“The Struggle for Abu Kamal: Peace after Defeating the Dictator’s Forces,” by Asaad al-Saleh

The Struggle for Abu Kamal: Peace after Defeating the Dictator’s Forces
Asaad al-Saleh, an Assist. Prof. at the University of Utah.

Located on the bank of the Euphrates near the borders with Iraq, Abu Kamal, the city and its towns, has been an active participant in the revolution. The first significant demonstration was as early as 22 April 2011.  This YouTube video shows people chanting with slogans intended as an affront to the regime. Shoes are thrown on a concrete portrait of Hafez al-Assad, as demonstrators gather in the center of the city. In the early stage of the uprising, repeated news of the demonstrations in Abu Kamal and other Syrian cities began to embarrass the regime’s media, particularly when Aljazeera and Alarabiya began to cover the protest in this traditionally neglected area. At that point, the government pretended that there was only a “crisis,” rather than a full-blown revolution, and people were not protesting against al-Assad’s rule. Abu Kamal, just like other restive areas, was slightly covered by the Syrian news agency, SANA.

Eventually, the army was sent to the city to quell the increasing protest. After initially cheering for the soldiers, hoping that the soldiers would either restrain from targeting civilians or, even better, defect, the residents of Abu Kamal gradually showed resistance to the presence of the army in their area. The last army stationed in Abu Kamal was the colonial French force. Yet, this foreign force was kicked out of Abu Kamal after a feud with the Uqaidat tribe that caused the death of French soldiers and, in retaliation, the chief of the tribe.

When both the rebels and the regime’s forces were fighting inside the city, the latter were overwhelmed by fighters who knew how to maneuver inside the area. The rebels destroyed many of the army’s vehicles and forced the soldiers to take shelter outside but still close to the city. For more than ten months, the regime was continuously shooting at commercial and residential areas, forcing almost all residents to leave the city and move either to the towns or to cross the borders to Iraq as refugees.

The regime’s last resort (to achieve almost nothing beyond destruction) was to use its air force to shell the city and some of the towns. One of the towns that were targeted by the military jets was al-Jalaa, the birthplace of the defected Syrian ambassador to Iraq and one of the Ugaidat’s leading figures, Nawaf al-Fares. Raids were launched almost daily from September 2012, mounting to 70 raids by 14 November, according to the official Facebook page representing the Local Coordination in Abu Kamal. The regime used heavy artillery against civilians and more than 1,000 mortars landed in the city. The bases for these attacks were the security headquarters and the only airport in the city, Hamdan airport. The rebels attempted to take over the heavily secured airport in early September of 2012, but were unsuccessful and some of them fell in the assault. Since then, they were preparing themselves to capture the airport and to terminate this center of regime’s power and destruction.

On 8 November 2012, the regime’s security headquarters, called the “security square” by the rebels, became under siege. This fortified area included the public hospital, where snipers were located, the military recruiting center, and the military intelligence building. Two days later, air raids showered the city to prevent the besieging rebels from taking over these bases. These raids left 16 people dead, five of them were women. On Thursday 15 November 2012, the rebels finally liberated the security square and downed a helicopter; but lost three fighters in the operation. The next and last important target was the Hamdan airport, which fell in their hands on Saturday 17 November. The regime’s soldiers and officers in the airport fled into the dessert, leaving behind them the last base of the regime in Abu Kamal. Freeing the airport was the bloodiest encounter for rebels, who lost 15 men. The casualties were from Abu Kamal and the towns’ participants, and one of the fallen heroes was from the town of al-Salhiya and is a relative to the author. Since then, peace returned to Abu Kamal and the regime did not (maybe could not) attack it again.

The advantages of liberating the airport and removing the regime’s forces from Abu Kamal are many but here are the most important ones. Since the fall of the airport, Abu Kamal did not witness any more air strikes, a situation that saved many lives and will allow more fighters to regroup and move to the other few areas under the control of the regime in Dayr al-Zour. Many of Abu Kamal’s fighters have appeared on videos addressing al-Assad by this warning: “Do not leave, we will come to you in Damascus.” This might be a serious threat if rebels across the country free their areas and start moving to the capital.  Additionally, according to Professor Juan Cole in his blog Informed Comment, there is an economic factor that should be noted when considering the liberation of Abu Kamal:

“70% of the goods coming into Syria were coming from the Iraq of PM Nouri al-Maliki, who had refused to join a blockade of Syria because of his new alliance with Iran. But al-Maliki’s attitude is irrelevant if the revolutionaries have Abu Kamal. This development is a nightmare for the Shiite-dominated government of Iraq, since it is fighting a low-intensity struggle with its Sunnis, who predominant in the areas abutting Syria. If Sunni fundamentalists in the FSA hook up with their Iraqi counterparts, that is trouble for al-Maliki and Iran. And, Iraqi Sunnis can now more freely export arms and goods to their Syrian co-religionists.”(Juan Cole).

