The Final Declaration of the Antalya Opposition Conference

The Final Declaration of the Syria Conference for Change

Today, Syria is witnessing the most difficult and painful days; however, it is also witnessing the birth of a new dawn of freedom quenched by the blood and sacrifice of the Syrian youth demonstrating peacefully in the ground. This puts the burden of urgent action on the shoulders of all Syrians, living all over the world, to work along side their brothers and sisters in and outside Syria to build a new future for their country.

Therefore, a number of patriotic Syrians, from all different backgrounds, came together and called for the Syria Conference for Change. Invitations were sent to a wide variety of political and populist Syrian activists with the purpose of stopping the blood shed of our people and to take a decisive stand towards the events in their homeland and towards the insistence of the oppressive regime on using the military and security forces in rejecting the just demands of the people of freedom and democracy.

The Syria Conference for Change took place in Antalya, Turkey, May 31 – June 3, 2011, in solidarity with the Syrian Revolution and to search for solutions that would save Syria from oppression and place it on the road to freedom and dignity. As such, participants agreed to the following:

1- Participants are committed to the demands of the Syrian people in calling on the Syrian president to step down, in demanding the toppling of the regime, and in supporting the great, peaceful revolution of the Syrian people towards freedom and dignity.

2-Participants call on president Bashar al-Assad to resign immediately from all of his duties and positions and to hand over authority to his vice-president in accordance with constitutional procedures until the election of a transitional council which will draft and implement a new Syrian constitution that shall call for free and transparent parliamentary and presidential elections within a period not to exceed one year from the resignation of president Bashar al-Assad.

3- Participants assert their continuous support of the Syrian revolution until it achieves its objectives while emphasizing peace, patriotism, the unity of Syrian soil, the unequivocal rejection of foreign military intervention and national unity of Syrian revolution – one that does not represent any partisan direction nor does it target any particular group of Syrian society.

4- Participants affirm that the Syrian people are of many ethnicities, Arab, Kurd, Caldean, Assyrian, Syriac, Turkmen, Chechen, Armenian and others. The conference establishes the legitimate and equal rights of all under a new Syrian constitution based on national unity, civil state and a pluralistic, parliamentary, and democratic regime.

5- Participants commit to exert all efforts towards achieving a democratic future of Syria which respects human rights and protects freedom for all Syrians, including the freedom of belief, expression and practice of religion, under a civil state based on the separation of legislative, judicial and executive powers, while adopting democracy and the ballot box as the sole medium of governance.

6- Participants are committed to the hard and serious missions of ensuring economic prosperity, scientific and cultural advancements under the umbrella of justice, peace and security.

7- Participants call on all Arabs, the Organization of Islamic Conference, the Arab League and the International Community to take legal and ethical responsibility in order to stop the violation of human rights and crimes against humanity committed against unarmed civilians, and to support the ambition of the Syrian people of freedom and democracy.

The conference concluded with the election of a follow up consultative body through a slate-vote.Voting lists were selected by a group of participants. The consultative body shall appoint an implementation body which, in turn, will establish and implement an action plan to coordinate all activities supporting the Syrian revolution for a peaceful change.

NPR

“….The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights also said authorities released a leading opposition figure Saturday. Ali Abdullah of the Damascus Declaration Group had been jailed since 2007 and was <b> among hundreds of political prisoners freed this week after Assad issued a general amnesty.</b>w

Assad also created a committee that he said would pave the way for a national dialogue, hoping the concessions would satisfy the revolt, which is posing the most serious challenge to the Assad family’s 40-year rule. What began as a disparate movement demanding reforms has grown into a resilient uprising seeking Assad’s ouster.

Assad has invited officials from 12 outlawed Kurdish parties to meet him, said Mohammed Moussa of the Kurdish Leftist Party, whose group was invited. He said the meeting is expected in the coming days…. Antalya, June 2nd, 2011

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Organizers of the Conference for Change in Syria spoke to the press on Friday after sharing their final declaration following the three-day meeting that brought together opponents of the Assad regime.

Will get in touch with intl institutions on Syria: opposition
PTI | 02:06 PM,Jun 04,2011

Antalya (Turkey), June 4 (Anadolu) Members of the Syrian opposition say that they would get in touch with international institutions in order to stop the ongoing bloodshed in Syria.Following the “Change in Syria Conference” held at Antalya’s Falez Hotel yesterday, members of the Advisory Committee elected at the conference, Ghassan al-Mufleh, Salim Mounem and Riad Ghannam, held a press conference and read out a document published at the end of the conference.Reading out the document, Salim Mounem said that the conference was held in order to extend support to the revolution in Syria after the Syrians made protests against the government.The demands of the Syrian people were brought onto the agenda.We demanded Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to resign.According to Syrian laws, the vice-president must assume the powers of al-Assad.Once the vice-president assumes the office, a new parliament must be established within 15 days.Parliamentary elections must take place within a year.If this basic demand is not met, the revolution will continue until the existing order is demolished, the Antalya document said….

Ghassan al-Mufleh thanked the Turkish government and nation for hosting them in Antalya and also thanked the media for making the conference heard in the world.Asked if the new Syrian state would be secular following the end of the current administration, Riad Ghannam said that there was no contradiction between Islam and democracy.”We can all be democrats and Muslims,” Ghannam underlined.President al-Assad has done nothing in the past 20 years.He took a decision in the last minute and issued an amnesty for those in prison.While some individuals were taken out of prisons, hundreds of others were placed in such prisons, Ghannam also said.The Antalya conference in Turkey provided a forum for 80 per cent of the Syrian opposition.Meanwhile, the election of a nine-member administrative committee by the Advisory Council was postponed to a future meeting.

Syrian opposition gathers in Brussels – Saturday

Syrian opposition groups took their campaign to Belgium on Saturday where they demanded an end to the crackdown led by President Bachar al-Assad.

Around 200 activists gathered at a Brussels hotel for a two-day conference after Turkey hosted a similar meeting earlier this week.

The aim of the conference, said organiser Bassem Hatahet, was to send al-Assad the message that “if he is really a leader, he should stop his crimes, and that if his forces continue to imprison and torture protesters, there must be a regime change.”

Hatahet said several different opposition groups and representatives from Syrian society were taking part in the conference. A statement would be issued at the close of the meeting on Sunday.

Following the conference in the Mediterranean resort of Antalya on Wednesday and Thursday, opposition groups urged al-Assad’s immediate resignation and the holding of parliamentary and presidential elections within a year.

Large crowds attended on Saturday the funerals of 50 people killed by security forces during anti-regime protests in Hama the previous day, human rights activists said.

More than 1,100 civilians have been killed and at least 10,000 arrested in a brutal crackdown on almost daily demonstrations in Syria since March 15, rights organisations say.

Haaretz: The opposition vs. Assad / Awaiting a push by Washington
2011-06-04

More than 70 Syrians were killed over the weekend in the largest anti-government protests yet against President Bashar Assad’s regime, with around 50 killed in the city of Hama alone, according to a Syrian human rights group. A Kurdish source says …

The opposition’s main focus at this point is to enlist world public opinion to get Western countries, particularly the United States, to take a firm line against Assad and his regime. Syrian opposition forces are disappointed that the United States has not demanded Assad’s ouster the way it did with former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

A source in Washington told Haaretz that this stems in part from Russia’s strong support of Assad, as well as uncertainty over what would replace the current regime in Syria, where no independent government or economic institutions exist. There have been a number of unconfirmed reports from Syria on the arrest of senior Syrian officers who refused to have their units use force against demonstrators. The opposition assumes that if Washington demanded Assad’s departure, the Syrian army could shift its stance.

Comments (386)


SF94123 said:

It is very troubling and self-serving declaration!

“Participants assert their continuous support of the Syrian revolution until it achieves its objectives while emphasizing peace, patriotism, the unity of Syrian soil, the unequivocal rejection of foreign military intervention and national unity of Syrian revolution – one that does not represent any partisan”

They should have asked demonstrators to stop for now and give time to implement reform. Obviously, they don’t care about the future of Syria and the fate of the minorities…

Arm dealers in Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon are very busy. Syria on verge of civil war and million of innocent Syrians will be killed… How Sad! I don’t want this kind of reform … Period..

June 4th, 2011, 8:46 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Professor Josh,

Dr. Assad has just set himself up to be on the level OBL, Gad-fly, and Nejad. Rock bottom,the absolute worst in world leaders.

Just think, 3 months ago you were in love with him, and now disappointment has set in.

Have you thought about going back to school to learn something else? Maybe South American studies/history?

June 4th, 2011, 9:14 pm

 

Mohammed Kanj said:

Can someone please explain to me how the opposition expects to get support from moderate and semi-moderate sunni’s like my family and friends I’n Syria ? Their is not even 1% of the 35% of minority sects who support them I’n Syria . After the public hanging of the Syrian security officer I’n hama, which has flooded Internet sites, they Have All but lost the support of those syrians sitting on the sidelines

June 4th, 2011, 9:25 pm

 

Ben Waxman said:

I didn’t see any women in the picture or a demand for equality of the sexes. Are the 50% of the population who are not male going to benefit from the revolution?

June 4th, 2011, 9:46 pm

 

Norman said:

Hey Leo,

you really scare me, just remember that in Egypt and during the revolution, The West was worry about the MB , but were told that they are a maximum of 25%, only to see that they got 80% of the vote for the changes they want in the constitution, so no sir i do not trust you or the MB to seek equal rights for all Syrians, you would have accepted Bashar Assad for his policies of saving Syria from an American occupation after the occupation of Iraq, fighting off the American prescience in Iraq, fighting for the rights of the Palestinians and supporting Gaza when all your Arab Muslim brothers enforced the blockade against Gaza, support Hezbollah with arms so it can stand and defeat Israel, Yes sir you are the worst of what Syria has, and after what your criminals did in Hama, it is time for the army to inter Hama or even better surround it and go house to house and clean it up from the criminals that you call brothers,

Don’t you ever threaten me boy and that is you are .

June 4th, 2011, 9:49 pm

 

syau said:

Mohammed Kanj,

The only way they can think of gaining support is by using the divide and conquer strategy.

They dont have a plan other than to topple the regime and the only way they can think of doing that is by playing the sectarian game.

Their violent revolution wont do anything other than to bring Syrians closer together. Nothing that is based on lies, violence and division lasts, Syrians are aware of their game and wont let it divide the country.

June 4th, 2011, 9:49 pm

 

Shami said:

Kanj and SYAU , you will be allowed to remain baathi and to compete democratically with the other parties in post dictatorial Syria ,good luck !.
Ben ,there were women ,didnt you see the photos of the gathering ?

June 4th, 2011, 10:08 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Walid Jumblat,is going back to March 14,after watching the trouble Bashar is in,

June 4th, 2011, 10:11 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

…demand for equality of the sexes.

Ben Waxman,

Kif Halak?

Maybe before one can demand equality of the sexes you need to demand rights as a human.

June 4th, 2011, 10:48 pm

 

Mohamed kanj said:

Shami ,

You didn’t answer my question above. U were only able to use the usual statement that the opposition uses.

Ben waxman –

I will post u some videos of the women that come along I’n the protests with their men. I’n Hama , their is 50 women wearing the full veil niqab and they are thrown I’n the corners of the protests. I’n idleb more full veiled niqab women and they are Also hiding I’n the background. I’n Damascus countryside , their Are also women wearing the full veiled niqab , and once again I’n the back. Show much for equal rights for their women!! If you wish i will post u videos to show you

June 4th, 2011, 10:57 pm

 

syau said:

Akbar Palace,

“Maybe before one can demand equality of the sexes you need to demand rights as a human.”

Write that sentance down and send it via express post to Netanyahu because your brilliant comment describes the exact state of the Palestinians living in occupied Palestine.

June 4th, 2011, 10:57 pm

 

Shami said:

What’s your question Kanj?I will answer you accurately.

June 4th, 2011, 11:21 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Can’t Handle the Truth NewZ

SYAU,

Arab-Israelis have full human rights and equality. Go to Israel and report back to us;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

June 4th, 2011, 11:22 pm

 

Abighassan said:

I will not support any movement that does not tell the truth. Violence was used by the opposition and more than 140 officers in the army and security forces were killed by armed thugs loyal to those who met in turkey.minorities were not represented at the conference which spells trouble for Syria knowing the demographics of syrians and the composition of Syrian army and security forces . This opposition is preparing for a long and bloody war,and that is not acceptable .

June 4th, 2011, 11:42 pm

 

syau said:

Akbar Palace,

There are 236 Jewish only settlements and outposts in Isreal, while there aren’t any for Palestinians.

The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while in the West Bank it’s 16.5% and in Gaza 40%.

24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 while there have been no Israeli houses demolished by Palestinians.

Israeli’s recieve billions in military aid annually, whil Palestinians receive zero.

That is naming a few in many examples. The land is not Israeli land, it is Palestinian land occupied by the Israeli.

Does that sound like equal rights to you?

June 5th, 2011, 12:12 am

 

Usama said:

AP

You are delusional if you believe that. In the 2006 July invasion of Lebanon, Arab Israelis complained about the lack of bomb shelters in their neighborhoods. Also, conscription applies to everyone except students of the Torah, and Arab Israelis. If they have such equal rights and are like any other Israelis, why are you too scared to have them serve in your army? These are the kinds of problems inherent of a “country” established on stolen soil. Even with all the comprehensive forced and systematic ethnic cleansing in the region, there are still some that remain, and you view them as a threat from within. Let’s not forget all the Arab Israelis who are in jails, or “disappeared”, today under Israel’s own emergency law, coupled with a ban on media discussion on the matter.

You guys really want to support an oppressed people under junta rule? Well since Palestinians are out of the question (and “don’t exist”) go help the people of Myanmar, instead of supplying their junta with all the weapons and “security services” they need, like you are doing today.

June 5th, 2011, 12:20 am

 

Norman said:

This is what seems to be planned for the Arabs, and some stupid revolutionaries do not seem to see, they continue to play the game that is planed for us all,

http://www.alquds.co.uk

الجيش المصري يحذر من مخطط لتقسيم مصر إلى ثلاث دويلات

القاهرة- (يو بي اي): قالت صحيفة مصرية السبت إن القوات المسلحة لديها وثائق تشير إلى مؤامرة لتقسيم مصر إلى ثلاث دويلات.
وقالت صحيفة (الشروق) إن عددا من قيادات القوات المسلحة، التقوا ظهر الأربعاء الماضى بممثلى ما يسمى “ائتلاف مجلس قيادة الثورة المصرية”.

ووصف محمد عباس، العضو المؤسس بالائتلاف، اللقاء بأنه كان مثمرا للغاية، حيث اطلع ممثلى ائتلاف مجلس قيادة الثورة على وثائق تؤكد تعرض البلاد لمؤامرة من أطراف داخلية وخارجية”. لم يسمها.

وقال عباس “إن هذه الوثائق تكشف عن عدة أهداف وهي الوقيعة بين الشعب والشرطة لإغراق البلاد فى الفوضى، والتأثير على الحالة الاقتصادية والاجتماعية، والوقيعة بين الأقباط والمسلمين لزعزعة استقرار البلاد، وإظهار مصر فى صورة سيئة توحى للعالم بوجود فتنة طائفية”، وتهدف المؤامرة ايضا “إلى الوقيعة بين الشعب والجيش لمعاقبة القوات المسلحة على وقوفها إلى جانب الثورة وحمايتها، وأيضا التأثير على القوة العسكرية للدولة وإضعافها”.

وقال الجيش إن الهدف النهائى من كل ما سبق هو تفتيت مصر إلى دويلات صغيرة (دولة نوبية فى الجنوب، وأخرى مسيحية فى الصعيد، وثالثة إسلامية فى شرق البلاد)، على أن يتم طرد الفلسطينيين من قطاع غزة إلى سيناء لتحدث حرب ثلاثية أطرافها مصر وفلسطين وإسرائيل، فى إطار خطة أوسع لتقسيم الدول العربية مثلما حدث مع السودان والمحاولات التى جرت فى العراق وتجرى حاليا فى ليبيا، وحتى تصبح مصر فى غاية الضعف أمام اسرائيل بحيث يكون الكيان الصهيونى هو مخلب القط فى الشرق الأوسط الجديد كما هو مخطط له”.

وعقّب عضو مجلس قيادة الثورة المصرية خلال اللقاء على ما تناولته الصحف من تصريحات رئيس الحكومة الاسرائيلية بنيامين نتنياهو وبعض الدعوات من داخل إسرائيل لإعادة احتلال سيناء مرة أخرى، بالقول «كما وقفت القوات المسلحة إلى جانب الشعب ووفرت الحماية لمصر والثورة، فإنه حان الدور على الشعب المصرى لأن يقف بجانب قواته المسلحة”.
t1

June 5th, 2011, 12:21 am

 

Abughassan said:

The video from Hama is very disturbing. I do not know the man and what he did to hanged in public by thugs who were taking the law in their hands.Many people in the gathering cheered and most took pictures and videos of the killing and what followed. Our problem in Syria is much deeper than a corrupt and oppressive regime. We have a lot of evil,backward and illiterate people from all backgrounds who are organic third world citizens that are,in many cases ,”blessed” with sectarian hatred,and I am not just referring to the opposition here. I hope that all of you here denounce violence.ignoring what opposition groups is doing is worse than defending violence by descurity forces and it is a moral failure and an ominous sign of future problems to come .

June 5th, 2011, 12:23 am

 

why-discuss said:

“Participants are committed to the demands of the Syrian people in calling on the Syrian president to step down, in demanding the toppling of the regime”

This declaration starts wrong. Where did they get the confirmation that the majority of the Syrians are demanding Bashar al Assad to go. This is a total abuse of the Syrian people as there are no proofs of that on the ground, just a few thousands demonstrators and many reported deaths on small towns.
If they were serious, they would at least make a poll instead of basing themselves on impressions.
That’s a very bad start. I wonder what is coming next from that group. I hope nothing, this is convincing enough of the vanity and uselessness of these people.

June 5th, 2011, 12:26 am

 

Shami said:

Abughassan ,he is likely a well known agent of the regime in Hama.
Everywhere the people are waiting the right time in order to take their revenge against such scums.
Nobody can stop such act of prosecution of evil people who destroyed the live of many.
I’m also against public justice ,but you can not avoid it,there will be many like him.
Many of those who torture ,kidnapp ,spy will likely face such fate.
Aleppines,Hamwis,Deraawis are going to compete in order to get the big names among the Asad and Makhlouf..

June 5th, 2011, 1:14 am

 

Mick said:

“The opposition’s main focus at this point is to enlist world public opinion to get Western countries, particularly the United States, to take a firm line against Assad and his regime”

What a bankrupt opposition. This has been their goal all along. They can’t win the majority of the Syrian people’s approval, so they make a massive media campaign to appease the West. I guess after hanging fellow Syrians they can’t exactly pretend they want to represent all of Syria.

June 5th, 2011, 1:15 am

 

Shami said:

Why Discuss,
Bashar will not make the democratic transition…but when there will be a democracy,in post asad baath syria, you will see what bashar’s baath size was.
You would agree with me ,that if we had a democracy ,the regime would be other in Syria.

June 5th, 2011, 1:22 am

 

Syria no kandahar said:

I have just watched the public hanging of a person in Hama ,I have also read the ugly comments of Shamror(Shami+Aroor=Shamror):
لعنكم الله ولعن اعمالكم .لم يشهد التاريخ افظع واعهر منكم اذا كانت هذه سوريا فانا ساحرق هويتي الان .الكلاب والحيوانات المفترسه تستحي مما فعلتم.اهذه هي السلميه يااولاد القحبه .اهذه هي الديمقراطيه ياانذال. اهذه سوريا التي توعدونا ياحقر ماخلق الله.سوف تخلدون في التاريخ كاسفل وانذل واوضع واحقر واخس وابشع واكلب واكذب واسفل من يسمون انفسهم بشرا.مزابل التاريخ سوف تستحي فيكم

June 5th, 2011, 1:54 am

 

Revlon said:

Contrary to the premeditated, systematic and large scale killing of unarmed demonstrators, the killing of paramilitia and security thugs or Army elements Had been limited, and came in reaction to the shooting at, the sniping at, or the beating to death of demonstrators.

Those who expect that civilians will remain docile, and sitting ducks for regime’s elements’ aggression can not even start to feel how to lose a son, a dad, a brother, a sister or adear friends.

The regime’s violent actions are premeditated and deliberate.
The operation was designated Wa2dulfitnah by the regime’s head.
Details of the operation were published in a leaked directive from the general mukhabrat administration and was published then on this blog.

The regime must not use the pretexts of protection of abstract beliefes like national sentiment, national stability, the future of Syria, or Wa2dulfitnah to justify killing, detaining, and torturing thousands of demonstrating civilians.

The regime must stop the violent crackdown.
Then, and only then can the regime speak of unjustified civilan aggression against regime’s personnel.

Human life is precious. It is the gift of God.
I feel the pain for loosing the life of every soul, and the berievement of their loved ones.

June 5th, 2011, 1:55 am

 

syau said:

Shami,

“islamophobic christians and alawites who came here to dump the hatred they have in their heart because they feel surrounded by this trend in Syria”

Christians and Alawi are not here to dump their hatred. When anyone sees murders and mutilations, public hangings with sick spectators cheering it on and taking photos, armed gangs terrorising civilians, violence and destruction of infrastructure, and all the while the Islamist sheikhs are condoning such acts, that’s when people whether they are Christian, Sunni, Alawi or any other sect reject what the MB stand for. And furthermore, only and Islamist will label Christians who do not agree with the violence of this revolution as “Islamaphobic”.

If you want people to see Islam for the peaceful religion it is, you need not to condone the violence and suggest that others will face the same fate as the soldier who was publically hanged. You should condemn the violence this revolution has brought with it and call for an end to it. You should see that those who you are calling ‘freedom fighters’ are in actual fact terrorists.

June 5th, 2011, 1:55 am

 

SF94123 said:

# 20 (to SHAMI)
You are DESPICABLE!

Besides, you want us to believe that you and your group can make Syria a better place!
http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=9340

Shame on you!

June 5th, 2011, 1:58 am

 

syau said:

Revlon,

“Details of the operation were published in a leaked directive from the general mukhabrat administration and was published then on this blog.”

There have been masses of fabricated video’s linked by the revolutionists. That document you are talking about is yet another one of the fabrications, you suggesting it is authentic is ridiculous.

This revolution brought with it nothing but violence and hatred. You condoning it and justifying these disgusting acts shows clearly the hatred you have inside you. I wonder how much you enjoyed watching the video of the hanging.

The demonstrations have proven to be violent, the demonstrators are not unarmed, that has also been proven, so stop deluding yourself and insulting other peoples intelligence by continually suggesting that they are unarmed.

If you actually do feel pain for the loss of life as you state, you would have bestowed your Fatiha to all, not only the ‘revolutionists’ who died.

The legitimate demonstrators stopped after the announcement of reforms, the ones who are still demonstrating and causing all the chaos are not legitimate.

June 5th, 2011, 2:13 am

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Revlun
You will be standing on the electric pole and hit that person dead body with your stick .when janood killers were cought you asked for (due process),now you justify public hanging the Taliban way,you are one of those thugs animals standing up there and I feel shamed to be discussing any thing with you and your Islamic terrorist mafia ,I feel that there is nothing common between us and that you are manipulative,terrorist,and an enemy to Syria best interest.
It is a shame to be with a group of people like :ًRevroor,Shamroor,Majdoor…you are all little spit of your Grand Terrorist Master:Aroor.
Enjoy your MB Inter-terrorist discussion and enjoy abusing the infidels freedom of speech.

June 5th, 2011, 2:16 am

 

jad said:

Shami
“to take their revenge against such scums.”
SCUM! you judge someone that you have no clue how or why or when he was killed in such horrific lawless scene as a SCUM!!
That is the most horrible sentence I read for you in years.
What a shame.

June 5th, 2011, 2:30 am

 

Shami said:

SYAU, dear ,it’s because they see the increase of veiled women in the syrian street,the islamization of the public space that they come here and dump what they have inward.Why do you deny this behavior?
if someone in the future kills 35 000 civilians in Qardaha ,you would be right.
The culture of huge massacres that might have cost the live of more than 50 000 syrians ,the culture of kidnapping,spying and torture ,is that of asad regime.
As for the lies of the regime ,swallow them as you like ,but the reality is other.
do you know persons who belong to this regime who are not hypocrits,liars and corrupts ?
if yes give me 10 names.

June 5th, 2011, 2:30 am

 

louai said:

Shami@20 , I was disturbed of your comment to Abughassan even more than watching the video itself, I am actually still disturbed and don’t know what to think .!

June 5th, 2011, 2:40 am

 

Shami said:

Jad,the blood of the moukhabarat is not more noble than the blood of our people.
Was he the hairdresser of the quarter or a poor simple person?
this is unlikely.

June 5th, 2011, 2:41 am

 

Shami said:

Louai ,i’m against popular prosecution but they can not be avoided under the known context of Syria.
it happened everywhere in countries who had similar regimes.
Did you mourn when asad killed thousands of civilians ? i think that islamophobic christians and alawites would applaud such massive massacres against syrian muslim civilians and then they would use the lies and fabrication of makhlouf media in order to avoid to look bad.
We must be direct.

June 5th, 2011, 2:43 am

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Luoai
MB members enjoy watching such a seen.If they were allowed to drink they will have عرق while they replay it.For them this is justified.this is just the tip of the ice.this will be very common seen,and they will Cont to make there prostitutional
Statements.This is Islam the :Wahabi,Taliban,Terrorist way.

June 5th, 2011, 2:54 am

 

syau said:

Shami,

No it’s not because of the increase of veiled women. That has nothing to do with it. It is because of the violence this revolution has brought with it and the selective murders and intended rapes. It’s the Sheikhs affiliated with the revolution condoning such acts which makes people fear Islam and despise the MB.

Corruption exists in every government around the world. There are some in the Syrian government who are corrupt, but many who are not, just as it is everywhere. That doesn’t mean you condone the deaths caused by the revolutionists and call the dead scum, that is the most disrespectful thing you can say, just imagine how the soldiers family would have felt watching him being hung publically and degraded by people cheering it on, taking photos, people throwing shoes at him and other hitting him with sticks.

They are inhuman; I can’t say they are animals, because even animals wouldn’t do such a thing, so I have no name for them other than pure evil. It’s time you looked outside the square and see this revolution for what it is

June 5th, 2011, 2:54 am

 

syau said:

Syria no Kandahar,

The statements of Revlon and Shami do not represent Islam, all they represent is extremism. Islam rejects such acts as we have witnessed with the hanging, murders and mutilations and destructions, the ones who conducted these acts are evil and do not follow Islam, only satan.

I cant stand how they make people think all muslims are like them because they are not.

June 5th, 2011, 3:01 am

 

Shami said:

Islamophobic people here only mourn the moukhabarat ,amn and other lovely innocents , and when the dictator kills thousands of civilians,they applaud.

June 5th, 2011, 3:05 am

 

syau said:

Shami,

Again you are wrong, I mourn all the innocent lives lost. I mourn the deaths of the security personnel that lost their lives defending the citizens of Syria. I am not Islamaphobic, I’m Muslim, I have many Christian friends, they are not Islamaphobic either.

Islamaphobic is a term extremists use to justify their acts. Muslims are ashamed of extremists and do not applaud death as the extremists do.

June 5th, 2011, 3:22 am

 

Shami said:

SYAU ,i knew that you are muslim,do you love hezbollah and the iranian theocracy ?it’s about the mainstream islam in Syria that’s why i added alawites.
Such people love the iranian theocracy and hate Syrian mainstream islam …and most of those alawites who support asad are of that kind.

Jad for example ,you requested the killing of many people next friday and at the same time you mourned a mukhabarat ,it’s like a caricature of the great Ali Farzat.

SYAU,Asad killed thousands and thousands of innocent civilians.
What would be your opinion if after a criminal kills 30 000 alawite civilians because of shabiha past ,i come here and support him ?
Nobody can remain above the law for ever.

June 5th, 2011, 3:43 am

 

SYR.Expat said:

Have been reading this blog lately and I am finally feeling compelled to enter the fray given the latest developments.

The video showing the hanging of a security officer in Hama is very disturbing indeed. This type of barbaric behavior is unacceptable and inexcusable. Islam forbids this type of extra-judicial killing and the mutilation of bodies. Anyone condoning this type of “justice” is beyond sick.

The same applies to the killing (hundreds) ad torture (thousands) of unarmed demonstrators by the shabiha and security forces. Anyone condoning their actions is also beyond sick.

Our country is heading towards an ugly civil war in which there will be no winner, just destruction, mayhem, and grief. We need to stop this from happening.

The blame and responsibility for what is happening in Syria rests first and foremost on the shoulders of the government and the Baath party. They got us to where we are and they have the keys to the solution.

However, the opposition gets a share of the blame. “Silmieh” means “silmieh.” And while one cannot rule out agent provocateurs working for the government to try to undermine the protests, there are elements within the opposition who are engaging in all sorts of criminal activity and that’s unacceptable.

The government and opposition need to be proactive in bringing peace back to the streets. We cannot allow Syria to go the way of Iraq or Libya.

I demand a stop to the killing of protesters and security personnel. I demand a stop to torture. We need to break the cycle of violence and prevent sectarianism from rearing its ugly head.

June 5th, 2011, 3:44 am

 

syau said:

Shami,

Instead of telling you what I love, I will tell you what I hate, and that is generalisation and the idea that things are either black or white. I hate sectarianism and I hate people calling for international interference in Syria and playing right into the their hands without even realising it.

I hate how people call themselves Muslims yet go on murder spree’s and others condone it. I also hate when people declare Jihad and use it in the wrong context.
I hate this revolution and what it has done to Syria and its people.

I think the Syrian government have full right to eradicate all extremists and regain stability in Syria. The Syrian people have the right to request army intervention as they did and long for the peace they once knew to return.

If in your post above, you are referring to 1982, I have made my point clear on that in previous posts. If not, please make your point clearer

June 5th, 2011, 3:59 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

Has anybody seen the latest video supposedly showing syrian army soldiers standing on top on top of roof in deraa beside dead civilians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKUZFL5qVA&feature=player_embedded

I have made some obvious assumptions from this video. First look at the 50-60 seconds on the video. You will see the guy in the left of the screen wearing the lebanese internal security forces uniform with blue checkers. He forget that he was in the video http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?155875-Lebanese-Internal-Security-Forces-Photos/page6. Not professional enough Mr Harriri and Co.

