Syria and the US – by Sami Moubayed – New Book

Sami Moubayed has just come out with a wonderful book about US policy toward Syria. Forced to flee his beloved Damascus, Sami is now a Visiting Scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Beirut. Bravo Sami

Syria and the USA: Washington’s Relations with Damascus from Wilson to Eisenhower

‘Syria and the USA is a well-told and entertaining overview of US-Syria relations from World War I to the formation of the United Arab Republic. Sami Moubayed provides the reader with insight into how Syrians view events that are crucial to their political development. He explains how general Syrian attitudes toward the US government changed from admiration to anger over the first half of the 20th century and explores how US support for Israeli displacement of Arabs in Palestine and military coups in Syria undermined initial attitudes toward Washington. The author’s interest in the history of women and cinema in Syria gives this diplomatic history cultural depth and a welcome new dimension.’ – Joshua Landis

Here is Philip Khoury of MIT:

The history of relations between Syria and the United States up until the 1960s is little known and understood. Sami Moubayed, one of Syria’s leading young historians, now offers us a remarkably comprehensive study that illustrates how a positive start in diplomatic relations in the early part of the 20th century eventually began to unwind in unfortunate ways by mid-century. Using a variety of sources including the US State Department archives and the private paper collections of Syrian political leaders, Moubayed sheds new light on the political intrigue and shenanigans that were so characteristic of the Cold War era. Scholars and foreign policy experts will appreciate the author’s efforts at reconstructing the history of an important chapter in America’s relationship with the Middle East region.’ -

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101. Syau said:

It’s nice to know Tara’s ‘heroes’ are foreign mercenaries affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?

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August 25th, 2012, 1:40 am

 

102. VISITOR said:

No-fly zone over Syria is on the table

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-fly-zone-over-syria-is-on-the-table.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28578&NewsCatID=409

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“Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?”

OOOOOOOOOOOOOh TARA, if I were you I would be sleepless.

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August 25th, 2012, 2:15 am

 

103. Visitor said:

Field commander of 7th brigade General Muhammad al-Khayrat defects and arrives in Jordan,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/25/234093.html

This is the second highest ranking defection.

Report also indicates that thugs nazi criminals parading as national army razed the town of Hrak in the south to the ground.

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August 25th, 2012, 3:12 am

 

104. Badr said:

IMHO, western leaders are reluctant to arm the FSA, because they think “the risks associated with it are high and the benefits are not easily quantifiable in view of the inevitable unforeseen consequences.”

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August 25th, 2012, 4:07 am

 
 

106. Uzair8 said:

Rebel Calls For Military Aid In Syria Grow
Friday 24 August 2012

[...]

Mr Assad’s armed forces have hardly distinguished themselves against lightly-armed, mostly untrained rebels.

Intelligence sources say that “significant numbers” of the 220,000 regular soldiers are “sitting in their barracks trying to stay out of the civil war”.

Military intervention by foreigners would rally them to a nationalist cause and boost Bashar al Assad.

[...]

“The major challenge that stops the US and the West from intervening in Syria is the fear that military intervention in Syria would turn the Syrian conflict into a region-wide conflict.

“That Iran and Hezbollah would most likely intervene to support the Syrian president Assad,” said Fawaz Gerges.

He added that one of the major mistakes made by the Syrian opposition “is to gamble on a Libyan like scenario with Nato and the Western powers intervening and offering the Syrian opposition Syria on a silver platter”.

Read more:

http://news.sky.com/story/976374/rebel-calls-for-military-aid-in-syria-grow

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August 25th, 2012, 6:13 am

 

107. Uzair8 said:

Btw I was watching Sky News on television yesterday and Sky had two of their top journalists in Syria. Presenter Jeremy Thompson was reporting from Damascus. Tim Marshall was also in Syria, I think in another part of Damascus.

