The Babes of Hizbullah

Are Hizbullah babes as photogenic as Hariri's?

A debate has broken out among SC readers about whether the most recent crop of demonstraters are as telegenic as those of the March 14 crowd. Here are submissions highlighting the Babes of Hizbullah.

From al-Akhbar 27 May 2008 

 Hizbullah Babe 1
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Sent by Alex. The Ar Sign says: "All our troubles are from America"

Addendum: Here are more pictures linked to another blog which raised the question of why there were not Hizbullah Babes!

Until yahoo moves the pictures, there are some protest babes here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Kim Ghattas of BBC called the March 14 demonstrations, "the Gucci Revolution" because of its well healed women. And here is the shot included in her article..

Babes of March 14:

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D. B. Light wrote on his blog at the time:

The protesters may not be disproportionately female, but they certainly are young and media savvy and they know that it is in their interest to prominently display young and pretty women in the vanguard of their movement.

In many ways modern terrorism is a creation of the media world. Terrorists have long known how to capture the attention of the media and have used it to their advantage. What is encouraging here is that the forces of liberation have begun to exhibit an equally sophisticated understanding of what it takes to succeed in the modern media age.

Here is more:
The Babe Theory Of Political Movements.
Mar. 21, 2005 11:50 AM

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51. Frank al Irlandi said:

Helena

One of the complaints the British Military have in Iraq is that the US troops treat the Iraqis as “Untermensch” subhmans. I rember a TV interview with a US Marine in 2004 where he said he was on his way to Falluja to “Kill terrorists”.

The Israelis projected themselves as bombing “Hizballh” an anonymous entity but we knew they were bombing women and children. The blogs let us see that the “Hizballah Fighters” are in fact often part timers who are really teachers and farmers and bookkeepers very similar to the Territorials and National Guard and Weekend Warriors that we once were.

What I like about middle eastern bloggers is that they allow us to empathise with them. These kids could just as well be our sons and daughters, off to a “Stop the War” demo in Hyde Park. I don’t read Arabic or persian well enough to read their blogs in those laguages so I read english ones.

One of my teachers complained that she found that people thought that they rode camels in the centre of Cairo.(Crossing Tahrir Square might be safer if they did.) You realise with some surprise, as I did, that Damascus is a modern city as you look down from the top of Jebel Qaisun.

If bloggers`let us see pictures that make us realise that they “are people just like us” then they go a long way towards the process of unlearning that Edward Said talks about in Orientalism.

It is where the power of Leila Umm Yusuf and HebaZ from Gaza struggling with two young kids and a part time MBA comes from.

So let me paraphrase some of the comments above:

Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves’ eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.
Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.
Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.
Thy neck is like the tower of David builded for an armoury, whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men.
Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.

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December 5th, 2006, 4:11 pm

 

52. Paul D said:

I’m with Helena on this.

So it’s –

Joshua Landis
Co-director, Piece of Ass Studies
University of Oklahoma

Credibilty — shredded.

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December 5th, 2006, 5:48 pm

 

53. Alex said:

I still support this post. It made readers more aware of the fact that “sex sells” and how applies in Lebanese politics too … last year it sold very well to too many silly foreign journalists, and it biased their reporting in an obvious way.

But as a compromise, Josh you should consider adding photos of western-looking young Hizbollah and Aoun male supporters too, not only the female ones.

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December 5th, 2006, 8:10 pm

 

54. Sven said:

I think Mr Landis’ decision to focus on the feminine is well-placed.

Who are the fomenters of war? Is it not predominately the male of the speices?

I feel that by focusing on the feminine one is defusing the violence, consider it from an environmental standpoint, we have seen that the Save the Whales campaign, while not totally successful, has seen a marked increase in whale numbers. Similarly a Save The Babes campaign could help to foster a reduction in indiscriminate bombing and laying of landmines.

Viewing these women what kind of male would want to see their cities and countrysides laid to waste?

This is actually the most basic means of curbing the violence that is all too endemic to that part of the world, thanks largely to US supplying cluster bombs, smart bombs, not to mention the destruction of Iraq for some 15 years or more.

Join Joshua in promoting peace, not war.

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December 5th, 2006, 9:14 pm

 

55. t_desco said:

Zenobia, for the record, I’m not responsible for this blog entry and I personally wouldn’t have posted the fifth picture; instead I would have included the picture from Al-Akhbar because it expresses the (apparent?) contradiction in a very beautiful way. 🙂

I find this all-American clash between a college prank “theory” and puritanical “PC” culture rather fascinating, yet the tendency to equate beauty with “sexism” is deplorable.

