Syria Faces A New Economic Reality – By Ehsani

Syria Faces A New Economic Reality
By Ehsani for Syria Comment
Sept 26, 2011

The recently announced import suspension prohibits the import of  all products that have a customs duty of over 5 percent. This notice also covers countries that Syria signed a free trade agreement with (Turkey, Ukraine and the Arab countries for example).  The original signed free trade agreements will no longer be fully adhered to.

As expected, the Ministry did issue a list of products which received an exemption from the ruling.  There are 51 items on this list. The first 17 are of the food products variety like meat, fish, cashew nuts, almonds and bananas.  Some of the details on the list are mind-bogglingly trivial.  The type of fish that was exempted from the ban for example was sword fish which made it to item number 5. Fish (with teeth) from the south pole or Australia also made it to the exemption list at number 6. But the sword fish were dropped again in item 7 which allowed all fish other than sword fish or those from the south pole and Australia.

The rest of the items are mostly medical in nature. Examples include x-ray machines, various Lab equipments, Dental chairs, and prescription and sun glasses.  The only vehicles allowed are buses for the local public transportation companies, fire and ambulance trucks as well as fork lifts. Mobile phones (current customs duty of 10%) were also exempt from the ruling.  This suspension is effective for all imports after September 22, 2011 (those who used a local bank prior to this date are exempt). Overall, the complexity of this ruling can only be appreciated when one delves into even more detail of what is banned and what is not.

The General Reaction to the Ruling:

The deputy Minister of the Economy and Trade was in Aleppo today. He was in a packed room of businessmen at the city’s Chamber of Commerce. Several passionate pleas were made to rethink the decision and to exempt more products. Many explained how they already have goods on the way and wondered what they would with them (they did not have an L/C open before September 22nd).  One wondered why cashew nuts were exempted when the U.S. used to be the largest supplier of this product (Vietnam and India are now the world’s largest exporters).  To every question, the deputy Minister’s response was to ask that they do so in writing and when the Ministry receives their written questions, it will study them in detail and see how they can help. To which one food importer responded that it would be too late as his goods are already at the border and by the time his letter reaches Damascus and be read he would have already thrown away his rotting produce.

One can read more about these shock waves hitting the Syrian business community. In the meantime, government has tried its best to argue that the decision has both pluses and minuses. On the minus side, the government is aware that prices of the recently banned items will rise rather significantly. Indeed, reports of price hikes close to 40 percent have already been reported on few electronic items while companies like Sony, Sharp and others have suspended their sales in the country altogether. While the government did not mention it, the other minus will stem from the fact that the grey market will now flourish as illicit trade fills the inevitable void that will develop. On the plus side, the Minister of the economy and trade has tried to argue that this decision will help local producers and employment. The argument appears logical at first. However, by referring to the measures as “temporary”, one fails to see how local producers will add to expensive capacity and hire new employees knowing that the decision can be reversed anytime. Local manufacturers are unlikely to invest in new machinery and equipment in this atmosphere. As it is, a number of industrialists have put expansion or new projects on hold over the last few years as the government has proved incapable of delivering sufficient electricity capacity.

Syria’s external Accounts undermined by its fixed exchange rate

This article argues that while the decision to suspend imports for these products appears to have been caused by the recent sanctions imposed by the US and EU, Syria’s external accounts were already being undercut by the fixed exchange rate policy that had encouraged imports and discouraged exports for years.  In the end, the authorities have found it expensive and difficult to finance the insatiable demand for foreign made products at the rate of SYP 47 to the dollar while revenues from oil production and exports fell steadily.

The 2012 Syrian Budget Rises by 59%

In addition to the pressure stemming from an imbalance in its foreign trade position, the other main problem in the economy comes from the government budgeting situation.  Just yesterday, the state increased its expenditures by 59 percent when it announced its new budget for 2012. The Social subsidies alone will amount to 29% percent (US$ 7.72) of all government expenditures . This means that one third out of every Dollar that the government spends will go to supporting a hugely expensive subsidy program that has spiraled out of control thanks to the country’s demographics and illicit trading (especially in mazot – fuel oil). How large is the budget and total government expenditures this year? The number is $US 26.5 billion or 50 per cent of total nominal GDP. This is an astoundingly high number.

Failure to Tax

The US$9.8 billion jump in expenditures this year needs to be funded by increased tax collection in a business environment that will be extremely challenging. One of the examples of an obvious and gaping hole in the government’s ability to collect taxes comes from custom duties on imports. While the government imposes duties close to 50% on many products, the 2009 government revenue from this area indicates that the treasury was only able to collect US$ 0.56 billion or 4.3% of the total value of goods imported. Following the recent sanctions on Syrian crude exports, it seems that the country was able to export around 110,000  barrels per day.  Revenues from such exports used to be in the range of  $3.0 billion. Given the recent sanctions and even when alternative buyers are found, it is expected that this can only take place after a hair cut is offered on the globally traded price. This is likely to further erode the government’s ability to earn much needed foreign exchange. It is possible that the difficulties of finding buyers will be such that talk of barter trades will soon be discussed. Iran already does this with its own crude exports. Indeed, this morning the Financial Times claims that Syria is unable to find any buyers for its oil (See Story below).

The pros and cons of a stable exchange rate:

Since the last currency crisis in the mid-1980, Syria has defined both political and economic success by the stability of its foreign exchange regime.   The central bank used the stability of its foreign exchange as the main metric of successful economic management.  This metric did not include economic growth, employment level or the balance of payments as targets. Stable exchange rate led to inflation stability and this is all that mattered to the economic planners.

In a flexible exchange regime, a loss of competitiveness or a widening trade imbalance usually results in a weaker currency which acts as self-correcting valve that restores the initial imbalances over time. Artificially fixed exchange rates deprive an economy from such a correcting mechanism. This is what happened in Syria. While this policy seemingly held imported inflation in check, it was causing significant damage to external accounts.  As the country adopted the new social market economy and import restrictions were lifted, an import orgy was now underway.  This was augmented by free trade agreements with the Arab world and later with Turkey.  Local producers who lived for decades under the comfortable protection of “himaye wataniye” were now under assault from a global market place that was more efficient and competitive than them.  It did not take long for Syrians to dump their manufacturing hats and transform themselves into importers. Throughout this worsening export/import imbalance, the currency value did not budge.  The Central Bank intervened at any sign of SYP weakness.

For Syria to continue to finance importers at the rate of SYP 47 to $1 dollar, it needed matching foreign currency receipts from its exports, remittances or tourism.  The hopes were high when it came to the latter two.  Thanks to a steady fall in oil production and exports however, the country’s ability to accumulate serious foreign currency was becoming harder to accomplish.  In spite of such trends, the foreign exchange regime was never modified to weaken the SYP to help make imports more expensive and/or to give local producers a much needed slight competitive advantage.

Proponents of the stable fixed Exchange rate regime pointed to stable inflation as the primary objective and how allowing the SYP to devalue will harm the economy. In reality, however, what transpired is that the government exhausted its ability to finance the country’s increasing appetite to import. Much has been discussed of the fact that the Central Bank sits on a comfortable foreign exchange reserve position of nearly US$ 18 billion. In reality, this number is impossible to verify. The official government data and accounting is simply not transparent enough to confirm such claims. More transparency is highly desirable in an effort to reduce speculation and rely on factual data during such a critical period. In the meantime, the only thing certain is that the government has decided to conserve on whatever foreign reserves it has at its disposal to prepare for an extremely challenging economic times in the period ahead.

