaches in Dubai or probably defending the authoritarian rule as the only possible way to control “wild and ignorant” arabs.

Pfuu aleik !!!

August 24th, 2012, 5:26 pm

 

Tara said:

Salute to all film makers who stand against the tyranny.  Salute to Omar Amiralay in his grave.  What is expected from a peasant?    Nothing less than targeting arts and artists under the embellishment of a greedy wife with a twisted spiky crystal studded taste…  

Syria arrests film-maker who helped victims of government crackdown
By Khaled Yacoub Oweis | Reuters – 

AMMAN (Reuters) – Security forces in Syria have arrested a documentary film-maker who helped people made homeless or jobless by troops loyal to President Bashar al-Assad, his friends said on Friday, part of an apparent crackdown on the country’s secular intelligentsia.
Arwa Nairabiya – who founded the “Damascus Dox Box” documentary film festival – was arrested at Damascus airport on Thursday evening before boarding a plane to Cairo, fellow film-makers and relatives said.

The 35-year-old was part of a new generation of Syrian film-makers and had defied a state ban on culture before the revolt against Assad began 17 months ago.
“It seems it is a crime to establish an independent cinema movement in Syria,” said fellow Syrian director Ahmad Malas, in a video statement recorded at an undisclosed location outside Syria.
“We call for freedom for Arwa Nairabiya, actor, producer and graduate of the Syrian Higher Cinema Institute who is always smiling.”
One of Nairabiya’s friends, speaking from Damascus on condition of anonymity, said he feared for the arrested man’s safety. “We pray that Arwa gets off lightly. The regime has been brutal towards Syria’s intellectuals,” the friend said.

Three months ago, Assad’s forces shot dead Bassel Shehadeh, another young film-maker who had abandoned a Fulbright scholarship in the United States to document a military crackdown on the central city of Homs.
In another incident, authorities blamed “treacherous hands” for the killing earlier this month of director Bassem Mohiedine in a Damascus suburb rocked by clashes between the military and rebels. No one claimed responsibility for his death.

In a third case, the relatives of sculptor Wael Qastoum said he died last month after being tortured in a Damascus prison.
Qastoum, a Christian from Homs, had spoken out against state repression, said a relative who asked not to be named.

Other leading cultural figures have been badly beaten – secret police agents last year assaulted Ali Farzat, the country’s best known cartoonist, and broke both of his hands.

Many of the new generation of film-makers have been inspired by French-educated Syrian director Omar Amiralay, who made international award-winning films that chronicled what he regarded as Syria’s demise under the Assad family’s rule.
Amiralay died of natural causes aged 66 one month before the uprising broke out, having famously warned Assad that Syria “is marching steadfastly on its hooves to its own demise, after being betrayed by its rulers.”
 
(…)
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-arrests-film-maker-helped-victims-government-crackdown-191244378.html

August 24th, 2012, 5:41 pm

 

Tara said:

Bravo Morsi!  Can he teach the peasant something?

• Egyptian president Mohamed Morsi will exercise his legislative mandate to prohibit the detention of journalists, after a court on Thursday remanded into custody a newspaper editor standing trial for defaming him. The court ruled that Islam Afifi, whose newspaper has been critical of Morsi and warned of dire consequences of Brotherhood rule in Egypt, should be detained until his next hearing in September. However, shortly after the ruling, the vice-president, Mahmoud Mekki, told the el-Badil newspaper that Morsi intends to pass a law to prohibit the detention of journalists in such cases, using legislative powers he possesses in the absence of parliament.

August 24th, 2012, 5:49 pm

 

Tara said:

If some Kurds are allowed, they will sabotage the meeting.  Mark my word.

Syrian opposition unity talks marred by boycott threat
Assad regime’s opponents will meet in Cairo to discuss transition plan with or without Syrian National Council, says EU diplomat
Friday 24 August 2012 14.35 EDT

The Arab League is to host a meeting of the Syrian opposition in Cairo on Saturday in an effort to produce a common programme to unite opponents of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, but the effort has been marred by disunity and a threatened boycott by the Syrian National Council (SNC).

Internal groups and members of the diaspora were invited to nominate delegates to the committee to draft a transition plan for a post-Assad Syria, but the SNC, which has been the main grouping for opposition exiles, had still not come forward with a name by Friday evening.

“The meeting is going to go ahead with or without them. It’s time for them to wake up and smell the coffee,” said a European diplomat, who believes the SNC is reluctant to see its prestige diluted to just one voice on a 21-strong opposition committee.

Over recent months, the UK and the US have abandoned their initial policy of encouraging regime opponents to coalesce around the SNC because of the dominant role of the Muslim Brotherhood in the council and its apparent failure to forge ties with rebel groups inside Syria.

The UK announced earlier this month it would channel £5m in new non-military aid to internal opposition groups rather than the SNC.

France has continued to lend support to the SNC and its officials said they were still trying to persuade the group to take part in the Cairo talks.

Meanwhile, Paris played down reported remarks by the defence minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, which appeared to reflect backing for some form of no-fly zone over part of Syria. Officials said he had been misquoted and any foreign air activity over Syria would be illegal.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo

August 24th, 2012, 5:58 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Consider the following tweet update on Yalla Souriya from about 15 minutes ago:

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The Syrian Days Of Rage – English
(08-24-12) AlbuKamal #Syria | The Free Syrian Army announced that it has taken control of over the Hajana military barracks and has captured the military equipment and weapons stored there. #FSA http://ow.ly/ddirA

http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/the-syrian-days-of-rage-english-08-24-12-albukamal/

*******

2 points:

– Unless the FSA have already removed useful items and left the barracks, it would be a mistake to announce this news as the regime could send an aircraft to attack the location.

– This gives an idea. FSA could make such false announcements to deceive the regime hoping it sends MiGs to bomb it’s own barracks and troops.

August 24th, 2012, 5:59 pm

 

Visitor said:

Today’s Tripoli problem was implanted by idiot senior who planted 30000 Alawis in a city where they do not belong,

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Aug-25/185651-despite-firepower-sunni-push-into-jabal-mohsen-unlikely.ashx#axzz24VFu78Sk

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Maalouf makes a damning case against Mr. Obama,

http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=430439

August 24th, 2012, 6:09 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Ann and Zoo telling us Aleppo is being reclaimed by the Regime.
JNA reporting the sending of 9000 more troops to Aleppo.

I just saw this update in which FSA has apparently confirmed it controls 80% of Aleppo:

http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/markito0171-syria-aleppo-free-army-confirms-full-control/

August 24th, 2012, 6:12 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo@17

You replied while I was handling an emergency at work so I decided to postpone reading until done.

It is certainly unfortunate that your reaction was as such… And to tell you the truth, it saddens me to a degree that I now wish I never asked!. To characterize an artist organizing days of festivity supporting the people of the revolution in their struggle for freedom and dignity as a “militant” is incomprehensible. The burden of proven “harmless” does not fall on the innocents. It falls on the state. Would you be willing to support the notion of arresting Alawis and Christians in the new Syria until they prove themselves harmless?

It is disappointing that in pursuing a dogma, the line between what is obviously right and what is obviously wrong becomes very murky.

August 24th, 2012, 6:18 pm

 

VISITOR said:

66 UZAIR8,

Did you for a minute believe a word of what these robots said today?

I would like to hear a RESOUNDING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO from you.

Otherwise, I would be very disappointed, because you are a seasoned participants here and you should have become immunized long time ago to their bull.

I NEVER DOUBT THAT OUR GREAT HEROES OF THE FREE ARMY OF THE BLESSED REVOLUTION WILL EVER FAIL TO PREVAIL IN THIS SACRED FIGHT AGAINST THE FORCES OF EVIL, THE REJECTS OF THE HUMAN RACE AND THE REMNANTS OF THE DELINQUENTS OF THE NAZI CRIMINALS.

August 24th, 2012, 6:34 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

68 Visitor

LOL

The answer is a big NO.

Just giving some context to justify sharing the unverified FSA claim about 80%. I didn’t watch the video as I assumed it would be in arabic so I don’t know what the FSA have said.