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December 5th, 2006, 9:16 pm

 

56. Johannes said:

Listen up all of you, blasting these women at the rallies. Submissive to men and the markets? Forget that!! How about letting these women THEMSELVES choose how they want to present themselves. If they want to wear a scarf, fine. If they want to wear make-up, no problem. Why would it be up to a few intolerant MEN to decide what`s best for the women? Doesn`t the holy book (of every religion) teach to be peaceful and tolerant towards others? Than practice that. I have spoken

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December 5th, 2006, 11:15 pm

 

57. Tikkun said:

“Again the 14th february cabal prove their civilized and democratic nature. After all they are the allies of the two most criminal countries in the world.”

The two most criminal countries in the world are America and Israel. Both claim to be democratic, and neither really is. What does Lebanon have to prove with these rogues in the world?

We saw how the US and Israel helped get Syria out, just so that Israel could bomb South Lebanon and it’s new “Cedar Revolution” democracy.

Yalla, yalla, ya Nasrallah! Nasrallah Zindabad.

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December 6th, 2006, 3:21 am

 

58. Rowan Berkeley said:

I’m afraid Helena Cobban is a liberal sell-out, and her indignation here is quite disingenuous.

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December 6th, 2006, 7:21 am

 

59. Helena Cobban said:

I’d like to note that since I posted the above comment, Josh has changed the original post considerably. Before the change it actually contained (and thereby propagated) a number of images of scantily clad females at demonstrations in Beirut, focusing to a large extent on cleavage shots. Right now, the only picture he has is of some enthusuastic-looking participants in a pro-Hizbullah demonstration who are fully veiled and have attractive open faces.

I really welcome that change that Josh made in the post. It is quite possible to talk about the issue of women’s dress codes– and the preference that many male photographers and photo editors have for shooting and propagating down-the-cleavage shots wherever possible– without oneself propgataing such images and perpetuating the general idea that women are to be judged and admired primarily for their sex-related physical attributes. (Q.v. the whole images-of-the-Prophet discussion.)

However, Josh still uses– in the title of the post and in the text– the term “babes”, to refer to adult women. I consider that to be every bit as demeaning as the term “boy” to refer to an adult African-American. Plus, as I understand it, use of the term “babe” is related to the tendency to judge women primarily by their sex-related physical attributes.

So while I welcome the move Josh made in taking down the exploitative photos that he earlier had here, I still have an objection to the post as revised, and wonder why Josh has strayed so far from the original mission of this blog (“Syria Comments”) to join in– and continue propagating– this childish and sexist discussion.

(30 mins later: Oh, the cleavage shots are back. I’m not clear what Josh is doing with this post… Maybe you aren’t either, Josh?)

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December 6th, 2006, 4:42 pm

 

60. AtheistBot #4031 said:

I think these images are important to demonstrate to the West that not all who oppose their Glorious Leader are screaming, Koran-thumping theocrats stuck in the Medieval era, who wish to keep women in a state of permanent cosseted servitude. This is the image that is propagated in the West, non-stop, ad-nauseum: either you’re with the vile savages that stone women to death for showing a fraction of an inch of ankle. That this misperception is being torn down is refreshing and joyous.

Theocracy is every bit as bad as capitalism. It causes people to close their minds and live in a state of constant fear and supestition.

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December 6th, 2006, 10:45 pm

 

61. Pointless said:

You guys are something. I would not expect to see a bunch of Spaniards or Frenchmen to become so idignant. So they’re nice-looking ladies who like jeans and t-shirts! They’re Lebanese – that’s how some people dress. They do the same in Jordan, Syria, Turkey, the West Bank, and even in Yemen (well, under their abayas….). It’s a nice break from the weighty and dreary issues for a few minutes.