News Round Up

Ban forces Syria to cut oil production – Financial Times

Syria has told foreign oil companies to cut production due to a backlog of crude that has filled its storage capacity because the government has been so far unable to bypass an embargo on crude oil exports imposed by the European Union.

Syria has sought to sell its oil to nations outside the EU, which before the ban imported around 95 per cent of the country’s output.

But industry executives and oil traders said the country had been so far unable to attract new
buyers in spite of offering discounts.

The failure has forced foreign oil companies to pump crude originally earmarked for export into storage. “There is a backlog of crude in the country,” said an industry executive.

“Storage is filling up,” the executive added, saying that some companies had been told to reduce output.

Gulfsands Petroleum, the London-listed company which operates in Syria, has cut its production by around 40 per cent at the request of the authorities. The company is now pumping about 14,500 barrels a day, down from about than 24,000 b/d in August.

Industry executives said other international oil companies operating in the country, which include Royal Dutch Shell, Total of France, and state-owned CNPC of China and ONGC of India, have also recently received orders to cut back.

Although international oil companies hope the cuts are temporary, and will end when Syria finds nations willing to take its crude, others see the drop lasting as long as the EU embargo remains.

Brussels imposed the oil ban in response to a crackdown by the regime of Bashar al-Assad on pro-democracy activists that
has seen more than 2,700 people die in the past six months.

Syria produced in August around 370,000 b/d of low quality crude oil, according to the International Energy Agency, the western countries’ oil watchdog.

The country exported around 150,000 b/d, with the rest consumed domestically. Germany and Italy accounted for roughly two-thirds of Syria’s oil exports last year.

Imad Moustapha, Syria’s ambassador to Washington, said in a recent interview with the Financial Times that the country would have no problem finding markets for its oil.

“It’s not that we are approaching people, it’s the other way around. We
are being approached,” he said.

But so far this month not a single cargo of Syrian crude oil has left the nation’s main export oil ports, according to shipping data. Several tenders of low quality, high sulphur Souedie crude, the country’s main export stream, have failed to attract any interest, traders said.

Oil traders said the impact of the EU ban on Syrian oil was wider than previously expected as international banks refused to open letters of credits – a common instrument used in trading – with Syrian entities, even when to destinations outside the EU. Tanker-owners were also reluctant to send their vessels to Syrian ports, they said.

The production losses compound the tight supply and demand balance in the Mediterranean and European region, home of four of the world’s 10 largest oil importing countries: Germany, France, Spain and Italy.

But the shortfall is not nearly as big as that created by the civil war in Libya, which produced before the start of the revolution 1.6m b/d of high quality, low sulphur crude oil.

Shell directed questions about production in Syria to the Damascus-based Al-Furat Petroleum Company, which could not be reached. Al-Furat is a joint venture between Syria’s state-owned General Petroleum Corporation, which controls a 50 per cent stake, Shell Oil and CNPC. Total did not responded to calls and e-mails.

Also from the FT, Syrian to look east for oil markets

Imad Moustapha, Damascus’s envoy in Washington, says the country will be able to offset the impact of western sanctions by looking east.

Mr Moustapha would not elaborate on which companies or countries had contacted his government but Syria’s bravado underlines the difficulty that western nations have in trying to inflict economic pain on President Bashar al-Assad’s regime in a bid to make it stop its violent crackdown on six months of pro-democracy protests.

“It’s not that we are approaching people, it’s the other way around. We are being approached,” Mr Moustapha told the Financial Times. “But no contracts have been signed yet.”

The US has imposed repeated rounds of sanctions on the Syrian regime since the unrest began in March, most recently banning any US investment in Syria’s crucial energy sector and prohibiting US companies from buying Syrian oil.

The sanctions were mainly symbolic as the US has minimal involvement in Syria’s energy sector. But the European Union, which buys more than 90 per cent of Syria’s crude oil exports, followed suit with an oil embargo of its own.

The 27-member bloc, however, said members had until mid-November to stop importing oil, a grace period during which Syria could line up other buyers for its oil, thereby possibly limiting the immediate impact.

Mr Moustapha brushed off the American sanctions, saying the US had been taking such actions since the 1950s. But the European sanctions were a different story.

“Of course they are going to have a negative effect. They create a challenge for us to find a way to develop our economy and we are not denying that it will be a challenge,” he said.

Syria would be forced to shift its economic gaze eastward, Mr Moustapha said, just as Iran increasingly looked to China after chilling sanctions on its energy and financial sectors.

“We will re-orient our economy towards Asia, Africa and South America. We have a whole spectrum of options open to us,” he said.

Syria exports a heavy, sour crude oil called Souedie, chiefly to refiners in Germany, Italy, France and the Netherlands. Although it would be expensive to transport it beyond the Mediterranean Sea, both China and India have the technical capacity to refine this type of oil.

Ayham Kamel, a Middle East analyst at the Eurasia Group in Washington, said he would not be surprised if customers had been knocking on Syria’s door, looking to take advantage of the political situation to get a cheap de

Harvard website hacked by Syria protesters – BBC

Along with a picture of Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, the hacked home page showed a message saying the “Syrian Electronic Army Were Here”.

A further message made terror threats against the United States and criticised its opposition to the Assad regime.

Harvard said this has been the work of a “sophisticated individual or group”.

“The university’s homepage was compromised by an outside party this morning. We took down the site for several hours in order to restore it. The attack appears to have been the work of a sophisticated individual or group,” said a Harvard spokesman.

The website was hacked on Monday morning by what appeared to be sympathisers of President Assad of Syria, with a picture of the president in military uniform appearing in front of a Syrian flag.

This was linked to another image of Syrian national colours, with a message accusing the United States of involvement in the uprisings against President Assad.

Brief Note:

The Sarkozy story from the previous thread has elicited many responses questioning the accuracy of the report and why the story was published without investigating further into the claim. It is indeed the case that SC did not do more than link to the story as it appeared in Al Diyar. Another reader asked the source of the information behind Hotbird’s decision to stop carrying addunia. It was here.

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1001. Revlon said:

961 Dear Pirouz,
I have managed to find this document for you. It gives an idea about the organisation and deployment of one of the phalanges of the FSA.

http://www.facebook.com/Youth.Syria.Freedom#!/photo.php?fbid=241504872568293&set=a.211018292283618.61745.207658485952932&type=1&theater

It is an announcement by the Military council of the organisational structure of Khaled Ibn Alwalid Phalange of the FSA, with the acronyms of their leaders and their deployment in the various neibourhouds of Homs city.

Cheers!

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October 1st, 2011, 12:21 pm

 

1002. Mina said:

It’s time to read The Shock Doctrine, by Naomi Klein.
The solution can only be global, because thugs are not only in the Arab world, sorry I have to explain that to some of the wealthy Syrian expats who read this blog.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/30/city-conservatives-donations

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October 1st, 2011, 12:29 pm

 

1003. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

DAY 196 – 16,973 PRISONERS –DO SOMETHING PLEASE.

