Western Press Misled – Who Shot the Nine Soldiers in Banyas? Not Syrian Security Forces

A number of news reports by AFP, the Guardian, and other news agencies and outlets are suggesting that Syrian security forces were responsible for shooting nine Syrian soldiers, who were killed in Banyas on Sunday. Some versions insist that they were shot for refusing orders to shoot at demonstrators.

Considerable evidence suggests this is not true and that western journalists are passing on bad information.

* Testimony of colonel `Uday Ahmad. My wife spoke this morning to one witness who denied the story. He is colonel `Uday Ahmad, brother-in-law of Lt. Col. Yasir Qash`ur, who was shot and killed in Banyas with eight other Syrian soldiers on Sunday April 10, 2011. Uday Ahmad was sitting in the back seat of the truck which Yasir was driving when he was shot dead on the highway outside Banyas. Uday said that shooting was coming from two directions. One was from the roof of a building facing the highway and another from people hiding behind the cement median of the highway. They jumped up and shot into the two trucks carrying Syrian troops, killing 9. Col. Uday survived. Here is video of the shooting shown on Syrian TV sent by my brother-in-law, Firas, who lives in Latakia.

* Video of one soldier purportedly confessing to being shot in the back by security forces and linked to by the Guardian has been completely misconstrued. The Guardian irresponsibly repeats a false interpretation of the video provided by an informant.

  1. This is what the Guardian writes: “Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces.”

The video does not “support” the story that the Guardian says it does. The soldier denies that he was ordered to fire on people. Instead, he says he was on his way to Banyas to enforce security. He does not say that he was shot at by government agents or soldiers. In fact he denies it. The interviewer tries to put words in his mouth but the soldier clearly denies the story that the interviewer is trying to make him confess to.  In the video, the wounded soldier is surrounded by people who are trying to get him to say that he was shot by a military officer. The soldier says clearly, “They [our superiors] told us, ‘Shoot at them IF they shoot at you.'”

The interviewer tried to get the wounded soldier to say that he had refused orders to shoot at the people when he asked : “When you did not shoot at us what happened?” But the soldier doesn’t understand the question because he has just said that he was not given orders to shoot at the people. The soldier replies, “Nothing, the shooting started from all directions”.  The interviewer repeats his question in another way by asking, “Why were you shooting at us, we are Muslims?” The soldier answers him, “I am Muslim too.”  The interviewer asks, “So why were you going to shoot at us?” The soldier replies, “We did not shoot at people. They shot at us at the bridge.”

* Alix Van Buren, a veteran reporter for la Repubblica, Italy’s leading newspaper, is in Damascus and sends the following report about the possible role of armed Khaddam agitators in Banyas.

Josh, the picture is extremely confusing and it is often impossible to confirm data on the web. The absence of most foreign media here in Syria adds to that murky picture. What I can contribute about the question of “foreign meddling” is the following. These are direct quotes from leading and respected opposition members:

Sunday two of ex-Vice President Khaddam’s men were arrested in Banyas. A human rights activist confirmed that they were sowing trouble by distributing money and weapons. I don’t know what to make of the confessions of the three guys shown on Syrian tv today. However, several Syrian dissidents believe in the presence and the role of “infiltrators”. Michel Kilo, though he accepts that possibility, cautioned that the issue of “infiltrators and conspiracies” should not be exploited as an obstacle in the quick transition towards democracy.

Haytham al-Maleh was the most explicit in pointing to the meddling of Khaddam people in and around Banias. He also mentioned the “loose dogs” loyal to Rifa’t al-Assad. According to him they are active particularly along the coast between Tartous and Latakya. Here is a link to my interview with al-Maleh in La Repubblica.

The veteran blogger Ahmed Abu ElKheir, unfortunately now in prison for the second time in less than a month, and not yet released, has links to Banyas. The first, peaceful demonstration of Saturday morning was also sparked by the request for his release. In his Facebook profile, before being arrested, he too lashed out against Khaddam. Several commentators from that area agreed with him, cursing Khaddam for meddling “with the blood of the innocents”.

Finally, what do you make of the remarks by Haytham al-Manna from Paris to Al Jazeera?

There is much buzz about that over here, although, the Western media doesn’t seem to have picked upon it yet. See the text in Arabic from Al Watan. Manna basically says that he was approached by a group of men, including a Syrian businessman holding a foreign passport, who asked him to facilitate the distribution of money and weapons to the young demonstrators. There is a vague reference to a person in the group, linked to a “major Arab Gulf country”. Al-Manna is from Dera’a, and if what he said is confirmed, his origin adds significance to the context. He reportedly issued a warning to the people in Dera’a not to accept offers of money or weapons from anyone.

I am trying to get confirmation of the above directly from him.

Also see my interview with Suhair al-Atassi

Post script to the previous note sent by Alix Van Buren:

I finally got through to Haytham Manna in Paris. He confirmed the story of Al Watan, adding a few details: he spoke about three groups having contacted him to provide money and weapons to the rebels in Syria. First, a Syrian businessman (the story reported by Al Jazeera); secondly, he was contacted by “several pro-American Syrian opposers” to put it in his words. (he referred to more than one individual); thirdly, he mentioned approaches of the same kind by “Syrians in Lebanon who are loyal to a Lebanese party which is against Syria”. Well, he probably means Hariri. But that is MY OWN ASSUMPTION, as he flatly refused to name names, for he said he does not want to get into “les contrastes libano-libanaises”. But when I pronounced that name asking him to fully express his thought, he did not contradict me. He did also refer to other nationalities “meddling” in the Syrian rebellion. He stated that the “Intifadat Karama”, the Intifada of Dignity, is a “purely Syrian affair” and that no one, “neither Jordanians, nor Lebanese, nor Saudis” should interfere. “It is a matter that Syrians must resolve among themselves”.

He also was extremely firm in saying that anyone providing money and weapons to the Syrian rebels, is “pushing them to commit suicide”, as “the confrontation with the Security apparatus cannot be won through armed clashes. Both the firepower and the sheer numbers of the military plus the security (which he puts at 2,5 millions in total) would crush them”, he says. In his opinion, “the young can prevail only through non-violence. He agrees that there are people close to Khaddam and Rifa’t along the coast, but he believes “they are very few – in the dozens” – and that the two exiled Syrians “don’t really have a political base of support”. The people who do create trouble and receive money for doing so, according to him, are simple “misérables”, “destitute individuals who will do so in exchange for money”.

All of the above is part of the current discourse among the Syrian opposition.

* A three-page document purporting to be a “top secret” Mukhabarat memo, giving instruction to intelligence forces that “it is acceptable to shoot some of the security agents or army officers in order to further deceive the enemy” has been published on the web and republished by all4Syria. A copy was sent to me with a translation by a journalist with a leading magazine for my thoughts. It has blood splattered on it and is clearly a fake. What army, after all, would survive even days if its top officers were publishing orders to shoot its own officers? Not a good moral booster for the troops.

