“Syria’s Assad regime is doomed, but the battle will be long and bloody,” by Joshua Landis

Syria’s Assad regime is doomed, but the battle will be long and bloody
Joshua Landis
For Bitterlemons
January 26, 2012 Edition 4

The Syrian regime headed by Bashar Assad is doomed in the long run, but is likely to last longer than most believe. In December, the leader of Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood stated that President Assad would fall “in the next few months”, the US State Department proclaimed Assad to be a “dead man walking”, and Israel’s defense minister insisted that Assad would fall in a matter of weeks. This has turned out to be wishful thinking.

The Assads stand atop the last minoritarian regime in the Levant and thus seem destined to fall in this age of popular revolt. When they do, the post-colonial era will draw to a final close. Following World War II, minorities took control in every Levant state thanks to colonial divide-and-rule tactics and the fragmented national community that bedeviled the states of the region. Unique in this was Palestine, for the Jewish minority was able to transform itself into the majority at the expense of Palestine’s Muslims and Christians. Neither the Christians of Lebanon nor the Sunnis of Iraq were so lucky or ambitious. Nevertheless, both clung to power at the price of dragging their countries into lengthy civil wars. The Alawis of Syria seem determined to repeat this violent plunge to the bottom. It is hard to determine whether this is due to the rapaciousness of a corrupt elite, to the bleak prospects that the Alawi community faces in a post-Assad Syria, or to the weak faith that many in the region place in democracy and power-sharing formulas. Whatever the reason, Syria’s transition away from minority rule is likely to be lengthy and violent. Levantine history suggests this as a rule.

There are three main reasons why the Assad regime is likely to last well into 2013–if not longer–despite Syria’s rapidly deteriorating economic and security conditions.

The first is the strength of the regime compared to the opposition. The military has not turned against Syria’s president. It is a professional army, which so far has a monopoly on heavy weapons in Syria. Important government officials have not defected in significant numbers. This loyalty is due in no small part to the fact that the Assad family has prepared for this moment of popular, Sunni revolt for 40 years. It has packed sensitive posts with loyal Alawis and Baathists. Some analysts estimate that 80 percent of Syria’s officer corps is Alawi. The main strike-forces, such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man. An ambassador in Syria’s Foreign Ministry recently claimed that 60 percent of Syria’s Foreign Service officers are Alawi and only 10 percent Sunni. The sectarian nature of the elite elements of the security forces ensures a high degree of loyalty and willingness to fight. The broader Alawi community is also likely to remain loyal to the regime, even as the economy deteriorates. Almost all Alawi families have a least one member in the security forces as well as additional members working in civilian ministries, such as education or agriculture. Most fear collective punishment for the sins of the Baathist era, whether this means trials, the loss of jobs, or even worse (one irresponsible Sunni sheikh threatened that the Alawis will be ground into mince meat when defeated).

The second reason the Assad regime is likely to survive into 2013 is the disorganization and factionalism of the opposition. Through much of 2011, the Syrian opposition hoped that by remaining leaderless, as had revolutionaries in Egypt and Tunisia, the regime could be brought down largely by peaceful means: either because Bashar Assad would surrender power, a coup would dislodge him, sanctions would cause elite defections and collapse, or growing demonstrations would achieve a Tahrir square moment. By the end of 2012, these scenarios seemed ever more unlikely, and the opposition has been forced to think seriously about developing a trusted leadership, unifying its ranks, and coming up with a realistic military option to defeat the Syrian army. These objectives still seem far off

The Syrian National Council, Syria’s leading opposition coalition, remains highly factionalized and has found it difficult to unite with other opposition parties. The mere fact that the SNC membership has felt compelled to limit its leaders to a three-month term testifies to the high level of internal dissent. Burhan Ghalioun, the capable and savvy secular leader, is distrusted by many Islamists in the SNC as well as younger activists who are leading the struggle on Syria’s streets. Only recently was he denounced by members of his own party for being a traitor and dictatorial when he prematurely announce a unification plan with the National Coordination Body for Democratic Change, a coalition of leftist parties led by Haytham Manaa.

Just as important as the opposition’s political weaknesses, however, are its military limitations. The Free Syrian Army being assembled in Turkey under the leadership of Colonel Riyadh al-Asaad is no match for the Syrian army. Although armed opponents of the regime are an important development, their size, structural limitations, lack of heavy weapons, and limited command and control mean they do not yet present a real danger or alternative to the Syrian military. In fact, many analysts insist that most fighting is being done by small units organized on the local level that do not take orders from Col. Asaad or other leaders, even if they call themselves members of the Free Syrian Army. What is more, many Syrians still do not accept the notion that the regime should be brought down by military means.

The third reason that the Assad regime is unlikely to be deposed soon is that foreign powers are not eager to intervene militarily in Syria. US President Barack Obama and European authorities would find it difficult not to support military strikes on the Syrian army if they were led by Turkey or the Arab League, but neither has shown an inclination to undertake such a risky adventure.

So long as the Syrian military leadership remains united, the opposition remains fragmented, and foreign powers remain on the sidelines, the Assad regime is likely to survive, but all three of these elements are changing, even if gradually, in the favor of the opposition. The predominant role of minorities in the governments of the region, which was universal at the end of the colonial period, is being brought to a violent conclusion.

-Published 25/1/2012 © bitterlemons-international.org
Joshua Landis is associate professor and director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma.

See the other three essays on Bitterlemons’ site

“The regime’s prospects are better than two months ago but remain dim,” Karim Emile Bitar

The Syrian revolution is now entering a new, more ominous phase. The regime has been considerably weakened and isolated. The Arab League’s mission has ended in a fiasco. The economy is in tatters. The opposition’s protests continue unabated. But the main pillars of President Bashar Assad’s support are still holding on. ….

A militarization of the revolution would empower the most radical elements, as it did in Libya, and render future democratization much more difficult. A foreign intervention would open Pandora’s box.

Those who would like Assad to fall are now confronted with the old Machiavelli vs. Kant philosophical dilemma: does the end justify the means or do the means determine the end? A comprehensive study, published by Columbia University Press and analyzing dozens of past cases, suggests that the latter is true. It indicates that if a dictator is overthrown through peaceful struggle, there is a 51 percent chance of a successful democratic transition after five years. In case of an armed struggle, the chances are only three percent.