Are there any real Moslem blogging here, one that have compassion like his Allah, Alrahman Alrahim الرحمن الرحيم or just fake Mossad-CIA paid puppies threatening endless worthless crap no one read. 16, 973 are now in Assad prisons, the dead are moved to the lower astral, but those in prison are in real living hell. Where is Moslem Allah compassion for them, why no one ever talks about them or their misery? Could it be because like Libya, this Syrian Revolution is really a terrorist, destructive campaign by NEOCON-KHAZZAR Reptilian devil worshipers and few graduates of Guantanamo Islamic University de-programming/re-programming school of terrorism, all having an advanced degree in Terrorism and Virtual manipulation ( ALA 9/11) fake videos, fake witness, fake identity, hell… fake everything even calling themselves Moslem is fake. How could a set of compassionate Moslems who are so compassionate that they will whip lash a girl for driving, slit someone throat for not agreeing with them, hell of compassion huh. How they can simply ignore the entire plea for help and not come up with something, a word, a deal. One can conclude that none of the participant in the Revolution is in fact Syrian. The only Syrians in this revolution is the one cattle herded to Turkey to set up Councils to act as front for foreign mercenaries living in safe houses in Syria, helped by local traitors and Moslem terrorists.

You will see this M.O pattern played out throughout the Middle East, Asia and former Russian States.

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October 1st, 2011, 1:17 pm

 

1004. uzair8 said:

@1000 MINA.

Congratulations on the 1000th comment. :)

You have gained a place in the Menhabek ‘Hall of Fame’. (See comment #950).

NOTICE: This award is subject to adjustment as comments may appear after a delay and change the position of posts.

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October 1st, 2011, 1:44 pm

 

1005. Anton said:

Dear YA MARA GHALBA

At the beginning of the events in Syria couple months ago I wrote couple of comments explaining what I believed is taking place in Syria which maybe in line to what you wrote here, “Mr. Nouri al-Maliki quote” and I am still believe in it, and try to find out what is next?.. can you please try to share with us your thought on what is the best solution for Syria today ?, or what could be the outcome in short and long terms ?

My thought is – If all ends soon on the president’s and the government’s terms, then he should move to a future democratic Syria and guarantee the human rights, freedom opportunity and well being for all Syrians, Syria is blessed with a wonderful history ,unique historic tourist attractions, enormous capabilities in energy and agriculture (Syria exports its oil and surplus agriculture harvests), an educated population, bright and eager young people who deserve and demand a free future with opportunity for all. Given that freedom, all Syrians will grow, benefit, and prosper with massive tourism and jobs that will lift all citizens of Syria.

This time Syrians need to be more intelligent and thoughtful about what design for us, and how we can use it for our own benefits and destiny to become great again as we use to be throughout history.

We should work and come together to create our great Syria again and spread peace across Middle East.

I hope from the bottom of my heart that President Assad pulls all the people in this region together to be part of a great and prosper Syria, he is our only hope, otherwise we are back to the 1920 sequence of events.

We should be all for Syria .

Thanks for your insight

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October 1st, 2011, 1:44 pm

 

1006. Mina said:

JNA
you can’t use the phrase “sub-commandante” (i bet you took it from Marcos, the guy who was in Mexico?) to apply it to such a moron!!!

More on the global situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKM9gEOxWw4&feature=player_embedded#
(oil peak or not yet? why the West badly needs KSA, i. e. bye bye Yemen and Bahrein protests, we need another puppet show for prime time, the Syrian one)

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October 1st, 2011, 1:47 pm

 

1007. Mango said:

http://www.mn.ru/Eugenii_Satanovski/20110803/303722729.html
The Syrian crossword puzzle
Evgenie Satanovsky
Proceeding antigovernmental performances to Syria, which suppression has entailed big human a victim, has caused nervous reaction of “the international community». Thousand were lost is the fact. On the other hand, “civilians” kill and wound hundreds military men and policemen is too the fact.

World mass-media describe an event in Syria as reprisals of a ruling mode against own people, and they are right. A mode, obviously losing information war, speaks about support of performances from the outside, and it too truth. A trouble that all attempts to describe an event as performance of “good guys» against tyranny, have to a Near-Eastern reality as a whole and to the Syrian case in particular no any relation.

Bashar Asad the authoritative governor, and its mode does not cause special sympathies neither in its neighbors, nor at its citizens, at the European and American political moralists. But in region is not present and even in the remote prospect it is not expected other modes. Democracy in the Near East about which so it is much told in connection with «in the Arabian spring», is not the rights of the person habitual for the modern Western world and the right of minority, and the majority right to plunder or destroy minority. Exceptions here does not happen.

Criticizing the Syrian management for suppression of protests Turkey cited as an example to the Islamic world Hillari Clinton during its recent visit to this country as the example of Near-Eastern democracy, rigidly stops displays of national interests of Kurds. Algeria — berbers. The Christian communities are living on the edge of a volcano in “democratic” Iraq and Lebanon, Egypt and Palestinian autonomy.

The Syrian problem has no exit which would suit all. The mode, certainly, is corrupted, agents of national security have gone too far, and the population wearily to wait for changes to the best. Alternative, however, not modernization and prosperity, and chaos.

The situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, Tunis and Egypt shows, in what results wreck of authoritative modes, without dependence from that, it is accompanied by external intervention or not. Today in Syria blood flows, but overthrow of a ruling mode for this polyconfessional and multinational country will mean its almost inevitable disintegration on five or six enclaves and the rivers of blood non-comparable to present victims. About it tells the popular slogan in the ranks of opposition: «Christians — to Lebanon, алавитов — in a tomb».

Moderated сунниты and Druzes, Kurds and Shiits among whom алавиты — only the most influential community, Christians and the rests of Jews hardly can live easy under power «Brothers-Moslems« which mutiny in the Boor the Syrian army is again compelled to suppress as had been suppressed it in this city three decades ago the father of the present president. And the population perfectly understands it, and manifestations of protest support many, but not all.
Actually Syria — fight this field in unsolemn war between, on the one hand, Shiit Iran, which unique ally in the Arabian world it is today, and, on the other hand, Saudi Arabia and blocked with it in opposition of the Iranian expansion суннитскими monarchy of Persian gulf.

For this reason the finance and the weapon of the Syrian opposition arrive through related to local bedouins tribes of Iraq, at more than transparent role in these operations «заливников», and the basic information attack to Asada is conducted by Qatar “Al-Dzhazira”. The special role in an event is played by Turkey applying within the limits of a course taken by her on construction of “new Ottoman empire» for a role of the Supreme arbitrator of all event in the Arabian countries which still a century ago were Turkish provinces. It is no casual in Turkish territory formation attempts «the consolidated opposition» which in the long term can be used as a basis of the future puppet Syrian government are noted.

Today Syria is halfway to full-scale civil war. Excitements have extended on all territory of the country. The armed groups in ethnic communities and tribes are generated. The intellectual elite is shattered, and political leaders show disastrous indecision for a mode.

Problem of Asada not that it suppresses opposition, and that it does it slowly and uncertainly, trying to manoeuvre between requirements of the agents of national security who have been adjusted on rigid actions, and initiatives on carrying out of reforms which should calm protesting, having changed nothing as a matter of fact. Speaking simply, Asad tries to remain sitting on two chairs that was not possible still to any statesman in the history.

