Where Does Jabhat al-Nusra End, and the Islamic State of Iraq & ash-Sham Begin?
Posted by Matthew Barber on Saturday, July 13th, 2013
This is the first half of a two-part examination by Aymenn al-Tamimi of the activities of and relationships between al-Qa’ida-affiliated fighter groups in Syria.
Where Does Jabhat al-Nusra End, and the Islamic State of Iraq & ash-Sham Begin?
by Aymenn Jawad al-Tamimi for Syria Comment
Since April, the al-Qa’ida-aligned jihadist front in the Syrian civil war has been mired in controversy on account of a naming dispute.
It all began when Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi—the leader of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI) (self-identified as the Islamic State in Iraq, or ISI)—announced that his organization and the Syrian Jabhat al-Nusra (JN), under the leadership of Abu Muhammad al-Jowlani, were one and the same, and were henceforth to merge under the banner of the Islamic State of Iraq and ash-Sham (ISIS).
Though acknowledging the common roots of JN and AQI, Jowlani rejected this apparently-uninvited declaration of a merger that implied a singular structure of authority. Instead, Jowlani asserted autonomy and separateness for JN from AQI, while reassuring those concerned through an affirmation of allegiance to Aymenn al-Zawahiri.
Zawahiri remained silent on the issue until June, when a purported letter from him was revealed by al-Jazeera in which he declared that JN and AQI were to remain separate, while stressing the importance of cooperation between the two entities. Baghdadi rejected this ruling, implying doubts about its authenticity, and insisted on maintaining the ISIS as a real political entity and as the definition of joint jihadi efforts in Iraq and Syria.
So much then for the controversy as it played out at the leadership level. Less explored, however, is the question of how it has worked out on the ground. In this context, Reuters journalist Mariam Karouny has purported to offer some answers. Broadly, she posits a hostile relationship between those identifying with JN and fighters under the banner of ISIS, with foreign fighters representing the latter as opposed to native Syrians for JN.
She has also cited rebel sources suggesting the possibility of a future open conflict between the ISIS and JN, with the latter working with other battalions against ISIS in a similar manner to Iraq’s Awakening Movement (Sahwa) that took on al-Qa’ida from 2007 onwards.
But how accurate is this picture?
To begin with, my own research has certainly found some truth to the idea of foreign fighters operating under the banner of the ISIS. Notably, an overview of the declared ‘martyrs’ for ISIS shows that they are overwhelmingly of foreign origin, with Saudis and Tunisians disproportionately representing their ranks. More recently, the ISIS claimed that a suicide operation in Hama was the work of an Egyptian fighter from its ranks.1
Furqan media—AQI’s official outlet—also released a video of a French fighter by the name of Abd al-Rahman al-Faransi (“Abd al-Rahman the Frenchman”) who was killed fighting under ISIS’ banner in Syria. To summarize briefly, he recounts that he had converted to Islam three years ago, speaks of the need for jihad in Bilad ash-Sham and restoring the Caliphate, while urging President François Hollande to convert to Islam and stop fighting Muslims. Incidentally, one friend of mine—Arun Kapil—says that the man’s French accent is indicative of his origins in the banlieues populated by immigrants from the Maghreb.
In any case, battalions apparently created specifically for foreign fighters appear now to be mirror fronts of the ISIS. For instance, Abu Omar ash-Shishani—the Chechen fighter who heads Jaysh al-Muhajireen—was appointed commander of northern operations in Syria for the ISIS by Baghdadi.
In this context, it should be noted that Jaysh al-Muhajireen is suspected of being behind the beheadings shown in a video that purported to depict the murder of a Catholic priest, François Murad. The video can be seen here, but caution is highly advised.
Armed rebels, possibly Jaysh al-Muhajireen, behead alleged regime sympathizers or collaborators in Syria
The claimed identification was mistaken. In fact, the beheaded victims had merely been accused of working for the regime, but the rumor that the first victim was a priest quickly spread. Though the first beheaded man was not Father Murad, men in the video refer to him as a Christian (and to the second man as “a Muslim, but a dog”), and it is believed by some that he was a priest of a different identity.
Father François Murad was killed, but in a separate incident. He was reportedly shot inside his church, an event that took place earlier.
Father François Murad
In addition to the battalions of foreign jihadists fighting for the ISIS, it is also true that in certain parts of Syria, there is clear evidence that JN and the ISIS are functioning as two separate entities. In the city of Aleppo, both groups issue separate statements with their own insignia. The ISIS in particular is set apart in Aleppo from JN and other rebel groups that have formed Shari’a committees. In the city of Deir ez-Zor, JN and ISIS are similarly separate; furthermore in Deraa, JN has very much retained its own identity, even forming in May an autonomous military council that issued its own statements while JN’s official channel—al-Manarah al-Bayḍā—went offline between April and June.
Nonetheless, separateness does not necessarily translate to hostility. At the theoretical level, one can note that ideologues on jihadi forums are encouraging the idea of friendly competition between JN and ISIS in fighting the Assad regime. That is, to not engage in internecine struggle, but to try to outdo each other in the killing of regime and Hezbollah forces.
In any event, it is apparent that in Aleppo ISIS works militarily, not only with JN but also with rebels under the banner of the ‘Free Army’—such as in the battle for Mannagh Airport. In Deir ez-Zor, responsibility for a suicide attack conducted by one Omar al-Tunisi was claimed as a joint operation between JN and ISIS.
Elsewhere in Syria, the question of whether JN and ISIS are separate groups is much more ambiguous. For example, in the rebel-held city of Raqqah and the surrounding area, it seems that the names and banners of JN and ISIS are more or less interchangeable among those ideologically aligned with al-Qa’ida.
This was most apparent during a recent round of rallies and counter-rallies in Raqqah, which were sparked when a demonstration was held featuring slogans denouncing JN for detention of rival rebels, though the location has been identified as the headquarters of ISIS in Raqqah.
In response, demonstrators holding ISIS banners, along with supporters of Ahrar ash-Sham, came out, attacking the news channel al-Arabiya for its coverage of the protests in a supposed attempt to demonize JN. More recently, it would appear that harmony between different groups in Raqqah has been restored, with a rally calling for the fall of the regime (held on the first day of Ramadan) featuring ISIS, Ahrar ash-Sham, Kurdish, and FSA flags.
In eastern towns outside of Deir ez-Zor, the distinction between JN and the ISIS has likewise become blurred.
A good case-in-point is the border town of Abu Kamal, featuring Kata’ib Junud al-Haq that identified as being affiliated with JN. By May, the group issued statements identifying itself as part of the ISIS, but on its Facebook page a photo favorable to JN was posted.
The group has since reverted to calling itself a branch of JN, but that does not translate to hostility to those who gather under the banner of the ISIS. Recently the ISIS also claimed a joint operation with JN in an attack on a regime held checkpoint—ash-Shoula—under the banner of Kata’ib Junud al-Haq.
The same problem of blurring applies at the activist level too: one can frequently find jihadis on Twitter, Facebook and forums praising JN and ISIS as if they were one.
In short, the ISIS-JN relationship as it plays out on the ground is far more complex than the tensions at the highest levels of leadership might suggest. It cannot be reduced to simple dichotomies.
If anything, examining this relationship provides a textbook case of the fragmented nature of rebel groups. This should not translate into the wholesale discounting of the possibility of a wider conflict between the ISIS and JN or other rebel factions (in some places it is already happening, as I will show in a subsequent post), but one needs to be cautious of a narrative of a grand ideological clash reminiscent of the Iraq Awakening (Sahwa). Such a narrative is more a case of a few sources telling Western audiences what they think Westerners want to hear.
Even so, the concept of a ‘Sahwa’ movement in Syria is undoubtedly something jihadis worry about, and one sees in their reports a tendency to characterize any prospect of armed clashes with another battalion as a case of the rival group transforming into a ‘Sahwa’ organization dedicated to fighting al-Qa’ida.
As for future prospects for the ISIS in particular, the group is likely to remain a reality on the ground. The foremost problem for those who would prefer an AQI-JN separation is that Zawahiri did not make clear the abrogation of ISIS by means of a video statement, but instead appears to have relied on a letter meant entirely for internal circulation, leaving significant doubts among those in favor of retaining ISIS as to the authenticity of the Zawahiri statement in June. Unless he reaffirms this position by means of a video, ISIS will continue to expand throughout Syria.
Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi (Twitter: @ajaltamimi) is a student at Brasenose College, Oxford University, and a Shillman-Ginsburg Fellow at the Middle East Forum. He writes a column for Aaron Zelin’s site Jihadology dedicated to tracking the JN-ISIS relationship on the ground: http://jihadology.net/musings-of-an-iraqi-brasenostril-on-jihad/
Note
1 The primary limitation to my method of analysis of the composition of the ISIS—namely, by looking at claimed ‘martyrs’ for the group—is that the deaths are self-reported, and sources may have reasons to downplay the presence of fighters from certain backgrounds. This is particularly true of Iraqi fighters, as Aaron Zelin has pointed out.
One might get the impression that the ISIS is solely composed of foreign fighters, but two points should be made. First, I would emphasize that the ISIS cannot be regarded as a group that enjoys no support from Syrians on the ground.
Second, as regards fighters, one notable exception has recently emerged. Namely, the assistant to the ISIS’ amir for northern operations is Syrian—one Abu Muṣ’ab as-Sūrī who even has relatives fighting under the banner of JN. In a recent interview, he made clear that while there is a disagreement at the leadership level over the ISIS/JN affiliation, he does not see a looming conflict between the two groups, and notes that many ‘muhajireen’ also rejected the announcement of the ISIS.
Comments (398)
jo6pac said:
So I think this meant that the paid heart eating thugs don’t like the so called fsa so while shooting at Syrian army they’re shooting at one another and citizens of Syria. WOW this going well and please once the winner is declared Amerika will move on to Tehran and will not care what so ever what happens to the Syrian people because that’s what we do best besides creating refuges. How sad and as Amerikan I’m sorry but I can’t control my nation.
July 13th, 2013, 3:37 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Jo6pac,
You seem to be focused on Amerika like everyone else. Tell us, what is your opinion of the thousands of Iranian and Hezbollah troops that are in Syria, right now, fighting for Assad?
July 13th, 2013, 4:53 pm
Ziad said:
Interesting historical reading
صيف سوري حار
لا أقصد هذا الصيف تحديدا ولا سورية الحالية بل سوريا الطبيعية والصيف الذي مر عليها ولا يزال عبر التاريخ ولا سيما المحطات التالية:
1- اجتياح سوريا من قبل تيمورلنك والتتار بعد اجتياحهم لبغداد، وانقسام أهل الشام حول هؤلاء الغزاة بين متعاون معهم وبين مقاوم لهم.
وسبق أن أشرت إلى ذلك في مقال عن مسرحية سعدالله ونوس (منمنمات تاريخية)، فإذا كان ابن العلقمي قد سهل احتلال بغداد، فقد ظهر في دمشق عشرات العلاقمة، وقد عالج ونوس أيضا الظاهرة العلقمية في مسرحية أخرى هي رأس المملوك جابر.
2- اجتياح سوريا من قبل برابرة آخرين هم الأتراك العثمانيون بعد معركة مرج دابق في صيف 1516 ، وقيام السلطان العثماني سليم الأول (نموذج اردوغان) باستباحة دمشق وحلب لرجاله بعد خيانة عدد من أعيان المدينتين.
وقد أعقبت تلك المعركة عدة قرون من الظلام والتخلف والاستبداد العثماني.
3- بعد الغزو المغولي والعثماني، جاء دور الغزو الفرنسي، الذي بدأ عمليا عبر ما عرف بمؤتمر باريس والذي عقد في صيف 1913 بتدبير من المخابرات الفرنسية، وتحت شعار من أجل دولة سورية ديمقراطية.
وقد كرس المؤرخ “وجيه كوثراني” كتابا خاصا لهذا المؤتمر مدعما بوثائق عن علاقة عدد من المثقفين والسياسيين وشيوخ الدين بالمخابرات الفرنسية.
وبعد صيف 1920 وهزيمة أحرار سوريا في معركة ميسلون أمام الجيش الفرنسي، وبدلا من الدولة الديمقراطية الموعودة قام الاستعمار الفرنسي بتمزيق سوريا إلى ثلاثة كيانات طائفية (سنة وعلويون ومسيحيون)، وألغى العلم السوري (علم الأردن الحالي)، واستبدله بعلم يرمز إلى الكيانات الطائفية المذكورة الذي يضم ثلاث نجمات حمر، وهو العلم الذي اعتمدته المعارضة السورية الخارجية.
4- واستكمالا لهذا الصيف الاستعماري الفرنسي قامت فرنسا في صيف 1939 بسلخ لواء الاسكندرون السوري وأعطته لتركيا، كما قامت في صيف آخر هو صيف 1945 بقصف دمشق بالطائرات والمدفعية، ولا يزال أحد أحياء دمشق يعرف حتى الآن بحي الحريقة.
5- وقبل أن تعرف سورية الغزو الوهابي في صيف 2011، فقد تعرضت لهذا الغزو عدة مرات قبل ذلك، الأولى عام 1804 عندما تمكنت الموجات الوهابية من التسلل إلى حمص والقصير، كما في مرات أخرى بين الأعوام 1920-1930، وتضافرت القبائل الأردنية والسورية لرد هذه الموجات وهزيمتها.
6- ومن محطات الصيف السوري الحار العدوان الصهيوني وغاراته على الجيش السوري في حزيران 1967 وحزيران 1982.
http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_articles&aid=105&Itemid=5&task=displayarticle
July 13th, 2013, 5:04 pm
Citizen said:
Israel nervous about resurgent Russia in ME
http://presstv.com/detail/2013/07/13/313653/israel-nervous-about-resurgent-russia-in-me/
July 13th, 2013, 5:06 pm
omen said:
ha, i was about to welcome aymenn to the forum.
July 13th, 2013, 5:12 pm
omen said:
now about this matter:
it is unfathomable to me that if this is accurate, state tv would have failed to cover his funeral with wall-to-wall coverage.
it would have been a PR bonanza. they would have exploited this to the hilt with screaming headlines: REBELS SLAUGHTER PRIEST!!!
where is the videotape of his funeral?
that footballer killed in the stadium via rebel shelling – even i managed to catch his funeral via footage aired by deutsche welle.
loyalists on the ground failed to document the funeral via cell phone camera? what are the odds of that when they are so eager to pounce on anything that makes the opposition look bad?
July 13th, 2013, 5:21 pm
revenire said:
I don’t know the details but have to say I am REALLY HAPPY to see Al-Qaeda and the FSA fighting each other.
July 13th, 2013, 5:23 pm
Citizen said:
war against Russia?
Hmmmm ! this situation so dangerous; the possibility that the US government will resort to a nuclear attack ?? Hmmmm it is more more and more dangerous ! actually it will be the end !
Russia invincible! It can turn all over on back legs up!!pray for yourselves!
July 13th, 2013, 5:50 pm
jo6pac said:
2. Akbar Palace said:
I have no problem at all with them joining the fight, they do work together in the region so I’m not surprised they showed up at all. It’s strange when Amerika and others complain about this but make no mention of hired guns coming from about 8 nations and arms coming from Libya against UN rules.
I do read your site also like to have as many different opinions as possible. In fact I don’t live far from Turkey Tech and not the country.
July 13th, 2013, 6:00 pm
Citizen said:
Camille Otrakji
http://youtu.be/acLwAGlcUKI?t=38s
July 13th, 2013, 6:28 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Jo6pac,
If you don’t care about foreign fighters in Syria, what is your beef with the US?
July 13th, 2013, 6:40 pm
Citizen said:
@StephenWalt
Useful lessons for naive liberal interventionists: the sorry record of past US meddling in Syria
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/washingtons-long-history-syria-8717
July 13th, 2013, 7:01 pm
jo6pac said:
11. Akbar Palace said:
It’s easy I’m tired of being lied to by those that think the Amerikan public is too stupid to understand what best for us on Main Street Amerika. The powers to be have worked hard at dumbing down Amerika citizens to except what govt. says goes even if against the law. It’s for me started in the 60s about Nam just keeps going on today, all we have to do is look at the info coming from Snowden and other whistleblowers about nsa and every other 3 letter govt. clown group. This nation is just one more so called terrorist attack away from fascism and the citizens of this once great nation don’t deserve that.
If you have a chance check out these about the late General Smedley Butler or Edward Bernays
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
There will be no test or credit for extra work.
Have a great weekend
July 13th, 2013, 7:04 pm
Citizen said:
Syria’s Christians are deliberately targeted in a religious purification campaign – one that the United States government finds convenient to overlook as it supports Syria’s rebels and praises Saudi Arabia as one of our “closest partners.”
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/fr-fadi-haddad.jpg
July 13th, 2013, 7:15 pm
Akbar Palace said:
“It’s easy I’m tired of being lied to by those that think the Amerikan public is too stupid to understand what best for us on Main Street Amerika.”
Jo6pac,
So you don’t care about foreign fighters, you just don’t like being “lied to” by the US government who is telling us what is “best for us on Main Street Amerika”?
Please give us a list of the top 5 “lies” and what is “best for us”.
July 13th, 2013, 7:33 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Persia is safe from Israel and US as long as Assad is fighting Syrians,Persia would like to keep the war in Syria,to delay Israel and US attack.
Persia is counting on the US would not be willing to open another front
July 13th, 2013, 8:26 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
OMEN
The answer to your question on the previous thread regarding Joshual Landis’ is YES, i was referring to the facebook discussion.
July 13th, 2013, 8:30 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Hav you visited Ceaușescu’s grave lately?
Have you given your kim jung un prayers this afternoon?
is 7afer up from the dead?
And where is your proof that I:
1. Supported erdoghan in supressing turkish protesteres
2. Presented non-existing resolution.
July 13th, 2013, 8:38 pm
Juergen said:
Krak de Chevaliers was hit by the Assad air force. A country which destroys its past wont have much of a future.
July 13th, 2013, 11:08 pm
Akbar Palace said:
“A country which destroys its past wont have much of a future.”
Smartest statement I’ve read all day…
July 13th, 2013, 11:27 pm
don said:
Don’t you love it when the fabricated “opposition” is defended exclusively by a bunch of Israelis on this board!
What a joke!
July 14th, 2013, 12:10 am
jo6pac said:
15. Akbar Palace said:
20. Akbar Palace said
I’m not sure why you would ask #15 if you would have taken the time at the links. Then you put up #20 and wonder why? Please have a nice weekend.
July 14th, 2013, 12:13 am
Syrian said:
Syrian air strike damages 12th-century castle of the crusades
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syrian-air-strike-damages-12thcentury-castle-of-the-crusades-8707531.html
July 14th, 2013, 12:16 am
Syrian said:
-1-
قلت لكم مرارا
إن الطوابير التي تمر ..
في استعراض عيد الفطر والجلاءْ .
(فتهتف النساء في النوافذ انبهارا)
لا تصنع انتصارا.
إن المدافع التي تصطف على الحدود , في الصحاري
لا تطلق النيران .. إلا حين تستدير للوراء .
إن الرصاصة التي ندفع فيها .. ثمن الكسرة والدواء :
لا تقتل الأعداء
لكنها تقتلنا .. إذا ما رفعنا صوتنا جهارا
تقتلنا , وتقتل الصغارا
-2-
قلت لكم في السنة البعيدة
عن خطر الجنديّ
عن قلبه الأعمى , وعن همته القعيدة
يحرس من يمنحه راتبه الشهريّ
وزيه الرسميّ
ليٌرْهبَ الخصومُ بالجعجعة الجوفاء
والقعقعة الشديدة
لكنه .. إن يحن الموت ..
فداء الوطن المقهور والعقيدة :
فرَّ من الميدانْ
وحاصر السلطانْ
واغتصب الكرسيّ
وأعلن (( الثورة )) في المذياع والجريدة !
-3-
قلت لكم كثيرا
إن كان لابد من هذه الذريّة اللعينة
فليسكنوا الخنادقَ الحصينةْ
(متخذين من مخافر الحدود .. دورا )
لو دخل الواحدُ منهم هذه المدينة :
يدخلها .. حسيرا
يلقي سلاحه .. على أبوابها الأمينة
لأنه .. لا يستقيم مَرَحُ الطفل ..
وحكمة الأب الرزينة
مع المُسدّس المدلّى من حزام الخصر ..
في السوق
وفي مجالس الشورى
********
قلت لكم ..
لكنكم ..
لم تسمعوا هذا العبثْ
ففاضت النارُ على المخّيماتْ
وفاضت .. الجثثْ !
وفاضت الخُوذاتُ والمدرَّعات
أمل دنقل 1970
http://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/on-egypt/
July 14th, 2013, 12:19 am
don said:
22. jo6pac… Some people just can’t take a hint!
July 14th, 2013, 12:26 am
Observer said:
Haaretz is also reporting that US sources identify Israel as behind the Latakia attacks.
It also states that Assad is going to find difficult not to respond.
Oh I am holding my breath for the drum of a Foreign Minister or J’amuse Jaffari statements and protestations. Oh how i wish he were to Scud Tel Aviv.
Break the siege my foot.
One final note, if the Russian weapons that the regime is using are any indication they are an indication that they are obsolete as the SAA air force is so ill trained that it cannot avoid bombing the Crack des Chevaliers. Russia where are your precision weapons. SAA where are your crack troops to take the fort without damaging it.
Jaish abou Shahata indeed.
July 14th, 2013, 12:37 am
Ziad said:
حلب بستان القصر هجوم شبيحة المعبر على المتظاهرين وتفريقها بالرصاص وضرب احدى الحرائر
July 14th, 2013, 1:18 am
Citizen said:
/Jaish abou Shahata indeed./
All this number of countries participated during the two and a half years to defeat this army, and they could not even Israel did not say these words! Clueless!!
July 14th, 2013, 3:46 am
omen said:
wanted to bump this. she posted late, think it got missed.
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July 14th, 2013, 3:54 am
Mina said:
Sounds like a hoax but Malbrunot is usually well-informed
Qatar refuses entry to Western passport holders with Syrian origins
http://blog.lefigaro.fr/malbrunot/2013/07/des-francais-dorigine-syrienne.html
Au moins trois Français d’origine syrienne ont été refoulés à l’aéroport de Doha au Qatar depuis une dizaine de jours.
« Ah vous êtes d’origine syrienne ! », s’est exclamé un responsable du service de l’immigration à l’un d’eux Hassan, un homme d’affaires né en Syrie il y a 64 ans et ressortissant français depuis près de 40 ans qui a dû faire demi tour, hier matin lundi, à son arrivée à Doha, où il accompagnait une entreprise française venue prospecter le marché qatarien.
Après une attente de quelques heures, Hassan a repris l’avion pour Paris. « Je suis d’autant plus surpris que je viens au Qatar très régulièrement et j’ai même eu une résidence à Doha pendant cinq ans », confie-t-il à son retour en France, toujours sous le coup de l’incompréhension face à une telle décision.
Selon un représentant de Qatar Airways, « cela fait dix jours, qu’un ordre a été donné » de refouler les ressortissants étrangers d’origine syrienne qui arrivent au Qatar. Hier matin, trois Américains et un Britannique d’origine syrienne ont également été interdits d’entrée à l’aéroport de Doha. (…)
July 14th, 2013, 4:18 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
The world is awed at the bravery athad slipper army
* Picture above is from Darayya suburb of Damascus showing athad soldiers doing what they do best… robbing people. Seems that it is no longer an issue of plastic bags issued to nus-lira thugs and athad thugs to steal the content of Syrian homes, now the provide a whole truck of these thugs to load the loot.
Thus, one would have to congratulate @28 for being brave, truthful, and an independent thinker in describing the heroism of athad slipper army,.. one wonders where did such fearsome proud independence of thought come from
July 14th, 2013, 4:27 am
Juergen said:
without the work of free lance journalists, the tragedy and the stories of this war would not be heard.
Woman’s work
The twisted reality of an Italian freelancer in Syria
“People have this romantic image of the freelancer as a journalist who’s exchanged the certainty of a regular salary for the freedom to cover the stories she is most fascinated by. But we aren’t free at all; it’s just the opposite. The truth is that the only job opportunity I have today is staying in Syria, where nobody else wants to stay. And it’s not even Aleppo, to be precise; it’s the frontline. Because the editors back in Italy only ask us for the blood, the bang-bang. I write about the Islamists and their network of social services, the roots of their power—a piece that is definitely more complex to build than a frontline piece. I strive to explain, not just to move, to touch, and I am answered with: “What’s this? Six thousand words and nobody died?”
“Because Syria is no longer Syria. It is a nuthouse.”
http://www.cjr.org/feature/womans_work.php?page=all
July 14th, 2013, 4:45 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Recall This is what the assad mafia regime is all about and it is exactly what is being defended by the d-p athad bootlickers everywhere.
* Photo is in the aftermath of the massacre in Banyas, which was committed by forces loyal to the assad regime
July 14th, 2013, 4:47 am
habib said:
It’s over, folks. Without direct western intervention now, the “revolution” will die. I’d imagine even the most diehard Nusraites here would agree.
July 14th, 2013, 7:38 am
Citizen said:
bloody photos done and used by perpetrators!
July 14th, 2013, 7:43 am
Citizen said:
This investigative report by PressTV’s “In Focus” reporter Serena Shim tries to uncover the pivotal role that the Turkish government is playing in the armed terrorist uprising against the Syrian government and its people. From opening its borders so Sunni hardline religious extremists from all over the world can illegally cross into Syria, to supplying them with weapons, funding, food, and shelter, Turkey’s Erdogan-led government has been acting as a rogue state, a state-sponsor of terror in every sense of the word.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=365_1373746605
July 14th, 2013, 7:54 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Too much Vodak?
What a weird universe the d-p athad propagandists live in, not even Orwell could imagine such inhuman capacity for self deception.
Recalling that travelling salesperson propagandist once called the massacre of Banyas “Hardly a Massacre” in an attempt to whitewash the regime’s criminality and filth. Wonder what Mr. Vodak thinks about that confession. But again, all is expected from d-p athad bootlickers”
July 14th, 2013, 8:08 am
Citizen said:
Retsmah Nairys ! بالمقلوب
I intended not to identify the perpetrators! You indicate that the perpetrators are yours!
زياد الرحباني : الاموال التي صرفت على “ثوار” سوريا تكفي لتعليم البقر البلاغة و الرقص و عزف البيانو.
July 14th, 2013, 8:14 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Omen
Thank you,there is no accurate figure,but Alawis are certainly less than 12%
July 14th, 2013, 8:16 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Retsmah Nairys ! بالمقلوب
Brilliant denial of my existence. Just Brilliant. No wonder the buffoon d-p athad is “popular” around these woods.
But the answer remains lame.