The Syrian opposition is understandably impatient to bring Assad down and breathe freely. It should nonetheless meditate on these figures.

“Yes and no,” by Elias Samo

Can the Syrian regime survive? That is a question only a crystal ball can definitively answer. My analysis of the two primary components of the Syrian regime–a pyramidal political leadership under President Bashar Assad and a one-party political structure under the Baath party–leads me to believe the answer is “yes and no”. Yes, Assad will survive, and no, the political structure of one-party Baath rule will not….

“A sinking ship,” by Michel Nehme

Domestically, the mutiny in the Syrian army is slowly accelerating. It is beginning to pose a tangible threat to ! the military establishment, despite tight control by Baathist officers. The economy is gradually deteriorating–an indication of a long process that ultimately will topple the regime. The issue now is not whether the regime has been able to withstand or escape the storm, but rather the sense that the regime is slowly and daily getting weaker. Yet when it will finally collapse is not something that can be predicted, due to a variety of regional and international considerations….

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651. Aldendeshe said:

Do you know where can I buy MALBAN HALABI? I need it for upcoming wedding party between Majdkhaldoon and ANN.

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January 31st, 2012, 10:50 am


652. Revlon said:

الرستن 28 1 2012 بيان الجيش الحر أثناء العملية
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FSA fighter shows the extent of destruction by heavy tank shelling by outlawed Assad forces to residential and business properties in Rastan.
He announces the destruction of 7 armored vehicles and Tanks of outlawed Assad forces.

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January 31st, 2012, 10:53 am


653. majedkhaldoun said:

Me marrying Ann? Yak,I do not deserve this torture

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January 31st, 2012, 11:00 am


654. Revlon said:

رضوان زيادة
Radwan Ziyadeh, New York
نيويورك- رضوان زيادة- المجلس الوطني السوريhttp://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianNationalCouncil

اليوم كانت لنا ضمن وفد المجلس الوطني لقاءات مكثفة مع مندوبي الدول الدائمين في مجلس الأمن حيث التقينا مع المندوب الروسي السفير شوركين ثم السفيرة الامريكية رايس بعدها مع السفيرين البريطاني والفرنسي في محاولة للضغط لإمرار مشروع القرار للأسف لا استطيع القول اننا متفائل ون كثيرا فهناك تهديد روسي حقيقي باستخدام الفيتو بالرغم مما يجري من مجازر يومية في ريف دمشق وخاصة رنكوس وحمص وحماة مما نأمله ان تكون جلسة الأمن اليوم بحضور نبيل العربي ووزير الخارجية القطري فرصة أخيرة للضغط على روسيا لتغيير موقفها حيث سيحضر الجلسة وزراء خارجية امريكا وبريطانيا وفرنسا وغيرهم من أجل ممارسة كل الضغوط الممكنة على روسيا بعدها اي يوم الأربعاء ستكون هناك جلسة للمجلس على مستوى سفراء الدول للمفاوضات النهائية وغالبا سيكون هناك تصويت على مشروع القرار اما الخميس او الجمعة نريد التصويت هذا الاسبوع بكل الأشكال لان روسيا تتعرض لأكبر ضغوط

وبعدها اذا ما استمرت روسيا في موقفها في استخدام الفيتو لن يكون لنا إلا ان ننزع نظامنا المجرم بأيدينا ووحدنا
Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.
See Translation
26 minutes ago

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January 31st, 2012, 11:04 am


655. jad said:

It seems that a new version of the resolution is in the UN discussion

“تقديم مسودة جديدة لمشروع قرار بشأن سوريا في مجلس الأمن”.

Have you notice that France is in the back seat regarding the resolution, though it was the one who asked Morocco to presented? Why is that?
Even Jupee today he wasn’t as usual ‘wild’ he was more reserved and even defensive in his statement:
جوبيه يستبعد أي لجوء للقوة في سوريا ويحذر من حرب أهلية
استبعد وزير الخارجية الفرنسية ألان جوبيه أي لجوء إلى القوة في سوريا، محذراً من أن أي تدخّل خارجي في هذا البلد قد يقود إلى حرب أهلية.
وأشار جوبيه في حديث لـ محطة “أوروبا 1” الى ان “الأمور في سوريا تختلف عمّا حدث في ليبيا”، مضيفاً انه “على سبيل المثال في سوريا، هناك طوائف متعارضة وأي تدخل خارجي يمكن أن يؤدي إلى حرب أهلية”.
ورداً على سؤال عمّا إذا كانت هناك فرصة جديدة بأن “تتحرك” الأمور، أجاب “لست متأكداً للأسف. ما يحدث في سوريا فضيحة حقيقية ومنذ أشهر تستمر المذبحة رغم وجود المراقبين العرب الذين انسحبوا مؤخراً وهناك عشرات بل مئات القتلى أسبوعياً وهو أمر غير مقبول”.
وعن الوضع في مجلس الأمن، قال جوبيه: “نحن عالقون بسبب موقف عدد من الدول وخصوصاً روسيا التي تعارض مشروع القرار”، غير أنه تعهد ببذل كل الجهود الممكنة للوصول إلى وقف العنف في سوريا.
ونفى جوبيه، أن تكون بلاده تزود المعارضين السوريين بالأسلحة، وقال رداً على سؤال عن مصدر الأسلحة في يد ما يعرف بالجيش السوري الحر: إن “تهريب السلاح هو للأسف ظاهرة عالمية. وأقول للأسف لأننا لا نؤيد العنف”.

And now Turkey is barking at Russia through ‘twitter’…Saad has ‘followers’
كبير مستشاري اردوغان ينتقد روسيا بسبب مواقفها حيال سوريا

انتقد إبراهيم كاليم كبير مستشاري رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب اردوغان، روسيا لمواقفها حيال سوريا وشدد على ان روسيا تبعد نفسها عن العالم الاسلامي.
ولفت كاليم على صفحته على ” تويتر” أن “روسيا تحول العالم العربي والاسلامي ضدها بحجة حماية مصالحها في سوريا”.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:08 am


656. jad said:

“وبعدها اذا ما استمرت روسيا في موقفها في استخدام الفيتو لن يكون لنا إلا ان ننزع نظامنا المجرم بأيدينا ووحدنا
Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.”