For all that the United Nations Security Council hardly will accept concerning Syria the same resolution, as across Libya. Russia and China have drawn conclusions from attempts of external intervention in the Libyan civil war and do not show desire again to walk twice into the same water. As power intervention in the Syrian disorders is improbable: it is necessary to be at war not only with Syria, but also with Iran

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October 1st, 2011, 1:54 pm

 

1008. Mina said:

Uzair,
You misunderstand me. I’m afraid you can’t call me manhibbak coz i have strictly NO sympathy for ANY government on this planet.
I am just being realistic, plus because some circumstances were that I was watching al Jazeera heavily from Christmas 2010 to end of February 2011, I have seen day by day and minute by minute the unfolding of the Qatari plan. And I certainly don’t trust Qatar and Qardawi (especially after THEY brought Qardawi into the Egyptian events while until then all the MBs and Salafis in Egypt had quietly stayed at home saying ‘no ibdaa’, ‘we’ll do like KSA would have it’).

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October 1st, 2011, 1:55 pm

 

1009. uzair8 said:

@1006 MINA.

Ok lets say you were not a Menhabek. This would mean, on account of posting the 1000th comment, that you became an honorary Menhabek.
A Menhabek posting the 1000th comment would have entered the hall of fame.

Anyway thats the end of that.

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October 1st, 2011, 2:01 pm

 

1010. Syria no kandahar said:

Albianoni statement about christians is his own imagination.Most of christians in Syria HATE MB deeply.MB is the cemetery of any hopes or inspirations Syrians have.Let us be honest and answer this question about the Arabic spring in general and in Syria especially: Would the US,the West,Isreal and Turkey Support Islamic States in the middle east if they know that they will be strong and successful democratic countries?is it in the best interest of the west to have a strong united,rich,democratic,powerful Syria?
The answer is definitely :NO.MB is the best guarantee that Syria will be weak,Islamic ,divided,un-secular.MB has had dark room agreements in the US .The US should no better that MB is going to be the Seeds of Alqaed in the middle east.US should be smart enough to know by now that Islamist extremist
And political Islam are like a nuclear reaction,once you start it,you loose control over it.Trying to apply the Turkish experiment to the Arab world is stupid,Turkey is still ruled by Atatork mind.

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October 1st, 2011, 2:05 pm

 

1011. qunfuz said:

Otrakji – stop whining about freedom of speech. it’s a term you and your murdering friends do not understand. you have just banned the best commenter here. more to the point, you are backing and propagandising on behalf of a traitorous regime which is murdering, torturing and chopping into pieces anyone who speaks against it, and many who aren’t even speaking. when there is a democracy in Syria, when the regime and its propagandists have been tried, then i will encourage all kinds of freedom of speech except for slander, racism and incitement to murder. how many menhebaks have been killed in Canada? how many menhebaks in syria have been killed by people tracking down their email addresses?

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October 1st, 2011, 2:06 pm

 

1012. Revlon said:

Thug One forces have committed a large scale massacre in AlRastan
- 15 school children are claimed to have been executed by Shabbeeha in cold blood next to a school, in retaliation for the killing of their fellow thugs on the hands of the FSA forces.
- Over 150 civilians have been killed and scores of houses were destroyed or set on fire.

AlFati7a upon their souls,
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with patience.

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October 1st, 2011, 2:11 pm

 

1013. Ghat Al Bird said:

AP @ 998.

These comments are probably more to your likin. Enjoy.

There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy.” Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

“The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more”…. Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time – August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

” [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs.” Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the Beasts”. New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

“The Palestinians” would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls.” ” Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

“When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.” Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

“We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” – Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

(Certainly the FBI’s cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)
” … we should prepare to go over to the offensive with the aim of SMASHING Lebanon, Trans-jordan and Syria… The weak point in the Arab coalition is Lebanon [for] the Moslem regime is artificial and easy to undermine. A Christian state should be established… When we smash the [Arab] Legions strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan, too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria, and Cairo.” ” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion,
A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” Israel Koenig, “The Koenig Memorandum”
Rabin’s description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. “We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters” Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion’s special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960.

From “The Arabs in Israel” by Sabri Jiryas.
“It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

“Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment… Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.” Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” — Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.” (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

As the proverb says, live and learn.

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October 1st, 2011, 2:26 pm

 

1014. Akbar Palace said:

Weid NEOCON-KHAZZAR Reptilian devil worshipers NewZ

1001. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

DAY 196 – 16,973 PRISONERS –DO SOMETHING PLEASE.

SNP,

Who exactly are you asking for help?

Are there any real Moslem blogging here, one that have compassion like his Allah, Alrahman Alrahim الرحمن الرحيم or just fake Mossad-CIA paid puppies threatening endless worthless crap no one read.

Are you surprised that Arabs allow (and have allowed) their governments to mistreat them? There are Arabs on this website that advocate for continued mistreatment of Arabs. Many of these Arab supporters believe Arabs need to be mistreated because it will help to defeat Israel. Do you believe that?

16, 973 are now in Assad prisons, the dead are moved to the lower astral, but those in prison are in real living hell. Where is Moslem Allah compassion for them, why no one ever talks about them or their misery? Could it be because like Libya, this Syrian Revolution is really a terrorist, destructive campaign by NEOCON-KHAZZAR Reptilian devil worshipers and few graduates of Guantanamo Islamic University de-programming/re-programming school of terrorism, all having an advanced degree in Terrorism and Virtual manipulation ( ALA 9/11) fake videos, fake witness, fake identity, hell… fake everything even calling themselves Moslem is fake.

SNP,

I confused, are you saying “16,973 are now in Assad prisons” is Assad’s fault or the fault of “a terrorist, destructive campaign by NEOCON-KHAZZAR Reptilian devil worshipers” (aka Jews)?

Thanks,

AP

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October 1st, 2011, 2:32 pm

 

1015. Mango said:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25000

America’s Next War Theater: Syria and Lebanon?
Washington’s War against the Resistance Bloc

by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya
Washington and its allies, Israel and the Al-Sauds, are taking advantage of the upheavals in the Arab World. They are now working to dismantle the Resistance Bloc and weaken any drive for democracy in the Arab World. The geo-political chessboard is now being prepared for a broader confrontation that will target Tehran and include Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and the Palestinians.

Tying Hezbollah’s Hands through External and Internal Pressure

In Lebanon, there is a deadlock in regards to the formation of a Lebanese government. Michel Sleiman, who holds the presidency and the new Lebanese prime minister have been delaying the formation of the cabinet in a political row with Michel Aoun, the leader of the Free Patriotic Movement.

It may be possible that the formation of a new Lebanese cabinet is being delayed deliberately to keep Lebanon neutralized on the foreign policy front.

The U.N. Security Council and several U.N. bodies are all being used by the U.S. and the E.U. to put pressure on Lebanon. U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon is taking his orders from Washington. He has contributed to providing legitimacy to the U.S. and NATO wars. Moscow has openly accused Ban Ki-moon of treachery for his 2008 secret dealings with NATO.