August 24th, 2012, 7:02 pm

 

SYR.EXPAT said:

Now that takes some courage.

August 24th, 2012, 7:13 pm

 

Visitor said:

69 UZAIR8

Did I help in your contextualization effort?

August 24th, 2012, 7:27 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

71 Visitor

I guess my motive was partially to counter their (Robots) claims but a greater part was to use them as an excuse to post an unverified and bold FSA claim. It would be wrong to post too many tweet updates so one has to cherry pick and justify posting them in ones mind.

About the 80% claim. It’s hard to know the reality as deception is part of warfare. I believed the FSA was in control of 60-70% of Aleppo. Could they have increased the territory? It’s possible. We are hearing of fighting in central parts of Aleppo.

August 24th, 2012, 7:58 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian opposition unity talks marred by boycott threat – Friday 24 August 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

The Arab League is to host a meeting of the Syrian opposition in Cairo on Saturday in an effort to produce a common programme to unite opponents of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, but the effort has been marred by disunity and a threatened boycott by the Syrian National Council (SNC).

but the SNC, which has been the main grouping for opposition exiles, had still not come forward with a name by Friday evening.

[…]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

August 24th, 2012, 8:07 pm

 

Ghufran said:

كشفت مصادر في المعارضة السورية عن ان “نائب الرئيس السوري فاروق الشرع، المختفي منذ 20 يوما عن الانظار، بات خارج سيطرة النظام السوري وانه في مكان امن خارج سوريا مع عدد من افراد عائلته الصغيرة”.
واضافت المصادر في حديث لصحيفة “الزمان” العراقية ان “الشرع انشق فعليا عن النظام وانه كان تحت الاقامة الجبرية منذ شهور وان الرئيس السوري بشار الاسد تجاهل الاتصال به طوال فترة اندلاع الاضطرابات في سوريا لاسيما بعد احداث درعا التي يتحدر منها الشرع نفسه”. واستبعد المصدر ان “يكون الشرع قد اجرى اتصالات مع المجلس الوطني السوري لكنه لا يستبعد تنسيقه مع الجيش الحر”، على حد وصفه.
Bashar decided that he does not need any politicians by his side,he saw this uprising as a war from day one and he had no intention to give in or compromise , unfortunately this line of thinking is not limited to Bashar inner circle and hard core supporters,this is why I think Syria will be divided in one way or the other even if we do not hear about new independent states,it is a defacto partition, my fear is that separatists may escalate sectarian and ethnic cleansing using violent and non violent methods.
A friend asked me if I think that a poor alawi citizen in need for specialized medical care is likely to find any hospital in Damascus accepting him in the future, the honest answer is that I do not know.

August 24th, 2012, 8:15 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أكد عضو كتلة “المستقبل” النائب جمال الجراح ان الشمال وعكار فتحت منازلها لاحتضان الشعب السوري النازح من تحت القصف من منطلق انساني، مشددا على ان “اهالي عكار والشمال يساندون الشعب السوري على نية واضحة ولكن الخلاف هو على حدود هذا الدعم”.
وشدد في حديث تلفزيوني على ان “ليس هناك جهة تساعد بالسلاح والذخيرة وكل الادعاءات التي تم اطلاقها علينا اثبتنا ان لا اساس لها من الصحة”.
وعن الاحداث في طرابلس اعتبر ان “جرح طرابلس كبير وعميق وقديم وفي جبل محسن هناط طرف تابع للنظام السوري، ولهذا النظام مصلحة بادخال لبنان في اتون الفتنة وسبق وتورط هذا النظام بقضية تهريب متفجرات عبر الوزير الموقوف ميشال سماحة وهذا دليل على نية النظام في لبنان التي اعلن عنها عندما قال سنحرق المنطقة”، مشددا على ان طبيعة الناس الموجودة في باب التبانة اصبحت واضحة بمطالبتها بدخول الجيش اللبناني الى الشمال وهذا الموقف تم اطلاقه من موقف نائب في تيار المستقبل.
وعن الحدود اللبنانية السورية اكد ان فريقه السياسي طلب اكثر من مرة من الجيش اللبناني ان يضبط الحدود لان لا مصلحة لنا بترك الحدود على حالها ونناشد الحكومة ان توفر الغطاء السياسي للجيش للانتشار، مشددا على ان لا احد في لبنان يريد ان يرسل السلاح لسوريا ولنا نريد ان ترسل لنا سوريا المتفجرات.

August 24th, 2012, 8:19 pm

 

ann said:

US Desperation Surfaces in Syria – Tony Cartalucci – Infowars.com –
Aug 21, 2012

US-led NATO forces armed, funded, trained, and even provided air support for Libyan terrorists emanating out of Libya’s eastern Cyrenaica region – most notably Benghazi which had served as the premier international terrorist recruiting ground in the world, according to the US Army’s Combating Terrorism Center, producing a percentage per capita of militants outstripping even that of Saudi Arabia.

Operating under the banner of the “Libyan Islamic Fighting Group” (LIFG), a US State Department,British Home Office, and United Nations-listed international terrorist organization, and officially merged with Al Qaeda in 2007, its commanders including Abdul Hakim Belhaj and Mahdi al-Harati led NATO’s military proxy forces on the ground as US, French, and British planes destroyed the nation from the air.

These very same commanders of this very same listed-terrorist organization would then turn its cash, weapons, and fighters on Syria, as early as November 2011, arriving on the Turkish-Syrian border to enjoy yet another NATO safe haven and logistical networks overseen by Western intelligence along with US funding and arms laundered through Gulf Cooperative Council (GCC) members such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

With the tactical situation inside Syria deteriorating for Western proxies and international consensus shifting in unprecedented directions against Washington and London, shareholders in the West’s latest adventure appear to be making tacit moves to divest their support and protect their own interests, lest they be left with the ignominious results of an increasingly compounding failure.

Obama’s Recent Threats

With this in mind, the US has been making increasingly unhinged “Bush-esque” remarks regarding “weapons of mass destruction” in Syria and attempting to expand the pretexts under which it could “militarily intervene.” Even the very “movement” of Syria’s “unconventional weapons” in a “threatening manner,” US President Barack Obama claimed in a recent statement, would constitute a “red line.”

Obama claims that the US “fears” Syria’s unconventional weapons ”falling into the hands of the wrong people.” If the US is willfully arming, funding, and threatening to back militarily, listed Al Qaeda terrorist organizations, then whose hands is the US referring to? And while the US struggles to foment victory in Syria, it seems to have stretched its support for terrorism all the way to Russia’s Caucasus Mountains, reigniting violence there, linked to Al Qaeda as well.

To say that the US is overstretched is an understatement. It is overstretched politically, economically, and tactically. It risks a historically unprecedented collapse that would destroy all shareholders invested in its increasingly unhinged and transparently illegitimate ambitions. Nations, in particular GCC members, are beginning to realize with acute alarm that their support of Washington’s agenda is now threatening their very self-preservation. A victory even at this point would still likely be Pyrrhic.

No matter how well Syria goes for the West from this point on, the mechanisms it has used to get here, including its “Responsibility to Protect” doctrine, the legitimacy of the UN, the West’s so-called commitment to “human rights,” and the narrative of the so-called “War on Terror” have been undermined beyond salvage.

[…]

http://www.infowars.com/us-desperation-surfaces-in-syria/

August 24th, 2012, 8:20 pm

 

Ghufran said:

تونس ـ يو بي اي: أثار الرئيس التونسي المؤقت منصف المرزوقي غضب حركة النهضة الإسلامية، شريكه الأساسي في الحكم،عندما اتهمها بممارسة أساليب النظام السابق نفسها من خلال سعيها للسيطرة على دوائر الحكم في البلاد
وقال المرزوقي في كلمة ألقاها عنه بالنيابة وليد حدوق خلال الجلسة الإفتتاحية للمؤتمر الوطني الثاني لحزب المؤتمر من أجل الجمهورية الذي بدأت أعماله مساء الجمعة تحت شعار ‘ملتزمون’،’إن ممارسات حركة النهضة الإسلامية أو ‘الحزب الحاكم’ تشبه ممارسات بن علي بخصوص السيطرة على مختلف دوائر الحكم، وتعيين اتباعه في مختلف المراكز الحساسة للدولة الى جانب المماطلة في تحقيق التنمية’.

