The Syria Comment Hall of Fame

Posted by Qifa Nabki

Well, the results are in. Using several supercomputers and a sophisticated algorithm, two researchers, Bala Manyake and Amtihke Jad, with the Stockholm-based think tank SADDANA (Society for Advanced Data Analysis) have been able to determine the addiction level of different contributors to Syria Comment's discussion pages. If you've ever wondered just how serious your habit is, you can finally put a figure on it. (Note that these figures only reflect levels of addiction since September 2006, when the site moved to its current home at WordPress. Prior case history cannot be ascertained.)

Category A: Total Number of Comments

Grand Order of the Mulukhieh (2300+)

1. AnotherIsraeliGuy = 2319 comments

Esteemed Order of the Shish Tawouq (2000-2300)

2. Alex = 2047

Noble Order of the Kafta bi-Tahini (1000-2000)

3. Ausamaa = 1396

4. Norman = 1372

5. Qifa Nabki = 1345

6. Shai = 1173 

Honorable Order of the Mujaddara (500-1000)

7. Akbar Palace = 962      

8. Offended = 752           

9. Ehsani2 = 712             

10. Enlightened = 668 

11. Naji = 613 

12. Why-Discuss = 605

13. T_Desco = 518

14. SimoHurrta = 517

15. Ford Prefect = 509 

National Order of the Falafel (100+)

16. Honest Patriot = 481

17. Wizart = 452

18. Atassi = 384

19. MSK = 374

20. Majhool = 334

21. Zenobia = 331

22. Observer = 311

23. Nour = 267

24. IDAF = 242

25. Nur al-Cubicle = 235

26. Innocent_Criminal = 181

27. Joshua = 172

28. trustquest = 131

29. Bashmann = 129

30. KingCrane Jr. = 54


Category B: Frequency of Comments (per day)

Benefactor (over 5 per day)

1. AnotherIsraeliGuy = 8.6

2. Shai = 7.8 

Patron (2.0 – 4.9 per day)

3. Naji = 4.8

4. Qifa Nabki = 3.7

5. Alex = 3.2

6. Ausamaa = 2.2

7. Norman = 2.2 

Sustainer (1.0 – 1.9 per day)

8. Akbar Palace = 1.5

9. Honest Patriot = 1.2

10. Offended = 1.2

11. Enlightened = 1.1

12. Ehsani2 = 1.1

13. Why-Discuss = 1.0 

Donor (0.5 -0.9)

14. Majhool= 0.9

15. Ford Prefect = 0.9

16. Nour = 0.8

17. SimoHurrta = 0.8

18. Wizart = 0.8

19.  T_Desco = 0.8

20. MSK = 0.7

21. Atassi = 0.6

22. Observer = 0.6

23. Zenobia = 0.5 

People who have a life (0.1-0.4)

24. Nur al-Cubicle = 0.4

25. IDAF = 0.4

26. Innocent_Criminal = 0.3

27. Joshua = 0.3

28. trustquest 0.2

29. Bashmann = 0.2

30. KingCrane Jr. = 0.1 

Comments (134)

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101. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Yeah right. If Syria supports terrorism after the peace agreement Israel will take back the Golan. The Syrians are masters of plausible deniablity, like in the case of the Hariri murder. How will Israel ever prove that Syria is behind these attacks? It can’t and Syria knows this. Israel would be viewed as an aggressor in such a war unless we can produce strong evidence but this is usually impossible.

Don’t worry, what you wrote now people have also written 20, 40 and 60 years ago. Welcome to the club of people clueless about Israel.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:12 pm


102. Shai said:


I’m sorry. You’ve made sense in the past, but not now. Look at what you’re doing – you’re closing everything up real nice and tight, so that you can’t possibly be wrong. Syria will continue to support terrorism, also AFTER we give her back her Golan, but it will do so in a “plausibly deniable” fashion, so that no one will REALLY know or be able to prove it’s her? What?!? Maybe next you’ll say that we can’t possibly trust anyone, including Egypt or Jordan, because they’re quite likely doing the same, quietly and stealthily. Sorry… no go. That, my friend, is not sound logic. That’s paranoia. I don’t know about you, or most Israelis, but personally, I don’t wish to subscribe to it. It does my children’s future no service to be paranoid.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:24 pm


103. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Many things the Irgun did were immoral and stupid and I wouldn’t do them.