Second, their is no syrian army emblems on the sleeves of the uniform. Third, only one soldier is wearing black boots. The others are wearing white sneakers, as if they had just come back from a disco. Third, the allawite accent that these soldiers try to fake is so obvious.To make up for his fake accent, on of the soldiers calls out to his friend “khoder”, a typical allawite name. Their dialect is typically lebanese. Too any syrian this should be obvious.

June 5th, 2011, 4:24 am

 

syau said:

Mohammed Kanj,

Your right on all points.

June 5th, 2011, 4:29 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

You better hurry up and watch the video i posted. The syrian revolution and you tube bloggers have already started editing the video and deleting the 50-60 second part from the clip. It wont be showing this part of the video clip for too long before its re – edited.

June 5th, 2011, 4:32 am

 

Sophia said:

# 41 Mohamed,

I am just wondering how army soldiers can accept being filmed in such a situation because it is obvious that they were aware of being filmed.

June 5th, 2011, 4:56 am

 

Mina said:

Shami,
As you know, most Iranians in Iran HATE the theocracy. Does it mean US and Israel should be allowed to bomb the whole country, destroy its infrastructures, its car factories?
Iraq and Libya are good examples of what these wars are meant for.

June 5th, 2011, 4:56 am

 

873 said:

Some interesting insight into the pawns of the west for “freedom” via the DoD. Now they need to use this on the jewish extremists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dldgQbb1JcE&feature=player_embedded

Understanding The Libyan Conflict [and all other ‘Arab Spring’ Uprisings]
Posted on March 21, 2011 by funvax
The conflict in Libya as well as all the recent uprisings in the middle east is not about freedom, democracy or dictators. It’s about religion, or the sudden lack of it. As we know, from the leak from Sgt. Joey Lambardi, FunVax is a vaccine that manipulates the VMAT2 gene. VMAT 2 is commonly referred to as the God Gene and that gene is being manipulated by the government.

Background of VMAT2 (the God Gene) –

Dr. Dean Hamer discovered the God Gene by analyzing the DNA of over 1,000 people. He identified a region, VMAT2, that had a specific correlation to spiritual experiences. VMAT2 codes for a vesicular monoamine transporter that plays a key role in regulating the levels of the brain chemicals serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. These monoamine transmitters are in turn postulated to play an important role in regulating the brain activities associated with spiritual beliefs.

Project FunVax –

In 2004, the government started experimenting with VMAT2. The project was titled FunVax. It stands for Fundamentalism Vaccine. After the attack on the World Trade Center and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, it became apparent that hearts and minds of the people within the Middle East would not be won…unless, people started thinking outside the box. Government scientists started manipulating the God gene. They created a “vaccine” that inhibited the God gene. The vaccine was designed to spread via air – it’s an airborne virus and is similar to the flu. It took the DoD half a decade to get it to work, but it has been released and the effects are spreading. Iraq is stable. Dictators are losing power. People are embracing democracy over theocracy.

The Proof –

Sgt. Joey Lambardi was part of an elite group called Combat Camera. It was their job to record everything that key decision makers would need to make educated decisions. Everything in the military is recorded. Raids, test flights, lectures, experiments, training sessions, aircraft maintenance, everything. So in late 2010, Joey Lambardi witnessed and taped lecture by government scientists outlying a plan to create a viral vaccine that “cures” religious fundamentalism. He is in the process of releasing this information to the public.

Crisis In Libya –

The crisis in Libya is a direct result of FunVax. The virus is spreading. First it was released in Iraq. It spread to Iran where the uprising was squashed. Then Tunisia and Eygpt…Now Libya. This is no coincidence. It’s a planned, orchestrated release of virus. A viral vaccine against religious fundamentalism. It changes the way people think and act. It’s a vaccine that can liberate people on the surface but also forces them (in ways that a dictator never could) to think a certain way…it forces them to lose their religion. What a powerful weapon!

Ethical Concerns –

Yes, its great that the people in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya are rising up against oppression. It’s amazing that the dictators and theocracies are losing control and people are becoming more free. But are they really free? They’re losing their freedom to think for themselves. They’re losing the right to choose their religion. They’re losing their religious conviction. Eventually the virus could spread to Europe and America. Then what? Are we really free if are thoughts and actions can be so easily manipulated by powerful governments? Does freewill exist if our identity can be changed like flipping a light switch?

June 5th, 2011, 5:13 am

 

Leo said:

Norman, what you call is a declaration of war and the mass killing of people. Ba3thi murderers like you should never come back to Syria.

June 5th, 2011, 5:41 am

 

Mina said:

Read a very inspiring article yesterday on the way back from Egypt,
http://213.158.162.45/~egyptian/index.php?action=news&id=18880&title=Opinion:%20The%20Gazette%20and%20the%201952%20Revolution%20%28201%29

I start to appreciate the comment of a US diplomat in one of the Wikileaks cable who treated the actual Turkish regime of Neo-Ottomanist.

June 5th, 2011, 5:56 am

 

Aboud said:

@44 Sophia

There are numerous videos of shabiha scum joyously videoing themselves trampling on defenseless people in places like Baiyda, or shouting Bashar’s name after shooting at protestors at Hom’s New Clock square (with the obligatory AK-47s in hand that seem to be a must with any chant of “Bil ro7, bil dam, blah blah ya Bashar”). In fact, a little under half of the videoed atrocities have been recorded by the shabiha scum themselves. I really don’t understand how, after 12 weeks, you can act so surprised.

As to the person who thought it strange that the soldiers wore sneakers, you obviously have no idea how poorly supplied most units in the Syrian army are. In every village they have invaded, they have had to loot from stores to keep themselves fed.

Another atrocity in a long line of atrocities. What sane person on the planet can possibly believe that this regime could possibly reform itself. How unconscionable that there are still those who defend such barbarity.

June 5th, 2011, 6:30 am

 

Revlon said:

La Ilaha Illa LLah; Chanted defiant demonstrators, besieged in the Mosque.
Abu 7afez, Abu 7afez; Replied the aggressor Security thugs and paramilitia, and threw rocks and sound explosives!

With God’s will, The higher cause shall prevail!

June 5th, 2011, 6:46 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

ABOUD –

Ok aboud, forget about the sneakers. how about the syrian army uniform emblem on the sleeves not being shown and the lebanese security forces uniform being worn in the video? give us your opinion please.

June 5th, 2011, 6:57 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

REVLON –

im sorry to tell you that we are living in the year 2011. Chanting and shouting slogans doesnt get you nowhere these days. In afghanistan the taliban loved to shout slogans constantly, and where did that get them. Unfortunately these days manpower doesnt count. Guns speak louder than those La Ilaha Illa LLah chants. After witnessing the brutal hanging of that security officer, my family and friends who are all syrian sunni’s, are behind the syrian army 10000000%. All we syrians ask for is security and peace. Democracy can come later if we choose. With these thugs and juveniles roaming the streets, their is no security. I know everyday you and your revolution internet geek buddies pray for foreign intervention. But it just wont happen mr REVLON. How do u ever think you and your thugs will overpower 500,000 security forces and 500,000 loyal syrian army personnel? By shouting La Ilaha Illa LLah ?

June 5th, 2011, 7:05 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Can someone please say what circumstances the security officer was hanged?what was he doing ,was he shooting at the people?

June 5th, 2011, 7:24 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

MajedKhaldoon –

you and your fellow internet revolution friends will come up with an excuse to say that he was a “mukhabaret” amongst them and he had a gun and tried to shoot them. this victim is obviously a moderate sunni or allawi or christian or druze. They either knew where he lived or stopped him in his car on the way to or from work. Dont worry, those 5 criminals showing their faces in the video will be captured just like the murderers of the innocent banias victim

June 5th, 2011, 7:34 am

 

syau said:

Majedkhaldoon,

What does it matter in which circumstances he was hanged. Shami suggested he was most likely a known security personnel in Hama.

He certainly does not deserve to be publically hanged and degraded further by being hit with sticks and have shoes thrown at him.

Surely you aren’t excusing or condoning this evil act too?

June 5th, 2011, 7:35 am

 

Revlon said:

Exam ID with Photograph of Martyr Mu3az AlRakkadh, High school student who fell victim to Regime’s violence in Deir Ezzor last Friday.

Al Fati7a upon his soule,
May God bless his family with solace and empower them with patience.

The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
شهيد الحرية والكبرياء :: فقيد دير الزور ::
الشهيد معاذ الركاض مواليد 01-01-1994 طالب بكالوريا كان على وشك تقديم امتحانه يتيم الأب له أخ وحيد وأخوات بنات استشهد البطل يوم الجمعة على الساعة السابعة مساءا في منطقة الجورة بدير الزور سوف يشيع جثمانه الطاهر اليوم على الساعة الخامسة من جامع المفتي بدير الزور كانت اخر كلمات ينطقها اشهد ان لا إله إلا الله

http://www.facebook.com/Syrian.Revolution#!/photo.php?fbid=10150665124170727&set=a.10150397575815727.619133.420796315726&type=1&theater

June 5th, 2011, 7:35 am

 

louai said:

Leo@ 136
do you really believe that Syrians from all walks of life are joining the demonstrations? if that the case i am the first one who is with you and from now ,who am I i to stand against what the people want? but i think its ‘ridicules’ that you think its not a sectarian uprising otherwise why not everyone is on the streets? Scared? no ,they were not scared in Hama yesterday ,not scared in Homs three weeks ago not scared in 200 villages across Syria(according to you) ,why those cowards majority are too scared?

‘Yes I am demanding sectarians from Christians and Alawites to change their tone just like I demand Sectarians from Sunni background to change theirs.’
I am doing the same but I don’t threat them! , I don’t even threat the MB, I personally want the MB to come back to Syria to practice their role of building the country .they are part of the country but they have a bloody and bad history to clean up I don’t know how they gona do that but everything is possible with constructive dialogue.

June 5th, 2011, 7:44 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Syau,Kanj:
What you said does not explain the circumstances,If you do not know then we should investigate and wait for the result.
However if he is soldier or security forces member, and he was shooting at the people then this is different situation, a soldier enter the army to defend the people not to shoot at them, .

June 5th, 2011, 7:50 am

 

louai said:

the killing hanging of this poor man that way is one thing and to justify it is another
its more criminal to justify such an act than doing it ,to do it you need to be barbaric inhuman and pure evil, but to justfy it in ANY way or for ANY reason is unexplainable ,i posted this video here and i was not sure if it was real or a fabrication ,i didn’t really believe is a reality what i couldn’t belive even more that people and not only here are trying to justify it ,i told the story in front of my Muslim friends here one Moroccan and one Egyptian i was as shocked and speechless as i was when Shami and others comments the first thing they answered both of them (he must be Amn!!) ,no comment
for me when i saw Hamza and before Daraa mass grave i was ready if the government did not convince me that it’s fabrication to change all my mind about this uprising ,how can i support someone who is able to do such thing ? as for Hamza even it make no sense for me why you need to shoot at someone then torture him or the other way around but i am still waiting the results of the investigation just as his father is.
we have deep moral problem

June 5th, 2011, 8:05 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

LOUAI – it is obvious that the only thing on the muslim brotherhood’s mind is revenge. If they take power ( maybe in the year 4090 ), than they will seek bloody revenge on every modrate sunni, christian,allawi, druze and kurd. They will want to enforce sharia law all over syrian land. No other religion will have the right to practice their religion. Islamic dress codes will be enforced throughout the country. The thousands of wahhabi religous scholars who come to syria during summer, will not be able to drink their chilled cold beer nomore. I have been to the Meridian and Sheraton in damascus. I see how the men from the Gulf wearing their outfit drink that beer. They love it.Syria is like heaven to them. They smell freedom in syria, away from their homes in the wahabbi Gulf.

June 5th, 2011, 8:07 am

 

syau said:

Majedkhaldoon,

It doesn’t matter whether he was a civilian or an officer. He does not deserve to be pubically hanged and degraded as he was, no matter what the situation was.

This behaviour cannot be excused,
there definately will be an investigation and the criminals who commited this evil act will be apprehended and will face the full force of the law.

June 5th, 2011, 8:10 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

louai
You are misbehaving,and making no sense, We need justice, if demanding justice is inhuman and barbaric and evil, ,then you are disgusting, you do not want justice, you want to confuse the issues,if the man was shooting at the people he violated the oath to defend and protect civilian,who they are his people,who ,swearing to defend the people, and was given gun, he use it against his people, I want to know the circumstances,I want justice,if he was not shooting at the people,then yes those who did it need to brought to justice and punished severely.

June 5th, 2011, 8:17 am

 

louai said:

majedkhaldoon

do you want to tell me that those people investigated then they give him a trial and the right to defend himself then they found him guilty?
this video was uploaded by them(the tribunal) and they are telling the story
in simple words أثناء تشييع الشهداء يوم السبت في حماه read the notes
– تمت القبض على هذا الجاسوس وسط المتظاهرين بعد الشك فيه وقد تم نزع ملابسه التي كان يخبئ فيها السلاح
ثم قاموا بشنقه ليكون عبرة لبشار الأسد وحزب البعث

here is the original link again

note the 81 likes and NONE dislikes it got

June 5th, 2011, 8:26 am

 

Aboud said:

@51

I saw the videos of the troops in the grass fields, behind the tanks, as they were entering Dara’a. I also found it strange that there was no emblem on their uniforms. But there was no doubt they were Syrian soldiers.

As to the Lebanese army uniform, I think there is little doubt that it is indeed a Lebanese army uniform. Remember why this video was released, for the same reason the regime releases a few prisoners after they have been brutalized and tortured; so they can tell and scare others, as a means to intimidate the Syrian people.

The video is shocking, grotesque, and alone is enough to convict Bashar and Maher of war crimes. But of course whoever created the video also had to toss a bone to the regime supporters; throw in something that looks out of place, and the regime supporters can clutch at straws that the video was a fake, despite the massive evidence to the contrary. No one who went through the trouble of killing five people is going to have a fake Lebanese uniform appear in the clip…unless it was on purpose.

And so the video gets circulated, as the regime’s clumsy way of warning people of what might happen to them (as if there isn’t a person in Syria left who doesn’t have a relative or friend who was imprisoned or shot, and knows first hand of the regime’s brutality). And a Lebanese uniform is thrown in, so that the single regime supporter on this website can go on his many anonymous characters and yell “fake”.

Every frame in this video was thought out by an evil, grotesque mind, make no mistake.

June 5th, 2011, 8:33 am

 

syau said:

#64

Your conclusion is ridiculously naive. They are not Syrian soldiers in that video. They are people affiliated with the revolution trying to dress as soldiers, as they have done in a past clip and again failed in the impersonations. Their accent is also severly off.

Stop trying to make excuses for these fabrications. The Syrian revolution have attempted many fake video’s and the all have been seen for what they are. This one is no exception, it has also been exposed in its fabrication.

June 5th, 2011, 8:43 am

 

Usama said:

If I remember correctly, there were about 850 protesters confirmed dead in the Egyptian uprising. No police or security officers were hanged. The plain-clothed thugs they caught they arrested and kept them somewhere safe to be prosecuted by the government, which was denying it had thugs. Why did Egyptians not kill them in public? Are Egyptian police nicer than Syrian police? Are Egyptian mukhabarat nicer than Syrian mukhabarat? Are Egyptians more open-minded than Syrians? I am very disturbed to know that at least 2 of the people posting here share MB ideology, if not membership.

From the article posted above by Dr. Landis:
“Asked if the new Syrian state would be secular following the end of the current administration, Riad Ghannam said that there was no contradiction between Islam and democracy. ”We can all be democrats and Muslims,” Ghannam underlined.”

That means the answer is no, not secular. Why can’t we be democrats and Muslims AND secular?

I have no problem against Islam, I really don’t know. I am Muslim and always will be, and I’m proud of it. But if this is the kind of Islam being preached in our mosques, then count me as an Islamophobic Muslim (and an anti-semitic semite, for good measure).

I can now really understand why my father avoided mosques. He had a very close friend of his who, while studying medicine at Aleppo University, met a sheikh at a mosque and was literally brainwashed. This was just before the MB events in Syria. It’s really unbelievable but many young (and often intelligent) men are really being brainwashed in mosques all over the world by very corrupt mashaikha.

Aboud, #64

I know what video you’re talking about. The soldiers were so far away you couldn’t even identify their weapons. Of course you won’t see emblems. And another thing about that video, there were so many people standing there watching, while your “eyewitness” accounts said that anyone daring to be in the street was getting shot.

June 5th, 2011, 8:45 am

 

Aboud said:

I wonder what excuses the Baathists will come up with once the names and identities of those murdered civilians become known. On Friday, 50,000 people came out in Hama, and the regime murdered over 60 of them. And what happened the next day? 100,000 people came out for the funerals, streaming in from all the villages surrounding Hama. Will Bashar ever get a clue?

June 5th, 2011, 8:59 am

 

Mohamed kanj said:

Aboud –

I just watched that video of the Syrian soldiers behind the tanks I’n the fields I’n daara. The camera is 300 meters away. How can u even get a glimpse of their uniform ? Do u have bionic eyes?

June 5th, 2011, 9:20 am

 

Revlon said:

Day 81: The Syrian Revolution is in full swing

GROUND ACTIVITIES
– All Syrian cities and neighbourhoods disadvantaged, oppressed or prosecuted by the regime have risen. Those who have not are either well to do and do not care, or are regime benefactors.
– Ground networking is growing stronger, and coordination committee leaders have taken to the air

ANTALIA INITIATIVE
– The Conference and Declaration are milestones on the road to the liberation of Syria.
– The elected consultative body need to liaise with human rights groups, to push for more sanctions and a strong UN resolution for investigation of crimes against humanity.
– The consultative body needs to lobby with EU and US leaders for declaring the regime illegitimate and call for the president to step down.
– The consultative body needs to seek a broader and stronger base of representation of both, the exile and ground forces.
Such can be achieved by calling for a “Part II conference”, perhaps in a major European city
The goal would be to form a transitional coalition government in Exile.

Allah 7urriyeh Sooriya W Bas

June 5th, 2011, 9:26 am

 

Aboud said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2LsIW9Kbc

The Syrian army entering Dar’a. During the video the cameraman zooms in. No insignias, no ranks, not even on the tanks. The absence of an insignia on the uniforms doesn’t mean zip.

Do a Google image search for Syrian Army, and see how many have any sort of identifying insignia. Very very few. Not the unit, not the ranks, not even the country.

Especially illuminating is this image

http://www.bighaber.com/haber/syrian-army-pulls-back-in-deraa-advances-elsewhere-810398.html

Do you know how it’s so easy to spot the same person posting under different names? He uses the same argument. “300 meters” in two different posts.

June 5th, 2011, 9:45 am

 

Mohamed Kanj said:

ABOUD – are you really that dumb and confused. It just proves how uneducated and ignorant you are. The picture you posted was supposedly taken in banias.U remember the “banias” and not in derra. The famous banias video, which was filmed in Lebanon Tripoli also. Wake up boy. You even admit that it was a lebanese security forces uniform in the video i posted. Do you know that Harirri controls the security forces? Are you really brainwashed? So your story is that Harriri’s men fabricated this video to help the Syrian army in scaring off the people? hahahahaha what u been smoking

June 5th, 2011, 9:56 am

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

Let me brief you on what is really happening in Syria. It looks that many people in the West do not understand the situation.

The Syrian regime has decided to pursue the 10 million vs. 10 million scenario that I advocated. This is a very responsible and patriotic decision. They will fight to preserve the country united. This is not different from Lincoln’s decision to wage a bloody war against the other half of his nation in 1861.

Thousands of people are being armed. The regime is creating huge militias (perhaps up to 500,000 loyal fighters will be available).

The regime is setting now the political ground for the war. Last week, they issued a pardon for MB members, and they agreed to return properties that were confiscated from MB members in the 1980’s. As expected, the MB responded with a huge escalation in Hama on Friday. Some factions of the MB may be willing to compromise with the regime, but it is obvious that the radical Hamwi branch that is currently leading the MB (Shaqfe, Arour, etc.) do not want to compromise. They are not hiding their intentions. Just watch Arour on Wissal TV.

Therefore, it is obvious that the regime will not reach a political compromise with the Islamist rebels. They already gave all the political concessions they could give. This is what the Russian foreign minister meant when he said that the West was making it impossible for a political solution to be reached in Syria.

The regime is now working to create a united front against the Islamists. They already have the Kurds closer to their side (the Kurds are not fans of the Islamists), but the alliance with the Kurds still needs further negotiation. I believe the regime will eventually strike a deal with the Kurds. It is not hard to please them. If the regime licenses Kurdish parties and allows them to compete in elections, the Kurds will support the regime. I am sure of that.

Some Syrian tribes are loyal to Saudi Arabia (these are the tribes that are currently making trouble in Deir Az-Zor). I am not expert on tribes, but I think the regime can keep some tribes on its side by manipulating tribal feuds and competition. There are tribes that will definitely remain loyal to the regime, like the tribes that are currently subduing the Islamists in Aleppo. These are very effective and loyal tribes.

The regime can please 50% of the nation. The other 50% will never be pleased, like Hama events showed. Arour was frank– they will never accept to even talk to the regime. We knew this from day 1, but the regime had to convince its Russian allies with it. In my opinion, the MB pardon was only meant to convince Russia that there was no possibility for a political solution.

Like we foresaw weeks ago, the rebellion will keep growing until all the Islamists join (50% of the nation). The regime and its supporters will fight and subdue the Islamists by force. The regime was unable so far to subdue the rebels, but as more armed people join the security forces, the Islamists should eventually be subdued.

As long as Russia understands the Syrian situation, Syria will probably survive, and the West will lose. (Russia understands the situation as their comments show. They blame the West and the rebels for what is happening, not the regime. This is very significant. If Russia and China do not buy the Western story, then there will not be global sanctions on Syria, and the regime will survive).

The economic danger is exaggerated. Syria was never an open economy anyway. They are adapted to isolation. Iraq in the 1990’s had a horrible economy, yet Saddam survived. The way some people present the economic danger to Syria is just part of the propaganda campaign.

June 5th, 2011, 10:04 am

 

Aboud said:

@71

Your tears are delicious. Baathists should realize that when they post excuses for the regime, they aren’t on Dunya or Syrian TV, where the Syrian village of Baida can become Iraq or Tripoli overnight.

June 5th, 2011, 10:06 am

 

Abughassan said:

I referred to multiple incidents of murders and destructive acts committed by thugs in the name of freedom. I am really sad to see that some syrians in 2011 are still embracing violence and even celebrating it by taking photos and videos.
Syrians have suffered a lot due to a corrupt and oppressive regime but they managed to keep the country in one piece and has not copied the Lebanese or the Iraqi model yet. Allowing people to hang alleged regime criminals and assassinate officers,and their kids too,will turn Syria into another Iraq. Even if the army gets divided,that leaves Syria with over a million armed soldiers and security officers and a huge pile of weapons.
This uprising made a strong statement and changed Syria forever but this is not the time for revenge killing and massive demonstrations,give cool heads on all sides a chance or be ready to mourn that beautiful country called Syria..

June 5th, 2011, 10:18 am

 

haz said:

It’s not a Lebanese army uniform. It’s the angle of the sun over-exposing the footage before the camera can adjust. Think about it – if you were a Lebanese soldier on a top secret mission into Syria to give under cover help to an insurgency, would you wear a bright blue Lebanese uniform? Or would you wear a green Syrian style uniform that you can have made for a few hundred lira anywhere in the Middle East?
If the foreign insurgents are so stupid as to wear foreign army uniforms while they do their secret insurgenting, how have they managed to sustain the uprising for so long?

June 5th, 2011, 10:21 am

 

Mohamed kanj said:

HAZ –

U said “secret insurgenting” . Wtf. Which dictionary did that come from? You must belong to the revolution obviously. Trade ur email with Aboud and revlon and than maybe you will all be able to chant sectariAn slogans together

June 5th, 2011, 10:52 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Clinton said Assad is inching close to loose its legitimacy.
The truth is Assad was never lrgitimate president, he was not elected by fair election and in a democratic enviroment, he was forced on us by security forces that his father created,the country wide uprising in Syria proved that many people are against him, his only supporters are the opportunistic,people who actually are not Baath member,and the assadic Alawite,how could a president came this way, at 34 year old,,where there is no freedom how can he call himself legitimate.
I am surprised that all those assadic alawites are calling themselves Sunni now, enough deceiving.
King Abdullah II, said Assad is in charged,and he is the one calling the shot,So he is responsible for his regime crimes,he is the protector of the assad family power,he should be charged with all the crimes that are committed under his name.

Lately Assad is trying to divide the opposition,wooing the kurds,he is trying to avoid sending his murderous brother Liuaa,the fourth division to far places like Qamishly or Hassake,The kurds are smart , and they will disappoint Bashar.

June 5th, 2011, 11:07 am

 

Usama said:

Haz,

In contrast, why don’t you just think about it – if you were a Syrian soldier/security officer, why would you tape yourself and colleagues in the middle of such a gruesome scene and while planting false evidence? Common sense buddy.

Such videos don’t scare people. Such videos anger people. When watching such videos, the average person doesn’t look at the details. The material is so shockingly graphic that the viewer will naturally forget to observe the details.

Aboud,

Those soldiers are wearing vests over their uniform. Unfortunately, military vests are not see-through. The picture you showed us only helps to increase the questioning of the video from which it came from.

And by the way, the tanks are clearly marked “al-jaish”.

Souri,

You are assuming those animals have waaaaaaaay too much of a following. Trust me, they are no where close to 10 million. They are no where close to 1 million. The problematic centers are also shifting over with time, so it’s clear the same people are fleeing to different areas. Otherwise, why wouldn’t they all rise at once? I’m talking about the armed and criminal elements, not the non-criminal civilians.

June 5th, 2011, 11:17 am

 
 

Usama said:

WD

Last time I checked state TV, it went up to 11 dead + 220 injured.

June 5th, 2011, 11:26 am

 

Sophia said:

# 80 WD,

Up to eleven have been reported killed. IDF fires at protesters in the Golan. Will there be international condemnation? No.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-up-to-11-palestinians-killed-as-hundreds-of-syrian-protesters-storm-israel-border-1.366068

June 5th, 2011, 11:31 am

 

why-discuss said:

AP AIG DALEANDERSEN

Can equality exist in the Jewish state?
As right-wingers dominate the Knesset, Arab citizens of Israel say institutional discrimination is getting worse.
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/06/2011648192849821.html

…For decades, Israel has been able to defend the scandals with the justification that quality of life is higher for Arabs living in Israel than it is in the Occupied Territories. Knesset Member Zouabi argues the claim is disingenuous. “We should not be compared with the West Bank after 40 years of Israeli Occupation has destroyed its economy, any more than we should be compared with Britain or the US,” she said. “We demand equality with Jews, not to live as second class citizens.”

June 5th, 2011, 11:40 am

 

why-discuss said:

SOPHIA

An international condamnation? on Israel? Of course not.It will be an international condamnation on Syria whose land is occupied. Israel has the right to defend “its floating borders”.

June 5th, 2011, 11:44 am

 

aboali said:

I would like to remind everyone, that the Syrian regime has killed more Syrians(Hama 82+this revolution) than the Israeli’s have during all the wars … that includes civilian and military. What do you think of that little fact eh?

June 5th, 2011, 11:50 am

 

Abughassan said:

More unrest is likely and more pressure will go in israel’s direction. Saying that this is done to relieve the Syrian regime does not change the fact that it is time for Israel to play by the rules applied on everybody else. Let us see what freedom-loving governments are going to respond now !!

June 5th, 2011, 11:54 am

 

Abughassan said:

This is not the time to bring statements that can only make israel’s ugly face look better. Arabs must clean their own house and resist Israel at the same time. Israel and dictatorships are on the same page in many cases. Do not criticize one and give the other a break. We know better.

June 5th, 2011, 11:59 am

 

jad said:

Shami,
You will never change, even when you try, you will always be the same person who is full of hate and who will never ever become a useful citizen to have any dialogue with, you will always depend on attacking people and make up false stories and change what people write only to justify your usual cheap attacks. I advised you many times before that you need to grow up instead of ‘morally’ staying down where you are.

You wrote this:

“Jad for example ,you requested the killing of many people next friday and at the same time you mourned a mukhabarat ,it’s like a caricature of the great Ali Farzat.”

Here is what I wrote:

“It seems that the regime toke the decision, it’s going toward a full scale confrontation, next Friday will be extremely bloody toward any kind of violence when and if it happened even more than last Friday.
The regime is saying that they gave the oppositions lots of what they called for without any calming sign, the regime won’t give them anything more, until they show some restrain, period.

من يوم الأربعاء الماضي 1 حزيران 2011 صدرت تعليمات لقوات الأمن وعناصر الجيش كالتالي:
“يسمح استخدام السلاح دفاعا عن النفس والمنشآت العامة والخاصة , وتم تسليم جميع العناصر الأسلحة والذخيرة المطلوبة لتنفيذ هذه التعليمات”

Anybody can see that:

1- I didn’t request the killing of anybody, what I linked is a piece of news from FB not my words to warn of a full scale confrontation next Friday, and not to ‘request’ the killing.

2- Putting a news doesn’t mean that you support it, it means that you want to share it with others to give some information for others to understand the situation better.

3- Mourning any person, ‘Moukhabarat’ ‘Soldier’ and ‘civilian’ is mourning a ‘Human being’ that you apparently don’t understand the meaning of it.

4- The only ‘caricature’ is your highness Shami.

5- I feel sorry for you.

June 5th, 2011, 12:09 pm

 

Leo said:

Louai @ 58,

The demonstrators are not just MB or Sunni extremists. For example in Salamiya, a town of Shiite majority, rose up against the regime. You have many Christians, Alawites, Kurds, Assyrians who were rose up and joined everyone else.

Major figures in the opposition like Aref Dalila are Alawites. They were opposing the regime for decades. Anwar Bunni & Michel Kilo are also opposition figures from Christian background. All three went to jail for no reason. Can you tell me why did the regime jail an academic, lawyer, and a journalist respectively? There are numerous other cases like these.

I did not ‘threat’ anyone. I simply warned all the secterians from any background that their call to violence and murder will only bring havoc to them, their community, and eventually all of Syria. Everyone is responsible for everything they say. Norman earlier called for the murder of more people, and has continued to incite people to murder because he is a ba3thi fascist. People who commit crimes will not be able to run away from justice.

June 5th, 2011, 12:10 pm

 

Sophia said:

From Angry Arab: The Belgium Conference.