August 24th, 2012, 8:47 pm

 

Johannes de Silentio said:

#77

Ann, you need to stop posting cut-and-paste screeds like that in 77 above. You’re embarrassing yourself. Tony Cartalucci is a world class nut. He’s the goofball who posited the theory that the Osama Bin Laden killing was a hoax perpetrated by the New World Order. He probably thinks the 1969 Moon Landing was a hoax, too.

A bit of advice, Ann. Read before you post. Please? Trust me, reading is not that hard.

August 24th, 2012, 8:52 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The number of refugees fleeing civil war in Syria has surged to more than 200,000, the UN said on Friday, as fighter jets and tanks reportedly unleashed deadly new raids in hotspots across the country.
Claims by both the regime and the rebels about controlling most of Aleppo are hard to verify,an FSA fighter put it simply as ” we do not have enough weapons and they do not have enough men”. This explains the extensive use of air power by the regime and the latest effort by Turkey to increase the odds of launching a military campaign to tip the balance in the rebels favor,the end result is that Syria is being destroyed.
شكر الله سعيكم
دايمه

August 24th, 2012, 8:56 pm

 
 

Son of Damascus said:

Someone I know posted this on their Facebook:

إذا تحولت حماية الأقليات والتي هي كلمة تتضمن حق وعدل وانسانيه إلى طريقة تتخبى وراها أبشع أنواع الجرائم ستصبح هذه الجملة لعنة تلاحق هذه الأقليه إلى الأبد

For what it is worth, the person is an Alawi that lives in Damascus.

August 24th, 2012, 9:31 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Another reality check from the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-regime-hits-back-damascus
Without help from Turkey-NATO, the chances of a military defeat of the Syrian army are not good, it is time for the majority to speak up against violence and demand an end to bloodshed and the beginning of a political dialogue that include all willing parties.
Expect stiff resistance to any political initiative from forces,domestic and foreign, that bet their political life on a radical and violent regime change.

August 24th, 2012, 9:40 pm

 

Son of Damascus said:

Tara,

I would like to make one thing regarding Arwa Nairabiya clear that ZOO falsely claimed, he/she wrote:

This person has provoked openly the government by organizing in many western countries a festival day to celebrate the uprising. As such she is not a harmless ‘artist’ , she is a militant.

That is just not true at all, every single documentary shown during the Syria Global Day was previously screened in Syria, and the four previous film festivals were held in Damascus except for this year, this is why according to them:

The fifth edition of DOX BOX International Documentary Film festival in Syria this year was supposed to take place in March, and conclude on March 15th , 2012. However, the festival team has decided to refrain from holding this edition in protest against the killing and oppression of civilians in this country. Herewith our message to the world:

We are outraged, disheartened and anguished at the silence of the world as it has witnessed the massacre of our people. Silence is complacency. Our people, whom, for the record, have embraced the magical gaze of documentary cinema in Damascus, Homs, Tartous, and Aleppo, laughed, cried and dreamed, watched stories and people from Egypt, Serbia, Tunis, Denmark, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Burma, Chile, Morocco, Ecuador, Algeria, France, Lebanon, Palestine, Holand, the USA, China, India, the UK, Germany, Czeck Republic, Turkey, Finland, Sweden, Jordan… and many other countries and people in the world…

http://www.dox-box.org/index.php?lang=2

August 24th, 2012, 9:47 pm

 

Tara said:

Dear SOD

Borrowing from your link:

“This silence means that the world only sees in Syria the Hamidiyyeh Souq, the Crusader castles, and a handful theories about geo-strategic equations in the region… It is the same narrow lens through which we once used to see the world through, when we were in the 1980s, isolated, learning about the people of the world of the world through our ‘confiscated’ evening news broadcast… when all we knew about other people was our government’s briefing of their governments’ political agendas. This was the reason why DOX BOX, since it was born, fought hard to forge a space where we, Syrians, can share and understand how human fears, aspiration, questions and dignity can be one, across the planet, and still be variant and colorful.”

This deserves a silent tear.

August 24th, 2012, 9:57 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian troops hammer insurgents across the country – Aug 25, 2012

Fierce clashes have intensified between the Syrian Army and armed groups, on a day in which the insurgents suffered heavy losses.

On Friday, Syrian troops attacked insurgent positions across the country, Press TV reported.

Syrian government troops killed a number of armed men in the suburbs of the cities of Aleppo and Lattakia.

They also destroyed an armed group’s base near Aleppo.

Several armed men died in fighting with government troops on the outskirts of Lattakia, which is the main port of Syria.

The Syrian Army also launched attacks on armed groups in Damascus and the nearby cities of Darayya and Duma, killing a number of insurgents.

Syrian security forces also killed many anti-government insurgents in the western governorate of Homs in the cities of Talbiseh and al-Qusayr.

[…]

http://presstv.com/detail/2012/08/25/257986/syrian-troops-hammer-insurgents/

August 24th, 2012, 10:02 pm

 
 

Aldendeshe said:

81. Ghufransaid:

Expect stiff resistance to any political initiative from forces,domestic and foreign, that bet their political life on a radical and violent regime change.
________________________________________________________________

GEEEES GHUFRAN,

We have been trying to talk to Assad for a decade, before even the Iraq invasion. Arrogant, they only trust in military power, nothing else. If they know you can’t brow beat them, they don’t even look-over the shoulder on you. I will try to find file copy of the very first letter I written personally to Assad and sent to the foreign ministry via an embassy employee by the name of Khaddam (no relation he said). After he assured me he sent it to Damascus the idiots at the embassy banned my phone calls. That is the idiocy level of Baathist servants.

August 24th, 2012, 10:31 pm

 

zoo said:

63. Tara

Finally the SNC died of pollution.
A new era opens for the opposition. I hope they’ll stay away from Turkey, KSA and Qatar as well as France and come up with a workable reasonable and peaceful plan that includes all Syrians.
If they fail, then it will the proof that Syria can’t jump in an instant democracy, but must go through a slow transformation with lots of painful compromises that will displease many.

August 24th, 2012, 11:14 pm

 

Son of Damascus said:

Journalist and former marine Austin Tice has been missing in Syria for over a week now, his fate is unknown. A while back he posted a message on Facebook that explained why he was doing what he is doing in Syria:

It’s nice and all, but please quit telling me to be safe.

Against my better judgment, I’m posting this on Facebook. Flame away.

People keep telling me to be safe (as if that’s an option), keep asking me why I’m doing this crazy thing, keep asking what’s wrong with me for coming here. So listen.

Our granddads stormed Normandy and Iwo Jima and defeated global fascism. Neil Armstrong flew to the Moon in a glorified trashcan, doing math on a clipboard as he went. Before there were roads, the Pioneers put one foot in front of the other until they walked across the entire continent. Then a bunch of them went down to fight and die in Texas ‘cause they thought it was the right thing to do.

Sometime between when our granddads licked the Nazis and when we started putting warnings on our coffee cups about the temperature of our beverage, America lost that pioneering spirit. We became a fat, weak, complacent, coddled, unambitious and cowardly nation. I went off to two wars with misguided notions of patriotism and found in both that the first priority was to never get killed, something we could have achieved from our living rooms in America with a lot less hassle. To protect careers and please the politicians, we weighed ourselves down with enough armor to break a man’s back, gorged on RipIts and ice cream, and believed our own press that we were doing something noble. Our granddads would have whipped our asses.

We kill ourselves every day with McDonald’s and alcohol and a thousand other drugs, but we’ve lost the sense that there actually are things out there worth dying for. We’ve given away our freedoms piecemeal to robber barons, but we’re too complacent to do much but criticize those few who try to point out the obvious. Americans have lost their sense of vision, mistaking asinine partisan squabbles for principles. When we do venture into space – the part of space we’ve gotten comfortable with, mind you – now we pay the Russians to give us a ride. That’s humiliating. I can’t believe we let that happen.