It is in this context that the U.N. is being used as a forum for insidious attempts to internationalize the issue of the weapons held by the Lebanese Resistance, with a view to disarming it. Despite the fact that U.N. Resolution 1559 is no longer relevant, the Special Representative for the Implementation of Resolution 1559, Terje Roed-Larsen, still remains active and issues reports against Hezbollah.

The envoys of the U.N. to Lebanon resemble colonial figures making uninvited edicts in Beirut and working as agents of Washington, Brussels, and Tel Aviv. The Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL), which has an entire division in the U.S. State Department, is also a loaded political weapon that Washington is planning on using against Lebanon and Syria.

An international tribunal was formed pertaining to the circumstances of the the assassination of Rafic Al-Hariri. Hariri at the time of his murder had no official state position, but an international tribunal has been created for his case alone. On the other hand the so-called international community has taken no interest in forming any type of tribunals to investigate the assassination of thousands of people killed in Lebanon. What does this say about the STL and the justice being sought?

The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) has also been complicit in Israeli violations against Lebanon. Even the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East (UNRAW) has been infiltrated with officials that are supportive of Israeli crimes against Palestinians and Lebanese. This was demonstrated by Christopher Gunness, the spokesperson of UNRAW, in a May 15, 2011 interview with the Israeli military. While Israel’s IDF was firing on unarmed civilian protesters during Nakba Day 2011, Gunness reaffirmed that UNRAW was working in the interest of Israel’s national security, while also accusing the Palestinians of committing terrorist acts against Israel. Even the Israeli siege of the Gaza Strip was whitewashed by the UNRAW spokesperson.

The absence of a new cabinet in Lebanon has also allowed Saad Hariri and the March 14 Alliance to continue having an ominous hand in managing Lebanon’s affairs. This also buys time for the STL, which can move forward without being challenged by a Lebanese government in Beirut that would be hostile to the STL. In this regard, a new government in Beirut would most certainly question to legitmacy of the STL.

Moreover, the Internal Security Forces (ISF) of Lebanon is also being used by Saad Hariri against Hezbollah and the political opponents of the Hariri family. The ISF may even have a hand in working against Damascus and helping promote violence in Syria. The ISF takes its orders directly from the Hariri family.

Because of the free hand given to Saad Hariri and his cronies (largely due to the absence of a functioning cabinet in Beirut), Ziad Baroud, the acting interior minister of Lebanon, has refused to sign any more papers from his ministry. Baroud has taken this position, because he believes that the ISF is acting covertly and without his approval or supervision. In this regard, the ISF has refused to follow the orders of Ziad Baroud to allow Charbel Al-Nahhas, the acting telecommunications minister of Lebanon, to enter ISF headquarters for a routine check. The ISF was clearly trying to hide its operations and was acting to prevent Al-Nahhas and his team from going to certain floors at ISF headquarters.

It is also no secret that Lebanon is a nest of intelligence agents and operatives from the U.S., the E.U., Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. Their objective is to confront and dismantle Hezbollah and its coalition.

In 2006, during the Israeli bombardment of Lebanon the embassies of E.U. members were also collecting data against Hezbollah. The Al-Sauds have helped facilitate the links between Israel and the network of spies in Lebanon. This is demonstrated by the clear link between Sheikh Mohammed Ali Hussein, the Shiite cleric caught working for Israel, and the Al-Sauds.

In tune with all this, Hezbollah is constantly accused of being an instrument of Iran. Recently, Hezbollah was blamed alongside Iran for stirring protests in the Persian Gulf, specifically in Bahrain and the Shiite-dominated areas of Saudi Arabia. In this regard Lebanese citizens, regardless of their faith in many cases, have also been singled out by the Khaliji regimes and expelled from the Persian Gulf. This is part of a sectarian card to create regional divisions and hate. Within Lebanon it has been used by the Saad Hariri faction to target Hezbollah and its allies. Hariri has ironically accused Iran of interfering in Bahrain at the very moment the Saudi military invaded the island-state to keep the Al-Khalifas in power.

The petro-sheikhdoms of the Persian Gulf are now systematically preventing Lebanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, and Pakistani citizens from entering their borders. Kuwait has justified this by saying that there could be trouble within Kuwait due to political instability in these countries.

Destabilizing Syria

Damascus has been under pressure to capitulate to the edicts of Washington and the European Union. This has been part of a longstanding project. Regime change or voluntary subordination by the Syrian regime are the goals. This includes subordinating Syrian foreign policy and de-linking Syrian from its strategic alliance with Iran and its membership within the Resistance Bloc.

Syria is run by an authoritarian oligarchy which has used brute force in dealing with its citizens. The riots in Syria, however, are complex. They cannot be viewed as a straighforward quest for liberty and democracy. There has been an attempt by the U.S. and the E.U. to use the riots in Syria to pressure and intimidate the Syrian leadership. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, and the March 14 Alliance have all played a role in supporting an armed insurrection.

The Al-Sauds have also helped drown out any authentic calls for democratic reform and marginalized the democratic elements in the Syrian opposition during the protests and riots. In this regard the Al-Sauds have supported both sectarian factions as well as terrorist elements, which question the foundations of religious tolerance in Syria. These elements are mostly Salafist extremists, like Fatah Al-Islam and the new extremist political movements being organized in Egypt. They have also been rallying against the Alawites, the Druze, and Syrian Christians.

The violence in Syria has been supported from the outside with a view of taking advantage of the internal tensions and the anger in Syria. Aside from the violent reaction of the Syrian Army, media lies have been used and bogus footage has been aired. Money and weapons have also been funnelled to elements of the Syrian opposition by the U.S., the E.U., the March 14 Alliance, Jordan, and the Khalijis. Funding has also been provided to ominous and unpopular foreign-based Syrian opposition figures, while weapons caches were smuggled from Jordan and Lebanon into Syria.

The events in Syria are also tied to Iran, the longstanding strategic ally of Damascus. It is not by chance that Senator Lieberman was demanding publicly that the Obama Administration and NATO attack Syria and Iran like Libya. It is also not coincidental that Iran was included in the sanctions against Syria. The hands of the Syrian military and government have now been tied internally as a new and broader offensive is being prepared that will target both Syria and Iran.

Syria and the Levantine Gas Fields in the Eastern Mediterranean

Syria is the central piece of two important energy corridors. The first links Turkey and the Caspian to Israel and the Red Sea and the second links Iraq to the Mediterranean. The surrender of Syria would mean that Washington and its allies would control these energy routes. It would also mean that the large natural gas fields off the Lebanese and Syrian coastline in the Eastern Mediterranean would be out of reach for China and would instead go to the E.U., Israel, and the U.S.

The Eastern Mediterranean gas fields have been the subject of negotiations between the E.U., Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. Aside from the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Pipeline, the existence of the Levantine natural gas fields is also the reason why the Kremlin has created a military foothold in Syria for the Russian Federation. This has been done by upgrading Soviet-era naval facilities in Syria. Moreover, it has been Iran that has agreed to explore and help develop these natural gas fields off the Levantine coast for Beirut and Damascus.

Hamas-Fatah Rapprochement

There is a strong correlation between war in Southwest Asia and increased talk at the official level about Palestinian statehood. Hopes of Palestinian statehood have been used twice to discharge pressure in the Arab World built from rising tensions from war preparations against Iraq. The first time was by George H.W. Bush Sr. and the second time by George W. Bush Jr., who was praised for being the first U.S. president to seriously talk about a Palestinian state.