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/06/belgium-conference.html

“The Muslim Brotherhood funded the Syrian opposition conference in Belgium. Like the conference in Antalya, Christians, `Alawites, and leftists were not invited. There was a clear attempt to include the dreadful reactionary elements of the tribal elders, and the pro-Saudi Salafites of course who run the show but who hide their influence from the final communique (just as Ahmad Chalabi–one of the most sectarian Shi`ites in Iraq today–used to pose as secular in pre-2003 Western capitals). When I see tribal elders, I get a strong physical reaction. These have always been tool of colonialism: witness their revival in Iraq under American occupation. And now, the tribal elders are being revived by Saudi-US plots for the region. Those of us who support the downfall of the Syrian regime, should be mindful that there should be an instant struggle to rescue the affairs of the Syrian state from the most reactionary forces represented by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood (one of the most opportunist and corrupt organizations in Arab opposition movements).”

I now have my answer to a question I asked in the comment section of the last post and the question was adressed to Leo:

Were there any Alawites, Christians or sunnis representing sunnis in Syria at the Antalya conference? The answer is NO. And for that matter there were neither leftists nor liberals (as Leo sugegsted). So we basically end up with the MB and their US sponsors at these Opposition conferences.

June 5th, 2011, 12:10 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Aboali

“What do you think of that little fact eh?”
Israeli are such sweet people, they did not killed too many Syrians! Thank you Israel from sparing us when you were killing palestinian children in Gaza with your bombs!

June 5th, 2011, 12:12 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Today, Sunday 5 June:
25 reported killed in crackdown in northern Syria

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=NYONI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Israeli troops have fired (…) killing as many as 14 people

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_PALESTINIANS?SITE=NYONI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
.

June 5th, 2011, 12:13 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Majedalkhadoon

“Kurdish Leftist Party representative Saleh Kado stressed that ‘we, the Kurds in Syria, do not trust Turkey or its policies, and that is why we have decided to boycott the summit.’ Kado also said part of the reason for the boycott was the attendance of the Muslim Brotherhood.

But other reasons have also surfaced. Two weeks ago the National Movement of Kurdish Parties in Syria announced its own plan to resolve the current crisis in Syria. The Kurdish initiative, which outlined a comprehensive plan for democratic change and fundamental reform at all levels, was largely ignored by non-Kurdish groups.

http://supportkurds.org/news/turkish-policy-towards-kurds-leads-to-boycott-of-antalya-conference-by-kurdish-parties-in-syria/

June 5th, 2011, 12:27 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

AP AIG DALEANDERSEN

Can equality exist in the Jewish state?

WD (#83),

Thanks for asking. I guess I’m not sure what inequality you and MK Zouabi are referring to.

June 5th, 2011, 12:36 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Leo
I have a lot of Christians friends,can you tell me which mosq we should gather infront this Friday after you finish your being charged by your imams?do you have an outlet outside so we can be charged while we weight for you outside?also if you know of any public hanging soon we would love to attend?if you have any sticks bring with you so we can together climb the pole and hit the body together and shoe the world our unity ?

June 5th, 2011, 12:39 pm

 

Usama said:

AP

I already mentioned some of the systematic inequalities, and my post was directed at you. Here it is in case you missed it: http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=10087&cp=all#comment-253974

Those are just a few examples of the systematic inequalities.

June 5th, 2011, 12:51 pm

 

simon said:

what I am witnessing now in my country is raising many questions: If these people who are claiming to be a pro-Democracy for real, why don’t they go out every day and call for it? or maybe they are doing it at their leisure time ,once a week when they are free on Friday, if anything ,this is proving my point that they are bunch of riots who detests Syria and want to destroy it, they are blinded by vindictiveness, short sighted, used by the west and their agendas, they are refusing the national dialogues, corrupted by their medieval and mental ideas.
I am so angry to carry on writing.

June 5th, 2011, 12:53 pm

 

Usama said:

To those of you interested in learning more about the Salafi threat in the region and how they seemed to be growing in numbers recently in Egypt, the channel al-`Alam has a show that has been focusing on it lately. It is a discussion with an actual Salafi leadership personality present. Their discussions have been very informative (and often embarrassing to the Salafi) about the roots, origins, and policy of Salafi groups.

http://www.alalam.ir/programs/TahtAlromad

More specifically:
http://www.alalam.ir/content/52411
http://www.alalam.ir/content/52421

June 5th, 2011, 1:07 pm

 

ss said:

Comments: 63, 78

Its becomeing repetitive language the opposition is using. Should step down, should leave, clinton said, king saudi said, bla, blah, blahh. Kurds will disappoint Assad, blah, blah, same thing every single day in SC, same Fridays, same boring hopeless revolution anxiously waiting for the west to attack. Superficial people amongst the revolution who are moving the streets from outside, from their heaven, secure places sending thousands of Syrians to face death.

The reality is that the regime is extremely strong and will not be going anywhere

The regime wants things to calm down as this is destroying the lives of many Syrians who are griefing the days of security and peace. The opposition wants to keep escalating the events to bring the west in which will not happen for many reasons:

1. Saudi and USA thought that Syria will fall in weeks similar to Egypt and Tunisia. Guess what, that did not happen. Time is the enemy of Saudis now, because they will be the next target of these Radical islamists gaining power by minute. Yemen is gone

2. Saudi now is scared of the growing influece of Radicals who are gaining power from all that unrest in Syria, Yemen, ….They are afraid that they will be on the menue for these bloody, meat eaters, Islamic radicals. They are afraid of the domino effect and there turn might be soon

3. If the west decided to attack, I am sure that the minute a missle will be fired in Syria, Israel, Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain will be on fire. German Chancelor was forced to fly over Turkey for two hours by Iran. Iran is a powerful country, and is a strong allience of Syria. They do know that a western attack on Syria means that HA will be the next target. Iran will never ever allow that to happen, and the gulf would be the target of unrest, massive unrest and uprise of the shia in the mentioned countries

4. The minute missles would be fired on Syria, you will hear attacks inside Israel. Israel was not able to keep up with the 2006 war and will not handle such an escalation today.

5. The revolution is looking for hopes from Erdogan. Erdogan is a political man, his party is runing for reelection soon and the last thing he wants to to side against the MB and the radical Islamists. I believe he is trying to gain the support of the MB and radical islamists to be at his side during the election. Erdogan as a politician will be the last one to wish for western invasion or attack on Syria. Moreover, I feel myself even stupid when I refer to western invasion because this will never ever be a reality.

Unfortunately, will be left to deal with many Fridays to come, and God only knows when it will eventually end

June 5th, 2011, 1:16 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

USAMA,

There’s no institutionalized discrimination of Israeli Arab citizens. There are of course inequalities, but it mostly has to do with cultural matters. The two poorest segments in the Israeli society are Arab and ultra Orthodox religious families. This is because Arab women and Jewish religious men do not go to work, while at the same time have lots of kids.

Arabs do serve in the IDF. Those who wish to, and swear allegiance to the state. Druze, Bedouin, Cherkasy, and many more who volunteer to two years in the civil service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDforETfMBE&feature=player_embedded
.

June 5th, 2011, 1:24 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Usama
You said Salafist threat,you quoted Al-Alam Channel,I am sure you are aware that Al Alam is iranian channel, Iran is spewing anti Arabic propaganda,they themselves hate Sunni,and never spare a chance to attack Sunni, this comes from their jealousy that Islam came in Arabic language, and it was the prophet Muhammad (Arabic) who told us about Islam, they while they believe in Allah and Muhammad they distorted Islam, They said they believe in Quraan,If you read Israa Sourah, at the end it clearly says that God has no son no partner, AND NO WALI,yet they violate Quraan changing it and they believe as Ali is WALI, even that Ali himself when some people came to him and told him they consider him WALI he stood un angry and told never to say that again,and he told them he never want to see them again, and to avoid that, just before he died ,he told his son HASAN,to bury him in unknown place so no one put shrine in his burial place, and Hassan did that, the place where they think it is his tomb, is a place where Harun Al Rashid was hunting and there the dog bark a lot,so someone suggested it is Ali tomb,
I admire and respect Iran position on the Arab Israeli conflict, and for that I like Hassan Nasrallah.

Aboali;
Israel is our enemy,I would never say that what you said, Israel is the cause of most evil in the Middle East.

June 5th, 2011, 1:38 pm

 

Leo said:

Syria no kandahar,

You do not need my approval to go out and demonstrate for a Syria free from tyranny and brutality. You need to ask the regime why they are shooting at unarmed civilians. Did someone prevent you from demonstrating from your house or church? No, therefore what are you whining about?

June 5th, 2011, 2:05 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

The rescue came to Bashar,would he take advantage of it?
علمت وكالة (آكي) الإيطالية للأنباء من أوساط المعارضة السورية في الداخل أنه “بدأ حراك أمس (السبت) من قبل بعض أطراف المعارضة السورية مهمته الدعوة إلى عقد مؤتمر مفتوح للمعارضة في الداخل يحضره من يريد من المعارضة السورية، أحزاباً ولجان وهيئات، ودون شروط مسبقة فيما بينها، وفي مكان يتفق عليه لاحقاً، على أن يكون المؤتمر علنياً حتى لو اعتبرت السلطة ذلك تحديًالها.
ووفقا لهذه الأوساط فإن المؤتمر “سيبحث في بيان يمثل اتفاق الحد الأدنى، وسيركز على موضوعين أساسيين”، أولهما إجرائي، وهو “المطالبة بسحب القوات المسلحة وإيقاف العنف والقتل فوراً وإخراج جميع المعتقلين السياسيين ومعتقلي التظاهرات من السجون السورية بشكل جدي وفوري”، والثاني يتعلق ببرنامج الحد الأدنى للمعارضة أي “المطالبة بنظام ديمقراطي تمثيلي تشاركي تداولي تعددي يؤكد على الفصل بين السلطات” المختلفة

June 5th, 2011, 2:07 pm

 

Usama said:

Majed, I know it is an Iranian channel but I never felt that it was sectarian. In the discussion they have an actual Salafi leadership personality from their new party in Egypt. Both sides get to offer views and defend their positions. Give it a chance. I honestly never heard al-`Alam saying anything against Sunnis as a people. They are against the leadership of Arab Gulf countries, as most of us are.

I honestly don’t know the details of the Shi`a faith, but I thought the belief was that Ali should have been the wali (next in line) to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) (and not to God) but he stepped aside for Abu Bakr to avoid internal conflict.

But either way that should be irrelevant to this discussion. The main point is to ask what the real intentions of the Salafi movement are, and who is funding it. It is one thing to advocate for Islamic rule, but it is a completely other thing to mold Islam to your liking and then apply that onto everyone in a diverse country.

June 5th, 2011, 2:13 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Leo
My brain did.
This unarmed civilians story you keep telling,don’t tell to syrians they will laugh at you.All over Syria there is no peacefull revolutions except the Kurdish ones,if you think by constantly lying you will believe yourself then that is ok.your gangs and barbaric friends every Friday after having few Alaaroor tabletes given to them by mini-Aroor imams,go around terrifying Christian neighborhoods and threaten them if they don’t join there jihad.There is big difference between light and dark.Most of the elements of the Syrian society are with light unfortunately dark and evil jennies are on sale these days .Assad and the government are not the issue,the issue is being civilized in expressing your views or being barbaric.Abarbaric trash (revulution)will generate what?

June 5th, 2011, 2:21 pm

 

aboali said:

Israel kills Syrians and Palestinians(it’s enemies) but not it’s own people. The Syrian regime kills thousands of it’s own people for daring to demand their freedom and rights, go figure.

June 5th, 2011, 2:21 pm

 

jad said:

فليحاكم مجرموا حماه: محمد المفلح، وقتلة رجل الأمن
http://www.bassam-alkadi.com/content/view/581/80/
الكاتب بسام القاضي
05/ 06/ 2011

هو رئيس فرع الأمن العسكري في حماه، الذي حاول أهل حماه، عبر أيام وأسابيع، إيصال صوتهم بضرورة نقله فورا لانكشاف تحضيره لتفريغ حقد أعمى ضدهم، دون أن يجدوا أذنا واحدة تصغي لتكات القنبلة الموقوتة التي فجرها يوم الجمعة الماضي (3/حزيران/2011)، حين أمر فتح النار على المسعفين، فسقط العشرات منهم مضرجا بدمائه! (شاء شبيحة الموالاة أن يعترفوا بذلك، أم أنكروا).

وهم مجموعة من القتلة المجرمين الذين أمسكوا بعنصر من عناصر الأمن، بقتلوه شر قتلة، ثم جرجروه وعلقوا حبل المشنقة في جثته، وبدؤوا يرفعونه على عمود الكهرباء في حقد وتشف يهون أمامه أشد انحطاط يمكن أن يصل له كائن ما! (شاء شبيحة المعارضة أن يتعرفوا بذلك أم أنكروا).

– هو مجرم من الذين قادوا سورية خلال الفترة الماضية لتكون مسرحا لغضب الناس (عاطف نجيب، أمجد عباس، فيصل كلثوم.. وغيرهم). واشرعوا أبواب سورية لكل مجرم من كل لون، ودفعوها دفعا لتكون متاحة للاستغلال من كل مجرم دولي (الجيوش الغربية) تلعق لعابها اليوم!

– وهم مجرمون، من أصولين وغير أصولين، قتلوا وروعوا الناس من مدينة إلى أخرى، ودفعوا الأطفال إلى الشوارع ليس ليتظاهروا فحسب، بل ليتم توظيفهم كجزء من خطة الإجرام التي وجدت الفرصة سانحة لها!

– هو مجرم لا يريد النظام أن يعترف أنهم مجرمون يقودون النظام وسورية نفسها إلى الهاوية!
– وهم مجرمون لا تريد المعارضة أن تعترف أنهم يقودون المعارضة وسورية نفسها إلى الهاوية!

– هو وجه لجريمة قذرة يندى لها جبين الإنسان، إن كان قد بقيت فيه ذرة من إنسانية!
– وهم وجه آخر لجريمة قذرة يندى لها جبين الإنسان، إن كان قد بقيت فيه ذرة إنسانية!

وجهان للموت.. قادا سورية نحو كارثة قد يكون الغد فيها.. دون غد!
وجهان للموت مدعومان بصمت وإنكار النظام للدور الرهيب الذي يقوم به المجرمون باسم الأمن! وبصمت المثقفين ومنافقي المعارضة وشبيحتها وإنكارهم للدور الرهيب الذي يقوم به المجرمون باسم الحرية!

مجرمان يعيثان الآن فسادا في الأرض السورية! مجرمان لن يردعهما أحد سوى الشعب السوري! لن يردعهما سوى وقوف كل السوريين صفا واحدا ضد الجريمة من أي نحو جاءت، وتحت أي مسمى!
فجزء لا يتجزأ من هذا الواقع انقسام سورية إلى منكرين لهذه الجريمة، أو منكرين لتلك..
وبين هذا الإنكار وذاك.. بات العمى هو من يقود حياتنا نحو الموت المحقق….

فليعلن كل سوري وسورية إدانتهم التامة لكل الاصولية المسلحة المجرمة، وكل أشكال الإجرام والحقد القذر الحرية، وكل استخدام للإطفال أو سماح لهم بأن يكونوا وقودا لأمراء الحرب!
وليعلن كل سوري وسورية إدانتهم التامة لكل مجرم من النظام، وكل أشكال الإجرام والحقد القذر باسم الأمن، وكل عنف يوجه نحو الأطفال!

سورية لنا أيها المجرمون.. ومهما عثتم فسادا، فلن تكون إلا لنا: للمدنية، للمواطنة، للديمقراطية، للحرية، للأمن، للأستقرار..

*- ملاحظة خاصة بـ”الديمقراطي” أيمن عبد النور:
وفق حقوق الملف، فإنه لا يحق لك، ولا لموقعك المسمى “كلنا شركاء” إعادة نشر كل أو جزء من هذه المقالة أو أية مقالة أنشرها، أو الاقتباس منها، نظرا لتاريخ موقعك الأسود في تشويه الحقائق بانتزاع الاقتباسات أو أخذ أجزاء تخدم تصوراتك المريضة حول الديمقراطية. وأنت من رفض نشر البيان المضاد لمؤتمر التآمر في أنطاليا، ورددت بالحرف الواحد: “هذا ممكن اذا سمحت السلطات السورية لهم ان يعقدوا المؤتمر في سوريا او لامثالكم بتشكيل مجموعة كبيرة وعقد مؤتمر ؟؟”.
وأنت الذي قام بتشويه المقالة المعنونة بـ”لمى عباس وعمار عبد الحميد: رائحتان لحفرة الموت نفسها”،
http://www.bassam-alkadi.com/content/view/557/80/
وحذف كل ما يتعلق بالشبيح عمار عبد الحميد، تاركا ما يتعلق بلمى عباس، خدمة لأغراض أيمن عبد النور “الديمقراطية”!!

June 5th, 2011, 2:48 pm

 

Syria no kadahar said:

MinahemAli
So let’s stretch brains a bit :
Take your friends from bab alsba,jasem,Talbessa,Hama,banias,just alshoghor….give them all Alaaroor tablets three times a day and move them to isreal and assume there was a government there lead by somebody who is أسير his sector as per قرداوي.what is going to happen?
Again it is an issue of civilizations,syrians who have given the world civilization are being chalanged by a group of barbaric thugs who no nothing about democracy or civilization.
By the way aboali if you apply for asraeli citizenship you would’t get for the above reason ,although you admire there civilization,they no that by you supporting public hanging you don’t have enough civilization to pass,if you apply for Saudi one you will be rejected also because you areشكفة سوري

June 5th, 2011, 2:48 pm

 

Mina said:

Some things may finally move!
http://youtu.be/qLY3ImE37cA

يا حسن نصرالله بكل احترامي اليك انزل صور الخميني و لك الجنة

June 5th, 2011, 2:55 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 99 Amir,

No institutionalised discrimination in Israel against its Arab citizens? There is plenty of facts and reports to the contrary and even some of the laws are uphold and legitimnised by your supreme court.

http://www.fidh.org/Racial-Discrimination-concerns-must-be-taken

June 5th, 2011, 3:00 pm

 

Norman said:

Leo, as majid says , you are a liar,

This is what I said,

((( 5. Norman said:

Hey Leo,

you really scare me, just remember that in Egypt and during the revolution, The West was worry about the MB , but were told that they are a maximum of 25%, only to see that they got 80% of the vote for the changes they want in the constitution, so no sir i do not trust you or the MB to seek equal rights for all Syrians, you would have accepted Bashar Assad for his policies of saving Syria from an American occupation after the occupation of Iraq, fighting off the American prescience in Iraq, fighting for the rights of the Palestinians and supporting Gaza when all your Arab Muslim brothers enforced the blockade against Gaza, support Hezbollah with arms so it can stand and defeat Israel, Yes sir you are the worst of what Syria has, and after what your criminals did in Hama, it is time for the army to inter Hama or even better surround it and go house to house and clean it up from the criminals that you call brothers,

Don’t you ever threaten me boy and that is you are )))

As you can see, i did not call to murder anybody,

This what you said,on June 4th,

((Norman, Majority of Sunnis do not want an Islamic state nor do they support MB. What you say about the opposition is nonsense. First of all opposition consists of all Syrians from all backgrounds, including allawites. In Antalya the opposition forced the MB NOT to reject the secularism and to accept a future civil state where everyone is equal. Any other talk about generalizations coming from you as a Christian will only backfire and I hope you change your tone because Sunni Seculars and those atheists from Sunni background are trying really hard to marginalize the extremists (who do not constitute much anyhow), (( but if you and your fellow sectarians and fear mongers will continue to trash talk then you can only blame your selves.))

This last part seems to be a threat, don’t you think or you are too cowered to admit it,

This is what you said today, Can you see how bad of a liar you are,

((( I did not ‘threat’ anyone. I simply warned all the secterians from any background that their call to violence and murder will only bring havoc to them, their community, and eventually all of Syria. Everyone is responsible for everything they say. Norman earlier called for the murder of more people, and has continued to incite people to murder because he is a ba3thi fascist. People who commit crimes will not be able to run away from justice.

June 5th, 2011, 12:10 pm ))

So yes you threaten people and call for the punishment of the minorities for what they say, and lie about it and you democracy, you do not deserve boy,you don’t.

June 5th, 2011, 3:05 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 105 Aboali,

“Israel kills Syrians and Palestinians(it’s enemies) but not it’s own people.” This is very naive. How do you call a mandatory military service for the youth when you launch major wars often and when you refuse to make peace with your neighbours. I call this ‘killing its own people’. This is one of the major reasons people who make Aliya don’t stay in Israel, they emigrate to Canada and the states afterward. Israel is having a hard time retaining its population because of this.

There are many ways in which a country can kill its own people, waging interminable wars is one of them. If any other demcoractic country on earth is in a continual state of war, its citizen will end up making a revolution but Israel’smoderate citizens are leaving the country and its population today is an extremist one and its government is an extremist government. Since the break down of the Oslo accords, Israel is under one party rule uniting left and right joined only by their extremist attitude toward Arabs and Palestinians. Israel doesn’t kill ist citizen who do not agree with its policies but they let them go. Every Israeli has another citizenship and they can all go and live elsewhere.

June 5th, 2011, 3:10 pm

 

jad said:

No wonder for people not seeing the tragedy when someone like Mr. Haj Saleh, justify the public killing by saying it’s not right to blame the victims!? I wonder if that person they hanged is his brother, would he also write the same sentence.

“Yassin Al Haj Saleh
لا يحق لمن سكتوا على قتل فوق 100 شهيد أن يفتعلوا الصدمة حيال إعدام المحتجين رجل أمن. إعدامه مدان حقا وفعلا، لكنه يحتاج إلى ضمير غير ملوث بالدم. وإلا فهو من قبيل لوم الضحايا على أخطائهم.”

If those writers we respect in our society lost morals and support blood and revenge, then every citizen should take his right by himself regardless of right or wrong…let’s live in the jungle then.

June 5th, 2011, 3:15 pm

 

aboali said:

111 Your attempt to justify the Syrian regime’s massacre of it’s own people is pathetic. If it treated us even half as well as Israel treats it’s citizens there would have been no revolution at all.

June 5th, 2011, 3:19 pm

 

Sophia said:

Haaretz: Time to give Iran the carrot. Iran is more rational and more democratic than Saudi Arabia
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/instead-of-a-stick-time-to-give-iran-the-carrot-1.365974

# 133 Aboali,

“Your attempt to justify the Syrian regime’s massacre of it’s own people is pathetic. If it treated us even half as well as Israel treats it’s citizens there would have been no revolution at all.”

I am not Trying to jutisfy anything, I am answering your uncritical view of Israel. Moreover, Israel doesn’t treat its citizen well, it only treats its Jewish citizens well. So Israel is no role model.

June 5th, 2011, 3:35 pm

 
 

Badr said:

Assad and the government are not the issue,the issue is being civilized in expressing your views or being barbaric.

So if I stand at a major street corner in a Syrian city, holding a sign that reads “Let’s have a free, fair and transparent presidential and parliamentary elections, after a transitional period.”, no one from the security apparatus will bother me. Yeah right!

June 5th, 2011, 3:47 pm

 

aboali said:

Violence breeds violence, and lynch mobs on the streets of Syria is a natural reaction to the regime’s brutality and excessive use of violence. People seeing their loved ones and friend’s shot dead before their eyes aren’t going to be in the mood for peaceful protests.

June 5th, 2011, 3:53 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Badr
If you talk to people in Syria these days nobody gives dam about that kind of stuff any more.
In most of western countries you have to have a permit to do things like that ,an application,location,insurance….etc.
You can say what you want in democratic countries but if they know that you are serious and you have plan,they will wipe there you know what with democracy.

June 5th, 2011, 4:02 pm

 

Leo said:

Norman, this is what you said in the last article comment #56:

56. Norman said:
“Moe,
The opposition program is , We are Sunni Muslims and because of that we are the majority, we are entitled to take the country any direction we want, Sharia law, Islamic state all others are minorities and do not have the same rights….”

This is how YOU want to portray the opposition, from your own sectarian lens, that they are all Sunni extremists. You can’t seem to realize that there many others who despise the regime because they think like you do, in a bigoted and racist way, because you do have your share of prejudice against the Kurds and assume they are all Arabs.

Then, in the comments of this article, your post #5, you mentioned that they need to go to Hama, surround it, and go in door to door hunting down ‘criminals’.
You want to commit another massacre Norman. Hama massacre, with over 20,000 deaths, happened because people thought like you did.

Sophia,

The list of people attending Antalya are all available. You can check the names yourself and see how it was represented from all factions of society. The event was also opened for all Syrian opposition, with the exception of ex-regime ba3thi fascists like Khaddam and Rifaat who you guys would kiss their asses for generations, without the guts to criticize, and then overnight they become the devil because they left the regime.

June 5th, 2011, 4:06 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Angry Sophia,

I find it hard and useless to argue with you about Israel. You get your info from hate sites, and bash-Israel sources. Your attitude is resentful. Waste of time talking with you about Israel.

You don’t like Israel and there’s not much if anything I can do about that.
.

June 5th, 2011, 4:14 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 119 Leo,

“The event was also opened for all Syrian opposition, with the exception of ex-regime ba3thi fascists like Khaddam and Rifaat who you guys would kiss their asses for generations, without the guts to criticize, and then overnight they become the devil because they left the regime.”
Why do you assume things about me? You are unable to answer a question or to argue without personal attacks. That tells a lot about your capacity of absorbing other points of view and other perspectives. As for Khaddam, you are the one who will end up with this guy, sorry…

# 120 Amir,
“You get your info from hate sites, and bash-Israel sources.”

If the International Federation for Human Rights is a hateful site than all is left for us is to get the information from one source, Israel. And that is exactly israel’s strategy, discredit shamelessly any source of information that does not endorse 100% its point of view.

June 5th, 2011, 4:26 pm

 

Alex said:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576364301892536230.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLEThirdBucket

For the second time, a recent Journal article (“Syrian Violence Tests U.S.,” page one, June 3) asserts that Israel has expressed fears of instability in Syria if leader Bashar al-Assad is overthrown. I emphatically denied this the first time (“U.S. Seeks to Raise Heat on Syria,” page one, April 25) and categorically deny it again. Israel has expressed no such concerns. Allied with Iran, Mr. Assad has helped supply 55,000 rockets to Hezbollah and 10,000 to Hamas, very likely established a clandestine nuclear arms program and profoundly destabilized the region. The violence he has unleashed on his own people demonstrating for freedoms confirms Israel’s fears that the devil we know in Syria is worse than the devil we don’t.

Ambassador Michael Oren

Israeli Embassy

Washington

June 5th, 2011, 4:34 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Badr:
If you do that in Syria you will be arrested ,tortured and your family may not know anything about you anymore, this is brutal regime,who put people in jail because of weakening the spirit of the nation,if they say there is corruption.

Syria no kandahar:
How do you expect the goverment in Syria to give a permit to demonstrate against the goverment?
In USA you do not need a permit to demonstrate against the goverment, May be you are very young, but I remember Kent state demonstrations they never had a permit from the goverment,none went to jail because they demonstrated, Martin Luther King led demonstrations without a permit,in Orange county Ca. they demonstrated without a permit.Please do not make things from your own imagination.

June 5th, 2011, 4:48 pm

 

AIG said:

Sophia,

Wow, you are really ignorant about Israel. For example, your claim that most Israelis have a second passport is just plain false.

The Arab Israeli have more rights and are much richer and much more educated on average than the average Syrian. They have freedom of speech and representation in Israel’s Knesset.

The more you try to defend Assad by attacking Israel, the more ridiculous you look.

June 5th, 2011, 4:53 pm

 

AIG said:

It will take time, but either the Assad regime will go, or Syria will become Zimbabwe. Assad “loves” Syria so much, he is willing to sacrifice it instead of giving the brave Syrians the freedom and dignity they deserve.

June 5th, 2011, 4:55 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Are you surprised Alex? The “Israel prefers Mubarak-Assad-other-Arab-dictators” in power, is a myth that is being cultivated in the conspiratorial, plot-obsessed Arab psych.
.

June 5th, 2011, 5:05 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 122 Alex,

At last a comment coherent with Israel’s current attitude toward events in Syria. I read the article and its main assumption that Israel is for the statu quo may have been true in the past but not after Mubarak’s fall. Israel is trying to regain the initiative in the current events in the Arab world and destabilising Syria may be one way of regaining the initaitive.

There is ample proof that Israel is nurturing the current Syrian revolution 2011 and Israel was never afraid of Sunni extremism spreading at its door because this kind of militant Islam, which was partly nurtured by Israel in the Palestinian territories to defeat the left, was never preoccupied by the Palestinian cause, it didn’t even help Hamas in its many difficulties since they took power in Gaza. It took Iran and Hezbollah for Israel to feel threatened.

June 5th, 2011, 5:06 pm

 

jad said:

مقتل ما لا يقل عن 20 شخصا جراء إطلاق القوات الإسرائيلية النار على المتظاهرين في الجولان

أفاد التلفزيون السوري أن ما لا يقل عن 20 شخصا قتلوا وجرح أكثر من 300 آخرين جراء إطلاق الجيش الإسرائيلي النار على المتظاهرين السوريين والفلسطينيين في محافظة القنيطرة السورية على مشارف هضبة الجولان المحتلة يوم 5 يونيو/حزيران.

وأفاد مدير مشفى الشهيد ممدوح أباظة في القنيطرة علي كنعان لوكالة انباء “سانا” السورية أنه تسلم 6 جثث واستقبل ما لا يقل عن 100 جريح، وأن القتلى تعرضوا لإطلاق نار مباشر وتلقوا إصابات في الصدر و الرأس.

كما نقلت “سانا” عن مراسلها في الميدان أن القوات الإسرائيلية استخدمت الرصاص الحي لمواجهة الشبان العرب وأطلقت قنابل الغاز المسيل للدموع. كما أشعل الجبش الإسرائيلي النيران بالقرب من الشريط الشائك لمنع الشبان من الاقتراب.

وحسب ما أفادت به “سانا”، فقد أطلق الإسرائيليون النار على طواقم الإطفاء والإسعاف.

ناطق عسكري إسرائيلي: أطلقنا عيارات نارية باتجاه الجزء الأسفل للمتظاهرين
من جانبه امتنع الناطق باسم الجيش الإسرائيلي يوآف مردخاي عن التأكيد على وقوع القتلى من الطرف السوري، مشيرا في حديث للإذاعة الإسرائيلي إلى أن الجيش تمكن من احتواء الأحداث في هضبة الجولان.