Even though “70% of the goods” may be too good to be true—as the eastern Syrian region and its borders with Iraq have been out of government’s control since last year—any future trade with Iraq before the fall of al-Assad would be hard to imagine when this area is controlled by the revolutionaries. Professor Cole’s allusion to the Shia/Sunni binary can be seen within the context of Westerners magnifying these sectarian divisions when, at least in the completely Sunni Abu Kamal, people still emphasize that the fight is against al-Assad not his sect. More to the point, there were no reliable reports that Sunni Iraqi fighters assisted the FSA fighters in Abu Kamal.

The peace that Abu Kamal enjoys now is due to the operations that liberated it from the regime’s military and security presence, particularly after its airport was neutralized. If there is one lesson to be learned from liberating Abu Kamal, it is that a no-fly zone is urgently needed. Such a no-fly zone will save many lives and this will mean that the regime cannot kill more civilians and that the FSA, from all over Syrian cities and towns, will continue to remove al-Assad from Damascus.

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News Round Up Follows

To Retrieve Attack Helicopters from Russia, Syria Asks Iraq for Help, Documents Show
Pro publica, by Michael Grabell, Dafna Linzer, and Jeff Larson, Nov. 29, 2012

In late October, Syria asked Iraqi authorities to grant air access for a cargo plane transporting refurbished attack helicopters from Russia, according to flight records obtained by ProPublica. With Turkish and European airspace off limits to Syrian arms shipments, the regime of Bashar al-Assad needs Iraq’s air corridor to get the helicopters home, where the government is struggling to suppress an uprisingIraq regained control of its airspace from the U.S. military just a year ago and has been under intense diplomatic pressure from the United States to isolate the Syrian regime. Turkey says it has closed its airspace to Syrian flights, and if Iraq did so, Syria would be virtually cut off from transporting military equipment by plane. European Union sanctions have already constricted arms transport by sea and air.

But it is unclear whether Iraq permitted the fly-overs described in the documents. The Syrian cargo plane scheduled to pick up the helicopters did not land or take off from Moscow at the appointed times this month, suggesting that those flights did not happen…..

Syria’s Internet shutdown leaves information void, may signal escalating war – Wash Post

….Omar Abu Laila, a spokesman for the rebel fighters in the eastern city of Deir al-Zour, said communications have been down for so long there that the new disruptions will have no impact. “The communication outage did not affect us,” he said. “You should report that we’re happy the rest of Syria joined us.”

Lakhdar Brahimi on Charlie Rose Show

I hope — I hope we don’t get there because military intervention is an — at best, at very best, a very, very risky thing.  You don’t want an Iraq, an intervention like Iraq.  You don’t want the intervention ala Afghanistan.  You don’t want an intervention ala Libya.  And I think — I really think you don’t need that because in the present circumstances, you will have that outside of the Security Council because you are not going to have a resolution that will allow military intervention.  That’s out of the question for the moment.  So you’ll have to do it from outside.  If you do it from outside, you’ll have a lot of opposition to hit from day one.  And it is — I mean, look, Libya is 6 million people.  They had no army, practically.  And you see the amount of destruction that has taken place.  You see how long it took, and you see the results.  So people — you know, a lot of people in Syria are saying, “Why not Libya?”  And they are wondering why the Americans and others don’t want to repeat.  But the Americans say, “No, you know, Libya was not a good experience for us.  We don’t want to repeat –”

-Damascus clashes cut off airport, Emirates suspends flights
By Oliver Holmes, 29 November 2012, Reuters News
* Fighting along airport road heaviest during crisis
* Internet down in Damascus, phone lines disrupted
* Rebels advancing but “not last days yet” for Assad

BEIRUT, Nov 29 (Reuters) – Syrian rebels battled forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad just outside Damascus on Thursday, forcing the closure of the main airport road, and the Dubai-based Emirates airline suspended flights to the Syrian capital.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that fighting along the road to the airport, southeast of Damascus, was heavier in that area that at any other time in the 20-month-old uprising against Assad.
“As of 20 minutes ago, there was heavy fighting along all the areas along the road,” the British-based Observatory’s director Rami Abdelrahman told Reuters by telephone. He said clashes were particularly intense in Babbila, a southern suburb bordering the insurgent stronghold of Tadamon.

Residents said Internet connections in the capital went down in the early afternoon and mobile and land telephone lines were only working intermittently, in what they said was the worst disruption to communication since conflict erupted last year.

Emirates said it was suspending daily flights to Damascus “until further notice”, but other airlines continued operations. Airport sources in Cairo said an Egypt Air flight that left at 1:30 pm (1130 GMT) had landed in Damascus as scheduled.
“The Egypt Air plane has arrived … and passengers are all safe but the pilot was instructed to take off back to Cairo without passengers if he felt that the situation there is not good to stay for longer,” an official at Cairo airport said.
Elsewhere in the capital, warplanes bombed Kafr Souseh and Daraya, two neighbourhoods that fringe the centre of the city where rebels have managed to hide out and ambush army units, opposition activists said.

“NOT LAST DAYS YET”
The past two weeks have seen military gains by rebels who have stormed and taken army bases across Syria, exposing Assad’s loss of control in northern and eastern regions despite the devastating air power which he has used to bombard opposition strongholds.