What was Zibaleh and his terrorist friends doing all this time then? Kidnapping, Hanging, Slaughtering, Bombing, Shooting, Shelling, Spreading Sectarianism!!! what was all that about then. What a freak!
What more does this Zibaleh needs…Oh I see, he wants the NATO…..”ta3a l3na ya nato”….

With a new updated resolution that takes all Russia concern and without any threat whatsoever and without any sanctions or a forced regime change, Russia wont Veto and the resolution will be adopted…so…what next!?…NEGOTIATIONS…

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January 31st, 2012, 11:14 am


657. Revlon said:

حوار / «الموقف السعودي يقوّي ثورة الشعب… والمملكة خبيرة بالنظام السوري»
Saudi stance empowers the people’s Revolution; The Kingdom is expert in Syrian Regimematters.

صبرا لـ «الراي»: دول مجلس التعاون تستطيع لعب دور في تعديل السياسة الروسية
George Sabra to AlRai news Paper: GCC can play a role in tempering Russian foreign policy.

حوار / «الموقف السعودي يقوّي ثورة الشعب… والمملكة خبيرة بالنظام السوري»
صبرا لـ «الراي»: دول مجلس التعاون تستطيع لعب دور في تعديل السياسة الروسية
أكد عضو الأمانة العامة للمجلس الوطني السوري والقيادي في حزب الشعب الديموقراطي جورج صبرا ضرورة «تمكين مجلس الأمن من اجتياز الفيتو الروسي لحفظ أمان السوريين وحقهم في الحرية والكرامة»، مشيراً إلى أن المجلس «أقام اتصالات مع أطراف من المعارضة الروسية».

ودعا صبرا الموجود حالياً في فرنسا موسكو إلى «أن تضع في حساباتها معاناة الشعب السوري المستمرة منذ نحو عام»، مشدداً على أهمية دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي «في لعب دور مميز لتعديل السياسة الروسية ومواقفها»، ومنوهاً بالموقف السعودي «المتضامن مع الشعب السوري وقضاياه المصيرية».
«الراي» اتصلت بصبرا وأجرت معه الحوار الآتي:

• عشية طرح مشروع قرار حول سورية في مجلس الأمن، كيف تقارب الرفض الروسي لمشروع القرار الغربي – العربي؟ وهل ثمة معطيات يمكن أن تؤدي إلى تعديل موسكو لموقفها بما يضمن إمرار القانون؟
– إذا لم تكن هذه المعطيات موجودة، فيجب أن تتوافر، وإلا فما معنى السياسة، وأي دور يبقى لها؟ إننا في المجلس الوطني السوري نعلق آمالاً كبيرة على دور جامعة الدول العربية وعلى الدول العربية فرادى ومجتمعة وخصوصاً دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي، في لعب دور مميز لتعديل موقع السياسة الروسية ومواقفها. دون أن نتغاضى عن الدور الكبير المنوط بالمجتمع الدولي وقواه الفاعلة كالولايات المتحدة وأوروبا في مهمة كهذه. إنها مسؤولية أممية سياسية وإنسانية في الوقت نفسه. لا بد من فتح مجلس الأمن الدولي لاتخاذ قرارات تحمي الشعب السوري من عمليات القتل اليومي المستمرة منذ أحد عشر شهرا متواصلاً.

• المبادرة العربية التي تبناها مشروع القرار الغربي طالبت بتنحي الرئيس بشار الأسد. هل الاتصالات الأميركية – الروسية يمكن أن تؤدي إلى تخطي هذه الثغرة تحديداً؟
– مَن يستطيع أن يتخيل رئيساً يستمر على رأس السلطة في بلاد أوقع فيها هذا الحجم من المجازر الجماعية والجرائم ضد الإنسانية؟ وما زال حتى اليوم يستمر نظامه باتهام شعبه بالضلوع في مؤامرة دولية، وكذلك لم يتوان عن اتهام الدول العربية بالمشاركة في ما يسميه المؤامرات الخارجية عليه. نأمل أن تضع السياسة الروسية في حساباتها الشعب السوري ومعاناته المستمرة منذ نحو عام، فالسوريون يتعرضون لقتل يومي، ويعانون منذ خمسة عقود من نظام قمعي واستبدادي وإرهابي، حوّل حياتهم جحيماً وحوّل سورية مملكة للخوف والموت. ونشدّد على ضرورة بذل ما يتوافر من جهود لتمكين مجلس الأمن من اجتياز الفيتو الروسي لحفظ أمان السوريين وحقهم في الحرية والكرامة، وحفظ الأمن والسلام الإقليمي والدولي.
• كقيادي في حزب الشعب الديموقراطي السوري، هل لديكم اتصالات مع القيادة الروسية؟ وهل نقلتم وجهة نظركم عن الأزمة السورية إلى موسكو؟
– أقمنا باسم المجلس الوطني اتصالات مع منظمات المجتمع المدني الروسية، ومع الكنيسة الروسية ذات الأهمية الخاصة والدور التاريخي، ومع أطراف من المعارضة يمكن أن تهتمّ بالسياسة الروسية الدولية. غير أن هذا الشكل من التواصل ما زال في مرحلته الجنينية، ونأمل أن يتطور لما فيه خير الشعبين والدولتين الآن وفي المستقبل. وسنستمر في بذل الجهود المطلوبة، فقضيتنا مهمة وخطيرة، وثورة شعبنا تستحق العناء والتجاوب وبذل الجهود.
• عدد الضحايا في سورية يرتفع بشكل ملحوظ منذ أن قرر النظام المضي في الحسم الأمني ومنذ أن حددت جامعة الدول العربية خريطة طريق للأزمة السورية. إلى ماذا سيؤدي الخيار الذي اتخذه النظام في الحسم الأمني؟
– يعتقد النظام أنه يتمتع هذه الأيام بمهلة واقعية تعطيه إياها العطالة المؤقتة للمشاريع السياسية. فقد أوقف برفضه، المبادرات العربية، وما زالت السياسة الروسية الحليفة له تعطّل مجلس الأمن وتحول دون صدور ما يشجب أعمال النظام ويعمل على وقفها. والخوف الكبير أن يقود عنف النظام الأعمى والمنفلت من أي قيود إلى أخذ سورية إلى حافة جديدة من الخطر، تؤثر على الوحدة الوطنية للشعب والسلم الأهلي لأن النظام يفتعل معارك جانبية ويقوم بارتكابات ذات صبغة طائفية تستهدف جر الأطراف الشعبية إلى الردّ بنفس الوسيلة، لتشويه سمعة الثورة وجرها إلى منزلق أبت أن تسقط فيه طوال عمر الثورة. وبالتالي سيكون ذلك خطراً ليس على سورية والسوريين فحسب، إنما على مجمل الأمن والاستقرار في المنطقة.