July 14th, 2013, 8:20 am
Citizen said:
هكذا يقضي مرسي أيامه في إقامته الجبرية
http://www.sma-syria.com/component/content/article/105-2012-06-23-13-06-16/7642-2013-07-14-10-00-29.html
يعتبر نفسه في رحلة استجمام ويدرك أنه عائد الى منصبه قريباً ويتعامل مع طاقم الحراسة على اعتبار أنه الرئيس وغير مقتنع بثورة 30 يونيو” هكذا هو حال الرئيس المصري محمد مرسي في سجنه منذ تاريخ الثالث من شهر تموز الجاري.
مرسي وحسب تقارير اعلامية لازال يواصل استقبال بعض الشخصيات المهمة، بينها حتى السفيرة الأمريكية حسب ما قالته قناة روسيا اليوم!…….
July 14th, 2013, 8:45 am
Citizen said:
هون يا هامستر قال فيك كميل كل الكلام اللي لازم ينقال ! يا بياع صور الدم و قناني الفودكا !
Camille Otrakji
http://youtu.be/acLwAGlcUKI?t=38s
July 14th, 2013, 8:51 am
Akbar Palace said:
“I’m not sure why you would ask #15 if you would have taken the time at the links.”
Jo6pac,
I asked my questions because I would like to read your answers instead of making assumptions from links. IOW, “dialogue”. I can’t force you to respond, so if you decide to avoid answering my question, I would have assume that you aren’t sincere about these perceived “lies” and “what is best for us on Main Street Amerika”.
July 14th, 2013, 8:52 am
Citizen said:
The same neocons who brought us the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan are advocating war in Syria, yet the U.S. itself is responsible for a lot of the death and chaos in the region. They’re trying to convince Christians to support war based partly on the fact that Christians are being killed there. Yet the U.S. government is contributing to chaos and unrest in the region, admittedly funding the very “rebels” and groups who are killing Christians. In addition, the highest ranking Catholic Patriarch in Syria has condemned the lies and hypocrisy of the U.S. in Syria, stating that Western nations “bear responsibility for what is happening in Syria” and that “Christians in the Middle East have been not only abandoned, but we have been lied to and betrayed by Western nations, like the United States and the European Union.
Obama emphasizes U.S. commitment to Syrian rebels in Saudi call
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/12/us-syria-crisis-obama-idUSBRE96B12R20130712
July 14th, 2013, 9:05 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Reverting to the handler?
July 14th, 2013, 9:27 am
Citizen said:
That hated frequent aggression by foreign countries against Syria is a appointed crime and the aggressor must pay its value!
July 14th, 2013, 9:30 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
appointed crime? how different is that from “elected crime”?
and is that related to the genius “assad is popular” fake statistics and fraudulent bell-curves?
oops, i forgot bubble graphs, pie-charts, and fancy tabulations.
July 14th, 2013, 9:33 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Like your handler, you refuse to condemn the criminal who shed the blood and go bitching about those who expose the crime. Pathetic, really pathetic. Go tell your handler that.
July 14th, 2013, 9:40 am
Citizen said:
Syrian gangster ! advice you!
National creativity improves the patency of political slogans.
http://www.x-top.org/images/prikol/2009/04/27/49f5d301487c6.jpg
July 14th, 2013, 9:41 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
I’ll give you a merciful comment #50, it will turn the comment page and your performance will be hidden forever in the obscurity that has befallen your handler. You’r on your own and I will not help you embarrass yourself.
Somehow I get the feeling that I am debating a teenager
July 14th, 2013, 9:52 am
Akbar Palace said:
Syrian Hamster,
It’s obvious to me that regime supporters believe arabs don’t deserve basic human rights like freedom of speech and free elections. They only want it for other countries.
July 14th, 2013, 10:12 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
AKBAR,
You are absolutely correct. But it is not that they want democracy for other countries, they see themselves as the guardians of a global resistance movement born and bred in conspiracy theories, and complex mental tricks exceeding even the imagination of Orwell’s horrific vision .
There are those who just can’t handle responsible freedom, you will see them everywhere hooting for dictators and strongmen. It is a sociopolitical disease where irony does not mean a thing. Hate MBs but love The Hamas. Claim to despise fundamentalism, but support one of the most regressive fundamentalist states in the work (Iran), cry about war, and yet support carpet bombing and lobbing missiles at Syrian cities, including the ultimate insult to everyone’s intelligence played by master mental acrobat Otrakji, go for dialogue but keep the army and security in the hand of the thug assad who has used these two specific instruments of state to destroy the country, turn its people int refugees, and murder more than 100,000 of them while torturing hundreds of thousands more, how demented one can get?
July 14th, 2013, 10:30 am
Citizen said:
S.H.
Why do you insist on arguing teenagers?
I have already messeged you
Find another buddy! I do not want to talk with you about anything!
July 14th, 2013, 10:47 am
Citizen said:
Israeli submarine responsible for July attack on Syrian arms depot – report
http://rt.com/news/israeli-submarine-%20strike-syria-081/
***
Great speech from Imran Hosein! The most important thing is Unity of Muslims and Christians as this is the ultimate way to peace! However, the Wahhabi and Ottaman Empire are 2 opposite things! The Wahhabis(fake Muslims) took full control of Saudi Arabia near the same time the Ottoman Empire was destroyed! The same forces that placed the Wahhabis(salafis) into power in Arabia are the same forces that destroyed the Ottoman Empire!
http://youtu.be/qPHh3_oJeP8
July 14th, 2013, 11:10 am
Ziad said:
Expect closing of girls’ schools and violence on school girls
Pakistan Taliban set up camps in Syria, join anti-Assad war
The Pakistani Taliban have set up camps and sent hundreds of men to Syria to fight alongside rebels opposed to President Bashar al-Assad, militants said on Sunday, in a strategy aimed at cementing ties with al-Qaeda’s central leadership.
More than two years since the start of the anti-Assad rebellion, Syria has become a magnet for foreign Sunni fighters who have flocked to the Middle Eastern nation to join what they see as a holy war against Shiite oppressors.
Operating alongside militant groups such as the al-Nusra Front, described by the United States as a branch of al-Qaeda, they mainly come from nearby countries such as Libya and Tunisia riven by similar conflict as a result of the Arab Spring.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/07/14/Pakistan-Taliban-set-up-camps-in-Syria-join-anti-Assad-war.html
July 14th, 2013, 11:22 am
Ziad said:
Never again? really? never?
https://twitter.com/ResistanceAxis/status/356398697430519809/photo/1
July 14th, 2013, 11:51 am
Ziad said:
The People of Aleppo React to Siege by the FSA
July 14th, 2013, 11:54 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Response to Camille Otraqji
I will make it brief as possible
– You claim Israel is with the rebels, it is a lie, Israel attack was against arming HA, it never helped the rebels.
– You deny that the regime is sectarian , this is stupid lie, the regime is 100% sectarian,the army officers are 90% alawis 90% of death are Sunni
– You call us to respect the truth, it is you who does not respect the will of the majority of Syrians.
-Did you forget that Assad conspired with USA and sent troops to fight along with US troops to fight Saddam?
– All your defense of Bashar is practically worship Bashar.
-You said you hate Al Baath, it is a lie you wrote several comments defending Al Baath.
-You always belittle the brutality and criminalities of Assad and his regime.
– Assad surrender of Jolan is not silly, may I remind you thyat Assad killed the officer who entered in to Israel and was close to Haifa?
The revolution was never against the foreign policy of Syria, it was a revolution for freedom dignity and justice, but the man you worship is against freedom and justice and only he cares about his chair.
– Alex you accuse and accuse and make your own judgements that are very silly.
– Assad deprived the people of Homs of food and medice,but your denial is a lie,
– the money Assad spent on this war was 16 billion, The reserve dropped from 18 to two billions, you say the rebels got five billion this is nothing compare to Assad spending on this killing
– Who is destroying Syria with bombs with aircrafts and missles, it is Assad.
– Chemical weapons were proven to have been used by Assad, the claim that rebels used chemical weapons is a lie and unproven.
– You made assumptions and conclusions that are inaccurate, go back and try to be honest.
– Assad could have accepted the dialogue long time ago, but after committing so many crimes political solution is dead.
– It is Assad who is responsible for the increase of the number of death daily.
– You mention Jihadis, did you forgot HA mercenaries and the Iraqi millitia criminals who came to fight along Assad?
– I want to remind with the Video that Muallem used in his conference, it was you who brought that fake video, and that made your credibility is zero.
July 14th, 2013, 12:33 pm
Observer said:
Good ones Syrian Hamster
Here are the three reports today from the NYT.
I do not believe that this slipper army is making any gains whatsoever. It can only destroy loot and massacre and there is no liberation of anything or anyone. It is a racist incompetent criminal thuggish enterprise meant to exact hardship on the people.
Here we go now: the Lira is now 330 to the dollar.
They are trading in Toumans and Roubles what a joke of a garbage dump Thouria Alathad. Two years and it has not been defeated. It has been defeated repeatedly by the people of Syria from one check point to the other and from airport to the other and from one camp to the other and from many streets and villages.
It only has mass firepower and is so incompetent it cannot take but a destroyed Al Qusair and even at that with the help of HA and IRCG.
Good reading today
Syria Weighs Its Tactics as Pillars of Its Economy Continue to Crumble
By ANNE BARNARD
Syria is increasingly isolated in the face of a growing economic crisis, more reliant than ever on credit from its main remaining allies.
Iraq Says It Can’t Halt Arms to Syria
A Two-Doctor Family’s Prosperity and Routine Are Shaken by War
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
One family’s story illustrates how war, displacement and currency collapse have upended a professional class that was proportionally one of the Arab world’s largest.
Israel Airstrike Targeted Advanced Missiles That Russia Sold to Syria, U.S. Says
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
American officials said Israel carried out an air attack in Syria this month that targeted advanced antiship cruise missiles sold to the Syria government by Russia.
July 14th, 2013, 12:51 pm
revenire said:
Seems Anglo-American psyop campaign is trying to get Syria to attack Israel. There was no attack on Latakia.
LATAKIA: LOTS OF NEWS AND PROPAGANDA.
I just got off the phone with a friend in Latakia. He says no attack on any military base or arsenal took place in rural Latakia. He also says that Syria does not store its missiles in warehouses just so the Zionists can simply bomb them. Our missiles. Yakhonts, S-300s and Scuds are hidden underground or in caves along the coast of Syria. The entire story is bound to be exposed soon.
Interestingly, the only sources publishing anything about this are the “usual suspects” or the “usual gang of idiots”: Reuters, AP and the NYT. Needless to say, all sources quoted are “anonymous”. What a joke.
http://syrianperspective.blogspot.com/2013/07/first-post-july-14-2013-false-zionist.html
July 14th, 2013, 1:00 pm
Ziad said:
Consider Majed’s refutation to Otraqji’s presentation as a failed dud joke. Camille impressive presentation was well researched. He backed every utterance with documentations and references. Majed is empty headed, superficial, hateful sectarian, plagiarist, and a fabricator. The difference is as between the wheat and the chaff.
July 14th, 2013, 1:04 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad(Jad)
That was your usual silly stupid worthless opinion
July 14th, 2013, 1:10 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad
Hizbollah is no longer resistant movement, it is a mercenary group, it is a criminal entity, committed treason,
July 14th, 2013, 1:21 pm
Ziad said:
MAJEDKHALDOUN #63
This is your opinion emanating from you being a narrow-minded sectarian, brainwashed by the Wahhabi outlets Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya who also serve the interests of Zionists. This has nothing to do with reality.
July 14th, 2013, 1:27 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The number of civilian death caused by this regime far exceed .
150,000,
Ziad
It is you and all the Assad thugs killing Syrians destroying Syria who are serving the interest of Zionism
July 14th, 2013, 1:30 pm
Akbar Palace said:
You are absolutely correct. But it is not that they want democracy for other countries, they see themselves as the guardians of a global resistance movement born and bred in conspiracy theories, and complex mental tricks exceeding even the imagination of Orwell’s horrific vision.
Hamster,
Thanks. I can’t understand this weird thinking.
There are those who just can’t handle responsible freedom, you will see them everywhere hooting for dictators and strongmen. … how demented one can get?
I don’t get it. But it is encouraging that you and others refuse this mind-set. I feel as though you are part of a small minority. I don’t know.
Anyway, if you want to chat outside of the SC “wasteland”, give me a ring:
palace.akbar@gmail.com
July 14th, 2013, 1:43 pm
Ziad said:
Toxic Catch: Syria rebels’ chemical lab uncovered in Jobar near Damascus
http://rt.com/news/damascus-syria-chemical-weapons-082/
July 14th, 2013, 1:54 pm
don said:
The Syrian army has seized the momentum in the civil war over the past three months, wresting back territory lost to rebel forces and solidifying its hold over contested areas, particularly on the fringes of Damascus. Two of the embattled districts are Jobar and Qaboun, from which rebels frequently launch mortar rounds on the heart of the capital.
A Syrian military commander said forces loyal to President Bashar Assad have recaptured 60 percent of Jobar, south of Qaboun, and were trying to retake the rest. The commander talked to reporters Sunday during a military escorted tour of Jobar organized by the Information Ministry. His claim could not be independently verified.
An Associated Press reporter on the tour saw widespread destruction that pointed to heavy fighting in the neighborhood. Marble tile factories were destroyed. Reporters made their way in the devastated area by climbing through holes knocked in walls because of warnings of rebel snipers in the area.
At least two bodies, apparently those of rebel gunmen, lay on the floor of a bunker described by the official as a “terrorist” hideout.
“The army is advancing rapidly in Jobar … the area will be secured in the next few days according to a well-studied plan,” the commander said. He declined to be named in line with regulations.
Jobar is near the road linking Damascus with its eastern suburbs known as Eastern Ghouta. Rebels have been using the road to transport weapons and other supplies to the capital, the seat of Assad’s power.
The commander said the Jobar-Qaboun axis was important to “cleanse Ghouta from terrorist groups.”
During the tour of Jobar, reporters were taken to a hideout the army said it seized a day earlier after killing 30 rebels and their leader there. Reporters were shown RPG mortar rounds and explosive devices, as well as an alleged chemical material with a strong odor.
Arabic graffiti on the walls read: “The al-Tawhid Brigade,” and “the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant” – names of militant groups fighting to topple Assad.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/14/syria-violence-trapped-in-mosque-qaboun_n_3593896.html
July 14th, 2013, 2:01 pm
don said:
Victoria Nuland Answers Benghazi Questions During Senate Confirmation Hearing
Ahead of the hearing, leading Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina came out in favor of Nuland despite accusations by some in their party that she helped State Department superiors water down the now-infamous talking points used by the administration to inform Americans about the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission.
Republicans have focused on the administration’s talking points since they were used by Susan Rice, then Obama’s U.N. ambassador and now his national security adviser, for her public explanation five days after the attack. Rice blamed it on extremists hijacking a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islam video.
As the talking points were being edited, Nuland insisted on removing a reference to a CIA warning about the potential for anti-American demonstrations in Cairo and jihadists trying to break into that embassy. In emails released by the administration, she warned that such wording “could be abused” by lawmakers to criticize her department. She specifically cited the concerns of her “building’s leadership.”
“There are still some things that need to be known,” said Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who told Clinton earlier this year he would have fired her after Benghazi. Paul told The Associated Press he hoped to learn at the confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee whether weapons the assailants used in the Sept. 11 Benghazi attack had any connection to U.S. intelligence operations in Libya or Syria.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/victoria-nuland-benghazi_n_3579032.html
July 14th, 2013, 2:39 pm
revenire said:
Obama, Nuland and all the rest should be facing charges for illegal gunrunning to Syria via Libya.
July 14th, 2013, 2:43 pm
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Homs is not for Sale
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/homs-is-not-for-sale/
The Execution of FSA Com. Shaykh Mahmoud Mojaddami
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/execution-of-fsa-com-shaykh-mahmoud-mojaddami/
Assad’s War on the Shrine of the Companion Khalid Ibn al-Walid
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/assads-war-on-the-shrine-of-the-companion-khalid-ibn-al-walid/
July 14th, 2013, 3:05 pm
don said:
Let’s not forget this administrations on going training and transfer of Al-Qaida killers from Benghazi to Syria.
70. revenire said:
Obama, Nuland and all the rest should be facing charges for illegal gunrunning to Syria via Libya.
July 14th, 2013, 3:15 pm
Ziad said:
Debate on Syria
There is no debate on Syria in the US: not only in the mainstream media but even in the alternative media and among progressive media and sites. The only debate permitted is this: how tight should the sanctions on Syria be and whether arms should be provided to Syria. People who oppose the armed opposition are not even invited to the children’s table: the glamorization of a fake “revolution” continues. The flow of information about war crimes by armed groups did not even make a dent in the coverage because all media resort to the distinction between the good guys (the Fee Syrian Army gangs and their affiliates) and the bad guys (Nusrah Front) when in reality the worst war criminals have been the goons of the FSA.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 12:07
July 14th, 2013, 3:57 pm
don said:
NATO’s mercenaries are killing each others
Syria: Rival rebel factions fight in Aleppo
Western-backed opposition fighters and a faction of al-Qaeda -linked rebels turned their guns on each other Saturday in Syria’s largest city, battling for control of a key checkpoint in the latest eruption of infighting among the forces trying to topple President Bashar Assad’s regime, activists said.
The clashes between rebels affiliated with the Free Syrian Army and fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant throws a spotlight on the growing phenomenon rebel-on-rebel violence that has sapped strength from the broader anti-Assad movement.
It also underscores the rebels’ enduring inability more than two years into the conflict to unite around a unified command, as well as the deepening rift between more secular opposition fighters and Islamic extremists in the rebel ranks.
The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Saturday’s clashes were focused on the strategic checkpoint in Aleppo’s Bustan al-Qasr district that serves as the sole gateway between rebel-held eastern districts and the government-controlled areas in the west.
Earlier this week, al-Qaeda-linked terrorists seized the checkpoint and closed it for several days, cutting the flow of food supplies to the rebel-held quarters of the city. That spurred protests by residents suffering from food shortages at the start of the Muslim Holy month of Ramadan.
The Observatory said the fighting rattled the neighborhood throughout the morning, but subsided by the afternoon as the al-Qaeda-linked rebels pulled out of the area. It was not clear which group was in control of the checkpoint, where residents were staging a protest to vent their anger at soaring food prices. The area also witnessed clashes between rebels and government troops.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4404437,00.html
July 14th, 2013, 4:03 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
congratulation to Zoo and Tara
July 14th, 2013, 4:30 pm
don said:
Netanyahu is cruisin’ for bruisin’
http://www.debka.com/article/23116/US-to-media-Israel-struck-Latakia-arsenal-last-week-Will-Putin-and-Assad-make-good-on-threats-of-reprisal-
July 14th, 2013, 4:45 pm
don said:
Israel is aching to drag the world into war
Russian Military on Alert After Suspected Israeli Airstrike Destroys Russian Missiles in Syria
Tens of thousands of Russian troops have been placed on alert after a suspected Israeli airstrike destroyed advanced, Russian missiles recently delivered to Syria.
In a July 13 report from the official Russian news agency, ITAR-TASS, The Russian Defense Ministry has announced what is being described as “the most ambitious [check alert] in the history of post-Soviet test readiness.” A check alert, according to the Defense Ministry is a mobilization for exercises designed “to test the readiness of units to perform assigned tasks, and assessment of the level of training of personnel, staffing and technical readiness units and formations with arms and military equipment.” The alert, according to the ITAR-TASS report, involves more than 80,000 troops, around a thousand tanks and armored personnel carriers, some 130 aircraft and 70 naval vessels.
This massive military alert is seen as a response to the disclosure Friday to CNN, by unnamed US officials, that the destruction of the Russian missiles in Syria was a result of Israeli strikes.
http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/russian-military-on-alert-after-suspected-israeli-airstrike-destroys-russian-missiles-in-syria/
July 14th, 2013, 4:54 pm
don said:
Israel, U.S., Jordan reportedly coordinating attack on Syrian weapons
http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?q=node/109286
July 14th, 2013, 5:05 pm
don said:
Israel Stirs the Pot in Syria
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/17/israel-stirs-the-pot-in-syria/
July 14th, 2013, 5:16 pm
AMEERA said:
انا مو فهمانة ليش جاد غير اسمو لزياد؟
July 14th, 2013, 5:29 pm
AMEERA said:
شو اخي ماجد الله يسمعنا الاخبار الطيبة خير ان شالله ليش عم تبارك لزوو و تارا؟
لا تقلي المئوصة زبطت عريس من المنتدى بس مو معقول لانو تارا متزوزة و عندا بنوتة زي القمر الله يخليلا ياها يا رب
July 14th, 2013, 5:33 pm
AMEERA said:
يا جماعة الخير بنصحكن تشوفو مسلسل سنعود بعد قليل بعرف انكن ما بيطيقوه لغوار بس المسلسل بيلقط صور حقيقية مرتبة من حياتنا هون بالشام من اول ايام الازمة لما كانت الامور احسن بمليون مرة من هلأ و بويرجيكم لما الناس بلشت تطلع تعيش بيروت والبهدلة و الشرشحة و قلة الواجب من اللبنانيين الله ينتئم منون
المسلسل فيو تطبيق و تعرييص كتير والبنات اللبنانيات عليهم كسم بمزع العئل فمشان هيك تفرجوا بعد الافطار مو قبلو
July 14th, 2013, 5:42 pm
ghufran said:
it looks like some US weapons did find their way to the Syrian army,not the rebels, according to US news Today (is that what “weapons falling in the wrong hands meant? “), this comes after Lebanese sources confirmed that dual agents purchased anti tank missiles from rebel groups and sent them to Hizbullah.
I am trying to decide who is more f..ed up the regime or the opposition, it is a close call. I am just out of ideas except sending money and supplies to people in need, the country as a state is finished for the near future, all of that was done to remove a president or to keep him in power, I told you 18 months ago Arabs are losers, if they were not,this war would not have started in the first place or would have ended a long time ago.
To all war mongers from both sides:
toz feekom wabihal altafkeer yalli bikharri, stay where you are, Syria does not need you,in my case I have decided a long time ago that I can not live in Syria but at least I am not drumming for more violence and death.
Excuse my language, however, I feel a little bit better now !!
July 14th, 2013, 7:22 pm
ghufran said:
Great news for jihadists and Nikah enthusiasts:
Pakistani taliban is establishing a branch in Syria (I am not kidding).
Franchise fee for local branches has not been set yet but it is likely to be in the range of 20-25 goats or 8-10 donkeys.
July 14th, 2013, 8:09 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
اميره فجاة زوو وقف عن الكتيبة اخد اجازه,كان يكتب.٣ مره
شو توقيت البرنامج وشو اسمو
Those who supported Assad they have several monikers,so they look many, then Prof.Landis decided this is wrong so they have to delete all other monikers except one, Jad kept Ziad
July 14th, 2013, 8:40 pm
Ziad said:
PM ditches plan to arm Syrian rebels after military chief says it’s ‘hardly worth it’ unless he launches all-out war
Defence chiefs told him sending small arms or missiles is ‘hardly worth it’
Even options like a no-fly zone would require air attacks on Syrian defences
Has been keen to act on Syria, demanding an end to the EU arms embargo
Instead the Coalition is drawing up plans to help train and advise moderate elements of the opposition forces
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2363803/PM-ditches-plan-arm-Syrian-rebels-military-chief-says-hardly-worth-unless-launches-war.html
July 14th, 2013, 8:51 pm
AMEERA said:
كل مسلسلات رمضان
http://www.farfesh.com/MosalsalatRamadan2013.asp
July 14th, 2013, 8:54 pm
ghufran said:
BreakingNews (aljazeera):
the FSA has liberated Bab Al-Hara
(the shooting site of the famous TV series, outside Damascus)
next is Hammam Al-Hana or Sahh Al-noam inshallah
July 14th, 2013, 8:57 pm
Ziad said:
Syria: FSA and Al-Qaeda in Power Struggle while Hezbollah helps Muslims, Christians and the Mosaic
Syria: FSA and Al-Qaeda in Power Struggle while Hezbollah helps Muslims, Christians and the Mosaic
The Syrian armed forces continue to fight against countless different terrorist, sectarian and mercenary forces which all enjoy beheading and killing pro-Syrian government civilians. Indeed, given the criminal nature of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist groups and other terrorist organizations; then often they kill people in order to steal property or because of religious issues. Therefore, the murder of a high ranking figure within the FSA by al-Qaeda affiliates isn’t surprising because killing comes natural to both sides.
Equally embarrassing for America, France, and the United Kingdom, is that events leading to the death of Kamal Hamami (Abu Bassel al-Ladkani) confirm that the FSA and al-Qaeda are working together – even if frays are emerging based on criminality and mutual barbarity. Hamami freely met members of the al-Qaeda affiliate terrorist group called the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. This reality shows that a member of the Supreme Military Council of the FSA was planning a joint attack with al-Qaeda against the Syrian army. Alas, this confirms the lies given by President Obama of America, President Hollande of France and Prime Minister Cameron of the United Kingdom. After all, they claim that the FSA is separate from al-Qaeda groups but clearly senior figures from the FSA have praised al-Nusra and other affiliated groups to al-Qaeda.
http://moderntokyotimes.com/2013/07/12/syria-fsa-and-al-qaeda-in-power-struggle-while-hezbollah-helps-muslims-christians-and-the-mosaic/
July 14th, 2013, 8:59 pm
omen said:
ethnic cleansing & forced displacement isn’t only meant to empower alawites. sectarianism is just a tool regime is exploiting in order to secure oil routes & infrastructure. see:
July 14th, 2013, 9:05 pm
omen said:
khaldoun, so discerning. ziad’s lack of denial must mean it is jad.
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where is tara?
July 14th, 2013, 9:10 pm
Ziad said:
Omen
I don’t give a rat’s derriere what either you or Majed thinks about me, or if you believe that I am Jad. You know confusing me, a mere amateur commenter, with Jad who was an excellent commenter with very wide knowledge about the issues, and who pocessed great analytical skills has two effects. It gives me a great moral boost, and it attests to the low IQ of who is making this assertion.
July 14th, 2013, 9:24 pm
revenire said:
The UK ditches the ‘official’ arming of the rebels. Good news.
Let’s hope we’re getting toward the end of this. Enough death.
July 14th, 2013, 9:29 pm
AMEERA said:
(Enough death)
ديتتو
زا بيست كومنت يو ايفر سيد
July 14th, 2013, 9:35 pm
AMEERA said:
مسلسل سنعود بعد قليل
مسلسل سنعود بعد قليل اللبناني، قصة طارق سويد وإخراج سمير حبشي وإنتاج مروى غروب، من مسلسلات رمضان 2013.
تلعب نادين الراسي “دينا” دور ابنة الممثل دريد لحام “نجيب” في عمل يطرح الأزمة السورية بأسلوب إنسانيّ محايد من دون تبني أي وجهة نظر معينة.