Even as he flip-flops on his position, Obama is also now talking about a Palestinian state. Moreover, rapprochement between Hamas and Fatah has taken place as the count-down towards international recognition of Palestinian statehood begins. The Israelis have also released frozen funds to the Palestinians, which they refused to do before due to Hamas.

The rapprochement between Fatah and Hamas has also served to tie the hands of Hamas. Hamas will have to be careful not to effectively become a junior partner in governing Palestine under Israeli occupation. Hamas must effectively now modify its stance in its partnership in a unity government with Fatah. In all likelihood Tel Aviv and Washington will seek to impose Fatah as the senior partner of the Palestinian Authority. In a manner of speaking, Hamas is being domesticated indirectly by Israel and Washington.

Instability in Pakistan

The announcement that Osama bin Laden has been killed by U.S. forces has contributed to a process of covert political destabilization within Pakistan. There has been a calculated effort to present Osama bin Laden as a popular and venerated figure for Muslims. This is with a view of supporting the so-called “Clash of Civilizations.”

At the same time the U.S. government is starting a media campaign against Pakistan. Islamabad has been portrayed as harbouring Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda network. In reality any Pakistani involvement with terrorists has been ordered and directed by Washington. There is a much more complicated story to all this, but what is happening in reality is that Pakistan as a nation is being targeted for dismantlement.

The dismantlement and destabilization of Pakistan would serve three objectives:

1. Promoting a scenario of a war with Iran: Pakistan would not be under threat of a takeover by revolutionaries that would side with Iran and its allies.

2. The targetting of Chinese interests in Pakistan, including the energy corridor from Iran to China (and the Chinese port in Gwadar), which transits through Pakistan.

3. Regional destabilization in a key area of Eurasia where Southwest Asia, Central Asia and the Indian sub-continent meet. This area extends from Iran and Afghanistan to Pakistan, India, and Western China.
At the same time Washington also wants to neutralize the Pakistani nuclear program.

The U.S. has also announced that it has the right to violate the national boundaries of countries which harbour terrorists as well as send troops to these countries as part of the “war on terrorism.” Hillary Clinton has justified Washington’s stance by saying that U.S. forces would be assassinating terrorists. This is merely an opening door for creating a pretext for military intervention in countries such as Iran, where the Revolutionary Guards have been designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S., or Syria, where several exiled Palestinian groups have been designated as terrorist organizations by Washington.

Global Research Articles by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya

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October 1st, 2011, 3:09 pm

 

1016. Alex said:

I would appreciate it if we can wrap up the boring irrelevant topic of moderating. There are 3000 daily readers of this blog, most of them are really not interested in Alex banning Aboud for a week.

Few quick answers

1) Majedkhaldoun: I love humor. But most readers get offended by filthy language and violence is even worse. I was asked by many to try to bring Syria Comment back to its more mature form.

I will be adding a new poll to ask all of you to vote on three levels of moderation policy … mild, medium and strong.

That way, we will avoid forcing our own preferences on all.

2) Qunfuz … it would be ideal if you leave me alone, I do not wish to to hear you playing the role of the moral leader who tells everyone he sees below his highness how despicable they are. But you are of course free to continue to attack me if it helps you calm down.

3) Aboud: When you come back, post a clear request under your name to ask me to reveal what I know about you and I will do that. There is nothing dramatic, I have no idea who you are or where you live. All I know is related to something not very ethical that you did here on Syria Comment. If you want me to share it with others, I will … it is really no big deal, but you and your friends seem to be interested to know.

I saw in moderation a number of comments that seem to be by you, at least four of them (not two as you claim) are by you. two under the Aboud name, and two under your other names (same IP, same message more or less … different email etc). You tried to post again despite my ban … you tried different names, different emails .. your second IP …

3) Thank you Anton so much!

The poll will be up later today. Vote there please. This comment section is about Syria.

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October 1st, 2011, 3:10 pm

 

1017. Ghufran said:

ياسر العظمه حي يرزق

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October 1st, 2011, 3:27 pm

 

1018. sheila said:

Dear #957. Revlon,
Very funny. Good one Revlon. Did I ever tell you that I like your posts very much?. Even when you are poking fun at the Halabis.

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October 1st, 2011, 3:52 pm

 

1019. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

@1012. Akbar Palace

Akbar, I have better and deeper knowledge of your Hebrew history, very few so called “Jews” would have it this clear, not corrupted Reptilian programming one.

Jews?? Who are you referring to, there is not such a race of people. There are Israelites that came out, or better said, forced out, of Palestine / Canaan. These are not Jew; they are Israelites comprising 13 tribes.

Are you referring to the House of Judah as the Jews? Or you are just doing “the Programming” and lumping all as Jews?

Khazars who came out of Khazaria are not Israelites (Hebrew). Khazars are the worrier clan / class of southern Russia of today that raked havoc (genocide, rape, plunder and convoluted plots) on all the neighbors back then when they ruled Khazaria. They converted to Judaism religion from paganism and shamanism to confront Christian Byzantium. That does not making them part of the Israelites tribes anymore than a Palestinian convert to it. GOD promises of hope and deliverance is for ISRAELITES not KHAZZARS or Monkeys converted to Judaism. In fact, if you to read the bible, old and New Testament, you will ready a dire GOD Judgment, revenge and defeat is planned for them. My advice to you is to stay away from Khazzars, avoid them like a plague, unless you are one of them. At any rate, read the bible and save yourself from the God wrath that will befall them in the end.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:01 pm

 

1020. Abu Umar said:

927. Mohamed Kanj said:

Mr. fake mumaani’, why did Fashar’s grandfather collaborate with the French and praise the Zionists and blamed the Palestinians for refusing to become refugees in their own land? Why did they slaughter thousands of Palestinians and have a special dungeon for them in Damascus? Why did Hafez al-Jahsh collaborate with the Americans in Gulf War I? It’s ironic that your surname is Kanj as it was Bassam Kanj and a few hundred of his men who took on ten thousand Lebanese and Syrian soldiers. Those “mundasseen” will become a reality and you will remember the days of Ar’oor fondly.

938. Alex said:

What about the cyber-shabiha who were calling for a scorched-earth policy?! Do as I say not as I do?!

961. Alex said:

Everything you and your despicable regime are guilty of and do you think you’re cute with “Ara’eer”. There would have been an uprising, even if there was no Ar’oor. Why do you expect tens of thousands of Syrians to go their graves smiling so your regime can stay in power?

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October 1st, 2011, 4:02 pm

 

1021. Alex said:

Abu Umar … this is not my quote, and you misunderstood my original quote.