• أعربت بعض القيادات في المجلس الوطني السوري عن استعدادها لتقديم المال والمعدات لـ «الجيش السوري الحر». ما رأيك في ذلك؟ وهل تتخوف من مساهمة حركة الانشقاقات في اندلاع حرب أهلية؟
– المجلس الوطني يدعم الجيش السوري الحر كونه من مرتكزات الثورة السورية، ويلعب دوراً مهماً في استمرار الثورة والحفاظ على سلميتها. الدعم سيكون سياسياً ومادياً ولوجستياً لتغطية الحاجات اليومية للجنود والناس المحيطين بهم. حركة الانشقاقات عن النظام ستزداد، وعلى عكس ما يتخيل البعض سيكون ذلك عنصر ضمان ضد أي شكل من الحرب الأهلية. لأنه يحمي الشعب والمتظاهرين من أعمال القتل، ويحول دون أن تخرج البنادق عن آليات الضبط والربط لمصلحة الثورة وبإدارة قواها، وبخدمة الخط السياسي للثورة ومن أجل تحقيق أهدافها. وهو جيش لكل السوريين دون استثناء ودون تمييز.

• إلى أين ستتجه الأزمة السورية في حال أصرت موسكو على خيارها بدعم النظام السوري؟
– في الداخل ستتجه نحو الحسم والاعتماد على الله وعلى القوى الذاتية للشعب من قوى الثورة، ونحو مزيد من الدموية والإجرام من النظام. وعلى الصعيدين العربي والدولي، فليتحمل المسؤولون عن تعطيل الحلول وزر الدم السوري المراق اليوم ومواقف الشعب السوري الغاضبة في المستقبل.

• كيف تقارب الموقف السعودي الجديد من الأزمة السورية؟
– ليس غريباً علينا الموقف السعودي المتضامن مع الشعب السوري وقضاياه المصيرية. والمملكة التي تتحمل مسؤوليات خاصة ليس في منطقة الخليج وحدها وإنما في العالم العربي من أقصاه إلى أقصاه، خبيرة جداً بالنظام السوري، وقد عانت طويلاً من العلاقة الصعبة معه. ونعتقد أن الموقف السعودي يقوي موقف الشعب وثورته سياسياً في الجامعة العربية وفي الأمم المتحدة وباتجاه تعزيز المجلس الوطني أيضاً. دون أن نهمل الدور السعودي المرتقب والمميز بشأن جهود الإغاثة المطلوبة للمدن السورية المنكوبة بفعل الحرب المعلنة على الشعب في مختلف المحافظات السورية. باختصار هو تقدم ملموس ودفعة طيبة النتائج لملف الثورة السورية والقضايا التي تطرحها.

• هل سحب الوفود الخليجية من بعثة المراقبين العرب يعني أن دول الخليج حسمت موقفها بضرورة ذهاب النظام السوري؟
– هو ذلك في أحد وجوهه الواضحة. وتبدى ذلك بوضوح من خلال المبادرة العربية التي رفضها النظام وتنص على تخلي رأس النظام عن صلاحياته لنائبه من أجل تسهيل التعامل مع النظام وترتيب أمور الحل. وفي ذلك اعتراف ضمني بأن النظام كما هو عليه الآن لا يصلح للعلاقة. ومَن كان من أسباب الأزمة لا يكون من عوامل الحل. ويشير كذلك إلى أن مهمة المراقبين وصلت إلى نهايتها وأوفت بأغراضها، فكل شيء صار واضحاً بالنسبة إلى ما يجري داخل سورية.

• هل صحيح ما أشارت إليه بعض التقارير بأنك من الممكن أن تأتي رئيساً للمجلس الوطني السوري بعد برهان غليون الذي ستنتهي ولايته في 15 فبراير؟
– ما هو أكثر أهمية ممن يأتي رئيساً للمجلس، هو الوقفة الجدية المطلوبة من هيئات المجلس ومؤسساته ومكاتبه. المشكلة ليست في مَن يحتل موقع الرئاسة، بل في كيفية إدارة الأمور والطريقة التي تُتخذ فيها القرارات ويجري تنفيذها. والمسؤولية في ذلك تتجاوز موقع الرئاسة لتطال الجميع في الأمانة العامة والمكتب التنفيذي. المطلوب نهج جديد وطرق عمل جديدة وإيقاع جديد يتناسب مع متطلبات المرحلة وحاجات الداخل السوري. يتم اختيار رئيس المجلس بشكل توافقي بين المكونات السياسية للمجلس، فالجميع مرشحون، ومَن يحصل على هذه التوافقات ببساطة سيكون رئيساً للمجلس. هذا هو التوافق من البداية وما تنصّ عليه اللائحة الداخلية لعمله.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:20 am


658. ann said:

Clinton Snubbed by Russian Counterpart – January 31, 2012


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is a hard man to reach these days—especially if you’re Hillary Clinton.

The U.S. Secretary of State tried for twenty-four hours to get Mr. Lavrov on the phone to discuss a draft resolution on Syria, with no luck, according to the transcript of a State Department briefing.

Britain, France and the U.S. plan to make their strongest effort yet to push through a draft resolution calling for Syrian President Bashir Assad’s resignation. At least 5,400 people have been killed in the country’s 10-month long crackdown on protestors.

Mr. Lavrov, who was in Australia when Mrs. Clinton was trying to reach him, has a perfectly good explanation: He was too busy to take the call.

Mrs. Clinton’s phone call came “at the height of meetings with our Australian partners,” Russian news agencies quoted him as saying. “It is not in the Russian diplomatic tradition … to offend those with whom we have had long-scheduled meetings.”