وتدور احداث مسلسل سنعود بعد قليل حول دينا التي تعيش في بيروت مع عائلتها الصغيرة وتهتم وحدها بتربية طفلتها بسبب سفر زوجها الذي يعيش خارج لبنان. وتخرج معاناة “دينا” الى العلن مع وصول والدها الى بيروت قادماً من سوريا للعلاج.
يشارك في بطولة سنعود بعد قليل الى جانب الممثل دريد لحام ونادين الراسي كل من النجوم عابد فهد وقصيّ خولي وباسل خياط وسلافة معمار, ومن لبنان فيشارك النجوم كارمن لبس وتقلا شمعون وبيار داغر.
July 14th, 2013, 9:47 pm
omen said:
calm down, ziad. i was teasing. sheesh.
i don’t mind if you are or are not jad.
July 14th, 2013, 10:10 pm
Ziad said:
Omen
what gave you the impression that I am angry?
July 14th, 2013, 10:44 pm
Uzair8 said:
Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi @Shaykhabulhuda 12 Jul
Soon, new President of Egypt Mansour will issue amnesty of both Morsi and Mubarak and sets them both free
July 14th, 2013, 11:24 pm
omen said:
irony of ironies if mubarak runs for office and manages to get elected.
July 14th, 2013, 11:46 pm
omen said:
Krak de Chevaliers was hit by the Assad air force. A country which destroys its past wont have much of a future.
the people aren’t to blame. the regime are interloper mad men. they don’t represent syria. the country is trying to reject them.
July 14th, 2013, 11:51 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Omen
The only way I will believe Jad is not Ziad, if Matthew Barber say so, Ziad never told the truth, Zoo admitted he was Bronco and Why Discuss, Ziad has to tell the truth even if it was once in his life, that if he is decent
July 15th, 2013, 12:12 am
don said:
Meet Israel’s point man on Syria in Washington
Meet the 28-year-old pushing the US toward greater intervention in Syria
Born in Damascus to a Palestinian father and a Syrian mother, Moustafa and his family moved to Arkansas when he was twelve. He would attend high school in Hot Springs, become an American citizen and excel in soccer, which he says is “all I cared about” during his early college years. His Twitter handle today is @SoccerMouaz.
After college, he worked as an intern on the Hill for Arkansas Democrat Rep. Vic Snyder and later as a staffer for former Arkansas Democrat Sen. Blanche Lincoln. When Lincoln was defeated in the 2010 tea party wave, he briefly went into freelance journalism. But when the Arab Spring erupted in 2011, he found his calling.
Moustafa first worked for a group that supported the Egyptian Revolution and then as executive director of the Libyan Council of North America, which supported the Libyan Revolution. In that role, he says, he met with White House National Security Council staff, briefed congressmen and advised the Libyan ambassador to the United States when he defected.
But the revolutionary dominoes in the Middle East continued to topple — until they finally reached Syria in March 2011.
“When Syria began, it was scary, because it was much more home for me,” Moustafa said.
The Syrian Emergency Task Force is one of several organizations pushing America toward greater intervention in Syria (Moustafa himself is actually the political director of another.) As executive director of SETF, Moustafa says he leads a staff of eight in Washington and roughly an equal amount in field offices in Syria.
While Moustafa made clear he and his group are not calling for American “boots on the ground,” others argue it’s hard to rule such a scenario out if the U.S. becomes more engaged. The more involved in the fight the U.S. gets, the more responsibility it will have to assure victory, they say.
“People talk about the slippery slope like it’s a throw-away thing,” George Washington University international affairs professor Marc Lynch warned during a recent debate on Syrian policy at the Washington Institute for Near East policy. “You can’t do that. You have to think about what happens when step one doesn’t work.”
If the U.S. commits to a no-fly zone or targeted strikes, it will have crossed a red line, he argued.
“Once were cross that line, unless you can give me a clear story by which the conflict ends, then I think we are on a slippery slope that leads exactly to what everyone says they’re not talking about, which is relentless escalation,” said Lynch. “Because once you’re in, you’re in. You can’t say, ‘Oh, that didn’t work. We’re going to walk away.’”
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/14/meet-the-28-year-old-pushing-the-u-s-toward-greater-intervention-in-syria/
July 15th, 2013, 12:39 am
don said:
BREAKING NEWS!
RT source: Israeli strike on Syria was carried out from Turkish base
Israel used a Turkish military base to launch one of its recent airstrikes against Syria from the sea, a reliable source told RT. Israel has been under scrutiny since last week, when it was reported to be responsible for a July 5 depot attack in Latakia.
News that Turkey assisted Israel in attacking another Muslim state could result in serious turmoil for Ankara, once the information is confirmed.
“Our source is telling us that Israeli planes left a military base inside Turkey and approached Latakia from the sea to make sure that they stayed out of Syrian airspace so that they cannot become a legitimate target for the Syrian air force,” RT’s Paula Slier reports.
http://rt.com/news/israel-strike-syria-turkey-089/
July 15th, 2013, 12:47 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Omen
The french statistics were flawed, when they counted Alawis they included people from Hatay province, Hatay was and stil a disputed region,we Syrian believe it was part of Halab province,Turkish Kamal Ataturk,increased the turk population by calling everyone who has Syrian origin and they lived in Turkey to register as citizen of Hatay and as turk,
July 15th, 2013, 12:58 am
EA WorldView | A Window On The World said:
[…] analyses — Joshua Landis handed over his prominent “Syria Comment” site to a confused, confusing, and speculative piece about the relationship between ISIL and the “al-Qa’ida aligned” Jabhat al-Nusra […]
July 15th, 2013, 1:39 am
Badr said:
“The UK ditches the ‘official’ arming of the rebels.”
Not quite true, unless “plans to help train and advise moderate elements of the opposition forces” by the Coalition, are not regarded as a segment of the process of arming, or have not been/will not be carried out with the help of British military advisers.
July 15th, 2013, 1:56 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
The legacy of a buffoon who inherited a thug in Alqusair Homs
What the buffoon’s bootlickers call accomplishment In Aleppo
This is what d-p* athad is all about. Of course these would be lies and fake, according to master mental acrobat Otrakji. Yes, d-p is very very popular.
*d-p: abbreviation of dog-poop
July 15th, 2013, 2:41 am
SimoHurtta said:
Is Omen the former hyperactive commentator AIG (an other Israeli guy)?
Is Majedkhaldoun in reality Akbar Palace’s other pseudonym needed when expressing “deep” religious views and analyses? One thing is certain Majedkhaldoun is not Shai, who represented the more moderate Israeli Jews commenting in this blog.
Character assassination attempts by claiming a commentator being somebody else is only a proof that the claimer doesn’t have any real arguments left in his/hers arsenal. It is allowed to change the pseudonym, so there is no problem if an old commentator appears with a new pseudonym.
July 15th, 2013, 4:42 am
Akbar Palace said:
Clearing things up for Finn Sim
Sim,
Omen is not AIG and Majedkhaldoun is not me or Shai.
Omen, AIG, Majedkhaldoun, me (Akbar Palace), Syrialover, Tara, Syria Hamster, Juergen, and a lot of other posters (as well as the owners here) are all different people from different backgrounds who share one thing:
We all want this thug called D-P Bashar Assad out of Syria so Syrians can get basic human rights and elect their own leaders.
Leave it to the “great” Assad family to bring together arabs and Jews for at least a single purpose. I hope that clears things up for you.
July 15th, 2013, 7:06 am
Uzair8 said:
#103. Don
Dear Don
You appear to be contradicting Syrian Perspective, a highly regarded news and information service apparently.
Mr Rev’s not gonna be too happy.
July 15th, 2013, 7:37 am
apple_mini said:
When a state is systemically and deliberately injected and flooded with weapons to those elements holding grudges and animosity against the authority. Chaos happens. Law and order breaks down. If the state does not have sufficient strength to quell the unrest and uprising. Then you will see a civil war.
Syria is a perfect example for this kind of horrific event and progression.
It is mind-boggling how much the Syria has been going through: Almost all west countries are behind the scheme or at least taking advantage of the chaos. Billions of money was poured in from GCC. On top of large percentage of rural and poor working class Syrian Sunnis, ten of thousands of foreign fighters were paid and supported by weapons and money.
If Russia had sent weapons and money to OWS and tea party people acting as powerful backer, America would have been in bloodshed couple years ago.
We give tremendous credit to SAA and owe them a big appreciation for their sacrifice.
Syrians are suffering economically as well. Most people here who have a job do not make more than $100 a month based on the current rate.
So if any of your Syrian expats can provide hard currency to people who you can help, that is a moral thing that you can at least do.
July 15th, 2013, 8:18 am
majedkhaldoun said:
SimoHurtta said:
Is Majedkhaldoun in reality Akbar Palace’s other pseudonym needed when expressing “deep” religious views and analyses?
Simo You must be genious, Wow! I don’t believe how smart you are, you deserve noble prize, you must be from other planet, keep us updated with silly absurd comments
ASSAD IS SPENDING AT LEAST 8 BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR TO KILL sYRIANS
July 15th, 2013, 8:47 am
don said:
You are correct on both counts
107. SimoHurtta said:
Is Omen the former hyperactive commentator AIG (an other Israeli guy)?
July 15th, 2013, 9:38 am
don said:
109. Uzair8… I have a strange feeling, your beloved Israel is not going to be happy soon.
July 15th, 2013, 9:49 am
SimoHurtta said:
Is Majedkhaldoun in reality Akbar Palace’s other pseudonym needed when expressing “deep” religious views and analyses?
Simo You must be genious, Wow! I don’t believe how smart you are, you deserve noble prize, you must be from other planet, keep us updated with silly absurd comments
ASSAD IS SPENDING AT LEAST 8 BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR TO KILL sYRIANS
Well Majedkhaldoun you have rather often accused somebody being somebody else. So it is only fair to speculate who you are. Character assassination is easy by claiming somebody to be somebody else, it is instructed in the first lectures of IIPF (Israeli Internet Propaganda Forces). Stop speculating who is who, then there is no need to speculate who you could be.
How much Majedkhaldoun Saudi Arabian and other Kings are spending to make possible to eat Syrians (concretely). As from those numerous videos where bearded men are spraying the Syrian landscape with bullets and beheading Syrians prove they are not suffering from the lack of ammunition, swords and money. What is the monthly salary of there foreign “freedom fighters”? As a conclusion we could say that Saudis, USA, Israel etc use 20 billion a year to kill Syrians in the “religious” war they want to keep up. One thing is sure that they do not invest the money to create a secular democracy to Syria. A new Somalia with Taleban mentality is what they want.
July 15th, 2013, 10:31 am
Ziad said:
ZOO where are you?
If you decided to leave SC, I understand, but please do not just evaporate like what JAD did. Let us at least know where on the Internet you express your views. This site is less valuable without your comments and many of us here will miss them.
July 15th, 2013, 10:35 am
don said:
Who’s jad?
July 15th, 2013, 10:52 am
SimoHurtta said:
108. Akbar Palace said:
Clearing things up for Finn Sim
Sim,
Omen is not AIG and Majedkhaldoun is not me or Shai.
Omen, AIG, Majedkhaldoun, me (Akbar Palace), Syrialover, Tara, Syria Hamster, Juergen, and a lot of other posters (as well as the owners here) are all different people from different backgrounds who share one thing:
We all want this thug called D-P Bashar Assad out of Syria so Syrians can get basic human rights and elect their own leaders.
Of course Akbar I know that the people are different. What I wanted to show it works in two ways. If M. begins to try to undermine others by accusing them being somebody else it works also in the opposite direction.
Akbar as a former Israeli soldier you have had the opportunity to bring basic human rights and the possibility to elect their leaders to your own slave people – those millions of Palestinians living under your military boot for halve a century. What have you done for their human rights? Voting for Bibi and commenting here seems to be your contribution. When the Palestinians are free and equal you Israelis have some credibility.
I see this your combination of right-wing Israelis and Jews reinforced with extreme Sunnis lecturing here about “human rights” a bit (well honestly said much more than a bit) unconvincing.
July 15th, 2013, 10:56 am
Ziad said:
Thank you Gearoid O’Colmain for telling the truth about Syria
This is an extract from a program called “Inside Syria” by Al Jazeera. The discussion subject is “Who controls Syria’s oil?”
Watch the difference in the intellectual level, depth of knowledge, and debating skills between O’Colmain and his opponents Amr al-Azm and Anas al-Abdah.
July 15th, 2013, 11:02 am
Ziad said:
DON
JAD was a great knowledgeable and avid commenter on SC during the early days of the Syrian events. He used to irritate the hell out of the supporters of the terrorists. They used to call him all sorts of names because they could not argue with him. He left suddenly sometimes in 2012 without a trace. We have not heard from him since. His leaving made all the enemies of Syria on SC very happy.
July 15th, 2013, 11:10 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
One thing is now crystal clear. The Israelis and Turks are now openly in cahoots as the saying goes…..which goes to show that destroying Syria is priority number one for both those two DEMOCRACIES…and as reported on a non western website.
“Israel used a Turkish military base to launch one of its recent airstrikes against Syria from the sea, a reliable source told RT. Israel has been under scrutiny since last week, when it was reported to be responsible for a July 5 depot attack in Latakia.”
July 15th, 2013, 11:19 am
don said:
119. Ziad… How can we convince him to come back?
July 15th, 2013, 11:21 am
Ziad said:
DON
I don’t know how to get in touch with him. I put several messages here on SC asking him to reconsider. I hope we will not lose ZOO the same way.
July 15th, 2013, 11:26 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Breaking the Siege of Aleppo
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/breaking-the-siege-of-aleppo/
July 15th, 2013, 11:40 am
Ziad said:
Good news HAMOUDEH. Thanx
July 15th, 2013, 11:55 am
apple_mini said:
We frequent a cafe in the Christian neighborhood close to Jobar. Something has changed today. We no longer hear shooting, shelling or any other “action”. During the last month, it was normal to see thick cloud of smoke billowing in the area.
Yesterday, the regime was confident enough to arrange a tour for international press after SAA achieved final and decisive gains in Jobar.
I have to say the mood here on the street is getting more relaxed.
If political solutions are not within reach at the moment. This kind of outcome will be more than acceptable.
July 15th, 2013, 11:59 am
don said:
Is Obama Trying to Start Israel-Syria War?
s the Obama administration trying to start a war between Israel and Syria? Because intentionally or not, it’s certainly doing its darnedest to provoke one.
This weekend, three anonymous American officials told CNN that Israel was behind an explosion in the Syrian port of Latakia on July 5. The explosion, they said, resulted from an airstrike targeting Russian-made Yakhont anti-ship missiles. If this report is true, this is the second time U.S. officials have blown Israel’s cover in Syria: They also told the media that a mysterious explosion in Syria this April was Israel’s work, even as Israel was scrupulously keeping mum–just as it did about the Latakia incident.
This isn’t a minor issue, as anyone who knows anything about the Middle East knows: In a region where preserving face is considered crucial, publicly humiliating Syrian President Bashar Assad is the surest way to make him feel he has no choice but to respond, even though war with Israel is the last thing he needs while embroiled in a civil war at home.
This truth was amply demonstrated in April, after three airstrikes attributed to Israel hit Syria within a few weeks. After the first two, Israel kept mum while Assad blamed the rebels; face was preserved, and everyone was happy. But then, the Obama administration told the media that Israel was behind the second strike–and when the third strike hit two days later, Assad could no longer ignore it: He vociferously threatened retaliation should Israel dare strike again.
The Latakia attack also initially adhered to Israel’s time-tested method for avoiding retaliation: Israel kept mum, Assad blamed the rebels, face was preserved, and everyone was happy. But the Obama administration apparently couldn’t stand it–and a week later, it once again leaked claims of Israeli responsibility to the media.
At best, this means the administration simply didn’t understand the potential consequences, demonstrating an appalling ignorance of Middle East realities. A worse possibility is that it deliberately placed its own political advantage above the safety of Israeli citizens: Facing increasing criticism for its inaction in Syria, but reluctant to significantly increase its own involvement and unable even to secure congressional approval for the limited steps it has approved, perhaps it hoped revealing that at least an American ally was doing something would ease the political heat–even at the cost of provoking a Syrian retaliation that claims Israeli lives.
The worst possibility of all, however, is that the administration knows exactly what it’s doing, and is deliberately trying to spark an Israeli-Syrian war as a way out of its own dilemma: It wants Assad gone, but doesn’t want to do the work itself. Starting an Israeli-Syrian war would force Israel to destroy Assad’s air force, thereby greatly increasing the chances of a rebel victory.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/15/is-obama-trying-to-start-israel-syria-war/
July 15th, 2013, 12:03 pm
revenire said:
That’s great news Apple_Mini. Hopefully, Aleppo will be next.
July 15th, 2013, 12:04 pm
don said:
It is a proxy-war in Syria for a long time
Israel, Turkey and NATO support rebels and foreigners from more than 25 countries fighting for Syria’s disintegration and the establishment of an Islamist Caliphate instead, journalist Manuel Ochsenreiter, who’s extensively covered the conflict, told RT.
RT: We are seeing such a sharp change of rhetoric from Turkey after accusations the flotilla attack back in 2010 was a massacre. How did it all change so quickly, because only four months ago Ankara was still pressing with its court case over the incident?
Manuel Ochsenreiter: Well we have first to see that Turkey plays a very very important role in the Syrian conflict. We know that at the Turkish-Syrian border there are several camps where international terrorists can come and where they are trained for their activities on Syrian soil. So Turkey is playing an important role and of course Turkey is also an ally of Israel despite the criticism of Prime Minister Erdogan in the past years. Turkey is still a very important ally and maybe the most important ally of Israel in the region.
RT: What’s more Important for Turkey, getting rid of Assad or keeping on good terms with the rest of the regional players?
Manuel Ochsenreiter: I think that Turkey is not just acting on their own behalf. Turkey, we have to remember is very very important NATO member and Turkey knows that it’s acting also for NATO. Turkey is right now providing the military bases for the NATO “Patriot” rocket system which is directed against Syria. So Turkey knows how to connect its own let me call it “New Ataman Dream” of being the leading power of the region, with its role playing at NATO. And NATO is acting very aggressively towards Syria, especially the US but also the UK and France.
RT: What does such cooperation between some of the Syrian government’s supposedly toughest rivals in the region mean for the Assad regime?
Manuel Ochsenreiter: I don’t think this is a huge change from the general situation because Israel was supporting in the past the so-called “rebels” in this what the media claim is “a civil war”. What is it in reality – for a long time – a proxy-war. We have right now militants from more than 25 countries fighting in Syria against the Syrian government. And of course Israel was supporting the rebels. They found arms and weaponry from Israel on the rebel side. And Turkey also is supporting in a strong way the rebels on Syrian soil. We know that Turkey was even stealing from industrial compounds and transporting them to Turkey. So both these countries play already since a long time an important role in that conflict, in that a proxy-war on Syrian soil is not surprising at all.
RT: What started off as an internal conflict is now drawing in multiple external player – Iran sent in revolutionary guards, Lebanon’s Hezbollah is in the field, the west is mulling arms supplies to the rebels Al-Qaeda is there fighting against the opposition. Where is this going?
Manuel Ochsenreiter: It’s hard to say when it will end. The only thing what is sure is that this war will end at that moment when the west and Arabic countries will stop any support of the rebels, when they push the rebels to negotiate, the Syrian rebels at least, because foreign militants don’t have any reason to negotiate with the Syrian regime. They want something else, they want to disintegrate Syria, they want to establish in several regions maybe a type of Islamist Caliphate. When we look at Western politicians what they say about Syria they dream already about the disintegration of Syria and several sectarian entities. So what this means, this conflict will end at the point when at least the Syrian opposition, the armed opposition, comes together with government to negotiate but this will not take place until the moment when the foreign support stops for those militants.
http://rt.com/op-edge/proxy-war-syria-conflict-110/
July 15th, 2013, 12:18 pm
don said:
Senior U.S. official visits Egypt amid mass protests
Egypt’s public prosecutor has frozen the financial assets of 14 Muslim Brotherhood leaders. Islamists are calling for massive protests Monday, as are Morsi’s secularist opponents. Meanwhile, militants have attacked a bus in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula killing three people and wounding at least 17 others. The militants reportedly hit the bus, carrying cement workers, with rocket-propelled grenades. A North Sinai security official said the attackers were Morsi supporters, “and they want to tell us that even though Morsi is gone, we are still here.” He said that the armed forces have increased security in recent days in Sinai to address the militant threat.
Syria
A car bomb exploded overnight outside the police headquarters in the {predominantly Christian} town of Deir Attiyeh, about 50 miles north of the Syrian capital of Damascus. The attack killed at least 13 people including 10 policemen and one child, according to the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR). Syria’s state news agency confirmed the attack but not the number of casualties, and said the bomb exploded in a residential area. The attack has occurred as the Syrian government is working to regain control in the regions surrounding Damascus. The Syrian military has stepped up attacks in the northwestern province of Idlib killing at least 29 people according to the SOHR.
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/15/senior_us_official_visits_egypt_amid_mass_protests
July 15th, 2013, 12:30 pm
Ziad said:
Greenwald: Snowden has enough information to cause US govt ‘worst damage in history’
Former NSA contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden possesses dangerous information which could potentially lead to America’s “worst nightmare” if it is revealed, according to the journalist who first published Snowden’s leaked documents.
“Snowden has enough information to cause more damage to the US government in a minute alone than anyone else has ever had in the history of the United States,”Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist responsible for publishing some of Snowden’s first leaks, told Argentina-based newspaper La Nación.
“But that’s not his goal. His objective is to expose software that people around the world use without knowing what they are exposing themselves to, without consciously agreeing to surrender their rights to privacy. He has a huge number of documents that would be very harmful to the US government if they were made public,” Greenwald said.
He added that Washington should be exercising care in dealing with the Snowden because he has the potential to do further damage to the US.
http://friendsofsyria.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/greenwald-snowden-has-enough-information-to-cause-us-govt-worst-damage-in-history/
July 15th, 2013, 12:44 pm
Ziad said:
Syria – The REAL Story — MUST SEE — CIA & MOSSAD Death Squads
July 15th, 2013, 12:49 pm
Ziad said:
PUTIN TELLS MCCAIN FU#% OFF YOU WAR CRIMINAL
July 15th, 2013, 12:57 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Jad is Ziad,regardless how many time Ziad will deny that, Jad was short temper person, he never won an argument, ,he changed his name out of embarrassment
July 15th, 2013, 1:31 pm
don said:
Obama’s Pakistani Taliban: ‘We sent hundreds of fighters’ to Syria
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Leaders of the Pakistani Taliban are claiming to have sent “hundreds of fighters” to Syria to support local mujahideen forces in their struggle against President Bashar Assad.
Senior commanders in the militant Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, a group considered close to al-Qaeda, said they were sending fighters on the request of their “Arab friends.”
“When our Muslim brothers sought our help, we sent hundreds of fighters to fight alongside their Arab friends,” a senior Tehrik-e-Taliban commander said Sunday, on the condition of anonymity.
“We will soon issue videos of our fighters winning goods and properties of the enemy in Syria,” he added.
“We have established our own camps in Syria, but some of our people go and then return after spending some time fighting there,” he added.
The militant group is led by Hakimullah Mahsud – who the FBI offered a $5 million reward for on their Most Wanted Terrorist list.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/15/19486654-pakistani-taliban-we-sent-hundreds-of-fighters-to-syria
July 15th, 2013, 1:43 pm
revenire said:
Majed why is it important who is who?
July 15th, 2013, 1:56 pm
Badr said:
“ZOO where are you?”
Maybe he is busy showing Tara, who has also stopped posting comments for several days now, some beautiful places in Iran. (just kidding!)
July 15th, 2013, 3:13 pm
Citizen said:
Strong message to the US-Israel Co.: do not mess with Syria in any kind of overt military attack, because you will reap the whirlwind.
July 15th, 2013, 4:37 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Citizen
This message is exactly what Israel got, that is why Israel keep bombarding in Syria arms destined to HA
No one is afraid of Russia, no one think it can do anything,just inflated baloon
July 15th, 2013, 4:46 pm
Citizen said:
ZOO
откликнитесь!
Привет от друзей !
http://rt.com/news/russia-war-games-far-east-084/
July 15th, 2013, 4:58 pm
AMEERA said:
ما بصح الا الصحيح و النصر لسوريا و رح ترجع الشام زي زمان و احسن ورح نطلع نأركل ببيت جبري و نشرب ليمونية على الطريق. وكل زبالة التاريخ و وحوش الدهر و هدول المجاهدين يلي حاملين ز…. ونازلين مجاهدة بين فخاد السوريات كلهم على الحاوية و جهنم و بئس المصير.
ايه و شغلة تانية تفو على العرب و اللبنانين و المصريين و الاردنيين و كل النور يلي بينو على حقيئتهم
July 15th, 2013, 5:02 pm
Citizen said:
138. MAJED
Nazi Germany was quite believe it!No! It was not right! Sahak Shvili was believe it! No it was not right!!In the end, each one is responsible for his actions!There is nothing without a price!
July 15th, 2013, 5:08 pm
AMEERA said:
حدا بيعرف يفسر احلام؟
July 15th, 2013, 5:23 pm
Ziad said:
AMEERA
الله يسمع منك
July 15th, 2013, 5:28 pm
don said:
Rebel infighting in Syria undermining revolt
BEIRUT — On Syria’s front lines, al-Qaida fighters and Syrian rebels have turned against each other in a power struggle that has undermined the effort to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.
The rivalries — along with the efforts by extremist foreign fighters to impose their strict interpretation of Islam in areas they control — are chipping away at the movement’s popularity in Syria at a time when the regime is making significant advances on the ground.
“The rebels’ focus has shifted from toppling the regime to governing and power struggles,” said a 29-year-old woman from the contested city of Homs. “I feel that the lack of true leadership is and has always been their biggest problem.” She spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing retaliation from the fighters and the regime.
The infighting, which exploded into the open in the country’s rebel-held north in recent days, is contributing to a sense across many parts of Syria that the revolution has faltered. It threatens to fracture an opposition movement that has been plagued by divisions from the start.
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant group, formed in April and made up of al-Qaida’s branches in Iraq and Syria, has taken on an increasingly dominant role in the Syrian civil war. Many of its fighters are north Africans, Iraqis, Afghans and Europeans who have flocked to Syria
Activists also say extremists have recently been sweeping into villages previously controlled by the FSA, taking over crucial resources such as bakeries, oil wells and water pumps to secure people’s loyalties. In several cases, the militants were said to seize weapons from army bases and keep them from other rebels.
But what alienates the general population is the brutality. The extremists have carried out summary executions, public floggings and mass arrests, fueling the backlash against them.
In many parts of Aleppo and Idlib and Homs, where a suffocating stalemate has been in place since last year, residents say their support and patience for the rebels is fraying.