Ben-Gurion faced an awful choice but he did the only thing that could guarantee a viable Jewish state. I am glad I will never have to make such a decision.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:25 pm


104. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Get serious. Has Syria used terrorism in a plausibly deniable fashion in the past? Yes, both when it comes to Lebanon, Israel and Iraq. Why wouldn’t it use it in the future if it is in the regime’s interest? If the Syrians had not used it in the past, then I would certainly be paranoid. But they have consistently used this strategy over decades. I am not paranoid, you are just engaging in wishful thinking by ignoring the evidence in front of you.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:29 pm


105. Shai said:


I spelled out earlier why I thought Syria was supporting HA and Hamas. It did (and is doing) so because it is in her interest to do so. Why in her interest? Because it needs to pressure Israel indirectly to achieve the return of the Golan. What I claim, is that I find no logical reason for Syria to continue to have in its best interest the support of these (militarily) also AFTER getting the Golan back. I can’t find any good reason why it would still benefit from supporting these two after we make peace with her. If you can find a good reason, please spell it out.

As a general note, I’d always rather participate in wishful thinking, than in paranoia. Btw, if Syria successfully used terrorism in a plausibly deniable fashion, how do you know it was Syria? 🙂 Come on, we’re not talking about Syria BEFORE an agreement. You wouldn’t need an agreement, if Syria wasn’t doing what it’s doing!

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June 24th, 2008, 7:37 pm


106. Shai said:


Take your words about Ben-Gurion (with which I agree), and superimpose with Bashar Assad:

“(Bashar Assad) faced an awful choice but he did the only thing that could guarantee a viable (return of the Golan)…”

The Palestinians today condone Ben-Gurion’s acts no more than you or I Bashar’s. But if Ben-Gurion’s rationale works for the uprooting of hundreds of thousands of civilians, and erasing hundreds of their towns and villages, I suppose Syria’s indirect resistance of Israel via support of armed militias (and terrorists) might have its own rationale as well. We don’t have to accept it, but we’d be wise to understand it, so that we can help bring it to an end. And especially when your rival is almost begging you to.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:48 pm


107. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Look at the other thread, I answered offended exactly as to why Syria will likely continue using these tactics after a peace agreement.

In “plausible deniability” it is quite clear to all those that want to see that Syria is behind the action like the Hariri murder or the fact that syria allows Hizballah to smuggle weapons from Syria, but there is no evidence of the quality that you would need to convict Syria in a court of law. In most cases it is impossible to get such evidence or explain how you got it. As for witnesses, they are even more problematic. Syria is a master at playing this game. You see it now repeated with its nuclear program. And the sad thing is that many Syrians buy into this.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:51 pm


108. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Which awful choice was Asad facing? Ben-Gurion had to decide between evicting many civillians and a Jewsish state. The Golan is not that important to Syria and in fact it is perfectly fine without it as 40 years have shown. The dillemas of the two do not even come close and do not help me understand Bashar’s actions.

If in your last post you are not justifying terrorism then please explain to me again your argument.

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June 24th, 2008, 7:58 pm


109. Shai said:


Don’t you understand? Forget what “many Syrians are buying…” I take it for granted that Syria is supporting terrorism against Israel. I take it for granted that it has substantial chemical and biological weapons capabilities, and that it is actively seeking nuclear ones as well. I assume so, because that’s precisely what I WOULD DO if I were in her shoes, and the Golan which belonged to me, was still in Israel’s hands. As long as I knew I couldn’t defeat Israel’s army, I’d develop any and all other means of resisting and pressuring Israel to give back my land.

But in parallel, I too would seek a peaceful solution with Israel, rather than war. I, as Syria, would prefer to receive the Golan back, without a single shot fired, and without a single SCUD armed with WMD’s launched in war. But until I have the guarantee that this will happen (through a peace agreement), I cannot and must not stop any of my efforts. To me (being Syria), I am fighting an indirect war with Israel nonstop, since 1967, when it took over control of my Golan. And the only way to make me stop wanting to fight, is to make peace with me by returning my land.

Is it truly that difficult to understand?

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June 24th, 2008, 8:02 pm


110. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Do you understand that the end does not justify the means?
Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Because YOU would use terrorism if you were in the Syrian shoes it does not mean most Israelis would. I wouldn’t and neither would most Israelis. Let’s say Lebanon took the Galilee from Israel. Would you fund or support a campaign of suicide bombers to kill Lebanese civillians in order to pressure Lebanon? I wouldn’t. But you would. So there is a fundamental difference between us.