Mr. Lavrov appeared to disparage the State Department’s notions of etiquette when asked why the State Department said it couldn’t reach him for so long.

“Probably, it is a question of manners,” he said.

The conversation with Mrs. Clinton will take place “at the first possible opportunity,” Mr. Lavrov said.

But he also hinted that such things may be better resolved at a lower level.

“Basically, the ambassadors are sitting there in a room and reviewing the text. To call the other end of the world in order to discuss the placement of commas and such may not be the best method,” Mr. Lavrov said.

He said Tuesday that while Russia was “neither a friend nor an ally” to Syria, Moscow would not support calls for President Assad’s ouster.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:23 am


659. Tara said:


I see it the other way around.  If a UNSC resolution is passed in the next few days, it will drastically weaken Bashar al Assad’s position who will be then inclined to agree to peaceful transition of power under the supervision of his VP.  This would
ensure the preservation of worthy institutions.

If on the other hand, Russia vetoes the resolution, a civil war is inevitable as the Syrian people have already reached a point where their revolution can no longer be “pacified” if you will.  A civil war will end with the victory of the majority and the potential appearance of war lords who may crush their opposition.

Bashar al Assad must vanish from the picture if the Syrian unity be preserved.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:26 am


660. Revlon said:

موقع أخبار الشرق – الثلاثاء، 31 كانون2/يناير 2012 04:21 بتوقيت دمشق

سورية اليوم – سياسة

دعا “اتحاد تنسيقيات الثورة السورية” الى انشاء “لجان شعبية محلية” لحماية المناطق السكنية، والى “استخدام كل الوسائل المتاحة للدفاع عن النفس من الابادة” التي يقوم بها النظام السوري في ظل “تخاذل” المجتمعين العربي والعالمي، بحسب ما جاء في بيان صادر عنه اليوم الاثنين.
Local Coordination Comittees call for establishment of Local Cmittees for self defense in the face of ongoing etermination by regime forces and watchful stance of international community.
Monday 31/01/2012

و”التنسيقيات” عبارة عن تجمعات محلية خاصة بكل منطقة في سوريا تنشط منذ بدء الاضطرابات في تنظيم الاحتجاجات على الارض ونقل ما يجري الى الخارج.
وجاء في البيان الذي تلقت وكالة فرانس برس نسخة منه “على جميع التنسيقيات تشكيل لجان شعبية محلية لحماية المناطق السكنية والحفاظ على الممتلكات العامة من هجمات العصابات الأسدية التي تنشر الفوضى في كل مكان”.
ورأى الاتحاد انه “بات من حق الشعب السوري الطبيعي مع كل هذا التخاذل العربي والدولي استخدام كل الوسائل المتاحة أمامه للدفاع عن نفسه أمام عمليات الابادة التي يتعرض لها على يد العصابات الأسدية”.

كما اكد ان “الجيش الحر هو الذراع العسكري للثورة السورية وعلى عاتقه تقع مهمة حماية المدن وحماية المظاهرات السلمية”.
FSA has become the military arm of the civilian Syrian Revolution.

وتحدث البيان عن “حملة عسكرية مسعورة تشنها عصابات الأسد على معظم المدن والمناطق السكنية العزلاء مستخدمة اقصى درجات الإجرام من قتل وتنكيل وقصف وقنص واعتقالات وفرض حظر للتجول ومحاصرة المدن واغلاقها”.
واضاف ان “المجتمع الدولي ومجلس الأمن والجامعة العربية اداروا ظهورهم لمعاناة الشعب السوري وأغمضوا عيونهم وجمدوا ضمائرهم عن عمليات الابادة التي تقوم بها يد الإجرام الأسدي”.
وتصاعدت خلال الساعات الماضية اعمال العنف في سوريا لا سيما في منطقة ريف دمشق واسفرت الاثنين عن سقوط 27 قتيلا على الاقل بينهم 21 مدنيا كما قال المرصد السوري لحقوق الانسان من لندن.
وناشد المجلس الوطني السوري المعارض في بيان وسائل الاعلام الدولية التحرك في اتجاه بلدة رنكوس (40 كلم شمال دمشق)، متخوفا من “مجزرة كبيرة” و”عملية تصفية يقوم بها النظام” بعد ان سيطر على البلدة.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:32 am


661. jna said:

Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.

It’s probably a bad translation but I doubt that “extricate the regime” is what he really meant.

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January 31st, 2012, 11:49 am


662. Mina said:

SNC blacklisting “pro-regime” churches?
“Ahead of the UN meeting on the Syrian crisis, the Syrian National Council urges mosques and churches to back the call for ‘day of mourning and anger’ with prayer calls and ringing bells across the country
AFP , Tuesday 31 Jan 2012”

As the guys who hijacked the Tahrir protests and made a career clash with the guys who made the revolution,
Ban Ki Moon’s sole idea is to send a prayer to God in heaven
“UN chief Ban Ki-moon calls for ‘goodwill gestures’ by Israel to revive the peace process with the Palestinians after meeting with Jordanian leaders
AFP , Tuesday 31 Jan 2012”

Allah yahdihum…

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January 31st, 2012, 11:49 am


663. Aldendeshe said:

Well I am not marrying her, she is over 26, in women age, that is entering the Mezzo-Petrified period, where they just petrify the hell out of you daily, and Anthropologists at Harvard determined that this period extend until the next women shows up at the front door. But to whom it may concern, I got it, thanks.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:04 pm


664. jad said:

Haytham Manna
قناة دبي الفضائية: الدكتور هيثم مناع

re:“لجان شعبية محلية”
How much violence and blood those criminals want, isn’t it enough that we have too many armed militias already doing the killing and promoting violence some of them are Alqaeda followers to add more weapons and more military men and children to the already volatile situation…
Go to hell to whoever comes with such criminal plans of militarizing the whole society for no reason but to see more Syrian blood spelled.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:20 pm


665. Revlon said:

A new Battalion arrived in Rastan today to support KIW Brigade
الرستن 31 1 2012 بيان وصول كتيبة رجال الله المسقلة وأشقاق ضباط عدد2~1

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January 31st, 2012, 12:21 pm


666. ann said:


“Syria opposition” Warns Iraq Over Arms Shipment To Assad Forces


The Iraqi government of Nouri al-Maliki has recently allowed the passage of Iranian arms through its territory to Syria in order to support the Syrian regime against its opponents, reports claim. Meanwhile, the Syrian opposition gave Maliki’s government two weeks to change its position before declaring it as a partner in the war against the Syrian people.