وقال إنه حسب المعطيات المتوفرة له، فقد إصيب 12 متظاهرا بجروح عند الجانب السوري من الحدود. وأضاف أن “حوالي 150 متظاهرا جاءوا من الأراضي السورية إلى السياج الحدودي وحاولوا اختراق السياج، وقد حذرهم الجنود بإطلاق عيارات تحذيرية في الهواء، وعندما لم يتوقفوا أطلق الجنود العيارات النارية باتجاه الجزء الأسفل من أجسام المتظاهرين”.

إسرائيل تحمل النظام السوري المسؤولية عن أحداث الجولان
وأصدر ديوان رئيس الوزراء بيانا بعد يوم 5 يونيو/حزيران أكد فيه أن إسرائيل تحمّل النظام السوري كامل المسؤولية عن أحداث العنف على الحدود في شمال هضبة الجولان. وأكد البيان أن “النظام السوري الغاشم يحاول من خلال ممارساته الأخيرة صرف الأنظار عن المجازر والجرائم التي يرتكبها بحق أبناء الشعب السوري”. وجاء في البيان أيضا: “إن إسرائيل مثلها مثل أي دولة أخرى في العالم تدافع عن حدودها وسيادتها بوجه أي محاولة لاقتحام أراضيها”.

نتنياهو: ستنعامل بحزم وضبط نفس مع من يحاول اقتحام حدود إسرائيل
هذا وأكد رئيس الوزراء الإسرائيلي في اجتماع حكومته يوم 5 يونيو/حزيران أن قوات الأمن الإسرائيلية ستتعامل بحزم وبضبط نفس مع من يحاول اقتحام حدود إسرائيل.

وقال: “هناك متطرفون حولنا يحاولون اقتحام أراضينا ويهددون مدننا ومواطنينا. لن نسمح لهم بفعل ذلك. لقد أمرت قوات الأمن بالتعامل معهم بحزم وبأقصى درجة ممكنة من ضبط النفس. ولكن بحزم من أجل حماية استقلالنا، وحدودنا، ومدننا ومواطنين”.

واشنطن تعرب عن قلقها العميق إزاء الوضع في الجولان
أعربت الخارجية الأمريكية في بيان لها عن قلقها العميق إزاء إطلاق النيران الإسرائيلية على المتظاهرين السوريين والفلسطينيين في الجولان ما أسفر عن سقوط قتلى وجرحى.

ودعت الخارجية الأمريكية في بيانها جميع الأطراف الى ضبط النفس وتجنب مثل هذه الأعمال الاستفزازية، مؤكدة أن إسرائيل شأنها شأن أي حكومة لها سيادة تمتلك حق الدفاع عن نفسها.

http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/559292/

Israeli army fires at Golan Heights demonstrators
Israeli security forces have opened fire at pro-Palestinian protesters gathered on the Syrian border. State-run Syrian television reports at least 20 protesters killed and over 200 others wounded.
Hundreds of Palestinians have gathered on Sunday on Syria’s border with Israel. The protesters attempted to storm the border fence, when Israeli soldiers fired warning shots into the air. But this seemed only to inflame the crowd.
The Israeli army has not yet officially confirmed the messages spread by the Syrian media claiming 20 protesters were killed in the shooting.
“We verbally warned them, we shot warning shots into the air,” Israeli military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich was quoted by AP as saying. “When this failed we had to direct some fire to their feet, in order to try and protect our fence.”
“This is the border fence between Israel and Syria,” he added. “We will not allow similar situations, such as the one that took place two weeks ago to repeat itself.”
The Israeli military has accused Syrian authorities of instigating the protest to divert its people’s attention from the crackdown in the popular uprising at home.
Palestinian demonstrators have also taken to the streets of two villages in the West Bank and security forces used tear gas to disperse the crowds.
Israel has been on the alert for over a month preparing for this day, since the call went out for all the Palestinians living in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank to make their way to the border posts and fences and attempt to cross over into Israel on the 44th anniversary of the Six-Day War.
The anniversary of the Six-Day War marks the Middle East war of 1967, when Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria, along with the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza Strip in a six-day combat. The Palestinians refer to this event as “the Arab downfall.”
Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was heard saying earlier on Sunday at his weekly cabinet meeting that Israeli soldiers were well-trained at crowd control. But if this fails they have orders to shoot if necessary.
An incident of the same nature happened on May 15, when hundreds of people burst across the country’s border on the same calls and over a dozen people were killed in the unrest.
Jerusalem should be split between Israel and Palestine – Lavrov
Russia’s Foreign Affairs Minister Sergey Lavrov, speaking on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in his Sunday interview to Russian radio station Echo of Moscow, said that it was impossible to resolve the conflict without drawing official borders between the territories.
“When either of them, Israel or Palestine, says ‘Jerusalem will be mine’, this is not ever going to work. Israel and Palestine settling theirs borders with mutual swaps should be an obligatory part of the whole peace process. No one expects Israel to destroy and withdraw its major settlements, but Palestinians should get some replacement to match what Israel will take,” the Foreign Affairs Minister said.
Lavrov stressed that some decision should be taken on Jerusalem.
“There will be no Jerusalem without territory splitting and without solving the refugees’ issue. We see it like this: West Jerusalem is for Israel and East Jerusalem is for Palestine. As for holy sites, these, probably, might be governed only by international institutions,” said Lavrov.

http://rt.com/news/syria-israel-border-jerusalem/

Calm returns to Israel-Syria border after day of deadly violence
Syria TV reports 20 killed, 325 wounded by IDF fire after protesters commemorating 44 years since the Six-Day War attempt to cut through barbed wire on Syrian side of the border.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/calm-returns-to-israel-syria-border-after-day-of-deadly-violence-1.366147

June 5th, 2011, 5:18 pm

 

jad said:

The killed man in Hama wasn’t even a soldier, he worked as a messenger for the military base in that area, he happened to be in the wrong place the wrong time:

From FB:
الشهيد الذي قتل ببشاعة في حماه :اسمه محمد موفق عبد الفتاح تولد 1959 من مدينة حماه العليليات – مقيم في حي جنوب الملعب – متزوج و له أطفال كل ذنبه انه يعمل موظف مدني لدى رحبة سريحين العسكرية بصفة مراسل بريدي – و قد كان في طريق عودته إلى عمله بعد تسليم البريد و صدف مرور التشييع و وقف احتراماً للجنازة …. فهل هذا ذنب تقتل به النفوس…

June 5th, 2011, 5:31 pm

 

HS said:

Further to very relevant comments # 42 from Mohamed Kanj about the video
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/syria-jun-4-2011-2212
it is very fairly obvious that it is has been made by concatenating 2 videos ;
the second one starts at 2mm10s and bears the logo of “LiveLeaks” !!!.
This is not the first video ( and the last ) which has been fabricated before being uploaded to Youtube and reused by the TV Channel.

I wonder how a reputable TV channel cannot afford the minimum forensics tools ( and professional technicians ) enabling them to detect such tampered videos.

June 5th, 2011, 5:32 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 124 AIG,

“The more you try to defend Assad by attacking Israel, the more ridiculous you look”

First, I am not defending anyone, I am only answering some false statements about Israel in this comment section.

Second, I don’t have to defend anyone to criticise Israel. Israel is a rogue nation.

Third, are you defending Israel by criticising Assad? If so, then Assad must have been right when he spoke of the Syrian protests as prompted by an external conspiracy.

June 5th, 2011, 5:33 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 130 HS,

It is not that they cannot afford tools to detect tampered videos, it is that they are not interested in knowing if the video has been tampered with or not, as long as the video serves their established narrative.

Moreover, they are not preoccupied by credibility problems because they are not anymore in the business of informatiin, they are in the business of influencing public opinions.

Add to this the media deficit of the Syrian regime and its lack of outreach, that makes them more vulnerable and less credible than their counterparts, and one can understand why Al-Jazeera is confortable airing these clumsy videos.

June 5th, 2011, 5:42 pm

 

jad said:

حدث اليوم – يوم النكسة من الجولان – مالك الشريف
http://youtu.be/l7RBucYCwVk

June 5th, 2011, 5:42 pm

 

FACTS said:

The ugly face of Israel.

June 5th, 2011, 5:44 pm

 

why-discuss said:

AIG

Why leave the “economical miracle” ?

“A recent survey by the Jerusalem-based Menachem Begin Heritage Center found that 59% of Israelis had approached or intended to approach a foreign embassy to ask for citizenship and a passport. (Interestingly, though, only 22% acknowledged actually considering leaving the country for even a limited period of time.)
…And then there’s this: Despite the aspirations of Zionism to create a safe haven for the world’s Jews, Israel is hardly the safest place in the world. Can we blame Israeli parents for wanting their children to have another option, an insurance policy, just in case Mahmoud Ahmadinejad makes good on his threats?

Read more: http://www.forward.com/articles/13523/#ixzz1ORN05o00

June 5th, 2011, 5:47 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Aboali

“People seeing their loved ones and friend’s shot dead before their eyes aren’t going to be in the mood for peaceful protests.”

And vice-versa…

June 5th, 2011, 5:48 pm

 

AIG said:

Sophia,

If Israel is a “rogue nation” how is it a member of the OECD?
If Israel is a “rogue nation” why is Syria under sanctions and Israel isn’t? (at this point Sophia will produce a conspiracy theory)

You are a supporter of the Assad regime but are trying to hide it. It is obvious to anyone reading this blog. You have no principles except hate for Israel, even at the cost of the freedom and dignity of the brave Syrian people.

Freedom of speech and free elections in Syria. The Syrian people expect and deserve nothing less. Why should they? Shame on all the people who support killing their own compatriots.

June 5th, 2011, 5:48 pm

 

AIG said:

WD,

Thank you for proving conclusively that Sophia is a liar. If 59% are considering asking for a passport that means that at least 59% of Israelis do not have a second passport.

June 5th, 2011, 5:53 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

AIG,

“rogue nation”, so we are a nation after all, not just an ‘Usurping Entity’. A small step for Angry Sophia in her way to become a full pledged supporter of Zionism, and the Jewish nation.
.

June 5th, 2011, 6:05 pm

 

Tara said:

The truth is I have never heard of Arroor until I saw his name on SC for the first time. I have also not heard of Wisal TV until I saw a link provided yesterday by Nour. What I saw is indeed very disturbing but he only represents himself. I visited a sunni family of Hama origin yesterday and no one heard of Aaroor or Wisal TV for that matter. I called my own Sunni family and his name did not ring a bell.

I may not have heard his name because I was opinionless in the past. I would appreciate if someone can enlighten me with some info: Who is he, where does he live?, who sponsor his TV station?, when did he start preaching hate sermons?. Was he known to anybody before the start of the revolution?

June 5th, 2011, 6:22 pm

 

Jad said:

ترفع نتائج عملها في فترة لا تتجاوز الشهر .. سفر يصدر قرارا بتشكيل لجنة لإعداد وصياغة مشروع قانون جديد للأحزاب

http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=133443 

أصدر رئيس مجلس الوزراء عادل سفر،يوم الأحد، قرارا يقضي بتشكيل لجنة من ذوي الخبرة والكفاءة تتولى مهمة إعداد وصياغة مشروع قانون جديد للأحزاب يتضمن الرؤى والمنطلقات والآليات الناظمة لتأسيس أحزاب سياسية وطنية في سورية ,

وذلك في ضوء مرتسمات عملية الحوار الجارية حول برنامج الإصلاح السياسي وتعزيز مبدأ التعددية السياسية وما أفضت إليه مناقشاتها من أفكار ومقاربات عامة وبغية بلورة نتائجها في إطار تشريعي ناظم”.

وطلب رئيس مجلس الوزراء من اللجنة أن تستعين بمن تراه مناسبا من ذوي الخبرة والاختصاص وأن ترفع نتائج عملها إلى رئيس مجلس الوزراء خلال فترة لا تتجاوز شهرا من تاريخه ليصار إلى عرض مشروع القانون بصيغته الأولية على الرأي العام وتلقي الملاحظات حوله لإغناء مضمونه واستكمال صياغته النهائية وعرضه على مجلس الوزراء لإقرار المناسب بشأنه.

 
وكان الرئيس الأسد قال في خطابه، في نيسان الماضي، إن قانون الأحزاب هام جدا وله حساسية خاصة لأنه يؤثر في مستقبل سورية بشكل جذري لذلك يجب أن تكون دراسته وافية وناضجة وأن يكون هناك حوار وطني لنرى ما هو النموذج الأفضل الذي يناسب المجتمع السوري.

 
وكان مجلس الوزراء أقر، مؤخرا، تشكيل عدد من اللجان منها لجنة لإصلاح القضاء تقوم بوضع إستراتيجية متكاملة لإصلاح الجهاز القضائي ووضع الأسس الضامنة لاستقلال القضاء، ولجنة لإصلاح الإدارة العامة في الدولة، ولجنة لمكافحة الفساد، ولجنة أخرى لانجاز مشروع قانون الإعلام الجديد، ولجنة لدراسة الواقع الاجتماعي والاقتصادي، بالإضافة إلى تشكيل لجنة لإعداد مشروع قانون جديد للانتخابات العامة.

 
وأصدرت القيادة السورية، في الآونة الأخيرة، عدة قوانين وإجراءات تهدف إلى تسريع عملية الإصلاح في سورية منها مرسوم العفو الذي ضمن المعتقلين السياسيين والمنتمين إلى الإخوان المسلمين، وإنهاء حالة الطوارئ وإلغاء محكمة امن الدولة العليا، وإجراءات لتحسين الوضع المعيشي للمواطنين، وذلك في وقت شهدت فيه مدن سورية عدة مطالبات تنادي بإصلاحات سياسية واقتصادية.

June 5th, 2011, 6:25 pm

 

Tara said:

Amir,

I asked you a question once hoping that you would exercise your freedom of speech but you never answered it. Can you reconsider?

June 5th, 2011, 6:26 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 136, # 138, AIG and Amir,

“Shame on all the people who support killing their own compatriots.” YES. And I would add shame on those who incite other people to kill their own compatriots, which is your official role here on this website and the role of your country in Lebanon and Syria. Did you forget your role in occupied south Lebanon?

“Nation” doesn’t necessarily mean state. American indians are a nation but they don’t have a state. And that’s mainly Israel problem. If every ethnic or religious or homogenous cultural group that considers itself a nation considers itself in a need of a state and acts accordingly to establish a state, invade other countries, expel and massacre their original inhabitants, and steal their land, the whole world will be in a continual state of war.

Your nation-state of Israel doesn’t even want to delineate permament borders and establish peace with its neighbours and give rights to the Palestinian it dispossessed. You have an ever expanding nation state. And this explains why the middle east is in a continual state of war.

June 5th, 2011, 6:33 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Angry Sophia bla bla bla You’re tedious and I’ve lost patience with you.

Tara,
(1) ‘Syria no Kandahar’ brings news from 2012. No wonder you didn’t hear of Aroor in 2011. You will in 2012 🙂

(2) I presume you mean the question you asked me about the Arab Israeli conflict and the Palestinian issue.

To make the long story short, in my opinion it will have to be a solution of separating the two societies, the Arab Palestinian and the Jewish. Israeli Arabs will be best under an Arab leadership, in the future Palestinian state. Israel will be Jewish with no 20% hostile minority. The borders will be closer to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.svg rather than to the ’67 line. And yes, Israel will be smaller than ’67. But it will be more Jewish. And at the same time, the Arab state “Palestine” will be bigger than ’67, and hopefully peaceful. Without the “peaceful” ingredient, there will be no Palestinian state. This is the Lieberman vision which I fully support. Hope I didn’t disappoint you.
.

June 5th, 2011, 6:51 pm

 

Alex said:

Amir,

I’m very happy to read your ambassador’s letter to the WSJ assuring everyone that Israel absolutely wants the current leadership in Syria to go away.

June 5th, 2011, 6:52 pm

 

Norman said:

Leo,

Here you go again, read what i wrote, I said, Surround Hama and clean it up from the criminals, not (( go hunting the criminals ))as you said, shame on you , then what should i expect from a racist bigot like you who thinks that Islam not good citizenship what make people majority and minority, i want the Muslims and the Jews to be treated in the US the way Christians are treated in Israel and Saudi Arabia .

By the way,
What is the program for the opposition, we might like it tell us some more , tell us please with details, apparently you do not agree with my understanding of the program.

June 5th, 2011, 7:09 pm

 

Tara said:

Amir,

In your opinion, what is the percentage of Jewish Israeli that may support or agree to such borders?

June 5th, 2011, 7:11 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 143 Amir,

You didn’t lose patience with me, you lost your argument.

Ethnic cleansing, that’s the name for the solution you advocate for Israel and you are advocating the same solution for other neighbouring states in the middle east.

June 5th, 2011, 7:12 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Amir
you mean you want to create a 100% jewish ghetto ?

“And yes, Israel will be smaller than ‘67. But it will be more Jewish”

June 5th, 2011, 7:17 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Tara,

Bingo! This is exactly the issue. And Lieberman is intentionally vague about this point of ‘smaller Israel but more homogeneous”. It will take time for Lieberman’s ideas to penetrate, but Israelis will understand eventually.

Now I go to sleep.. it’s 2 AM 🙂
.

June 5th, 2011, 7:17 pm

 

Jad said:

أكد مراسلو «الوطن» في حلب واللاذقية أن المعلومات الآتية من منطقة «جسر الشغور» بالغة الخطورة إذ لا تزال مجموعات مسلحة تحتل عدداً من المباني الحكومية

وقامت صباح أمس بتفجير مبنى البريد وجسر على نهر العاصي لمنع أي قوات من دخول المدينة، وحصنت نفسها في أكثر من مكان خارج «جسر الشغور» على خط أريحا، ونصبت الكمائن وروعت السكان.
وحسب ما أكده المراسلون لم تشاهد أي كتيبة من الجيش في محيط تلك المدن، وهو الأمر الذي أكده أيضاً مراسل «الوطن» في حماة بأنه لا وجود لأي وحدات عسكرية في المحافظة خلافاً لما بثته بعض القنوات الفضائية.
وحسب شهادة بعض السكان فإن المسلحين يقومون بعمليات كر وفر على مدن محافظة إدلب الرئيسة لإرهاب السكان وإجبارهم على الانضمام إلى حركتهم المسلحة وحمايتهم من أي تدخل عسكري.
وعند دخول عدد من المسلحين إلى مدينة أريحا ظهر أمس حصل اشتباك مسلح مع القوى الأمنية في البلدة ما أجبر المسلحين على الانسحاب إلى محيط البلدة التي قال سكانها عنهم إنهم شبه محاصرين.
وحسب شهادة الأهالي فإن المسلحين يتحدرون في أغلبيتهم من منطقة «جبل الزاوية» المعروفة بانتماء قسم من أبنائها إلى تيارات دينية متطرفة ويقدر عددهم بحسب السكان بمئات المقاتلين.
وفي معلومات لم نتمكن من تأكيدها فإن المسلحين أعدموا عدداً من الموظفين الحكوميين في «جسر الشغور» وقتلوا عدداً من عناصر الشرطة والأمن ومثلوا بجثثهم مرتكبين أبشع جرائم يمكن للبشرية أن تتخيلها، وقال السكان إن الوضع خطير للغاية ويتطلب حلاً سريعاً مناشدين السلطات العسكرية بالتدخل لحماية الأبرياء.
ومساء أمس عاد الهدوء نسبياً إلى مناطق محددة في «جسر الشغور» بعد أن تمكنت تعزيزات أمنية من الوصول إلى البلدة وفرار المسلحين،
حسب ما أكد أحد السكان لمراسلنا في حلب.
وبثت وكالات الأنباء معلومات نقلاً عن ناشط حقوقي تفيد بمقتل 28 شخصاً في «جسر الشغور» من بينهم حسب الناشط ذاته ستة عناصر أمن.
من جهة ثانية قال رئيس المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان رامي عبد الرحمن: «لقد تم الإفراج منذ صدور قانون العفو عن أكثر من 450 معتقلاً سياسياً ومعتقل رأي في أغلبيتهم من الإسلاميين والأكراد».
رسمياً، استشهد أربعة من عناصر الشرطة والقوى الأمنية في مدينة جسر الشغور في محافظة إدلب، وقالت وكالة الأنباء السورية «سانا» إن «مجموعات مسلحة» فجرت مبنى البريد في مدينة جسر الشغور وحرقت وخربت عدداً من المباني العامة والخاصة وقطعت الطرقات وهاجمت عدداً من الدوائر الحكومية ومراكز الشرطة ومجمع المخافر واستولت على الأسلحة الموجودة فيها، ما أدى لاستشهاد أربعة من عناصر الشرطة والقوى الأمنية على حين أصيب أكثر من 20 آخرين بينهم مدير المنطقة وضابط إضافة إلى إصابة عدد من المواطنين.
وبالترافق مع خروج تظاهرات تنادي بشعارات سياسية، تشهد منطقة جسر الشغور منذ يوم الجمعة تبادل إطلاق النار بين قوى الأمن والمسلحين الذين قاموا بمحاصرة مشفى جسر الشغور الوطني، وقتل أفراد من الشرطة في منطقة أرم الجوز وإحراق مخفر قرية الزعينة، التابعة لإدلب.

June 5th, 2011, 7:24 pm

 

aboali said:

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/67823/ahed-al-hendi/the-structure-of-syrias-repression

For years, Bashar al-Assad’s regime subjected Syrians to a routine of good cop, bad cop. Maher al-Assad, President Bashar al-Assad’s brother and the head of the brutal Republican Guard, has played the bad cop. Although Maher was not seen much in public, he established a reputation for brutal repression. The good cop, ironically, was Bashar al-Assad himself. Educated in the West and an ophthalmologist by trade, he projected an image of benevolence, wearing blue jeans in public and, in a Vogue profile of his wife this past February, boasted of driving through Damascus without any security.

That same Vogue article referenced the well-manicured fingernails of Assad’s wife, “lacquered a dark blue-green.” In mid-March, the focus shifted to the hands of 15 children in the southern Syrian city of Deraa whose nails were removed by torture. Their crime was scribbling the famous words of the Arab Spring — “The people want to bring down the regime” — on their school’s wall, an act that began the ongoing Syrian revolt against Assad.

June 5th, 2011, 7:28 pm

 

Tara said:

Dear Jad,

I read some of your older post and I have no doubt about your good intentions.
Your post #150 is in Arabic so it is not intended for international consumption. It obviously does reinforce the regime supporters in their argument defending the regime and by reading their comments, they do not appear to need more ammunition.

For me and the so called “others”: We would love to believe it too but tell us how?

Who owns Alwatan? if the goverment does then it has NO credibility. “you lie once, you lie always”

June 5th, 2011, 7:53 pm

 

Tara said:

Has anyone heard from Asma? What are her thoughts about all of this?

June 5th, 2011, 7:58 pm

 

syau said:

Tara,

“you lie once, you lie always”

Have you seen the masses of fabricated videos and lies forwarded by the revolution? By now, nobody can deny them.

The continuous lies regarding unarmed demonstrators has also been exposed, not only the Syrian people and regime supporters as you put it know they are armed, but the international press is also admitting to the arms within the demonstrations.

I just wonder if you stand by your statement and apply it to the revolution.

June 5th, 2011, 8:10 pm

 

why-discuss said:

“We are deeply troubled by events that took place earlier today in the Golan Heights resulting in injury and the loss of life. We call for all sides to exercise restraint. Provocative actions like this should be avoided. Israel, like any sovereign nation has a right to defend itself.- US State Department spokesperson.”

“Itself” means the illegally occupied land?

June 5th, 2011, 8:10 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Tara

‘if the goverment does then it has NO credibility. “you lie once, you lie always”
Do you apply this to the US press too? WMD??? NY Times, Collin Powell, Bush.. etc…

June 5th, 2011, 8:11 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 153, Tara

Why are you asking about Mrs El Assad? She is a private person and has no official function and has every right to keep her opinions for herself.

“you lie once, you lie always” I like this. I hope you don’t think that it applies only to the Syrian regime.

June 5th, 2011, 8:12 pm

 

AIG said:

Alex,

First you argued that if Assad goes there will be instability that will be bad for everyone. When no one bought this argument, now you are trying to argue that because Israel wants Assad to go, Syrians should support him.

When will you understand that the issue is the freedom and dignity of the Syrian people, and what Israel thinks really does not matter? The Syrian people deserve a chance at freedom and democracy and if Israel thinks so also, does not mean it is a bad idea.

June 5th, 2011, 8:27 pm

 

Tara said:

Syau and Why,

I apply it to all.

Consider me the public opinion: What are my sources? Regime-owned worshiping tools and the facebook page of the Syrian revolution 2011 are the 2 main sources. Then come the Aljazzeera et al ( meaning other arabic press) and then commentaries from international press. Finally what I read on SC. I am sorry if I am not that sophisticated.

Now I do not believe the government sources period. When I have a chance to watch what they post on the revolution face book, I see their admin banning any sectarian comment and insisting on Silmya Silmya…. Who in your opinion represent the Syrian revolution?

June 5th, 2011, 8:29 pm

 

syau said:

Tara,

“Silmya Silmya” and yet the demonstrators on ground- who also refer to the Syrian revolution fb page are not silmya at all.

To me, they are the representatives of the revolution along with the administrators who are calling for the demonstrations and the Imam’s/sheikhs affiliated with the revolution who are declaring jihad, endorsing violence and many deaths and are trying to divide the Syrian people with their ugly sectarian talk.

The people who represent this revolution are the ones who are making excuses for those murdering and mutilating their victims, public hangings and destruction of infrastructure and think it’s justice served.

The Syrian people do not represent the revolution; they want an end to this violent revolution and normalcy to return.

June 5th, 2011, 8:57 pm

 

Tara said:

Syau,

You said “the demonstrators on the ground,the admin who are calling for the demonstrators, and the Imam/ Sheiks affiliated … declaring jihad..”. Did I correctly quote you?

Can you please name Imams other than Aaroor preaching hate and violence? and also can you please link us to any sectarian/hate comment or call for violence posted on their FB.

June 5th, 2011, 9:09 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 158 AIG,

Let’s imagine Assad doesn’t like Bibi and let’s imagine that Bibi’s departure might plunge Israel in an uncertain future and that this uncertainty might lead to a civil war. And let’s say that Assad thinks that Syria and himself might profit from a civil war in Israel and let’s imagine that Assad not only voices his opinion but acts to make things go his way. And let’s say the Israelis are aware of this game and that some Israelis are actually collaborating with Assad in order to bring down the Israeli government. Let’s say that you don’t like Bibi very much and that you have some criticism as to his leadership but you think that Israeli institutions must be reformed and preserved from a dissolution and that the only to preserve peace and prevent the country from a civil war would be to keep Bibi for the time being. Plus you may think that external pressure to bring down your government might not have at heart first and foremost your own country’s interests.

On which side would you stand?

June 5th, 2011, 9:11 pm

 

873 said:

Of course Israel has the right to defend itself? But Syria doesnt. Make no mistake. The stage-managed “Arab Spring 2” came from where the first one did: MI6, CIA, Mossad, France and Sayanim, Inc.

Jewish controlled media is pivotal (including Jazeera, bought out by them a few years back).

Here is how its done…
AL QAEDA ATTACKS!! Adam Gadahn inherits OBL’s recording studio and Rita Katz’s translations-

But Mista’aravim Adam Pearlmen is his REAL name! Adam is the grandson of the late Carl K. Pearlman; a prominent Jewish urologist in Orange County. Carl was also a member of the board of directors of the Anti-Defamation League, which was caught spying on Americans for Israel in 1993, much as AIPAC has been caught up in the more recent spy scandal.

Pearlman is back with another video tape, this time calling for American Muslims to buy guns and start shooting Americans. Naturally the totally-owned-by-Israel American media is playing this tape all over the place without bothering to mention that Adam Gadahn’s real name is Adam Pearlman.

June 5th, 2011, 9:12 pm

 

syau said:

Tara,

Many of those videos were linked here a few weeks ago, one Egyption sheikh, in his speech made a comment stating if the Alawi do not join them, their kids will pay the price until eternity.

There are many other than Aaroor, some in Syria. Do some reasearch, you dont have to look too far and I’m sure you will find them.

June 5th, 2011, 9:15 pm

 

Norman said:

One of the problem i see is that the bright ones of the uprising are not uprising their vows for fear of being flanked by the extremist, today apparently the president is trying to listen to the outlaw Kurdish parties, only for these parties to be called traitors to the revolution, there is no goal for this revolution except the revenge that they seek.

It is time to stand united for reform and peace and safety in Syria.

June 5th, 2011, 9:18 pm

 

Tara said:

873,

Hello,

“Jewish controlled media is pivotal (including Jazeera, bought out by them a few years back).”

When did Israel buy Jazeera? before or after Lebanon Jully 2006 war?. Can you show us proof?

June 5th, 2011, 9:23 pm

 

Tara said:

Sayu,

will try to search sc for more. please forward if you come across any. Thx.

June 5th, 2011, 9:25 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

The opposition just keeps getting lower…

“Protesters at Israel’s border were paid $1,000 each by the regime”

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/05/report-syrias-assad-regime-paid-protesters-1000-to-storm-israels-border/

How conveniently these Syrian ‘pro-democracy’ con artists use the blood of the innocent to smear the Syrian government. I wonder if lying is another democratic value.

June 5th, 2011, 9:26 pm

 

syau said:

Tara,

Sorry, if you want to find it, you will have to do the work yourself. That is if you are actually interested in finding out the truth.

June 5th, 2011, 9:28 pm

 

Abughassan said:

It is increasingly evident that this uprising is now hijacked by thugs and terrorists who could not care less about what educated people say,many of those in the streets now are paid criminals and hired guns who are ready to kill Jesus for a buck. I will no longer show any support,neither will millions of moderate Syrians,to any public demonstrations,after-Friday marches,or anything that comes out of what becomes a Taliban uprising. We had hopes of keeping things civil but we were reminded that Syria is still a third world country. As for those anti regime demonstrators who were not armed and were killed or injured I say we hope your sacrifices were not in vain,we believe in justice but we believe more in mercy,we do not want Syria to be smashed between brutal security forces and criminal pseudo Islamic thugs. Cooler heads must direct events now while the army does its job. I do not like the regime but I can not give Syria to the new Taliban,period. You can oppose the regime without using violence or destroying property,and you can be anti regime without attacking the police or the army. This is a revolution that is shooting itself in the foot.