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August 25th, 2012, 6:17 am

 

108. zoo said:

Visitor

Update: The US says NO to no-fly zone again

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=15866&cp=2#comment-325549

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August 25th, 2012, 9:01 am

 

109. zoo said:

More than they can chew
Following an audacious offensive, the rebels are struggling to survive the regime’s counterattack

Aug 25th 2012 | ANTAKYA AND IDLEB |
http://www.economist.com/node/21560919

A MONTH after rebel forces launched a blazing attempt to capture Aleppo, Syria’s second city, they are starting to wilt. The regime claims to have routed them from their main stronghold in the Salaheddin district. Clashes continue in the southwest of the city and around the airport, but the best that rebel commanders can now hope to achieve is to draw the regime into a quagmire.

Part of the problem is that the rebels are failing to win hearts and minds among the urban middle class in Aleppo. The same was true of the failed attempt to take the capital, Damascus, in July.

Most Aleppans cannot stomach the regime, whose brutality has left some 20,000 dead. But they find the rebels’ tactics off-putting too, including summary executions such as that of Zaino Berri, head of a pro-regime militia. Some rebel groups have sent captives in booby-trapped cars to blow up checkpoints.

Meanwhile, the political opposition is as divided as ever. Much to its dismay, America’s secretary of state, Hillary Clinton snubbed the Syrian National Council, a group of exiles, during her recent visit to Turkey. The group is “on the verge of irrelevance”, says a Western diplomat.

Competition for resources and personal feuds have already led some groups to fall out. The two main rebel forces in the Homs area, the Khaled Ibn Walid Brigade and Farouq, both work out of the rebellious town of Rastan, but their leaders are at loggerheads.

Some groups like Tawhid claim to work under the Free Syrian Army, whose secular figureheads are based in Turkey. But this is more of a brand than an organisation. Others choose to distance themselves. One of Idleb’s largest groups, Saquor al-Sham, churns out mini-documentaries, each starting with its logo morphing into a falcon as thunder crackles in the background.

These films are used to attract funding, which comes mainly from wealthy Syrians abroad and Gulf traders. Because the West will not arm and defend the opposition, weapons must often be bought with cash. So far at least there is no sign of its running out.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:12 am

 

110. Observer said:

I noticed this post addressed to TARA

It’s nice to know Tara’s ‘heroes’ are foreign mercenaries affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Does US national security know you look up to terrorists?

This is the epitome of the mentality of the security house of cards built by the great mafiosi Hafez Corleone over forty years ago. This person has no clue about what freedom of expression freedom of thought freedom of association freedom of belief means.
For the very fact that TARA finds in the pictures of the FSA members reason to be proud is considered a security risk. This is the ultimate Shabih having imported the East German/Nazi fear tactics whereby people are afraid of even thinking or feeling anything that might get them in trouble. His attempt at instilling fear in TARA is typical of the mentality of this regime.

Based on this simple yet very revealing example as I see it the conclusion I come to is that the REGIME NEEDS TO BE UPROOTED FULLY AND COMPLETELY.

I address this post to TARA but also to Majbali and ZOO and SNK and Ghufran and all the apologists of this regime.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:13 am

 

111. Citizen said:

Tarpley: Turkish Alliance with British and US (Against Syria) Is a Lethal Embrace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU61Oe_Aoo&feature=player_embedded
Tarpley on PressTV 2012-08-24 – After the fall of Egypt, the Turkish leadership was conned into the idea of New Ottoman Empire, which will precipitate dozens and dozens of serious problems: most notably from the Kurds.
Seymore Hersch says the CIA uses the PKK against Iran.
The Turkish alliance with British and US is a lethal embrace. Anglo Americans will love them to death. They will play Turkey against Syria to their mutual destruction.

Syrian armed forces are succeeding against rebels in Syria (quelling rebellion). The center of gravity may shift fo Saudi Arabia and Qutar for actual, authentic, revolution.

The Turks have turned southern region entirely over to the CIA, inviting in many terrorist elements. A thorough political cleaning of the US leadership is necessary. Neither Obama nor Romney will curtial US imperialist adventures.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:16 am

 

112. Citizen said:

Russia Alarmed Over U.S.-Turkish “Operational Meeting” On Syria
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_08_24/Moscow-alarmed-as-Turkey-and-West-hold-Operational-Meeting-on-Syria/
Syria’s claims that the uprising on its sovereign territory is being orchestrated from outside the country were given further credibility, by an eight-hour-operational-meeting held in Ankara behind closed doors between US Ambassador to Turkey Elisabeth Jones, Turkish Foreign Ministry Deputy Under-Secretary Halit Cevik, diplomats, military representatives and intelligence agency representatives.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:18 am

 

113. Visitor said:

# 106,

When are you going to grow up and at least read what you link or allow others to read and decide for themselves?