“the Organization for Rescuing Democratic Syria ” (a faction of the “Syrian opposition”) 😀

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January 31st, 2012, 12:22 pm


667. Juergen said:


i dont share each view when i post it. I do not like this old testamentarian view if you kill us we will kill you. i do think that at any stage we should not loose our humanity even for those who have shown no humanity to their victims. If youd asked me some months ago, i would have said let him and his junta be tried in Den Haag. Now I would say let him be tried in Syria under syrian law, i believe without knowing the syrian code of law high treason is punished with the death penalty. I dont know if Asmaa has done something worth to be tried, morally surely she is guilty. I am sure if Eva Braun the late wife of Hitler would have survived the war she would have faced imprisonment. They had and still may have the chance to leave the country, but if they stay and remain they are in danger.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:25 pm


668. Juergen said:

I wonder what that is to name each other donkeys and dogs (Edited for personal attack)

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January 31st, 2012, 12:26 pm


669. Mina said:

It makes things easier when you’re a member of the Saudi royal family. Could foreign journalists tell us what are these Saudis in Iraqi jails accused of? It seems like too dangerous to write…

Report: Saudi Arabia seeks swap for royals on Iraqi death row

Jan 30, 2012, 9:05 GMT

Baghdad – Efforts to implement a Saudi-Iraqi prisoner exchange have taken on extra urgency after it became known that three people facing the death penalty in Iraq are members of the Saudi royal family.

Saudi Arabia has been pushing for the exchange of the six Saudi nationals, reported an Iraqi state-run newspaper on Monday.

Iraqi Lawmaker Kamila al-Moussawi told the al-Sabah newspaper that three of the six Saudi nationals currently on death row are members of the royal family.

Saudi Arabia’s royalty, the Al Saud family, is composed of thousands of members, though power rests with descendants of Saudi Arabia’s founder, King Abdul-Aziz.

‘Saudi Arabia seeks a deal with the Iraqi government to exchange them with convicted Iraqis inside the kingdom,’ said al-Moussawi, of the National Alliance, led by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Al-Moussawi’s announcement came a few days after Saudi newspaper Al Eqtisadiya reported that the proposed deal would cover 113 Saudi prisoners in Iraq, including six on death row, and 138 Iraqi prisoners in Saudi Arabia, of whom 11 are facing execution.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:28 pm


670. ann said:

*** US spy chief says Syria’s Assad will die of old age 😀 ***


“I personally believe it’s a question of time before Assad falls, but that’s the issue, it could be a long time,” Clapper said at a Senate intelligence committee hearing.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:29 pm


671. ann said:

Give Syrians a say – Jan 31, 2012


It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible. That’s how Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov commented on a statement by the Syrian opposition abroad, which demands President Bashar Assad’s resignation as a precondition for entering talks with Damascus.

On Monday, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced that the Syrian government had accepted an invitation to hold talks with Syrian opposition representatives in Moscow. A similar invitation had been sent to the Paris-based Syrian National Council (SNC), a leading Syrian opposition group outside Syria. On Tuesday, the Lebanese An-Nahar newspaper published an interview with SNC leader Burhan Ghalioun, who says that there will be no talks unless Assad steps down and that only if Moscow changes its stance on the issue will the SNC send its delegation to the Russian capital.

The SNC’s reply caught Sergei Lavrov in Sidney. Commenting on the SNC leader’s statement, he pointed out that Russia had never demanded that power should remain exclusively in Bashar Assad’s hands and that there were other things that kept worrying Moscow.

“The refusal to sit down for talks with representatives of the regime. What is the alternative to finishing off the regime? If one urges Assad to go and he fails to do so, what should one do – bring aircraft in and bomb? We have already seen that. And I assure you that the UN Security Council will never approve it. One should approach this a bit more realistically. Unfortunately, the opposition sticks to a different stance some outside players have been pushing it towards.”

UN sources claim that more than 5,000 people have been killed in clashes between Syrian government forces and opposition protesters since last March. The government says that Syrian soldiers and policemen account for a large number of the deaths. Ongoing clashes have prompted the League of Arab States (LAS) to suspend its observer mission in Syria. Earlier, the League called on Bashar Assad to resign and hand over power to a transitional government. But Damascus predictably rejected the offer.

If the West and the Syrian opposition really want peace in Syria, their persistence in urging the president to step down hardly makes any sense. Bashar Assad is implementing reforms as he had promised earlier, and considering the date for early elections, analyst for the Institute of Oriental Studies at the Russian Academy of Sciences, Alexander Filonik, said in an interview with the VoR:

“The crisis in Syria will remain unsettled until members of the radical opposition, who are staying outside Syria, revise their attitude to Bashar Assad. Actually, their demands are absolutely ungrounded: since the regime is quite legitimate, it is backed by the majority of the Syrian population. Probably, Assad`s independent policy annoys somebody in Europe, in US or in some Arab countries.”

Later on Tuesday the UNSC is expected to discuss a draft resolution endorsing the Arab League plan, which calls for President al-Assad to step aside as a way to resolve the crisis. Previous drafts were vetoed by Russia and China. Moscow opposes the new version as well, saying that it won`t help the opposing sides reach a compromise, while lobbying this resolution might just leave Syria on the brink of a civil war.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:34 pm


672. Revlon said:

Khaled Aboud to Addunia:
– Scores of Qatari targets/Factories shall not escape Syrian missile strikes.

– Certain US-sponsered Qatari factories are within range of Syrian missiles. This is the earthquacke that B Assad talked about a while ago!

المجنون خالد عبود يهدد دولة قطر بقصف معاملها بالصواريخ السورية الموجهة اليها

The regime is losing it big!

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January 31st, 2012, 12:39 pm


673. Revlon said:

658. jna:
((Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.