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June 24th, 2008, 8:09 pm


111. Shai said:


When I say that if I were Syria, I would also do what she’s doing, I’m not saying “It’s ok to murder innocent Israelis”, am I? I know that’s what you hear, because you’re not capable of empathizing with your enemy. To understand does NOT mean to accept, condone, or justify. I strongly resent this argument by those who disagree with me, who find this label useful for some odd reason. It’s almost like suggesting anyone who understands his enemy is a traitor. Well, how do you make peace with an enemy, if you don’t first come to understand him, and him you?

Yalla, I’m getting tired of this argument. I have a suggestion – watch a documentary called “Fog of War” with Robert McNamara, and then let’s talk. It’s absolutely amazing. It WILL change your mind about a lot of things… And that’s a promise!

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June 24th, 2008, 8:15 pm


112. Shai said:


If it wasn’t for Jewish terrorism against the British, and for Ben-Gurion’s order to force hundreds of thousands out of their homes, you and I would not be called Israelis, but rather Palestinians. What worked for us, can’t work for others? It was legitimate enough for us, but isn’t for them?

By the way, you’re right about most Israelis. Most wouldn’t use terrorism, and most wouldn’t make peace. To do either, you need leadership capabilities, boldness, and resolve. Most people don’t have these characteristics. Most people are followers, not leaders.

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June 24th, 2008, 8:20 pm


113. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:


When you say you would do what Syria is doing that means that you think that what Syria is doing is ok. How else can I understand you? Or do you mean it is ok for Syria but not for you? Why, because your morals are different than those of Syrians? I understand what the Syrians are doing and why they are doing it but believe it is ruthless and immoral. So just make yourself clear: Why would you do what the Syrians are doing?

I have seen “Fog of War” and read McNamara’s books on the discussions with the Vietnamese. It is not relevant to this discussion. The Vietnamese truly believed that the Americans wanted to colonize them like the French and the Americans overestimated how much control China and Russia had over the North Vietnamese.

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June 24th, 2008, 8:24 pm


114. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

First, fighting the British Army was not terrorism. Did Jews go to the UK and murder British civillians? NO. Big difference.
Second, do not compare the issue of the existence of the state of Israel to getting back a small part of the country that is not important for its existence. If Syria’s existence depended on the Golan, then your argument may have had some merit. But it doesn’t and your argument makes no sense.

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June 24th, 2008, 8:27 pm


115. Shai said:


McNamara’s Lesson Nr. 1 was “Empathize with your enemy”. In all of your arguments, I’ve yet to see any kind of understanding of your enemy.

For me, what Syria is doing in providing HA with Iranian-made rockets is not ok. But if I remain fixed in this position, and am unable to understand her rationale for doing what she’s been doing, I cannot ever achieve peace with her. If I understand it, there is a chance I’ll be able to trust that she will not continue to do so after we make peace. As long as I do not understand her reasoning, I can’t achieve a level of trust, that is a prerequisite to making peace. That is why, perhaps, so few of us can make peace. While the majority tend to stick to fear.

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June 24th, 2008, 8:31 pm


116. Shai said:

AIG, Lyla Tov!

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June 24th, 2008, 8:32 pm


117. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Here, see if I don’t understand Syria: Syria provides Hizballah with funding and rockets and Hamas with funding and knowhow because it feels that this will pressure Israel and Israelis to give back the Golan to Syria in exchange for Syria controlling Hizballah and Hamas.

There, do I understand the Syrian reasoning? It uses terror to influence Israel and there is no reason it will not use terror in the future if it fits its interests.

Is your understanding of the Syrian reasoning different?

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June 24th, 2008, 8:35 pm


118. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Your argument is just not clear. You say that what Syria is doing is not ok. But, since you want peace, you think about it a little and then it is ok. What exactly happens when you “understand” Syria? What exactly do you “understand” that makes what Syria is doing ok?

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June 24th, 2008, 8:38 pm


119. Shai said:


Forgive me for saying so, but I think your view of life is a very naive one. You honestly believe in right-vs-wrong. You think it’s right to kill soldiers, and it’s wrong to kill civilians. I think it’s wrong to do both. You want to fix the world, before fixing yourself. It makes no difference to you what Bashar says or does, as long as he’s a dictator. You refuse to do what’s right, because you fear that perhaps Syria won’t have a 50.1% majority in favor of receiving the Golan in return for peace. You fear that Syria might have interests to continue supporting Hezbollah militarily even after receiving the Golan. Your excuse to not trusting Syria, is Bashar, and democracy.