No where in that report says what you say.

Is this your technique of spreading propaganda?

On the contrary the same issue, the same media spells out the exact opposite of your cheap propaganda

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-fly-zone-over-syria-is-on-the-table.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28578&NewsCatID=409

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August 25th, 2012, 9:18 am

 

114. mjabali said:

Visitor said:

“Over 40% of Tehran and Iran are Sunnis, yet not a single Mosque for Sunnis.

Why do Arab countries allow so-called Shia latmiyya dens?”

He also said:

“Today’s Tripoli problem was implanted by idiot senior who planted 30000 Alawis in a city where they do not belong..”

First: Iran is 90% Shia. the 40 percent of Sunnis in Iran happened in your dreams. As for how many mosques they have allowed for Sunnis, I have no clue and I say may be that is good since most mosques in the world today are not doing well for their clients: Sunnis or Shia. Mosques failed miserably and the evident is the status of Muslims in the world. They are not in a good place. Shia and Sunnis should close their mosques or transform it to cultural centers, or put treadmills to the high class of believers.

As for you calling the Shia mosques “Latmiyah dens”, I could tell that you went to the school of Wahabism with a long list of bright teachers like: 3ar3ur, 7awini, 3arifi, 3ar3ur (for the treadmill and spinning classes), 7awini for the class about relations with women, and Ibn 3uthaymin for philosophy, 3arifi teaches social media….

About Tripolli/Lebanon, which has been the capital of Salfisim in the Levant for the last 50 years at least, mr. Visitor, if you go and look at the Sunnis in that area you would see that most of them are the product of your grandparents the Ottomans. The Alawis are from that area and there was way more of them but the Ottomans and Co killed thousands upon thousands of them.

The Alawis were the rulers of Tripolli on many occasions even before your Ottomans set a foot in the area. What happened to those Alawis?

Trippolli is an important Christian town first of all: what happened to those, or you want me to remind you what Qalawuun did to them?

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August 25th, 2012, 9:20 am

 

115. Tara said:

It is very much etched in the Sunni faith that justice is served during one’s life time.   With the heavy toll on the children inflicted by Assad phalanges, isn’t Asmaa afraid for her own? 
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The Child Victims Of Syria’s Civil War
Sky’s special correspondent Alex Crawford witnesses the human cost of the conflict at a hospital in Aleppo

She witnessed a boy being rushed in after shrapnel sliced through his lower chest, missing his lung by inches.

As he arrived at the hospital, he pleaded: “I am dying, I am dying, please can I have some water.”

A father of another child also receiving treatment at the hospital said: “Bashar al Assad promised us reforms and all we are getting is killing. He is killing our children by the hundreds.”

Doctors and nurses – all volunteers – are working in two rooms on the lower floor after jets bombed the upper levels.
….
Dr Abu Samir, who qualified just two years ago and is virtually running the hospital, said: “I feel pain inside in myself… More than 20 children a day come to the hospital.”

Crawford said hospital staff were so overwhelmed that “dead children were being laid outside”.

http://news.sky.com/story/976904/the-child-victims-of-syrias-civil-war   

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August 25th, 2012, 9:23 am

 

116. Citizen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgu_BFbmHoE
Syrian opposition admits British intelligence is assisting terrorist FSA along with U.S., Germany and Turkey
http://endthelie.com/2012/08/19/syrian-opposition-admits-british-intelligence-is-assisting-terrorist-fsa-along-with-u-s-germany-and-turkey/#axzz24TFtWAGx

It is no longer by any means secret that the Syrian opposition terrorist group known as the Free Syrian Army (FSA) is being supported by the governments of the United States, Turkey, Germany and Britain.