AFP and other news agencies have quoted opposition members from Banyas insisting that the nine officers and soldiers of the Syrian army shot by government forces in Banyas. They also claim that “shadowy agents” opening fire on the people are agents of the regime.

“Banias is surrounded by tanks. No one can get in or out. It is like a prison,” said Yasser, a shopkeeper. “Security forces were responsible for killing soldiers in Banias because they had refused to attack the city,” he added – an account that differed sharply from the official version.

The official Sana news agency had said nine soldiers, including two officers, had been killed on Monday when their patrol was ambushed outside the town.

The army has encircled Banias since Monday, when shadowy agents of the regime opened fire on residents, particularly in front of mosques, killing four people and wounding 17….

Syrian soldiers shot for refusing to fire on protesters.
Katherine Marsh – a pseudonym – in Damascus
guardian, Tuesday 12 April 2011

Witnesses claim soldiers who disobeyed orders in Banias were shot by security services as crackdown on protests intensifies.

Syrian soldiers have been shot by security forces after refusing to fire on protesters, witnesses said, as a crackdown on anti-government demonstrations intensified.

Witnesses told al-Jazeera and the BBC that some soldiers had refused to shoot after the army moved into Banias in the wake of intense protests on Friday.

Human rights monitors named Mourad Hejjo, a conscript from Madaya village, as one of those shot by security snipers. “His family and town are saying he refused to shoot at his people,” said Wassim Tarif, a local human rights monitor.

Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces, while another video shows the funeral of Muhammad Awad Qunbar, who sources said was killed for refusing to fire on protesters. Signs of defections will be worrying to Syria‘s regime. State media reported a different version of events, claiming nine soldiers had been killed in an ambush by an armed group in Banias.

Activists said not all soldiers reported dead or injured were shot after refusing to fire. “We are investigating reports that some people have personal weapons and used them in self-defence,” said Tarif….

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51. brian said:

That Katharine Marsh piece is almost identical to similar lies that emanated from Benghouzi in Libya…notice that it has no clear idenfiable source..the Libyan case has been debunked:

http://12-7-9-11.blogspot.com/2011/03/behind-scenes-of-al-baida-massacre.html

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April 14th, 2011, 9:22 am

 

52. Akbar Palace said:

Baathism meets Zionism in Syria

Those who are behind the problems in Syria are Zionists morons attempting to destroy the great country that is Syria.

Australian-Syrian,

I’ve never seen so many dark skinned Zionists (and Zionist women wearing traditional clothing) speaking perfect arabic all in one place! Thank goodness we have You Tube. It’s remarkable how insidious the Zionists really are.

I’m sure if the Syrians opened some kosher chinese restaurants, somebody could earn a bundle.

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April 14th, 2011, 9:22 am

 

53. Revlon said:

الثورة السورية :: أكثر من 100 طبيباً من أطباء الدراسات في مشفى المواساة يعتصمون تضامناً مع زميليهما محمد منصور الخاف الذي أصابه رصاص الأمن الغادر في الجمجمة أمام كلية الشريعة وخلدون الجندي الذي اعتقلته قوى الأمن الجبانة وقوى الأمن تحاصرهم بأعداد كبيرة
Today

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April 14th, 2011, 9:23 am

 

54. nafdik said:

For all those who think the zionists, khaddam, rifaat, or lebanese MPs are behind the violence please consider:

– Who benefits from smearing the protestors and giving the security forces excuses to shut them down?

– How exactly does khaddam and rifaat benefit from this?

– How are Aljazeera, BBC, The Guardian, France 24, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International benefiting from smearing the regime?

– When was the last time all of the above agreed on any topic that turned out to be a lie? (there was one incident I recall but I leave it as an exercise to you)

– Who is closing communication routes and confiscating cell phones?

– Who is deporting journalists?

– Even if there are few violent attacks on security forces, who is killing innocent civilians?

– Even if there are violent attacks shouldn’t our security forces focus on them rather than focusing on harassing and imprisoning peaceful protestors?

– Do you actually believe the ‘confession’ clips shown on TV?

– Why are neutral observers not allowed in?

– Assuming the protestors have split into 2 factions one that wants to counter violence with violence and another that wants peaceful regime change. Should the latter be punished for the former?

– Is this not reminiscent of Israels excuses for attacking Palestinians and Lebanese? Protect their civilians against terrorists?

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April 14th, 2011, 9:24 am

 

55. Revlon said:

الثورة السورية :: النظام مرعووووووووب وخاصة من يوم الجمعة ، آخر ابداعاته أنه قام بالغاء عطلة الجمعة والسبت من دوائر الدولة حتى لا يتجمع الناس في صلاة الجمعة ــ لكنه وااااهم فلا يمكن منع الناس من الذهاب لصلاة الجمعة ،،، ونحن بدورنا نسأل مفتي الجمهورية ومشايخ البلد عن رأي الشرع بهذا الإجراء

http://www.facebook.com/Syrian.Revolution#!/photo.php?fbid=10150569063905727&set=a.10150397575815727.619133.420796315726&type=1&theater

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April 14th, 2011, 9:29 am

 

56. Revlon said:

الثورة السورية :: مضايا : المظاهرات التي أعقبت تشييع المجند غسان نادر الحجو الذي طالته رصاصات الغدر والخيانة لرفضه الانصياع لأوامر النظام بقتل إخوانه تم تطهير بلدة مضايا كاملة من الصور المدنسة للبلدة . . . وهذه أحدها كما تم هدم تمثال حافظ الأسد على قوس مضايا – كانت حملة النظافة ناجحة – بحمد الله ولم يبق ما يدنس البلدة مطلقا

April 11

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April 14th, 2011, 9:37 am

 

57. Dr.Fawaz said:

Dear Prof.Landis
The truth is that radical Muslims are killing innocent people and attack the army ….Our resources are our families and people in Lattakia and Banyas…..The media especially Aljazeera and Alarabia TV are trying to broadcast false news against the regime in Syria….They are trying to make people fight each other…..The Syrian official media are telling the truth…..what is happening in Syria : radical Muslims are trying to control power in Syria to transfer our lovely country to Talipan regime….Most Syrian want the reforms but few of them support these Islamic terrorists

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April 14th, 2011, 9:46 am

 

58. N.Z. said:

Australian-Syrian,

Shame on you!!
You are neither an Arab-Syrian nor an Australian, You are a coward.

Your words are a mere picture of your true identity.

We Syrians are one people, one nation, with multi ethnicity and religious believes. Fhimt or la?

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April 14th, 2011, 9:55 am

 

59. norman said:

A soldier is killed in Banias by snipers, according to AL Jazeera and BBC

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April 14th, 2011, 9:57 am

 

60. Australian -Syrian said:

Akbar Palace,
Your sarcasm humours me. First, when stating that all the Zionists are behind all this, i assumed that you would have been reading
previous comments and articles. The Zionists are the ones who sparked this whole situation, and like those protesters and gun men who were caught harming the innocent people said, they are manipulating them to do so. A whole group of protesters admitted to being paid to do what they are doing. All i can say is shame on them, for i never fathom how anyone, whether Syrian or not, would betray their “Watun” for something as material as money.