June 5th, 2011, 9:46 pm

 

louai said:

Syria is beautiful because is full of people like you Abughassan, its the state’s mistake to make them silent all this years so now they are not speaking loud ,i am touched with your comment and full of hope that many people will start to express their good intention and contribute of the healing process ,Syria has changed already there is more freedom already and i can see the change happening throw the smoke ,a big example is syria-news.com i couldn’t read it 3 month ago and now i cant believe the articles they publish sometimes and the comments they allow ,i just hope its not too late for the wise voices to get louder than the guns.

June 5th, 2011, 10:01 pm

 

loaui said:

المعارضة غير الشريفة، الشبيحة، البلطجية والزعران ليسوا جزءاً من
الحل .. بقلم: عبد الكريم أنيس

http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=133370

June 5th, 2011, 10:11 pm

 

louai said:

المعارضة غير الشريفة، الشبيحة، البلطجية والزعران ليسوا جزءاً من
الحل .. بقلم: عبد الكريم أنيس

http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=133370

June 5th, 2011, 10:12 pm

 

louai said:

Mohamed Kanj 61
i have the same opinion about the MB as you have but i only meant them in my comment as a people not as a party or political organization ,,they are still Syrians regardles,in this mad three month we say that MB has less influence on people than what we used to think but those people are maybe one or two hundred thousands inside Syria and we don’t know how many outside, we can not just ignore they do exist its better to cure the source of the problem (corruption uneducated teenagers radicalism poverty and lack of opportunities)
MB offered to change their name so they can get back to Syria but in my opinion they also need to change more than the name.

June 5th, 2011, 10:26 pm

 

why-discuss said:

AIG
Your statement

“When will you understand that the issue is the freedom and dignity of the PALESTINIAN people, and what Israel thinks really does not matter? The PALESTINIAN people deserve a chance at freedom and democracy and if Israel DOESN’T thinks so also, does not mean it is a bad idea.”

June 5th, 2011, 10:43 pm

 

jad said:

5 clips from what happened in the Syrian Jolan yesterday:
https://www.facebook.com/video/?id=100001035904335

June 5th, 2011, 11:55 pm

 

Abughassan said:

Criminals in Qatana killed a 14 year-old boy using a belt. The child is Malek Slaiman who managed to irritate thugs by raising the Syrian flag . The flag was torn by those thugs the first time but Malek defied the mob and raised the flag again. Malek’s dad,a retired Colonel,found him dead in front of the house. Check this story out if you care. Welcome to the Taliban culture.

June 6th, 2011, 12:17 am

 
 

jad said:

Dear Tara,
“For me and the so called “others”: We would love to believe it too but tell us how?”

There is nothing called “others” between Syrians, we are all one in this, no us against them, it’s us against our own weakness and fears.
I’m not going to tell you anything that you don’t believe in, it’s not my intention to change your opinion, my intention is to try to see both sides of the story then decide whatever I want.

What I really want is for all of us, Syrians, to work together to find the right solution, killing peaceful protesters is a crime, killing soldiers is also a crime, both crimes wont solve our problem, it will make things worse.

Dialog is the only thing I believe in, but on every site I visit, everybody is yelling to kill the other side because both sides don’t want to solve anything, the blood from both sides is helping each side to strength its position of refusing to initiate the dialog.
Until logic not gun is used nothing will change, we will keep seeing the same tragedy every day until both sides recognize that they actually killed ‘US’ all and they have no Syrians to rule over anymore.
I liked Mr. Kadi’s last sentence in the article I linked:

“سورية لنا أيها المجرمون.. ومهما عثتم فسادا، فلن تكون إلا لنا: للمدنية، للمواطنة، للديمقراطية، للحرية، للأمن، للأستقرار..”

June 6th, 2011, 12:44 am

 

jad said:

This is Turkey that is patronizing Syria, I wonder who will patronize Turkey?
Human rights doesn’t exist anywhere in the Middle East but we all like to pretend that we are better than our neighbors, pathetic!

L’exemple Turque : repression d’une manifestation
http://youtu.be/i2U93hQXfao

June 6th, 2011, 1:03 am

 

daleandersen said:

Logic and Conspiracy – a poem

I wake up in Damascus
To some noise out in the town
I open up the window
“Can’t you people hold it down?”

I spot a soldier standing
With a rifle and a gun
I ask him what’s the matter
And he shouts out, “That’s the one!”

I start to close the window
But like Johnny-on-the-spot
He tells me I’m a pris’ner
Of the al-Mukhabarat.

He takes me to his Sergeant
In a room without a view.
Who tells me “I have proof that
You’re an agent of the Jews.”

He shows me sev’ral photos
Of a club at Thomas Gate
“That bar’s a Mossad hangout
You were there. That’s check and mate.”

I sign a typed confession
And I thought that we were through.
But he tells the soldier, “Take him
Up to Intel at HQ.

Now the Captain up at Intel
He’s a thug who’s named Farooq
He takes one look and mutters
“No, that ain’t no Jewboy spook.”

He tears up the confession
And he kicks me in the balls.
He says, “You’re in al-Qaeda
Give it up and tell me all.”

I tell him the whole story
How I trained in Pakistan.
And taught Mohammed Atta
How to slip by airport scans.

They type a new confession
And I sign my autograph.
Farooq decides to send me
To the Army Chief of Staff.

They toss me in a dungeon
In a place that’s dark and dank
They leave me there for six days
And the food they gave me stank

The seventh day a Colonel
He’s a cousin of Bashar
He drives up to the prison
In a Maserati car.

He glares at all around him
And he huffs and puffs and roars
His helpers cringe and tremble
As he calls for blood and gore.

He looks at me and hollers
“You’re a liar. You’re a fake.
You never were al-Qaeda.
Did you think you’d get a break?”

He tears up the confession
And he stomps and kicks a chair
“You’re CIA, I know it.
It’s a fact as clear as air.”

So I sign a new confession.
As they watch the drying ink,
They post my face on YouTube
Then they throw me in the clink.

They tell the world they got ‘im
Both the plotter and the plot
They have it all on file
How the terrorist was caught

Fridays before Moslem prayers
They trot me out to say,
“I’m an agent of al-Qaeda
Of the Jews and CIA.”

So that is all my story.
If you’re ever in a rut
And stuck inside Damascus
Better keep that window shut.

http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/05/hitler-and-arabs-nazis-in-middle-east.html

June 6th, 2011, 1:23 am

 

Mina said:

Tara

Check on Aroor on Twitter through the archives tweets in Google, for example do a search on google with twitter aroor syria
http://twitter.com/#!/stefanbindernet/status/56310278740119552
http://twitter.com/#!/AdnanAlarour

He has been VERY active since the beginning, and has a talk show on a religious channel based Saudi Arabia, called al-Wisal tv.
http://twitter.com/#!/butheina/status/47758504194342912

It just all started with the mobilization on Twitter of some exiled Kurds and the Arour Gulf based kinds of guys. Then a bunch of hip Damascus leftists launched a facebook event but they had to realize that the only people who turned out on 8th february were all already friends since not so many are using FB in Syria.
http://twitoaster.com/chantalrebelle/rt-confidentiels-appels-a-manifester-demain-a-damas-alep-et-homs-lances-sur-facebook-syrie-elassad-egypte/

June 6th, 2011, 2:47 am

 

haz said:

Why would these soldiers film themselves doing these terrible things?
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DrYKUZFL5qVA%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

The same reason these US soldiers photographed themselves doing terrible things at Abu Ghraib:
http://antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

And in Afghanistan:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/an-afghan-abu-ghraib-america-shamed-by-kill-squad-photo-leak-2248940.html

It’s called institutional aggression and happens under the right circumstances in all human societies.

Here is a broader explanation:

http://alevelpsychology.co.uk/a2-psychology-aqa-a/unit-3/social-psychology/aggression/social/psychological-factors/social-psychological-explanations-of-institutional-aggression.html

After a while, they think it’s normal. In a healthy society it is discovered, and people are punished, and systems are put in place to try to stop it happening again in that institution. The problem in Syria is that it is a police state, where no-one in government or the mukhabarat will ever be punished for behaving like this. In Syria this is the system, not an aberration. It is very difficult to erase from any society, but freedom of the press, independent judiciary, and politicians accountable to the people will help to begin to fix it.

June 6th, 2011, 3:20 am

 

Mina said:

Jad #150
This follows precisely and timely the threat sent from Antalya and announced officially by al Jazzara’s journalists that “the opposition was threatening to have recourse to weapons …[to defend itself, in the propaganda’s angle].”

Well organised Sunni-uprising, since day one. I recently met with a Syrian friend and was amazed how he had swallowed by heart all the rumours we would read on Facebook, without using Facebook!! (eighty thousand deaths in hama, we are ruled by a Shii minority, etc.)

In a way, a Middle East with a strong MB’s influence would be the best guarantee for Israel to never return to a peace process (they need ennemies, otherwise they assimilate and convert).

But I’m still puzzled by the fact that the only reason I can find to the government’s answers (for some) and silence (for some) may be the STL indictment.

June 6th, 2011, 3:53 am

 

Usama said:

Haz,

I really can’t believe you’re trying to compare an army serving in its own country with an army serving on the other side of the world. I say this as someone with a conviction that the Syrian army has not fired on civilians.

I understand some criminals like to tape their criminal actions, as I’ve recently seen some videos of what the Hariri/Salafi militias did in northern Lebanon in May 2008. If you watch those clips, you only see the victims, while the criminals’ faces are not focused on.

The mere fact that in the video in question you hear the people talk about leaving false evidence for the investigation tells you that there would be an actual investigation taking place, and therefore, taking such a video would not be institutional aggression because the results of the investigation would be completely different. If the investigation doesn’t matter, then why perform an investigation at all instead of just claiming you did? This is like some black Americans claiming that police sprinkle cocaine on them after shooting them to accuse them of dealing drugs.

So you have two choices here:
1) If there are no actual investigations, then the people in the video referring to planting false evidence are just trying to further anger the viewer, ie incitement, ie fabrication.
2) If there are actual investigations, then the people in the video are extremely stupid. You can clearly see their faces. Let’s see if the “people on the ground” can identify them for us. They should be able to do that because they claim to have contacts among all groups and regions in Syria, right? So they should have the connections needed to identify those people.

I still don’t buy that the video shows real security officers and soldiers, not even close. Yesterday, douchebag ponytail said that 18 civilians died at Jusr ash-Shugoor as well as 6 security officers. How did this happen that 6 security officers died with 18 civilians? It’s because the army is shooting at protesters? Give me a break. This is the first time ponytail even acknowledged someone other than “civilians” dying, and he doesn’t even offer an explanation other than army shooting at peaceful protesters.

June 6th, 2011, 4:14 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Is pathetic to see how syrian regime is sending palestinians to death so stupidly. They are humans but for the syrian staregists they are as money in Las Vegas. If they havent sent palestinians to cross cesase fire 1973 border in 40 years which is the reason to send them now? What has really changed in relationships with Israel? Nothing. Anything changed? Just situation inside Syria,
It is clear to all open minds and analysts but no to clear for Assad´s fans that the regime tries to hide the massacres that are going on inside Syria in which syrian regime with syrian army and syrian assasination and torture forces are destroying syrian lives and syrian families in almost every city of Syria.

June 6th, 2011, 4:19 am

 

Usama said:

Sandro, is this what you’re basing your belief on?
http://reformsyria.org/syrian-opposition/rps-statement-concerning-the-assad-stompers-of-the-golan-heights

Until you [gentlemen] understand that Syrians, Palestinians, and Lebanese don’t need financial incentives to fight the Zionist entity, you will never understand the need for *fair and comprehensive* peace. The Palestinians will return to their homes and everyone smells this coming soon, especially with Mubarak gone. This is why Obama and Saudi Arabia are scrambling to pump billions into Egypt, under *certain conditions*. They don’t care about democracy. They care about Israel.

You’d also have to be an idiot to believe that Israel wants Bashar to stay. The Golan may have been quiet for almost 40 years, but that’s only because the real battle was (and still is) taking place in Lebanon. Israel wants a puppet like Mubarak, Hariri, or Hussein/Abdallah II to have rule over Syria.

June 6th, 2011, 4:40 am

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

Kurdish-Baath alliance will become official soon. Let us see what Erdogan will have to say:

http://www.alwatan.sy/dindex.php?idn=102601

June 6th, 2011, 5:38 am

 

T said:

I am amused, and saddened, to see that the regime apologists are quoting random foreign websites and reports to indict the protesters; are using arbitrary statements to say that the uprising is not peaceful; and are silly enough to swallow or the bitter pills of the regime controlled media.

Does it not puzzle any of those people that SANA.sy news agency has failed to mention ANY civilian deaths AT ALL over the past weeks. They have listed every single military of security forces fatalities but not a single civilian.

The apologists are allowed to quote Russia and China, hardly democratic themselves, but refuse as treason any comment from any other country that is not supportive of their bloody repression.

They talk about the “new Taliban” which is about to take Syria ignoring that the protesters didn’t call for islamic law or state while at the same time they support the radical islamist Hizbullah that is a dogmatic, idiotic, and useless religious entity that represents all that is ugly about political islam while hijacking resistance to brand only themselves.

scaredsyrian.wordpress.com

June 6th, 2011, 5:47 am

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

Erdogan’s barbaric policy on the Kurds is a serious threat to Syria. Most Syrian Kurds are originally refugees from Turkey (also the Armenians). I don’t think we can take any more Turkish refugees in Syria. Erdogan will have to seriously review his barbaric policies towards the Kurds or Syria will have to intervene and support the Kurds. We will not allow the Kurdish genocides to happen again in Turkey without interfering.

I think the Kurdish issue in Turkey should be dealt with more seriously. Syrian, Turkish, and Iraqi Kurds should hold some conference to propose an alternative to the current Kurdish situation in Turkey. The Kurdish genocides in Turkey have to end.

June 6th, 2011, 5:57 am

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

The city of Qamishli in northeastern Syria was built by Kurhish and Syriac refugees who escaped the genocides in Turkey. This city is a good location for a future Kurdish conference. Syria is becoming more democratic country and we will not be able to prevent anybody from holding a conference if they wish to.

June 6th, 2011, 6:01 am

 

louai said:

souri333

pro-Erdogan are also welcome in Syria 🙂

June 6th, 2011, 6:17 am

 

873 said:

Here is why in an earlier post I advocated that Israel extremists be sprayed with the Fun vax to dismantle their ‘God gene’. The fundamentalist zio-zealots there think they will fulfill Isaiah 17 and destroy Damascus this summer, pre Nibiru. IDF violating S Lebanon airspace again today… Seems The Chosen are prepping another killing.

But what does this mean?? Myabe its (Israeli media) “conspiracy theory” as the mediocre always like to say when they cant refute the evidence and its implications.

“Ofer ships carried Blackhawk helicopters- report”
June 5, 2011 Globes “Israel’s Business Network” and London Times

“Ships owned by the Israeli Ofer family docked in Iran may have carried Israel Air Force Blackhawk helicopters, which ere used by commando units. The paper claims that the helicopters were concealed in special containers for infiltration into Iran.”

(Ofer later found dead in his apt)

To incite Aramgeddon, you must have a worthy opponent to fight. If it doesnt exist, you must build it yourself, right? For Israel, war is the health of the state.

June 6th, 2011, 6:36 am

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Souri
I don’t think we should correct Turkey’s mistakes by doing the same ones.in the 1990s Hafez did that and it was one of his few miscalculations and he was forced to surrender Ocalan,Syria is much weakened now by the internal and external enemies to be able to afford creating news enemies.Turky is not an enemy yet.The Kurds themselves-most of them-don’t want that.

June 6th, 2011, 6:39 am

 

873 said:

Here is one of the CIA/Mossad main Mista’aravim traitors inciting war against America and agitating for internal fitna inside the USA. This jew dressed up as a muslim terrorist is helping to justify the seizure of guns from Americans, and the repeal of the 2nd Amendment by urging Americans into criminal acts of violence.

This clown is the grandson of an Orange Co, Calif board member of the ADL. Anti Defamation League. His name is Adam Gadahn. LOLOL
Syrians know this: What they are doing in USA, they are doing across the M.E.

June 6th, 2011, 6:57 am

 

Mina said:

Real fun article on Qatar (the current amir took power by staging a coup against his father in 1995 while he was on holidays in Switzerland). What a brilliant example. The picture is worth it too..
http://www.slate.fr/story/39077/qatar-france

June 6th, 2011, 7:14 am

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Alex, this is for you, Gallop’s Egypt survey

http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEQQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abudhabigallupcenter.com%2FFile%2F147902%2FEgyptTransition_Brief_wCover_ADGC_Bilingual_05-31-11_sa_LR.PDF&ei=va3sTbz9JM7FswalnOXnCg&usg=AFQjCNHqFLwq6uZ4SK7l1I2QIbalta6fLA&sig2=ZB-wMKoNilYUinKHAcznlg

1% of Egyptians say that IR of Iran should be Egypt’s model. (one percent!!!).

70% say that religious leaders should advise those in power, or should have NO authority to write national legislation.
14% say that religious should have full authority.
.

June 6th, 2011, 7:31 am

 

Revlon said:

183. Dear daleandersen, I enjoyed reading your peom. Thank you.

June 6th, 2011, 9:12 am

 

Revlon said:

Za7lah (lebanon) also had its share of siege and cut off of electricity, water, and food and medicine supplies by the Braves of H Asad,in the 70’s.

There were Za7alawi infiltrators and Christian salafi’s then!

June 6th, 2011, 9:26 am

 

Revlon said:

Soldiers who fell martyrs for refusing to shoot at civilians.
They were fired at and killed by Security/Paramilitia thugs
June 6th
Apame, Qal3at AlMadeeq

Al Fati7a upon their soul,
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with patience.

شهداء الجيش السوري على يد رجال الأمن والشبيحة 5-6-2011

June 6th, 2011, 9:34 am

 

Revlon said:

Interesting dialogue on Al Mustaqilla TV, with a typical pro-regime caller from Syria.

It is hialrious. Watch and listen.

June 6th, 2011, 9:44 am

 

Revlon said:

Dar3a and 19 surrounding towns and villages are under Army siege and occupation and have been transformed into militery zones.

تقرير عن الوضع العسكري في المحافظة المدن و القرى المحتلة بشكل كامل من قبل الجيش و عناصر المخابرات و الشبيحة و تتميز بوجود عشرات الدبابات داخل المدينة و الحواجز العسكرية و عمليات اعتقال يومية و تخريب في الممتلكات و انتشار القناصة و إطلاق رصاص متقطع من حين إلى آخر و منع دخول الطعام والمواد الطبية لها و قطع كافة اشكال الاتصالات و منع إقامة الصلاة فيها أو رفع الأذان و مضايقات الأهالي الآمينين و ترويعهم و التهديد المستمر لحياتهم و هي: 1. مدينة درعا 2. مدينة نوى 3. مدينة جاسم 4. مدينة انخل 5. مدينة الحارة 6. مدينة طفس 7. مدينة الحراك 8. قرية نمر 9. قرية المليحة الشرقية 10. قرية المليحة الغربية 11. قرية ناحته 12. قرية النعيمة المدن و القرى المحاصرة و التي تتعرض لعمليات المداهمات الليلية والاعتقالات و تنتشر الحواجز الأمنية و الدبابات على مداخلها : 1. مدينة الشيخ مسكين 2. مدينة خربة غزالة 3. مدينة داعل 4. قرية تسيل 5. قرية سحم 6. قرية الشجرة 7. قرية عابدين 8. قرية حيط 9. قرية نافعه 10. قرية عتمان 11. قرية اليادودة 12. قرية جباب 13. مدينة الصنمين المدن و القرى المحاصرة على مداخلها بالحواجز العسكرية و مئات من شبابها تم اعتقالهم في جمعة فك الحصار عن درعا و التي غالبا ما يأتيها تهديدات من قبل القادة الأمنيين بأنه سيتم اقتحامها بالدبابات ما لم تتوقف عن التظاهر و تسلم المسؤولين عن تنظيم التظاهرات و هي: 1. مدينة بصرى 2. قرية السهوة 3. قرية معربة 4. قرية غصم 5. قرية المسيفرة 6. قرية الجيزة 7. قرية كحيل 8. قرية الكرك الشرقي 9. قرية بصر الحرير 10. قرية محجة 11. قرية الغرية الشرقية 12. قرية الغرية الغربية 13. قرية صيدا 14. قرية إبطع 15. قرية كفرشمس 16. قرية نصيب 17. قرية أم المياذن 18. قرية الطيبة 19. مدينة إزرع هذا واقع محافظة درعا تحت الاحتلال الأسدي الزائل بعون الله تعالى قريبا على يد أحرار سوريا و حوران الإباء و نؤكد أن كل التفاصيل المذكورة أعلاه صحيحة و موثقة لدينا بالصور و بشهادات الأهالي و نطالب بشار الأسد بسحب قواته من مدينتنا الصامدة فوراً و و نؤكد على عزم أهالي محافظة درعا الاستمرار في التظاهر السلمي حتى إسقاط النظام و محاسبة المسؤولين عن هذه الجرائم بحق 24 مليون سوري في وطننا الحبيب اعلم يا بشار أن حوران قررت أن لا عودة عن إسقاط النظام و أن سلاحنا هو أننا نحب الموت بقدر ما تحبون الحياة نحن لا نستسلم ننتصر او نستشهد

June 6th, 2011, 9:50 am

 

Revlon said:

Hama is in a state of rebellion!

Here is a lively confrontation between demonstrators armed with all mighty chants and stones on the one hand, and the regime men, including a cowboy paramilitiaman and riot police!

June 6th, 2011, 10:01 am

 

Mina said:

Iran war in the pipeline (can see no other reason for weakening Syria and HA now that Mubarak is gone)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MF07Ak02.html

June 6th, 2011, 10:17 am

 

Sophia said:

# 197, 873

Adam Gadhan was a close advisor to OBL and was in charge of the videos Al Qaida used to send to Al-Jazeera.
http://www.siasat.com/english/news/where-azzam-al-amriki

Plus, watch the convert phenomenon. In every terror plot since 9/11 (London, Madrid, Toronto, etc…) there is one convert and/or informant. In general these people are charged light sentences, released quietly, and they disappear from our view.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/13/jihadi-train-7-7-bomber-freed

The 2006 transatlantic flight bomb plot:http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1225687,00.html

The Toronto bomb plot:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/eveningnews/main1736007.shtml

An nearly exhaustive list of converts and the plots they promoted:
http://lespolitiques.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-all-al-qaida-bomb-plots-actual-or.html

I think Sunni extremism is largely manipulated by Israel and Saudi Arabia for political purposes. They are stupid and they did a lot of harm to Islam, Muslims, Palestinians and Arabs.

June 6th, 2011, 10:21 am

 

Mina said:

Sophia,
You should add the guy because of whom everybody has to throw away water and perfumes plus take off shoes at airports! Not a convert but another Londonistan kid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_%28shoe_bomber%29
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/bush-waited-nine-days-to_n_406307.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574317090690242698.html

June 6th, 2011, 10:40 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Sophie used the term “Sunni extremism”
At time Sophie call musslem Salafist.
These terms remind us with Israeli calling those they oppose,”anti semitic”

June 6th, 2011, 10:41 am

 

jad said:

From FB,

عشرون شهيدا من قوى الامن والشرطة في كمين نصبته عصابات مسلحة في جسر” الشغور …الشهداء كانو قد في طريقهم لتلبية نداء استغاثة من مواطنين تعرضو للترويع وهربو من منازلهم في جسر الشغور …نقلا عن الفضائية السورية”

“فرار حوالي ٢٠٠ مسلح من جسر الشغور بعد قتلهم عناصر الأمن وسرقة ألبستهم وسيارتهم وأسلحتهم وتوجهوا الى منطقة الحفة للوصول بعدها الى اللاذقية واريافها
يرجى توخي الحذر من اي سيارة مجهولة تدعي انها أمن
منقول من الجيش العربي السوري”

“تعزيزات أمنية توجهت إلى حيث نصب كمين لقوات الشرطة والامن
تحاصر المسلحين الذين تحصنوا في عدد من منازل جسر الشغور وبدؤوا بإطلاق النار على المدنين وقوات الشرطة.”

June 6th, 2011, 10:45 am

 

Revlon said:

Only 50 bodies of Army personnel have been delivered to their families, since the start of the revolution.

Where are the names and the bodies of the rest of the 900 dead soldiers, tallied thusfar by the regime!

The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
الثورة السورية :: التلفزيون السوري يعود الى المسرحيات العقيمة ..
والرواية مقتل 20 جندي من عصابتهم في جسر الشغور .. !!!
………………………………………………………………………………
التــعلــيق :: اين 900 جندي من شهداء الجيش ؟ للان لم تسلم الا 50 جثة للجنود
نريد قوائم الشهداء من الجيش .. ولن نقبل هذه المسرحيات والشعب السوري اكبر
ونوجه النداء لكل وسائل الإعلام بمطالبة ابواق النظام باعطائنا اسماء شهداء الجيش

3 minutes ago

June 6th, 2011, 11:05 am

 

Aboud said:

Thank you Revlon for #211, I was about to say the same thing.

In other news, the names, ranks and addresses of officers involved in the suppression of the Syrian people are being collected, with most of the information coming from the rank-and-file soldiers serving under them.

June 6th, 2011, 11:17 am

 

Syrian Knight said:

BREAKING NEWS: 28 police officers were killed just now in Jisr al Shugour by ‘Peaceful protesters.’

June 6th, 2011, 11:29 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Revlon, and Abboud:
Thank you for the informations.

There are people who like to spew hatred and enmity between Mosslems and christians, please remember that Both lived togather in the middle East respecting and dealing with each others,and make friends among themselves,they lived togather in the past and their destiny is to live togather in the future,instead of instigating hatred and malicious enmity,they should spread love and peace.and avoid terms that seperate us , specially I call on christians not to attack Musslems ,and on Musslems not to attack christians.

June 6th, 2011, 11:31 am

 

Syrian Knight said:

BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: The death toll among those brave police and security personnel is now over 40 in one day.

June 6th, 2011, 11:33 am

 

Mina said:

Majed #209
If you don’t know what she is talking about because you are Syrian and have been protected of that, just visit Yemen, you’ll get an idea. I remember the first time my friend’s daugther saw a cross on the wrist of a Coptic girl in Cairo’s metro and started to shiver as if she had seen a djinn. She was 13 and it was her first year out of Yemen.

June 6th, 2011, 11:40 am

 

Mina said:

There is a great article in the Asia Times (whose Pakistan editor has been killed last week while he was writing an article on al qaeda) on the recent trends of US politics in Asia. Playing Turkey against Russia?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/MF07Ag01.html

June 6th, 2011, 11:42 am

 

abughassan said:

i read a number of posts here and in other blogs claiming that Syrian soldiers were shot by fellow soldiers for refusing to follow orders. so far,these claims have not shown the expected results: defection,protesting,etc. and they are probably fabricated.I think the army is still a cohesive unit despite the pressure and the increasing death toll.those who target the army or are silent about attacks on the army are on the same side of the IDF. you need to remember that whether you are pro or anti regime,Syria needs a united army that can keep law and order,and this army is likely to take over the political leadership if things deteriorate and Bashar has to resign. take your hands off the army and find another toy,please.

June 6th, 2011, 11:50 am

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Mina I am worried about Syria not yemen ,not Egypt,remember this is not a conflict between Musslems and Christians, it is a conflict between despotism and dictatorship, and on the other side those who seek freedom and dignity, I hope you understand this simple thing.

June 6th, 2011, 11:52 am

 

Nour said:

SK,
I just heard the news. I don’t know if we can take anymore of these “peaceful” protests. It seems the more “peaceful”they are, the more people die.

June 6th, 2011, 11:52 am

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Majed
You should give your advise to Alaroor monster.
Iraq ,Egypt and Gaza are perfect example for the loving relationship you are talking about,Syria was the only place where Christians were prosecuted and now your public hanging god haters syrian Taliban will fix them.

June 6th, 2011, 11:53 am

 

simon said:

To Revlon
Why don’t you clear off to a nice cave in Afghanistan,it is cooler there and save us reading your garbage.
Revlon is a brand of a make up and you are ruining its reputation.

June 6th, 2011, 12:02 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Atom watchdog chides bombing of Syrian site in ’07

VIENNA (Reuters) – The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog took a swipe at Israel on Monday for “allegedly” bombing to rubble a suspected Syrian reactor site in 2007, saying the case should have been reported to his agency instead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110606/wl_nm/us_nuclear_syria_iaea

June 6th, 2011, 12:05 pm

 

Usama said:

allah yir7amak ya 7afez al-asad

June 6th, 2011, 12:05 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

The 43 police officers and security personnel were killed by an explosion.

June 6th, 2011, 12:07 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

S.N.K.
there is price for everything,there is two possible outcome for this crisis,either the regime win or the protesters win,remember there is price for everything,betting on the loosing horse,means major loss.

June 6th, 2011, 12:13 pm

 

jad said:

ممثل روسي في وكالة الطاقة الذرية: روسيا لن تؤيد مشروع قرار يندد بسورية لمخالفة التزاماتها

صرح غريغوري بردينيكوف المديرالروسي في مجلس المدراء للوكالة الدولية للطاقة الذرية لمراسل وكالة “ايتار – تاس” الروسية بان روسيا لن تؤيد مشروع القرارالذي طرحته الولايات المتحدة والذي يندد بدمشق لمخالفة التزاماتها امام الوكالة وضماناتها ويقضي برفع الملف السوري الى مجلس الامن الدولي. جاء ذلك على هامش اجتماع المدراء للوكالة الذي افتتح يوم 6 يونيو/حزيران في فينا.

وكان المبرر لطرح مشروع القرارالمذكور هي الاستنتاجات التي خرج بها خبراء الوكالة والتي تزعم بان المنشأة السورية المدمرة في منطقة دير الزور نتيجة قصف الطائرات الاسرائيلية كانت مفاعلا نوويا لم يبدأ استغلاله بعد.

وجاءت تلك الاستنتاجات بناء على معلومات سرية قدمها بعض الدول الاعضاء في الوكالة وصور فوتوغرافية فضائية للمفاعل المدمر.