Your emotional fear-tactics may work on most Israelis, but not on me. Unlike you, I am capable of hating my enemy for how he is fighting me, condemning it until I’m blue in the face, but at the same time, ready to end it all, and head down the path to peace. You’re not. You want justice first. You want the terrorists of the world arrested and put away. You want the dictators of the world tried for their crimes. You want democracy to rule the streets and alleys of the Middle East, before you’ll give up a grain of sand under your control. In short, you think the game is played according to your rules, and your rules only. You’ve got morality on your side. Justice will prevail! And until then, we’ll fight to the last drop, to stand up for what’s right.

That’s naivety. And that, my friend, is why we’re still in the West Bank, still occupying the land and subjugating the lives of another people. Because, you see, we’ve got justice under our belt. Until “those people” figure out how to talk to us without using terrorism, we won’t let them loose. How irresponsible of us it would be, to hand such terrorists their own land, and their own nation? God knows what they’ll do, if we only let them out of their cage! They are to be mistrusted. And so are the Syrians. Their interests are to maintain war, regardless of whether they get back the Golan, or not. You know this to be reality. You’ve got them figured out. And the good news is, so do most Israelis. It’s us blinded ones, the Shais, the Ephraim Halevys, the Avi Dichters, the Uri Sagis, the Zeevi Farkashes, the Ehud Baraks, the Yitzhak Rabins, all of them… all blinded.

It’s those basic instincts of yours AIG (and of the majority of Israelis), that I admire so much. What is it about all of you, that I, and the rest of the blinded clan I mentioned, don’t seem to have? Foresight? Hindsight? Clarity of mind? Objectiveness? What is it? We see terrorism, but call it love? We see an Israeli die, and smile? We pat the backs of Nasrallah and Bashar, even if only in a dream? We wake up in the morning, thinking “Now what piece of land can I give away today?” Is that what differentiates us? Or is it perhaps that you, and most Israelis, wake up each day saying “The truth is so plain, it is staring me straight in the face, just as it always has. No need to think. No need to change my mind. It’s elementary. Only a fool couldn’t see it. And, best of all, most people think like me! Thank god… If they didn’t, where would I be? What would I do? How could our future be safe?”

AIG, I admire you for one thing which I personally don’t seem to have. Quietness. Peace of mind. You go to sleep at night feeling ok. You’re not bothered by the past 60 years, because you know justice is on your side. Because you know your enemy is worse than you. I, unfortunately, don’t enjoy that feeling about myself, or about Israel. I can’t sleep quietly at night, while 1.5 million Palestinians are barely eating. While young men and women are being recruited to blow themselves up, so that we’ll one day end our Apartheid. While I know Syria is seeking nuclear capabilities, while I’m sitting on my ass contemplating whether Bashar knew the ones that murdered Hariri. While Iran is passing huge sums of money to Syria, in return for free passage of long range rockets to Hezbollah, so that the Islamic Revolution will find its way into the hearts and minds of children also living along the Mediterranean. I, unlike you AIG, fear the future far more than my past. What we do now, or don’t do, will dictate the well-being of my two daughters far more than I (or you) can understand. And while people like you, and most Israelis, are perfectly happy sitting on their asses becoming experts at how NOT-to-do, I’m watching my region become more dangerous than it has ever been.

You, like most Israelis, assume a clash is inevitable. In a way, such a thing would finally legitimize everything you’ve always stood for, and proclaimed. It does you no good to consider an alternative. It would mean years of being wrong. But of course, Israel (and most Israelis) cannot be wrong. We’re a democracy. We seek justice. How can we be wrong? We won the Golan through war, not by stealing it. Why should we give it back? Really, why should we? And if we really have to, let’s give it to someone we can trust, not to some terrorist-supporting dictator. Oh, and if 50.1% of Syrians voted in favor of this ex-dictator, then fine. I’ll trust him then. But not before. Or, on second thought, maybe I won’t trust him then either. I want a new guy. A Syrian “Obama”. Someone I, and you, could clearly trust! It is, after all, about trust, isn’t it? Syria, let’s see you do a few things first, before WE should trust YOU! Stop supporting anyone that fights anything other than uniformed soldiers, okay? And when you stop, we’ll talk. Or maybe not right away. Maybe when it’s a good time for me. I’m busy now… And maybe later.

When, AIG, when will the timing for peace fit your schedule? Don’t tell me, tell yourself. And try not to laugh… 😉

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June 25th, 2008, 5:54 am


120. Alex said:

Soon Shai .. soon.