Without a sense of humor, everything is more difficult. “Save the Babes!” “Save the Beefcakes,” for that matter. 😉

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December 9th, 2006, 7:29 am

 

62. osama yagoup m.h said:

It is not really because this babes are cristian not muslim and israel lost the war and hizbullah winnings

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March 27th, 2007, 2:09 pm

 

63. lol said:

war on terror is now finally sexy

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May 1st, 2007, 11:30 pm

 

64. Leaflesseve said:

The first picture is NOT of a Shiite girl. She is a Aonist (Christian). She is wearing an orange built, which is the Aoni color. She’s just wearing the Hizballa flag because of their “alliance”. She is as CLUELESS as most of the young Aoni females in that demonstration as to what the flag she’s wearing stands for.
The irony is, if you ask most of the Hizballa “Sheiks” they would tell u what she’s doing is heresy or “7aram” because she’s carrying the “holy” flag or the word “GOD” around her half naked body. Tattoos are also not considered “OK” for young Muslim females, let alone young Shitte females.

but hay… who cares about religion when u wanna look as “COOL” as the 14th of March girls in front of CNN.

Lebanon is funny…

that’s all i’m gonna say

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October 23rd, 2007, 8:06 am

 

65. بهترین عکسها وکلیپ خفن موبایل و موزیک دختران و پسران ایرونی said:

بهترین کلیپها و جذیذ ترین موزیکها را در گروه دختر پسرای ایرونی داشته باشید این گروه جزو بهترین گروههای یاهو طبق رنکینک یاهو هست
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iranin_modern/join
برای مشاهده و عضویت رایگان بروی لینک فوق کلیک کنید
خفن

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December 19th, 2007, 11:31 pm

 

66. wizart said:

Who’s that girl holding the flag next to Syriacomment.com poster?

Alkarama football team maybe energized by Hizbulah cheerleaders!

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How the money men ended Syria’s military approach to football

Professionalism has leveled the playing field in Syria and helped the national team challenge for a place at South Africa 2010
James Montague

April 10, 2008 12:54 PM

The Colonel wanted to see me right away. I’d been caught red-handed by a gaggle of armed troops who, confused about what to do with me, phoned their boss, the Colonel, for instruction. My crime? Taking pictures outside a Syrian military installation in Damascus. This was a stupid thing to do – I’d been snapping a sign that said: Military zone, no pictures.

But this wasn’t outside a Syrian army barracks, a missile battery or even the residency of the country’s president, Bashar al-Assad. I was outside the training ground of Al Jaish, one of Syria’s most decorated football clubs. It also happened to be the football club of the all-powerful Syrian army.

“Sit,” said Colonel Hassan Swaidan after I was marched to his office overlooking the training ground. A huge, framed photo of President al-Assad hung intimidatingly behind him. “You shouldn’t have just come here without a letter, without permission. And you cannot take pictures here. This is the army, there is discipline.”

Al Jaish literally translates as The Army in Arabic and the club, which has a chain of command like the armed forces, with a general overseeing matters and the colonel as technical director, has held a special place in Syrian society since its inception in 1946.

The club has won 10 titles and secured countless cup triumphs, although they weren’t exactly playing with a straight bat. Syria is a highly militarized society, with an army close to half a million strong. Down every Damascene street you’ll find soldiers on patrol. Whole districts of the city make their living from clothing the country’s newly minted conscripts. An inordinate amount of amputees go about their daily business, testament to Syria’s past, unsuccessful, conflicts with its quarrelsome neighbours, Israel and Lebanon.

Most importantly for Al Jaish, however, is national service. At 18, every man has to serve two years and Al Jaish used this to their advantage. The moment a talented young player came of age, the army conscripted him and he played for Al Jaish. As the league was still amateur, there was no compensation. As it was the military doing the taking, there was no argument. By sucking up the league’s talent they won honors and attracted huge crowds, while the other clubs had to keep a lid on their discontent.

But five years ago the army’s power was challenged by an unlikely source. The Syrian FA decided that enough was enough. Syrian football was going pro and if Al Jaish wanted to take any clubs’ players then they’d have to pay for them. It was a brave, and rare, move in a country where dissent isn’t often tolerated.

“Before they took all the players,” admitted Taj Addin Fares, vice-president of the Syrian FA. “Any good players, they would just take them and if they played for Al Jaish they played for the national team too.” The military had successfully turned what should have been a partisan league club into a de facto national team, flying the flag for Syria at home and abroad. Not supporting them was akin to treason.

“More than 80% of Damascus used to support the army club,” Toufik Sarhan, the FA’s general secretary, told me. “But now many of the clubs are as good as Al Jaish, if not better, because we made the league professional. Rich men started to support their clubs. Football is much better now.”