وقال الخبراء ان هيكل المنشأة وطبيعة البنايات المساعدة تدل على ان المنشأة قد تكون مفاعلا مبردا بالغاز يزود بمبطئ غرافيتي تم انشاؤه بمساعدة كوريا الشمالية. وعلاوة على ذلك فهناك ادلة اخرى تشهد لصالح وجود مشروع نووي ، وهي آثاراليورانيوم والغرافيت وكبريتات الباريوم والفولاذ المقاوم للصدأ التي اكتشفها خبراء الوكالة اثناء التفقد الميداني للمنشأة المدمرة الذي اجرى في يونيو/حزيران عام 2008.

وتقول سورية بدورها ان الحديث يدور حول المشروع العسكري غير النووي الذي كان من المفترض استخدامه لتخزين الصواريخ واطلاقها. وقد طرحت دمشق فرضية مفادها ان آثار اليورانيوم ناجمة عن الذخائر الاسرائيلية التي استخدت لتدمير المشروع. ويذكر ان الموقع في دير الزور تم تطهيره تماما. اما الأنقاض والمعدات الصالحة فتم اجلاؤها الى مكان مجهول. والوثائق الخاصة بها ضاعت. وقامت سورية بعد ذلك باغلاق الموقع ورفضت التعاون مع الوكالة فيما يتعلق باستيضاح ما يخص الامر.

لكن جاء في التقرير الذي قدمه لمجلس المدراء المدير العام للوكالة الدولية للطاقة الذرية مايلي:” بعد دراسة كل المعلومات المتوفرة خرجت الوكالة باستنتاج ان المنشأة المدمرة يحتمل ان تكون مفاعلا نوويا. وكان يجب على سورية اعلانها بموجب اتفاقية الضمانات”. وجعل هذا البند الامريكيين يقدمون على طرح مشروع قرار الادانة بحق سورية.

واشار بردينيكوف قائلا:” يصف الجانب الروسي هذا القرار بانه غير متوازن وطرح في وقت غير مناسب. وفي حال طرح المشروع للتصويت فان روسيا ستصوت ضده”. واضاف قائلا:” قام السوريون منذ بضعة ايام بتوجيه رسالة الى الوكالة الدولية للطاقة الذرية حيث يبلغونها انهم جاهزون للتعاون. وبدلا من دعم هذه المبادرة يعرض علينا اتخاذ هذا القرار الذي يمكن ان يفسد كل شيء. واننا نحاول بشتى الوسائل اقناع الامريكيين بان هذا الطريق هو طريق غير صحيح ولن يجلب نتائج. ويبدو ان موقف الامريكيين يتصف بصرامة”.

وتجري الآن مشاورات مغلقة بشأن مشروع القرار. ويمكن ان يقدم المشروع للتصويت بعد يوم 8 يونيو/حزيران. ويجب القول انه يمكن ان يُتبنى لان معظم الاعضاء في مجلس المدراء للوكالة الذي يضم ممثلي 35 دولة موافقون عليه.

http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/559407

June 6th, 2011, 12:17 pm

 

Mina said:

Majed 219
The conflict between despotism and dignity is worldwide. It has to be fought with some brain in the process, because it is the West now who is reducing freedom day by day: people working like donkeys 40 to 60 hours a week with little chance to save any money for their children furture, no private life on internet or with your cell phone, stupid airport regulations, Guantanamo and justification of torture as a guarantee of success, thus legitimizing Israeli practices who are no different that those of the Arab hukkam, bowing to China, Saudi Arabia and Russia, who are no models of democracy. Freedom starts from your own house: a wife is not a maid, she has the right to raise her voice, religions are just a way for religious leaders to manipulate people and should be a private matter (there is no place for ‘religious leaders’ in the Coran).
If the protesters had been writing about their wishes, basically: more education, less private education, and the dissolution of the security apparatus (following the model of Egypt now), I would have been supporting them, but just reading who was pushing it on Twitter from day one made it very obvious where it was going: either a new Lebanon war, or an Iraqi situation, or a whole regional war (the most probable now). This will not solve the problem that was faced by most Syrians: prices of food, housing, taxes, and mazout too high. Except that it escaped their ‘political awareness’ (lol) that it was due to a global economic crisis.

June 6th, 2011, 12:17 pm

 

Friend in America said:

SOURI@73
I have been waiting for someone to move beyond tactical incidents to a strategic interpretation of the internal struggle. So I welcome your posting.
I understand from your post that the strategy of the government is rally the supportive portion of the population, which now is recognized as 50% in total, negotiate a settlement with one of the regional minorities (the Kurds) to obtain their support, rely on Russia and China to block any effort in the U.N Security Council to sanction the government and rely upon Russia and China (and Iran) for financial support. Achieving these goals will allow the government to survive even if the internal struggle continues for a long time. I believe I have understood #73 accurately.
This strategy, like all strategies invites questions:
• Can the government rally 50% of the population?
• Are the Kurds so significant that a change to supporting the government be a major loss to the insurgency?
• Is gaining (or keeping) the support of just 50% enough? Or, to rephrase this question, can a government survive if 50% of the population does not support it?
• Is the support of Russia and China solid? What happens if they stop supporting the government?

June 6th, 2011, 12:22 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

Some of the police officers were killed by the explosion. Others were victims of an ambush. The ‘peaceful protesters’ took some of the bodies, desecrated them, and threw them into a river.

There is no reason why the army should be showing restraint anymore. They should obliterate every stronghold of these radical Islamists. If it means going into Lebanon, then so be it. Lebanon is obligated to protect its side of the border with Syria, but this is obviously not the case.

June 6th, 2011, 12:24 pm

 

jad said:

The killed soldiers number is 80 now.

“وصل عدد شهداء قوى الأمن في جسر الشغور حتى الآن 80 شهيداً وعشرات الجرحى…..العصابات المسلحة ترتكب المجازر والأهالي يستغيثون”

“المجموعات المسلحة ترتكب فظائع ..من خلال التمثيل بالجثث وإحراق المباني العامة والخاصة و قتل المدنيين والأمن …ولجوء المواطنين إلى المراكز الأمنية لم يوفر لهم ملجأ …حيث هاجم المجرمون المراكز الأمنية بالقذائف والرشاشات…وقتلوا ومثلوا بالجثث”

“ارهابيين في جسر الشغور تقوم بسرقة 5 اطنان ديناميت من مشروع سد وادي ابيض من مستودعات المشروع و التي كانت تستخدم في انشاء السد”

“المجموعات الإرهابية ترتكب مجزرة حقيقية في المركز الذي قامت بمهاجمته في جسر الشغور وسقوط 37 شهيداً من قوات الأمن ومثلت بجثث الشهداء وألقت بجثث البعض في نهر العاصي”

To # 211-212, Maybe if the criminals don’t throw the soldiers’ bodies they killed and mutilated in Alassi river, they can be buried properly.

Aboughassan,
Do you think the organizers and the people in the street understand a thing about your idea of keeping the army out of their political games, they actually doing the exact opposite and all those who are denying the army side victims and coming up with outlandish explanation just to deny the existing of guns between part of the protesters are intentionally blinds.

June 6th, 2011, 12:34 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Mina #228
What you are saying has nothing to do with the issue I am saying, none of what you said has anything to do with the issue of Musslems vesus christianity.
by the way you want to shout at your husband go ahead,who is stopping you?
About regulations in the airport, I want you to know I feel safer if regulations stopped terrorist from blowing plane I am in.
Please remember, dictators lost and will loose ,Hitler,Mosolini,Stalin,saddam mubarak,and the list is long, and soon you will hear your Idol will bow down and will kneel at the feet of his people.

June 6th, 2011, 12:40 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Post revolution in Egypt.
I just spoke to a friend in Egypt and he told me that a second wave of the revolution is on the way in Egypt because the army and the MB are getting too cozy and the old regime elements are attempting a coming back. He says that even the director of the Cairo opera is an ex military. They are everywhere and they want to stay everywhere. The youth is also suspicious about the destination of the money KSA is pouring as they think KSA objects to have Mobarak condemned to capital punishement this is what the young revolutionaries want, so where is the money going? To the MB and the army!
Nothing is clear in Egypt anymore

June 6th, 2011, 12:42 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

Look how silent the criminal Islamists like Majed and Revlon are upon the news of a massacre of more then 80 Syrian police officers and security personnel.

June 6th, 2011, 12:43 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Oh such a pitty, 40 brave men with brave guns belonging to the dictatorship have been killed by untrusty bedouins and village people (not the 70´s band but almost). Also some 20 palestinians that just tried to go to their home as they use to do daily during last 40 years and found a very unexpected surprise, i.e. that some one had decided to put a border on their way home.

Oh please fu(….)ing pro-regime, we trusted you when you said that your president would arrange everything in 15 days. But it has been almost 3 months and he has nothing to do. You are a disaster. Please go home or find a solution. People is in a very worrying situation, and money is not flowing, many companies are closing, etc. and of course families, wives and children of the dead are suffering too much. Please Maher we need you to die!!!

June 6th, 2011, 12:43 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

Sandro, you are worthless and don’t deserve to be called a human being.

June 6th, 2011, 12:48 pm

 

Nour said:

SANDRO LOEWE supports the killing and mutilation of security men in Syria and then claims this is a “peaceful” protest movement. By the way, just for your information, when we say security men, that does not automatically make them thugs. These are men who provide security to government buildings or who are regular police officers barely making ends meet. But you have been so incited with hatred and spite that you rejoice in the killing in mutilation of fellow Syrians. Syria will never move forward until such mentalities are completely exterminated.

June 6th, 2011, 12:50 pm

 

SANDROLOEWE said:

#236

Ah ah ah, you say:

(These are men who provide security to government buildings or who are regular police officers barely making ends meet).

Sorry but we do not need men that provide security to governemnt buildings. We need men that provide security to the people of Syria, instead of shooting at them while people asks for freedom.

Regarding MAKING ENDS MEET, please do let me cry. I think you do not know what is daily live in Syria. Police and security have a very stressing live trying to make ends meet by stealing people like you and me. Well, maybe not like you cause I think you have no relation with Syria.

June 6th, 2011, 1:00 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

#235 Oh my God, I see powerfull and confident pro-regime shabab have become human too. Now they have feeling for the dead. When 1.200 people have died under shabiha apparatus it came that they were just killing islamist dogs and terrorists. Now that the turn has come to the policemen and security professionals now you feel sad and value human life. That´s real hipocresy and unhumanity.

June 6th, 2011, 1:04 pm

 

jad said:

The interior minister on TV now, he said that they decided to go FULL SCALE WAR against the military gangs.

“وزير الداخلية :: سنتعامل بحزم وقوة وفق القانون ولن نسكت عن اي هجوم يستهدف اي مدينة او محافظة من محافظات سوريا”

Are the armed gangs gone totally mad to destroy everything even for the real peaceful protesters?
Good job Antalya!

Syrian.tv
المجموعات الإرهابية تقوم بتفخيخ محطة توليد كهرباء سد زيزون ومحطة تحويل كهرباء جسر الشغور

June 6th, 2011, 1:04 pm

 

democracynow said:

Best 3aradah ever…

June 6th, 2011, 1:06 pm

 

Mina said:

Keeping a foot in the Mediterranean, after Ben Ali’s defect
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2011/06/06/armed-forces-may-still-be-in-libya-at-christmas-115875-23182454/

(Does anyone know more about Mohammed Hassanein Heikal’s claim recently that it was Ben Ali who had tipped to the Israeli the precise date and first scheduled hour of the 1973 attack?)

June 6th, 2011, 1:13 pm

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

229. Friend in America,

50% is huge support. The regime is arming huge militias. They definitely can control the country no matter what happens if they have enough manpower. All they need to do is to minimize the smuggling of weapons into the country. The Syrian government was preoccupied with the smuggling of weapons since day one. They contacted Jordan and Iraq to seal their borders, and they pressured Lebanon to reduce the weapon influx from there. The only open borders for the rebels now are the Turkish borders.

The Kurds are very valuable. The regime relied on them in the 1970’s-1980’s to control the eastern region. The Arabs in the eastern region were mostly pro-Iraq at that time (there was heated contention at that time between the Iraqi and Syrian factions of the Baath party. This dispute between the Syrian and Iraqi regimes over legitimacy helped inflame the rebellion in Syria just like how Turkish-Western intervention is now inflaming it). The Kurds are also very valuable in matters related to Turkey. They are Syria’s strongest card against Turkey. The regime also waved the Nusayri card when they asked some Turkish Nusayris to go and demonstrate in Antalya against the “opposition conference.”

If you have enough armed people, you can control the country no matter what happens. The regime does not rely solely on Alwites like many stupid Westerners believe. There are many people from all religions who will lose everything if the regime falls. Those will remain loyal to the regime to the end. The maximum power base that the rebels can mobilize is ~50%.

June 6th, 2011, 1:21 pm

 

jad said:

The number of killed soldiers in Jisr Ashghour is now 82 and 120 injured but Addounia TV is reporting 120 killed:

Syrian.tv
إرتفاع عدد شهداء قوى الأمن إلى 82 شهيداً و أكثر من 120 جريحاً في هجمات العصابات المسلحة على مراكز قوى الأمن والمباني العامة في جسر الشغور

Addounia.tv
ارتفاع عدد الشهداء في جسر الشغور إلى 120 شهيدا
about a minute ago

June 6th, 2011, 1:22 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

This site has a crew of commentors who can be definitely labeled as terrorist,they live in the west,but they have evil minds.they claim to be civilized but they are barbaric,they love blood and violence and death.they are sick minded,extremist,useless,losers.The world will see the actions of there jihadists on the ground and when things settle down will spit in ther face.
You can be a very educated person but still be a terrorist.
If the west has any intellectuality they have to understand that this war which the Syrian army is fighting is on the front border of war on terrorism,my biggest fear is if the west and the US
Are being Isreal’s puppies and doing what they are doing for Isreal’s agenda,that will be a disaster.that happened in Iraq where ther was no American benifit gained and it was pure Isreal’s interest .
So for those people who call every one on this site :mokabarat,Assad agent etc…you all are empty .many people on this site are good and just worried about there country.And to the jihadists on this site I will translate this to you from Arabic :IN EVERY HOUSE THER IS A BATHROOM.

June 6th, 2011, 1:23 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

News about 40-80 security men will be very probably a fake. Or if it is true there will have been an ambush from shabiha or republican iranian guard. They need a massacre in the regime side to justify the total war. Now they have an interior justifying reason to show total brutality they showed in Hama. It is like Saleh in Yemen, he tried to create a civil war because he could not win a war against civil peacefull people. Now by this self massacring its own men he will say he has a reason to destroy insurgency.

But, in Occidental News there is almost no news about this massacre. I do not think it works, cause at the end bad news about the regime will prevail. Only total News manipulators like US can afford Maine affair, Pearl Harbour and 11-S without being unveiled by the mass media.

June 6th, 2011, 1:24 pm

 

Nour said:

SL:

First you were cheering and justifying the killing of security men. And now you are saying it’s a fake. So which is it?

June 6th, 2011, 1:29 pm

 

Shami said:

The dying shabiha regime should get the big price of lying,deception and hypocrisy.

June 6th, 2011, 1:30 pm

 

Usama said:

Souri,

I don’t know where the hell you got this 50% from. If there was 50% against, Asad would have been toppled in 2 weeks. Stop spewing out such outrageous numbers without any evidence. Less than 0.5% went out to protest, so let’s say 5% are against. How about this, let’s make it 10%. Where the hell did you get 50% from? Even now with 120+ security officers and policemen dead? Even now that they know the Hama guy they hanged in public was an unarmed civil servant? The only way the people, the army, and the security officers will turn against Asad is if he fails to let them do their job properly and with all necessary force and equipment. Enough is enough! Allah yir7amak ya 7afez.

June 6th, 2011, 1:33 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

After almost 3 months standing unhuman and very low and repulsive comments about people offering their souls for freedom, confronting armed security forces,with no arms in their hands. People that has given his freedom for long years in prison, his life, and left children and wife, etc for a better future, for a better Syria for all…but you kept on jocking all the time about dramatical facts. Now you become serious and dramatic about the dead of security services while many of your were happy about killing your terrorists as soon as possible to end your problem.

June 6th, 2011, 1:35 pm

 

jad said:

Syrian forces battle gunmen, 80 killed: state TV

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/06/us-syria-ambush-idUSTRE7553AI20110606?feedType=RSS&virtualBrandChannel=11563

(Reuters) – Syrian forces fought hundreds of gunmen in a northwestern town and 80 security force members were killed, state television said on Monday, in the first report of a major clash in the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.

The television said armed groups set government buildings ablaze in the town of Jisr al-Shughour, stole five tonnes of dynamite and were firing at civilians and security using machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades.

“The security forces have managed to end a blockade over one of the neighbourhoods (in Jisr al-Shughour) that was seized by the gunmen for a while and are now battling them to end the blockade on the other neighbourhoods,” it said.

“The gunmen mutilated some of the bodies and threw some into the river. The people in Jisr al-Shughour are urging the army to intervene speedily,” it said.

Activists earlier said a security operation had been under way in the town since Saturday in which they said at least 37 residents and 10 police were killed.

Authorities have prevented most international media from operating in Syria, making it impossible to verify accounts of the violence from activists and officials.

Protests against Assad have grown despite reform gestures dismissed by the opposition and a continuing crackdown that has killed at least 1,100 people since the uprising against Assad broke out in mid March.

Residents said the wave of killings in Jisr al-Shughour erupted on Saturday when snipers on the roof of the main post office fired at a funeral for six protesters killed during a demonstration a day earlier.

Angry mourners set fire to the post office after the shooting, said one Jisr al-Shughour resident, a history teacher who gave his name only as Ahmad. The Syrian state television said eight security members were killed when armed gunmen attacked the post office building.

It said at least 20 security members were killed in an ambush by “armed gangs,” and another 37 were killed in an attack on a security post. It did not report residents’ deaths.

Jisr al-Shughour, a town of 50,000 people, lies on a road between the coastal city of Latakia and Syria’s second city of Aleppo, which have seen little protests against Assad so far. The town is of Sunni majority but activists said there are Alawite and Christians villages in the area.

Rights campaigners say some deaths of soldiers or police during the uprising have been the result of the killing of security forces trying to defect or refusing to obey orders.

June 6th, 2011, 1:36 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

The Syrian bathroom needs to be flushed.

June 6th, 2011, 1:37 pm

 

Usama said:

Yes because almost all of your videos were fabricated and faked. You wouldn’t need to do that if you had a real populist base, and you wouldn’t need to do that if real massacres were being committed against civilians. When the eyewitness in Homs says “there was 10000 of us and they shot at us, bullets coming at us like rain” then we find out only 4 people were hurt? What a joke. If the security forces were really doing what you guys are saying, there would be MANY more deaths. I used to get upset when I hear about civilians dying, but not anymore. When you see this kind of stuff happening, and you still want to protest for reform, then clearly you don’t care about the country and I don’t care about you.

June 6th, 2011, 1:39 pm

 

Nour said:

SL:

The only repulsive and low comments were said by people like you. No one claimed that the Syrians who died in these latest events are all terrorists. But many were rejecting the notion that this was a purely peaceful protest movement, and it was not. Soldiers and security officers have been getting killed since almost the very beginning. I can’t think of anyone, however, who rejoiced in the killing of fellow Syrians the way you rejoiced in the killing of Syrian security officers and categorically labeled all of them as “thugs”. We are trying to avoid a catastrophe in Syria and are calling for cooler heads to prevail so that we can come out of this period with the least losses possible. Most of us have also condemned the behavior of the regime and held it responsible for much of what is happening, including the killing of innocent Syrian civilians. But to pretend that the so-called “revolutionists” are purely innocent “pacifists” is totally absurd. And to expect us to simply trust these “revolutionists” blindly is ridiculous.

June 6th, 2011, 1:49 pm

 

simon said:

So shocking to read some of the comments,how human being can be full of hatred to this extent,just to prove being militant and extremist is asking for self destruction,if anything you are approaching your end with your wahabi or salafi or whatever you are called,being fanatics is self burning and you are not helping your cause.

June 6th, 2011, 1:52 pm

 

daleandersen said:

Memo to Usama:

Open your eyes, boy. You’re in denial and denial is not a river in Egypt.

The shots being fired in Syria by the al-Mukhabarat are being heard all over the world. They’re not fake. They’re real. And as for caring, it’s the protestors who are the ones who care about their country. They’re saying Syria is NOT Bashar Assad’s private property to do with as he see fits. It’s over for the Assads and Bashar is the only one in Syria who doesn’t know it, because no one around him has the guts to tell him…

http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/05/hitler-and-arabs-nazis-in-middle-east.html

June 6th, 2011, 1:52 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Dalenandersen

Please stick to your poetry!

June 6th, 2011, 1:53 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Syria “clearly” inciting Israel border protests: U.S.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/06/us-palestinians-israel-usa-urgent-idUSTRE7554GP20110606

The US “clearly’ inciting Syria internal protests: ME

June 6th, 2011, 1:58 pm

 

Nour said:

أنباء عن إطلاق نار في مخيم اليرموك بدمشق وسقوط قتلى وجرحى

أفاد عدد من سكان مخيم اليرموك بدمشق أن “هناك أحداث إطلاق نار في المخيم أسفرت عن سقوط عدد من القتلى والجرحى”.

It seems we’re heading toward civil war if things are not brought under control.

June 6th, 2011, 2:03 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Nour

Are we going to see a remake of Ain El Helweh with extremists salafist hunted everywhere taking refuge in a palestinian camps and using the palestinians civilians as hostages.
The aim is also to create enough diversion to exhaust the Syrian army in the crackdown.

June 6th, 2011, 2:09 pm

 

jad said:

It’s the 80th allover again:
-The army is marching toward Jisr Alshghour to surround it now and they are asking people to go hide in the basements. I hope that Jisr Alshghour wont be the second Hama….Why violence always reveal in our region?
-People in the streets of Damascus are calling to impose the emergency law…AGAIN!
——————————————-

International news outlet are trying hard not to admit that violence did exist before and soldiers have been killed not by the army but by some military gangs, this news it must affect the Ghandi-like image of everything happening in Syria they were painting for three months now, just notice the tone of the report, as if they are surprised and unbelieving reality:

Syria police ‘killed in clashes’ in Jisr al-Shughour
Continue reading the main story
Syria Crisis

Eighty members of the Syrian security forces have been killed in clashes in the north-western town of Jisr al-Shughour, state TV reports.

Reports said 20 police were killed in an ambush “by armed gangs”, while dozens more were killed in clashes with gunmen inside the town.

There has been no independent confirmation of the claim.

It would be the deadliest such incident claimed by officials since protests against President Assad began in March.

The state TV claim came a day after rights activists said at least 35 people, including police, had been killed in Jisr al-Shughour, close to the Turkish border.
‘Grenades’
Foreign media are greatly restricted in Syria and the details of these reports cannot be independently verified.
Syrian Interior Minister Ibrahim Shaar said the government would respond “decisively” to the attacks.

State TV said hundreds of armed gunmen had taken over parts of Jisr al-Shughour, attacking government buildings and setting them on fire.

It said gangs using light weapons, grenades and stolen explosives ambushed police as they approached the town, killing 20 officers.

The police convoy had been “on their way to rescue citizens being terrorised” by the gangs in Jisr al-Shughour, said the report.

Another 37 security officials were killed in an attack on the town’s security centre and eight in a bomb attack on a post office. Others died in clashes throughout the town.

“The armed groups in Jisr al-Shughour carried out a genuine massacre and mutilated some of the bodies,” said the TV report.

The Sana news agency quoted an official as saying security forces were surrounding houses from which armed men were firing weapons.

The official said the gunmen were using residents as human shields.

‘Shot in the back’
But the BBC’s Jim Muir, in the region, says if official reports are correct, this would be the most serious resistance yet to the government’s efforts to control the uprising.
It would also be the first time officials have admitted to such a large loss of personnel.

Our correspondent says there has been an unusual lack of information about the clashes on opposition websites and Facebook pages.

One protest site said the town had been surrounded and there were suggestions some members of the security forces had switched sides.

An eyewitness in Jisr al-Shughour told BBC Arabic the protesters did not have weapons.

He said all the soldiers who died had been “shot in the back by some Syrian security elements”.

Human rights activist Mustafa Osso also told the Associated Press he doubted the claims by officials, saying the protesters had so far been peaceful and unarmed.

The Syrian protests began in mid-March in the southern town of Deraa and have spread to other towns and cities.

Activists say more than 1,000 people have been killed in the unrest.

On Monday, residents of the central town of Hama told BBC Arabic they were observing a general strike, and that shops were closed for a third day in mourning over the killing of 70 protesters last Friday.

Meanwhile, residents of Adlib, in the north-west, said the headquarters of the ruling Baath Party had been burned down following a huge protest there.

Amnesty International has condemned the “brutal treatment” of protesters in Syria, and has called on the UN to refer the situation to the International Criminal Court.

Bashar al-Assad, whose family has been in power for four decades, has promised to introduce reforms, but this has done little to placate his opponents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13672725

June 6th, 2011, 2:09 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

#254 NOUR

I think your are near to paranoia. Did I ever say this?

*** I can’t think of anyone, however, who rejoiced in the killing of fellow Syrians the way you rejoiced in the killing of Syrian security officers and categorically labeled all of them as
“thugs” ***

I just said that now 100 armed security men have been killed. And that Maher death would be very positive for Syria. Do you think negotiations are possible with someone like him ???

Are you afraid of hearing these words? Just look the psychiatrist, paranoia, and stockoholm disease or stockholm syndrome.

June 6th, 2011, 2:10 pm

 

Gobi said:

Is it possible that one see is unites of the Syrian Armed forces fighting each other?

June 6th, 2011, 2:13 pm

 

Nour said:

SL:

You’re suffering from serious hysteria and I’ll stop directing any comments to you, as you are among the hopeless from our people.

WD:

I just hope that cooler heads prevail and we move rapidly toward a solution to this crisis. This means the regime has GOT to speed up the reform process, as it has already dragged its feet and as a result aggravated the situation.

June 6th, 2011, 2:15 pm

 

Souri333 (formerly Souri) said:

#249,

If you read my older posts, you would have known what the 50% I am talking about is. This is the maximum support the rebels can gain. It is not the current size of the rebellion.

June 6th, 2011, 2:16 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

I am really disappointed, pro regime are saying tha syrian protesters life is O.K. to sacrifice and kill,while soldiers who are killing the protesters ,their life is regarde at a higher level, Human life is equal, soldiers were entrusted by the people to defend them they turn around and kill the people, those soldiers betrayed the trust,their life is as important as the civilian ,the difference is betrayal of trust.

Further this is a revolution, after demonstrating peacefully,for long all they get is bullets from criminal security officers, there will be a time when people will have to defend themselves,and they have full right to do so, and yes they defend thenselves and therefore there will be cASUALTIES FROM THE OPPRESSION AND CRIMINAL SOLDIERS WHO BETRAYED THEIR PEOPLE,,TO CRY FOR THE DEATH OF THOSE , DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, IT IS THE REGIME ARROGANCEAND INTRANSIGENCE who shpild be blamed, the regime is dictatorial, and the people are asking for their legitimate right of freedom.

June 6th, 2011, 2:27 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

#263

I am sorry but I do not suffer hysteria I just suffer depression about reading your posts about what freedom and democracy should be from a pro-regime point of view. Negotiations with regime while people are in prison, being tortured, being beaten, being killed is something really makes me ill and depressed. Guantanamo depressed me. The syrian prisons too.

June 6th, 2011, 2:29 pm

 

democracynow said:

Nour,

Don’t worry about a civil war. The Palestinians of Syria are wholeheartedly with the popular protests. They know very well the suffering of the oppressed.

June 6th, 2011, 2:35 pm

 

democracynow said:

Majed,

I hear you. I also find it particularly amusing that people like Abu Ghassan would not ‘support’ any opposition movement unless it admits that security personnel and army soldiers also fell victims in the ‘clashes’…

I mean, that’s a funny prerequisite. It’s like some silly American suggesting that he won’t support Rodney King’s right to free trial until every black person admits that black people rioted and killed police and torched supermarkets.

That is, mind you, assuming that the ‘armed group’ story is correct. The Syrian state TV belongs to the regime, and I won’t believe a word of what’s they’re saying. The lack of transparency in covering the events is the responsibility of the regime. Go cry foul to Bashshar if you’re too scared of your fellow countrymen who are putting their lives on the line to demand their freedom and YOURS.

June 6th, 2011, 2:47 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

Does it come as a surprise to anyone that the extremists here who pretend to mourn the loss of life, turn around and cheer for the lost lives of others when they have no way of defending the crimes of the revolution? I don’t know about anyone else, but for my part, I fully expected this. The extremists are rodents. They don’t care about people. They say it themselves that it is OK to kill millions of people if it furthers their own goals. The US is no different. They killed 1.5 millions people in Iraq with no remorse, yet pretend to be concerned about the loss of life in Syria, all the while defending Israel’s slaughter of 23 peaceful protesters as a means of self defense.

June 6th, 2011, 2:48 pm

 

simon said:

The rebels will never reach 20% of the population in Syria,and they are not revolutionist,they have no clue about the meaning of Democracy,tolerance or freedom,they are stuck in the medieval ages with their ideology,if anything they are missing a lot from this life by their blinded hatred and lack of respect of the ideas of other, and their overwhelming sense of revenge.
They are not calling for equal rights,they are just pure vindictive.
if any thing this uprising is going to teach them a lesson about learning to be moderate and stop abusing their sacred religion.

June 6th, 2011, 2:58 pm

 

Syrian Knight said:

After the operation in the Jisr over, we will be able to see into Turkey from the very opposite end of the city 😉

This is no different at all from what happened in 1982. The Muslim Brotherhood was killing thousands of innocent people, and the army fought them for a few years while the president applied some of the demands they had asked for (While ignoring the stupid ones). Nothing was enough for them, and then in 1982, when the Muslim Brotherhood slaughtered dozens of army cadets in one day (Much like today’s incident), the decision was made to obliterate the city after fair warning was given to its citizens to leave.

Nothing is different. Nothing has changed. The Muslim Brotherhood are the same, rabid, murderous gang they always were, only this time, they have Facebook. It’s amazing that these filthy dirt bags even know how to click a computer mouse.

June 6th, 2011, 3:11 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

Sandro low,Majed
Freedom is not freedom to kill,if the regime is guilty for doing that,today events puts you in the same category.This is a major change in events,you are exposed and ورقة التوت has fallen.Don’t be so exited ,the Syrian army was not born yesterday,those rats in jisr alshoghor will be cleaned up .just think one time and clean up your brain from the sectarian worms inside it:Is this good for Syria?how many years it is going to take for tourists to come back after the public hanging clips?
There is no question that the jihadists will be defeated,the only problem is that the country’s flower vase has been shattered,and nobody will ever be able to fix it.