So that’s why I came here to Syria, and it’s why I like being here now, right now, right in the middle of a brutal and still uncertain civil war. Every person in this country fighting for their freedom wakes up every day and goes to sleep every night with the knowledge that death could visit them at any moment. They accept that reality as the price of freedom. They realize there are things worth fighting for, and instead of sitting around wringing their hands about it, or asking their lawyer to file an injunction about it, they’re out there just doing it. And yeah most of them have little idea what they’re doing when they pick up a rifle, and yes there are many other things I could complain about, but really who cares. They’re alive in a way that almost no Americans today even know how to be. They live with greater passion and dream with greater ambition because they are not afraid of death.

[…]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/austin-tice-its-nice-and-all-but-please-quit-telling-me-to-be-safe/2012/08/23/984488ba-ed4b-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html

Pictures that Austin has uploaded before his disappearance:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/abtice/sets/72157629896151764/

August 24th, 2012, 11:16 pm

 

Visitor said:

72 UAIRr8,

I agree with you that there is a lot of psychological warfare going on. But their methods can be easily identified because they copy from the same text. No matter how fanciful their sources are, and you can easily enumerate those sources to a handful that keep popping up, their methods are so exposed because they keep repeating the same themes. These themes usually fall into one or more of these categories:

1) Idiot is indispensable to the natural order of the universe.
2) The sun will not rise without idiot’s permission.
3) Idiot is winning.
4) Instill desperation.
5) Instill fear.
6) Create doubts.

So, if you keep the above in mind, you will easily identify the objective of any robotic comment. Robots are good only in repetitive tasks and are quite efficient. But they are never creative.

To me, I appreciate getting some confirmations from the field about our heroes’ successes. But, I do not need any confirmations about the failures of the regime. Here’s why.

The moment they started using artillery, they failed.

The moment they started using tanks, they failed.

The moment they started using aircraft, they failed.

The moment they started using missiles, they failed.

The moment they started using the army, they failed.

They did all of the above, so they failed.

There is one and only one outcome left. OUR FSA HEROES WILL PREVAIL.

August 24th, 2012, 11:26 pm

 

Son of Damascus said:

A good article in Al-Hayat:

ماذا يبقى من سورية؟
غسان شربل

ماذا يبقى من سورية حين يتكرس شغور مقعدها في الجامعة العربية ويعتاد العرب على غيابها؟ وحين تعلق عضويتها في منظمة المؤتمر الاسلامي ولا تنجح مشاركة الرئيس محمود احمدي نجاد في تجنيبها هذا القرار؟ وحين تحاصرها الجمعية العامة للامم المتحدة بـ 133 صوتاً وتطالبها ببدء انتقال سياسي للخروج من محنتها؟
ماذا يبقى من سورية حين يغادرها خالد مشعل يائساً من قدرته على اقناع سلطاتها بأن الحل سياسي وليس امنياً وان ما يجري ثورة وليس ارتكابات عصابات مسلحة؟ وحين يخسر محور الممانعة الضلع السني الوحيد الذي كان يوصله الى قلب غزة وقلب النزاع الفلسطيني – الاسرائيلي؟.
ماذا يبقى من سورية حين يجرؤ جهاز امني لبناني على اعتقال الوزير السابق ميشال سماحة بعد ضبطه متلبساً بنقل عبوات ناسفة؟ وحين تتداول وسائل الاعلام اللبنانية معلومات عن ان سماحة تسلم البضاعة من ارفع مسؤول امني سوري؟ وحين يعلن الرئيس ميشال سليمان انه ينتظر اتصالاً من نظيره السوري؟ وحين يضطر العماد ميشال عون الى الصمت المعجون بالندم لأن سماحة كان منسق علاقته مع دمشق وجذور مار مارون وتحالف الاقليات؟
ماذا يبقى من سورية حين تنهال دبابات الجيش على احياء في دمشق التي كانت اكثر عواصم المنطقة امناً واستقراراً؟ وحين تلتهم المدافع ما تبقى من جدران متفحمة في حمص؟ وحين تنقض الطائرات لتدمي حلب او لتشطب قرية من هنا واخرى من هناك؟
ماذا يبقى من سورية حين يتكدس ابناؤها لاجئين في مخيمات في الاردن؟ وينتظرون الحصص الغذائية في خيام في
تركيا؟ او يقيمون في شمال لبنان وبقاعه وعاصمته موزعين بين الحزن والخوف لأسباب كثيرة؟

[…]

http://alhayat.com/OpinionsDetails/428439

August 24th, 2012, 11:38 pm

 

zoo said:

Tara

If there is no charge against Arwa Nairabiya, he should be released but frankly with the current insecurity, his life in Syria is in danger as justice is now in the hands of anyone who carries a gun.
He better leave to safety as many did.

August 24th, 2012, 11:44 pm

 

zoo said:

#88 SOD

“They’re alive in a way that almost no Americans today even know how to be.
They live with greater passion and dream with greater ambition because they are not afraid of death.”

It’s ironical to hear and American describing his “non-life” in the USA, the land of “democracy”, “justice” and “freedom”.
It seems his ‘life’ is meaningful only in danger and closeness to death.
I have not seen any US newspaper reporting his articles until he became famous by disappearing.

August 24th, 2012, 11:53 pm

 

zoo said:

79. Tara

Depressing. There is nothing glorious in these photos.

August 24th, 2012, 11:57 pm

 

zoo said:

66. Uzair8

I am not saying anything. I am quoting medias such a AFP, NY Times. Hurriyet, BBC and I avoid openly biased media such as Al Arabya, Al Jazeera, yallasouria and most Arab medias.
If the FSA occcupies 80% of Aleppo, how happen that the foreign reporters do not agree? Someone is lying. I don’t see why the western media would lie, but I see very well why the desperate FSA would.
Just a reminder:

706. VISITOR said:

News reports about the fall of Salahedin by SANA, Dunya and other menhebek outlets are completsely false. Eyewitness reporters in Aleppo confirm Salahedin is still under the full control of the FSA.

The FSA succeeded once again in repelling the attack of the band of thugs of the Nazi-like criminals occupying Damascus.

FSA General Abd-alJabbar al-3Akidi confirms the full control of the FSA of Salahedin. A fighter Jet was also downed and several tanks destroyed, prompting the thugs of the Nazi-like regime to flee for their lives,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/510c583d-d650-4123-a93e-c82ea3ab75d9?GoogleStatID=1

August 25th, 2012, 12:08 am

 

VISITOR said:

66 UZAIR8,

Your embedded video speaks for itself. It does not need such fancy names as AFP, NY Times, Hurriyet, BBC or such acronyms to testify for its authenticity. I noticed that you do not speak Arabic. So I will let you in on a secret to understand the mentality of some Arabic speakers. We have a popular colloquial in most Arabic speaking countries which goes like this كل شي فرنجي برنجي. Actually it is half Arabic half Turkish. It simply means that anything that comes from the Franks (the Franks here stands for anything western) is excellent. It reflects a deep inferiority complex particularly among nouveau riche who are seeking some social recognition status. Our zoo dweller is clearly one of them and hence he believes that his Franji reporters are the only ones to trust.

In fact, it has been proven time and again that al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya are the most trusworthy news outlets when it comes to Arab affairs. They have reporters in the field who follow the news on the spot and often pay with their own lives, unlike many outlets the the zoo dweller quotes who are often armchair cut and paste analysts.

Mind you I have no problem with the west or western news media and I lived in the west all my life. But I suffer no inferiority complex as our zoo dweller nouveaux climber to social recognition.