A senior European Union official said that Assad appeared to be preparing for a military showdown around Damascus, possibly by isolating the city with a network of checkpoints.
“The rebels are gaining ground but it is still rather slow. We are not witnessing the last days yet,” the official said on condition of anonymity.

“On the outskirts of Damascus, there are mortars and more attacks. The regime is thinking of protecting itself … with checkpoints in the next few days … (It) seems the regime is preparing for major battle on Damascus.”

In the north of the country, rebel units launched an offensive to seize an army base close to the main north-south highway that would allow them to block troop movements and cut Assad’s main supply route to Aleppo, Syria’s biggest city.
The Observatory’s Abdelrahman said that rebel units from around Idlib province massed early on Thursday morning to attack Wadi al-Deif, a large base east of the rebel-held town of Maarat al-Numan.

Wadi al-Deif has been a thorn in the side of rebel units who first besieged the station in October but have met fierce resistance from government forces, backed up by air strikes.

If Wadi al-Deif fell to rebels, who already control northern border crossings to Turkey, Assad would be dependent on a single land route – from the Mediterranean port of Latakia – to supply his forces fighting to win back Aleppo.
Assad is fighting an insurgency that grew out of peaceful protests 20 months ago and has escalated, after a crackdown, into a civil war in which 40,000 people have been killed.

Most foreign powers have condemned Assad but have said they will stop short of providing arms to rebel fighters as they fear heavy weapons could make their way into the hands of radical Islamist units, who have grown increasingly prominent.
(Additional reporting by Dominic Evans and Erika Solomon in Beirut; Yasmine Saleh in Cairo, Praveen Menon in Dubai and Justyna Pawlak in Brussels; Editing by Mark Heinrich

the New York Times reports that Washington is considering a range of options to speed the departure of embattled President Bashar al-Assad. According to an anonymous administration official, several alternatives are under consideration, including directly arming rebels, deploying CIA operatives on the ground, and stationing surface-to-air missiles in Turkey. All these options have been discussed before, but according to the unnamed source quoted by the Times, rebel military success “has given this debate a new urgency, and a new focus.”

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101. Visitor said:

MejedJhaldoun’s e-mail may have something real behind it.

Read this,

 
عندما سُئلت السيدة الفرنسية زوجة أحد الاقتصاديين السوريين بعد تخليها مع زوجها وأولادها الثلاثة عن منزلهم الفخم في شارع أبو رمانة في قلب العاصمة وانتقالهم الى منزلهم الثاني في منطقة الاشرفية في بيروت عن سبب هذه الخطوة التي كانت هذه العائلة رفضت القيام بها منذ عشرين شهراً من الحرب التدميرية القاسية التي يشنها نظام بشار الاسد على السوريين، أجابت: “لقد بدأت معركة تحرير دمشق”.

لم يكن التأكيد على “بدء هذه المعركة حكراً على تلك السيدة التي كانت مع زوجها من المؤيدين الاقوياء للاسد وعائلته”، لأنه كان “صديقاً للمسيحيين” في سورية حسب قولها، وإنما ورد خلال الايام القليلة الماضية على ألسنة العشرات من القادة الميدانيين في “الجيش السوري الحر” والقوى الثورية التي كشفت ل”السياسة”، أمس، عن أن الحشود العسكرية الثورية المقاتلة التي باتت تنتشر في مختلف مفاصل العاصمة واريافها وقرب مطاريها المدني والعسكري بعد احتلال المطار الثالث الاكثر اهمية للنظام، “فاق تعدادها العشرين ألف مقاتل من ضباط وجنود ومتطوعين وأنصار الثورة من الخارج”، فيما تتوقع القيادة العسكرية المشتركة في دمشق ان يرتفع هذا العدد مع نهاية الشهر الجاري الى ال35 ألفاً بانضمام عشرات الوحدات المسلحة من بعض المحافظات الجنوبية في درعا والجولان والحدود الاردنية والشرقية من دير الزور والقامشلي.

Who is this French lady, wife of Syrian economist, who just left her Abu Rummana luxury home?

Is this where Ali Baba getting his tips from? Is he and his hoologan dad on their way to the Canadian embassy in Beirut?

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November 30th, 2012, 6:21 pm

 

102. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

100. majedkhaldounsaid:

I just received this E-Mail,I did not verify it
هام هام هام وصلنا منذ قليل نبأ هام
اختفاء المجرم بشار حافظ الاسد منذ ساعات
الخائن الاسد اختفى منذ ساعات وكذلك زوجته وأولادهولهذا قطعوا كل وسائل الاتصال والمواصلات لاسيما طريق مطار دمشق حيث كان متجها سرا مع عائلته ؟؟
وكتائبه وشبيحته يستسلمون للجيش الحر بالمئات ومنهم من فرّ ومنهم من قتل وجثثهم مرمية بشوارع دمشق ووسائل الاعلام السوري متخبطة وأجبرت على التستر على النبأ حتى يتسنى لمن بقي من ضبا

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We know he is in an extraordinary secret meeting with his top army generals. Hopefully, bravery is on the discussion table.