Nafdik,
You ask who benifits from all that is going on. I say, where the hell have you been the past few years?

How exactly does khaddam and rifaat benefit from this? You ask. Well, they are desiring to see a great country condemned. Yes, they do benifi from that. Because if Syria is no longer the tough and united country that it is, many people will be happy. As they can invade it and make it another Iraq.

Who is killing innocent people you ask? Well, once again, open your eyes, your mind and start observing for yourself what is happening. Those ‘so- called’ soldiers or officials killing innocet people. Have you not seen how they suddenly appear as protesters, after they kill someone? Have you not seen how a supposed soldier attacked an innocent by-stander, then miraculously appeared only minutes later as an anti-Bashar protester? Ive seen all this on news broadcasts. Then so should you. If you have no faith in them, fair enough. But dont think that you, or anyone else who comments like you, are going to have an effect on what we think, and what we KNOW. We are smarter than those who are easily manipulated into conforming to others’ way of thinking. And beliveing lies. I assuse that answers your question, ‘do you belive the confessions on tv?’ Yes i do.

What about those men that were caught? Didn’t they say that they attacked under orders? I assume that you are going to say that they were forced to say that by the Pro- Bashar media or something else that sounds stupid. Well, perceive things how you want to, but for you to say that outsiders will not benifit from what is happening, then you sir, or mam, are blinded by hatred of the Bashare government.

You are comparing Syria to Israel? HA! Syria is nothing like that country. Syria IS trying to protect itself from terrorists, but unlike the Jews, Syria is not killing people for the sake of it. And like i said, it is not the government who is killing these people, it is outsiders, or people within the circle of the President, who are trying to overthrow him. Bashar will never allow the killing of his people. What is happening is out of his reach…he is not authorising it.

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April 14th, 2011, 10:01 am

 

61. syau said:

Exiled Shami,

#30 – Actually, I dont depend on SANA for news, I also watch the rubbish that comes out of BBC, Al Jazzera, the internet and watch youtube broadcasts. I do though, keep and open mind and can see the fake from true. I also do not assume that everything bad happening in Syria is the fault of the Alawi just because the President is of that Sect. All that should matter is that he is the President, not what religious denomination he is. It seems like you along with others are happy to turn this into a sectarian war – shame on YOU. FYI – the President’s wife is not Alawi. Has that factored into your equasion at all?

The real problems need to be dealt with and swiftly… Who is trying to drive economic growth and foreign investment out of Syria? Who is trying and trying to bring down the government and failing constantly so they will try a new route which is a sectarian war, and people like you fall for it. Blood was spilled so automatically it must be those who are of the same denomination as the President.

I do not ask nor am interested in following up what religion the leader of the country I live in is because it’s on a no need to know basis.

When the unfortunate circumstances of September 11 happened, there were reports all over the world that Muslim terrorists were behind it. Nobody elaborated on what affiliation they were.
Stop instigation further hate amongst muslims by making the situation in Syria to be a sectarian problem. Again I will say that there are outside entities along with some living in Syria who are behind this farce of a revolution campaign trying to divide and destabalise the nation. They can try and try, but the wont succeed.

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April 14th, 2011, 10:09 am

 

62. surprised said:

Prof. Landis, are you also working on behalf of Syrian media?

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April 14th, 2011, 10:31 am

 

63. syau said:

Australian,

If only the Syrian nationals who BY THEIR OWN ADMITTION, took bribes to betray their country and fellow countrymen, would defend their country and heritage as you did, well, we wouldnt be in this mess and the Syrian revolution farce and all the bloodshed would be a passing nightmare. Hopefully there is remorse there and they feel bad about biting the hand that fed them. Then there might be hope that no one else will betray Syria as when the dust settles and this is over, the power hungry evil pscho’s will probably at it again with yet another version and attempt at destabalising Syria, because the scene in this movie is becoming too predictable

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April 14th, 2011, 10:38 am

 

64. Nafdik said:

Thanks Australian Syrian for the reply.

Can you recall an incident when all the sources i mentioned: aljazeera, cnn, bbc, drance 24, alarabia, human rights watch and amnesty international agreed on false facts?

Other than in relation to Syria?

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April 14th, 2011, 10:46 am

 

65. jad said:

D.N.N شبكة دمشق الاخبارية
دمشق – مشفى المواساة: تم فض اعتصام لطلاب الدراسات العليا بشكل سلمي
3 hours ago ·

Mohammad Youssef Shaar الى جميع الأخوة المعلقين والمعلكين في هذه الصفحة…. يا ريت ما حدا يتفزلك وياكل هوا ويحكي قبل ما يعرف شو صار .. .. اسا كل واحد عم يتفزلك ويحكي… الي صار بالمواساة ارقى طريقة للتعبير عن النفس .. .والدليل على هالشي انو تم الاتفاق مسبقا بين الأطباء انو ما حدا يصور ولا لقطة..لأنو اللي صار مو مشان حدا يتفرج.. اللي صار بين الأطباء وادارة المشفى والاتحاد الوطني لطلاب سوريا… وكانت مطالب نبيلة وتم تنفيذها فوريا مشكورين….وما حدا الو علاقة شو كانت القصة… .. كلنا ضد التخريب ومع الاصلاح .. والله يحمي سوريا من ايدي المخربين
about an hour ago

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April 14th, 2011, 10:50 am

 

66. syrian free christian said:

We Syrians know the gov better that anyone , they are the ones who benefit fro this only , how stupid could anyone be to attack the army ?
the security forces of maher al asad are excuting anyone who dosent shoot the innocent protestors .
this bullshit is an addition to the stupidity of the current regym
they are going down sooner or later , the wall of fear is broken
my condolenses to your wifes loss but please tell her the truth .

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April 14th, 2011, 11:01 am

 

67. majedkhaldoon said:

There will be more demonstrations ,friday.
Where is the reform that we were promised it is coming?there is no reform,we are tired to hear those promises,we do not trust this regime who is resorting to lies and deceiving,security forces and Shabbiha ARE who are doing the crimes,we will not be deceived,The syrian people know that.
April 17 is coming,it was the day the french left Syria, hopefully it is going to be the day The Asadists will leave.
We must regain our freedom,The Syrian will be free,no matter how much this will cost.

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April 14th, 2011, 11:13 am

 

68. why-discuss said:

AP

“It’s remarkable how insidious the Zionists really are.”

They certainly are.. Look at the history of vicious crimes in occupying palestine and killing resistants everywhere in the world, including in Dubai disguised in innocent tourists.
They are master of disguise and manipulation, I am glad you admit it!

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April 14th, 2011, 11:18 am

 

69. why-discuss said:

majedkhaldoon

“We must regain our freedom,The Syrian will be free,no matter how much this will cost.”

You sound like Bush about Iraq. Maybe you should share the cost by participating in these demonstrations!