August 25th, 2012, 12:22 am

 

zoo said:

Slap to Hollande and Erdogan: US says no to no-fly zone

Turkey and US finalize plans, awaiting decision

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-and-us-finalize-plans-awaiting-decision.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28570&NewsCatID=359

As Turkish and American delegations conclude talks on contingency plans on Syria, including security zone scenarios and transition to a post-al-Assad Syria, sources say political decisions will be given by governments

Turkey’s plan to host Syrians within the Syrian border was also discussed, but as the plan envisages the engagement of military elements, the U.S. does not see it as implementable at this stage. Instead, Washington prefers a more coordinated relief effort to extend aid to refugees inside Syria.

August 25th, 2012, 12:40 am

 

zoo said:

‘The moral argument can only be a part of foreign policy and not the essence of it,

AKP’s moral-based policies on Syria not working, scholar says

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/akps-moral-based-policies-on-syria-not-working-scholar-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28548&NewsCatID=338

Turkey’s government has been unable to explain to the public what the country’s national interest is in its policy toward Syria, leading it to insufficiently justify its actions based on morality, according to scholar Soli Özel. ‘The moral argument can only be a part of foreign policy and not the essence of it,’ he says
Foreign policy is not a morality play, Özel said of the government’s claim that it is acting morally when addressing criticisms of its Syrian policy.

“Blaming the critics for being amoral is immoral,” Özel told the Daily News in a recent interview.

August 25th, 2012, 12:47 am

 

zoo said:

When Assad falls, Kurds in Syria say they’ll take back lands given to Arabs

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/08/23/163322/when-assad-falls-kurds-in-syria.html#storylink=cpy

August 25th, 2012, 12:51 am

 

Syau said:

It’s nice to know Tara’s ‘heroes’ are foreign mercenaries affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?

August 25th, 2012, 1:40 am

 

VISITOR said:

No-fly zone over Syria is on the table

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-fly-zone-over-syria-is-on-the-table.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28578&NewsCatID=409

————————————

“Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?”

OOOOOOOOOOOOOh TARA, if I were you I would be sleepless.

August 25th, 2012, 2:15 am

 

Visitor said:

Field commander of 7th brigade General Muhammad al-Khayrat defects and arrives in Jordan,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/25/234093.html

This is the second highest ranking defection.

Report also indicates that thugs nazi criminals parading as national army razed the town of Hrak in the south to the ground.

August 25th, 2012, 3:12 am

 

Badr said:

IMHO, western leaders are reluctant to arm the FSA, because they think “the risks associated with it are high and the benefits are not easily quantifiable in view of the inevitable unforeseen consequences.”

August 25th, 2012, 4:07 am

 
 

Uzair8 said:

Rebel Calls For Military Aid In Syria Grow
Friday 24 August 2012

[…]

Mr Assad’s armed forces have hardly distinguished themselves against lightly-armed, mostly untrained rebels.

Intelligence sources say that “significant numbers” of the 220,000 regular soldiers are “sitting in their barracks trying to stay out of the civil war”.

Military intervention by foreigners would rally them to a nationalist cause and boost Bashar al Assad.

[…]

“The major challenge that stops the US and the West from intervening in Syria is the fear that military intervention in Syria would turn the Syrian conflict into a region-wide conflict.

“That Iran and Hezbollah would most likely intervene to support the Syrian president Assad,” said Fawaz Gerges.

He added that one of the major mistakes made by the Syrian opposition “is to gamble on a Libyan like scenario with Nato and the Western powers intervening and offering the Syrian opposition Syria on a silver platter”.

Read more:

http://news.sky.com/story/976374/rebel-calls-for-military-aid-in-syria-grow

August 25th, 2012, 6:13 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Btw I was watching Sky News on television yesterday and Sky had two of their top journalists in Syria. Presenter Jeremy Thompson was reporting from Damascus. Tim Marshall was also in Syria, I think in another part of Damascus.

August 25th, 2012, 6:17 am

 

zoo said:

Visitor

Update: The US says NO to no-fly zone again

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=15866&cp=2#comment-325549

August 25th, 2012, 9:01 am

 

zoo said:

More than they can chew
Following an audacious offensive, the rebels are struggling to survive the regime’s counterattack

Aug 25th 2012 | ANTAKYA AND IDLEB |
http://www.economist.com/node/21560919

A MONTH after rebel forces launched a blazing attempt to capture Aleppo, Syria’s second city, they are starting to wilt. The regime claims to have routed them from their main stronghold in the Salaheddin district. Clashes continue in the southwest of the city and around the airport, but the best that rebel commanders can now hope to achieve is to draw the regime into a quagmire.

Part of the problem is that the rebels are failing to win hearts and minds among the urban middle class in Aleppo. The same was true of the failed attempt to take the capital, Damascus, in July.

Most Aleppans cannot stomach the regime, whose brutality has left some 20,000 dead. But they find the rebels’ tactics off-putting too, including summary executions such as that of Zaino Berri, head of a pro-regime militia. Some rebel groups have sent captives in booby-trapped cars to blow up checkpoints.

Meanwhile, the political opposition is as divided as ever. Much to its dismay, America’s secretary of state, Hillary Clinton snubbed the Syrian National Council, a group of exiles, during her recent visit to Turkey. The group is “on the verge of irrelevance”, says a Western diplomat.

Competition for resources and personal feuds have already led some groups to fall out. The two main rebel forces in the Homs area, the Khaled Ibn Walid Brigade and Farouq, both work out of the rebellious town of Rastan, but their leaders are at loggerheads.

Some groups like Tawhid claim to work under the Free Syrian Army, whose secular figureheads are based in Turkey. But this is more of a brand than an organisation. Others choose to distance themselves. One of Idleb’s largest groups, Saquor al-Sham, churns out mini-documentaries, each starting with its logo morphing into a falcon as thunder crackles in the background.

These films are used to attract funding, which comes mainly from wealthy Syrians abroad and Gulf traders. Because the West will not arm and defend the opposition, weapons must often be bought with cash. So far at least there is no sign of its running out.

August 25th, 2012, 9:12 am

 

Observer said:

I noticed this post addressed to TARA

It’s nice to know Tara’s ‘heroes’ are foreign mercenaries affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?

This is the epitome of the mentality of the security house of cards built by the great mafiosi Hafez Corleone over forty years ago. This person has no clue about what freedom of expression freedom of thought freedom of association freedom of belief means.
For the very fact that TARA finds in the pictures of the FSA members reason to be proud is considered a security risk. This is the ultimate Shabih having imported the East German/Nazi fear tactics whereby people are afraid of even thinking or feeling anything that might get them in trouble. His attempt at instilling fear in TARA is typical of the mentality of this regime.

Based on this simple yet very revealing example as I see it the conclusion I come to is that the REGIME NEEDS TO BE UPROOTED FULLY AND COMPLETELY.

I address this post to TARA but also to Majbali and ZOO and SNK and Ghufran and all the apologists of this regime.

August 25th, 2012, 9:13 am

 

Citizen said:

Tarpley: Turkish Alliance with British and US (Against Syria) Is a Lethal Embrace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU61Oe_Aoo&feature=player_embedded
Tarpley on PressTV 2012-08-24 – After the fall of Egypt, the Turkish leadership was conned into the idea of New Ottoman Empire, which will precipitate dozens and dozens of serious problems: most notably from the Kurds.
Seymore Hersch says the CIA uses the PKK against Iran.
The Turkish alliance with British and US is a lethal embrace. Anglo Americans will love them to death. They will play Turkey against Syria to their mutual destruction.

Syrian armed forces are succeeding against rebels in Syria (quelling rebellion). The center of gravity may shift fo Saudi Arabia and Qutar for actual, authentic, revolution.

The Turks have turned southern region entirely over to the CIA, inviting in many terrorist elements. A thorough political cleaning of the US leadership is necessary. Neither Obama nor Romney will curtial US imperialist adventures.

August 25th, 2012, 9:16 am

 

Citizen said:

Russia Alarmed Over U.S.-Turkish “Operational Meeting” On Syria
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_08_24/Moscow-alarmed-as-Turkey-and-West-hold-Operational-Meeting-on-Syria/
Syria’s claims that the uprising on its sovereign territory is being orchestrated from outside the country were given further credibility, by an eight-hour-operational-meeting held in Ankara behind closed doors between US Ambassador to Turkey Elisabeth Jones, Turkish Foreign Ministry Deputy Under-Secretary Halit Cevik, diplomats, military representatives and intelligence agency representatives.