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November 30th, 2012, 6:22 pm

 

103. Aldendeshe said:

كزب كزب كزب يامخلوع ويامعتوه صدق وصلنا منذ قليل نبأ هام
اختفاء المجرم بشار حافظ الاسد منذ ساعات
الخائن الاسد اختفى منذ ساعات وكذلك زوجته وأولادهولهذا قطعوا كل وسائل الاتصال والمواصلات لاسيما طريق مطار دمشق حيث كان متجها سرا مع عائلته ؟؟

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November 30th, 2012, 6:31 pm

 

104. Visitor said:

SNP @102,

You are betting your money on a mule!!!

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November 30th, 2012, 6:32 pm

 

105. Aldendeshe said:

104. Visitorsaid:

SNP @102,

You are betting your money on a mule!!!
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No we are betting our money and Syria future (getting the needed Cash) on the real Al Qaida brave men, not Al Ciada drug runners, nor Qatar Al Mossaida Scientist Bombers, betting on real Moslem Jihadis who like to get rid of the Gulf Clowns, Zionist stooges and establish a real Islamic Ummah State with 200,000,000 standing army. Even Iran, will be converted to SUNNI Islam. There will be no more coward sects in Islam, just brave Sunni’s.

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November 30th, 2012, 6:39 pm

 

106. Visitor said:

SNP @105,

بس يا دندشي البغل لازم اول شي يدخل الزريبي ما هيك؟

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November 30th, 2012, 6:55 pm

 

107. Hasan said:

Great article! describes all the revolutionary process in Abu Kamal and the political analysis in addition to highlighting the success of the free army
Congratulations to free Abu Kamal!

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November 30th, 2012, 6:58 pm

 

108. zoo said:

The war-mongering in this blog are furious that a peaceful solution could be found that will spare lives… No.. They want the blood of Bashar al Assad and the Alawi heretics. They want to win their destructive and monstrous “revolution” at any cost.

I hope that the West has still some conscience to stop these mad and sick Qataris and Sunnis Lebanese from encouraging the killing of Syrians to satisfy their pathetic ego.
After two years these morons have not been able to build a credible alternative to the regime. In Libya it took 3 months. It is clear that they are dumb, inefficient and dangerous. They will be stopped or the world got mad.

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November 30th, 2012, 7:04 pm

 

109. zoo said:

After a peaceful revolution in Tunisia, now the failed Moslem Brotherhood government is using the army to quell the uprising.

Tunisian leader fears that clashes could spread
By BOUAZZA BEN BOUAZZA | Associated Press – 1 hr 9 mins ago

http://news.yahoo.com/tunisian-leader-fears-clashes-could-spread-210231844.html

TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) — The army moved into a southwestern Tunisian town, an official and witnesses said Friday, the fourth day of protests that have injured more than 300 people.

President Moncef Marzouki said on television that the North African country’s government has not “met the expectations of the people” and asked that a new one, smaller and specialized to deal with the unrest, be formed. The current government has about 80 members.

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November 30th, 2012, 7:18 pm

 

110. ghufran said:

خرجت تظاهرات في بعض مناطق سوريا اليوم الجمعة تطالب بـ”تطهير الجيش الحر” و”الثورة”، في اول انتقادات بهذا الوضوح من متظاهرين للجيش الحر الذي يقاتل ضد النظام ويؤخذ عليه انتهاكات ضد المدنيين.
ووجه الناشطون اليوم الدعوة عبر صفحات “فيسبوك” للتظاهر ضد النظام تحت شعار “ريف دمشق: اصابع النصر فوق القصر”، في اشارة الى معارك ريف دمشق الضارية المتواصلة منذ اسابيع والتي ينظر اليها المعارضون على انها مدخل الى العاصمة، وبالتالي الى القصر الرئاسي حيث بشار الاسد.
وهتفت تظاهرة في حي الشعار في مدينة حلب ، بحسب ما ظهر في شريط فيديو نشر على موقع “يوتيوب بدنا الجيش الاسلامي، الجيش الحر حرامي” و”الجيش الحر يلا عالجبهة”، في اشارة واضحة الى وجوب التزام عناصر الجيش الحر بالقتال على الجبهة ضد الجيش النظامي، وليس القيام بانتهاكات ضد المدنيين كما تفيد بعض التقارير.
وهتفت تظاهرة اخرى “الشعب يريد اصلاح الجيش الحر”.
ويروي سكان من مدينة حلب، بحسب ما يفيد مراسل وكالة “فرانس برس”، ان “المقاتلين المعارضين الموجودين في المدينة غالبا ما يبتزون الناس، او يقومون بعمليات خطف مقابل فديات، او يفرضون خوات على اصحاب المؤسسات”.
وفي عندان في ريف حلب، حمل متظاهرون، بحسب شريط فيديو آخر، لافتة كتب عليها “سنزيل بصمات العار عن جبين الثورة”، بينما هتف المشاركون “الشعب يريد تطهير الثورة”.
وعلق المصور بصوته: “مظاهرة في عندان تطالب بتطهير الجيش الحر وقيادات الثورة، وباخراج الشبيحة الذين انخرطوا في قيادات الثورة”، بينما كان المتظاهرون يصرخون: “حر حر حراميه، اسقاط الحراميه”.
did thousands of Syrians die to replace Assad thugs with new thugs?