It’s probably a bad translation but I doubt that “extricate the regime” is what he really meant))

You are right!
I meant extract!
Like a decayed tooth!
Thank you for the note.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:48 pm


674. Aldendeshe said:

@662. jad :

Blame Bashar Assad, not the one that are seeking own freedom from serfdom to a Socialist mafia. These people have nothing to lose at all, the (Edited for sectarian comments) and Baath driven them to this bottom line option and desperation, death is even better than living in a hell called Baathist Syria. Bashar is not a National Leader, he has proven to be a puppet for a mafia that driven Syria to eaquate with Somalia.

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January 31st, 2012, 12:55 pm


675. Aldendeshe said:

“….It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible….”

I am for 2 hands and 2 feets up for that, lets have a U.N. resolution passing and monitored to insure fair vote.

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January 31st, 2012, 1:02 pm


677. ann said:

673. Aldendeshe said:

“….It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible….”

I am for 2 hands and 2 feets up for that, lets have a U.N. resolution passing and monitored to insure fair vote.
UN election monitors don’t need a UN Security Council resolution to monitor and insure fair elections in Syria

Welcome back to real freedom and real democracy!

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January 31st, 2012, 1:10 pm


678. jad said:

My post wasn’t about ‘blame’ it was about taking the country toward chaos through ignorant or planned strategies. We can blame Bashar as much as we want but we have to have the choice not to follow the wrong way.
The call to burn down the whole country and destroy our social fabric and our Syrian diversity through killing each others and make Syria another failed state as those idiots are asking, is wrong.
While on it, may I ask you a personal favor, could you please tone down your sectarian language against Shia, why not to use the country name instead of demonizing the whole sect, that is not what we need right now. No?

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January 31st, 2012, 1:10 pm


679. majedkhaldoun said:

No one will marry (Edited for personal attack)

“morally surely she is guilty”
I don’t agree,she is (Edited for personal attack, hateful language)

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January 31st, 2012, 1:18 pm


680. Son of Damascus said:


The use of the word extricate is correct in your sentence.

According to the Oxford dictionary the definition is:

Free from constraint or difficulty.

In every sense of the word Besho and co. are a constraint that needs to be extricated.

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January 31st, 2012, 1:19 pm


681. Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Where is Farouk al Sharaa?
If you saw him during the last 11 months, please raise your hand.

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January 31st, 2012, 1:23 pm


682. ann said:

648. Aldendeshe said:

Do you know where can I buy MALBAN HALABI? I need it for upcoming wedding party between Majdkhaldoon and ANN.

650. majedkhaldoun said:

Me marrying Ann? Yak,I do not deserve this torture

676. majedkhaldoun said:

No one will marry her, when I think of her I have a picture of Dracula,big teeth in a big thin mouth,long sharp nose, and huge ears,with her hands up and sharp long nail.she talk about donkey,rat and ghoul……I will have nightmares tonight.
I understand and respect (Edited for personal attack)

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January 31st, 2012, 1:24 pm


683. Juergen said:

I think a moderator should edit what Ann just said to Aldenshe.


I know a niece of him with the same family name here in Berlin. I will ask her where he is, some rumors occured that he is with the revolution, but i think that is just wishful thinking.


I respect that you think she is innocent and a bird in the cage, after all the atrocities this regime has done( and many we dont kn ow of yet) i am sure the word innocence is not suitable even for her, but surely for the children.
But if you spare her out of the dirty game, why not Besho himself? Its kind of this game they always play, in this case if only Asmaa would know what is going on here… to me its an idolisation of her.

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January 31st, 2012, 1:39 pm


684. jad said:

It seems that your GAY comment hit a nerve, the irony is that Jurgen comments today have one theme, let’s attack Asma and call for her execution out of ‘humanitarian’ reasons.

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January 31st, 2012, 1:55 pm


685. irritated said:

The warmongering commenters are so frustrated that they have to attack personally someone to relieve their tensions. Asma, Ann are now the targets of their nasty comments.
It shows very well the quality of the people who wants to take the power in Syria: Merciless, misogynous and sadistic.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:05 pm


686. irritated said:

#668 Juergen

Now Asma al Assad is Eva Braun, and Bashar is Hitler!

Typical (Edited for racist comments and personal attack. Please refer to the Syria Comment Rules)

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January 31st, 2012, 2:10 pm


687. majedkhaldoun said:

Even Bashar i do not call for his execution, I believe he has to return ALL the money he stole from Syrians, and I dont believe in jail either,humilliation all the rest of his life is enough, only God has the right to take life away.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:12 pm


688. ann said:

685. jad said:

It seems that your comment hit a nerve, the irony is that Jurgen comments today have one theme, let’s attack Asma and and call for her execution out of ‘humanitarian’ reasons.
They see the writing on the wall and they don’t like it 😉

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January 31st, 2012, 2:12 pm


689. zoo said:

No more Israel travel for iraqis

Iraqi bill to ban travels to Israel

Iraqi parliament plans to pass bill forbidding locals from visiting Israel, after nine Iraqi politicians were allegedly caught carrying entry visas to Israel, passports with Ben-Gurion Airport stamps


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January 31st, 2012, 2:14 pm


690. jad said:

A strange statement by The UN Commission on Human Rights, it is asking the Syrian government to stop the killing and at the same time is asking for the opposition to be careful of not to ‘waste’ lives for no reason!! (Stay peaceful and avoid the army and the armed militias)
Regarding the victim numbers: the commission doesn’t update the numbers because they don’t have the ability to verify the numbers they are getting from 5-6 different organizations. (could that be related to the tainted Rami)

مفوضية حقوق الإنسان تحث السلطة السورية على وقف قتل المدنيين

حثّت المفوضية السامية لحقوق الإنسان التابعة للأمم المتحدة، السلطات السورية على وقف قتل المدنيين.
وحث المتحدث باسم مكتب المفوضة السامية روبرت كولفيل المعارضة على “الإلتزام بأقصى درجات الحيطة وضمان عدم وقوع قتلى من دون داعٍ”.
ورأى أن “الأوضاع على الأرض أصبح من الصعب التحقق منها خلال الأسابيع الأخيرة لذلك توقفنا عن تحديث أرقام الضحايا، ليس لوجود شكوك لدينا عن إستمرار وقوع أعداد كبيرة من الضحايا، وإنما لأننا لسنا في موضع يمكننا من التحقق من القوائم التي تضعها 5 أو 6 منظمات مختلفة”.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:23 pm


691. Juergen said:


I agree if he is sent to Saudi Arabia or Iran, that would be humiliation enough. But i am afraid they will make the deal and let him live in a townhouse in London as Rfiaat. I want him to held responsible as any one else who has committed crimes and that would include also opposition members. I just dont see a reason why he leave his money ( if not he has it bunkered already in the VAE or elseswhere) and will be given amnesty. Why not treat him under syrian state law as anyone else. Thousands have been put in jail without an proper trial, so in this case he would even receive an special treatment.