August 25th, 2012, 9:18 am

 

Visitor said:

# 106,

When are you going to grow up and at least read what you link or allow others to read and decide for themselves?

No where in that report says what you say.

Is this your technique of spreading propaganda?

On the contrary the same issue, the same media spells out the exact opposite of your cheap propaganda

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-fly-zone-over-syria-is-on-the-table.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28578&NewsCatID=409

August 25th, 2012, 9:18 am

 

mjabali said:

Visitor said:

“Over 40% of Tehran and Iran are Sunnis, yet not a single Mosque for Sunnis.

Why do Arab countries allow so-called Shia latmiyya dens?”

He also said:

“Today’s Tripoli problem was implanted by idiot senior who planted 30000 Alawis in a city where they do not belong..”

First: Iran is 90% Shia. the 40 percent of Sunnis in Iran happened in your dreams. As for how many mosques they have allowed for Sunnis, I have no clue and I say may be that is good since most mosques in the world today are not doing well for their clients: Sunnis or Shia. Mosques failed miserably and the evident is the status of Muslims in the world. They are not in a good place. Shia and Sunnis should close their mosques or transform it to cultural centers, or put treadmills to the high class of believers.

As for you calling the Shia mosques “Latmiyah dens”, I could tell that you went to the school of Wahabism with a long list of bright teachers like: 3ar3ur, 7awini, 3arifi, 3ar3ur (for the treadmill and spinning classes), 7awini for the class about relations with women, and Ibn 3uthaymin for philosophy, 3arifi teaches social media….

About Tripolli/Lebanon, which has been the capital of Salfisim in the Levant for the last 50 years at least, mr. Visitor, if you go and look at the Sunnis in that area you would see that most of them are the product of your grandparents the Ottomans. The Alawis are from that area and there was way more of them but the Ottomans and Co killed thousands upon thousands of them.

The Alawis were the rulers of Tripolli on many occasions even before your Ottomans set a foot in the area. What happened to those Alawis?

Trippolli is an important Christian town first of all: what happened to those, or you want me to remind you what Qalawuun did to them?

August 25th, 2012, 9:20 am

 

Tara said:

It is very much etched in the Sunni faith that justice is served during one’s life time.   With the heavy toll on the children inflicted by Assad phalanges, isn’t Asmaa afraid for her own? 
——

The Child Victims Of Syria’s Civil War
Sky’s special correspondent Alex Crawford witnesses the human cost of the conflict at a hospital in Aleppo

She witnessed a boy being rushed in after shrapnel sliced through his lower chest, missing his lung by inches.

As he arrived at the hospital, he pleaded: “I am dying, I am dying, please can I have some water.”

A father of another child also receiving treatment at the hospital said: “Bashar al Assad promised us reforms and all we are getting is killing. He is killing our children by the hundreds.”

Doctors and nurses – all volunteers – are working in two rooms on the lower floor after jets bombed the upper levels.
….
Dr Abu Samir, who qualified just two years ago and is virtually running the hospital, said: “I feel pain inside in myself… More than 20 children a day come to the hospital.”

Crawford said hospital staff were so overwhelmed that “dead children were being laid outside”.

http://news.sky.com/story/976904/the-child-victims-of-syrias-civil-war   

August 25th, 2012, 9:23 am

 

Citizen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgu_BFbmHoE
Syrian opposition admits British intelligence is assisting terrorist FSA along with U.S., Germany and Turkey
http://endthelie.com/2012/08/19/syrian-opposition-admits-british-intelligence-is-assisting-terrorist-fsa-along-with-u-s-germany-and-turkey/#axzz24TFtWAGx

It is no longer by any means secret that the Syrian opposition terrorist group known as the Free Syrian Army (FSA) is being supported by the governments of the United States, Turkey, Germany and Britain.

Recently, the United States government made it completely legal to donate money to the Syrian opposition. While you can’t go out and buy an AK-47 and mail it to the FSA, you can instead send the same terrorists the money to buy it.

Keep in mind, these are the same individuals who have shown no willingness to give up the chemical weapons belonging to the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if they get their hands on them.

One might also want to take note of the fact that there have been multiple reports claiming that the Syrian military captured military officers from foreign nations and that even mainstream international news sources are now being forced to report the truth about Syria as you can see in the below video:

Now news agencies as large as the United Kingdom’s Sky News and Daily Mail along with the Australian Herald Sun are reporting on the fact that these opposition terrorists are receiving assistance from Western intelligence including the location and movements of regime troops along with their communications.

According to reports, both British and German spies are working to pass on critical information to the Syrian rebels and it appears that these intelligence agencies have absolutely no qualms about what they are doing.

“We can be proud of the significant contribution we are making to the fall of the Assad regime,” an official from Germany’s BND foreign intelligence service told Bild am Sonntag, according to the Herald Sun.

According to the German news outlet, German spies have been stationed both off the Syrian coast and at a NATO base in Turkey while the British Sunday Times stated that British intelligence was passing on information gathered from listening posts in Cyprus.

The reports state that the intelligence is passed through Turkey to the FSA which is hardly surprising given the fact that there have been reports in the past of cross-border incursions from Turkey into Syria.

“British intelligence is observing things closely from Cyprus,” an opposition official said to the Sunday Times, according to Sky News.

“It’s very useful because they find out a great deal,” continued the unnamed official. “The British are giving the information to the Turks and the Americans and we are getting it from the Turks.”

The mention of Americans is critical because recent reports have stated that the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been working to funnel weapons to the armed Syrian opposition.

“The British monitor communications about movements of the government army and we got information about reinforcements being on their way to Aleppo,” the official stated.

“We hit at the government troops in Idlib and Saraqib (southwest of Aleppo), with success,” said the official.

Now the Washington Post is reporting fighting in and around Aleppo with heavy clashes in Salahuddin, Ansari, Sabbagh, Sukkari, Sakhour and Hanano.

It appears that the British are attempting to maintain plausible deniability and remove themselves from being associated with directly putting guns in the hands of the Syrian rebels.

“One diplomat denied that the British were ‘facilitating’ the supply of heavy machineguns. But he said he could not rule out the possibility that private contractors financed by countries such as Qatar were involved in providing arms,” according to the Daily Mail.

“Wealthy families in Qatar and Saudi Arabia are understood to be providing substantial financial support to the rebel forces,” they added./../..

August 25th, 2012, 9:23 am

 

Observer said:

This is from RT in arabic

It talks about the fact that the Russian fleet is a pygmy compared to what NATO has in the East Mediterrenian

It talks about losing Tartous

This is your ally declaring retreat

Read to the end

http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/analytics/69036/

August 25th, 2012, 9:25 am

 

mjabali said:

Observer:

First of all you are giving us a lecture about freedom of speech and still you are labeling us altogether by the word “apologists.”

Please indicate for me when did I “apologized” for al-Assads: father and son?

Respect my freedom of speech. If you want to label me I advise you to look for a better one.

You, and many on this form did not respect my freedom of opinion. I could like whatever and take whatever side I want. This is my personal choice.

And to answer your question: Yes this regime should had been gone a long time ago.

Now: would you have the courtesy and let us know why you are found of labeling people: and what is the difference between you and Hafez al-Assad for example in this regard?

August 25th, 2012, 9:26 am

 

Son of Damascus said:

Zoo,

“It’s ironical to hear and American describing his “non-life” in the USA, the land of “democracy”, “justice” and “freedom”.
It seems his ‘life’ is meaningful only in danger and closeness to death.
I have not seen any US newspaper reporting his articles until he became famous by disappearing.”

I would suggest you reread what Austin wrote but before that take off your blinders, you might understand what he wrote.

Btw he has contributed many times to the Washington Post and is McClatchy contributor as well. Maybe it is time to look at ‘other’ news that might not follow your rigid sources that are not “openly bias”.