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November 30th, 2012, 7:28 pm

 

111. zoo said:

#109 Ghufran

The desintegration of the FSA is looming, increasingly infected by thugs, criminals, opportunists and islamists.

Months ago I warned that if the FSA does not prevent and fight the infiltration of these viruses in their ranks, it’ll be contaminated. Now it is seriously contaminated, beyond repair.

Syria has become a magnet for islamists adventurers and criminals and they know that they are welcomed by the FSA to help the war against the “heretics” ruling this country.

The FSA has totally lost its credibility among Syrians and the international community. Disunited, leaderless, polluted, the FSA’s demise, like the SNC that fell into the same trap, is unraveling under our eyes.
After a period of hope that the FSA would discipline itself and be respected to the point that the Syrian army would massively defect and the Syrian would rally to them, the international community is again focusing on a political settlement.
A new season is starting…

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November 30th, 2012, 7:55 pm

 

112. Sheila said:

Dear Ali,
You claim you are Alawi, yet you talk like a Christian, so what is it?
Regarding your uncertainty about the mystery panic state in the presidential palace, let me assure you that it is the latter, since many high ranking Alawi officers have been in contact with the CIA plotting to overthrow Bashar from within. This is old news.
I am surprised at your sectarian tone. It is sad to see how people can completely delude themselves into believing fairy tails. Wake up and smell the gun powder. The FSA is advancing rapidly. This regime’s days are numbered.
After watching the video yesterday from Halab, I want more than ever to see the bastard-in-chief Bashar dragged in the streets of Damascus for all of us to watch. At the same time, I want no innocent Alawi or otherwise to be harmed.

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November 30th, 2012, 7:58 pm

 

113. Visitor said:

The last thing محمد سعيد الصحاف told us before he went into oblivion was that the Americans were committing suicide by the thousands around Baghdad.

محمد سعيد الصحاف now reappeared in a Goofy Zoo to tell us that the FSA is doing the same around Damascus.

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November 30th, 2012, 8:28 pm

 

114. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

Now you can be sure the Israeli mercenaries took a heavy beating this week, just read the last dozen cheap disinformation comments from the paid Alciada posters here, they are all in sync on new campaign. Strange they never discuss the slaughtering of something like 3000 mercenaries in one town alone few days ago. Are you in panic now? Don’t you have 30k more that wanted to be slaughtered? Send them over. Next…

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November 30th, 2012, 8:35 pm

 

115. Ghufran said:

افاد مراسل “السفير” في طرابلس أن مجموعة تضم 30 شابا اسلاميا خرجت من الشمال باتجاه الأراضي السورية للقتال الى جانب المعارضة السورية المسلحة، قبل أن تتعرض لكمين من قبل القوات السورية النظامية في أحد منازل بلدة تل كلخ الحدودية، ما أدى الى مقتل 22 شابا، بينهم 21 لبنانيا بالاضافة الى شاب فلسطيني
There is an unlimited supply of Islamists who may not listen to any future Syrian governmen but will follow the fatwas of their sheikhs who can only prosper when there is conflict and violence.

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November 30th, 2012, 8:36 pm

 

116. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

“JEWS HAVE BOUGHT OUR COUNTRY!” is the chief rallying cry of the Nationalist “Jobbik” Party of Hungary.

As Hungary’s third-largest party holding 44 of 386 seats in parliament, Jobbik—Movement for a Better Hungary—describes itself as a “patriotic Christian party whose purpose is the protection of Hungarian values and interests.”

Closely allied with Jobbik is the “Magyar Garda” or Hungarian Guard, a growing militia and paramilitary group dedicated to “rescuing” and “arming” Hungarians in order to “challenge” the state’s monopoly of force.

With Christian rhetoric such as, “Jews have desecrated our national symbols,”

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Now you know where the trillions stolen from the Pentagon and gold from Nova Scotia World reserve vault is hidden.

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November 30th, 2012, 8:40 pm

 

117. Aldendeshe said:

@GHUFRAN,
We are counting on that supply line to never dry. Will need them to extract the 600+ billions from the Gulf Zionist puppets emirs, or be replaced by real Moslem Emirs that is not on Israel best friend list. Couple will need that $4.80 and 2 empty soda cans to take south with them, just in case the emir check bounced.

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November 30th, 2012, 8:49 pm

 

118. Johannes de Silentio said:

113. Syrian Nationalist Party:

“cheap disinformation from paid fhe Alciada posters here”

Geez, if I didn’t know better, I’d say you were in lockstep with Spammie Annie. But you’re not that deep, are you, Nattie?

And by the way, it’s “al Qaeda” not “Alciada.” If you’re going to diss somebody, at least get the spelling right.

Just so you know, I’m not a paid al Qaeda poster. But Zoo, Citizen, Vatty, Tara and Aldendeshe are. I saw them whispering around a table in a bar in the Bab Touma district and when they saw me coming, they clammed up. They were OBVIOUSLY plotting something sinister. Also, they were counting money. It must have been the money from their al Qaeda paymaster.