It’s rare that fans sing the praises of the money men that have commercialized their leagues, but the influx of finance, and with it better facilities, wages and coaches, has had a dramatic effect on the game, making Syria an example that other emerging leagues should follow. Al Karama, the team that has dominated the professional game in Syria, reached the final of the Asian Champions League in 2006, and the quarter-finals last year.

But it’s the Syrian FA’s policy of promoting youth that is showing the best results. By beefing up its scouting and training structure and encouraging league teams to play more young Syrians, the FA has been able to identify talent and develop it through the ranks. At the 2007 Under-17s World Cup, Syria surprised even themselves. After drawing with Argentina, beating Honduras and then losing by a stoppage-time goal to Spain, their tournament ended with a 3-1 defeat to England. At the 2005 Under-20s World Cup in Holland, Syria beat Italy before losing 1-0 to Brazil in the last 16.

Many of these players are now spearheading Syria’s attempt to qualify for their first World Cup finals. Draws against Iran and the UAE have put them in a good position to make the final Asian qualifying round. “In the past five years we have taken very big steps and we have got to a good level,” Sarhan agreed. “Our youth teams at Under-17 and Under-20 are very good. They would have all played with each other through all the levels. We have a big chance to reach South Africa.”

The weekend’s fixture list had presented me with a dilemma. Al Karama were the form team, but they play in Homs, two hours away, so I chose to stay in Damascus to watch the city derby between Al Jaish and Al Majd. With their monopoly broken and raison d’être corrupted, few bother to follow Al Jaish anymore. At the 45,000-seater Abasiyyin Stadium, only 1,000 or so Al Jaish fans turned up. Five years ago the stadium would have been full. Things got worse for Al Jaish when they quickly went 2-0 down before mounting a stunning comeback, replying with four goals.

The next day’s game involving Damascus’ new No1 team Al Wehda and basement club Al Horriya showed just how unpopular Al Jaish have become, as 20,000 fans screamed throughout an end-to-end encounter, Al Wehda eventually winning 3-2 after being 2-1 down. The fans sung and taunted the opposition with cries of “kis akh tek Horriya” (Horriya, go fuck your sister) as they took the lead at the last. “Al Jaish are hated,” 20-year-old Ali, a Wehda fan, told me. “When you’re 20 they come and, bzzzz, shave your head. But if you sign for Al Jaish, they don’t shave your head, you don’t have to serve. And there’s wasta. They have all this money and the referee always gives them the decisions, for sure.”

The standard at both games was some of the highest I have seen in the Middle Eastern game; quick, fluid, attacking football executed by players with technical skill. I’d seen 11 goals to boot. And Al Karama ground out a 1-0 victory over relegation threatened Al Shorta as they marched inexorably towards their third consecutive title.

Syria is holding its breath that it can reach the World Cup finals and, in the words of Sarhan, “show the world that Syria is different to what the American and Israeli media thinks it is”. Things have even started looking up for Al Jaish. After five years in the footballing wilderness, the army finally seems to be adapting to the realities of the modern game. This season they hired a new coach, experienced Egyptian former national team coach Ahmad Rifat, who has implemented a youth policy in line with the FA’s wishes.

“It’s very different coaching an army team. We can have any facility we like. The only problem was we could take players from the competition before,” Rifat lamented. “Now it’s more difficult. The results for Al Jaish had been very bad so I concentrated on young players. The whole team is under 23, except two who are over 30, for experience. I hope, inshallah, next season we will be successful again.”

Colonel Swaidan was equally upbeat about the future for Al Jaish. “We will look in the close season to see if we need to buy any strong players,” he said after we had ironed out our differences. He agreed to walk me around Al Jaish’s vast training complex, the most comprehensive in Syria, as long as I agreed not to take my camera. “We are No1 in Syria. No1 in terms of facilities and No1 in discipline. Other clubs will be following our lead.”

Al Jaish’s star midfielder Abdul Razek al-Hussein, a soldier and member of the 2005 Syrian youth team that stared in Holland, agrees that Al Jaish’s unique disciplinarian approach can be harnessed for the better. “The facilities are good here so I can really show my technique and fitness,” he said. “But I came here because it has better discipline than anywhere else.” Who knows, maybe next season they may even be challenging Al Karama for the championship, which should please The Colonel, if no one else.

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April 11th, 2008, 11:43 am

 

67. Murtuza Ali said:

these are nothing but the cheep tricks which are applied by israel,they are affraid of the popularity of “HIZBULLAH” and are affraid they can again loose the war against him.(If they do such mistake again).
Long live “HIZBULLAH” Ameen.Allah(s.w.t) help him a lot to fight against the evils.Ameen.