In Aleppo last week, residents staged a protest at a checkpoint against a blockade imposed by the militants on government-held districts, because the blockade created food shortages at the onset of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month. The protest led to a physical quarrel between supporters and opponents of the siege and ended with gunshots fired in the air to disperse protesters.
The dispute is not restricted to Islamic militants versus moderates. In the north, there has also been deadly infighting between Kurdish and Arab groups over control of captured territory along the border with Turkey.
“This infighting is very dangerous and is undermining our revolution,” said Mohammed Kanaan, an activist based in the northern province of Idlib. “People are fed up and tired. … They are starting to hate both sides,” he said via Skype.
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/07/15/3093817/rebel-infighting-in-syria-undermining.html
July 15th, 2013, 5:31 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
و كل النور يلي بينو على حقيئتهم
Ameera is jealous
لا يهمك اميرة جاييك الدور
July 15th, 2013, 5:48 pm
don said:
Friends of Obama/Hillary
Jordanian Salafist Leader Foresees Conflict with Secular Syrian Opposition
The leader of the Salafist-jihadist movement in southern Jordan, Mohammed Shalabi, also known as Abu Sayyaf, anticipates that the confrontation between Islamist and secular fighters in Syria will escalate and be amplified after the ouster of President Bashar al-Assad. This comes at a time when Pakistani extremists announced that the Pakistani Taliban has established camps and sent hundreds of fighters to Syria to fight against the regime in a strategy designed to firmly establish ties with the central leadership of al-Qaeda.
Abu Sayyaf, who openly supports the flow of Islamist fighters into Syria, told Al-Hayat in a phone conversation yesterday [July 14] that “the recent armed clashes [that took place] between us and secular fighters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) are a necessary evil, due to differing methods and programs.”
Jabhat al-Nusra, Salafist groups and other fighters want to implement the law of God, which will lead to an inevitable clash.” He added, “We arrived to Syria to rule by God Almighty’s [Sharia] law. If we do not resort to the Holy Quran after the fall of the tyrannical regime, the situation will remain as it is now. This would mean that our bloodshed over the past two years will have been in vain.”
Abu Sayyaf — who served 10 years in prison after being convicted of Salafist-jihadists activities, including plotting to carry out attacks against US forces in Jordan — said that if Assad is overthrown, the FSA or some of its battalions will demand Islamists groups drop their weapons. At that time, the clash will grow and significant losses will be suffered.
On the other hand, Abu Sayyaf said that the Jordanian authorities “have attempted to prevent Islamists from crossing the border to join the fighting in Syria, which drove them [to travel] through Turkey.”
According to Abu Sayyaf, close to 200 Jordanian fighters from the Salafist group entered Syria last month through Turkey, which increased the number of Jordanian fighters in the Syrian opposition ranks to more than 700 people.
In Peshawar, a [Pakistani] Taliban leader said that the movement had decided to fight alongside its “Mujahedeen friends” in the Syrian conflict. He added, “When our brothers needed our help, we sent hundreds of fighters.” He said that the group would soon issue videos of what he described as “their victories” in Syria.
Another leader of the radical Pakistani Taliban said that the decision to send fighters to Syria came at the request of “Arab friends.” He continued, “Since our Arab brothers have come here for our support, we are obliged to help them in their respective countries. This is what we did in Syria.” He noted, “We have established our own camps in Syria. Some of our people go and then return after spending some time fighting there.”
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2013/07/jordan-salafist-syria-opposition-confrontation-secular-assad.html
July 15th, 2013, 6:00 pm
AMEERA said:
واحد تافه
July 15th, 2013, 7:41 pm
Ghufran said:
Look at this and learn:
الخارجية الأمريكية: بيرنز لم يلتق مع الإخوان.. ولقاءاته كانت مع منصور والبرادعى والسيسى gate.ahram.org.eg/News/372843.as…
July 15th, 2013, 8:10 pm
Uzair8 said:
Scooby-Dooby-Zoo, Where are you? We {Ziad & co} got some work to do now.
Scooby-Dooby-Zoo, Where are you? We need some help from you now.
Come on Scooby-Zoo, I see you… pretending you got a sliver.
But you’re not fooling me, cause I can see, the way you shake and shiver.
[…]
*****
Zoo and Tara are absent at the same time…hmmm…they couldn’t be the same person could they…had us fooled for so long?
July 15th, 2013, 8:10 pm
Ziad said:
– Al Mayadeen Tv
لواء التوحيد يقول أنه قد صادر شاحنات محملة بالبضائع كانت متجهة نحو بلدتي نبل والزهراء المحاصرتين من قبل مسلحي المعارضة منذ عام بريف حلب ثم حرقَها بالقرب بلدة عندان بريف حلب.
المركز السوري للتوث
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=693135357378683&l=88f93cffc5
July 15th, 2013, 8:31 pm
Ghufran said:
Qaboun may not last much longer:
واصلت القوات النظامية حملتها على حي القابون في دمشق واقتحمت الحي الذي تتمركز فيه المعارضة المسلحة، وحذر الائتلاف السوري المعارض من مصير مئات الأشخاص المحاصرين في الحي، فيما سقط عدد من القتلى في ريف إدلب.
وقالت مصادر بالمعارضة إن القوات الموالية للرئيس بشار الأسد دخلت حي القابون بعد إخضاعه لقصف مركز، وتعرض حيان مجاوران تسيطر عليهما المعارضة لقصف متواصل في الأسابيع الأخيرة لشل حركة المقاتلين.
وقال القائد الميداني بـالجيش الحر محمد أبو الهدى إن قوات النظام دخلت القابون، وأوضح أن المعارضين يتحصنون بالأبنية العالية، وقال إن تلك القوات تحتجز عددا من المدنيين لمنع المعارضين من مهاجمتها، وقال إن الرهائن محتجزون في مسجد ومدرستين.
وقالت اللجنة التنسيقية في القابون إن ما لا يقل عن ستين شخصا قتلوا في الحي في الأيام الأخيرة نتيجة للقصف والاشتباكات التي أعقبته.
ووجه الائتلاف الوطني لقوى الثورة والمعارضة السورية اليوم نداء عاجلا إلى الأمم المتحدة ومنظماتها وجامعة الدول العربية، للإسراع لنجدة المدنيين وحمايتهم وفتح ممرات إنسانية عاجلة لإنقاذ الأطفال والنساء والشيوخ والمصابين في حي القابون.
It seems like Aleppo will be the new red line but that line could be crossed if no agreement is reached between the USA and Russia, as for Homs and reef Dimashq they are about to be abandoned by the rebels and their friends.
Israel probably hit missile depots in Latakia but the new anti ship missiles are likely to be stored in 20 stations or more, a single raid is intended to send a message. Assad as predicted did not respond, his eyes are somewhere else, he sees the raids as a distraction.
July 15th, 2013, 8:32 pm
Ziad said:
“Hasbara” courses at Israeli universities exposed in new report
Various Israeli academic institutions have introduced courses and programs on hasbara — the Hebrew-language term used to describe Israel’s attempts to re-brand its image as its occupation and military aggression makes it increasingly unpopular worldwide.
A new report from the Academic Watch Project shows that instead of promoting critical thought and inquiry, these courses at academic institutions serve to promote the policies of the State of Israel and the whitewashing of its crimes. The Academic Watch Project is a group of Palestinian students at Israeli academic institutions dedicated to exposing discrimination within Israeli academia and its connection with Israel’s military occupation and apartheid policies.
“A Word on Hasbara” aims to uncover the content of these courses and programs and their funding. It also seeks to reveal their connections with the ministries of foreign affairs and public diplomacy and international Zionist groups.
http://electronicintifada.net/content/hasbara-courses-israeli-universities-exposed-new-report/12612
July 15th, 2013, 8:35 pm
AMEERA said:
منئول
عن وزير الدفاع السوري بصدور امر رئاسي بمحو اسرائيل اذا ما هاجمت مصر او توغلت في سيناء
July 15th, 2013, 8:54 pm
AMEERA said:
البنت السورية مو لاجئة
البنت السورية مو لزواج الجوامع
البنت السورية مو لجهاد المناكحة
البنت السورية مو خدامة عند اي حدا
البنت السورية كندرتها بتم كل واحد بيجيب سيرتها بالعاطل
July 15th, 2013, 9:01 pm
don said:
From hotel dream to Syria Death Tower reality for Abu Dhabi-based investors
It was intended to be one of the most luxurious hotels in Homs – now it is known as the Death Tower by residents of the besieged old Syrian city that it overlooks.
The 285-room Homs Gardenia hotel was to have been operated by Abu Dhabi’s Rotana Group. Dubai’s Drake & Scull International (DSI) was appointed as one of its contractors with a Dh85 million contract.
Rotana hopes to revive the project one day, but with a civil war raging all around it, there can be no assurance of when that could happen.
“Everything is suspended in Syria,” says Amal Harb, the corporate vice president at Rotana Group in Abu Dhabi. “It’s a delicate situation.”
The group has two operating hotels in the country but at least four more are under development throughout Syria.
“Concrete is concrete. But I hope that peace will come back,” says Mohammed Murtada Al Dandashi, the chief executive of Abu Dhabi’s Al Ramz Securities, one of three investors in the Homs project. “It’s hard to say anything related to business when people are losing their lives and their houses.”
Mr Al Dandashi has had to restructure a US$100 million loan from Syria International Islamic Bank and Sham Bank, used to develop the tower. The tenure has been extended from two years to eight years.
Rotana’s Gardenia is one of several projects planned by Gulf companies that were trying to capitalise on Syria’s thriving economy as Mr Al Assad, the country’s president, warmed to foreign investment, previously banned under his father and predecessor in office.
Syria’s property sector was booming on the back of an influx of Iraqis that had fled sectarian violence in their home country and had taken up residence and started businesses in Damascus. The flood of investment helped to drive up property prices.
A 2010 report by Cushman & Wakefield ranked Damascus in 32nd place for the most expensive commercial space in the world, just below Dubai and Doha, but above other locations in the region including Cairo and Istanbul.
The Gardenia project, launched in 2010, was awarded to the Saudi Binladin Group as the main contractor.
“We are extremely proud of our project win in Syria, a country boasting a promising market – one that offers many potentially lucrative opportunities, particularly in the construction industry,” DSI’s chief executive Khaldoun Tabari said at the time.
In the capital, Emaar Properties’ US$500 million financial hub to house the Damascus Securities Exchange has also been hit by the war.
http://www.thenational.ae/business/industry-insights/tourism/from-hotel-dream-to-syria-death-tower-reality-for-abu-dhabi-based-investors
July 15th, 2013, 9:17 pm
Ghufran said:
” آللهم رَپَّ آلنُّورِ آلعظيمِ و رَپَّ آلگُرْسِيِّ آلرفيعِ و رَپِّ آلپحرِ آلمسچورِ و رَپِّ آلشَفْعِ آلگپيرِ و آلنُّورِ آلعزيزِ و رَپَّ آلتورآةِ و آلإنچيلِ و آلزَّپُورِ و آلفُرقآنِ آلعظيمِ أنت إلهُ من في آلسمآوآتِ و إلهُ من في آلأرضِ لآ إلهَ فيهمآ غيرُگَ و أنت چَپَّآرُ من في آلسمآوآتِ و چَپَّآرُ من في آلأرضِ لآ چپَّآرَ فيهمآ غيرُگَ و أنت مَلِگُ مَنْ في آلسمآوآتِ و مَلِگُ مَنْ في آلأرضِ لآ مَلِگَ فيهمآ غَيْرُگَ أسألُگ پآسمِگ آلگپيرِ و نُورِ وَچْهِگِ آلگريمِ و پِمْلگِگِ آلقديمِ يآ حيُّ يآ قَيُّومُ يآ حَيُّ يآ قَيُّومُ يآ حَيُّ يآ قّيُّومُ أسألُگ پآسمِگ آلذي أشرقَ په گُلِّ شيءٍ و پآسمِگ آلذي أَشْرقتْ په آلسمآوآتُ و آلأرضُ و پآسمِگ آلذي صَلُحَ په آلأوَّلونَ و په يَصْلِحُ آلآخرون يآ حيُّ قَپْلَ گُلِّ حيٍّ و يآ حيُّ پَعْدَ گُلِّ حَيِّ يآ حَيُّ لآ إِلهَ إلآ أنْتَ صَلِّ على محمدٍ و آلِ محمدٍ و آغْفِرْ لي ذُنُوپي و آچْعَلْ لي من أَمْرِي يُسْرآ و فَرَچًآ قريپًآ و ثَپِّتْني على دينِ محمدٍ و آلِ محمدٍ و على هدى محمدٍ و آلِ محمدٍ و على سنةِ محمدٍ و آلِ محمدٍ عليهِ و عليهِمُ آلسلآمُ و آچعلْ عَمَلِي في آلمرْفُوعِ آلمُتَقَپَّلِ و هَپْ لي گمآ وَهَپْتَ لأوليآئِگ و أهلِ طآعتِگَ فإني مؤمنٌ پَگَ و مُتَوَگِّلٌ عليگَ مُنيپٌ إليگ مع مصيري إِليگَ و تَچْمَعُ لي و لأَهْلِي و لوُلْدي آلخيرَ گُلَّهُ و تَصْرِفَ عني و عن وُلْدي و أهلي آلشَرَّ گُلَّهُ أنت آلحَنَّآنُ آلمَنَّآنُ پديعُ آلسمآوآتِ و آلأرضِ تُعْطِي آلخَيْرَ من تَشآءُ و تَصْرِفُهُ عمن تشآءُ فآمْنُنْ علي پرحمتِگ يآ أرْحَمَ آلرآحمين
July 15th, 2013, 9:41 pm
Ghufran said:
The UK decided not to arm Syrian rebels:
Syria’s top rebel commander has accused David Cameron of betrayal after the Prime Minister abandoned plans to arm the Syrian opposition.
General Salim Idris, the head of the Free Syrian Army, said the decision would “leave us alone to be killed” by President Bashar al Assad, and pave the way for al-Qaeda to dominate the rebel ranks.
Mr Idris hit out in an interview with The Daily Telegraph after Downing Street confirmed that Mr Cameron had ruled out arming the opposition on advice from the British military. The government had previously hinted that it was strongly considering it, successfully lobbying two months ago for an end to the European Union arms embargo.
But military chiefs at Britain’s National Security Council are understood to have warned Downing Street that the conflict was now too advanced for basic weapons supplies to make much difference.
They said that could only be achieved by a much-larger scale intervention, involving jet strikes on regime air defences and bases, which Britain has already ruled out.
July 15th, 2013, 9:54 pm
don said:
Islamic militants leave Pakistan to fight in Syria
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — (AP) — Suleman spent years targeting minority Shiite Muslims in his home country of Pakistan as a member of one of the country’s most feared militant groups. Now he is on his way to a new sectarian battleground, Syria, where he plans to join Sunni rebels battling President Bashar Assad’s regime.
It is a fight he believes will boost his reward in heaven.
The short and stocky Pakistani, who identified himself using only his first name for fear of being targeted by authorities, is one of an increasing number of militants who have left Pakistan for Syria in recent months. The fighters have contributed to a growing presence of Islamic extremists and complicated U.S. efforts to help the rebels.
The presence of Islamic extremists in Syria looms large over U.S. efforts to help the rebels, especially when it comes to providing weapons that could end up in the hands of America’s enemies. The extremists have also sparked infighting with more secular rebels concerned about the increasing power of the Islamists.
three Pakistani intelligence officials based in the tribal region that borders Afghanistan, as well as militants themselves, say the fighters leaving Pakistan for Syria include members of al-Qaida, the Pakistani Taliban and Suleman’s group, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
The fighters fall mainly into two categories. One includes foreign combatants from places like Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and likely the Middle East who came to Pakistan’s tribal region to fight U.S.-led forces in neighboring Afghanistan and are now heading to Syria because they view it as the most pressing battle, said the Pakistani intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
This group includes members of al-Qaida who trained the Pakistani Taliban in areas such as bomb-making and are now moving on to the battlefield in Syria, said Pakistani Taliban fighters, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of being targeted by the government.
An activist based in northern Syria, Mohammad Kanaan, said there are Pakistanis fighting in his area but not in large numbers.
“Most of the muhajireen are Arab fighters from Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia,” he said Sunday, using the Arab term for foreign fighters. “But we have seen Pakistanis and Afghans recently as well.”
The second group leaving Pakistan includes mostly domestic members of the Pakistani Taliban and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi who are heading to Syria because they are being so closely monitored by Pakistani authorities that it makes it difficult for them to carry out operations at home, said a Pakistani Taliban fighter who identified himself only as Hamza for fear of being targeted by authorities.
These militants are under surveillance because they have been detained previously in connection with attacks, or are on Pakistan’s radar because of their importance in their organizations, Hamza said.
Suleman is one of about 70 militants who have been sent to Syria in the last two months by a network jointly run by the Pakistani Taliban and Laskhar-e-Jhangvi, Hamza said. The militants came from various parts of Pakistan, including the provinces of Baluchistan, Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and the southern city of Karachi, Hamza said.
Another group of 40, including Hamza, is expected to leave in the coming weeks, he said. These militants are not going to fight with Jabhat al-Nusra, or the Nusra Front, the most powerful Islamic militant group in Syria, Hamza said. But he did not know which group they would join.
The head of the network sending these militants is a former Lashkar-e-Jhangvi leader named Usman Ghani, Hamza said. Another key member is a Pakistani Taliban fighter named Alimullah Umry, who is sending fighters to Ghani from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Hamza said.
The militants are traveling to Syria by various routes, and some are taking their families. The most closely watched are secretly taking speed boats from Baluchistan’s coast to the Omani capital of Muscat and then traveling onward to Syria, Hamza said.
Others are flying from Pakistan to various countries, including Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates and Sudan, and then making their way to Syria. The financing is coming from sources in the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, Hamza said.
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/jul/14/islamic-militants-leave-pakistan-fight-syria/
July 15th, 2013, 10:01 pm
don said:
It can only be described as disturbing that some of the most powerful countries can support militants who would be described as “terrorists” if they turned and pointed their guns towards the West
Syrian rebels have hand in atrocities
SECURITY PROBLEM: Assad is depicted as the sole purveyor of violence but nothing is mentioned of the rebels’ crimes
FOR over two years, the armed conflict in Syria has dominated news headlines, but international opinion has remained divided over varying interpretations of the conflict and its protagonists.
The American stance is that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been ruthlessly killing his own people, and that Assad has lost his legitimacy and must step down.
The United States and its allies have lent enormous financial and material support to the rebels fighting Assad’s regime, with heavy CIA presence on the ground coordinating the distribution of weapons, aid and materials, as confirmed by The New York Times.
The Russian interpretation is that the Syrian government is the legitimate government of the country, and that Assad is fighting militant movements infused with jihadist elements.
In other words, the Russians believe Syria is not facing a political problem as much as it is facing a terrorism and security problem.
I recently spoke with Mother Superior Agnès-Mariam de la Croix, a Syrian nun who visited Malaysia as part of a religious delegation, and her testimony from the ground confirmed that the Russian account of events is far more accurate that what those in the West claim is happening.
Reports indicate that several Malaysian media outlets received negative feedback from their audiences after giving Mother Agnès the platform to share her views, mainly because many in Malaysia’s Muslim community hold sympathetic views of the rebels.
At this stage, it would be irresponsible to deny the documented human rights abuses committed by anti-Assad militants fighting in Syria, and testimony like that given by Mother Agnès shouldn’t be so easily shrugged off. She has her fair criticisms of the Assad regime and is a member of a reconciliation initiative aimed at ending the fighting through dialogue.
She told me how the Syrian conflict is the first “virtual war”, in a sense that every form of persuasion is being used by the enemies of Assad to depict him as the sole purveyor of violence, when those same figures suppress reports of crimes committed by the al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.
She shared her compelling and harrowing eyewitness account, and she claims that civilians, religious minorities and pro-Assad loyalists have been targeted by rebels, and executed or beheaded.
Her claims have been corroborated by others, and by mounting photo and video evidence showing atrocities committed by the US-backed rebels.
It should be noted that those states that have supported the rebels — the primary backers being the US, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and Israel — have maintained their positions for political and strategic reasons.
The geopolitics of the region are very complicated, but the West, including Israel, have mutual interests with the Sunni-majority Gulf states that champion the Wahhabi and Salafi brands of Islam.
Both the West and their allies in the Gulf view Iran, the Assad regime in Syria, and Hizbollah in Lebanon as a threat to their interests; these forces also happen to be Shia Muslims.
There is an undeniable sectarian element to the fighting in Syria that senselessly pits Sunnis against Shias, which has led to disaster for civilians and Syria’s religious minorities.
http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/syrian-rebels-have-hand-in-atrocities-1.320062
July 15th, 2013, 10:31 pm
don said:
Syrian Islamists are asked to pack their stupid flag and leave the new Egypt
Tens of thousands of Syrians, once welcomed by former president Morsi, face a shifting reality
http://www.timesofisrael.com/syrian-refugees-in-egypt-swept-up-in-turmoil/
July 15th, 2013, 10:49 pm
Ghufran said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3a9IsQn8w
A war at home and a hostile environment and humiliation abroad
July 15th, 2013, 10:58 pm
omen said:
via wpost:
now why would the US want a shia friendly opposition? hmmm?
is there such an animal?
July 15th, 2013, 11:22 pm
don said:
‘Turkish-Israeli military cooperation would open up a can of worms in the Arab world’
The re-creation of a historical alliance between Israel and Turkey against a “common enemy” would be seen as “bad news” across the Arab world, political analyst Chris Bambery told RT, adding that the move could also terribly damage Erdogan’s government.
RT: If Ankara is involved in this and it is confirmed to be the case, what do you make of this certainly unlikely alliance between Turkey and Israel?
Chris Bambery: Prior to Erdogan taking office a decade ago, Turkey and Israel were very close allies in the Middle East. Remember too that Turkey is a key NATO-frontline state with massive military aid given to it by the United States. So there’s a historical alliance between Israel and Turkey, fuelled by the dislike of many of the Arab states who both perceive as enemies. Under Erdogan, the military has been brought under some control in Turkey. I think the question must be twofold.
Firstly, if Erdogan agreed to the use of a Turkish military base for the attack on Syria, this is going to fuel the discontent which it is already facing, with the demonstrations in Taksim Square and elsewhere. Given that Erdogan has gone out of his way to pose as being someone who supported Hamas in the Gaza Strip, has been a friend of the Palestinians, and has gone a long way back on a historic alliance with Israel, if Erdogan agreed to such an attack, it would do terrible damage for [those relationships].
RT: You are talking about tensions domestically, but what about the wider implications – with the Arab world, for example? How would they view Erdogan’s foreign policy on this?
CB: Some countries in the Arab world – Saudi Arabia, Qatar and elsewhere – could not care who’s carrying out the attacks on the Assad regime. They would not care if Israel was doing it or anyone else because their agenda is so far up the ladder. But across the Arab world they would be seen as bad news…this is after all the fourth military attack on the Syrian territory that we know of and it is clear that the Israelis have carried out these attacks and if Turkish military have supported this attack in any way, it’s really going to open up a can of warms inside the region.
http://rt.com/op-edge/turkey-israel-alliance-base-139/
July 15th, 2013, 11:27 pm
omen said:
but nothing is mentioned of the rebels’ crimes
that is a fat ass lie. all corporate media focuses on are rebel crimes.
July 15th, 2013, 11:43 pm
don said:
Good news for OMEN
Christians targeted in Egypt
Report on an increase in attacks on Christians in Egypt
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2013/07/15/penhaul-pkg-egypt-christians-under-attack.cnn
July 15th, 2013, 11:52 pm
omen said:
ok. but i was asking about this:
should i buy a gift??
what does D-P mean? is the first word “dirty”?
July 15th, 2013, 11:53 pm
omen said:
i don’t engage sockpuppets.
July 16th, 2013, 12:00 am
don said:
Ramadan in Egypt
Morsy supporters hit with tear gas
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2013/07/15/intl-egypt-clashes-paton-walsh.cnn
July 16th, 2013, 12:12 am
Ghufran said:
In a strange but real way, the absence of a strong military leader among the rebels is the biggest impediment to reaching an end to this war, the assumption that rebels due to their sheer number will eventually defeat regime forces and their allies is a myth because rebels lack a number of qualities that are essential to win a long war, first and foremost they failed to win wide popular support, and I am not referring to coastal areas here, especially in large urban areas like Aleppo and Damascus , they also do not have friends that are committed to fighting a long war, compare that to Assad allies, and to make things worse, rebels are now dominated by Islamists and tainted by terrorism.
I realized from day one that it will not be enough for rebels to say that Assad regime is bad and brutal, we knew that long before March,2011, what Syrians were hoping for is a good alternative but what they saw is the marginalization of anti regime liberal democrats who do not believe in violence and the ascension of thugs financed by the GCC. What killed the revolution project is the revolution friends not its enemies. Now, it is a war, and the winner will determine syria’s future and probably the region. Losing this war is not an option for either camp and their allies and that only made it harder to end this conflict, nobody wants to lose Syria, the struggle for syria is as old as olive oil.
July 16th, 2013, 12:13 am
don said:
Israeli, Turkish, Qatari intelligence officers met with Syrian opposition leaders – report
The Syria militant groups’ leaders as well as Turkish and Qatari officers met with several high ranking Israeli officials over arms supply plant to terrorist groups fighting in Syria.
The meeting was done last week in an area in northern Israel, whereas the leaders of Syrian opposition groups were also transferred to a hospital where the militants injured in Syria war are treated, the daily quoted some informed sources.
A key subject of meeting was about finding appropriate ways to unify militant groups and provide them with required arms and military equipment.
The Turkish and Qatari intelligence officers were also informed about the details of more Israeli regimes’ plots to ignite turmoil in Syria war.
Earlier, an Israeli regime’s coordinator has also met Qatari officials in London to discuss arms deliveries to Syrian foreign-backed militants, Iran’s Fars News Agency reported.
http://inserbia.info/news/2013/07/israeli-turkish-qatari-intelligent-officers-met-with-syria-opposition-leaders/
July 16th, 2013, 12:27 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Ameera said
امر رئاسي بمحو اسرائيل اذا ما هاجمت مصر او توغلت في سيناء
“presidential order to wipe Israel if Israel attack Sina or Egypt”
Assad could not respond to Israel attack on Syria(Damascus)
Reports that Israel attacked Latakia, now Assad said he will wipe out Israel
زعم الفرزدق ان سيقتل مربعا ابشر بطول سلامة يا مربع
I love to see Assad attack Israel
Omen: they are just visiting each other
July 16th, 2013, 12:33 am
omen said:
but what they saw is the marginalization of anti regime liberal democrats who do not believe in violence and the ascension of thugs financed by the GCC.
maybe if the regime hadn’t killed or locked up so many liberals, they wouldn’t now be so marginalized!!!