June 6th, 2011, 3:20 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Count Ali Abdullah Saleh as deposed dictator, what is left are Gaddafi and Bashar.
Ibrahim Sha33ar,minster of Interior,the brother of Dr. Akram Sga33ar,threaten more murder and killing of the civilians,to the chagrin of the pro regime people.they are willing to kill million syrian.this is sure sign that the regime is inviting foreign intervention.

June 6th, 2011, 3:21 pm

 

Usama said:

Nour

Wake up please, this isn’t about reform, and it never was. As soon as emergency law was lifted on a Thursday, the “activists” were saying “too little too late”. These people are going nowhere. The army will suffer casualties, but they will win in the end.

Souri

My bad, I misread, although I still think 50% is way too high, especially after today.

Dale

Don’t you have some Bibi ass to kiss after giving it a standing ovation? Keep your nose in your own Bibi ass business.

June 6th, 2011, 3:27 pm

 

jad said:

Syrian.tv
تمت سرقة 27 سيارة امن من جسر الشغور وسرقة هويات رجال الامن وعناصر جيش ولباسهم يرجى من الجميع الانتباه وبالاخص اللاذقية وجبلة و قراها و حلب
إلى سكان مدينة اللاذقية أي شخص يرتدي لباس أمن أو جيش يثير الشك لوحده دون دورية إبلاغ الجهات المختصه حيث أن الإرهابيين في جسر الشغور ارتدو ثياب رجال الامن والجيش الذين قتلوهم وقدمو إلى محافظة اللاذقية

June 6th, 2011, 3:29 pm

 

Mina said:

Majed
You would be hilarious if people were not dying. You think they have no dictators in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Iraq?
People in Algeria and Sudan have tried to organize demonstrations but al Jazzara cameras were not there because it didn’t serve Qatar agenda (by the way, not a democracy, just the current emir who succeeded his father with a coup, after the very guy had himself succeeded to his cousin by a coup).
And what about Morocco, where bloggers and activists are being killed, one by one, as the weeks pass??

June 6th, 2011, 3:30 pm

 

Nour said:

Usama,

This isn’t about reform for the extremists you’re right. But it is about reform for the majority of the Syrian people. And the idea of introducing and implementing those reforms is not to placate the extremists, but to better fortify Syria against internal and external dangers by allowing society at large to take part in the political process and share in the decision-making of the state, so that the people truly feel that the state is THEIR state, thereby making them more likely to defend it.

June 6th, 2011, 3:50 pm

 

Jad said:

Since when Palestinians exchange fire is Syria?!
What a bloody day 🙁

اطلاق نار على مشييعين في مخيم اليرموك وانباء عن احراق مبان لاحد الفصائل

أفاد مراسل سيريانيوز في مخيم اليرموك للاجئين الفلسطينيين في مدينة دمشق أن هناك أصوات إطلاق نار في حي الخالصة في شارع ال15 وقيام مجموعة من الناس بإحراق مقر الجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطين القيادة العامة وعدد من السيارات الموجودة بالحي.

ونقل المراسل عن مجموعة من سكان المخيم أن “الأحداث بدأت في مقبرة الشهداء عند تشييع شهداء يوم الأحد على الحدود مع الجولان حيث نشب شجار بين المشيعين و ممثل الجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطين _القيادة العامة ماهر الطاهر”.  
وقال المواطن الفلسطيني بلال أن “عناصر مسلحة قامت بإطلاق عدة رشقات نارية في الهواء بعد أن قام المشيعون بإنزال جميع رايات الفصائل الفلسطينية جميعها في المقبرة وطردوا ممثليها ومنهم عضو الجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطين_القيادة العامة ماهر الطاهر الذي كان موجوداً ,حيث اتهموهم المشيعون بالمتاجرة بدم الشعب الفلسطيني وأنهم ليسوا سوا تجار بالقضية الفلسطينية,ولكن هذه العناصر أخذت تطلق النار على المشيعين العائدون من المقبرة بمنطقة الخالصة في شارع ال15,حيث كان أكثر من خمسين ألف شخص بالتشييع “.
ولفت مراسل سيريانيوز إلى نقل جرحى إلى مستشفيات مدينة دمشق لأن المستشفيين حلاوة و فلسطين قد امتلأت بالجرحى وأن هناك أنباء عن قتلى ولكن لم يتسن لنا التأكد من العدد.
وقالت مواطنة سورية مقيمة في المخيم تمكنت من الخروج إلى مدينة دمشق أن “القتلى بالعشرات ويتم وضعهم في معارض ومغاسل السيارات لأن المستشفيات امتلأت بالجرحى والقتلى”.
وقال مراسل سيريانيوز أن هناك أنباء عن إصابة ابن القيادي ماهر الطاهر تنتشر بين الأهالي ولم نتمكن من التأكد من صحة المعلومة لأن عناصر من مكافحة الإرهاب تطوق المنطقة ..
 
سيريانيوز

June 6th, 2011, 3:59 pm

 

Nour said:

Jad,

This is a sad day indeed. It seems the only way we know how to resolve our differences is by killing each other. How depressing.

June 6th, 2011, 4:21 pm

 
 

N.Z. said:

I truly feel sorry for all the Syrians, including the Palestinians living in Syria under this brutal regime. Whether they are ordinary citizens or security forces.

This is a regime that not only kills its citizens but the level of intimidation it applies on the all levels of society is appalling and can no longer be tolerated.

The web of lies they spun throughout their ruling years seem to have many on this comment section oblivious to what is fiction and what is not.

In the end, tyranny will end and this mafia will disintegrate like all those before them and after them.

June 6th, 2011, 4:30 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

The argument of the existence of other dictatorships to defend the dictatorship of Syria or at least its higher degree of inocence is very perverse. I love Syria and that is enough to denounce the state of things in Syria. Those who love Bahrain or Saudi Arabia or other countries will manage to try to topple them or deal with those realities. This forum is about Syria and we can defend or critize the situation in Syria, in itself. Syrian people is showing that against all odds it has become to be one of the bravest peoples in recent history, against Israel first, against Bush after, and against the war crimes they are suffering now. Whatever the result finally be they are brave, much more than I ever expected.

June 6th, 2011, 4:30 pm

 

Usama said:

Nour

Of course reform is needed, but not immediately with the current situation. I also strongly believe the need for political reform is being exaggerated. If the need for bribes is eliminated from performing paper work and making it less convoluted, I think that alone will satisfy most people. With emergency lifted, state security court abolished, wages increased, social programs extended, employment programs expanded, peaceful demonstrations allowed under license, there are a few other things that should be done, but I highly doubt enough people care about political reform. It is important, however, to apply political reform within this year to be pro-active, but it is not required right now. How many normal everyday Syrians actually care about political parties today? I’m interested in what you (and others with brains) think about that. Do you really feel political reforms are needed immediately at this stage of events?

And all those MB shits that were released need to be locked up again or kicked out. I’m very disappointed Bashar let them out.

June 6th, 2011, 4:35 pm

 

Majed97 said:

The gloves are really off now

Today’s development is significant, and should put to rest any doubts about the violent nature of this uprising. I’m not sure how Hillary, and the western countries, could possibly spin this one, and continue to claim that Bashar is killing “peaceful protestors”…

Unfortunately, the next few weeks will be the bloodiest yet; thanks to those mad MBs who insist on destroying the country. Many more Syrians will die, including some innocent ones, but make no mistake order will be restored, after which reforms should resume in an orderly fashion. Syria will suffer some economic damage for few years, but it will come back after teaching those thugs a lesson in humility, and shove them back into their caves.

Let’s hope for a quick and decisive end to this madness…

June 6th, 2011, 4:37 pm

 

Usama said:

Jad,

Last week a friend of mine who’s originally from the Yarmouk camp told me many of the Palestinians in the camp were attacking and looting shops within the camp. I really can’t understand why.

June 6th, 2011, 4:38 pm

 

jad said:

WD,
It’s at 123 now not 80 anymore, let SL celebrate more!

Usama,
What do they want?

June 6th, 2011, 4:39 pm

 

Usama said:

Jad, which are you referring to? What Palestinians want or what I think Syrians want?

June 6th, 2011, 4:45 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 242 Mina,

That might be true. I read in a French article that Leila Trabelsi was sent to Ben Ali by the Mossad. A French journalist wrote a biography of Leila titled ‘la régente de carthage’ and there are some chilly facts about her, including the fact that at the time she was dating Ben Ali, a person (with a past in prostitution) with her name and surname was dating another general and that this person was killed on the orders of Mrs Trabelsi and that her lover was later imprisoned by ben Ali.

I am not surprised by this, one has to remember that when Ben Ali rose to power Arafat and the PLO were hosted by Tunisia and Israel and the Mossad had interest in infiltrating the highest levels of the state.

June 6th, 2011, 4:48 pm

 

jad said:

Usama,
I’m referring to the Palestinians looting in Yarmouk camp, why they are doing that?

June 6th, 2011, 4:50 pm

 

Sophia said:

What happened in Jisr Shoughour indicates that the Syrian revolution 2011 intends to drag the country in a civil war.

However, the Syrian revolution is not only violent but also very dumb. Its only strategy is to increase its violence by the day, and this will surely convince the Syrian people not to join this revolution while at the same time making sure the state apparatus stays united.

I am not seeing any comments from our wahhabis zionists friends at these news, except of course SL. I am wondering how are they going to explain their peaceful revolution.

June 6th, 2011, 4:55 pm

 

Usama said:

I really don’t know. Maybe taking advantage of the events going on around. There are thieves and criminals everywhere. It’s one thing to loot shops, since the financial incentive is obvious, but what do they gain from shooting and fighting among each other? I wonder if there are rivalries between factions in the camp similar to some camps in Lebanon. The article you posted seems to be critical of the PFLP, which disappoints me because I always found them to be the most consistent and secular Palestinian resistance movement. Whatever it is, I hope they solve their differences today before tomorrow.

June 6th, 2011, 4:56 pm

 

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

Bashar is ignoring Erdogan’s warnings, that Turkey will not allow Hama to repeat.
123 in one day, this doesn’t look like something that “armed terrorists” can do. The fog of war gets thicker. The high number could suggest that the armed forces are atomizing, and fighting each other. Or that the junta inflates the numbers in order to legitimize a more brutal crackdown. Either way, this looks bad and is worrying.
.

June 6th, 2011, 5:04 pm

 

Nour said:

Usama,

I do think reforms are very important. Of course I am not calling for reforms in a chaotic manner so that we end up with instability and a security vacuum. However, having the Baath party proclaim itself as the head of state and society indicates to most Syrians that they are not part of the political process and that the state is not their state, but rather one where they are being ruled by another power. This in reality weakens the country because most Syrians will not feel truly attached to their state, since they don’t really have a vested interest in it. However, if you make it where different sectors of society feel that they have a say in the running of the state, Syrians at large will want to protect their system of governance, which they will feel represents their interests and in which they have a real vested interest. This will strengthen Syria and fortify it against any potential threat. It will also strip the extremists of any cover for their crimes.

June 6th, 2011, 5:13 pm

 

jad said:

Usama,
I’m asking because the image of all these elements we are hearing about are in my memory close to the image I remember from the very early beginnings of the Lebanon civil war and the 80s in Syria.
Tiered and confused central government, people in the street shouting ‘one one one’ referring to religions, Palestinians exchanging fires in their camps, massacres against civilians and against police and soldiers, international and regional pressures for power struggle and NO CLEAR of any solution in the horizon.
It’s so very depressing days.

June 6th, 2011, 5:16 pm

 
 

daleandersen said:

Memo to Majed97:

Re: “The gloves are really off now…I’m not sure how Hillary, and the western countries, could possibly spin this one, and continue to claim that Bashar is killing ‘peaceful protestors’…”

What does this have to do with Hillary Clinton? Why do you care what she says? Oh wait! I get it! I forgot that you’re from the Middle East and you people think anything bad is an American-CIA-Jewish-Imperialist conspiracy. God forbid that the Syrian uprising is as a result of ordinary Syrians tired of being jerked around by the Assad mafia.

Never mind.

http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/05/hitler-and-arabs-nazis-in-middle-east.html

June 6th, 2011, 5:20 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Jad

I am really surprised that there is no curfew imposed.

June 6th, 2011, 5:21 pm

 

why-discuss said:

daleansdersen

We don’t care about Hillary says, because it is usually gibberish, the same way we don’t care about what a wannabe poet zionist says.

June 6th, 2011, 5:24 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Syria says protesters killed security forces

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syria-claims-security-forces-killed-by-protesters/2011/06/06/AGJuYNKH_story.html

…A Syrian human rights activist who has been monitoring the protests from outside the country but is not politically active said that he had spoken to people in the town who confirmed that the protesters were armed. He asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the subject.

“Something very sad is happening and it is against the spirit of the peaceful protests,” he said. “Too many people have been killed in Jisr al-Shughour. It is something not like the protests we have seen before.”….

June 6th, 2011, 5:28 pm

 

jad said:

WD,
“A Syrian human rights activist”
Is it Haytham Mana3 again?

No curfew, No internet cut except last Friday in the period of 3 months and No emergency law, like in Tunisia and Egypt where emergency law still on.
However, everything is closing very early lately except in Damascus and Aleppo, in other cities nobody is in the streets after 7pm according to a friend of mine who just came back from Syria.

I feel sorry for the Bachaloria (high school exam) students, the exam started yesterday, how can any body study or concentrate in a situation like this.

June 6th, 2011, 5:33 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Satanovsky says the “so-called Arab Spring is not a spring. It opened the gates to power for radical islamists.”

Russia’s caution toward revolution comes from having experienced two major revolutions in the 20th century – the communist uprising in 1917 and the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

“Experience how quickly euphoria about revolution disappears and will be replaced by completely different reality,” said Yukanov. “This is the Russian experience.”

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/Russian-Envoy-Tries-to-Mediate-Libya-Civil-War-123258078.html

June 6th, 2011, 5:39 pm

 

jad said:

بأمّ عيني: السكاكين والمسدسات والبنادق والقنابل… ومجرمون يقطعون طريق دمشق – حلب!

حدث أن حواري الإذاعي على شهبا اف ام كان اليوم، الإثنين، 6 حزيران 2011، الساعة الثانية ظهرا. وبما أنني أنتهز الوقت حتى آخر قطرة منه، غادرت كراجات دمشق في التاسعة صباحا، متأملا أن أصل حلب في الواحدة والنصف من بعض الظهر.

طوال الطريق من دمشق إلى حلب، مرورا بمحطة استراحة داخل حماه، كان الوضع عاديا باستثناء حافة محترقة في منتصف الطريق، وثلاث عربات نقل كبيرة (شاحنات بدون صندوق) محترقة أيضا، والكثير من بقايا الإطارات التي ما زالت مشتعلة، وأنصاف حواجز من الحجارة أو الكتل الاسمنتية.. فيما دخلنا حماه هادئة، بعض المحلات مفتوحة، دورية واحدة للمخابرات على مدخل المدينة لم توقف أية سيارة خلال فترة مرورنا من امامها، وبقايا شعارات على الجدران القريبة من كراج حماه لم يجر طمسها بعد، مثل: يا كلب يا بشار! بدنا إعدامك يا بشار!

إلا أن الجانب الآخر من الطريق الدولي، الراجع إلى دمشق، وبالقرب من مفرق خان شيخون، كان يعترضه نحو خمسة شبان يجمعون الحجارة وإطارات السيارات، وأجبروا السيارات القادمة من حلب على التحول إلى الخط الذاهب، بحيث تحول إلى اتجاهين..

وصلت متأخرا، طبعا، وأمضيت ساعات مع الزملاء ليندا بلال وشادي الجندي، على الهواء، وما إن انتهينا حتى غادرت فورا إلى دمشق، مستعجلا إنجاز الكثير من العمل المتراكم دائما.

ما إن اقتربنا من خان شيخون حتى بدأت سحب الدخان تتبدى من بعيد. ظننت أن الأمر لن يتجاوز إطارات مشتعلة. والساعة تقارب السابعة مساء.. لكن الباص اضطر أن يتوقف خلف طابور من السيارات الكبيرة والصغيرة، قبل أن يفسح له المجال للتقدم بسبب اضطرار كل تلك السيارات إلى الالتفاف للعودة إلى حلب، فالطريق مقطوع بالاتجاهين بالإطارات المشتعلة، وكتل الصخور، والأطفال!

وصل البولمان إلى الحاجز مباشرة، فإذا بنحو عشرين طفلا وشابا لا يتجاوز أكبرهم الثامنة عشرة من عمره، باستثناء اثنين، يمنعان الحركة ويهددان الجميع بأن يلتفوا للعودة إلى حلب، رافعين شعار النصر بأيديهم!

لكنه شعار مشوه. فأيديهم لم تكن فارغة أبدا!

على صدر أربعة منهم “جعب” ذخيرة (حقائب الذخيرة)، وفي أيدي هؤلاء الأربعة أسلحة رشاشة أتوماتيكية (كلاشنكوف، أو روسية)، وفي الأيدي الأخرى لاثنان من هؤلاء، وثالث آخر، قنابل يدوية يلوح بها! فيما يقبض آخرون على مسدسات أو سكاكين ذات نصول طويلة! ويلوحون بها!

لسبب ما حاول المرافق في البولمان أن يطلب منهم السماح للبولمان بالمرور، فتتح الباب فامتلأ الجو بالدخان الأسود، ودخل واحد من هؤلاء الأطفال مع مسدسه إلى داخل البولمان، وصرخ: هوياتكم! ثم اختار عشوائيا نحو 6 أشخاص ليلقي نظرة على هوياتهم، ثم يضحك ويقول: افسحوا الطريق.. هؤلاء….

وفورا، أزيح إطار بضعة سنتيمرات، وحجارة من الجهة الأخرى، ليمر البولمان من خلال هذه الفتحة الضيقة مع تحذيرات من “الشباب” أن يمشي بهدوء حتى يبتعد عن الحاجز، دون أن يسرع!

لكن الأمر لم ينته، فبعده واجهنا حاجز ثان، من نفس الطبيعة، مع نفس التشكيلة من الأسلحة!

وبعده حاجز ثالث تتجول فيه سيارة “مدنية” صغيرة فيها أربعة أطفال وسائق، بدا منهم وجه واحد تكسوه لحية مراهق، وتشرع من النوافذ الأربعة للسيارات فوهات البنادق الآلية!

أما الحاجز الأخير، فكان يحيط به أكثر من 15 موتيسكل، تظهر من أقفية بعد راكبيها المسدسات بوضوح شديد!

وصلنا إلى قرب المفرق إلى مدينة حماه، لتغيب هذه المناظر، وندخل مدينة هادئة كما تبدو، بعض العائلات تجلس على العشب المصفر، بعض المحلات مفتوحة، وبعض الأطفال يلعبون في الشوارع، وما تزال الشعارات تلك لم تطمس بعد!

وصلت إلى دمشق، نزلت من البولمان مرهقا من تعب السفر ذهابا وإيابا وحوار ساعات، بلا توقف، توجهت إلى أقرب تكسي، ومضيت إلى بيتي.. وكعادتي في “شق حديث” مع السائق، دردشت قليلا معه. وحين أشرت إلى ما رأيت، سألني: أين حدث هذا؟ قلت له: خان شيخون. فضحك قائلا: إذا أنت لم تر شيئا بعد.
سألته: ماذا تقصد؟ قال: أنا من خان شيخون. الأسلحة وزعت بالسيارات.. وهذا الذي رأيته هو لا شيء مما هو فيها وحولها وفي مناطق مختلفة..
تمنيت له ليلة عمل شاقة (فهو لم يحصل حتى اللحظة ما يكفي لكي يؤمن لقمة أسرته)، وتمنى لي ليلة سعيدة، وحبسنا غصة.. ومضينا كل في حال سبيله..

*- ثلاثة أطفال بمسدسات وسكاكين كانوا يراقبون نوافذ البولمان بدقة شديدة، ومن الواضح أنهم يدققون فيما إذا كان أحد ما يصورهم.

*- فتاة مراهقة كادت تسقط مغشيا عليها حين صعد إلى الباص ذلك “المراهق” برائحة دخان الإطارات، ومسدسه بيده.

*- هذه المشاهدة ليست موجهة، بالإطلاق، إلى أي من المجرمين الذين يتسترون على الإجرام الذي يملأ سورية، تسموا معارضة أو نخبة أو مثقفين أو فنانين أو أيا كان اسمهم.. فهي جميعها اسماء مراوغة لاسم حقيقي واحد: الشركاء في الجريمة.

http://www.bassam-alkadi.com/content/view/583/44/

June 6th, 2011, 5:41 pm

 

aboali said:

lieutenant defects and tells what happened in Daraa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaDmBX51TM

Syria: ‘Gay Girl in Damascus’ Seized
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/06/06/syria-gay-girl-in-damascus-seized/

June 6th, 2011, 5:48 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

If there was freedom of movement for internal and international press this massacre in Syria today (as well as all previous massacres that makes a probable total of some 1.500 dead) would be first new all around the globe. But since the regime has banned all journalists from entering Syria we have no verifiable news.

The regime says: we forbid all journalists from every country in the world because they are not trusty. But you have to believe every single word and report we issue because we are really trusty.

Do we have to believe what they say? If yes, please tell me why?

By all they actions, and by denying reality, they are driving this country to a total disaster.

June 6th, 2011, 5:53 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Jad

I don’t know but it is the first time an activist sounded shocked on how his peaceful protesters have turned ugly.
He is waking up from early denial, I guess

June 6th, 2011, 5:54 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

I am not pro-violence by it is obvious that when you abuse someone who is peacefully demostrating and asking for their constitutional and human rights there are only 3 possible outcomes:

1- Your recognize their demands by negotiating without use of force.

2- You reduce your victim to nothing, by killing, repressing, torturing, etc. and after try to negotiate with a slave.

3- You try to reduce your victims and finally they take arms when they find they are going to be massacred.

It is easy to talk, it is free. But if you were under siege and fearing for your lives, receiveing arms from a near border and with possible support from a very near and powerfull neighbouring country you would probably defend yourselves.

It is sad but this is what history and experiences tell us, and president should know. And he probably knew and expected this point so he can use the only argument he has, the use of force.

June 6th, 2011, 6:03 pm

 

Nour said:

Jad,

That article by Bassam al Kadi is actually very worrying. The government has to step in and put an end to all these appearances. Otherwise we are in a steady decline toward chaos.

June 6th, 2011, 6:05 pm

 

FreeSoldier said:

Folks,

It is obvious from today’s causalities count (assuming it is correct) that the Syrian army has started to break up and that different brigades are fighting each other.

Time will tell but Assad’s remaining days in power can now be counted.

June 6th, 2011, 6:07 pm

 

jad said:

WD,
I agree, I think most activists were living in a different world than reality.
The news today is playing against anybody who denied either the killing of soldiers, or the arm existence in the hands of some elements of the uprising.
They kept denying that and blaming the army on every dead soldier until they fall into the trap of ‘we can’t deny that anymore.’
However, I’m sure that someone will come up with another outlandish explanation soon. (After writing my comment I read FS comment, the army is fighting, Good one!, see WD, an explanation will come out soon and the media will run with it, like Alkhanzeera)

I’m sorry about the Gay girl but I’m not surprised at all, why would we be so surprised and shocked of this news?
She wrote all these critical articles, she became fame and western media favorite figure because of her gender and she make herself the enemy of the regime in Syria not Sweden, of course the moukhabarat will take her to have cup of coffee for couple days..this is the norm in the middle east, nothing shocking or new, we just hope that she go out in couple days/weeks safe.

June 6th, 2011, 6:08 pm

 

jad said:

Nour,
It’s very worrying, who knows how many people those gangs killed on this road without knowing or hearing about? Couple weeks ago I linked a story about a family being stopped and they killed their son just because they were from Aleppo and someone immediately call the story a lie, but after Bassam’s article I believe it.

June 6th, 2011, 6:19 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 309 Jad,

The explanation about protester’s violence is starting to come out. Nidaa Hassan, pseudonym, Guardian correspondant in Damascus is saying two contradictory things at the same time:

1. It is normal that after being shot at the protesters are resorting to violence
2. It is the regime who is arranging these events in order to justify its crackdown on the protesters.

June 6th, 2011, 6:19 pm

 

jad said:

Sophia,
Nidaa can write all he/she wants but the truth will come out sooner or later, besides, Dr. Landis in his exchange with Qunfuz couple weeks ago wrote that for the uprising to succeed they have no way but to use arms, I think they listen.

June 6th, 2011, 6:25 pm

 

SF94123 said:

Chaos and civil war not freedom and reform were the ultimate objectives of Antalya Opposition Conference.
I have no doubt, order will be restored in Syria within a very short time.. When all is said and done, Syria will be free from those mad mb, pest, thugs, Taliban-kind and criminals.

June 6th, 2011, 6:26 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Jad

I hope the army will remain strong and united because with the unleashing of these violent and ruthless armed gangs on high roads, their task will be hard and heroic.
Who cares about the international community? Either they bomb or they shout: UN resolutions and sanctions are only enforced when it is convenient to the US. Diplomacy is dead a long time ago. Only military power counts, otherwise why are the manufacturers of weapons (including Israel’s) making more money than ever and rich countries (KSA) buying latest weapons.

June 6th, 2011, 6:40 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 312 Jad,

I am not sure the Syrian revolution 2011 will succeed by using arms. This will lead to the army staying united to defend itslef and protect civilians and on the side of the regime, and because of this there won’t be any foregin intervention and the protesters cannot win against the army without foreign intervention. But Dr. Landis meant that a prolonged confrontation may hurt the regime by hurting the economy but I am not sure that even this will work, Lebanon had a 15 year civil war and the country,s economy was for many years on its knees without the parties being tired because in a civil war priorities change, you don’t think about the accumulation of wealth and economic well being, you only think about surviving…

An armed confrontation is a bad calculation. Only a peaceful and constructive struggle can bring down the regime because it sets the moral conditions for winning the confrontation, it rallies the people of Syria and it can potentially divide the army and the regime. But I don’t think the Syrian revolution 2011 is capable of this because of two weaknesses: on the inetrnal level it is being orchestrated on the ground by mostly uneducated people (you just have to see the mess they did out of their cell phones and other communication tools sent by the US ), on the external level it is being controlled by people (Hariri, neocons, Israel) who want the revolution to be violent because they want to destabilise Syria, and eventually Lebanon, and highten sectarian tensions, more than they want the fall of the regime.

June 6th, 2011, 6:41 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

SL
(I am not pro-violence)
You are full of sh…t

June 6th, 2011, 6:41 pm

 

ss said:

314. WD

I like your comment.
I agree with you, the international community will either bomb, which is less likely as this will not serve the American interest, or shout. FYI: 5 US killed in Iraq. It is not in the interest of the US to have trouble in the recent relative stability in Iraq.

Assad must crush the armed revolution. There should be no mercy. Army men being killed, tons of explosive found in Jisr Alshogoor. Enough is enough. Assad must take care of this as the people fed up with these gangs.

June 6th, 2011, 6:52 pm

 

ss said:

313.

SF94123

“I have no doubt, order will be restored in Syria within a very short time”

You are very optimistic. The Antalya people and others in the opposition had invested heavily in money, arms, weapons, to make sure that this is not short lived. I am not that optimistic in regard to the short time frame, neither I am optimistic that this opposition really understands a civil solution. There should be no mercy with them. They are not missing an opportunity to make trash the regime internationaly, they are even successful in recruiting some people to their side. The time is not with the regime. The regime must restor order BY FORCE. I know many of the opposition here will start shouting “the regime is killing people”. That is bullshit. The regime is trying to reach a political solution and has not been bruital. If the regime was bruital we should have had thousands and thousands of dead people. Do not forget that the opposition is counting the dead army and Amn…..They have been lying an d lying. Like Sharameeeet

June 6th, 2011, 7:01 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Sophia

Lebanon economy collapsed because most factories and country industrial infrastructure were destroyed and the country got a huge debt under Hariri’s reconstruction plan marred with corruption.
This is not the case of Syria.
I don’t believe Syria’s economical problems will be as acute as Egypt and Tunisia, even if these will receive some money from IMF and conditional promises by the Western countries.

June 6th, 2011, 7:13 pm

 

Aboud said:

Baathist hysteria…the gift that keeps on giving. Like the hysteria of #318. I collect such comments, and make sure they get as wide a readership as possible. Why bother refuting Baathist posts when they do such a magnificent job of discrediting themselves with their own words. “The regime is trying to reach a political solution and has not been bruital [it’s “brutal” ya zaki, brutaaaaaaaal]”

Remember when the army first invaded Dar’a, how the Baathists scum on this blog gloated and cheered the imminent deaths of hundreds? The disgraceful way they egged their fellow shabiha scum ever onwards? How did that work out for you? Not too good.

Any Syrian living in Bab Esba3 and Khaldia has more freedom to go and travel abroad than the eye doctor has. He doesn’t dare show up on television anymore, every appearance has been such a fiasco.

June 6th, 2011, 7:16 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Some of pro-regime here are lost and losing momentum. When some heavy arguments are put in front of you then you just come out with bad words and insults. This is the clear probe that your arguments are useless and uneffective. Keep on cheering the regime actions and chaos and you will help to drice your country to a total state of chaos and war. Keep trying to show that you understand each other and understand the logics of what is happening while banning differing opinions and you will be following your beloved regime strategy. Your regime has been killing and torturing in a complete impunity, and that is enough. Nothing else to say.

June 6th, 2011, 7:19 pm

 

why-discuss said:

Jad

I wonder why the US embassy is nor asking for the immediate release of the Gay Girl, she is american, isn’t she?

June 6th, 2011, 7:19 pm

 

why-discuss said:

SL

“Nothing else to say.”
Are you serious? that would be a relief!

June 6th, 2011, 7:24 pm

 

jad said:

WD,
I read somewhere that they will deport her.

#323 funny!

June 6th, 2011, 7:41 pm

 

Nour said:

Interesting. This is from CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/06/06/syria.violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

“An opposition member who lives outside Syria but has sources inside the country who have proved reliable in the past said the clashes over the past three days in Jisr Al-Shugur, Khan Shaykhun and surrounding villages were between members and supporters of the Islamist group the Muslim Brotherhood and the Syrian security forces.