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April 14th, 2011, 11:21 am

 

70. norman said:

The new government,

2011-04-14 18:13:53

الرئيس الأسد يصدر مرسوما يتضمن تشكيلة الحكومة الجديدة برئاسة سفر

أصدر الرئيس بشار الأسد، يوم الخميس، مرسوما بتشكيلة الحكومة الجديدة برئاسة عادل سفر.

وبموجب المرسوم تتألف الحكومة الجديدة من الدكتور عادل سفر رئيسا لمجلس الوزراء.

والعماد على حبيب وزيرا للدفاع.

ووليد المعلم وزيرا للخارجية والمغتربين.

والمهندس سفيان علاو وزيرا للنفط والثروة المعدنية.

والدكتور المهندس عماد عبد الغنى الصابونى وزيرا للاتصالات والتقانة.

والدكتور محمد عبد الستار السيد وزيرا للاوقاف.

والمهندس عمر ابراهيم غلاونجي وزيرا للادارة المحلية.

ومنصور فضل الله عزام وزيرا لشؤون رئاسة الجمهورية.

ولمياء مرعي عاصي وزيرا للسياحة.

والدكتور محمد رياض حسين عصمت وزيرا للثقافة.

والدكتور جورج ملكي صومي وزيرا للري.

والقاضي تيسير قلا عواد وزيرا للعدل.

والدكتور رياض فريد حجاب وزيرا للزراعة والإصلاح الزراعي.

والدكتور رضوان الحبيب وزيرا للشؤون الاجتماعية والعمل.

والدكتور عبد الرزاق شيخ عيسى وزيرا للتعليم العالي.

واللواء محمد ابراهيم الشعار وزيرا للداخلية.و

الدكتور محمد الجليلاتي وزيرا للمالية.

والدكتور محمد نضال الشعار وزيرا للاقتصاد والتجارة.

وصالح الراشد وزيرا للتربية.

والدكتور وائل نادر الحلقي وزيرا للصحة.

والمهندس هالة محمد الناصر وزيرا للإسكان والتعمير.

والدكتور فيصل عباس وزيرا للنقل.

والمهندس عماد محمد ديب خميس وزيرا للكهرباء.

والدكتور عدنان حسن محمود وزيرا للإعلام.

وعدنان سلاخو وزيرا للصناعة.

والدكتور كوكب الصباح داية وزيرا للدولة لشؤون البيئة.

ويوسف سليمان احمد وزيرا للدولة.

والمهندس غياث جرعتلى وزيرا للدولة.

والمهندس حسين محمود فرزات وزيرا للدولة.

وجوزيف سويد وزيرا للدولة.

وحسان الصاري وزيرا للدولة.

سيريانيوز

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April 14th, 2011, 11:27 am

 

71. why-discuss said:

Who is behind Katherine Marsh? It is a pseudonym of a journalist in Syrian. Anyone knows? Why is he/she hiding his/her real name?

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April 14th, 2011, 11:33 am

 

72. N.Z. said:

Joshua,

Is there another link where we can read your interview with Suhair Atassi in English/Arabic?

Thanks.

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April 14th, 2011, 11:40 am

 

73. Syria Almighty said:

Lebanese security forces capture 2 men trying to infiltrate Syria with a car full weapons:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=216657

But, but… there are no foreign elements causing violence in Syria! There are only peaceful protesters!!

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April 14th, 2011, 11:43 am

 

74. jad said:

Dr. Landis.
You are correct about the authenticity of the three-page document, it’s fake:

وثائق مزورة و مكامن التزوير هي:

أولا ـ في شكل “ترويسة” الورقة . فهي مكتوبة بطريقة عادية على الكومبيوتر ، بينما الأوراق الرسمية لإدارة المخابرات العامة مطبوعة بنظام “أوفست” المطبعي التقليدي ، مع وجود ” شعار الجمهورية” (
النسر) في أعلى ووسط الورقة. هذا مع الإشارة إلى أن الإدارة تستخدم الخط ” الثلث المشكل” والخط “الفارسي” حصرا في ترويس مطبوعاتها.

ثانيا ـ كافة أختام المخابرات العامة وفروعها شكلها بيضوي ، وتتضمن اسم المخابرات العامة ( بالخط الفارسي) في الجزء العلوي من الخاتم ، بينما يتضمن جزؤها السفلي رقم الفرع ( الفرع 285 ، الفرع 251 ..
إلخ). وهو ـ بالمناسبة ـ نظام موحد مع شعبة المخابرات العسكرية ، لأن المصصم والمصنّع جهة واحدة ( مطابع وزنغوغراف الجهة نفسها التي تطبع وثائق الدولة الخاصة وتصنّع أختامها). وحين تكون الوثيقة صادرة باسم
قيادة الإدارة ، وليس باسم فرع من فروعها، يكون الجزء العلوي متضمنا اسم “الجمهورية العربية السورية” ، أما جزؤها السفلي فمكتوب عليه عبارة” إدارة المخابرات العامة”.

ثالثاـ جميع الأختام الرسمية العائدة لإدارة المخابرات العامة (والأجهزة لأخرى) تتضمن شعار الجمهورية العربية السورية في المنتصف ( النسر الذي يتجه رأسه نحو يمين الصورة).

رابعاـ و هو ما كان طرف الخيط الذي قادنا إلى اكتشاف التزوير عبر الفحص ببرنامج فتوشوب، فإن المزور( رضوان زيادة؟) ، الشديد الغباء كما يبدو ،عمد إلى قص الخاتم المستطيل المفبرك ولصقه على الورقات الثلاث .
وما يؤكد ذلك أن درجة ميلان الخاتم واحدة ومتطابقة تماما في الورقات الثلاث!! وغني عن البيان أن أي إنسان لا يمكن له أن يمسك خاتما ويختم به ثلاث ورقات ، ولا حتى ورقتين، ويحافظ على زاوية ميلانه نفسها في
عملية ختمها! فهذا مستحيل على أي بشري أن يقوم به ، إلا إذا كنا نتحدث عن عالم الجن والعفاريت!( ليجرب أحد منكم ذلك بنفسه). هذا فضلا عن أن درجة كثافة الحبر هي نفسها في الأختام الثلاثة ( كما أظهرها
التحليل). وهذا مستحيل أن يحصل في الحالة الطبيعية!

خامساـ المخابرات العامة ، وغيرها من أجهزة المخابرات والمؤسسات المدنية والعسكرية ، لاتستخدم عبارة ” سري جدا” ، وإنما ” سري للغاية” ، وأحيانا ” سري للغاية يفتح بالذات” إذا كانت موجهة إلى جهة
شخصية أو اعتبارية محددة دون غيرها.

سادسا ـ كافة وثائق إدارة المخابرات العامة ، وغيرها من الأجهزة، تتضمن عبارة فرعية في نهاية الوثيقة تقول ” المرسل إليهم” ، تليها الجهات التي أرسلت إليها الوثيقة.