July 16th, 2013, 12:33 am
omen said:
i was just reading about that ‘attack israel’ scenario:
i can see the regime firing at jordan or turkey – not israel.
no wonder jordanian officials are so jittery and always running to media to stress they are not doing anything to aid the rebels.
July 16th, 2013, 12:44 am
Ghufran said:
Omen:
“maybe if the regime hadn’t killed or locked up so many liberals, they wouldn’t now be so marginalized!!!”.
I can not disagree, however that is only half of the story, the other half is what we see today. Assad sr and Assad jr knew that for them to prevail, they have to let militant elements, distrusted by most Syrians and the west , dominate the opposition. Some of that was planned by the regime, the rest was finished by the MB and the GCC knowingly or unknowingly. This is why people like dr AA alkhayyer, an alawite, is in prison, keep in mind that it is not just Assad who marginalized liberal democrats, almost everybody else did, only people with no power, like most of us on this blog, wanted a free and democratic Syria. Islamism-GCC style and democracy can not coexist, it is an oxymoron.
July 16th, 2013, 1:00 am
omen said:
not only is israel denying the attack, the regime is denying the attack!
my new theory: crappy russian munitions are so unstable, they blow up if you look at it wrong.
russians blame israel to cover up the shame of putting out shoddy product.
July 16th, 2013, 1:04 am
omen said:
see, told ya a shift is coming.
Barbara Slavin @barbaraslavin1:
interesting
@hassanrouhani aides likely to become cabinet ministers.
all us-educated.
July 16th, 2013, 2:10 am
Badr said:
Keep close watch on developments in that region of the country too!
In rural Syria, a rare peace threatened by sectarian war
HOMS COUNTRYSIDE, Syria (Reuters)
July 16th, 2013, 2:13 am
omen said:
🙂
July 16th, 2013, 2:26 am
omen said:
but this is what you did to me! how do you fault someone when you are guilty of doing the same thing? you are claiming i’m somebody else when i’m not. i’m not jewish, neither am i aig. i’ve never used another name on this blog.
p.s. badr, i can’t remember. are you iranian?
July 16th, 2013, 2:27 am
Badr said:
Omen,
How should I answer without making you more informed about it? 😉
July 16th, 2013, 3:59 am
apple_mini said:
Have we heard any good news for the opposition and their brethren rebels lately? No, on the contrary, all bad news.
That is a good news. Let’s keep it that way until they give up violence.
Only after that, we might be able to give peace a chance. Then we can have progressive reforms back in mind.
July 16th, 2013, 4:02 am
SimoHurtta said:
177. omen said:
107. SimoHurtta said: Is Omen the former hyperactive commentator AIG (an other Israeli guy)? […] Character assassination attempts by claiming a commentator being somebody else is only a proof that the claimer doesn’t have any real arguments left in his/hers arsenal. It is allowed to change the pseudonym, so there is no problem if an old commentator appears with a new pseudonym.
but this is what you did to me! how do you fault someone when you are guilty of doing the same thing? you are claiming i’m somebody else when i’m not. i’m not jewish, neither am i aig. i’ve never used another name on this blog.
p.s. badr, i can’t remember. are you iranian?
Omen what means on your twitter account (@omen_99) the text calif.nonsyrian.nonmuslim? Writing 31,709 tweets (I repeat nearly 32 thousand) mostly about Syria is an “admirable” achievement for a Californian, non Syrian and non Muslim “human rights activist”. Could or would anybody do a such giant effort without being paid? The question is so paid by whom? Saudis, Mossad …
Omen are you sure you are not AIG? He is not Syrian, not a Muslim and could live occasionally in California.
July 16th, 2013, 4:51 am
Akbar Palace said:
Simohurtta,
Why don’t you tell about where you live? Isn’t it Finland?
Apparently, a parlimentary democracy where the president is ELECTED to a six year term and can only serve twice.
Pretty nice!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland
Oh, and while we’re at it, here’s a little “fun fact”:
Israel’s population is greater than Finland’s and the number of Jews in Israel is greater than the number of Finns in Finland.;)
July 16th, 2013, 6:46 am
mjabali said:
The link from Hamoudeh al-Halabi is excellent, even better than the ok featured post. I wish Syria comment feature the Mujaddami article from Free Halab.
July 16th, 2013, 7:04 am
don said:
OMEN celebrates the killing of Syrian Christians and does not understand Arabic
180. SimoHurtta said:
Could or would anybody do a such giant effort without being paid? The question is so paid by whom? Saudis, Mossad…
July 16th, 2013, 8:11 am
don said:
The new Egypt after the Islamist monster Morsi
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2013/07/16/sayah-egypt-after-morsy.cnn
July 16th, 2013, 8:19 am
don said:
US seeking more info on presence of Pakistani Taliban in Syria
United States is seeking more information on the presence of the Pakistani Taliban in Syria, an official has said.
“We have seen that report and seeking more details,” said Jen Psaki, State Department spokesperson, adding that the US was concerned about the presence of foreign fighters among the Syrian rebels.
“We’ve been very clear about our longstanding concerns over the influx of foreign fighters into Syria who seek to capitalise on the situation in Syria and foment violence for their own benefit,” Psaki said.
Psaki was responding to questions on the Pakistani Taliban revelation that its fighters drawn from various countries have joined the Syrian rebels against the President, Bashar Al-Assad’s forces.
The US is providing non-lethal military assistance to the Syrian rebels, with several lawmakers and a part of the administration contemplating advancing its assistance to it.
“The Pakistani Taliban has been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation, has conducted numerous terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/international/us-seeking-more-info-on-presence-of-pak-taliban-in-syria/article4920945.ece
July 16th, 2013, 8:28 am
Akbar Palace said:
Not a Joo in Sight NewZ
I wonder what regime “hasbara” and Jonathan Cook has to say about this:
Syria: child among nine executed at checkpoint, watchdog says
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10181741/Syria-child-among-nine-executed-at-checkpoint-watchdog-says.html
July 16th, 2013, 8:38 am
Syrialover said:
Dear SYRIAN HAMSTER, HOPEFUL, OBSERVER and other honest commentators,
I don’t know if you saw this brilliant piece reminding us of how Afghanistan was systematically and brutally destroyed by Russia. And how closely this is now being deliberately replicated in Syria with Assad’s cooperation.
The historical facts here expose the ignorance and irrationality of the Assad camp apologists and “Amerika haters”.
See http://www.maysaloon.org/2013/07/the-afghanization-of-syria-fallacy.html
July 16th, 2013, 9:31 am
revenire said:
Another history lesson from Maysaloon – the person who claimed Hitler came to power democratically – by election? I’ll pass.
July 16th, 2013, 9:38 am
Alan said:
look at who are mercenaries who is William Hague arming
Britain To Arm Syrian Rebels With Protective Gear
http://youtu.be/2n1x1lI61ys
July 16th, 2013, 9:38 am
Alan said:
The Sarin Sweepstakes
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/07/15/the_sarin_sweepstakes_pentagon_destroy_chemical_weapons_syria_contest
July 16th, 2013, 9:50 am
Citizen said:
Every soldier is a general after the battle, but it seems we never learn the lessons of war. To discuss the elusive nature of peace, flourishing weapons proliferation and the Syrian conflict, With Ambassador Fred Tanner, the Director of the Geneva Centre for Security Policy.
http://youtu.be/6pFcb3eD6Wk
July 16th, 2013, 10:27 am
Syrialover said:
#71. HAMOUDEH AL-HALABI,
The cowardly masked shariah “judges” and executioners are nothing but ugly thrill killers with a nonsense script concocted as they go along.
There is nothing holy or warrior-like about any of them, they are all losers or dumb kids in real life, seizing a chance to play out childish fantasies and power games.
They have no right or role in Syria or any society anywhere in the world.
They have flocked to Syria to take advantage of a failed state where the population are not protected by rule of law or a sovereign government.
The 23 year old Pakistani or Algerian strutting around laying down
his version of the law to Syrians at gunpoint and cooking up “punishments” is a beneficiary of Bashar Assad, gleefully joining him in victimizing and terrorizing Syrians.
Their presence in Syrian communities is the standard scientific indicator that Bashar Assad and his external collaborators have successfully CREATED a failed state, a place full of numb, frightened and exhausted people. A magnet and paradise for criminals, idiot fantasists and predators playing “holy warriors”.
They deserve much worse than Guantanamo and I pray they get it.
July 16th, 2013, 10:42 am
Alan said:
Worldwide Mass Strike Upsurge in Progress, While US Remains Crippled by Anarchists, Chomsky, Ron Paul
http://tarpley.net/2013/07/14/worldwide-mass-strike-upsurge-in-progress-while-us-remains-crippled/
July 16th, 2013, 10:54 am
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE, #188 are you kidding, pretending not to know that Hitler led the biggest party in the German parliament and had overwhelming electoral success?
What are you playing at?
Here’s an article explaining EXACTLY what you are doing – you are playing the same game as the guy here.
Except you’re more obvious.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100225278/revealed-how-i-posed-as-a-left-wing-nutjob-on-the-guardians-comment-is-free-and-got-away-with-it/
July 16th, 2013, 10:58 am
Syrialover said:
ALAN, you seriously need the information in the article I linked in #187. You’ve somehow missed out on that part of modern history. Now’s your chance to fill the gap.
July 16th, 2013, 11:02 am
revenire said:
SL get your history book out again regarding Hitler. I called you on regurgitating Maysaloon’s inaccuracy then and call you on it again now. No excuse for that sort of sloppiness.
Posing as a left wing agitator? Yeah, you got me. I am posing as whatever you want me to be. How about you? Is this act of yours real?
Maysaloon can write 1000 articles. They’re funny. Everyone should have hobbies.
Thx.
July 16th, 2013, 11:03 am
Alan said:
Good day to all!
194. SYRIALOVER
Have you any useful subject for SC?
July 16th, 2013, 11:13 am
SimoHurtta said:
181.
Oh, and while we’re at it, here’s a little “fun fact”:
Israel’s population is greater than Finland’s and the number of Jews in Israel is greater than the number of Finns in Finland.;)
Well Akbar in Israel are 5.8 million Jewish citizens. The well guarded state secret is how many of them are actually still living in Israel. As you know the country’s population are those people living at a certain point of time in the country. So the calculation is done everywhere else than in Israel. It is estimated that 0.5 – 1 million Israeli Jews have already used their second or third passport and live abroad – permanently. And of those who actually still live in “larger Israel” hundreds of thousands do not live in Israel, but in Palestinian area which is not considered to be Israel.
In Finland are 5,231,163 Finns, in Sweden 440,000 etc in total 6.5 million. If this Akbar is a contest then I could say Judaism is a religion and Jews are simply followers of that religion. There are much more us Lutherans in the world than followers of Judaism (=Jews).
By the way Akbar did you know that Finns are also an “official” minority of Israel, citizens from the beginning (1948). Finns meaning gentile Finns. Check from wiki – Israelis.:)
Second by the way Akbar, do you know which passport the leader of Russian Mafia also has? I do not know should this be in the series of “funny questions” or “what is Israeli “democracy””.
July 16th, 2013, 11:14 am
Alan said:
187. SYRIALOVER read it please,for you also linked.
Syria and the al-Qaeda Boomerang Linking Afghanistan and Bosnia: CIA, MI6 and Gulf Petrodollars
http://moderntokyotimes.com/2013/07/14/syria-and-the-al-qaeda-boomerang-linking-afghanistan-and-bosnia-cia-mi6-and-gulf-petrodollarsss/
July 16th, 2013, 11:28 am
Syrialover said:
#195. REVENIRE
Whoosh, right over your head. No, I wasn’t saying you were posing as a left-wing agitator as a joke to get reaction. In your case you are posing as something different, but your game, tactics and motive are exactly the same.
It’s very obvious.
And what are you mumbling about Hitler and history books?
Hey, anyone wanting to understand how outlandish REVENIRE’S error is in #188, just google “Hitler’s electoral success”.
July 16th, 2013, 11:30 am
revenire said:
SL you can keep on insulting me but nothing went over my head. I have no idea how you could guess my motive. Maybe you’re a psychic.
Go back to – last week was it? – and the post about you pasted from Maysaloon:
“Being democratically elected is not a mandate for riding roughshod over the rule of law. After all everybody knows that the Nazis were democratically elected and yet they unleashed the template for the state sanctioned horror that we are seeing in Syria today.”
http://www.maysaloon.org/2013/07/syria-revolution-denied.html
The Nazis didn’t come to power by democratic elections. Maysaloon is sloppy when it comes to history and allegory.
I make no claim on understanding your motive but have learned a great deal about you from the people you champion here.
If you believe you are for some sort of ‘freedom revolution’ that’s wonderful but take it from me that belief looks silly given the facts on the ground. It is utopian. I suppose that is okay. I want a world with no hunger, disease or hatred. We all have dreams.
July 16th, 2013, 11:54 am
Syrialover said:
ALAN
I obediently read what you posted in #198. But it was full of opinion and rumoured assertions, not the significant facts presented in the article I recommended to you in #187.
Everyone forgets or doesn’t know Russia’s actions in Afghanistan are the catalyst and solid foundation for what unfolded since and now reverberates in Syria.
It seems you have connections in Russia. So you don’t have to read the article I suggested to get the truth.
Just get out there and have a chat with a few former Russian conscripts who fought in Afghanistan.
July 16th, 2013, 11:55 am
revenire said:
No, the actions of the West against the former USSR is the cause of current history SL. That’s a gigantic error in thinking.
Short version: The West tried to use Islamic fundamentalism against the USSR. The USSR said no and at the request of the Afghan government invaded.
I have chatted with Russian conscripts but how would they know the policy of Russia or the US? Do US conscripts understand US policy? Of course not.
Quit tying to one-up everyone here SL. You’re no better than anyone else. Your life experiences are no better either.
You are arrogant.
July 16th, 2013, 12:04 pm
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE # 200,
Nobody has to guess or be psychic about your motives. You expose them in blazing mile-high letters in your posts.
Also, the Maysaloon statement on Hitler is correct, why are you trying to deny it? He stated the Nazis were democratically elected. You are the one who says they “came to power by democratic elections’. Which shows Maysaloon has a better informed and more sophisticated grip on the subject than you are prepared to give him credit for.
Whose sloppy now?
July 16th, 2013, 12:09 pm
Alan said:
The impression is that in Syria need to include “limited” contingent of the Russian army with General Gromov, as in Afghanistan. Only then will this bastard to calm down and stops.
If I wrote wrong, then let the Taliban write right for you!
* * *
The Pakistani Taliban said on their websites that the first batch of Pakistani militant movement “Taliban” arrived in Syria to fight with armed groups such as Al-Nusra (a branch of al-Qaeda in Syria) against the Syrian regime.
Abdul Rashid Abbasi, a spokesman for the militants in Syria, said that the soldiers created a control center to launch military operations on the side of the Islamists. Speaking to local media on Tuesday, he said that another group of Islamic Jihad soldiers, at least 120 people are expected to join the main group in Syria at the end of this week.
Al-Jazeera contacting Islam Abad received clarification from the movement “Taliban”
which states that “the Arab fighters in Syria asked for help from the Pakistani Taliban, that” the Taliban “is ready to send hundreds of their fighters to fight the government troops and Assad was widespread support for the Islamists in Syria.”
The Pakistani Taliban, known as Tehrik-e Taliban, located mainly on the native Pashtun areas of Pakistan along the Afghan border – and are stronghold of armed groups and their allies from al-Qaeda.
The Taliban in Pakistan, are linked with the Afghan militants, mainly fighting to overthrow the government of Pakistan and impose their version of Islam that focuses on the military power of Islamists and Sharia law. Given that the fight FSA and Al Nusra escalated after the assassination by Islamists prominent opposition field commander, these messages may be elements. Islamic propaganda aimed at maintaining the power of the spirit militants and their supporters.
July 16th, 2013, 12:12 pm
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE, #202 correct, I admit I often feel a delicious surge of arrogance when I read the stuff you post. I am sure most other normal people here do too.
I felt particularly vindicated when you get stuck into articles you haven’t even read on subjects you seem unfamiliar with. And I get a special buzz when you flash your anti-American conspiracy theories after cheering on Bashar Assad.
That “short version” you quote is the shallow, biased, uninformed version remote from reality, like so much lazy opinion that whirls around these days.
The Russian conscripts don’t have to tell you about the policy, they only have to tell you what they were made to do in Afghanistan and what they saw before and after the Russians had finished gutting the place, destroying the established university and civil institutions, causing a mass exodus of skilled and educated people and anyone who opposed their takeover in Kabul.
Anyway, what am I talking about – you are only here as a hoax and gamester trying to get a reaction from people.
July 16th, 2013, 12:30 pm
Citizen said:
Morsi Supporters Wave Al Qaeda Flags
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/obamas-longing-for-the-brotherhood-on-the-glazov-gang/
2 videos!
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Muslim Brotherhood leader tells followers to break Ramadan fast to prepare for jihad
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/muslim-brotherhood-leader-tells-followers-to-break-ramadan-fast-to-prepare-for-jihad/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
July 16th, 2013, 12:39 pm
Syrialover said:
In #196 ALAN asked me: “Have you any useful subject for SC?”
Answer: What a great question! Thanks.
Yes, that article in #187 backgrounding Russia’s historical motives and modus operandi in Syria is extremely useful.
Much more significant, relevant and illuminating than anything else linked here in ages.
July 16th, 2013, 12:40 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Reverse,
Thanks so much for the history lesson. You’ll be pleased to know that Bashar Assad is the closest leader to Adolph Hitler the Middle East has ever known, except perhaps for Saddam “Mass Graves” Hussein.
In all these cases, the dear leader suspends freedoms and the citizens become “dog meat” to a government out-of-control and beyond the law. Actually, they change the laws to their benefit.
It’s like going to a Casino where everyone knows the owner cheats.
Bon Chance!
Syrialover,
You and Syrian Hamster Rule!
July 16th, 2013, 12:40 pm
Ziad said:
SYRIALOVER #191
I read your comment and I agree 100% with your observations, but when it comes to your “standard scientific indicator” conclusion.
I am bewildered in the extreme how a normally thinking sane person would consider it a conclusion that can be logically inferred from the observations of the first five paragraphs. It can not.
In doing this you are not alone among the supporters of the Syrian revolution. They follow the general rule:
if you see something. It does not matter what. If it is bad blame it on the ‘Syrian regime’.
July 16th, 2013, 12:44 pm
Mina said:
#204
Now that the Talibans have an office in Doha, Qatar should be made accountable!
July 16th, 2013, 12:49 pm
zoo said:
USA’s Syria ‘pressure cooker’ strategy
The first and utmost priority of the USA is to protect Israel now exposed to new dangers, the Sinai, the Golan, Al Qaeda in addition to Gaza, Hezbollah and Iran.
The immediate objective of the USA is to weaken Syria Hezbollah and Iran at any cost, even by allowing Islamist extremists in Syria to help in that task.
The purpose is to create a catastrophic situation in Syria so that ultimately the Syrians will accept a peace deal under Israeli conditions. Kerry is now traveling around to push for that peace plan while the whole area is in a chaos.
All the ingredients to destroy Syria have been used, demonization of Bashar al Assad, use of Qatar’s funded Moslem brotherhood, Saudi funded salafists, foreign fighters, freedom fighters, criminals, even palestinians.
The eventual danger that these elements may end up in neighboring countries has been prevented by reinforcing the army of these countries. The CIA even warned Lebanon’s Hezbollah about Al Qaeda bombing plans. The USA wants Syria destroyed not the neighbors.
Therefore Syria is left in a tightly closed “pressure cooker” until it calls for a deal with the Israel or is left to explode.
The USA wants the Syrian government to surrender to its will. Once the USA controls Syria through its proxy ( a Syrian Karzai) then it thinks that it can deal with areas occupied by the Islamists at a later stage by using the same approach they had in Afghanistan, drones etc…
The EU, once excited at the prospect of helping the rebels are now realizing that the US plan has more to do with weakening both the opposition and Syria to manipulate them into an Israel peace plan not a Syria peace plan.
On the other side, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah and the Syrian government are fully aware of that plan and are building a front to counteract.
For them, the highest priority is to eliminate Al Qaeda from Syria and push them toward Turkey. (Erdogan will have to deal with them as he is the ones that facilitate their entry in Syria).
After al Qusayr defeat of Al Nusra, the military coalition of the Syrian army and Hezbollah are advancing toward the North, pushing back the islamists fighters toward Turkey.
The UK, France and the USA reluctance to provide the FSA with weapons is exposing this military organization to total destruction as they must fight against the Syrian army as well as the Al Nusra organized, funded and armed by rich private Kuwaitis and Saudis.
The FSA may soon realize that they could survive against Al Qaeda’s vicious attacks only if they made some kind of deal with the Syrian army as they are now fighting the same enemy.
If this happens, the whole situation could transform itself.
Already in the SNC, it was reported that Jabra is ready at 100% to go to the Geneva conference without any pre or post conditions. He is now trying to get the FSA’s trust and agreement to do so.
The FSA has no other choice and it needs to protect itself from Al Nusra as it is watching its ‘liberated’ areas fall one after the other, either in the hands of Al Nusra or in the hands of the Syrian army.
If they want to save Syria from the total desintegration wished for by the USA and Israel, I believe the “new” SNC and the FSA will need to announce their participation to the Geneva conference.
July 16th, 2013, 12:50 pm
Alan said:
Al Qaida militia steps up attacks on pro-Western rebel forces in Syria
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/07/15/al-qaida-militia-steps-up-attacks-on-pro-western-rebel-forces-in-syria/
July 16th, 2013, 12:53 pm
revenire said:
If I were a Zionist I would not talk much about Assad.
July 16th, 2013, 12:59 pm
revenire said:
Comment was lost but the Afghan war was fomented by the West.
The architect talks about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski#Afghanistan
July 16th, 2013, 1:07 pm
Ziad said:
The Death Merchants of Tel Aviv
Haaretz reported today that there are more than 6,800 arms exporters working in Israel.
As of the end of 2012, there were “6,684 individuals dealing with security exports in 1,006 companies and 312 independent businesses. The Israeli Defence Export Controls Agency issued 1,900 marketing permits and 8,716 export permits.”
Apparently some 6,684 Israelis are making a living selling death around the world. They are serving an industry that produces more than 150,000 jobs. However, the most crucial question here is how did the Jewish State become a death factory? Early Zionism promised, indeed, to bring to the world a ‘new Jew’ – a productive, proletarian authentic human being driven by ethics and humanism. But, it didn’t take long for the Jewish State to reveal its real supremacist inclinations and plunderous pragmatism.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-death-merchants-of-tel-aviv.html
July 16th, 2013, 1:24 pm
revenire said:
Ask our resident Zionist about the Irgun. That usually causes him enough anxiety to silence him (or he goes back to blaming Assad for every ill on the planet).
Gee, now why would a Zionist hate Assad and Syria? Oh yeah, they are enemies.
July 16th, 2013, 1:31 pm
don said:
Can you imagine the loser Erdogan face now? hahahahahaha!
Egypt warns Turkey not to meddle in its affairs
(Reuters) – Egypt warned Turkey on Tuesday against interfering in its internal affairs following Ankara’s condemnation of the overthrow of President Mohamed Mursi, which has reoriented diplomatic relations across the region
“I consider the (Turkish) statements inappropriate and I consider it interference in Egyptian internal affairs,” presidential spokesman Ahmed Elmoslmany told reporters in Cairo.
Last week, Egypt summoned Turkey’s ambassador to protest about Ankara’s statements on developments in Cairo.
“I clearly say to Ankara, it should respect Egyptian sovereignty and the will of the Egyptian people. Egypt did not interfere in what happened in Taksim Square,” Elmoslmany said, referring to anti-government protests in Istanbul last month.
“Turkey has to understand it is speaking about a big country with a great history,” he added.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/16/us-egypt-protests-turkey-idUSBRE96F0R420130716
July 16th, 2013, 1:59 pm
Akbar Palace said:
SC Reaches New “Heights”
Gee, now why would a Zionist hate Assad…
Gee, what a stupid question.
July 16th, 2013, 2:05 pm
Mina said:
In the 21th century, slavery is LEGAL in Saudi Arabia
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/saudi-arabia-foreign-maids-must-respect-islam-and-obey-employers
“A domestic worker does not have the right to reject a work, or leave a job, without a valid reason…”
July 16th, 2013, 2:09 pm
revenire said:
Are Zionists ever honest?
July 16th, 2013, 2:28 pm
apple_mini said:
Opposition members here blame Assad for rampant Islamists and extremists among rebel ranks.
Yet once the opposition including Al Khatib declared this to the world: Today we are all Al Nusra.
The opposition have no shame!
July 16th, 2013, 2:29 pm
omen said:
yet another sign indicating unstated US policy is to appease iran & help enable shia regional control:
July 16th, 2013, 3:02 pm
omen said:
when has the cia ever warned civilians or rebels about impending regime attacks?
this shows clearly – despite whitehouse fake condemnations & fraudulent concern – which side the US is backing.
assadists with their BS imperialist conspiracy nonsense can shove it back where they pulled it from.
here’s breaking news: the empire supports the regime.
July 16th, 2013, 3:12 pm
Akbar Palace said:
here’s breaking news: the empire supports the regime
Omen,
“Empire” meaning the usal suspect? The US? Who in your estimation, DOESN’T support the regime? And what have they done to help Syrians?
And now back to Regime “Hasbara”:
Syrians fleeing war at rate not seen since Rwandan genocide: U.N.
U.N. Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights Ivan Simonovic told the Security Council that between March 2011 and the end of April 2013 at least 92,901 people were killed in Syria of which more than 6,500 were children.
She said 6.8 million Syrians need urgent humanitarian assistance, including more than 4.2 million internally displaced, and that almost half of those needing help were children. The latest assessment by the World Food Programme was that 4 million people can no longer meet their basic food needs.
Amos said another $3.1 billion was needed to help people in Syria and neighboring countries for the rest of the year.
There are more than 600,000 refugees registered in Lebanon, 160,000 in Iraq, 90,000 in Egypt and 1 million in Turkey and Jordan, said Guterres, who described the impact as “crushing.”
http://news.yahoo.com/syrians-fleeing-war-rate-not-seen-since-rwandan-181300143.html
July 16th, 2013, 3:25 pm
SimoHurtta said:
224. Akbar Palace said:
here’s breaking news: the empire supports the regime
Omen,
“Empire” meaning the usal suspect? The US? Who in your estimation, DOESN’T support the regime? And what have they done to help Syrians?
Akbar do Syrians really need these constant hypocritical comments of an Israeli right wing “occupation activist” and of a Californian,non Syrian,non Muslim twittermachine (= Omen @omen_99).
How many Syrian refugees has the rich Israel received? Some wounded jihadists, who with high likelihood they are not Syrians. On the same time the hilarious Israeli state is openly and without any shame bribing African leaders with weapons in order to be able to send the unwanted black refugees out of the Jewish Reich. Since the 1930’s no other nation has invented such a bold “solution” to get rid of the “wrong coloured people”.