He said that 90 security members and 23 opposition members were killed Monday. In addition, nine tanks were destroyed and two helicopters were downed, he said.

He said the weapons had been taken into the country from Turkey, whose border is about 20 kilometers away. The wounded, he added, were being taken to Turkey for treatment.

The man, who has asked not to be identified for fear of reprisal, said Muslim Brotherhood supporters have long opposed the Syrian regime and were taking advantage of the uprising to settle their score. He further expressed concern that the brotherhood could hijack the peaceful secular uprising.”

I guess they’re talking about the same opposition figure mentioned in the other article posted by WD.

June 6th, 2011, 7:51 pm

 

syau said:

#320,

Inta ya azka, has the revolution not been brutal? The only way you seem to think you can make your ridiculous points is by constantly referring to people as scum.

You either do not acknowledge the deaths of security personnel by the hands of your so loved silmya revolutionists, or you cry fake is not fake when their despicable fabrications are exposed. Hysteria reflects your intelligent comments.

Those deluding themselves in saying they are peaceful and unarmed are now admitting they have arms to defend themselves, what a joke.

#303, I think the Damascus gay girl will be amazingly released and will be able to lie through her teeth at how she was treated while being held in order to further her popularity and recognition.

If security personnel were interested in apprehending her, they would have done it when she faked a stroy about the mukhabarat being scared off by her father.

June 6th, 2011, 7:52 pm

 

jad said:

I’m not going to link the clip I just saw because it’s horrible and can’t be sure if it’s authentic or fake, it shows 4 dead police and soldiers on the road killed by fire arms and those who killed them are saying how they did it, they don’t sound neither ‘Shabiha’ nor ‘Soldiers’ as someone suggested early.
Just search for TheSyria80 or قسم من شهداء الجيش والامن في جسر الشغور .mp4
on youtube.

June 6th, 2011, 7:56 pm

 

syau said:

Jad,

It is disgusting, but I’m sorry, I am going to link it. I wonder what Revlon, Shami, Aboud and Majedkhaldoon will think when they see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uQx0eiofMI&feature=channel_video_title

One of them has a conscience telling the other not to take one of the dead soldier’s money because “fatos”, while the other says he looks Alawi (which makes it ok). They are animals and the words they are using to describe the murdered soldiers reflects the level of intelligence they have. One of the soldiers also gets a kick in the face.

Tara, let me know if you still think they are practising “Silmya”

The army needs to act swiftly and eradicate these monsters so that normalcy or some semblance of it can return to Syria.

June 6th, 2011, 8:07 pm

 

jad said:

SYAU,
The sectarian language was as horrific as the graphics.

The UN resolution against Syria is going south after Gabon and Nigeria sided with Russia, china, Lebanon, SA and Brazil against it:
تعرضت الدبلوماسية الاوروبية إلى صفعة في مجلس الأمن حيث ارتفع عدد الدول التي تعارض أي قرار يدين سورية إلى سبعة دول بعد انضمام الغابون و نيجيريا إلى روسيا و الصين و لبنان و جنوب افريقيا و البرازيل

June 6th, 2011, 8:16 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

SANDRO LOEWE, I agree with your #304.

Very sad indeed. Unfortunately, with Libya and the rest of the ME bursting at the seams, I don’t think anyone is going to touch this problem with a 10 ft pole. The Syrians will have to find a way out of this. I hope it ends with democracy and freedom.

June 6th, 2011, 8:21 pm

 

syau said:

Jad,

I think the world is now waking up to what China and Russia knew all along.

You’re right, the sectarian talk is just as horrific as the graphics. That should make it evident where sectarianism lies because it’s definitely not the regime.

I’m so angry that my children are growing up in a world filled with so much hate.

June 6th, 2011, 8:29 pm

 

daleandersen said:

Memo to SYAU:

Thanks for the vid. Yes, it is graphic and horrific. But who’s to blame? The people fighting back? Or the Army and the Secret Service who regularly as a matter of course treat innocent people like this every day?

Put the blame where it belongs, on the Assads who have turned everyone into animals!

http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/05/hitler-and-arabs-nazis-in-middle-east.html

June 6th, 2011, 8:35 pm

 

Nour said:

It seems that these “revolutionists” are stupid and arrogant. If you think that the vast majority of the Syrian people are going to think twice about fully supporting the Army in its clean-up operation after the surfacing of these videos then you’ve got another thing coming.

June 6th, 2011, 8:38 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian Knight,

You said “After the operation in the Jisr over, we will be able to see into Turkey from the very opposite end of the city ….You have also called for the “wiping out of Hama” in a previous comment. You called the others “rodents”

Please read below and think about it. Below was a study about the Holocaust and applicable to any crime against humanity

From

http://www.enotes.com/genocide-encyclopedia/psychology-perpetrators

“If one could attribute the genocide to specific bad or insane types of people, the future might seem different. All that …necessary was to screen out the potential killers and prevent them from completing such evil acts, and the world would become a safe place once again.

People are not usually born with genocidal mentalities; such a mentality is developed and created by the architects of genocide by insulating from their original social network and an alternative network has to be created for the potential killers, composed of men like themselves, led by a genocidal authority. To successfully achieve insulation, the architects of genocide have to be equipped with strong mechanisms for social indoctrination. They have to maintain full control of the reward and punishment system for the men assigned to conduct the killing. The planners of genocide can provide potential killers with food and social advancement, and they can also decide to kill them if they do comply. The planners must provide potential killers with a convincing rationale for committing genocidal acts. This rationale should include a moral or positive goal achieved by the genocide (e.g……”eliminating the cancer of our nation”), combined with monolithic dehumanization and devaluation of the target population (e.g., “They are bad: the bacteria of our society”).

There is usually a paradoxical message in this rationale: The target population is seen as being both strong (the threat) and weak (they can be easily killed), but the clear division between the good (us) and the evil (them) is stronger than this paradox. Ethnic differences can easily be used to develop such a rationale, especially when there is a history of ethnic tension, oppression, and exclusion.

Do perpetrators see themselves as evil criminals? Not surprisingly, the answer to that question usually is no. How could the Nazi perpetrators of genocide … maintain a “moral self-image”? They were able to maintain such a positive self-image through the psychological mechanism of doubling: That is, they succeeded in building a kind of inner wall between what they did at the killing site and how they continued to live their personal lives. One of these individuals, a former soldier, confessed that after being ordered to do so, he stabbed a six-year-old girl who ran to him from the ruins of the Warsaw ghetto after the Jewish uprising. He admitted that ever since the “brown eyes of this girl never gave him peace”

To those of you who are turning a bind eye on the killing of 1200 + Syrians, I wish the brown eyes of all the Syrian children killed so far never give you peace!

June 6th, 2011, 8:38 pm

 

syau said:

Daleanderson,

The ones to blame are the ones who organised this revolution, the ones who fueled peoples sectarianism and people like you who seem to cheer them on.

June 6th, 2011, 8:39 pm

 

Revlon said:

#303 Dear Abuali, thank you for the link.
Abdelrazzaq M. Tlas of Rastan, Homs to my knowledge, is the first Military with the rank of officer, to have announced defection from the Syrian army.

– He is a First Lieutenant

– He Witnessed massacres in
o Inkhel, dar3a, led by Officers “ Bassam Jdeed” and “ Nidhal Sqr”
o Sanamein 1st, led by “ Abu William” and another un-named Officer
o Sanamein 2nd, led by an un-named Officer

– He pleaded to his fellow officers from Rastan, Dhmair, Qsair and Idleb to defect.

– The tent in the background, as well as addressing officers of particular areas underpins the significant leverage and impact of the tribes on the proceedings of the revolution.

This is a very promising sign for the revolution.
It reasserts the escalating trend of mutiny and the piling up of pressure on the army to cease their intervention in the civil uprising or risk a more serious and inevitable mutiny.
It also serves to uderscaore the probable presence of an underlying and much wider, psychological and mental states of readiness to and attempts of defection.

June 6th, 2011, 8:55 pm

 

Nour said:

Tara,

Increasing evidence is mounting that this is NOT a peaceful movement by any stretch of the imagination. Yet you continue to repeat the same tired old line that all those who oppose the filthy thugs like the ones that appeared in the video above support the killing of Syrians. I guess logic and reason are the first casualties of rabid hatred like that expressed by the “revolutionists”.

June 6th, 2011, 8:57 pm

 

Jad said:

Dear SYAU,
While I agree with you that some of the blame is on the organizers, the regime, share is much bigger out of it’s responsibility over Syria and Syrians and we wouldn’t be watching all these crimes committed, the regime wasn’t that much brutal from day one, and if it did proper and public prosecutions against all security and official employees who committed all sort of crimes from the beginnings and giving everybody you blame the reasons to do all these moral and physical crimes against Syria, am I right or no?

I wouldn’t take his majesty the lieutenant too serious, we saw many fake guys like him before, some people need to hold their joy so they won’t get disappointed later.

June 6th, 2011, 9:02 pm

 

friend in America said:

SOURI333 @243
• If the borders are sealed, where does the government get the weapons to arm the friendly 50%?
• Is there any possibility some of the friendly 50% who have been armed will turn on the government?
• I think there is a risk arming the civilians will result in the government in Damascus will lose control to the armed 50% and the other 50%.
• What is the composition of the “other 50%”?

June 6th, 2011, 9:08 pm

 

Nour said:

Jad,

A lot if things should be blamed on the regime. They acted arrogantly and foolishly over a long period of time thinking they were immune. They were also too busy engaging in corruption to effectively secure the country against arms smuggling. This was supposed to be a security regime (nizam amni) and yet there is now no security in the country. They better finally get it through their heads that reform is critical at this stage or else they’re going to take the country down with them.

However, this does not in any way excuse these criminals wreaking havoc in the country and most Syrians now want the army to put an end to them once and for all. And in my opinion the MB should he forever banned as it cannot ever possibly represent the Syrian people since it will always carry a religious sectarian agenda.

June 6th, 2011, 9:14 pm

 

Jad said:

” to cease their intervention in the civil uprising ”
Killing 123 soldier in ond day is ‘Civil uprising” even the regime didn’t kill that much in one day
CIVIL!! I would laugh if it wasn’t too depressing.

June 6th, 2011, 9:19 pm

 

syau said:

Jad,

Yes, mistakes were made and the government admitted to that, and, somethings could have been handled differently, but that does not give people the right to take the law into their own hands and commit the most horrific of crimes.

The revolutionists intentions right from the beginning is what we are seeing today. From day one they added fuel to the fire of sectarianism because they knew that is one way they can cause the most damage. They did it under the banner of demands for reforms, yet when the reforms were announced and being implemented, they didn’t stop. That says it all. Divide and conquer is their strategy.

The revolutionists had arms from before the uprisings began. This was planned to the very last detail. They launched a media war with mountains of fabrications, in line with the crimes committed.

Syria has known decades of peace. Clowns such as Fida Alsayed and the one who is now known as ‘ponytail’ -(thanks Jad) are fueling further hate and division. They along with others who organised and instigated this revolution are ultimately to blame for this.

June 6th, 2011, 9:19 pm

 

Tara said:

Syau

“Syria has known decades of peace.”

It is like: ” He was happily married…. But his wife wasn’t.”

40 yrs of peace and security to the regime and 40 yrs of oppression to the wife.

June 6th, 2011, 9:32 pm

 

Abughassan said:

Tens of cars were stolen from security forces in aljisr and many uniforms. This will be used to produce more fake videos to inflame public opinion and show acts of violence and torture being committed by the army and security forces . It pains me a lot to say this but I lost faith in this bloody revolution and I think Bashar should resign if he does not end this travesty by Friday and let the army take charge . Enough is enough. I will not believe anything that comes out of this army of criminals posing as freedom fighters. The time will come for political discussions about reform,but you can not reform street killers and you should not care about the UN if Syrian citizens do not know if they will survive tomorrow or not. A third world country needs a strong central government. Democracy comes later. I said before: this revolution shot itself in the foot.

June 6th, 2011, 9:32 pm

 

jad said:

Nour,
I’m in agreement with you and I’m not excusing the organizers of all these crimes and for escalating the conflict to this dangerous level on the expense of Syria and Syrians.

SYAU,
I also agree with you about the organizers intention from day one, they weren’t looking for any reforms that can help all of Syrians to have a better lives, or to keep Syria united and independent, they called for international intervention from day one and I’m convinced that some people used arms very early in the conflict and I never bought their story of the army killing it’s own soldiers, it may happened and probably 2 or 3 soldiers died by mistake of their friends but the majority of the 270 soldiers were killed by armed militia.
I think Antalya was hijacked by those criminal mind clowns you mentioned and those guys in my opinion are responsible for the bloodbath we are witnessing now, they represent the real danger of Syria and all Syrians.

June 6th, 2011, 9:37 pm

 

syau said:

Abughassan,

Two of the cars have been identified as :
Silver Prado- licence plate #571161, and
White Isuzu – licence plate #571363.

They contain security and army ID’s.

Reports suggest they are possibly heading for Hiffeh, Latakia or Quardaha.

I hope the people there are warned.

June 6th, 2011, 9:42 pm

 

Syria no kandahar said:

SC is becoming mini-Syria :
-Syrian Taliban/mini-Aroor jihadist:Revlon,Aboali,sL,daleanderson,Akbar palace.
-Pro-secular Syria:Nour,Souri,Jad,abughassan,Sophia

Talking to the jihadist group is as good as talking to Binladen or Alzarkawi or Kaled Shiek Mohamed ,they have the same evil brains ,they just wear a tie.
The second group is pro-Syria ,united,secular,free of wahabi and extremism.

That is how Syria is now.you have to make choice and either be in the light or stay in the dark like a bat in jisr alshoghor cave.

June 6th, 2011, 9:48 pm

 

syau said:

Jad,

I feel sick at the thought of any more killings, they also show no signs of stopping their horrific acts, just escalating them.

Now they have moved on to stealing security cars and uniforms for yet another mountain of fabricated clips and no doubt they will kill innocent people to further their cause.

Be ready for an onslaught of links by Revlon in the comming days and weeks.

June 6th, 2011, 9:52 pm

 

Real Syrian said:

What happened in Jesser Alshagor has opened the doors of hell on the Islamic radicals…..They provoke the government and the civilians to establish a civil war……After this brutal action and the sectarian language they use……….Let us imagine the action of the army towards this event………..God knows and everything is fair in love and war

June 6th, 2011, 9:57 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

I hope joshua does not depend on pro regime commentors,they spread,and spew only LIES,they can not say the truth,I am sure Joshua verify his informations,and I salute him and applaud his effort,Thank you Joshua.
Abdulrazzaq Tlas showed beyond any doubt,the massacre after massacre the army officers are committing, when the army fight the enemy we all support him ,but when the soldiers kill their own people they are betraying the syrian people, and they are helping the enemy, for that they function as agents of the enemy, they deserve to be killed for that.
Assad will fall,no doubt about it, more defection in the army will come to surface,since the regime is not limiting its action in one area, they are attacking several areas in Syria, there bound to have officers from some area the regime is attacking, and one day it will be defection on a large scale.

June 6th, 2011, 10:26 pm

 

tara said:

Syau, # 329

I watched the link. It is no longer Silmya. I agree.

This was destined to happen though. Do I condone it? Absolutely not! At this stage of the game, some people will take up arms. Others will continue demonstrating unarmed. Ultimately, who bears the responsibility? And where do we go from here?

Jad,

It is more and more becoming “we” and “others” to many Syrians. It is not “us” anymore. It probably was never “us”. It appears that “us” have had a bloody history dated before the regime and perhaps helped creating the regime as it now stands. I do not claim knowledge about history and I really do not know much about Syrian history of ethnic tension… Our government worked only to reinforce it. Civil society would have changed (we and others) into us but we do not have civil society or its infra-structure. We really are not a civilized society. Again, where do we go from here?

Any answer that calls for the revolutionists to stop revolutioning to allow time for the regime to reform is simply not gonna happen. No one at this time believes the regime can be rehabilitated. Bashar lost his golden opportunity. That is why I called him a failure. Assad’ initial reaction was (dare I say it) “stupidity in action”. Not holding cousin Atef accountable to pulling children fingernails and then killing some protesters is really stupidity in action… Expecting Assad to miraculously resign is also pretty far-fetched. Wiping out Hama then Jisr then Homs. then XYZ…is genocide.

The fact of the matter is that we are terrified by you and you are terrified by us and ومازال القتل مستمرا

June 6th, 2011, 10:36 pm

 

syau said:

Majedkhaldoon,

“they deserve to be killed for that”… Only someone with a sick mind can make such a comment.

I agree with you that there will be many “defections”, but they will be fake defections like the ones revlon has linked.

After the theft of security cars with id’s and stolen uniforms, they will try many fabrications, but they will be exposed as others have been. Syrians are aware, do no doubt that.

June 6th, 2011, 10:37 pm

 

louai said:

The violent of the revolution went out of control ! they managed for long time to keep their killing away of the cameras but after the barbaric public hanging in Hama and the way was filmed on mobile phones i knew that now its too late for them to hid their crimes,
from the very first week they were killing from both sides to feed their thrust for blood and to fuel the bloody revolution’s anger ,I never had any doubt that they are doing the killing of the protesters ,when your supporters are illiterate and full of hat you just cant control them but the main problem was and still is the media converge ,I knew after the public hanging in Hama that the Syrian people will not tolerate this criminals any more but after today i don’t think the government could control the people any more ,the army should strike now those people do not understand any other language ,the good news is, they lost after today any fooled national opposition.

June 6th, 2011, 10:38 pm

 

Sophia said:

Prosternating To Israel: Syrian Muslim Brothers talk to Israeli TV: “Israel exists and it can live in peace”
http://www.mako.co.il/news-world/arab/Article-07dbbcba6f1fd21004.htm

The MB and their Salafi brothers have excelled in prosternation and videotaped beheadings. They fear the mighty and they terrorise the vulnerable.

Link and comment thanks to FLC.
http://friday-lunch-club.blogspot.com/

June 6th, 2011, 10:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

syau:
When a soldier betray the people and help the enemy he no longer should get the protection of his people and yes he deserve death.
That is why Bashar will be hanged ,or shot dead.

June 6th, 2011, 10:44 pm

 

louai said:

When I read SC comments the Zionists and the extremists ones ,I really don’t understand how the extremists and the Zionists are together so openly now, I used to think its part of the conspiracy theory and its only a propaganda ,I never believed it before ! I am not into politics and my knowledge is limited comparing to many of you here , but I thought its obvious for Israel not to trust the extremists! how could they make this mistake? If you are a Muslim and become an extremist, naturally you hate Jews and you want to liberate philistine as it’s a holly land for Muslims as well!. can any one (except Zionists!! ) explain to me how come this happening now and they don’t even try to hid it?
i know that extremists will befriend the devil himself to get red of the Kuffar but don’t Zionists know that as well? for extremists Jews are worse that Kuffar !

June 6th, 2011, 10:44 pm

 

Ss said:

MB is the twin brother of AlQaeda. This organization is terrible. They are the roots of Islamists Terrorism. They are worse than AlQaeda as they are more organized, have many branches, and wide base support among muslims who feel sympathy with them. MB would kill and history is full of proof of crimes commited against civilians to achieve their goal of bringing a conservative radical islamic regime. These peopel wants all women in viel. They are less tolerant to minorities such as drooz, christians, and alawite. This Alqaeda like organization will clean the middle east from christians as they have been stating that in their demonstration “nasara 3ala beirut”. They kill in the name of god. They rape women from minorities in the name of god. They listen to their clerks and what their clerks say they do, allllll in the name of god. They are right all the time, the Islam is sunni because it is the right islam. Half the world population ie india and china are kuffar becaue they are not muslims. All the west are kuffar becaue they are christians.

These people i.e radical, hateful, islamists, terrorists should be eradicated, should be killed, should be destroyed because they represent a danger on humanity. They do not know what love is. There only love is to kill anyone who is against their god. They want all people o convert to Islam so they satisfy their God. They are hateful radicals, fucked up, narrow minded bunch of coward and the I hope the world gets rid of them and their idiology one day so we can see the beautiful sun shining again on our lovely Syria. Syria the land of civilization before these coward came with their radical islamic terrorist ideology.

June 6th, 2011, 10:46 pm

 

syau said:

Tara,

Do you really believe “At this stage of the game, some people will take up arms.”

Arms were taken up from the beginning. This ‘revolution’ was planned with violence being a key factor from day one. That is the only way they can get their international attention and interference in Syria.

June 6th, 2011, 10:47 pm

 

Real Syrian said:

To 351#
Prof.Landis is smart enough to know the truth…..Your free advice to him is worthless …….We are proud to be Pro Syrian people not only pro Syrian government……Anyway days will prove the truth……

June 6th, 2011, 10:48 pm

 

Ss said:

357

Louai,

The MB, Alqaeda, Hamas have the same ideology which is destroying Israel. I do not understand how someone will bring the bear to his grape field?….

June 6th, 2011, 10:52 pm

 

syau said:

Majedkhaldoon,

When you say enemy, who do you mean?

June 6th, 2011, 10:54 pm

 

Ss said:

Majedkhaldoon,

With your comment 356, you are just proven to be a bloody criminal like your peers. It is people like yourself who are the enemy. You without any doubt represents a typical MB mentality that is build oon killing, destruction. Your idiology is hateful and syria as well as syrian people would be better off people like yourself.

June 6th, 2011, 10:59 pm

 

Tara said:

Loui #354

Simply put it: It is called stereotyping. What may sound to you like an extremist might be really your average guy/gal. And what sounds like a zionist might just be a jew who was born in Palestine after 1948 and therefore did not know any other country. Not all jews are zionists and not all revolutionists are extremists.

June 6th, 2011, 11:03 pm

 

Shami said:

The goal now must be the big statues of hafez asad.The statues are a good indicator of such regimes existence,when they are destroyed,it means that the regime reached its end.
The islamophobic christians here ,you have nothing to win by portraying us as criminal barbarians for the sake of maher and bashar mafia as wanted by their sectarian message to you ,your fate is independant than theirs ,no one forced you to leave Syria.
We are eternal as people ,the regimes die.

June 6th, 2011, 11:13 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Syau the enemy is Israel, and those who kill the syrian people are enemy of Syrian people.

SS
Syria is better without you,Further I am not MB, I am libertarian who believe in freedom, and I know that freedom will be earned by blood, and I strongly believe the people should have the right to carry arms to prevent dictatorship.

June 6th, 2011, 11:28 pm

 

Sophia said:

# 361 SS,

“I do not understand how someone will bring the bear to his grape field?….” Because the bear has been tamed. Read my comment # 355.

From time to time the bear has rebellious offsprings (OBL) but even this it can be and has been of great benefit to Israel.

June 6th, 2011, 11:30 pm

 

louai said:

TARA
lets call them revolutionists ,and yes i know Not all jews are zionists some of my friends are jews ,but the jews in here are Zionists for sure .
i still wish to get an explination for all the help the zionsts try to give to ‘the revoutionists’

June 6th, 2011, 11:32 pm

 

syau said:

Majedkhaldoon,

When you say the enemies are those who kill the Syrian people, in your mind, would that include the criminals who are killing innocent people and the Syrian security personnel?

To me, they are the traitors and the fit into the enemy jigsaw puzzle perfectly, not the soldiers who are trying to regain stability in Syria by fighting those you call freedom fighters.

June 6th, 2011, 11:34 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

Syau:
If the security personnel,is not shooting at the syrian people,then whoever shooting at them and killing them would be certainly criminals,those security officers who are peacefull and they protect the syrian people,we must love them and protect them.

June 6th, 2011, 11:43 pm

 

Ss said:

Majedkhaldoon,

Get out of these doors, you describe yourself as “libertarian”. I do not think any libertarian would accept and okay the brutal video that is shown earlier by SYAU, perhaps you are a libertarian MB. These type of libertarian MB exists in the seashores of syria like Lattakia as they learned civilization and how liberal people could be. You are full of contraversies yourself, defending the killing of army men who protected you and your family when you were a kid. On the other hand you yourself support Hassan nasralah who is a big supporter of this regime, which reflects who lost you are. Well you grew up, and now you are a coward, outsider sitting on your desk, typing hateful messages, hijacking liberty and love, critisizing the army that is protecting your family now in syria. I would suggest you bring them here with you so they can speak the same language, the language of libertarian instead of keeping them Syria. I am sure lattakia and syria would be better off people like yourself Mr. Majedkhaldoon

June 6th, 2011, 11:43 pm

 

majedkhaldoon said:

SS:
When the army protect me and my family I love them and get mad if anyone hurt them, but wake up, the army massacred Deraa,Massacred Tel Kalakh,Massacred Rastan and they send battalion to massacre Jisr Al Shoughoor,those committed treason.

June 6th, 2011, 11:54 pm

 

Ss said:

Sophia,

Your commenst under 351 gave me the answer. Amazing, and shocking at the same. I congrat Israel for choosing their dream future neighbours. I am sure they have a lot to share

June 6th, 2011, 11:54 pm

 

democracynow said:

Guess whose side the Palestinians of Yarmouk camp are on?!

من القدس لحوران, شعب واحد ما بينهان
واحد, اتنين, بشار الأسد فين
واحد, اتنين, حزب الله وين

June 6th, 2011, 11:56 pm

 

Amuse-gueules: Syria « the human province said:

[…] final statement from the Syrian opposition conference in […]

June 7th, 2011, 5:30 am

 

873 said:

Straight from the planners’ mouths. Confessions dont get any better than this:

The Jewish power-providers of the Arab Spring revolts
By STEVE LINDE 07/06/2011 jerusalem post

Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg tops ‘The Jerusalem Post’s’ list of the 50 most influential Jews in the world, 2011.

Mark Zuckerberg’s deft denial during an Internet forum in Paris last month that Facebook was not responsible for the Arab Spring protests sweeping across the Middle East was somewhat disingenuous. In almost the same breath, Zuckerberg acknowledged that Facebook had performed a key role in the regional revolts from Tunisia to Egypt, Yemen, Libya and Syria.

On the road to a Zionist One World Gevernment, using their porxy America to fund, arm and diplomatically strong arm it into existance. AIPAC & Sayanim, heres to you:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” —Marcus Tullius Cicero Quotes

June 7th, 2011, 12:44 pm

 

Usama said:

Aboud, #55

Even the Hariri “refugees” from Tal Kalakh, who were so anti-Alawi (they didn’t even bother hide it), said that their men stayed behind to fight with their weapons. Now you want to tell me there was not a single weapon? You’re clearly getting all your updates from the FB page or from your abadhayat friends who feed the FB page with ridiculous garbage.

Aboud, #88

If they let the Russian media in, and then the Russian media begins to report very pro-regime material, are you going to respect it as the full truth? Or are you going to deny it again as a collaborator? Like my father says about people like you: عنزة ولو طارت (It’s a goat, even if it flies!)

I agree 100% with kicking out the media since we already saw how they ignored certain events and exaggerated other events in Damascus, where they had basically free reign in a taxi cab.

Aboud, #105

You seem to be so convinced that the phones of 23 million Syrians are being wiretapped 24/7 (by who?), yet here you are comfortable commenting here “from Homs” where internet tracking can be easily done by one person with home-made software that actively searches for certain keywords.

June 7th, 2011, 2:55 pm

 

hovig said:

al salam 3alayikom wa ra7mat allah wa barakato, hal antom tuoridoun al 7ouriye wal dimokratiye li souriya??

EDITED By Joshua Landis: I have just gotten back from a two day trip where I have been unable to moderate or see SC. Please, please do not insult each other or use foul language. I know how hard it is not to be angry with one another in such a time of national division. But you must control it on Syria Comment. Please resist the temptation to insult and stick to arguments that bring new content or ideas to Syria Comment. Persuasion is better than invective.

Thanks Joshua

June 7th, 2011, 6:31 pm

 

Abughassan said:

I read the comments about why the army was attacked and I understand the anger among many Syrians who oppose the regime or security forces. Many Syrians were killed unjustly on both sides but you have to ask yourself who is going to defend you and keep your town secure if you are going to give excuses to those who executed and mutilated army and security officers,I do not think armed thugs should be in charge of security regardless of how we feel about the regime. The criminal acts in al-jisr are inexcusable and I am in full support of securing that town and arresting anybody who has weapons and shooting back at anybody who shoots at the army. This is the time to leave emotions aside and look at Syria’s highest interests: security and order. Killing innocent unarmed Syrians is bad enough but killing army officers is worse,period.

June 7th, 2011, 10:32 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Impressing video about Daraa. It shows how security has been shoting at boys, young men and old men, randomly and when they were peacefully demonstrating.

Warning: this is the hardest video I have ever seen with a boy (maybe 14 years or so) losing brain mass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01B6wPi7dHU&feature=related

After watching this video I have no words, even of hate. I just have a feeling.

June 8th, 2011, 3:13 pm

 

Syrian Commando said:

ALL OF MY COMMENTS AND ANY RELATED TO ME WERE JUST DELETED!!! I explained why that video does not constitute solid proof that the security forces fired and how it’s quite likely that it was in fact the insurrectionists as per the Bandar-Hariri plan:

http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=en/Article/view/86507

I am done here, catch me on twitter, syriancommando.

June 8th, 2011, 4:23 pm

 

SF94123 said:

Below is an honest assessment (without any exaggeration) from a friend who just returned to the U.S. He spent 40 days mainly in the coastal region..

1- There is no revolution in Syria instead it is a highly organized uprising led by MB.

2- The MBs are well equipped, financed and influenced by foreign entities (weapons, computer, communication devices and etc.)

3- Many foreign militants from Jordan , SA and Egypt were captured by the Syrian people and army

4- The objective of the uprising is to topple the regime. Period… Forget about democracy.

5- The majority of the Sunni will not accept an Alawit regime anymore- It is out in the open.

6- Sectarian tension is vey very high. People are boycotting merchants based on their religious affiliation

7- Sadly “Christian to Beirut and Alawit to Taboot “ was written on walls in few of Syrian’s cities.

8- Small business owners will suffer tremendously – restaurants are closing very early (4-5 pm) and hotels are mostly empty.

9- Majority think that the government will not collapse economically and Syrians will survive the hardship

10- People are scared – Overall people in Syria think that the government will prevail.

June 9th, 2011, 9:28 pm

 

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Peter said:

How about this for stpeulacion with out even a shred of evidence.Russia is playing a double game, selling out its Arab “friends”.I can’t put my finger on it, but there is a nagging suspicion in there.

February 18th, 2012, 7:57 pm

 

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