Since when are Voltaire, Xinhua, PressTv anything other than openly bias?

__________

Personally I find it rather pathetic when minhebaks keep attacking the victims, and it is these same callous people that call for “dialogue”. Whatever the hell that means in their sick and twisted world where a documentary film maker is not just an artist, a cartoonist deserves his hands to be broken, and a citizen journalist deserves to rot in Bashar’s dungeons, I doubt their call for “dialogue” mean anything other than to preserve the status quo and keep Bashar and his bloody cronies in power.

August 25th, 2012, 9:28 am

 

zoo said:

#111 Visitor

Do you understand english?

“Turkey’s plan to host Syrians within the Syrian border was also discussed, but as the plan envisages the engagement of military elements, the U.S. does not see it as implementable at this stage. Instead, Washington prefers a more coordinated relief effort to extend aid to refugees inside Syria.”

August 25th, 2012, 9:29 am

 

Tara said:

Observer,

Exactly. It is astonishing though that an attempt to instill fear is coming from an educated Alawi. But just thinking about Sayu, he is so immersed in personality cult and Assad worshiping that his education is not serving him well.

Sayu,

Do you really think that your attempt to intimidate me has a 1 per mil chance of being successful ? There is an office for FSA in D.C. The US approved donating money to their cause. The US is providing them with non-lethal communication equipment. If you are interested, I can provide you with contact number to donate money. Don’t be cheap. I do not like cheap men.

August 25th, 2012, 9:33 am

 

zoo said:

#117 SOD

Please point me to a recent article written by this journalist.

From what he says in this piece, the guy sounds to me mentally scarred by his period in the marines: Lauding death.
No one deserved to be beaten or tortured in both sides of the fence.

Wars have always witnessed excesses, remember only recently the waterboarding and Abu Ghraib from the “law abiding” USA.
It is not an excuse, it is a sad human reality.

August 25th, 2012, 9:38 am

 

zoo said:

Visitor

40% Sunnis In Iran??? They are 9% and mostly Kurds.

Maybe you could check before following your wild imagination, or you heard that on Al Jazeera or Al Arabua again?.

“Most Iranians are Muslims. Around 89% belong to Shi’a branch of Islam, the official state religion, and about 9% belong to the Sunni branch of Islam. The remaining 2% are non-Muslim religious minorities, including Bahá’ís, Mandeans, Hindus, Yarsanis, Zoroastrians, Jews, and Christians.

About 9%[1] of the Iranian population are Sunni Muslims – mostly Kurds in the northwest “,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran

August 25th, 2012, 9:46 am

 

Visitor said:

# 118,

It looks to me that it is you who does not understand English or may be deliberately does not want to.

August 25th, 2012, 9:49 am

 

Visitor said:

115 OBSERVER,

RT has different staff for different audiences. The Arabic link you provided is obviously more realistic and explains very well the failure of Russia’s policies.

The English U-Tube link in 109 is obviously addressed to the US public and the Turkish public in order to create confusion and doubts.

It was clear in that video that the only one who made sense was the Turkish analyst who was purposely cut off by the RT presenter for lack of time when the Turkish guest asked for only one sentence to complete his presentation and it took the presenter almost a minute to explain why he cannot give him more time. Instead he preferred to give time to the Americans who were saying well known worn out propaganda that you can easily find on many leftist websites.

The Turkish mr.. Baksh was explaining logically the failure of so-called Zero problem policy and the need for it to be replaced by a more robust Rurkish involvement based on realism. The RT presenter did not like this type of presentation.

August 25th, 2012, 10:07 am

 

Visitor said:

# 121,

The figures that you quote from wiki are official government figures and are inaccurate. It is a well known fact that Shia sources always inflate their figures in order to compensate for the lack of human capital. It is part of their posturing mentality and a means to overcome a deep seated inferiority complex. Cheap but it works on some audiences that are uninterested or uninformed.

The real figures are closer to what I quoted.

August 25th, 2012, 10:19 am

 

zoo said:

SOD

I read some articles from Austin Tice, 31.
“Tice was no stranger to war zones, having led Marines during combat tours in Afghanistan and Iraq and rising to the rank of captain”
He sounds to me like a young man finding personal excitement in living dangerous experiences. His description of the fights are just like a war movie script, vivid and well written.

The episode where he dressed with a nikab and an abaya to get into Damascus and run in the streets of Damascus is a good example of his narrative and suspenseful talent. He is obviously getting his kick out of the exciting experience of being in a war and writing about it.
Having been in the US Navy for 6 years, he is more suspicious than other journalists of being part of the CIA. Therefore, if he has been caught, he is certainly in deep trouble.

Let’s hope that the end of the movie will not be his end. If he makes it, he’ll have a career as a novel writer or a screenplay writer.

August 25th, 2012, 10:21 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo@125

I don’t like it when trying to degrade journalists sacrificing themselves to reveal the truth by describing them as thrill- seekers who are getting a kick out of being in the heart of danger. It is like robbing them from their heroism. Would you have said the same thing if he was trying to uncover Christian plot in Iraq?

I invite you to reconsider.

August 25th, 2012, 10:35 am

 

zoo said:

124. Visitor

Please provide the source of you ‘accurate’ information.

This figure is from the CIA. Check the document page 38

Iran’s Religious Composition
Shi’a Muslim
89%
Sunni Muslim
9%
SOURCE: CIA, 2007.
NOTE: These figures are consistent with data from more-detailed studies of Iranian
ethnography; see Shaffer, 2002, pp. 221–225.
Zoroastrian, Christian, Jewish, and Baha’i
2%

The RAND Corporation is a nonprofit research organization providing objective analysis and effective solutions that address the challenges facing the public and private sectors around the world
http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2008/RAND_MG693.pdf

August 25th, 2012, 10:36 am

 

Ghufran said:

نقلت معلومات صحافية عن دبلوماسي دولي رفيع في نيويورك أنّ “مبعوث الأمم المتحدة الجديد إلى سوريا الأخضر الإبراهيمي سيطرح رؤيته للمرحلة الانتقالية في سوريا في أثناء الاجتماع المقرّر لمجلس الأمن على المستوى الوزاري في 30 آب الحالي”.
وأكّد المصدر نفسه أنّ “الخطة التي سيطرحها الإبراهيمي للعملية الانتقالية لا تتضمّن أيّ دور للرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وسيكون للجيش السوري دور مهمّ في المرحلة الانتقالية”، مشيرا إلى أنّ “التململ بلغ مستوى عالياً في صفوف القادة السياسيين والعسكريين والدبلوماسيين في الحكومة السورية، وقد بدأت روسيا والصين تُبديان تفهّماً واقعياً للتطوّرات في سوريا”، حسب تعبيره.
Assad should have resigned in March,2011, his presence today serves one purpose:
Giving anti regime forces an easy target that serves as a magnet that attracts angry and grieving Syrians under a common slogan ارحل
There was not a single person in the regime who had the stature and the courage to ask Assad to resign,any dissent in any form or shape was not acceptable,this is why a regime like the one in Syria is called a dictatorship,what made things worse is Assad’s lack of experience, charisma and wisdom,he was the wrong man for the job from day one,I suspect that his character is what convinced fat cats and corrupt officials to appoint him president.

August 25th, 2012, 10:39 am

 

zoo said:

#126 Tara

There are many kind of journalists. Usually war reporters have that character traits, this is why they go from wars to wars, facing and loving danger, sometimes irrespective of what war and what side they are in.

Of course being part of the rebels is more exciting and dangerous than being in the marines fighting rebels, like Austin Tice did in Afghanistan and Iraq.

While reading some of Austin Tice’s articles, I have unfortunately only seen the spectacular aspect of the war, therefore I got the impression that sharing the cause of the Syrian fighters was not a priority. His personal excitement of being part of a dangerous adventure was his priority and it is natural in view of his young age.

I may be wrong but that’s what I perceived.

Please don’t use the christian/ moslem paranoia. You know well that this is irrelevant for me.