For me there should be a novellation of the penal code in Syria, but tha t is up to the Syrians to decide that, we in germany have seized the death penalty after Hitler when you get hanged for hearing BBC on the radio.


Well i dont compare evil, i see evil. For me the most pathetic thing would be to rate how evil one is, like was Hitler more evil than Assad? I think that there is nothing right in such regimes, just nothing.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:38 pm


692. Aldendeshe said:

“..UN election monitors don’t need a UN Security Council resolution to monitor and insure fair elections in Syria. Welcome back to real freedom and real democracy!…”

Oh commmmmon, where are you in LALA land, or on that planet with green skinned women only planet ( it does exist for a fact, no kidding)

Yeah …just the Mukhabrat bringing the voting boxes (filled) and manning the voting booth with Kalashnikov right… No need for U.N… Well, why need an election then, we know the outcome: 99.7% on favor of Assad and Baathism for life. Welcome to Assad real Democracy and real Freedom.


Don’t let it bother you, it is politic, you know me, I met aliens, and know of green skinned women only planet. You think I giva a hoop about man-made religions or people faith and skirt length.

(Edited for hateful sectarian comments. Please refer to Syria Comment Rules)

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January 31st, 2012, 2:44 pm


693. Ales said:

Hitler was Austrian, fact Austrians are happy most have forgotten.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:56 pm


694. majedkhaldoun said:

I believe Bashar should be tried, and I am sure he will be found guilty 10,000 time, and should get the punishment as stated by the syrian law,,and I agree he should get the punishment as other syrian get, but my heart cry everytime someone die.

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January 31st, 2012, 2:58 pm


695. SANDRO LOEWE said:

According to FSA, yesterday an opperation against the chief of Air Intelligence, Jamil Hassan, was carried out in Damascus. One bodyduard died and Jamil Hassan taken to hospital.

نفذ الثوار السوريون، ليل امس عملية نوعية استهدفت رئيس المخابرات الجوية اللواء جميل حسن. وقد قتل في العملية التي حصلت في الطرف الشمالي من دمشق مرافق حسن فيما أصيب هو بجراح لم تعرف خطورتها بعد.

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January 31st, 2012, 3:05 pm


696. jad said:

Thank you, I know what you mean when you write: “It is a political issue.”
My issue is that because of all this political games many Syrians are being killed for no reason and they are treated as another number to add on the bloody list of victims just to pay the bill for something different than what they died for. Syrian lives must be protected not to be wasted for any ‘political issue’, it’s not worth it.

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January 31st, 2012, 3:08 pm


697. Hans said:

Israel is very quiet about the events in Syria, even it sides with it is northern border, anyone knows who Israel is supporting, is it sending weapon to the opposition or to Bashar!!!
I don’t believe Israel quiet calmness is an innocent one.
or they are letting the Americans play the dirty game for the benefit of Israel, as they sent all Americans soldiers to die in Iraq, all for the benefit of Israel, and at the end USA left Iraq with a kick in its ass. it is clear who writes the policy of the USA and who runs the state department, read the names

(Edited for racist, sectarian comments)

I don’t believe what I read or hear on TV’s regardless of the source the Europeans channels are more liars than the Arabic ones and the CNN is the lead devil, probably Al Jaziraa and the CNN are twins as they say two peas in a pod.
The opposition lost its credibility with the local population because of its association with the foreigners and the crimes they committed through the mercenaries they brought from foreign countries to kill syrians.
it is very hard for the opposition to win the heart and the souls of the syrians after all this killing they have done.
the syrian people don’t need the UN to tell them who is truly killing the innocent!!!
it is clear that the army is not targeting the innocent population in opposite to what the americans and the west trying to spread through its propaganda.
the devil hand filled with blood is taking over syria and no one will save Syrian but the Russian therefore i believe if russia sends troops to occupy syria while an free election can be held would be the best solution otherwise civil war is the answer and Israel can’t be happier than having civil war in Syria.

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January 31st, 2012, 3:22 pm


698. Dale Andersen said:

Majdkhaldoon and Spammie Annie are tying the knot? Who wouldda thunk it? I can see it now. Majdkhaldoon with his attache case going off each morning to work and Annie staying home to pop a baby a year. Hugs and kisses to all!!

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January 31st, 2012, 3:23 pm


699. Mina said:

Not sure it has been posted yet; the new draft resolution is here:

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January 31st, 2012, 3:24 pm


700. SANDRO LOEWE said:

More rumors from opposition sources.

Saudi hacker steals e-mails from Assad accounts.


تمكن هاكر سعودي اسمه سلمان العنزي من اختراق إيميل الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وقد اخترق وزارات سوريا المهمة.
ووفقا لصحيفة “المدينة” السعودية فإن الهاكر هدد بشار الأسد بتنزيل فضائحه وفضائح معاونيه ودعم إيران له، وصور من بريد بشار السري، فيما ذكر الهاكر أن حجم هذه الفضائح ٤ جيجا, وقد أعطى الهاكر السعودي مهلة للرئيس بشار الأسد لتنفيذ شروطه، وإلا قام بتنفيذ ما هدد به.
يذكر أن موجة تهديدات من هاكر قالت مصادر إسرائيلية إنه سعودي، وأعلنت إحباط عدة محاولات لاختراق مواقع تابعة للوزارات السيادية الإسرائيلية، حيث نجح الهاكر السعودي المزعوم في الوصول لصفحة نائب وزير الخارجية الإسرائيلية داني أيالون وكتب عليها: “اعتذر يا داني، لست رجلاً ولا يمكنكم وقفي”.

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January 31st, 2012, 3:27 pm


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