I hope this helps you in your laudable effort to save Syria from the International Islamist/Jew Conspiracy…

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November 30th, 2012, 9:01 pm

 

119. Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:

99. Sandro Loewe said “Hariri should sell FSA a mininuclear bomb to be exploded in Al Qardaha soon. Another one in Al Malki quarter. Take a tour in Aleppo and check the damage generated by Assad Forces.”

Congratulations, you caught up with Chemical Ali and the Syrian Nazi Party member. Absolutely disgusting. The horrific suffering of the people of Aleppo can never justify such sick calls for mass murder, and it is this kind of hatred and disregard for human life that displeases God, delays victory and prolongs suffering.

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November 30th, 2012, 9:03 pm

 

120. MarigoldRan said:

The Sunni logic is this:

Assad bombed our cities and killed our children when we protested. We suffered. Fine. Therefore, we’re going to make DAMN sure that Assad and his regime supporters suffer too.

Blood for blood.
Destruction for destruction.
Death for death.

You regime supporters started it. But we will end it.

So to all you regime supporters: SHUT IT. It’s too late to complain about the destruction. You should have thought about this BEFORE you started the war.

The regime did not show pity when it was strong. Why should its enemies show pity to it now that it’s weak?

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November 30th, 2012, 9:10 pm

 

121. Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:

99. Sandro Loewe said: “Hariri should sell FSA a mininuclear bomb to be exploded in Al Qardaha soon. Another one in Al Malki quarter. Take a tour in Aleppo and check the damage generated by Assad Forces.”

Congratulations, you caught up with Chemical Ali and the Syrian Nazi Party member. Absolutely disgusting. How can you use the horrific suffering of the people of Aleppo to justify such sick calls for mass murder?

119. MARIGOLDRAN said: “The Sunni logic is this: … Blood for blood.
Destruction for destruction. Death for death.”

And disbelief for disbelief. That’s not Sunni logic, one cannot repay injustice with injustice in Islam. One cannot retaliate with disregard for the Sacred Law.

To you both, it is this kind of hatred and disregard for human life that displeases and angers God, delays victory against the tyranny and prolongs the peoples’ suffering.

La hawla wa la quwata illa billah

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November 30th, 2012, 9:21 pm

 

122. MarigoldRan said:

The regime’s supporters must be taught a lesson that they never forget. THAT would be justice.

The severity of that lesson will depend on interpretation. There are many members of the FSA who believe in a very severe interpretation.

Personally? My personal opinion? I say it’s time to end the war after Assad and his family is dead or exiled. I agree with you. Eternal vengeance has no end. But many will not agree with me.

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November 30th, 2012, 9:25 pm

 

123. Aldendeshe said:

I hope this helps you in your laudable effort to save Syria from the International Islamist/Jew Conspiracy…
__________________________________________________________________

No, just International Jewish one, Islamist not really in this, they are waiting the finish line, the one you see being slaughtered by the 1000′s by Assad forces are the drugged fake ones trained by Alciada, some have real names like Ehud Cohen, but with Qatari or Lebanese id stating Mohammad Abdul Al Althani Aldajjal. 17 of these faked ideed ones were EXTERMINATED in Tel Kalakh last night.

Here is Henry Ford, now you would not call this guy lunatic conspiracy freak would you? Oh Hell you would, they even called MIT doctorates in physics and chemistries who stated the tower were blown up as such.

http://americannaziparty.com/about/InternationalJew.pdf

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November 30th, 2012, 9:27 pm

 

124. Johannes de Silentio said:

121. Aldendeshe

“drugged fake ones trained by Alciada”

So you admit to being a paid al Qaeda poster, eh? Well well well.

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November 30th, 2012, 9:59 pm

 

125. Ghufran said:

It is a testimony about the destructive and exclusionary nature of this rebellion when moderate and educated Syrians ,who oppose the regime and want a modern political system in Syria , have little or no influence over the street and the opposition today. The rebels may need, due to their number, prevail in most of Syria but they will NOT win the support of millions of Syrians who refuse to be ruled by thugs in beards as much as they resented being ruled by thugs with Baathist masks. None of you presented a vision for the future that can stand the challenges of the 21st century, most of what I hear is calls for revenge and orgasmic cheers when the ” enemy” drinks from the fatal wine Syria abundantly produces today, I will wait and see how your heros will fix the country when much of what is left is destroyed buildings and shattered lives, saying that the ” regime started it” is not good enough,you are kidding nobody but yourselves.

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November 30th, 2012, 10:10 pm

 

126. MarigoldRan said:

Syria’s got a lot of problems. No one can argue against that. But none of these problems can be fixed until the regime is finished.

The longer the regime and its supporters continue to fight, the worse it will be for them and for everyone else. The West and the FSA will not negotiate until Assad and his family is gone, along with most of his friends and cronies.

This is something that regime supporters, Russia, and Iran do not realize. The healing cannot even begin until most of the regime is finished.

And any complaints about the destruction the FSA is doing to the country is pure horse-manure. The regime is doing most of the destruction, so put the blame where it belongs.