سابعا _ الفيديو المرفق http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCBOa9ftMMA

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April 14th, 2011, 11:49 am

 

75. jad said:

N.Z.
I run the article into translation, it’s readable:

‘A slap to the Revolution, so Syrian become citizens’
April 6, 2011 – page 17 Section: FOREIGN POLICY

DAMASCUS – The slap that woke Syria was settled by the little hand that now welcomed at the front door to Dumm, a new neighborhood outside the capital. Behind the smile is bright Suhair al-Atassi, perhaps the most prominent dissident in the country. “Really, it’s a dream to be here. Only ten days ago, m ‘expecting the worst torture, “congratulates the petite woman in jeans, 39, two eyes that sparkle’ s enthusiasm. Not that that ceffonea a robust security agent which is fabled in the spring of freedom, would dare to lightly. Entertainer of the most respected politician living in the city, heir to a ‘illustrious dynasty, the Atassi – presidents, ministers, ambassadors, judges, all stubborn in the application of democracy, the children of the’ Arab Liberal Age “at the turn of the century – has just Suhair back from prison after 15 days of strike fame.È out with the release of political prisoners launched by the new government. Ms. Atassi, because she was arrested? “I’ll tell. The first “day of rage”, March 15, When ‘I saw young people take to the streets, men and women of every ethnicity and religion, I announced that the Syrians are now real citizens, no more sheep. That country has no Sayyed, a Lord. Dangerous words in the eyes of the regime. In addition, there ‘was that previous history of the slap. ” Com ‘has been that story? “In February we had been strapped to a rally of solidarity with the Tunisians and Egyptians. I complained to the central mukhabarat of Bab Touma. Sa ‘cos I got in return? Only insults threats. A mukhabarat I growled: “You’ll see, you kill someone. Clean up the streets by cockroaches, prostitutes like you. Then, m ‘struck. Here, at the time m’ is the slap game.” An act impulsively or move a blatant ? “a movement of ‘instinct, however, dictated by the dignity of the citizen. After all, the Arab awakening, a slap is not the most infamous act of a policeman, without consequences. It has a driving force since December 17 the young man in Tunisia Bouaziz after such mortification s’ is sacrificed in the fire, sparking the revolt of millions off the coast of ‘the dunes of the Atlantic’ Hijaz. “His rebellion, however, has had an impact?” I have not intimidated. I started to show . I was arrested March 16 in a Sitin for political prisoners. mukhabarat I wanted to make me pay. Do not forget the ‘hatred in their eyes when m’ were taken in two by the arms, beating four others behind.’re mukhabarat against me alone. Ironically, the central me medicated. “Have you been given the presence of a lawyer?” Yes, and the judge sympathized with us. The real issue, however, is another: the overwhelming power of the Mukhabarat, which deprives the judiciary. I started with the other women on hunger strike. When they released all but me, so I did not know ‘to expect. mukhabarat I m’ had sworn the kidnapping, rape, death if I did not stop ‘s activities My Forum, also on Facebook. They took my son in Lebanon. Alone in his cell, I thought my hour had come. But then, at 8.45 on Sunday evening, the jail’s’ al-hamdulillah is open, God be praised. L ‘incuboè evaporated. “repeating his gesture?” Now the square is open. Facebook has broken the’ isolation of Syria with the ‘outside, and the people inside. Connect Syrian and Egyptian dissident historians and young actors in a new way of doing politics. “And the ‘opposition party in this scenario?” And’ late, as in Egypt, stained by the ideologies of the party – the Communists, Nasser, nationalist – and an ‘average age of 60. The ‘burst of youth has disrupted the scene. In 2005, I opened my forum to a committee only young people, the untried, dynamic, far more dangerous. And he wants to know something? Ironically, all happened under the questoè guard of President Bashar al-Assad. “Meaning?” What news are germinated on the ground of freedom granted by Assad after ‘coming to power. Maybe even he’s’ waiting for the result. If I guess his intention, he wanted to buy legitimacy in the eyes of the Syrians. When the scheme s’ is aware of the risk, the repression began. But under his rule was established civil society, have developed the Internet, the student movements in 2003, important phenomena of volunteers: those who are now in place. “In your opinion, what is the course of Syrian protest?” Until now the ‘It found that young Syrians were not committed as the Egyptians and Tunisians. that Syria was not ripe. What time would serve to throw the solid foundations of a revolt. To be honest, I do not even know who really mobilize the rebellion. I know, however, that when blood is shed, no turning back. Syria has changed. I ‘ve told the judge, and m he ‘smiled: we want to be real citizens. “- from our correspondent ALIX VAN BUREN

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April 14th, 2011, 11:53 am

 

76. Dr.Fawaz said:

Dear Prof. Landis
I feel strange not to publish my comment which explain the truth of what is happening in Syria …..I hoped that we have real freedom to express our opinion in North America.
Best regards

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April 14th, 2011, 12:05 pm

 

77. NK said:

Dear Australian -Syrian

You need a new pair of glasses …

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April 14th, 2011, 12:11 pm

 

78. Atassi said:

World News
U.S. Says Iran Helps Crackdown in Syria
By Adam Entous And Matthew Rosenberg
14 April 2011
The Wall Street Journal Online
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Iran is secretly helping Syrian President Bashar al-Assad put down pro-democracy demonstrations, according to U.S. officials, who say Tehran is providing gear to suppress crowds and assistance blocking and monitoring protesters’ use of the Internet, cellphones and text-messaging.

At the same time, communications intercepted by U.S. spy agencies show Tehran is actively exploring ways to aid some Shiite hardliners in Bahrain and Yemen and destabilize longstanding U.S. allies there, say U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence. Such moves could challenge interests of the U.S. and Saudi Arabia and inflame sectarian tensions across the Middle East, they say.

“We believe that Iran is materially assisting the Syrian government in its efforts to suppress their own people,” said an Obama administration official.

U.S. officials say they don’t see Iran as the driving force behind popular revolts against longtime U.S. allies in the Mideast, and caution they have no concrete evidence that Iran is providing or preparing large-scale financial or military support to opposition elements in Bahrain or Yemen.

Rather, the White House has worried that protracted political turmoil could provide an opening for additional influence by Tehran, whose nuclear ambitions are a concern to the U.S. and its allies in Europe and the Middle East.

So far, an administration official said, Iranian “aspirations far outpace their ability to project their influence into these places.”

By disclosing intelligence about Iranian involvement, the U.S. appears to be trying to put Tehran on notice that it is under close surveillance in Washington. “We’re keeping an eye on these activities,” another Obama administration official said.

The U.S. disclosures also appear designed to help soothe anxious Arab and Israeli allies, who have privately complained that President Barack Obama, in his enthusiasm to embrace popular uprisings, is paying scant attention to how the revolts could play into the hands of their regional nemesis, Iran. By voicing concerns about Iran’s activities, the U.S. appears to be trying to close ranks, at least in part, with Saudi and Bahraini leaders whose warnings about Tehran’s influence in their internal affairs have long been played down in Washington.