Recently, the United States government made it completely legal to donate money to the Syrian opposition. While you can’t go out and buy an AK-47 and mail it to the FSA, you can instead send the same terrorists the money to buy it.

Keep in mind, these are the same individuals who have shown no willingness to give up the chemical weapons belonging to the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if they get their hands on them.

One might also want to take note of the fact that there have been multiple reports claiming that the Syrian military captured military officers from foreign nations and that even mainstream international news sources are now being forced to report the truth about Syria as you can see in the below video:

Now news agencies as large as the United Kingdom’s Sky News and Daily Mail along with the Australian Herald Sun are reporting on the fact that these opposition terrorists are receiving assistance from Western intelligence including the location and movements of regime troops along with their communications.

According to reports, both British and German spies are working to pass on critical information to the Syrian rebels and it appears that these intelligence agencies have absolutely no qualms about what they are doing.

“We can be proud of the significant contribution we are making to the fall of the Assad regime,” an official from Germany’s BND foreign intelligence service told Bild am Sonntag, according to the Herald Sun.

According to the German news outlet, German spies have been stationed both off the Syrian coast and at a NATO base in Turkey while the British Sunday Times stated that British intelligence was passing on information gathered from listening posts in Cyprus.

The reports state that the intelligence is passed through Turkey to the FSA which is hardly surprising given the fact that there have been reports in the past of cross-border incursions from Turkey into Syria.

“British intelligence is observing things closely from Cyprus,” an opposition official said to the Sunday Times, according to Sky News.

“It’s very useful because they find out a great deal,” continued the unnamed official. “The British are giving the information to the Turks and the Americans and we are getting it from the Turks.”

The mention of Americans is critical because recent reports have stated that the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been working to funnel weapons to the armed Syrian opposition.

“The British monitor communications about movements of the government army and we got information about reinforcements being on their way to Aleppo,” the official stated.

“We hit at the government troops in Idlib and Saraqib (southwest of Aleppo), with success,” said the official.

Now the Washington Post is reporting fighting in and around Aleppo with heavy clashes in Salahuddin, Ansari, Sabbagh, Sukkari, Sakhour and Hanano.

It appears that the British are attempting to maintain plausible deniability and remove themselves from being associated with directly putting guns in the hands of the Syrian rebels.

“One diplomat denied that the British were ‘facilitating’ the supply of heavy machineguns. But he said he could not rule out the possibility that private contractors financed by countries such as Qatar were involved in providing arms,” according to the Daily Mail.

“Wealthy families in Qatar and Saudi Arabia are understood to be providing substantial financial support to the rebel forces,” they added./../..

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August 25th, 2012, 9:23 am

 

117. Observer said:

This is from RT in arabic

It talks about the fact that the Russian fleet is a pygmy compared to what NATO has in the East Mediterrenian

It talks about losing Tartous

This is your ally declaring retreat

Read to the end

http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/analytics/69036/

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August 25th, 2012, 9:25 am

 

118. mjabali said:

Observer:

First of all you are giving us a lecture about freedom of speech and still you are labeling us altogether by the word “apologists.”

Please indicate for me when did I “apologized” for al-Assads: father and son?

Respect my freedom of speech. If you want to label me I advise you to look for a better one.

You, and many on this form did not respect my freedom of opinion. I could like whatever and take whatever side I want. This is my personal choice.

And to answer your question: Yes this regime should had been gone a long time ago.

Now: would you have the courtesy and let us know why you are found of labeling people: and what is the difference between you and Hafez al-Assad for example in this regard?

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August 25th, 2012, 9:26 am

 

119. Son of Damascus said:

Zoo,

“It’s ironical to hear and American describing his “non-life” in the USA, the land of “democracy”, “justice” and “freedom”.
It seems his ‘life’ is meaningful only in danger and closeness to death.
I have not seen any US newspaper reporting his articles until he became famous by disappearing.”

I would suggest you reread what Austin wrote but before that take off your blinders, you might understand what he wrote.

Btw he has contributed many times to the Washington Post and is McClatchy contributor as well. Maybe it is time to look at ‘other’ news that might not follow your rigid sources that are not “openly bias”.