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November 30th, 2012, 10:20 pm

 

127. Ghufran said:

أكدت هيئة التنسيق السورية المعارضة  بعد لقاء وفد منها وزير الخارجية الروسية سيرغي لافروف في موسكو انها  “تطابق موقفها مع روسيا حول ضرورة الاسراع في التوصل لحل سياسي في سوريا يقوم على أساس ورقة جنيف ومبادرة الموفد الدولي الاخضر الإبراهيمي”.
وأوضح الوفد أن “العنف الدائر في سوريا سوف يقود الى إضعاف الدولة وتحويلها الى دولة فاشلة، وهذا أمر يصب في مصلحة الكيان الاسرائيلي”.
كما شدد على ضرورة العمل المشترك لوقف ضخ السلاح عبر الحدود، مؤكداً على  “رفض كل أشكال التدخل الأجنبي”.
وأعلن حسن عبد العظيم المنسق العام لهيئة التنسيق الوطنية السورية أن “الهيئة تصر على توقف إراقة الدماء،  موضحاً “إن وفد الهيئة سيطرح وجهة نظره فيما يتعلق بسبل إيقاف العنف والاقتتال في سورية، وما يجب أن يتخذه اللاعبون الخارجيون من خطوات بهدف وقف العنف”.
واضاف   “ان المعارضة معنية بنجاح مهمة المندوب الأممي والعربي الأخضر الابراهيمي”
لافتاً   انه “يجب على اللاعبين الخارجيين تسوية التناقضات بينهم والبدء في تنفيذ بيان جنيف، وذلك بهدف إيقاف العمليات المسلحة في سوريا”. (ن.ع)

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November 30th, 2012, 10:21 pm

 

128. Observer said:

I quote ZOO here
“The war-mongering in this blog are furious that a peaceful solution could be found that will spare lives… No.. They want the blood of Bashar al Assad and the Alawi heretics. They want to win their destructive and monstrous “revolution” at any cost.

I hope that the West has still some conscience to stop these mad and sick Qataris and Sunnis Lebanese from encouraging the killing of Syrians to satisfy their pathetic ego.
After two years these morons have not been able to build a credible alternative to the regime. In Libya it took 3 months. It is clear that they are dumb, inefficient and dangerous. They will be stopped or the world got mad.”

Where were you when the regime was about to “finish” the rebellion and fighting tooth and nail against any intervention from the evil West? Now you want intervention? You must be desperate. Why don’t you ask for the Russian Federation to send troops to Syria? Or Iran Guards and HA fighters?

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November 30th, 2012, 10:24 pm

 

129. MarigoldRan said:

@Ghurfan

Almost everyone agrees a political solution must be found. Your quote is typical diplomatic-speak. No where is there talk of Assad in that communique, which is why that communique is worthless.

Furthermore, the opposition outside of the country is much more willing to negotiate than the opposition INSIDE the country.

Any diplomatic note on Syria that does not mention the issue of Assad is worthless. Ignore them. Not worth the paper it’s printed on.

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November 30th, 2012, 10:43 pm

 

130. Ghufran said:

It was difficult to get information from Syria today but it looks more likely than not that the regime is on the offense in Ghoutah and around Damascus,it is also almost certain that the government turned off those routers that allow Internet in Syria, many are now fearful that this was done in preparation for a large scale violent campaign after the government lost many positions in the north and the east. I find it absolutely amazing that many of you are still denying the fact that most of Syria’s friends and enemies alike want this war to continue, sending jihadists with weapons on one hand and allowing this regime to bomb Syrian cities on the other hand is nothing but a criminal behavior, Syrian lives are not worth much nowadays.

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November 30th, 2012, 11:37 pm

 

131. MarigoldRan said:

The rebels do not have to win in Damascus this time. They just have to keep the regime occupied. Most of Assad’s best troops are located there, which means the rebels can make gains elsewhere.

Even if the regime drives the rebels back this time, which is likely, what are they going to do next? The regime could not crush the rebellion in March, and now that it’s weaker and the rebels many times stronger, how do they intend to win now?

No one wants a war like this to continue. But EVERYONE wants to win, and thinks they can do it. The regime hopes to hold on and do enough damage to the country to force the rebels to negotiate. But the rebels will not negotiate with this evil regime, and rightfully so.

In the end, the regime’s strategy is a losing one. They still don’t understand: NO ONE in the opposition will even begin to negotiate until Assad and his family is gone. The regime and its Alawite supporters are a fighting a losing war against a determined and more numerous enemy.

They can postpone the inevitable but they cannot turn the tide. And the longer it goes on, the worse it will be for them.

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November 30th, 2012, 11:44 pm

 

132. zoo said:

#40 Marigoldran

The rebels are winning in areas close to the borders as they count on the support, supplies, hospitals and shelters of their islamist allies in Turkey, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon.
Once they move away from the border areas, they are taking one beating after the other and they end up by withdrawing “tactically”

On the ‘liberated’ areas emptied from civilians, they are at the mercy of the air bombings, therefore they don’t have any real control of these areas as they can’t protect the population and any way most have left to bordering countries.

The rebel militias are clearly outnumbered and disorganized, they stand no chance to move deeper inside Syria, as in addition, the population inside Syria does not help them and seem to reject their destructive presence.
They can only be nuisance…

Call that winning, if you want.