Akbar today Israelis are full of rage towards EU when EU made it clear where the borders of Israel are. So Jews living in Golan are not living in Israel. Do you Akbar share our EU opinion? Your great “elected” leaders seem to be rather furious of outside criticism. Hmmmm democracy and tolerance you know …
July 16th, 2013, 5:21 pm
Syrian said:
Mr.”hardly a massacre ” is talking about shame !!
You would not know what shame is even if it hits you in the face.
July 16th, 2013, 5:25 pm
don said:
Turkish Firms May Lose Contracts After Egypt Ouster
ANKARA — Turkey’s emerging strategic alliance with Egypt’s Islamist administration has come to an abrupt halt, and Turkish officials and industry fear losing future contracts as Ankara becomes a vocal opponent of those who carried out the ouster in Cairo.
An Arab diplomat here said he expected “difficult times” in Turkish-Egyptian relations, which could disrupt economic relations unless the two nations pursue a pragmatic line.
“The Turkish industry, with the help of a looming alliance between Erdogan and Morsi, has been meticulously penetrating the Egyptian market since the fall of [former Egyptian President Hosni] Mubarak, especially after Morsi won the presidential elections in June 2012,” a London-based Turkey specialist said. “With Egypt’s new rulers now carefully noting down Erdogan’s hostile statements, I would think future contracts are being seriously jeopardized.”
One procurement official familiar with defense exports said: “This is going to be a period of political uncertainty both in Egypt and in Turkish-Egyptian relations. It is true that the political relations with Egypt worked as a lubricant for defense deals, although the Turkish industry at the same time successfully produced what the Egyptian Army needed. Honestly, I am not sure how we will progress under the circumstances.”
An aviation company executive said he hoped negotiations for deals would progress as normal, although he expressed suspicion. “Egypt was a looming market for a wide range of Turkish defense systems,” he said. “It is difficult to judge how much of their interest in the Turkish industry was politically motivated. We hope [Turkey’s] political relations with the new regime don’t turn tense.”
About 250 Turkish companies have a portfolio of $2 billion in investments in Egypt and $4 billion in exports. These figures exclude defense business.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130714/DEFFEAT02/307140010/Turkish-Firms-May-Lose-Contracts-After-Egypt-Ouster
July 16th, 2013, 5:35 pm
Syrialover said:
Here’s another important and urgent subject for SyriaComment (which will be of little interest to the “distraction faction” here of REVENIRE, ZOO, CITIZEN, ALAN and co because it involves those disposable non-people, Syrians).
It’s the sudden dramatic deterioration in the situation of Syrians in Egypt.
Egypt has suddenly made entry for Syrians almost impossible – including deporting arrivals – and Syrians inside Egypt are facing rising threats and violence against them as imagined supporters or opponents of Morsi.
Thousands of bewildered and desperate Syrians now find they are political pawns and scapegoats in the Egyptian crisis.
Egypt was one the few friendly havens and safe alternatives for Syrians. It was an important lifeline for everyone from refugees and political exiles to business people and regime types.
Being ignored in this chaos is the reality that Morsi was no friend of Syrians. The policy of welcoming Syrian refugees in Egypt was established in 2011 over a year before Morsi came to power.
Morsi stayed aligned with the Syrian regime, Russia and Iran up until the very last moment of his time in office when he suddenly bizarrely called for an Islamic jihad in Syria.
Also adding to the confusion are accusations about the Syrian opposition having an MB element (despite the fact its representation is the result of manipulations and cheating).
http://www.npr.org/2013/07/16/202566717/syrian-refugees-caught-up-in-egypts-political-crisis
July 16th, 2013, 5:44 pm
revenire said:
Akbar CNN was not there when Moses parted the Red Sea. Think about it.
July 16th, 2013, 5:46 pm
zoo said:
Aleppo University alive and kicking
Erdogan stripped of PhD;
DAMASCUS: Syria’s Aleppo University has stripped Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of an honorary doctorate citing his support for Syrian rebels and crackdown on Turkish protesters, state media reported on Tuesday.
State news agency SANA said Erdogan was being stripped of the PhD because of “his plots against the Syrian people” and his use of “arbitrary” violence against protesters in Turkey.
SANA quoted Khudur Orfaly, dean of Aleppo University, as describing the decision as “a message of solidarity to the friendly Turkish people, who reject Erdogan’s hostile policies.”
July 16th, 2013, 6:01 pm
AMEERA said:
يلي بيطلع من دارو بيئل مقدارو
حاجة شرشحة و تعتير و رجعوا على بيوتكم اشرفلكم على الاقل بتمتوا ببلدكم. يعني ما عاجبيتكم العيشة بمصر انضربوا على قلبكم و ارجعوا
July 16th, 2013, 6:23 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ameera said
اشرفلكم على الاقل بتمتوا ببلدكم
Thanks for your advise
Revenire
“Cnn was not there(parting red sea)”
Revenire, Was Assad media there?did Assad parted the red sea? who said Moses parted the red sea?,you are ignorant of the location,and ignorant of what happened
Don
Who needs the other more? Egypt needs Turkey,not the other way around, and what can Egypt do?
does Erdogan realy need Doctorate degree from Aleppo university?
Geneva 2
-Will fail.
– Assad will not give concessions,
– Opposition will not benefit, and will not give concessions.
The best is not to go.
The revolution is still going, they need to stop bickering,(Islamists and secularists),in the early 20th century Arab strongmen appeased England,Iraq Jordan and Egypt, since 1950, US took the lead of power from england, it is more difficult to depend on the US than to depend on England, The Arab countries has to depend on regional power, Turkey is natural Leader of Arabs, Persia is the enemy of Arabs.
July 16th, 2013, 7:18 pm
don said:
You’re next Erdogan the loser
The Egyptian coup is a warning to Turkey – but will Erdoğan listen?
Like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Erdogan’s AK party has alienated opponents.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/16/egyptian-coup-warning-will-erdogan-listen
July 16th, 2013, 7:32 pm
don said:
The end of Nazi Muslim Brotherhood everywhere
Erdogan’s Divisive Policies Backfire
With the coup in Egypt and events in Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s divisive policies appear to be working against his interests
In the end, Erdogan could not get what he wanted from Gezi Park. He could have said, “Right, the people don’t want it, we won’t do it,” and turned the process to his advantage before the upcoming elections.
We face a similar situation in foreign policy. The policies with Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Iran and the EU are built on tensions and prejudices. We want to go to Gaza to support Hamas but in the meanwhile our diplomatic power in the West Bank is eroding. The Palestinian Authority does not want Erdogan to come.
The developments in Egypt are good examples. Morsi respected Erdogan’s advice. If we had counseled a policy of tolerance based on plurality instead of polarization, the people of Egypt would not have opposed Morsi. Now people there have to find a way to reassemble a political structure that is on the verge of disintegration.
Even more ironic is that this policy of polarization serves nobody, including the Brotherhood, Hamas, the anti-[Bashar al-]Assad opposition and Iraqi Sunnis that we support. Instead of strengthening them, it serves to isolate them in the international arena.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/07/turkey-polarization-policies-backfire.html
July 16th, 2013, 8:01 pm
Ziad said:
EU takes tougher stance on Israeli settlements
‘Earthquake’ directive will prohibit EU states from signing deals with Israel unless settlement exclusion clause is included
Future agreements between the European Union and Israel must include the explicit exclusion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank or East Jerusalem, according to a new EU directive described by an Israeli official as an “earthquake”.
The EU guidelines, adopted on 30 June, will prohibit the issuing of grants, funding, prizes or scholarships unless a settlement exclusion clause is included. Israeli institutions and bodies situated across the pre-1967 Green Line will be automatically ineligible.
The Israeli government will be required to state in any future agreements with the EU that settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are outside the state of Israel.
http://linkis.com/gu.com/p/3hbb3/poua
July 16th, 2013, 8:13 pm
don said:
Israel Waging Undeclared War on Syria
Israel reflects the worst of rogue state governance. It’s contemptuous of international laws, treaties, conventions, its own statutes, and High Court decisions.
It’s out-of-control. It’s unaccountable. It makes its own rules. It maintains lawless militarized occupation harshness. It force-feeds austerity on its own citizens. It suffocates 1.7 million Gazans. It attacks other countries with impunity.
It’s waging undeclared war on Syria. It’s partnering with Washington doing so. It supports terrorist fighters. It supplies arms and munitions. It hospitalizes wounded ones.
Netanyahu lied saying Israel’s sole interest is preventing Syrian weapons transfers to Hezbollah. At issue is partnering with Washington’s war.
It’s about regime change. It’s about ravaging another country doing so. It’s about eliminating a regional rival.
Since conflict began in March 2011, Israel launched several cross-border ground attacks. It made one or more incursions. It conducted four air attacks. These incidents are acts of war. They’re lawless aggression.
No nation may attack another except in self-defense. Israel does it often. UN condemnation doesn’t follow.
US vetoes prevent Security Council action. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s a complicit imperial tool. He disgraces the office he holds. He betrays the world community.
He spurns his oath “to exercise in all loyalty, discretion and conscience the functions entrusted to (him) to discharge these functions and regulate (his) conduct with the interests of the United Nations only in view, and not to seek or accept instructions in regard to the performance of (his) duties from any government or other authority external to the Organization.”
He lets America and Israel get away with mass murder. He virtually ignores Israeli air attacks. Doing so lets them strike Syria with impunity.
His pro forma statements are deplorable. They’re offensive. They’re reprehensible. They reflect gross hypocrisy. Calling “on all sides to exercise maximum calm and restraint” shows contempt for UN Charter provisions.
Since January, Israel struck Syria four times by air. It acted preemptively. It did so lawlessly. It remains unaccountable for clear acts of war.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/07/15/18739884.php
July 16th, 2013, 8:19 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Don said
The end of Nazi Muslim Brotherhood everywhere
Fuad Ajami disagrees
إسلاميو مصر عُزلوا ولم يسقطوا
July 16th, 2013, 8:24 pm
Ghufran said:
Omen,
I do not believe the USA is in the business of appeasing Shia or Muslims in general. Decision makers in Washington since 1970 have been under the mercy of the Israeli lobby which is only worried about protecting Israel even against US interests if needed, however, the CIA and the few ” arabists” in the state department have argued that the Wahhabi branch of Islam, not the shi’a , is the biggest long term threat to US in the Middle East , Africa and Asia, not to mention their proven record of attacking or trying to attack western countries, there is now a growing belief that the conflict with Iran is mostly about its regional ambitions and that conflict will eventually come to an end, but that is not the case with Wahhabi militants. When was the last time you heard about a Shia terrorist attacking or trying to attack a civilian target in the US?
Terrorism does not have a religion but Al-Qaida terror network has a global reach, and that is a much bigger threat than the threat of Iran.
July 16th, 2013, 8:29 pm
Ziad said:
Syria rebels ‘beheaded a Christian and fed him to the dogs’ as fears grow over Islamist atrocities
Christian Andrei Arbashe, 38, was kidnapped and beheaded by rebel fighters in northern town of Ras Al-Ayn on the Turkish border
News came as pro-government forces celebrated their victory against rebels near Aleppo Airport
Syrian rebels beheaded a Christian man and fed his body to dogs, according to a nun who says the West is ignoring atrocities committed by Islamic extremists.
The nun said taxi driver Andrei Arbashe, 38, was kidnapped after his brother was heard complaining that fighters against the ruling regime behaved like bandits.
She said his headless corpse was found by the side of the road, surrounded by hungry dogs. He had recently married and was soon to be a father.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255103/Syria-rebels-beheaded-Christian-fed-dogs-fears-grow-Islamist-atrocities.html
July 16th, 2013, 8:36 pm
don said:
Attacking Syria: Israeli/Turkish Denials Ring Hollow
Washington uses Incirlik jointly with Turkey. Unconfirmed reports suggest Israel has warplanes there. Ankara’s a reliable imperial partner. So is Israel. It’s highly likely RT’s report is accurate.
Erdogan likely took a huge risk. He did so at a very precarious time. Turkish news is carefully filtered. Denials only were reported.
Erdogan wants the story buried. Western media said virtually nothing. Israeli officials refused comment.
Turkey may be biting off more than it can chew. Doing so may upset its longstanding plans. Erdogan risks being ousted. On the one hand, he wants good relations with Washington.
On the other, he needs to defuse popular anger. It continues for change he spurns. Crowds chant anti-government protests. “This is just the beginning,” they say. “The fight is continuing.”
Police respond violently. Doing so’s counterproductive. It doesn’t restore calm when it’s most needed.
Unanswered questions remain. Erdogan’s stonewalling. Allying with Israel against another Muslim state shows his alleged Palestinian support rings hollow. His concern about besieged Gazans is fake.
Strategic interests alone matter. Close ties to Washington further them. So does cooperating with Israel.
Turkey’s a NATO country. Membership comes with strings. It requires cooperating with other members. Israel’s a de facto one. It’s a Mediterranean Dialogue partner.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/07/16/attacking-syria-israeli-turkish-denials-
July 16th, 2013, 9:09 pm
Ziad said:
The end is very near for Bashar Al-Assad
سلوى المطيري ترسل قائد الجن في مهمة لقتل بشار الأسد و سيتم قتله بـ مسدس
July 16th, 2013, 9:14 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Comment by Ghufran 238
I fully agree with it
Sunnis in Islam are 90%, Shiaa are 10%, Sunnis are considered more Threat than Shiaa to the west,they hate both,they love for the two sects to fight
July 16th, 2013, 9:27 pm
Ziad said:
David Cameron accused of betraying Syrian rebels
Syria’s top rebel commander has accused David Cameron of betrayal after the Prime Minister abandoned plans to arm the Syrian opposition.
General Salim Idris, the head of the Free Syrian Army, said the decision would “leave us alone to be killed” by President Bashar al Assad, and pave the way for al-Qaeda to dominate the rebel ranks.
Mr Idris hit out in an interview with The Daily Telegraph after Downing Street confirmed that Mr Cameron had ruled out arming the opposition on advice from the British military. The government had previously hinted that it was strongly considering it, successfully lobbying two months ago for an end to the European Union arms embargo.
But military chiefs at Britain’s National Security Council are understood to have warned Downing Street that the conflict was now too advanced for basic weapons supplies to make much difference.
They said that could only be achieved by a much-larger scale intervention, involving jet strikes on regime air defences and bases, which Britain has already ruled out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10180820/David-Cameron-accused-of-betraying-Syrian-rebels.html
July 16th, 2013, 9:32 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Israel Waging Undeclared War on Syria
Don,
I hate to break this to you, but Syria DECLARED a state of war on Israel (aka The Zionist Entity) ever since Israel declared indepedence in 1948.
Conspiracies notwithstanding :o)
July 16th, 2013, 9:37 pm
Dawoud said:
237. majedkhaldoun
Islamist in Egypt came to power through free elections: they won the parliamentary elections, the presidency, and the constitutional referendum. Liberals and secularists in Egypt are mostly fascists and sore losers: they plotted with military for months, according to the WSJ, and they needed a military coup to get to power. Yet, General Sisi, and not the liberals, is the one who really controls power. Sooner or later, the generals and the secular fascists will lose in another popular revolution. They will outlaw and jail Islamists because Egyptian secularits/liberals cannot win free elections against the MB and other Islamists. I say this as an independent expert on Egypt, and I am not affiliated with the MB or any other religiously-motivated party.
Bashar, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, USA, EU, Ira’s al-Maliki,… are all in agreement in their support of the Egyptian military coup!
July 16th, 2013, 9:39 pm
don said:
Lawyers advised Obama providing weapons to Syrian rebels probably illegal
According to the Wall Street Journal, President Obama’s legal advisers have warned him since he first pledged support for the rebels that aiding them probably violates international law and could provoke a direct conflict with the Assad regime. The members of the so-called Lawyers Group of Obama’s top legal advisers gave him the advice. While this advice may partly explain why Obama has been reluctant to provide weapons aid directly, Obama may also believe that there may be no appetite among Americans to get too involved in the complicated and seemingly unstoppable civil war.
Some of the lawyers noted that when the Reagan administration backed Nicaragua’s Contra guerrillas in the 1980’s, the International Court of Justice ruled that the US was in “breach of its obligation under customary international law not to intervene in the affairs of another state.” Of course Reagan just dismissed the findings.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/15001897-lawyers-advised-obama-providing-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-probably-illegal
July 16th, 2013, 9:46 pm
Ziad said:
Interesting essay by Bassem Youssef on what if the events of June 30 failed to remove Mursi
ديليسيبس كما قالها الرئيس
لقد وضعنا الرئيس فى مسار تصادمى، بدلا من أن تكون الإجابة «احنا وانتم» اصبح السؤال «احنا ولا انتم؟»
يمكنك ان تغضب وتثور وتتباكى على غلق القنوات المحرضة لترضى ضميرك الحقوقى. يمكنك أن تجادل فى ما اذا كان ما حدث انقلاب عسكرى أو ثورة شعبية استجاب لها الجيش.
لكن اسأل نفسك ماذا لو كان البديل هو هذا الكون الموازى؟ هل كانت ستدافع عنك القنوات الدينية التى اتخذت من الشماتة والاستعلاء منهجا واتخذت من التحريض وخطاب الكراهية حرفة؟
نعم ما حدث من غلق القنوات وعزل القيادات خطأ وتعد على الحريات فى عالم مثالى. لكنك يا عزيزى لم تكن تعيش فى عالم مثالى. عزيزى الحالم بالتعايش، كيف تتعايش مع من يريد أن يرفع السلاح فى وجهك ويعتبر قتلك أو حبسك أو غلق منبرك الإعلامى نصرة للاسلام؟
عزيزى الإسلامى المتباكى على الديموقراطية أنت اغتصبت الديموقراطية وأنجبت منها سفاحا، أنجبت منها مولودا يسمى الأغلبية الغاشمة الظالمة المتفرعنة باسم الدين. أنت طالبت رئيسك بغلق القنوات وحاصرت مؤسسات القضاء وعذبت معرضى رئيسك فى الاتحادية وأرعبت مهندسا قبطيا لم يكن يستطيع أن يقول اسمه حتى لا يكشف دينه وهللت لسب الشيعة ولم تبال لقتلهم وفى النهاية كنت ستتغاضى عن غلق القنوات الخاصة لأنك كنت ستعتبر ذلك درءا للفتنة ونصرة للإسلام وقضاء على الفساد واستجابة للهتاف الخالد «طهر طهر فى الإعلام».
http://shorouknews.com/columns/view.aspx?cdate=09072013&id=8fb8fd22-afc8-45a2-8bc8-383db22465f0
July 16th, 2013, 9:50 pm
don said:
Ramadan in Egypt
‘No end in sight’ to Egypt crisis
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/07/17/lok-sayah-egypt-clashes.cnn
July 16th, 2013, 10:01 pm
revenire said:
This one is great boys. Enjoy.
Desparete Rebel in Homs Crying and Complaining About SAA, Hezbollah And FSA Commanders (English)
July 16th, 2013, 10:05 pm
Ghufran said:
I was clear from day one that the military in Egypt staged a coup but that coup has a lot of support inside and outside Egypt, and yes Morsi and the Islamists won the elections but by a THIN margin, we wanted, but not expected,the Islamists to understand that almost half of the Egyptians did not vote for Morsi and that Egyptians did not authorize the MB to control egypt, but that exactly what they tried to do. The tragedy in Egypt , and in Syria to a large extent, is that Arabs have not matured politically to the point where they are willing to share power, the Islamists in Egypt acted like the Baathists in Syria, and now the new leadership in Egypt and their friends in the media are acting like Baathists too. Please do not ignore the disease and focus on the symptoms, we as a nation, or nations, are not yet ready to embrace a western style democracy, foreign powers know that and they are playing with us, all of us, and we have responded like total idiots destroying our countries and spreading hate and violence, it is a perfect case of self destructive behavior.
July 16th, 2013, 10:16 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Dr. Dawoud,
I have a question for you regarding Egypt. The military takeover was definately a “coup”, so we are in agreement on this. However, the demonstrations were over 10 million! It was looking like a potential bloodbath between demonstrators and the government/military.
What could have been done differently? Isnt the new government going to conduct a new election fairly quickly? What is wrong with the liberals? Aren’t they pro-freedom and pro-human rights? It seems thee MB was enacting to many restrictive laws and giving to much power to the Islamists. Your take..
Btw, I tend to agree with Ghufran (believe it or not), but arabs can and must learn to share power. It is no one else’s fault.
July 16th, 2013, 10:26 pm
revenire said:
Mr Dave Expert 33 million Egyptians took to the streets to remove Morsi. That is democracy and surely a more legitimate vote than the Muslim Brotherhood’s.
July 16th, 2013, 10:27 pm
Ghufran said:
اَللَّهُمَّ اِنّي اَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ هَيَجانِ الْحِرْصِ، وَ سَوْرَةِ الْغَضَبِ، وَ غَلَبَةِ الْحَسَدِ، وَ ضَعْفِ الصَّبْرِ، وَ قِلَّةِ الْقَناعَةِ، وَ شَكاسَةِ الْخُلْقِ، وَ اِلْحاحِ الشَّهْوَةِ، وَ مَلَكَةِ الْحَمِيَّةِ، وَ مُتابَعَةِ الْهَوى، وَ مُخالَفَةِ الْهُدى، وَ سِنَةِ الْغَفْلَةِ، وَ تَعاطِي الْكُلْفَةِ، وَ ايثارِ الْباطِلِ عَلَى الْحَقِّ، وَ الْاِصْرارِ عَلَى الْمَأثَمِ.
وَ الْاِسْتِكْثارِ مِنَ الْمَعْصِيَةِ، وَ الْاِقْلالِ مِنَ الطَّاعَةِ، وَ مُباهاتِ الْمُكْثِرينَ، وَ الْاِزْراءِ عَلَى الْمُقِلّينَ، وَ سُوءِ الْوِلايَةِ عَلى مَنْ تَحْتَ اَيْدينا، وَ تَرْكِ الشُّكْرِ لِمَنِ اصْطَنَعَ الْعارِفَةَ عِنْدَنا، وَ اَنْ نَعْضُدَ ظالِماً، اَوْ نَخْذُلَ مَلْهُوفاً، اَوْ نَرُومَ ما لَيْسَ لَنا بِحَقٍّ، اَوْ نَقُولَ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ.
وَ نَعُوذُ بِكَ اَنْ نَنْطَوِيَ عَلى غَشِّ اَحَدٍ، وَ اَنْ نُعْجَبَ بِاَمْوالِنا وَ اَعْمالِنا، وَ اَنْ نُمَدَّ في امالِنا، وَ نَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ سُوءِ السَّريرَةِ، وَ احْتِقارِ الصَّغيرَةِ، وَ اَنْ يَسْتَحْوِذَ عَلَيْنا الشَّيْطانُ، اَوْ يَنْكُبَنَا الزَّمانُ، اَوْ يَتَهَضَّمَنا السُّلْطانُ.
وَ نَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ حُبِّ الْاِسْرافِ، وَ فِقْدانِ الْكَفافِ، وَ مِنْ شَماتَةِ الْاَعْداءِ، وَ الْفَقْرِ اِلَى الْاَصْدِقاءِ، وَ مِنْ عيشَةٍ في شِدَّةٍ، اَوْ مَوْتٍ عَلى غَيْرِ عُدَّةٍ، وَ نَعُوذُ اللَّهُمَّ بِكَ مِنَ الْحَسْرَةِ الْعُظْمى، وَ الْمُصيبَةِ الْكُبْرى، وَ مِنْ سُوءِ الْمَابِ، وَ حِرْمانِ الثَّوابِ، وَ حُلُولِ الْعِقابِ.
اَللَّهُمَّ اَعِذْنا مِنْ كُلِّ ذلِكَ بِرَحْمَتِكَ، وَ مَنِّكَ وَ جُودِكَ، اِنَّكَ عَلى كُلِّ شَيْ ءٍ قَديرٌ.
July 16th, 2013, 10:34 pm
revenire said:
Hezbollah: Soldiers of God Guardians of Lady Zainab
July 16th, 2013, 10:36 pm
dawoud said:
253. GHUFRAN
اللهم اني اعوذ بك من حزب الشيطان وحزب جرائم حرب القصير, وحزب حسن نصر الشيطان
July 16th, 2013, 10:58 pm
dawoud said:
251. AKBAR PALACE
Actually, the number of anti-Morsi demonstrators was a lie spread by the military and the Egyptian hypocritical media. Al-Wafd Newspaper (al-Wafd party and its leader Badawi are part of the anti-Morsi “National Salvation Front”) stated that the number of anti-Morsi demonstrators was 3 million against 14 million pro-Morsi demonstrators. Now, the number of demonstrators does not make a difference anyway because demonstrators can overthrow dictatorships, but NOT democratically-elected govermnets. I know that it’s not a perfect anology, but do you think that a 10-million Tea Partiers demonstrating agaisnt President Obama should make the Joint Chiefs of Staffs declare a military coup? This would rightly be treason and, in fact, it is high crime here in the United States to overthrow the goverment. In any case, the military had plotted for many months before the coup with the opposition to make Morsi fail, and then to overthow him. The WSJ had an article about this anti-Morsi conspiracy.
July 16th, 2013, 11:07 pm
dawoud said:
Now, the number of demonstrators does not make a difference anyway because demonstrators can overthrow dictatorships (like Bashar al-Assad’s), but NOT democratically-elected govermnets (like President Morsi’s). I can’t believe it, or maybe I should, that Iran, Bashar al-Assad, and Israel are all happy that President Morsi was overthrown by a military coup!
July 16th, 2013, 11:10 pm
dawoud said:
251. AKBAR PALACE
P.S., I don’t like you saying that “Arabs must learn how to share power!” It sounds racist, regradless of whether you mean it or not. Agreeing with Ghufran, the pro-regime guy, does not make it less racist by anybody who supports a murderous dictatorship is inherently biased against any democratically-electeed regime.
Now, I know that you like President GW Bush, and you know that he was “elected” by 500 votes in Florida after losing the popluar vote by 500,000 votes! VP Cheney wrote that from day one he didn’t believe that it should be a “coalition” government because he and GWB “won,” and they had the right to rule! Morsi had the same right, although it’s not true that he never compromised. In fact, he kept many ministers and officials from the military and Mubarak era (which I believe was a fatal mistake), and he never pushed for an Islamist agenda depiste what the oppositon says.