Since when are Voltaire, Xinhua, PressTv anything other than openly bias?

__________

Personally I find it rather pathetic when minhebaks keep attacking the victims, and it is these same callous people that call for “dialogue”. Whatever the hell that means in their sick and twisted world where a documentary film maker is not just an artist, a cartoonist deserves his hands to be broken, and a citizen journalist deserves to rot in Bashar’s dungeons, I doubt their call for “dialogue” mean anything other than to preserve the status quo and keep Bashar and his bloody cronies in power.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:28 am

 

120. zoo said:

#111 Visitor

Do you understand english?

“Turkey’s plan to host Syrians within the Syrian border was also discussed, but as the plan envisages the engagement of military elements, the U.S. does not see it as implementable at this stage. Instead, Washington prefers a more coordinated relief effort to extend aid to refugees inside Syria.”

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August 25th, 2012, 9:29 am

 

121. Tara said:

Observer,

Exactly. It is astonishing though that an attempt to instill fear is coming from an educated Alawi. But just thinking about Sayu, he is so immersed in personality cult and Assad worshiping that his education is not serving him well.

Sayu,

Do you really think that your attempt to intimidate me has a 1 per mil chance of being successful ? There is an office for FSA in D.C. The US approved donating money to their cause. The US is providing them with non-lethal communication equipment. If you are interested, I can provide you with contact number to donate money. Don’t be cheap. I do not like cheap men.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:33 am

 

122. zoo said:

#117 SOD

Please point me to a recent article written by this journalist.

From what he says in this piece, the guy sounds to me mentally scarred by his period in the marines: Lauding death.
No one deserved to be beaten or tortured in both sides of the fence.

Wars have always witnessed excesses, remember only recently the waterboarding and Abu Ghraib from the “law abiding” USA.
It is not an excuse, it is a sad human reality.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:38 am

 

123. zoo said:

Visitor

40% Sunnis In Iran??? They are 9% and mostly Kurds.

Maybe you could check before following your wild imagination, or you heard that on Al Jazeera or Al Arabua again?.

“Most Iranians are Muslims. Around 89% belong to Shi’a branch of Islam, the official state religion, and about 9% belong to the Sunni branch of Islam. The remaining 2% are non-Muslim religious minorities, including Bahá’ís, Mandeans, Hindus, Yarsanis, Zoroastrians, Jews, and Christians.

About 9%[1] of the Iranian population are Sunni Muslims – mostly Kurds in the northwest “,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran

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August 25th, 2012, 9:46 am

 

124. Visitor said:

# 118,

It looks to me that it is you who does not understand English or may be deliberately does not want to.

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August 25th, 2012, 9:49 am

 

125. Visitor said:

115 OBSERVER,

RT has different staff for different audiences. The Arabic link you provided is obviously more realistic and explains very well the failure of Russia’s policies.

The English U-Tube link in 109 is obviously addressed to the US public and the Turkish public in order to create confusion and doubts.

It was clear in that video that the only one who made sense was the Turkish analyst who was purposely cut off by the RT presenter for lack of time when the Turkish guest asked for only one sentence to complete his presentation and it took the presenter almost a minute to explain why he cannot give him more time. Instead he preferred to give time to the Americans who were saying well known worn out propaganda that you can easily find on many leftist websites.

The Turkish mr.. Baksh was explaining logically the failure of so-called Zero problem policy and the need for it to be replaced by a more robust Rurkish involvement based on realism. The RT presenter did not like this type of presentation.

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August 25th, 2012, 10:07 am

 

126. Visitor said:

# 121,

The figures that you quote from wiki are official government figures and are inaccurate. It is a well known fact that Shia sources always inflate their figures in order to compensate for the lack of human capital. It is part of their posturing mentality and a means to overcome a deep seated inferiority complex. Cheap but it works on some audiences that are uninterested or uninformed.

The real figures are closer to what I quoted.

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August 25th, 2012, 10:19 am

 

127. zoo said:

SOD

I read some articles from Austin Tice, 31.
“Tice was no stranger to war zones, having led Marines during combat tours in Afghanistan and Iraq and rising to the rank of captain”
He sounds to me like a young man finding personal excitement in living dangerous experiences. His description of the fights are just like a war movie script, vivid and well written.