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May 8th, 2008, 7:01 pm

 

68. wizart said:

What’s behind persistent Hizbulla and Lebanese Government conflict?

Different world views combined with mutual disrespect and mistrust.

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Humanistic psychologists preach unconditional positive regard

Unconditional positive regard involves accepting the client’s own personal constructs / personal values / valuing system. It would be possible to imagine a spectrum involving at one end confluence between the valuing systems of counsellor and client, and at the other end conflict between the valuing systems of counsellor and client. The person-centred counsellor allows herself to accept the valuing systems of clients which are far removed from her own. This does not mean that the counsellor must share the client’s values, or pretend that she shares the client’s values. Indeed, the counsellor may, in boundaried circumstances, disclose to the client ways in which her values differ from those of the client. However, she is required to accept in full that the client’s values are the client’s values, that the client is entitled to hold those values for as long as the client wishes, that the client’s values are not deficient (however much they may appear to be deficient from the standpoint of the counsellor’s values), and that the client’s values may never change. If, during the course of the counselling, the client’s values change, then this may be indicative of the client changing as a person. If, during the course of the counselling, the client’s values change to become more like those of the counsellor, then the counsellor may need to consider whether she has been persuading the client in some way.

What if both parties approached the conflict with the right positive mental attitude?

Imagine if Hizballa at peace in Lebanon redirects its energy to moderate Iran and helps create a new enlightment revolution there.

Let’s fight negative thinking that leads to more death and misery!

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May 11th, 2008, 1:11 pm

 

69. OLD SKOOL G said:

ITS A YAHOOODI GIRL DUDE FAKING TO BE ARAB TO GIVE A BAD NAME TO MUSLIMS

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November 25th, 2008, 5:20 am

 

70. Azz Kicker said:

this is Zionist propaganda targeted to create the most hate towards muslims and everybody who is living int he coutnry of mulsims even christians.

They get 1 photo of a girl who is wearing clothes that show her breast and say this is what muslims do to promote terrorism.

These are the Isrelis, they even use the tits of our girls to see this is terrorism. What more do you want? do you want to use their vaginas too?

You talk about ethics and you use Israeli women in the IDF to kill and scare children with machine guns? Israel has been terrorisziong Palestine sine the 1960s. You kill women and children and use brainwashing directors liek speilberg to make the world beleive that Israel is innocent and their athletes are heart over and over in their munich film. All the time Israel is being shown to be human, understanding and loving and kind and that Israeli athletes are brave and that the killer mossad who actuall shot a poor naked woman 3 times till the poured blood are actually good israeli people.

And in non of the film does speilebrg show WHY!! the palestinians had to fight israel athletes. He did not show its because israel actually killed 10s of thousands of palestinians and stolen 90% of their land.

Hitler is more human than the zurrent zionist israelis. If you don’t beleive that israel is the real terrorist. Check out the war crimes that Israel did on the palestinian people, they are the same as hitler did in world war.

http://3mb.us/images/476_IsraeliZionism.jpg

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January 17th, 2010, 9:59 pm

 

71. Azz Kicker said:

So they are trying to attack muslims because hizbollah babes are beautiful? You want them to be ugly otherwise its terrorism…

Didn’t you watch how Speilberg promoted the killers who butchered the woman in Holland as heroes. When Jews promote people who kill women as hereos just because she killed as a Jew then we see who is racist.

Speilberg made the killers have human values, and family values and heroic values, why? cause they are jewish like him. He is saying in the movie that Jewish blood is more important than any blood including women. He treats her death with such sarcasm that she has no value whatsoever for them.

In the Talmud it says that Jews are human and everybody else is below humanity and if someone killed a Jew he must be killed where as if a Jew killed someone, its to be treated as killing an animal.

So the poor dutch women was most probably treated as an animal.

Please check out Youtube and see how Israelis are promoting themselves as good with using girls as propaganda to make Jews human and sexy.

Search IDF girls and Israeli girls and see how they use the bodies of women to promote Israel. And you show us 1 tit of a girl and you say we are using girls? See what your israeli media is doing on youtube showing Israeli millitary girl fighters as sexy babes…

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January 17th, 2010, 10:21 pm

 

72. ali AWAN said:

this is called freedom.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL .

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September 12th, 2010, 3:45 am

 

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