July 16th, 2013, 11:22 pm
AMEERA said:
شوفو شوفو كيف فلسطينية حماس مع مرسي و الاخوان
روحوا خرجكم ان شالله المصريين يطردوكم و يسكروا المعبر
يا خونة بدي افهم ليش عم تقتلو المدنين بمصر و سوريا
July 16th, 2013, 11:30 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Dr. Dawoud,
Thanks for the explanation. I didn’t have major issue with Morsi. I liked his toughness on Baathist Syria and his policies with the Zionist Entity. I thought he was a tough independent thinker. I don’t look at the MB as a bunch of rag-tag terrorists, I think of them like our Christian Right. Nevertheless, I don’t think they are doing enough to protect Christians and they seem to be stuffing too many government positions with Islamists.
I tend to appreciate liberals who value human rights and freedoms. Mind you I am conservative, but I am also liberal by ME standards.
Btw, sorry about the comment. It does seem democracy is a new phenomenom in the ME and it is proving difficult for many reasons. Also, fyi, I have to put up with s lot of anti-jewish crap as well, but it is no excuse.
July 16th, 2013, 11:30 pm
AMEERA said:
دخيلكم انتو ومرسي بياع الفول و الطعمية اصلا كتير عليه يكون بياع فلافل. ما شفتوا كيف لعب ببيضاتو لما شاف رئيسة الوزرا تبع استراليا
July 16th, 2013, 11:33 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Akbar
The estimated number is just estimation, it is not accurate democracy, the number is huge but I think it does not exceed 3 million,
But I think MB ostracized the other 48%of egyptians, Mursi should have accepted referendum.but he also should have worked with the other 48%, he was elected as president to ALL Egyptians.
And Akbar they promised election, they said soon, it is not soon, six month to a year is not soon, Sisi staged a coup,he was wrong, the army should not be politicized,he appointed Adly Mansour,who has had no contact with egyptians, and never was elected, Adly dissolved the parliament whose members were elected in a fair and transparent election, Adly as non elected person should not have done that,he is acting as a dictator, but controled by Sisi, further Adly closed media channels, put people in jail for stupid reason.
As Dawoud said this would not have happened in the USA, George Bush popularity after his election by six months dropped to less than 30%, people waited till 2008 election to throw the republican out.
Sisi will pay for his behaviour, MB will be re elected in the next election, and if Mursi is allowed to run he may well win what do you do next?
The charges against Mursi are absurd,a court found him non guilty before why do they want to retry him?
US should stand for democracy,and for human rights, but US is not going to.
July 16th, 2013, 11:45 pm
Ghufran said:
It is obvious that earning a phD degree does not make one an expert in democracy and history, it does not even qualify the person to pass a judgment that goes against common sense. Most of the NeoCons were graduates of Ivy league schools, usa prisons are full of phD holders who committed ” white collar ” crimes, zawahiri of al-Qaida has an MD degree, Bashar himself earned an MD degree and I was told by two of his classmates that he attended classes , took exams , borrowed handouts from peers, socialized with mostly sunni rich damascene students and was never looked at as a top physician, look at his judgment since 2011. The point is that wisdom can not be bought and many confused and low esteemed individuals seek a degree of some type to pretend that they are somebody they are NOT. I respect the hardwork behind degrees but that is where my respect ends.
Mr Daoud, congratulations on your phD, you have a lot to learn, son.
July 17th, 2013, 12:10 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Ghufran
That was insult to Dawoud, you always like to make enemies,You are in no way qualified to judge others, infact you are the last to do that
July 17th, 2013, 12:16 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Pro-regime Syrian politician shot dead in Lebanon: TV
July 17th, 2013, 12:47 am
Syrialover said:
Dear DAWOUD #245,
I watched the MB leadership in disbelief as the current crisis loomed in Egypt.
They had absolutely NOTHING to say, no vision to convey, no leadership messages, rational reassurances or debating points to connect them with the population.
It was impossible to imagine they had ever won a village council election, let alone in a large country.
Morsi and co acted as if the issues causing unrest, mainly rising despair about the economy and unease at their authoritarianism, were not worthy of discussion. Their attitude was that what the MB did in power was no-one’s business and they owed nobody any explanation.
The democratic model you feel has been violated, even without the vandalism inflicted on it by the MB, proved shakily inadequate and inappropriate for an immediate post-dictatorship situation.
Everyone in that phase is wearing L plates and feeling their way, and either the model or those operating it (preferably both) need to be capable of quick correction and swift evolution.
Democracy is much, much more than the ballot box.
While the system is being taken for a test run by whoever gets into office first, there needs to be strong default mechanisms to ensure the focus is kept on strengthening and stabilizing the economy and institutions of the state.
And in any attempt at democratic government, the priorities and actions of whoever is in power are headed for failure and derailment unless they have a measure of consensus, transparency and clearly conveyed justification.
All the above was way, way above the MB’s capabilities – or even awareness or interest. The system you feel should have been upheld at any cost was simply not built to survive the MB style of misrule and mess.
I am over feeling indignant about political Islamists being imprisoned. They need to get out of the way or grow up. To participate only if they stop being intellectually lazy and prove they can actually walk not just nonsensically talk. They are only dangerous spoilers not contributors to any developing political entity.
Don’t you feel DAWOUD that the chaos, waste and destruction that we now know political Islamists will inevitably deliver in office is too high a price for the people of the Middle East to bear?
July 17th, 2013, 12:52 am
mjabali said:
Muslim Brothers in Egypt did not have any real solutions for the real problems of ordinary Egyptians.
Also, the Muslim Brothers in Egypt did not respect the class of Egyptians who are educated and well to do, who were instrumental in bringing down the rule of Mubarak.
The Muslim Brothers did not have any answers to issues of Egyptian National Security, like the water issue with Ethiopia.
All of what the Muslim Brotherhood have are words and promises to be collected in the afterlife. When Egyptians looked for work and real life opportunities, the Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to offer.
July 17th, 2013, 12:57 am
Ghufran said:
Hijab 2.0 :
تتجه المعارضة السورية إلى تكليف رئيس جديد لتشكيل حكومة مؤقتة تتولى إدارة شؤون “المناطق المحررة”، خلفا لغسان هيتو. وكشفت مصادر في “الائتلاف الوطني لقوى الثورة والمعارضة السورية” لـ”الشرق الأوسط” أن “اسم رئيس الحكومة الجديد سيعلن خلال الاجتماع المقبل للهيئة العامة للائتلاف بعد شهر رمضان المبارك”، مشيرة إلى أن “المنافسة تنحصر بين المعارض أحمد طعمة الخضر، المقيم في الداخل السوري، وبين رئيس الوزراء المنشق رياض حجاب”.
Establishing a state in northern and eastern Syria if allowed will be an introduction to divide Syria into 3 states.
July 17th, 2013, 1:49 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
OMEN @ 165
Q: what does D-P mean? is the first word “dirty”?
D-P means Dog-Poop, and it is a dis-honorary degree awrded by University of Rodents, which is an unofficial branch of the University of Aleppo (Revolution University). It is not easy to receive such a dishonor, Saddam Husain almost made it, but after the buffoon athad jr. showed on the scene, it was awarded the degree exclusively and the University is in the opinion that it (meaning D-P athad) has put ths standards so low that no human can achieve for a long time. It is noted that the degree is very desirable and that many commentators on this site compete to receive it by advocating carpet bombing, hyperventilating about conspiracy theories, fear mongering, and outright sectarian commentaries stupidly pretending to be “secular”, among many other practices including not reading their own cuts and pastes. But so far, they are all deluded, for most only qualify for the dis-honorary certificate of (D-P bootlikcers).
MJABALI @ 182
As often, good call. Anyone who detests the assad clan and recognizes their destructive role is someone I can easily relate to no matter how much we differ on other issues.
SYRIALOVER @ 187
Yes, and it is a brilliant, informed, and thoughtful piece. Utter destruction has been a “trade-mark” for any russian engagement in developing countries and “semi-colonies”. A good russian friend of mine once told me, if you think western colonialists are racist, wait until you see the “collective” attitude of russians towards “third-worlders”. For me, such, lets call it “special view” of people from developing countries was more than evident in the dedication of low-quality, propaganda Universities for “third world students” such as the “Patrick Lumomba University” and the “University of Friendship Among Nations”, where, if what I am told is accurate; curricula was mostly propaganda and far less rigorous technically. Many Syrians who studied in Soviet Union avoided these universities like one avoids a plague, and struggled to get into real russian universities (some excellent institutions). An exception is noted for the comrades from the baath and communist parties, who received scholarships to the latter university and found a great refuge from hard studies in it until Romanian Universities (under comrade Nicolae Ceaucescu) became a good place for a cheap degree, which reminds me to ask D-P athad bootlickers:
Have you paid homnage to Ceaucescu’s grave today?
July 17th, 2013, 2:13 am
Ghufran said:
CSM:
Bombing campaign against Hezbollah claims first casualty in Lebanon
Hezbollah has been expecting Sunni retaliation for its support for the Syrian regime. A slew of roadside bomb attacks shows it has begun.
By Nicholas Blanford, Correspondent / July 16, 2013
July 17th, 2013, 2:15 am
Mina said:
#268
That’s exactly what the West wants: a piece of land for the Lebanese and Syrian Palestinian refugees, and another one for the Kurds.
They don’t like rival empires. Even when it’s an old history.
July 17th, 2013, 5:37 am
Alan said:
Israel Waging Undeclared War on Syria
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2013/07/israel-waging-undeclared-war-on-syria/
July 17th, 2013, 6:02 am
Alan said:
How may the recent order of the US President B.Obama about military equipment and weapons delivery to the leaders of NCSROP be justified, as far as it was considered the sole military legitime representative of the Syrians? Or, perhaps Obama has a right to ignore the national legislation being looked-out by American electors? And maybe ordinary US citizens-electors aren’t just aware of this fact?
http://journal-neo.org/2013/07/16/washington-s-arrangements-of-a-syrian-citadel-new-attack/
July 17th, 2013, 6:24 am
Akbar Palace said:
Sisi will pay for his behaviour, MB will be re elected in the next election, and if Mursi is allowed to run he may well win what do you do next?
Majedkhaldoun,
I understand your displeasure and disappointment, but I think Syrialover is right with his last post. I hope Egyptians can find a stable government that leads them in the right direction. They need to get the economy on track.
July 17th, 2013, 7:02 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
This is the syrian man killed in Lebanon yesterday
July 17th, 2013, 7:13 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Why should anyone want to kill Mohammad Jemo ? He only defended his saintity Hafez Al Assad of Syria and his succesor ? Any wrong in it ? Is this your democracy ? Killing someone who freely defend the killing, massacre and torture of syrian nationals?
July 17th, 2013, 7:43 am
Observer said:
I agree with Mjabali about MB assessment but removing them by force is illegal, immoral, stupid, and outright criminal.
Mob rule is not democracy.
The military follows civilian rule not the other way around. No wonder Athad is thrilled, he only knows to be a dictator.
They have got to fail to evolve and this coup is not going to do it. They have to be defeated at the ballot box that is the only way for them to evolve or disappear.
Also killing a pro regime mouth piece is doing exactly what the regime is best at and is unacceptable. He and others are free to say what they want and to express their views.
In the meantime the UNHCR is declaring that the Syrian refugee crisis is of Rwanda scale.
One last thing, removing Russian mines from Afghanistan working 7 days a week will take 200 YEARS. Yes 200 YEARS.
I know the Russian brutality. 95% of WWII prisoners of war in Russia died.
July 17th, 2013, 7:57 am
don said:
Wonderful news for OMEN!
Coptic Christian church destroyed by Egypt looters
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23339788
July 17th, 2013, 8:16 am
don said:
Get used to it! hehehehehehe!
276. Observer said: Mob rule is not democracy.
July 17th, 2013, 8:21 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Mursi has been ejected from power too late. He should have been fired the same day he amended the Constitution to remain in power for 40 years like Mubarak and Assad. And on the same day he should have been sent to jail to avoid more abuses.
If elections are not scheduled soon and MB are not allowed to elections then we are in front of another military coup and Mr. Sissi could be in power for 40 years too.
The idea is clear: let’s imprison from now on anyone who tries to use democracy to stay in power forever. And let’s kill or impal inmediately anyone who becomes a dicator like disgusting Assad and Mubarak parias.
July 17th, 2013, 9:09 am
Syrialover said:
It’s much deeper than “Arabs must learn to share power”.
There has to be a realization by 1. those hustling their way through the ballot box and 2. the electorate, that democracy involves a lot of very hard, tedious and complicated work.
This is why I accuse political Islamists of being intellectually lazy. They have their own make-it-up-as-you-go-along way of doing things, ignoring the nations in-tray in favour of power impulses, shallow formulas, rhetoric, distractionist agendas and fantasies.
It was interesting to watch Morsi’s blank face when confronted with the requirements of running a country properly. No thanks, not for the MB the feasibility studies, special inquiries and reports, expert advisers, committees, negotiations, debates, ballots, public accountability, due process and all that other hard stuff that lies behind decisions and policies in western democracies.
OBSERVER, #276 I don’t classify removing the MB as immoral and criminal. It was a default survival mechanism. Egypt was under misrule and being ruined at top speed, it was a case of emergency surgery.
They are lucky they had an army to turn to as an alternative to seething mob rule and anarchic civil backlash against the MB’s disastrous incompetence, ignorance, arrogance and LAZINESS.
The same qualities that are the hallmark of the Assad regime, where they are packaged in addition with lies, cruelty and corruption.
Let’s hope Egypt’s experience with the MB will be a reality check and benchmark test for those seeking a role in running post-Assad Syria.
July 17th, 2013, 9:17 am
Syrialover said:
Great contrast – what normal humans see vs what Assad’s shabiha and media see:
https://twitter.com/emmasuleiman/status/357416310247915522/photo/1
July 17th, 2013, 9:31 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Syrialover
I disagree that democracy is not ballot box , free transparent honest election is democracy, you will not find many people agree with your idea.
SL
the point that me and you disagree on is freedom I support freedom, democracy is shaddow of freedom, and overthrowing democracy is immoral and criminal. you must respect people will or you are against democracy and against freedom, that is not acceptable.
democracy allows for change in leadership,depending on performance
July 17th, 2013, 9:33 am
Syrialover said:
MAJEDKHALDOUN #282,
Wait, I didn’t say democracy is not the ballot box, I said:
“Democracy is much, much more than the ballot box.”
In real life democracy requires a lot of hard work that groups like the MB don’t want to know about.
To requote: “[it is] the feasibility studies, special inquiries and reports, expert advisers, committees, negotiations, debates, ballots, public accountability, due process and all that other hard stuff that lies behind decisions and policies in western democracies”
Without all the above and a hell of a lot more, you can’t have a functioning democracy.
Democracy is not for the lazy. Sitting on a stuffed ballot box like a king on a throne is not democracy. That’s ignorance and incompetence and mocks and destroys democracy.
You also say I am not for freedom and you are.
Sorry, freedom to do what? To manipulate a premature election that doesn’t offer adequate choice and then do what the MB did? That’s theft of other peoples freedom, of an entire country’s freedom.
July 17th, 2013, 10:40 am
Ziad said:
West losing on all fronts in Syria
Not only are the US, Britain and France losing their criminal covert military war for regime change in Syria, these state terrorists are also caving in on the propaganda front.
Such a criminal conspiracy was bound to fail sooner or later. Now, its weight of falsehoods and lies are imploding. The arrival of the UN chemical weapons inspection team this week in Damascus marks another hammer blow against Western malicious designs on Syria.
The UN seems set to finally comply with the Syrian government’s terms for investigating competing claims about the use of deadly chemical weapons in Syria. President Bashar Al Assad and the Damascus authorities have consistently alleged that it is Western-backed mercenaries who have used the internationally banned weapons, while the Western powers have charged that it is the Syrian state forces.
http://nsnbc.me/2013/07/17/west-losing-on-all-fronts-in-syria/
July 17th, 2013, 11:23 am
Ziad said:
Interesting article about Islamic extremism engulfing also converts in western countries and the level of pretentious Preaching that resembles TV Wrestling matches.
الإسلامجية ومصارعة المحترفين
نحن نعتقد أن الإسلام المتطرف الذى خرج علينا فى السنوات الأخيرة محصور فقط فى منطقتنا العربية. ولكن الحقيقة أنه قد تم تصديره إلى أوروبا، وأمريكا وأصبح له مريدون ومدافعون ليس فقط من الجنسيات العربية أو المهاجرين بل من أصول أمريكية وأفريقية ولاتينية يعيشون فى أمريكا وأوروبا.
من هذه النماذج شخصية اسمها عمر لى «Umar Lee».. عمر لى اشتهر فى وسائل التواصل الاجتماعى كمدافع شرس عن الإسلام.، لكنه لا يهاجم فقط الغرب الإمبريالى الكافر الذى يعيش فى كنفه، يتمتع بحرياته ولكنه يهاجم المسلمىن والمسلمات أبناء دينه الذين باعوا مبادئهم ودينهم للغرب. فهو يهاجم السيدات المسلمات المحجبات لأنهن لا يرتدىن الحجاب كما يجب، بل بدلا من تسميتهن بالإنجليزية «»Hijabis» أى محجبات، هاجمهن وأطلق عليهن «HOEjabis» أى عاهرات يرتدين الحجاب.
عمر لى.. يهاجم المسلمين الذين يحاولون التعايش مع الغرب ويحاولون إعطاء فكرة جيدة ومختلفة عن الإسلام. فبالنسبة له هؤلاء منافقون يحاولون تمييع الدين.
عمر لى.. ليس مجرد مدون أو محارب على الإنترنت. فهذا الرجل لديه الكثير من المريدين الذين يصرخون ويشجعون حين يهاجم أعداء الإسلام. فهاهو يطرح هذا الشيخ الوسطى أرضا، وهاهو يرمى شخصية مسلمة عاقلة على الأحبال. وهاهو يهزم شخصية مسلمة وسطية ثالثا بلمس الأكتاف.
ولاستكمال المنظر التمثيلى الذى نراه على حلبات المصارعة فقد سمى نفسه «THE CORRECTIFIER» أو المصحح الذى يصحح للمسلمين دينهم بما أن إيمانهم كما هو حاليا غير كاف. بل إنه يفتخر بتصوير نفسه بالسيف العربى ليهدد به أعداء الدين مثلما يخرج أبطال المصارعة إلى الحلبة حاملين الفؤوس والاسلحة دليلا على القوة والجبروت.
http://shorouknews.com/columns/view.aspx?cdate=25062013&id=d5967ee0-4696-4c85-a6e5-5fb35aae24e4
July 17th, 2013, 12:17 pm
SimoHurtta said:
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One last thing, removing Russian mines from Afghanistan working 7 days a week will take 200 YEARS. Yes 200 YEARS.
I know the Russian brutality. 95% of WWII prisoners of war in Russia died.
Yes you “know”. From where do you Observer dig your propaganda? From the tweets Omen sends?
Finns counted that in the war against Soviet Union in 1941-44 3,400 Finns were captured by Russians. Soviet Union’s own official statistics said that 2,400 Finnish war prisoners of whom 1,950 were returned alive. Finnish statistics claim that around 1,300 war prisoners died in captivity and soviet statistics claim 400.
On the other side Finland had 64,000 soviet soldiers as war prisoners. Of them 18,700 died on prison camps. Like on all prison camps around the world the mortality was extremely high because of overcrowding, poor hygienic and food situation. At the peak of the mortality there was very little food left in Finland and the advancing Finnish army took “too much” prisoners.
Wiki tells that Soviet forces captured around 3 million German soldiers and around 2 million returned.
A Finnish reporter, who was actively reporting among the Afghan guerilla in the 80’s and later now during the US occupation, told, that in even the Russians are more liked/respected in Afghanistan than Americans. And that is a real “achievement”.
How many thousand of years takes it to clean Afghanistan and Iraq from the DU (depleted uranium) US troops have “donated” to those nations children? The amounts of bombs and mines Soviets used in Afghanistan was a fragment of what USA used in Vietnam and Laos. US dropped more than two million tons of ordnance on Laos during 580,000 bombing missions. Wow, that is a massive donation of “democracy” to a nation against which USA did not even declare a war.
July 17th, 2013, 12:44 pm
Alan said:
https://twitter.com/1_remon/status/343441820660932608/photo/1
July 17th, 2013, 12:45 pm
Alan said:
لا رمضان في حلب بلا غزل البنات
http://www.startimes.com/?t=31257254
غزل البنات.. يتكون من السكر المذاب “القطر”، الطحين المحمص، والحشوة التي هي على الأكثر فستق حلبي محمص، أو قشطة مع الفستق أو حسب ما يرغب الزبون (لوز، جوز…).
أما طريقة صنعها، وكما ذكرت سابقاً فبدايتها كانت عن طريق الصدفة، ثم بتوالي التجارب تم التوصل إلى هذه الطريقة اليديوية والتي لا يمكن إدخال المكننة إليها، لأنها تعتمد على روح وخبرة العامل، كما تتطلب الإحساس بحرارة “القطر السميك” للمضي في إتمام باقي المعالجة…
يتم عجن القطر حتى تنخفض حرارته إلى درجة معينة ويتحول لونه إلى الأبيض بتفاعله مع الأكسجين، ثم يتم تحريكه مع الطحين في وعاء كبير مضافاً إليه عطر الورد، حتى تتكون الخيوط ويتشكل “الغزل” الذي يصبح لاحقاً غزل البنات.
July 17th, 2013, 1:07 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
It is nonsense trying to defend US, Russian or Assad armies. They are the same shixxx and those who defend and justify their atrocities are simply wild beasts without a brain to understand human failures during last 12.000 years. Assad, Obama or Putin are not the problem, the real problem is the dirty emtpy headed and garbage seekers peoples who support their politics. Civil societies behind real changes and revolutions will never agree those shixxx politics and their armies.
July 17th, 2013, 1:12 pm
Alan said:
Britain’s Chemical Sales To Syria Revealed
http://news.sky.com/story/1116687/britains-chemical-sales-to-syria-revealed
Britain has sold industrial materials to Syria that could have been used to make chemical weapons, according to a new report by MPs on arms sales.
July 17th, 2013, 1:13 pm
Ziad said:
274. SANDRO LOEWE said:
“This is the syrian man killed in Lebanon yesterday”
This is the freedom of speech the revolution is fighting for.
https://twitter.com/ranimkattaw/status/357526728790401024/photo/1
July 17th, 2013, 1:24 pm
Sami said:
I love how folks excuse a wrong by pointing out a wrong somewhere else. As if two wrongs makes it right somehow…
This is the most shallow and amoral argument one can make, for rather than condemning the obvious they try excuse it by juxtaposing it with another situation that might somehow downplay the veracity of the obvious.
July 17th, 2013, 1:25 pm
don said:
Morsi the monster was turning Egypt into a Taliban state
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2013/07/17/wedeman-egypt-in-crisis-reflection.cnn
July 17th, 2013, 1:33 pm
Alan said:
As imagine utopia, or imagine to the island on the surface of the moon! Wars are a Western capitalist approach primarily
Let Civil societies start the real changes from the west side of the globe to benefit from their gleaming experiences !
http://youtu.be/6pFcb3eD6Wk?t=11m23s
July 17th, 2013, 1:39 pm
ghufran said:
In a serious blow to Nusra, Kurdish fighters are reported to be very close to declaring Ras Al-Ain free from Nusra and other Islamist militias (there are no government troops or police in that town). Turkey has the most to lose if border areas fall under Kurdish control, the bad news for Erdogang is that the tides are turning against him and his Turkish MB party especially after the removal of Morsi, the change in Qatar and the failure of his buddy HBJ to score a decisive military victory in Syria, and to make things worse Erdugang now needs to worry about Egypt becoming another foe:
مصر: الأمن المصري يحبط محاولة إدخال شحنة أسلحة الى بورسعيد قادمة من ميناء أزمير في تركيا
The list of intellectual thugs keeps growing on this forum, I have no respect for anybody who justifies the murder of political opponents who did not commit a crime punishable by death, the assassination of Jimmo and other non violent political activists, as wrong as they might be, is what made it next to impossible for this uprising to win wide public support, people have realized that rebels are worse than the regime and that they failed to unify or come up with any credible plan to save Syria.
Mr sandro, your statement justifying political murders speak volume about you, this is what Jimmo said before he was killed:
محمد ضرار جمّو يقول قبل 24 ساعة من اغتياله فجر اليوم في بلدة الصرفند اللبنانية إنّ الجيش السوري سيطر على 70% من ريف دمشق ويستعد لإعلان حمص آمنة في عيد الفطر، وإنّ العمليات المفاجئة ستكون في حلب.
July 17th, 2013, 2:06 pm
revenire said:
Lots of good news lately. Things are going GREAT for the SAA and Assad.
Idris accused Cameron of betraying the FSA: “The West promises and promises. This is a joke now. Soon there will be no FSA to arm.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10180820/David-Cameron-accused-of-betraying-Syrian-rebels.html
July 17th, 2013, 2:07 pm
ghufran said:
السؤال الأول الذي يراود المغتربين السوريين: ما هي حال طريق مطار
دمشق؟ وفي الطريق إلى المطار يختصر المشهد وضع ريف دمشق بأكمله.
الرهبة تعلو وجوه ركاب السيارات المتجهة إلى مطار دمشق الواقفة على الحاجز الأول الواقع في منطقة القزاز، حيث وقع الانفجار الشهير. سيلفتك منظر البيوت المتهدمة في المنطقة القريبة من وسط دمشق. معظم الواقفين للتفتيش على الحاجز العسكري يذهبون إلى المطار بغرض السفر خارج البلاد، يحملون هواجسهم عن الطريق أو أصوات الحرب التي تملأ سماء دمشق، كصورة أخيرة عن وطنهم المنكوب. بعضهم الآخر يتجه، للمرة الأولى منذ أشهر، لاستقبال أحد الأقارب المغتربين، والقلق بادٍ على الوجوه.
«سيطلب إلينا عناصر الجيش العودة إن لم يكن الطريق آمناً»، جملة تسمعها من أشخاص عدة، تحمل القليل من التفاؤل في ما يخص مصير المارّين على الطريق. على طرفي الطريق تبدأ مشاهد الخراب التي تشكّل وجه دمشق الأخيرة في نظر المسافرين. البعض يغمض عينيه كي لا يرى مناظر الخراب، محاولاً أن يستذكر سهرة الليلة الماضية أمام أضواء قاسيون وبيوت دمشق اللامعة تحته.
أصوات الرصاص والقصف تبدو أقرب مع الوصول إلى محاذاة بيت سحم، التي تفصل الأوتوستراد الدولي عن ببيلا والمفارق المغلقة خلالها للوصول إلى مخيم اليرموك، الواقع تحت أيدي مسلّحي «جبهة النصرة».
لن تمنع نفسك من سؤال السائق عن المنطقة وما جرى فيها؛ إذ شهدت تصاعداً مخيفاً للعنف خلال الشتاء الفائت، ما أدى إلى إغلاق المطار فترة طويلة، إلى أن سيطر الجيش على المناطق المحيطة، بعد أن أجرى تمشيطاً كاملاً لمنع تسارع الأحداث بنحو يوقع المطار الدولي تحت سيطرة المعارضة المسلحة.