The episode where he dressed with a nikab and an abaya to get into Damascus and run in the streets of Damascus is a good example of his narrative and suspenseful talent. He is obviously getting his kick out of the exciting experience of being in a war and writing about it.
Having been in the US Navy for 6 years, he is more suspicious than other journalists of being part of the CIA. Therefore, if he has been caught, he is certainly in deep trouble.

Let’s hope that the end of the movie will not be his end. If he makes it, he’ll have a career as a novel writer or a screenplay writer.

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August 25th, 2012, 10:21 am

 

128. Tara said:

Zoo@125

I don’t like it when trying to degrade journalists sacrificing themselves to reveal the truth by describing them as thrill- seekers who are getting a kick out of being in the heart of danger. It is like robbing them from their heroism. Would you have said the same thing if he was trying to uncover Christian plot in Iraq?

I invite you to reconsider.

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August 25th, 2012, 10:35 am

 

129. zoo said:

124. Visitor

Please provide the source of you ‘accurate’ information.

This figure is from the CIA. Check the document page 38

Iran’s Religious Composition
Shi’a Muslim
89%
Sunni Muslim
9%
SOURCE: CIA, 2007.
NOTE: These figures are consistent with data from more-detailed studies of Iranian
ethnography; see Shaffer, 2002, pp. 221–225.
Zoroastrian, Christian, Jewish, and Baha’i
2%

The RAND Corporation is a nonprofit research organization providing objective analysis and effective solutions that address the challenges facing the public and private sectors around the world
http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2008/RAND_MG693.pdf

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August 25th, 2012, 10:36 am

 

130. Ghufran said:

نقلت معلومات صحافية عن دبلوماسي دولي رفيع في نيويورك أنّ “مبعوث الأمم المتحدة الجديد إلى سوريا الأخضر الإبراهيمي سيطرح رؤيته للمرحلة الانتقالية في سوريا في أثناء الاجتماع المقرّر لمجلس الأمن على المستوى الوزاري في 30 آب الحالي”.
وأكّد المصدر نفسه أنّ “الخطة التي سيطرحها الإبراهيمي للعملية الانتقالية لا تتضمّن أيّ دور للرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وسيكون للجيش السوري دور مهمّ في المرحلة الانتقالية”، مشيرا إلى أنّ “التململ بلغ مستوى عالياً في صفوف القادة السياسيين والعسكريين والدبلوماسيين في الحكومة السورية، وقد بدأت روسيا والصين تُبديان تفهّماً واقعياً للتطوّرات في سوريا”، حسب تعبيره.
Assad should have resigned in March,2011, his presence today serves one purpose:
Giving anti regime forces an easy target that serves as a magnet that attracts angry and grieving Syrians under a common slogan ارحل
There was not a single person in the regime who had the stature and the courage to ask Assad to resign,any dissent in any form or shape was not acceptable,this is why a regime like the one in Syria is called a dictatorship,what made things worse is Assad’s lack of experience, charisma and wisdom,he was the wrong man for the job from day one,I suspect that his character is what convinced fat cats and corrupt officials to appoint him president.

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August 25th, 2012, 10:39 am

 

131. zoo said:

#126 Tara

There are many kind of journalists. Usually war reporters have that character traits, this is why they go from wars to wars, facing and loving danger, sometimes irrespective of what war and what side they are in.

Of course being part of the rebels is more exciting and dangerous than being in the marines fighting rebels, like Austin Tice did in Afghanistan and Iraq.

While reading some of Austin Tice’s articles, I have unfortunately only seen the spectacular aspect of the war, therefore I got the impression that sharing the cause of the Syrian fighters was not a priority. His personal excitement of being part of a dangerous adventure was his priority and it is natural in view of his young age.

I may be wrong but that’s what I perceived.

Please don’t use the christian/ moslem paranoia. You know well that this is irrelevant for me.

Austin Tice articles
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/search_results?q=AUSTIN+TICE

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August 25th, 2012, 11:02 am

 

132. Tara said:

Zoo

“Please don’t use the christian/ moslem paranoia. You know well that this is irrelevant for me.”