I am not totally pleased with the regime’s handling of the crisis and I am not fully pleased with the regime in its past or present form. But I am not impressed with the opposition and would like instead national dialogue between all Syrians so that each one would learn from his opponents about all the mistakes he or she committed. They all made mistakes.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:14 pm

 

1022. Tara said:

Ref: Ambassador Ford

His actions are giving hope to Syrians, and clearly frightening the regime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/opinion/robert-ford-americas-man-in-syria.html

Robert Ford, the United States ambassador in Damascus, is an exemplary and courageous diplomat. While President Bashar al-Assad of Syria and his henchmen have been slaughtering their people, Mr. Ford has been traveling the country, standing with the pro-democracy opposition and bearing witness to their sacrifice.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:29 pm

 

1023. tarek said:

Alex,

I do not know why you have to take the abuse that you get from Qunfuz,

Calling the people who support the government murderous is outrageous and encourage violence, I would ban him forever for saying that , respect of others is essential to make Syria better.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:35 pm

 

1024. DIGGING FOR GOLD IN BOSRA said:

Alex

What mistakes have the protestors made? What do you think of Assad’s response to the demonstrations? Let’s hear you.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:35 pm

 

1025. Tara said:

Tarek @ 1021

Murderous may be over the top.

Let’s be objective and call regime’s supporters using factual phrases: the regime killed 2700 civilians, tortured people, killed children and killed women. So avoiding an over the top names, take your pick:

Genocide supporters
Children killing’s supporters
Women killing’s supporter
Torture’s supporters.

Which one do you like the most?

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October 1st, 2011, 4:52 pm

 

1026. Abu Umar said:

“1019. Alex said:

Do you honestly think that the millions of Syrians who have tha’r against the regime will forget? Your statement seems delusional. The Bahraini gov’t is trying the same thing and it won’t work.

1021. tarek said:

Calling the people who support the government murderous is outrageous and encourage violence, I would ban him forever for saying that , respect of others is essential to make Syria better.

The Nobel prize for hypocrisy. Take your seat besides Abu Nifaq, Mjabali.

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October 1st, 2011, 4:55 pm

 

1027. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

“……..What mistakes have the protestors made?…..”

Allowed and placed themselves at the disposal of foreign operatives to be used as a front for sinister foreign plot, conspired overseas, with intended goal of dividing Syria according to conspirator plan in which Syria will lose its territorial integrity.

Received funding, accepted order and cash from those who organized them with links to foreign intelligence Agencies.

Received, held talks with foreign government ambassadors who their nation intelligence agencies are masterminding the seditious plot against the Syrian Nation.

Aiding and abetting of criminal seditious conspiracy that is divisive and detrimental to National interests and coexistence.

Willfully permitted, housed and provided safe houses for Islamic and Western backed terrorist cells and operatives connected to foreign intelligence agencies of enemy states.

Failed to turn in and or submit information to authority relating to sabotage units and cells that are committing rape, murder and destruction of property in Syria, operating under cover of protest.

Willfully fabricating news stories with intent to harm the Syrian Nation and existing recognized State, and receiving payout from foreign intelligence operatives disguised as Arabs, Palestinians or whoever, payout for fabricating videos to be sent to hostile News Media outlets of exceptional low integrity, for the sole purpose of raising sectarian strife in the nation and helping enemy states and conspirators achieve their goals.

Receiving and accepting orders from foreign Intel agencies agents to create Civil disobedience disturbances operating under the cover of discontent with Baath party rule, but in fact, it is to willfully destabilize the state and bring civil sectarian warfare.

Failure to halt of suspend activities that are well known to have been conspired by foreign agents and actually continue to implement those seditious orders even when truth and knowledge become public regarding the conspiracy and it is plans. Despite well document prove of terroristic action within ranks, they failed to cease and desist from disturbances until such action is stopped or hold further action until such a time when the conspiracy plan is nullified.

There is more……

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October 1st, 2011, 5:11 pm

 

1028. majedkhaldoun said:

Alex
can you elaborate more about the national dialogue you are proposing, knowing that the regime is using violent crackdown,and no dialogue can be done with the regime,who do you suggest the dialogue should be between?and how long the dialogue should take?as you know between Israel and palastinian it has been at least 25 years,with no progress.

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October 1st, 2011, 5:17 pm

 

1029. TRUE said:

To Otrakji the moderator not Alex the commentator,

Otrakji, please, don’t try to cheese the matter, playing a moderator means you should put your own personal feelings aside when it comes down to business and making forum-related decisions. Clearly you have failed in this aspect and expressed the symptoms of emotionally driven person who lacks objectivity in addressing serious concerns.

As a moderator you need to get yourself together and remember your tasks and duties, yes there are duties! Surely, using the moderator’s privileges, of accessing personal info, to liquidate individuals on this forum driven by personal drives and agenda i.e. jealousy & political stand is not one of them. All in all, Otrakji you’re a moderator who lacks neutrality and for sure the credibility is doubted with a big question mark.

Otrakji, you need to redeem yourself and offer your public apologies with a promise to get back on track as a moderator. Otherwise, show some dignity and step down as a moderator.

Make an Honorable Exit.

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October 1st, 2011, 5:24 pm

 

1030. jna said:

mina

re: “sub-commandante”

I was trying to be a little funny with the image. I’ll refrain from discussing the subject until he returns (if at all).

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October 1st, 2011, 5:24 pm

 

1031. TRUE said:

Joshua & Ehsani,

Letting Otrakji to continue playing the moderator on SC, with his current attitude and code of conduct, is exactly similar to ask ABOUD to be a moderator.

Not addressing our demand as (anti-regime group) of removing “Otrakji” as a moderator on SC would be a serious source of concern.

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October 1st, 2011, 5:26 pm

 

1032. zoo said:

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia shows his big heart
29.09.2011 | Source:
Pravda.Ru

The “great-hearted” King Abdullah bin Abdel-Aziz of Saudi Arabia overturned the court ruling against the woman, who dared to break the ban on female driving. The woman was sentenced to ten lashes for driving a car.

The woman, named as Shema, was found guilty of driving a car in the city of Jeddah in July. Saudi women are banned from driving in the country.

There is no official information to confirm the King’s decision to acquit the female driver yet. The news was revealed by Princess Amira al-Taweel, wife of billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. “Thank God, the lashing of Shema is cancelled. Thanks to our beloved king,” she tweeted, the BBC said.

The ban on female driving in Saudi Arabia touches upon both native and foreign women. Tens of women began to deliberately break the ban since July of 2011 in an attempt to lift the ban.

The Saudi King has recently surprised everyone when he gave the women the right to vote and be elected in municipal elections. This obviously became a historical decision for the monarch to make. The decision was made as a result of the talks with high-ranking representatives of the Muslim clergy, Vesti reports.

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October 1st, 2011, 5:39 pm

 

1033. Muhammad said:

SC rules:

Insulting the 1st shabih and his murderous family gets you a ban.

Taunting the opposition with the torture of their detainees and repeatedly insulting Islam gets you … pat on the shoulder.

Moderation my a***

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October 1st, 2011, 5:40 pm

 

1034. Muhammad said:

Since Aboud has been banned this forum is not half as good as it was. Considering how much effort Aboud put into this forum one wonders how could he be banned so easily. This is especially true when compared to one particular moderator who so far not bothered updating the main comment section even once.

If you want this forum to become a boring monologue then it is your choice. There is no lack of space for us opposition to express our ideas and we will simply go somewhere else. I’m fairly certain the forum will lose a lot of audience with the current “moderation” policy. You have an example in the current “National Dialogue” in Syria that no one really cares about. I have seen some stomach turning exchanges in one of them on Syrian TV. The whole dialogue is held in halls that have giant pictures of Besho (thanks Aboud). You have to wonder what exactly are we going to discuss then.