Austin Tice articles
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/search_results?q=AUSTIN+TICE

August 25th, 2012, 11:02 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo

“Please don’t use the christian/ moslem paranoia. You know well that this is irrelevant for me.”

I know well? Big smile… It kills me that I do..let me stop at that.

August 25th, 2012, 11:12 am

 

VISITOR said:

# 127,

All those sources originate from the same source: the government.

So there is no need to list repetitive copy and paste sources.

Shia sources are well known to inflate their figures and deflate others due to lack of followers of their creed, and a deep seated inferiority complex. It is their standard posturing technique to compensate for those deficiencies

It is a cheap technique that often works only on the uniformed and the uninterested.

August 25th, 2012, 11:17 am

 

zoo said:

After the disastrous opposition AL meeting in Cairo in July, another AL meeting planned in Cairo gets almost zero media coverage. No dates set, no list of participants.
It might as well be cancelled as it may show again the irreconciliable divisions of the opposition.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

Friday 24 August 2012 19.35 BST

The Arab League is to host a meeting of the Syrian opposition in Cairo on Saturday in an effort to produce a common programme to unite opponents of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, but the effort has been marred by disunity and a threatened boycott by the Syrian National Council (SNC).

August 25th, 2012, 11:23 am

 

zoo said:

Visitor

France pedals back the no-fly zone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

Friday 24 August 2012 19.35 BST

“Meanwhile, Paris played down reported remarks by the defence minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, which appeared to reflect backing for some form of no-fly zone over part of Syria. Officials said he had been misquoted and any foreign air activity over Syria would be illegal.”

August 25th, 2012, 11:25 am

 

zoo said:

131. VISITOR

If you have no source, then you have no credibility.

August 25th, 2012, 11:27 am

 

Visitor said:

#123

You got that backward. If your source is suspect, and in your case it always is, then you have no credibility.

In any case, you just proved the point that I made to TARA in 22.

You don’t seem to stop responding to me even though I continue to address you as mere number.

August 25th, 2012, 11:52 am

 

Ghufran said:

قالت قناة ” سكاي نيوز ” نقلاً عن مصادر إن اللواء محمد موسى الخيرات، قائد الفرقة السابعة في الجيش السوري انشق و فر إلى الأردن .
و بينت أوساط معارضة أن اللواء المنشق هو من ابناء مدينة الحراك بدرعا، و التي تتعرض لعمليات عسكرية منذ أيام سقط على اثرها العديد من الشهداء  و الجرحى.
يذكر أن الانشقاق هو الأرفع في المؤسسة العسكرية السورية .

August 25th, 2012, 12:05 pm

 

ann said:

Syrian Christians in 2-week blockade by rebel fighters, residents desperate – 25 August, 2012

http://rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-blockade-christians-549/

An estimated 12,000 people have spent two weeks blockaded in the Christian town of Rableh, Syria, near Homs in the south. Experiencing a shortage of food and medical supplies, residents could not leave as rebel snipers were shooting at them.

­The town, close to the border with Lebanon, was liberated by Syrian government forces on Friday, according to Beirut-based Al-Mayadeen satellite channel. These reports are yet to be verified. Sixty militants were reportedly eliminated.

For about two weeks Syrian rebels maintained blockade of the mostly-Christian town, refusing entry to food and medical supplies, according to the Aid to the Church in Need Catholic charity, which tried to deliver supplies to the city.

“We have organized ourselves so we can stand by each other and we are sharing everything so we can survive. We need all the help we can get. Please help us,” a local priest told the Caritas, a Lebanon-based Catholic humanitarian organization, during a phone call from Rableh.

After a two-week blockade the basic necessities were reportedly running out in the town because the bridges around the settlement had been blown up and roads were made impassable.

Snipers were waiting for those who thought about leaving the town in search for food. Those who dared to leave in search for food were shot at. Three men who made attempts to leave the disaster zone were shot dead, informed the charity’s representative Father Waldemar Cislo from Beirut.

There were motorcyclists who made an attempt to carry bread into the village, but they were also shot at, though managing to escape the firing line unhurt.

Electric power supply has also been disrupted in the area as the conflict between the Bashar Assad government’s forces and the rebel militants intensified.

Those Syrians who finally made it to the other side of the border described the situation back home as critical.

“Some people are starting to feel the hunger, children’s milk is running out, [there are] no canned goods, even children’s diapers no longer exist,” they said.

Both Syrian and Lebanon Catholic authorities have also been calling for urgent help to the people in Rableh.

Aid to the Church in Need, previously active in Damascus, Aleppo and Homs (Syria), and Caritas (Lebanon) had formed a small – about 800 kilograms – emergency aid delivery consisting mostly of food, medicine and milk powder, hoping to get it to the town if militants agreed to let it pass, but troops made it to the scene first.

Electric power supply to Rableh has already been restored, reports Al-Mayadeen satellite channel.

The government of President Bashar al-Assad said the country’s capital has been freed from the militants and the mop-up operation in the financial hub of Aleppo is getting close to the end.

[…]

http://rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-blockade-christians-549/

August 25th, 2012, 12:19 pm

 

Visitor said:

Putin knows that after his henchmen in Damascus are swept over to the dustbin of history, Russia’s turn is next, and he is worried that Russia will disintegrate.

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/92521bc7-5be8-4a65-9650-35e4a22581a4?GoogleStatID=1

Well, we knew all along mr. Putin that your Russia is an artificial patchwork of disparate entities. Good riddance. No tears will be shed. And, the world will not lose much.

August 25th, 2012, 12:27 pm

 

ann said:

Powell Warns Against Outside Military Action in Syria – August 25, 2012

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-25/powell-warns-against-outsident-military-action-in-syria

Outside military involvement in Syria is “probably not the solution” to the “civil war” occurring in the country, said former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Powell made the remarks in an interview with CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS” scheduled for broadcast tomorrow.

“It’s not clear to me that the outside world can do much more than lend encouragement to his departure, perhaps provide some limited assistance to the free Syrian forces,” Powell said, according to a CNN transcript.

[…]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-25/powell-warns-against-outsident-military-action-in-syria

August 25th, 2012, 12:44 pm

 
 

zoo said:

#135 Visitor

“If your source is suspect, and in your case it always is, then you have no credibility.”

If you don’t have any source, it means that either you are too lazy to find one, or you are inventing the number, and that would not come as a surprise after all the fabulations you posted.

Addressing me consciously as a number is a sign of arrogance, and that also does not surprise me coming from you.

Overall you are not credible but very predictable.

August 25th, 2012, 1:16 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria media warn of ‘fake email’ saying VP sacked
AFP – 1 hr 21 mins ago

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-media-warn-fake-email-saying-vp-sacked-155957424.html?_esi=1

Syria’s state news agency SANA said on Saturday that a fake email had been sent out in its name claiming that Vice President Faruq al-Shara had been sacked.

August 25th, 2012, 1:23 pm

 

zoo said:

Any guessing who said that?

“This Ramadan began with great blessings on Syria as we pointed out when it came upon us. It will end with even greater blessings and victories for the Syrian people and its glorious and historic revolution, all by the grace of Our God and the heroic achievements of the heroes of the FSA.”

August 25th, 2012, 1:35 pm

 

Observer said:

Majbali I never ever objected to whatever you want to think or to express. You are free to declare any idea and I am even a card carrying member of the ACLU that sued the state of Mississipi when it prevented the KKK from demonstrating.
You can demonstrate and say whatever you want you can even say what many consider politically incorrect statement.
I am heartened that you agree that the regime must go.

Now it is clear that ZOO and ANN are bombarding us with news of the new dictators that we are seeing in the ME or so they tell us. Tunis under Islamists, Libya with the MB, Morsi’s Egypt under the thumb and the fate of Christians and other minorities are now the order of the day in news and views.

For the sake of stability they are in support of; according to them ,an “authoritarian” regime as Reagan used to call his dictators.

As Ben Franklin said those that trade stability for freedom will get neither and they do not deserve freedom.

August 25th, 2012, 1:58 pm

 

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