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December 1st, 2012, 1:08 pm

 

133. zoo said:

The FSA and the CNSROF as they stands today have zero chances to be accepted by the majority of the Syrians, should an election or a referendum be held.
After each day that passes, less and less reasonable Syrians would dare to put the fate of their country in such polluted and incompetent hands.

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December 1st, 2012, 1:14 pm

 

134. zoo said:

Syria opposition government nears, Brotherhood flexes muscle
By Khaled Yacoub Oweis

CAIRO | Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:34pm GMT
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/11/29/uk-syria-crisis-opposition-idUKBRE8AS11W20121129

(Reuters) – The Syrian opposition made progress on Thursday toward forming a transitional government at the first meeting of their new coalition in Cairo and the Muslim Brotherhood emerged as an overwhelmingly powerful kingmaker, delegates said.

In a sign of its strength within the leadership of the opposition, the Brotherhood and its allies pushed for the adoption of an internal constitution that allows choosing the prime minister and the cabinet with a simple majority, rather than a two-thirds majority.

Since the coalition was set up in Qatar earlier this month with Gulf and Western support, the Brotherhood has swiftly assembled a de facto majority bloc, according to insiders keeping tabs of changes in the membership of the coalition.

The meeting in a luxury Cairo hotel, now in its second day, was held behind closed doors.

“It looks like the internal constitution will be pushed through without any real discussion. The Brotherhood has Qatar behind it and they are getting what they want,” one delegate said on condition of anonymity.

The formation of a transitional government could encourage greater Western backing for the 20-month revolt against four decades of autocratic rule by Assad and his later father, President Hafez al-Assad.

The bloody repression of an armed Islamist uprising against the elder Assad’s rule in the 1980s killed many thousands of Brotherhood followers, as well as leftists, and forced many Syrians to leave the country.

Membership of the Brotherhood became punishable by death and the movement was decimated, to the point that the Brotherhood announced in 2009 that it was ‘suspending’ opposition to Assad.

The revolt in March last year revived the Brotherhood’s fortunes and opened more sources of financing for the organisation from exiled conservative Syrians.

But independent delegates at the Cairo meeting said the process by which a transitional government is being pushed through does not bode well for a democratic future for Syria.

“The West is sending a signal that it is ready to accept the Brotherhood as the only guarantee of stability other than Assad. It has not learnt from what happened in Egypt. I am afraid Syria will become like Iran, rather than a democracy,” said one of them, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Conspicuously absent from the Cairo discussions was Sheikh Moaz al-Khatib, the coalition’s president, a popular Damascene preacher who is increasingly seen as a religious figurehead who is respected inside Syria and an interlocutor with outside powers, rather than a hands-on leader.

Aware they could quickly lose credibility with rebels and opposition activists inside Syria, the 60 delegates postponed possibly divisive discussions on the final membership of the coalition and began talks on an internal constitution as a first step toward forming a transitional government.

Liaison between the coalition and rebels has been assigned to former Prime Minister Riad Hijab, the highest ranking official to defect since the revolt, coalition sources said.

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December 1st, 2012, 1:23 pm

 

135. zoo said:

Countries that abstain from voting for Palestine in the UN:

Albanie, Andorre, Australie, Bahamas, Barbade, Bosnie, Bulgarie, Cameroun, Colombie, Croatie, République démocratique du Congo, Estonie, Fidji, Allemagne, Guatemala, Haïti, Hongrie, Lettonie, Lithuanie, Malawi, Monaco, Mongolie, Monténégro, Pays-Bas, Papouasie Nouvelle Guinée, Paraguay, Pologne, Corée du Sud, Moldavie, Roumanie, Rwanda, Samoa, Saint Marin, Singapour, Slovaquie, Slovénie, Macédoine, Togo, Tonga, Royaume-Uni, Vanuatu.

Anyone has the list about the Golan restitution request voted at the UN?

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December 1st, 2012, 1:35 pm

 

136. zoo said:

Was it voted at the UN general assembly? Western media are very discreet about it.

UN RENEWS DEMAND THAT ISRAEL COMPLY WITH UNSC RES. 497 ON GOLAN

UN Renews Demand that Israel Rescind Its Decision to Annex Occupied Golan, Comply with UNSC Resolution 497
Nov 16, 2012

Following the passing of the resolution, Syria’s Permanent Representative to the UN Bashar al-Jafari offered, in a statement, thanks to the delegations which voted in favor of the resolution, calling on the countries which abstained from voting to reconsider their stance before the resolution is to be adopted by the UN General Assembly.

“161 countries voted in favor of the draft resolution. 35 countries contributed in presenting it which confirms the big international support to the issue of Syria’s full restoration of the occupied Syria Golan to the June 4, 1967 line.”

http://syria360.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/un-renews-demand-that-israel-comply-with-unsc-res-497-on-golan/

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December 1st, 2012, 1:46 pm

 

137. SYR.EXPAT said:

“He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.” QURAN 9:33

“…Say: Perish in your rage!…” QURAN 3:119

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December 5th, 2012, 10:11 pm

 

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