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October 1st, 2011, 5:59 pm

 

1035. zoo said:

#1031

A Blog survives by its commenters. If you want to kill it because you disagree with its administrators, just stop posting and move to another one that suits better you ideas.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:01 pm

 

1036. Jad said:

Dear Alex,
Why you even bother explaining? The previous moderator never give a reason for its actions, just ignore any stupid comment by the usual sectarian clowns of SC, if they want to write within the rules it’s fine if not it’s their decision, this is a public respected site that must keep the language standards high enough for all to read, those who disagree can go somewhere else and make their own blogs.
It’s ridiculous to read comments from two sectarians who insist on judging Syrians according to their religion/sect background to come and give us lecture about morality, have the minimum of what Alex show for the last 6 years then someone will listen to your fake disgusting whining. Truly pathetic!

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October 1st, 2011, 6:02 pm

 

1037. Tara said:

Alex

I don’t want to dwell on the issue of moderating and I agree with your call to move on. I do have a question though.

I don’t believe condemning public figures is a reason for banning. I am very much against personal attacks on SC posters. I am not with banning due to political opinion. Here is my question: Bashar is as hated personality as Ar’oor. Had a commentor made a similar statement that banned Aboud But just changed the name to Ar’oor and his wife, would he be banned?

Can the rule be clarified.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:03 pm

 

1038. tarek said:

Tara,

More than 700 members of the Syrian armed forces were killed by the revolutionary and their supporters,

Should call these revolutionaries
freedom fighters
or
murderers,
chose your pick.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:06 pm

 

1039. hope said:

Syria’s Universities: Breaking the Taboo of Talking Politics

By: Tarek Abd al-Hayy

Published Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Unlike years past, those returning to the classroom at Syria’s universities are now actively discussing politics, including heated debates about toppling the Assad regime .

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syria%E2%80%99s-universities-breaking-taboo-talking-politics

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October 1st, 2011, 6:07 pm

 

1040. Muhammad said:

I’m not going to dwell on the issue of moderating. I don’t get paid to post here and unless I feel there is a real exchange of ideas and a diverse audience then I will simply stop wasting my time. In fact, I already feel like I lost a lot of interest in this forum.

Banning Aboud was a mistake and a big one unless you want to turn this forum into another ejtema3 hizbi. I’m not going to mince my words and I think alex is a bad moderator and should leave.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:12 pm

 

1041. Tara said:

Tarek

Should people be slaughtered like sheeps or should they defend themselves. If an armed thug broke in your house and shot your child, do you offer the second child too or try to defend your family? One can argue that not defending your self or loved one if able to be morally unacceptable. Don’t you agree?

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October 1st, 2011, 6:12 pm

 

1042. TRUE said:

To Otrakji the moderator not Alex the commentator,

Otrakji, i say stop being dichotomous and just play fair. I do understand that your personal urge of omitting the presence of anti-regime commentators on SC is preventing you from complying with your ethics as a moderator. At the end of the day you’re a human and it’s quite normal to feel so, not all people including myself could separate their own desires from their duties.

To be honest, Otrakji for someone who have studied Applied Management at McGill University I’m quite surprised how you’re forgetting 1.0.1 of “Business comes first”

Just step down and come for “fair game” debate

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October 1st, 2011, 6:16 pm

 

1043. Tara said:

Muhamad

Your comment is valid and we are waiting clarification.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:16 pm

 

1044. LOUAI said:

ALEX

‘I am not totally pleased with the regime’s handling of the crisis and I am not fully pleased with the regime in its past or present form. But I am not impressed with the opposition and would like instead national dialogue between all Syrians so that each one would learn from his opponents about all the mistakes he or she committed. They all made mistakes’

Well put, it drives me crazy that no one in the world trying to understand this stand..
Accusing every one who stand against this revolution of being a regime supporter is the same as accusing all the revolutionaries of being salfis and paid for .

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October 1st, 2011, 6:21 pm

 

1045. tarek said:

Tara,

I agree with you , your thugs were and are attacking the army and the civilians , The army has to defend himself and the civilian population , so they fired back and your thugs lost their lives, so they should not have started the war that they know they can not win, there is still time, the president, the Baath party and the government can forgive them, the goal is to lead them to safety not to hell . .

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October 1st, 2011, 6:21 pm

 

1046. jad said:

Is this news right or fake?

علمت صحيفة سما سورية من مصادر موثوقة أن وحدات من الجيش العربي السوري تمكنت من إلقاء القبض على العقيد الفار”رياض الاسعد” والذي فر من عمله كضابط عامل في الجيش والقوات المسلحة ويعلن حركة عسكرية مسلحة والتي سماها بـ الجيش الحر تهدف إلى ضرب الأمن والإستقرار في منطقة جبل الزاوية…

وأفادت تلك المصادر لـسما سورية أن المدعو “الأسعد” سيحال إلى القضاء العسكري لينال محاكمة عادلة بعد التحقيق معه…

وكانت وحدات من الجيش العربي السوري قد قامت بعمليات نوعية في منطقة جبل الزاوية وجسر الشغور، حيث تمكنت من إلقاء القبض على العديد من المسلحين بينهم جنسيات عربية وبالأخص مصرية….

وواجهت قوات الجيش مجموعات مسلحة خارجة عن القانون لكن الأمر حسم لصالح الجيش، وقد تعاون بعض السكان في المنطقة وأقارب العقيد “الأسعد” مع الجيش لتسهيل مهمته في اعتقال الخارجين عن القانون…

والجدير ذكره ان المدعو “الأسعد” قد ترفع عسكرياً من قبل قنوات التضليل الإعلامي من عقيد إلى لواء في ظرف ثلاث أيام

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October 1st, 2011, 6:21 pm

 

1047. TRUE said:

To Otrakji the moderator not Alex the commentator,

Otrakji, why it was OK for you to question and demand actions from Obama’s campaign PR managers on November 25, 2008 (you know the missing country letter)? while on contrary you’re acting similar to those who do don’t acknowledge people and groups with equal rights.

That’s why i say you’re so blinded with your hatred to pro-regime commentators on SC

just step down and make everyone’s a favor.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:27 pm

 

1048. Tara said:

Tarek

You are now twisting the fact which makes me lose interest in continuing the conversation with you. There are thousands of proven authentic clips showing shabeehas and soldiers shooting unarmed demonstrators. Please refer to HRW publications.

Pairouz@ 375 from previous thread

Intelligent comment! I can’t take the credit though. It was True who posted the link to the public opinion not Tara. I agree with what you said and have no problem with a second opinion poll. Bashar does not let free press enter and would not let an overt opinion poll unless conducted by his Shabeehas.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:29 pm

 

1049. zoo said:

Jad

I agree with you, what a waste of time! Alex should just skip these ridiculous requests for ‘clarification’. Lot is happening in Syria to dwell uselessly on the emotional frustration and anger of some commenters who lost their favorite preacher! No one is irreplacable, don’t they know that! I am sure they can find an equivalent preacher on other blogs, if this is what they want.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:35 pm

 

1050. tarek said:

Tara,

Things are very chaotic in Syria that the truth can be shifting depending on who is reporting it, open your mind and play the devil advocate as things are not what they seem.

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October 1st, 2011, 6:43 pm

 

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