Iranian diplomats didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Some U.S. officials have expressed surprise that Shiite-dominated Iran hasn’t intervened more aggressively to support Mr. Assad and Shiites in Bahrain. Officials said they believed Iran has secretly promised more help to Mr. Assad if the protests intensify.

U.S. officials believe Iran’s recent support for Mr. Assad reflects Tehran’s concerns about losing a critical regional ally and military partner against Israel.

So far, officials said, Iran has begun transferring to Damascus equipment to help security forces put down protests. This includes providing Syrian authorities with equipment, advice and technical know-how to help curtail and monitor internal communications, including the email and online postings that opposition groups commonly use to organize their protests and report security excesses, officials said. Some deliveries have been made and others are believed to be in the works, they said.

Iran is also sharing “lessons learned” from its 2009 crackdown on protesters who demanded the removal of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the officials said. “These guys know the best practice in this kind of situation—they’ve had lots of experience in this sphere,” a U.S. defense official said of the Iranians.

“The Syrians don’t want to see a Green Revolution in their country,” the defense official added, referring to the protest movement in Iran. “The Iranians are ready to help.”

Any aid to Mr. Assad could signal an escalation of sectarian proxy battles in the region, one the U.S. has sought to avert.

The Obama administration repeatedly pressed Sunni-ruled Saudi Arabia and Bahrain not to use force against largely Shiite protesters, according to U.S. officials, fearing that would provide Iran with an excuse to start meddling in Bahrain and elsewhere in the Middle East. Under Tehran’s religious code, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has an obligation to protect the rights of Shiites world-wide. “We told them not to use force because it would provide Iran with an excuse,” a senior U.S. official said. “They didn’t listen.”

Last month, Saudi Arabia sent troops into neighboring Bahrain to support the island kingdom’s ruling al-Khalifa family against protesters.

The U.S. is concerned large-scale solidarity protests could break out in Iraq, whose Shiite majority has close religious ties to Bahrain’s Shiites. That could complicate U.S. plans for withdrawing troops this year. The U.S. has long accused Iran of providing weapons, funding and training to anti-American militants in Iraq and to the Taliban in Afghanistan, as well as to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The latest U.S. assessment is based on intelligence that includes intercepted communications among Iranian officials as well as between Iranian officials and Bahraini and Yemeni opposition figures. Military officials describe intercepted “chatter” in which Iranian officials have talked of the possibility of shipping cash, weapons or both to opposition elements in both countries.

A U.S. defense official said Iranian policy makers are seriously debating how much aid, if any, to provide to Bahrain’s opposition. Another U.S. official said some intelligence indicated that Iran has made small-scale transfers of money and light weapons—”a few dozen guns, maybe less, definitely not more”—into Bahrain. Much of the intelligence suggests Iran and Hezbollah were focused now on using propaganda to assert influence among restive Shiites.

Other Iranian officials appear content to let Bahrain’s leaders become more repressive, which the defense official said is “probably more effective at getting people riled up against the king” than anything Tehran could do.

The Bahraini and Yemeni governments have long claimed Iran is meddling in their internal affairs, an issue they know could alarm their U.S. counterparts.

U.S. intelligence agencies have long been skeptical of such claims. But last week, after talks in Riyadh, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. has unspecified “evidence” of Iranian interference in Bahrain and elsewhere.

Shiite political leaders in Bahrain say that while they have cultural and religious connections to Iran, they aren’t seeking help or guidance from abroad. They say accusations of Iranian involvement are designed to deflect their demands for democratic reforms and to justify Bahrain’s widescale detention of suspected protest organizers, which the government has said it suspects of ties to Iran or its ally, Hezbollah.

“Bahraini Shia are very aware of how they’re paying the price for Iran’s growing power in the region,” said Nabeel Rajab, president of the Bahrain Centre for Human Rights. “They know to keep their distance.”

To keep a lid on tensions in Bahrain, which is home to the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet, the White House has encouraged protesters to negotiate with the king, rather than seek his ouster.

In Yemen, the U.S. has shifted from supporting President Ali Abdullah Saleh to backing talks aimed at easing him from power.

Last year, the U.S. picked up intelligence showing Iran had provided a small amount of support to Yemen’s Houthi rebels, which have fought against Saudi and Yemeni forces, although officials say their knowledge is limited because of a lack of U.S. intelligence sources in the area.

The Houthis, who aren’t part of the political opposition demanding Mr. Saleh’s removal, have stayed quiet in their home region during the past two months of upheaval. The Houthis follow a minor offshoot of Shiism that isn’t the same as the version practiced in Iran.

Jay Solomon, Nathan Hodge, Margaret Coker and Bill Spindle contributed to this article.

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April 14th, 2011, 12:28 pm

 

79. jad said:

Here we go, the American administration is steering the sectarian element in Syria and cooling it down in Bahrain, but what matter the most is this:

“The U.S. disclosures also appear designed to help soothe anxious Arab and Israeli allies, who have privately complained that President Barack Obama, in his enthusiasm to embrace popular uprisings, is paying scant attention to how the revolts could play into the hands of their regional nemesis, Iran. By voicing concerns about Iran’s activities, the U.S. appears to be trying to close ranks, at least in part, with Saudi and Bahraini leaders whose warnings about Tehran’s influence in their internal affairs have long been played down in Washington.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704547804576261222747330438.html?mod=WSJ_World_LeadStory

الرئيس الأسد يقرر الإفراج عن الموقوفين بالأحداث الأخيرة ممن لم يرتكبوا جرائم

(دي برس)
بناء على اجتماعات الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد مع فعاليات دينية وشعبية في عدد من المحافظات والذي استمع خلالها إلى آراء الأخوة المواطنين ومقترحاتهم لتطوير العمل الوطني.. وحرصا من سيادته على تدعيم التلاحم بين أبناء الشعب.. وتقديراً منه لحرصهم على سلامة الوطن وأمنه واستقراره.. قرر الرئيس الأسد حسب وكالة الأنباء السورية سانا الإفراج عن جميع الموقوفين على خلفية الأحداث الأخيرة ممن لم يرتكبوا أعمالا إجرامية بحق الوطن والمواطن.

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April 14th, 2011, 12:30 pm

 

80. Vedat The Turk said:

@ Syria Almighty

Is the only thing you can do is throw insults and profanities? Seriously. I have gone through the last couple of weeks of posts you have made to this blog and they all come across as anger infused hateful comments.