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June 25th, 2008, 6:29 am


122. Qifa Nabki said:

Interesting article in the Washington Post. What is especially curious to me is how old rumors end up turning out to be true.

The channel opened in the fall of 2006, just after the summer war in Lebanon that had made both Damascus and Tel Aviv nervous about the destabilizing role of Hezbollah, Iran’s proxy in Lebanon. Syria proposed indirect “proximity” talks and insisted on Turkey, a rare friend of both countries, as intermediary.

There was speculation about channels opening up between Damascus and Tel Aviv, back in 2006 in the months falling the war. Everyone pooh-poohed it.

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June 25th, 2008, 12:34 pm


123. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

When your arguments fail you resort to your emotive bull shit and to simplification of my argument. Your weak arguments and emotional outbursts explain well why the left in Israel is bankrupt.

The difference between you and most Israelis is that most Israelis make sense while you spout gibberish. You on the one hand view Iran as rational and on the other fear the Islamic Revolution. You talk about future horrors but fail to acknowledge that they already happened. Your non-chalant attitude towards the second intifida is unfathomable to me.

You seem to think that peace is going to solve any problem. It will not make Israel safer in the long term, which is what you are worried about, but only will make our situation more precarious. Breath deeply and accept the following: The Arab countries and societies have to change before peace and prosperity in the middle east arrives. This will take decades. If you don’t have the patience or want to be a useful idiot and give our enemies false hope that this will discourage us or make us go away, it is your right but don’t expect people not to point out the folly of your ways.

Arab societies will become much weaker before they become stronger because they refuse democratic reforms. See for example: Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan (and all the rest of the Arab countries)

When they finally emerge as cohesive societies with accountable regimes, that will be the time to make peace. Until then, the Arabs will wallow in their own misery and there is not much Israel can do about it. I sleep quietly at night because it is clear to me that the Arabs need to be worried about their Palestinian brothers and their societies much more than me. If the Arabs do not really care, why should I?

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June 25th, 2008, 2:38 pm


124. Shai said:


So I not only had the recent honor of becoming noble member of the Order of Kafta bi-Tahini, now I’m again your “useful idiot”… Thank you. Coming from you, it is truly an honor.

The emotive “bull shit” is not mine, my friend, it’s yours. You use fear-tactics, not I. You speak of a horrible future, not I. You distrust Arabs, not I.

You sleep quietly because it is clear to you that “the Arabs need to be worried about their Palestinian brothers… much more than me.” Hmmm… last I checked the first and second Intifadas were aimed directly at you… not at the Arabs. But I guess you slept just fine through them. In a nonchalant kind of way, right? The Left is bankrupt? My whole fricken country is bankrupt if you haven’t noticed. Where did Olmert, Katzav, and Hirshezon spend the majority of their adult lives? In the thriving Right I believe… remember? In your very own 13-seat Likud.

So my dear AIG, you keep sleeping well. Our future is safe, as long as people like you are at the helm, that’s for sure. After all, silly people like me (and some of the less-than-respectable clan I mentioned earlier, with a record slightly less than yours in working for the security of the state) are only trying to encourage our enemies, so that “this will discourage us or make us go away”. Make us go away… That’s a new one in your fear-tactics. I guess I missed this in my own rhetoric. But I’m sure it was there.

Remind me, AIG, why are you here? If you’re so set on the fact that “The Arab countries and societies have to change before peace and prosperity in the middle east arrives. This will take decades.”, why are you here? Do you plan to speed up this process of change? Are you winning over the hearts and minds of our Arab non-friends here? Will you remain on SC during these decades, while change is taking place? Are you here to encourage someone? To help them understand themselves better? And for what reason?

I’ve heard a lot of bullshit from you over these past 5-6 months. But I have yet to hear why you’re REALLY here. Why AIG? Why do you make 8.6 comments per day here? Why do you stay up late at night, and wake up early in the morning with SC? Do tell us.

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June 25th, 2008, 2:53 pm


125. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Fear tactics? It is you who are trying to sell the “peace” because otherwise Israel faces an horrible future. Who is peddling fear?

Of course I distrust the Arab regimes. Even their citizens distrust them. Only useful idiots trust oppressive regimes with a “brilliant” 60 year track record.

In our future there may be a major war but there certainly will be much low intensity warfare. That is the price of the Jewish state. If you do not like it, you have many options.

You are not part of the “respectable” clan that you mention because the aim of that clan is to flip Syria from Iran. You do not even think that is required.

I am here because it is fun and occasionally interesting. You are here to accept anything any Arab dictator does and then say that you “understand” it and would do the same. No?