I know well? Big smile… It kills me that I do..let me stop at that.

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August 25th, 2012, 11:12 am

 

133. VISITOR said:

# 127,

All those sources originate from the same source: the government.

So there is no need to list repetitive copy and paste sources.

Shia sources are well known to inflate their figures and deflate others due to lack of followers of their creed, and a deep seated inferiority complex. It is their standard posturing technique to compensate for those deficiencies

It is a cheap technique that often works only on the uniformed and the uninterested.

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August 25th, 2012, 11:17 am

 

134. zoo said:

After the disastrous opposition AL meeting in Cairo in July, another AL meeting planned in Cairo gets almost zero media coverage. No dates set, no list of participants.
It might as well be cancelled as it may show again the irreconciliable divisions of the opposition.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

Friday 24 August 2012 19.35 BST

The Arab League is to host a meeting of the Syrian opposition in Cairo on Saturday in an effort to produce a common programme to unite opponents of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, but the effort has been marred by disunity and a threatened boycott by the Syrian National Council (SNC).

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August 25th, 2012, 11:23 am

 

135. zoo said:

Visitor

France pedals back the no-fly zone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/syria-opposition-unity-talks-cairo?newsfeed=true

Friday 24 August 2012 19.35 BST

“Meanwhile, Paris played down reported remarks by the defence minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, which appeared to reflect backing for some form of no-fly zone over part of Syria. Officials said he had been misquoted and any foreign air activity over Syria would be illegal.”

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August 25th, 2012, 11:25 am

 

136. zoo said:

131. VISITOR

If you have no source, then you have no credibility.

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August 25th, 2012, 11:27 am

 

137. Visitor said:

#123

You got that backward. If your source is suspect, and in your case it always is, then you have no credibility.

In any case, you just proved the point that I made to TARA in 22.

You don’t seem to stop responding to me even though I continue to address you as mere number.

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August 25th, 2012, 11:52 am

 

138. Ghufran said:

قالت قناة ” سكاي نيوز ” نقلاً عن مصادر إن اللواء محمد موسى الخيرات، قائد الفرقة السابعة في الجيش السوري انشق و فر إلى الأردن .
و بينت أوساط معارضة أن اللواء المنشق هو من ابناء مدينة الحراك بدرعا، و التي تتعرض لعمليات عسكرية منذ أيام سقط على اثرها العديد من الشهداء  و الجرحى.
يذكر أن الانشقاق هو الأرفع في المؤسسة العسكرية السورية .

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August 25th, 2012, 12:05 pm

 

139. ann said:

Syrian Christians in 2-week blockade by rebel fighters, residents desperate – 25 August, 2012

http://rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-blockade-christians-549/

An estimated 12,000 people have spent two weeks blockaded in the Christian town of Rableh, Syria, near Homs in the south. Experiencing a shortage of food and medical supplies, residents could not leave as rebel snipers were shooting at them.

­The town, close to the border with Lebanon, was liberated by Syrian government forces on Friday, according to Beirut-based Al-Mayadeen satellite channel. These reports are yet to be verified. Sixty militants were reportedly eliminated.

For about two weeks Syrian rebels maintained blockade of the mostly-Christian town, refusing entry to food and medical supplies, according to the Aid to the Church in Need Catholic charity, which tried to deliver supplies to the city.

“We have organized ourselves so we can stand by each other and we are sharing everything so we can survive. We need all the help we can get. Please help us,” a local priest told the Caritas, a Lebanon-based Catholic humanitarian organization, during a phone call from Rableh.

After a two-week blockade the basic necessities were reportedly running out in the town because the bridges around the settlement had been blown up and roads were made impassable.

Snipers were waiting for those who thought about leaving the town in search for food. Those who dared to leave in search for food were shot at. Three men who made attempts to leave the disaster zone were shot dead, informed the charity’s representative Father Waldemar Cislo from Beirut.

There were motorcyclists who made an attempt to carry bread into the village, but they were also shot at, though managing to escape the firing line unhurt.