If you choose to critique someone’s comments fine. But do it in an intelligent coherent manner that highlights what you do not agree with. This way you can sway others with your knowledge and skill. To just spew out anger and insults makes you come across as foolish and lacking in refinement. In other words: Better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt : )

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April 14th, 2011, 12:30 pm

 

81. Nour said:

I can’t believe what I’m reading here by some of the posters supporting this “Revolution”. When the news first broke of the nine soldiers killed, most did not even want to bring them up, as they didn’t think they were important. Then, when they couldn’t really ignore the fact that nine Syrian soldiers were shot at and killed by armed men, they changed the strategy into one blaming the security forces for killing them due to their refusal to follow orders to shoot at demonstrators. Now, when this accusation is totally refuted, they descend into mass hysteria and throw a fit about the audacity of Prof. Landis to refute these claims. It doesn’t seem to bother them that there are really armed groups causing trouble in Syria. It doesn’t seem to bother them that these “revolutionists” have used every possible immoral, unethical, disgraceful, and debased means to sell a story and incite people against the regime. I wish some of you would just come clean and admit that you support the armed groups, and support the use of violence to overthrow the regime, rather than pretend to be innocent advocates of peaceful protests. The fate of a country is at hand here; this is not a game or a joke. Either take a clear position or spare us your moral righteousness. Do you or do you not support the presence of armed groups in Syria? Do you or do you not support the use of violence for the sake of toppling the regime? If not, then you should clearly condemn those who are using these means. If so, then at least be honest with us.

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April 14th, 2011, 12:33 pm

 

82. أمنية said:

everyone is just doing their best to analyse explain suppot present supporting evidence of who why and what is happening.
few are putting their fingers on the wound, syrian tv , almutran almufti all are killing themselves by giving hints and suggestions that what is happening is coz of sectarian and ethnic issues,
Syrians don’t give a shit about these things,
in arabic they are pushing the people to say .
almutran today issued a statement for Christians to stay in churches celebrating ,
، فقد أجمع رؤساء الطوائف المسيحية في حلب، وبمناسبة الأعياد المجيدة القادمة، على إقامة الطقوس الدينية، والصلوات المعتادة داخل كنائسنا حصراً، مع الابتهالات لله تعالى، لأن يحفظ الوطن الغالي من كل شر، ويحقن دماء الأمة، ويصون كرامتها، ووحدتها الوطنية فوق كلِّ مواطنيها، من كل المشارب، والشرائح، والأديان، والمذاهب، والتيارات.
وبهذه المناسبة المجيدة، تدعو الطوائف المسيحية في حلب من جوارحها، لهذا الوطن الغالي السلامة، والعافية بتحقيق غاياته الوطنية التي تعلو فوق الجراح، وتستنهض ضمير الأمة الحي المتجذّر في تاريخ يغوص آلاف السنين في عمق الأرض، تلك سورية المنارة على مرّ العصور، والتي نأمل لها أن تبقى كذلك في مستقبلها، ويتمثل ذلك بإجماع الأمة على ثوابتها في وحدة الوطن أرضاً، وشعباً، والتآلف بين أبنائه التي يشكل كل منهم دعامة أساسية لنهوض
what do u read between the lines? that there might happen at attack on u so stay in doors!!
the national tv is broadcasting stupid documentaries of syrians of different sectarian backgrounds living peacefully with each other!!!!
a very very dirty game
peace to our martyrs they didn’t die for this

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April 14th, 2011, 12:37 pm

 

83. EHSANI2 said:

A decent looking government. The Minister of Economy and trade is noteworthy. I think that this is a positive development overall. I believe that this ministry will consolidate more decision making under its roof now. There will be more accountability and focus. Looks good.

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April 14th, 2011, 12:41 pm

 

84. syrian said:

لك طول ما انكون منافقين وعم تنادوا بالحرية وتكذبوا اي حدا ضد افكاركم بحياتكم ما رح تصيروا بشر
ما في معارض (كما يدعي انه معارض) ممكن يتقبل رأي الؤيد وفورا يكذبه ويتهموا بالغباء وانو عميل للنظام
بس سبحان الله المعارض هو الوحيد اللي وطني وما ممكن يكون عندو انتماءات خارجية
لكل تضربوا واحد يقول للتاني والله يلعن كل مين عم يشجع العالم تنزل عالشارع

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April 14th, 2011, 12:53 pm

 

85. jad said:

Dear Oumniya,
“what do u read between the lines?”
I think our Christian Syrians are doing the right thing, what I read between the lines is not that they are afraid, it’s more out of respect that the nation is in mourn so no celebration are needed, if they didn’t do that it’ll be very insulting that part of the Syrians are celebration while their brothers and sister are dead.
That was a very smart, responsible and courageous decision.

“that there might happen at attack on u so stay in doors!!”
There is a possibility during these times that someone (Amn, Thugs, Shabiha, Moundaseen or simply Radicals) as we saw in Egypt before do attack to make more trouble.
Stay home or inside Churches, nothing wrong with that.

P.S. an early Happy and Safe Easter Season to all.

Dear Nour,
Some guys on SC are already wrote that they are comfortable with the idea of arming citizens and using kids, I guess you missed that.

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April 14th, 2011, 1:02 pm

 

86. Nour said:

Ehsani2:

What information do you have on the new minister of economy and trade? I’d be interested to know.

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April 14th, 2011, 1:56 pm

 

87. NK said:

Nour

I can only speak for myself, and I’m totally against anyone carrying any weapons let alone shooting at security forces regardless of their transgressions, protecting the public is the responsibility of police not anyone else (not even Al-lijan Al shaabiya), if security forces are indeed shooting protesters then sadly that’s a price Syrians will have to pay for their freedoms, retaliation and taking up arms won’t get us anywhere.

The insulting part though is smearing all those Syrians with legitimate demands as agents of foreign shadowy forces. Or accusing all those who demonstrated all over Syria as violent thugs, not to mention the insults/attacks those of us who don’t want to accept empty promises have endured.

I just read this
يعين اللواء محمد ابراهيم الشعار وزيراً للداخلية
الشعار هو مدير سجن تدمر أيام المجزرة و هو اللي أشرف على مجزرة سجن صيدنايا
Is this really the best man for the job at this point of time ?

EHSANI

Al Jazeera english report said the new cabinet is big time socialist policy supporters, do you think there’s any truth to that ?

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April 14th, 2011, 2:05 pm

 

88. Nour said:

NK:

No one is smearing all the protesters. Just about everyone condemning the infiltrators and shadowy forces are emphasizing that there are indeed many genuine protesters with rightful demands. However, the so-called facebook “Revolutionists”, along with their filthy Arab media are engaging in dishonest, unethical behavior. They are outright lying and spreading false, fake, and fabricated information. Doesn’t that take away from their credibility, in your opinion? If they were genuine, why would they need to lie? What’s the purpose of spreading a forged internal security memo? What’s the point of faking videos and pictures? This is not a game. We are in a serious situation that involves the fate of a country, so if these people are so nonchalant about such disgraceful methods, why should I ever trust them or support them in their war against the regime?

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April 14th, 2011, 2:19 pm

 

89. Mina said:

Socialist policy or not, could the enlightened Syrian opponents abroad explain to their agitated brothers (or rather the agitating ones) that there is a major economic crisis in the world and a catastrophe in Japan that is already worse than Chernobyl, so that a better economy for Syria in the near future is simply impossible ? If they can wait a little, that should be just the time needed to build real hostels and hotels and be able to have a good tourism in ten or twenty years, when the levels of contamination of products coming from Japan and food coming from a very big area around Japan will start to be safe again.