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June 25th, 2008, 3:05 pm


126. Shai said:


No, I’m here to listen to “useless idiots” like you (as opposed to useful idiots like myself). This is the price of the Jewish state? YOU determine this price? Since when? If I don’t like it, I have many options? Last time I checked, it was YOU who was spending most of your time in the comfort of the U.S., not me.

Being here is “fun” for you? When 99% of the people here disagree with you? Well I’m glad for you, I really am. Enjoy this “fun”… But if you’re going to discuss things with me, I’d appreciate it if you lose the personal insults. Despite what I find to be your stubbornly foolish attitude, I try not to call you an idiot too often… (even when I think you’re being one). Let’s go back to at least being somewhat respectful of one another, shall we?

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June 25th, 2008, 3:16 pm


127. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

It is reality that determines the price. We have to accept it.
The more people disagree with me the more fun it is. What is the use of arguing with yourself or having discussions with people that agree with you?

PS How do you know how much time I spend where? You are just mistaken

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June 25th, 2008, 3:21 pm


128. Qifa Nabki said:

AIG & Shai

You guys have already humiliated the rest of us with your frequency counts! Are you trying to kick us while we’re down, with this latest shameless attempt to consolidate your positions?

Let’s take a break, give the rest of us a chance to catch up. In other words, some CBM’s are in order.

I will have a brief spat with Ausamaa… that will be good for, oh, maybe 5 comments each. Then Alex and I can go after each other for a good 9-10 comment round. Hmmmm… then I guess we could all post a few articles and videos on the Euro tournament…

No, I guess we’d still be way behind the both of you.

Oh well. *sigh*


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June 25th, 2008, 3:22 pm


129. Qifa Nabki said:

First Solar Car in Arab Region Made by Lebanese Team

A team of fourth-year engineering students and their professor have successfully built the first solar-powered vehicle in the Arab region, the American University of Beirut announced Wednesday.
The team named their car Apollo’s Chariot, in reference to the Greek god of the sun, the AUB press release said.

It said the steel-and-fiberglass, one-seater vehicle measures 5.5 meters in length and 2 meters in width. It weighs about 700 kilograms, or almost double the weight of an average sedan.
Led by Mechanical Engineering Assistant Professor Daniel Asmar, the team of Elie Maalouf, Amin Kanafani, Ahmed Hammoud, and Rawad el-Jurdi, took almost nine months of dedicated work to build the “Chariot,” AUB said.

It said that with its aerodynamic design, the futuristic-looking vehicle glides over the road quietly.

“It looks like a rocket, but moves like a swan,” said Kanafani. “We actually built a car that runs on a new kind of energy. It’s almost like magic!”

Professor Asmar admits, however, that solar-powered vehicles are still years from becoming commercially available. Right now, building one that can be safely driven on the streets would cost more than a million dollars. Nevertheless, they are important for research purposes.

Apollo’s Chariot cost about $25,000, the press release said.

It said that through 36 small and eight large photovoltaic cells, the car converts solar energy into 1000 watts of power. The components of the car include the cells and batteries, which capture and store the solar energy, and a DC (direct current) motor which converts energy from the batteries into a uniform source of energy. A maximum power point tracker device also maximizes the amount of power delivered from the cells.

Beirut, 25 Jun 08, 16:58

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June 25th, 2008, 3:26 pm


130. Shai said:


That’s what followers do – they accept things. The few courageous ones, however, don’t accept things as they are. They change them. Creating a safer future is not only our children’s responsibility, it is also ours. Aside from “having fun”, it’s such a shame of an opportunity you’re missing on this forum. Haval.

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June 25th, 2008, 3:33 pm


131. Shai said:

Qifa Nabki,

I will respectfully accept your suggestion, and take a break for a while. Although obviously emotionally-driven, both AIG and myself should not hijack this wonderful forum. If we want to have an endless go-at-it, we could find a different arena I’m sure… Sorry. I did get carried away, I must admit.

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June 25th, 2008, 4:08 pm


132. Qifa Nabki said:


I was just teasing. I’m actually enjoying this debate.

But it doesn’t look like either of you are!


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June 25th, 2008, 4:10 pm


133. Shai said:

After a while, the “fun” turns into something else… at least for me…

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June 25th, 2008, 4:23 pm


134. AnotherIsraeliGuy said:

Seriously, I am having a lot of fun. Everyone should feel free to chime in on it.

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June 25th, 2008, 7:03 pm


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