Electric power supply has also been disrupted in the area as the conflict between the Bashar Assad government’s forces and the rebel militants intensified.

Those Syrians who finally made it to the other side of the border described the situation back home as critical.

“Some people are starting to feel the hunger, children’s milk is running out, [there are] no canned goods, even children’s diapers no longer exist,” they said.

Both Syrian and Lebanon Catholic authorities have also been calling for urgent help to the people in Rableh.

Aid to the Church in Need, previously active in Damascus, Aleppo and Homs (Syria), and Caritas (Lebanon) had formed a small – about 800 kilograms – emergency aid delivery consisting mostly of food, medicine and milk powder, hoping to get it to the town if militants agreed to let it pass, but troops made it to the scene first.

Electric power supply to Rableh has already been restored, reports Al-Mayadeen satellite channel.

The government of President Bashar al-Assad said the country’s capital has been freed from the militants and the mop-up operation in the financial hub of Aleppo is getting close to the end.

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http://rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-blockade-christians-549/

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August 25th, 2012, 12:19 pm

 

140. Visitor said:

Putin knows that after his henchmen in Damascus are swept over to the dustbin of history, Russia’s turn is next, and he is worried that Russia will disintegrate.

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/92521bc7-5be8-4a65-9650-35e4a22581a4?GoogleStatID=1

Well, we knew all along mr. Putin that your Russia is an artificial patchwork of disparate entities. Good riddance. No tears will be shed. And, the world will not lose much.

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August 25th, 2012, 12:27 pm

 

141. ann said:

Powell Warns Against Outside Military Action in Syria – August 25, 2012

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-25/powell-warns-against-outsident-military-action-in-syria

Outside military involvement in Syria is “probably not the solution” to the “civil war” occurring in the country, said former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Powell made the remarks in an interview with CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS” scheduled for broadcast tomorrow.

“It’s not clear to me that the outside world can do much more than lend encouragement to his departure, perhaps provide some limited assistance to the free Syrian forces,” Powell said, according to a CNN transcript.

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-25/powell-warns-against-outsident-military-action-in-syria

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August 25th, 2012, 12:44 pm

 
 

143. zoo said:

#135 Visitor

“If your source is suspect, and in your case it always is, then you have no credibility.”

If you don’t have any source, it means that either you are too lazy to find one, or you are inventing the number, and that would not come as a surprise after all the fabulations you posted.

Addressing me consciously as a number is a sign of arrogance, and that also does not surprise me coming from you.

Overall you are not credible but very predictable.

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August 25th, 2012, 1:16 pm

 

144. zoo said:

Syria media warn of ‘fake email’ saying VP sacked
AFP – 1 hr 21 mins ago

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-media-warn-fake-email-saying-vp-sacked-155957424.html?_esi=1

Syria’s state news agency SANA said on Saturday that a fake email had been sent out in its name claiming that Vice President Faruq al-Shara had been sacked.

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August 25th, 2012, 1:23 pm

 

145. zoo said:

Any guessing who said that?

“This Ramadan began with great blessings on Syria as we pointed out when it came upon us. It will end with even greater blessings and victories for the Syrian people and its glorious and historic revolution, all by the grace of Our God and the heroic achievements of the heroes of the FSA.”

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August 25th, 2012, 1:35 pm

 

146. Observer said:

Majbali I never ever objected to whatever you want to think or to express. You are free to declare any idea and I am even a card carrying member of the ACLU that sued the state of Mississipi when it prevented the KKK from demonstrating.
You can demonstrate and say whatever you want you can even say what many consider politically incorrect statement.
I am heartened that you agree that the regime must go.

Now it is clear that ZOO and ANN are bombarding us with news of the new dictators that we are seeing in the ME or so they tell us. Tunis under Islamists, Libya with the MB, Morsi’s Egypt under the thumb and the fate of Christians and other minorities are now the order of the day in news and views.

For the sake of stability they are in support of; according to them ,an “authoritarian” regime as Reagan used to call his dictators.

As Ben Franklin said those that trade stability for freedom will get neither and they do not deserve freedom.

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August 25th, 2012, 1:58 pm

 

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