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April 14th, 2011, 2:24 pm

 

90. majedkhaldoon said:

Haytham Manna3 said people should not arm themself,He believes that the revolution in Egypt and Tunis are similar to Syria, Dr. Tizini said it may be that the regime impose on us to get arms.
I strongly believe that the syrian must arm themselves,why?
Look at HA he is fully armed,It is his arming that helped him defeat Isreal,In Iraq,Iraqee resistant,armed themselves,it is what helped to force USA to think about leaving Iraq,and the armed Libyan who is resisting Gaddafi.
I see double standard calling For HA to arm and denying Syrian to arm,Arming people defend freedom.
I am proud of the Syrian revolution ,in 1925, they carried arms and forced France to withdraw.
Those who nare supporting the regime , do not want the people to arm so they continue to kill Syrian calling for freedom,continue to deceive people by their lies
This is not a temporary uprising, this is serious change, it is about time understand it this way.

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April 14th, 2011, 2:39 pm

 

91. gk said:

The talking points of the Syrian Regime!
1. The demonstrators (terrorists and العابيثين بالامن
) are outsiders supported by Harriri, Mossad and the US in addition to Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf countries!

2. They say that they are peaceful but they are snipering and killing innocent people (look at the videos)

3. If you want to change the regime, chaos, killing and ethnic cleansing will be all over the country. Do you want peaceful Syria to become another Lebanon, Iraq or Libya?

4. All media except us are liars!!!!

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April 14th, 2011, 2:55 pm

 

92. Atassi said:

Nour,
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I don’t know The“Revolutionists” identity. BUT I truly know the regime, I know what they have done in the past, and what kind of despicable act it’s capable of doing now.
The people has spoken ” BASHAR OUT” We heard it loud and clear and
We need to ask ourselves, Is the regime ethical and honest? I personly believe they are NOT. We both know that the brain washing machines are working very hard at both sides, and i will only stand by and help my fellow Syrians…

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April 14th, 2011, 2:58 pm

 

93. Nour said:

Majed:

Thank you for at least being honest and declaring your support for arming Syrian groups. However, I think it’s silly to compare HA and resistance against foreign occupation to what is happening in Syria. HA and resistance groups used their arms against foreign armies and occupiers. In this case, these armed groups are shooting at and killing fellow Syrians. Killing Syrian soldiers is not in my opinion a valid way to organize a “Revolution.” Moreover, the groups that are getting the arms are not exactly groups to look up to, as they include Khaddam supporters, Refaat Assad goons, and MB thugs. Therefore, forgive me if I cannot lend my support to such a so-called “revolution.”

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April 14th, 2011, 3:07 pm

 

94. Nour said:

Atassi:

Your problem is that you want to simply topple the regime at any cost, without regard for what replaces it. Is this really a rational way to proceed? It doesn’t matter to you the type of people those “revolutionists” are? You are simply willing to take your chances only because you want to satisfy grudges you have against the regime? Do you care about the fate of the country? Is it possible that something worse could come about should the regime be toppled?

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April 14th, 2011, 3:10 pm

 

95. WHY said:

Nour

Why don’t you come clear and say that you support the government and the oppressive security forces’ murder of demonstrators, in which they were mostly peaceful. Yes they were always peaceful in the beginning but there was some property destruction AFTER the security killed tens of them. Just admit that you are a fascist who doesn’t give a damn about civil liberties and would use any excuse just to oppress the masses because for you freedom means chaos. You are no different than Mussolini..7el 3ana yah roo7 khaleek bi mashaklak bi lebnan

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April 14th, 2011, 3:12 pm

 

96. NK said:

Nour

Let’s not confuse the FB pages with actual Syrians demonstrating on the streets, I don’t expect anyone to support the FB page, I do expect everyone to support actual protesters who are being beaten, humiliated and arrested all over Syria. Let’s say Daraa and Banyas has “thugs” terrorizing and shooting, why arrest intellectuals like “Fayez Sara” ? why beat up/arrest university students in Damascus ?

Of course the fabricated videos that are being spread around take away from the FB page credibility, but so does the face confessions broadcast on State TV (remember the Egyptian spy ?), the only difference is the FB wanna-be journalists have no way of confirming the authenticity of the material they publish, whereas the State TV does. The Lebanese MP challenged the Syrian government to present their “evidence” of his involvement in what is going on in Syria to the Lebanese justice system, let’s wait and see how they will respond.

This guy have some valid points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6BpKKrD8TI&feature=player_embedded

Mina

No one expects the Syrian economy to flourish in a couple years, we do expect the policy not to be reactionary and not to reverse the economic reform Syria was undergoing, we tried socialism for 30 years, it didn’t work so well !!! Still I’d love to hear what Ehsani has to say.

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April 14th, 2011, 3:13 pm

 

97. Shami said:

Nour,
Khaddam is one of hafez asad dinosaurus and Rifaat is Maher Asad.
Bashar is good for you because he is SSNP as are the Makhlufs…who are the most corrupt people you can have.
So plz tell what you think about the many Makhlufs and Asads who control the government.

Ehsani are you naive,as if the ministers in Syria have guenine power of decision making.
Remember what happened to Dr Rifai:
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:20034416~menuPK:34466~pagePK:34370~piPK:34424~theSitePK:4607,00.html

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April 14th, 2011, 3:24 pm

 

98. Nour said:

WHY:

Take it easy and calm down. These trendy terms such as “fascist”, “civil liberties,” “freedom”, etc. are meaningless if they are not properly defined and applied correctly. Fascism is an ideology of political nationalism, and I definitely don’t subscribe to it. As for Liberties and Freedom, I support them within their proper definition and not as mere slogans to use in order to incite people and agitate them irresponsibly.

In any case, if you read my previous posts, you would know that I do not support the regime, nor do I deny that it is a repressive, oppressive regime. However, I explained that I do not believe that satisfying grudges and settling scores is a way to proceed for the betterment of Syria. I also most definitely absolutely oppose chaos, instability, and the use of vulgar sectarianism to incite people to violence.

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April 14th, 2011, 3:27 pm

 

99. Majhool said:

الرئيس الأسد يقرر الإفراج عن الموقوفين على خلفية الأحداث الأخيرة ممن لم يرتكبوا أعمالا إجرامية

Not criminals yet got tortured

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April 14th, 2011, 3:34 pm

 

100. marwan alshaer said:

i am not surprised that some syrians, and non-syrians alike, are denying the obvious: yes there are honest pro democracy demonstrators,but there are also thugs and armed militia-terror groups. there is no excuse for burning buildings, destroying property or shooting at people and security/army officers, this is why this movement will probably fail in its goal to topple the regime,but i certainly hope that the blood of innocent syrians from all sides is the price we have to pay for freedom and prosperity.
as for Bashar, his regime can not survive without major changes from the top down and albaath has no choice but to share power or be forced out, and I strongly believe that Bashar may not, and probably should not,run for a third term. We still need the president now unless he takes a U-turn and refuses to keep his promises.

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April 14th, 2011, 3:36 pm

 

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