مشاهد عنيفة من الخراب، يفصلها الأوتوستراد عن مبانٍ وادعة قائمة، على الجهة المقابلة، وكأنها من بلد آخر. إنها جرمانا. يمكن من النظرة العامة إلى طريق المطار أن تقرأ مخاوف أهل جرمانا، وهي المنطقة المختلطة طائفياً والآمنة نسبياً. فعلى تخومها يرابط مسلحو المعارضة في المناطق القريبة.
وهذه المناطق الجارة هي مراكز انطلاق القذائف باتجاهها. قذائف ما زالت تسقط على مبانيها بين يوم وآخر، ورغم تأمين المناطق المحيطة مباشرةً، التي تحاصر جرمانا من جميع الجهات، لم تتوقف القذائف، حتى بعد تأمين طريق المطار؛ إذ إن الأوضاع الأمنية السيئة في مناطق كفربطنا وحمورية وسقبا، وصولاً إلى المليحة، تفرض على أهل جرمانا ألا يتفاءلوا كثيراً.
أحد الجسور ضمن طريق المطار متآكل في أحد طرفيه. يقول السائق: «هُنا كانت الاشتباكات».
لا ريب إذاً في إغلاق المطار مرات عدة خلال الأشهر الماضية. الخطّ المعدني الفاصل بين جانبي الطريق محطّم بعض أجزائه، موحياً بالكثير من العنف الماضي. لافتة تشير إلى اتجاه بلدة السيدة زينب والقرى المشتعلة من حولها كالذيابية والحسينية. حاجز يغلق الطريق إليها، مشدّداً على المارين. أراضي عقربا تلوح واسعة، إلا أنها آمنة ظاهرياً. لا أحد يستطيع توقع ما ستنتجه الأيام المقبلة، على الرغم من وضوح القبضة العسكرية الممسكة بزمام الأمور على طول طريق المطار والمناطق المحيطة به.
العمليات التي تجري بالقرب من هذه المناطق تعطي طمأنينة للعسكريين الموجودين، حيث تردهم الأخبار الجيدة بعد أشهر طويلة من سيطرة «الجيش الحر» على عدد من بلدات الغوطة الشرقية. مفرق الدخول إلى مدينة الأرض السعيدة يبدو كئيباً، فلم تعد الأرض سعيدة بعد ما شهدته من معارك. ولم تعد فخامة مطاعم طريق المطار مجدية، لجذب أهل دمشق وضيوفهم بعدما حل الموت والدمار ضيفين ثقيلين على المنطقة. وفي الجزء الأخير من الطريق قبل الوصول إلى المطار، تلوح قرية الغزلانية. متاريس متصلة على طول الطريق بين الأوتوستراد والقرية، لتصبح مفصولة بشكل تام. مطارات عسكرية تحت سيطرة الدولة السورية هي ما يميزه المرء قبل المطار المدني.
المتاريس الترابية محيطة فيها بشكل كامل منعاً للاقتراب أو التقاط الصور.
داخل حرم المطار يودّع السوريون بعضهم بعضاً؛ إذ لا أعداد ملحوظة من الغرباء بين زوار البلاد. بعض المسافرين يصلون مبتسمين لذويهم، إنما نظراتهم متحفّزة لما سيرونه في البلد الذي شغلت أخباره العالم، ولا سيّما أن المشهد الأول الذي تقع عليه عيون الواصلين هو «هنغار» مدمّر بعد هبوط قذائف ضمن أرض المطار، الواقع على بعد 25 متراً جنوب شرق دمشق. خلف المطار تقع بلدتا حران العواميد والعتيبة، حيث كانت إحدى المناطق التي اتهمت السلطات السورية المعارضة المسلحة باستخدام الأسلحة الكيماوية، لأول مرة في دمشق، ضد عناصر الجيش السوري. المطار يبدو صامداً، يعبّر عن تركيز الدولة السورية على معارك الغوطة الشرقية؛ إذ شهد محاولات لضربه من قبل مسلحي المعارضة الشهر الفائت، ما أدى إلى تعطيل الرحلات موقتاً.
يبدو المطار المتواضع في تجهيزاته مكاناً مناسباً للسوريين اليوم لوداع بعضهم بعضاً، ومسح دموع المسافرين خارج وطنهم حاملين معهم خوفهم على من خلّفوه وراءهم من أهل وذكريات غابت، لتحل مكانها صور الخراب.
I do not own the above piece, the author did not write his/her name.
This is what Marah Al-Bika’ei wrote on her facebook page about the murder of Jimmo:
كتبت المُعارضة السورية : بوقا من ابواق النظام قد خمدت انفاسه رميا بالرصاص في جنوب لبنان بعد إطلاق النار عليه.
marah later on deleted the post but it was too late, the damage is done.
July 17th, 2013, 2:14 pm
don said:
The rage that the masses have been trained with to react to the verdict of the George Zimmerman case is the type of rage that should be directed towards the US government for openly spying on its people, for continuing the funding of terrorists against other foreign governments such as Libya and now Syria, and for the continuing of the failed war on terror.
Now is the time for us as humans and citizens to see past this puppet show that is an effort to divide us when we could instead unite take back our country and restore true freedom. Let’s march and riot about Bradley Manning, about Syria, about the NSA spying and the governments lies and the eradication of our rights. There is no need for senseless violence and mudslinging against each other when it is clear where our anger should be directed towards perserving freedom and news that matters!
http://www.themediaspeaks.com/2013/07/16/the-msm-and-obama-exploit-zimmerman-case-to-promote-racial-division-anti-gun-agenda/
July 17th, 2013, 2:57 pm
don said:
Morsi the Islamist Tyrant Dictator Beast is gone
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/international/2013/07/17/intv-idesk-naguib-swairis.cnn
July 17th, 2013, 4:11 pm
don said:
Wired magazine proudly celebrate the manufacturers of evil and death in a school yard in Aleppo
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/diy-arms-syria/
July 17th, 2013, 4:28 pm
ghufran said:
تصريح صحفي
الائتلاف الوطني السوري
المكتب الإعلامي
16 تموز 2013
في خرق فاضح لجميع الأعراف الدولية والإنسانية يستمر النظام في اعتماد استراتيجية خبيثة تقوم قواته من خلالها، بشكل متعمد ومتكرر، باستدراج المواطنين في مناطق الاشتباك والحصار، بدعوى التفاوض لوقف إطلاق النار أو لإخلاء المدنيين، ثم تقوم بقتل الوفود أو الوسطاء الذين يلبون الدعوة مغامرين بحياتهم أملاً في حقن الدماء وتجنب وقوع المجازر رغم شكوكهم التي سرعان ما تتحقق.
وفي مناسبات أخرى سمحت القوات النظامية لبعض الأهالي بالدخول إلى المناطق المحاصرة من أجل إخلاء المصابين والمحاصرين، ثم ما لبثت أن أطلقت النار عليهم وقتلت وجرحت عدداً منهم.
ويوم أمس قامت قوات اللجان الشعبية التابعة لقوات نظام الأسد بقتل سبعة رجال من لجنة المصالحة القادمين من بلدة الزارة بريف حمص في محاولة لوضع حد للواقع المأساوي الذي تعاني منه القرية منذ شهور، حيث توجه وفد اللجنة الأعزل إلى بلدة قميرة المجاورة للتفاوض على إدخال الطعام والأغذية والمعونات لسكانها، ولكن شبيحة النظام قاموا بإعدامهم عند حاجز قريب.
يثبت التمادي المفرط لنظام الأسد في القتل ورفض كل المبادرات الرامية لحقن الدماء أو إعلان هدنة لإجلاء المحاصرين؛ بأنه غير جاد على الإطلاق في إيجاد أي حل للأزمة، وبأن سلوكه العبثي يهدف في المقام الأول إلى حرق الحلول وكسب الوقت وإغراق البلاد في مزيد من الفوضى مع التحقق من إجهاض أي حل ينقذ المدنيين.
July 17th, 2013, 4:59 pm
omen said:
akbar,
July 17th, 2013, 5:04 pm
ghufran said:
Israel’s position on arming the rebels and all other issues related to Syria is dictated by a clear objective: making sure that there is nobody around Israel who is able to oppose Israel regional hegemony and its continued occupation of Arab land.
A victory by either side is not in Israel’s best interest but the destruction and weakening of Syria is.
July 17th, 2013, 5:24 pm
omen said:
rest of article.
haaretz ran misleading title. hid the kicker at bottom of article:
July 17th, 2013, 5:38 pm
Syrialover said:
#302. GHUFRAN
So are you telling us that Israel feels having a failed state next door is in its best interests.
July 17th, 2013, 5:51 pm
apple_mini said:
They shot Jimmbo 30 times in front of his daughter and wife.
Great job, the rebels. And fantastic work for the opposition for justifying that kind of murder.
We won’t forget and we won’t forgive.
July 17th, 2013, 5:51 pm
omen said:
in a choice between protecting israel and securing oil routes. the latter trumps the former. the carter doctrine states the u.s. will take whatever means necessary to ensure national energy demands are met.
slick semantics “target in the US.”
that’s supposed to prevent me from bringing up shia terrorism against americans in iraq & hezbollah’s bombing of marine base in beirut.
you can wave your bloody al qaeda shirt all you want. truth is regime colluded with al qaeda to kill americans.
i don’t argue iran is a threat. i’ve been arguing the u.s. is trying to bring iran in out from the cold and turn it once again into a western ally. even if it has to sacrifice syrian lives to do so.
July 17th, 2013, 5:58 pm
omen said:
now the west is funding hezbollah, just like the un/u.s. funneled money to regime via syria red crescent:
July 17th, 2013, 6:07 pm
Syrialover said:
I have been watching the veteran rigid leftist SIMOHURTTA’s comments. These are about a range of different things but appear to be programmed to automatically include a put down of the west and a special kick to Amerika. Even if it contorts and tugs the argument in irrelevant and extreme directions.
But #286 is especially good and I am going to file it as a wonderful example of that mindset.
It shows SIMOHURTTA is so driven to land punches on the west he dismisses Russia’s treatment of prisoners in WWII and praises its behaviour in Afghanistan.
This is not objective and realistic stuff – it’s obsessive compulsion.
July 17th, 2013, 6:23 pm
ghufran said:
Omen,
I hope I did not touch a raw nerve when I spoke the truth about Israel and the Islamists, I am not sure which one of the two you are supportive of. Israel helped Hamas in the 1980s in an attempt to weaken the PLO, then 20 years later Hamas became “the enemy”, Israel today is doing the same thing with the Syrian rebels. There is no doubt that Israel is a big part of the problems in the Middle East but not the only reason why that region is plagued with wars and conflict. So, Mr Omen, are you about to spell the bean and talk to us about your true background?
I guess not, that will “hurt” the cause of free speech !!
More potential problems for Zero Mashakel Erdugang:
مصر: اللواء حمدي بخيت الخبير الأمني والاستراتيجي: مصدر جميع الأسلحة التي تم ضبطها مؤخراً هو تركيا، ولابد من إدانتها دولياً
July 17th, 2013, 6:27 pm
Akbar Palace said:
The Assad Regime is Winning now for 2 years Straight NewZ
I think Sami is right on target when he said:
291. Sami said:
I love how folks excuse a wrong by pointing out a wrong somewhere else.
The main reason Israel is mentioned on this website is so regime supporters like Reverse, Citizen, and Triad can deflect the horrendous news coming out of the ME, especially from Syria.
Nevertheless, there are a few who generally have questions or want to make a point like Omen:
Israel has in recent weeks scaled back its opposition to the arming of rebels in Syria…
Israel is trying to stay out of the conflict and doesn’t want to help anyone win. If Israel were to outwardly aide one side, that side would be vilified. Even if the news of a few arms reaching one side, and Israel would be toast. And there are dangers for Israel no matter which side wins. Israel is forced to distance herself as far as possible. Long term, however, the opposition should be supported including freedom and democracy.
Israel’s position on arming the rebels and all other issues related to Syria is dictated by a clear objective: making sure that there is nobody around Israel who is able to oppose Israel regional hegemony and its continued occupation of Arab land.
Israel would much rather live in peace with her neighbors than be forced continuously to be better technologically and qualitatively. Israel can fair well without an occupation just like she did from ’48 to ’67. The remaining outstanding issues with the Palestinians are a few square kilometers and which stones of the Old City is under whose sovereignty. Really not a major issue, except that the Palis will have to sign away all further claims which is a LARGE pill to swallow, one that Arafat couldn’t deal with.
July 17th, 2013, 6:43 pm
Syrialover said:
Badly wounded Syrians were kicked out of a Lebanese hospital by force onto the roadside (see photo and video).
The Syrians’ hospital costs and medicine and equipment for the hospital staff had been paid for by refugee charities but were kept by the hospital.
Everybody please note the names of the disgusting Lebanese hospital bosses who did this as part of some dispute they were having with each other:
Dr. Amer Ulm Al-Deen and Marwan Al-Kalal – special large print on the dishonour role for shaming the medical profession and profiteering from war victims.
http://nmsyria.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/wounded-syrians-kicked-out-of-lebanese-hospital/
July 17th, 2013, 6:45 pm
AMEERA said:
وينك يا تارة؟
لا تركي هالمنتدى لوحوش الزمان
July 17th, 2013, 6:49 pm
ghufran said:
Rouhani responding to BB Niten Yahoo:
Iran’s president-elect Hassan Rouhani has brushed off threats of military action against the Islamic republic by Israeli, which he insulted as a “miserable regional country”.
July 17th, 2013, 7:06 pm
omen said:
i mispoke. of course iran’s actions are unforgivable. i meant in the u.s. govt viewpoint, they don’t regard iran as a threat. the west is unbothered by iran waging genocide.
July 17th, 2013, 7:12 pm
ghufran said:
SL,
Israel does not want missiles fired on its cities or having its soldiers ambushed and killed, whether the missiles and the bullets come from Assad or the rebels that is less important. Another issue is making sure that illegal settlement building and the theft of water, and now oil and natural gas, go unchecked and unchallenged by Israel’s neighbors and the international community. The best environment for Israel to thrive in is the one we have today where Arabs and Muslims are fighting each other and leaving the true enemy untouched.
This is a sample to what Syrians are doing to each other:
استشهد طفل وأصيب عدد من المدنيين إثر سقوط قذيفة هاون أطلقتها ميليشيا “الجيش الحر” خلف مستشفى الأطفال في منطقة الشيخ سعد بالمزة في دمشق.
This is the type of criminal activity Syrian refugees should not get engaged in:
ضبطت الشرطة المصرية كميات من الأسلحة داخل عقارين يستأجرهما سوريون في مجمع “مدينتي” السكني الذي يشكل امتدادا لحي القاهرة الجديدة بالعاصمة المصرية. هذا وكانت رابطة الصحافيين السوريين قد دانت في بيان الثلاثاء ما وصفته بـ “حملة تحريض” يتعرض لها اللاجئون السوريون المقيمون في مصر في وسائل الإعلام المحلية، بعد أن اتهمهم عدد من الإعلاميين المصريين بالعمل لحساب الإخوان المسلمين.
July 17th, 2013, 7:39 pm
revenire said:
“So are you telling us that Israel feels having a failed state next door is in its best interests.”
If Israel could break Syria into a hundred tiny warlord states all fighting each other I believe it would drive Netanyahu into a certain type of mating frenzy.
Clearly, the Zionists love watching this war. After all, they set up picnics in the Golan to watch the killing.
July 17th, 2013, 7:44 pm
revenire said:
Omen yes, the USA is funding both Hezbollah and the Syrian government. Of course, of course they are.
Did you hear that from “activists” on Twitter?
July 17th, 2013, 7:46 pm
omen said:
ghufran, why dont you address the oil politics involved with syria, iraq, iran? you deflect from it. you mention israel, but that’s it.
.
somebody tell the fake to foad.
July 17th, 2013, 8:30 pm
don said:
Army chief: We risk an all out war with Syria
“There is a lack of international consensus on how to take this forward,” he said. “We are trying to cohere the opposition groups, but they are difficult to cohere because there are many different dimensions to them.
“So it is work in progress, so I am very clear in my military advice to the government that we need to understand what the political objective is before we can sensibly recommend what military effort and forces should be applied to it.”
He added: “That is something we debate a lot, from the Prime Minister downwards. We also need to do this with our allies. Allies have different views on the way ahead. Understandably there is a great reluctance to see Western boots on the ground in a place like Syria.”
The chief of the defence staff also warns that simply introducing a no-fly zone on its own would not prove effective and that other military measures would be required.
Sir David, 61, said: “If you wanted to have the material impact on the Syrian regime’s calculations that some people seek, a no fly zone per se is insufficient.
“You have to be able, as we did successfully in Libya, to hit ground targets.
“You have to establish a ground control zone. You have to take out their air defences. You also have to make sure they can’t manoeuvre – which means you have to take out their tanks, and their armoured personnel carriers and all the other things that are actually doing the damage.
“If you want to have the material effect that people seek you have to be able to hit ground targets and so you would be going to war if that is what you want to do.”
He added: “That is rightly a huge and important decision. There are many arguments for doing to but there are many arguments for not doing so too.”
The country’s most senior military officer described the situation as “highly complex” and suggested that the focus of Government action was also on ensuring the conflict did not “spread” to neighbouring countries.
“We are looking at Syria much more from a regional perspective and making sure that as awful as things are there it doesn’t spread materially to other countries like Lebanon and Jordan,” he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10186843/Army-chief-We-risk-war-with-Syria.html
July 17th, 2013, 8:41 pm
revenire said:
New FSA flag
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/1005285_207624066061946_1368013833_n.jpg
🙂
July 17th, 2013, 8:43 pm
revenire said:
The “people” tossed out of the Lebanese hospital are Salafists. You’re lucky they didn’t hand them over to Hezbollah.
It can always be worse so maybe a little less whining is in order?
July 17th, 2013, 8:53 pm
omen said:
he makes it sound like taking out tanks & apcs are a bad thing.
general mcpeak says a nfz would be a piece a cake for nato. politicians exaggerate the difficulty because they have a counter agenda.
July 17th, 2013, 8:56 pm
don said:
Ninjas everywhere!
Egypt-Turkey ties deteriorate fast on Mursi regime ouster
Turkish prime minister Erdoğan says Mursi “my president,” as Cairo decries foreign intervention in domestic affairs
http://www.aawsat.net/2013/07/article55310023
July 17th, 2013, 9:25 pm
don said:
How about a no fly zone over Turkey hahahahahahahaha!
Turkish Politician: US Mulling Overthrowing Erdogan, Ruling Party
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920426000475
July 17th, 2013, 9:35 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ghufran said
, Mr Omen, are you about to spell the bean , I think he meant spill the beans
SL
Simo thinks of himself genius. his nonsense to him is intelligence
July 17th, 2013, 9:49 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The assassination of Dhirar Jammo scared Hassan Nasrallah, as it happened in HA territory, it is a message to Nasrallah that his turn is coming
July 17th, 2013, 9:55 pm
Ghufran said:
Dr majed, thanks for the correction.
Btw, do you support the assassination of jimmo?
Mr omen, I was always a harsh critic of the GCC, the mullahs and Maliki,please read my previous posts. As for Israel, I think the state, as evil as it is, has the right to live in peace with its neighbors in CLEAR and LEGAL borders, Israel’s borders are neither clear nor legal, I am glad you are starting to give us a better view of where you stand on Israel, Jews and non Jews have the right to support Israel but not the policies of aggression, occupation and theft which since 1948 have defined the national identity of Israel , and now we are learning that there are over 6,000 Israeli arms dealers who benefit from wars and conflicts all over the world, a country the size of new jersey is today the 5th largest exporter of weapons in the world .
July 17th, 2013, 10:03 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Tartous harbor is closed, as of 5pm local time, so the Russian ships can unload weapons to Syria,and may be to HA
July 17th, 2013, 10:17 pm
don said:
Turkey’s support for rebels in neighboring Syria is helping to fuel anti-government protests that continue to unsettle the country. But analysts say the demonstrations aren’t about to prompt Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s government to alter its policy on the Syrian conflict.
The government’s Syria policy has fostered unease among many Turks, who worry that their country could become embroiled in the Syrian conflict. Those concerns have provided one source of fuel for anti-government protests that have vexed Erdoğan’s Justice and Development Party since the start of June.
“I am against war with Syria because they are our neighbors and brothers,” said Eray, a 33-year-old anti-government protester in Istanbul’s Kadikoy district. For Eray, Turkey’s support for the rebels is tantamount to going to war with Damascus. Syria should resolve its own problems, he added.
Eray and other protesters have accused the government of supplying the rebels with weapons, a claim that Turkish authorities deny. He contended the government is also making citizens more vulnerable by allowing the fighters, some of whom are sympathetic to al-Qaeda’s Sunni extremist ideology, to move about freely within Turkey. Many protesters cite a May 11 double-car bombing, which killed 52 people in the southwestern town of Reyhanli, along the Syrian border, as an example of the hazards already created by Turkey’s policy on Syria.
In the southeastern province of Hatay, neighboring Syria, opposition to Ankara’s support for the rebels, along with close family and cultural ties to Syria, played a key role in bringing citizens onto the streets, according to social media and news reports.
Currently, the intensity of the protests, as well as the number of protesters, isn’t producing enough popular pressure to cause the government to rethink its strategy. A stalemate of sorts has taken hold. “Something dramatic needs to happen on the ground [in Syria] to unfreeze the situation,” said Henri Barkey, a Turkey expert at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania.
At the same time, the protests have had one critical effect on Turkey, as far as Syria is concerned. The disturbances have caused the country to lose credibility in the region, and appear weak in the eyes of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Barkey said.
Amid the protests, speculation has mounted that Turkey may facilitate potential US efforts to funnel arms to Syrian rebels. Asked about the possibility of US arms shipments across Turkish territory, a Turkish Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to comment. “We don’t know yet what the United States is going to do,” he told EurasiaNet.org.
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/67266
July 17th, 2013, 10:18 pm
Ghufran said:
Egypt’s latest revolutionary act was profoundly democratic | Omar Robert Hamilton -guardian:
The cover of the current issue of Time magazine labels Egyptians as “the world’s best protesters” and “the world’s worst democrats”. The ignorance of this cover highlights a key question that is not – in the current climate of frenzied analyses of Egypt – being asked: is it more democratic to elect a dictator or to topple one? Democracy, at the very least, means having an independent judiciary, citizen rights, freedom of the press and transparent elections. Of those four pillars, Egypt only had the elections.
Mohamed Morsi was elected because he was the lesser of two evils. He stood in Tahrir Square and promised he could deliver the goals of the revolution. Then his government imprisoned, raped, tortured and killed its citizens like every Egyptian government before it. And now he has fallen.
Elections alone will never be enough because there is a historical and geographical context in Egypt that determines what is and isn’t possible through the ballot box.
July 17th, 2013, 10:45 pm
Akbar Palace said:
As for Israel, I think the state, as evil as it is, has the right to live in peace with its neighbors in CLEAR and LEGAL borders…
Ghufran,
Why would an “evil” state have a “right to live in peace”? All the evil states I’m familiar with are lead by self-appointed leaders who murder their own and provide no human rights. I’m thinking of Nazi Germany, Baathist Iraq and Syria. Evil states need to be defeated.
July 17th, 2013, 10:54 pm
omen said:
really? which stance is that? i’d like to know myself.
doesn’t surprise me. there are also american arms dealers supplying weapons to iraq. i’m sure they’re winding up in regime hands.
there is also this hypocrisy:
tell me again how the UK opposes the regime?
July 18th, 2013, 12:42 am
omen said:
just to put things plainly…
if syrians were able to topple regime, it would give hope to palestinians that they too can win back their country.
this is why israel is reluctant to help topple assad.
i’m torn on whether or not newly freed, yet war weary syrians would then turn to help the palestinian cause. on one hand, syrians have a sprit of generosity & would love to see the dream of a free palestine fulfilled. on the other, with syria so decimated, people would want to concentrate on rebuilding first, i think.
July 18th, 2013, 12:51 am
ghufran said:
What Israel did to the Palestinians (and its neighbors) was evil, no doubt about that, and yes evil needs to be defeated but that does not mean that ” jews need to be thrown in the sea (remember 1967 slogan? ), after all, Jews are humans too and they have children who deserve to live in peace, for that to happen Justice needs to be served, dancing around the issue does not change this simple fact.
The west never liked having a regime in Syria that is pro Iran, Pro Hizbullah and anti Israel, however, the Assads were careful enough not to go too far until 2011 and that is why the West “tolerated” the regime, then came the uprising which was seen as an opportunity by “smart” politicians to weaken Iran and ensure that a pro west regime is installed, however, they never thought that the alternative to Assad will be militant Islamists and Nusra terrorists, the opposition tuned violent and increasingly sectarian and relied on anti west jihadists, that made western politicians rethink how far they should oppose Assad and support the rebels.
Some of you are either ignorant or they are simply testing the water to see where this conversation can lead to.
Syrians from all sides did not die to deliver Syria to the GCC and the Islamists, even the anti Assad Syrians, with notable exceptions, are not willing to replace Assad with Nusra and GCC pimps, what western leaders did was to incite violence, encourage the rebels, help make Syrians poorer and more isolated and then leave rebels in the cold, that is why I was against relying on the GCC and the West to change the regime.
July 18th, 2013, 1:18 am
ghufran said:
قال رئيس اركان المنطقة الشمالية السابق الجنرال في الاحتياط رافي
نوي، في سياق مقابلة مع القناة الأولى في التلفزيون الاسرائيلي أن وضع المتمردين في سوريا في الفترة الاخيرة، يدفعهم الى توريط الجيش الاسرائيلي هناك، من أجل رفع ضغط الجيش السوري عنهم.
وأضاف أن “المتمردين يدركون اليوم أنهم خسروا المعركة، وإذا كان وزير الأمن ايهود باراك قال قبل سنة أن أيام الأسد معدودة، فإن كلامه هذا كان بناءاً على تقديره، وليس فقط تقديره بل تقدير الأسد نفسه، لكن منذ ذلك الوقت سقط الكثير من القتلى وتبين أن استراتيجية المتمردين خاطئة، وهم الآن في وضع لا يعرفون النجاح فيه للخروج منه، وأن الطريق الوحيد للخروج منه هو توريط اسرائيل في هذه الحرب، لذلك من المتوقع أن تحصل مثل هذه العمليات من جانب المتمردين لتوريط اسرائيل في سوريا
وبخصوص امكانية الرد السوري على العمليات التي تشنها “اسرائيل” في عمق سوريا، قال نوي أن للأسد الكثير من الصبر قبل الدخول في أي مواجهة مع “اسرائيل”، فهذا آخر أمر يريده، فالأمور الآن انقلبت ويده هي العليا سوية مع حزب الله، ولكن قوته هو وحزب الله محدودة، وهو لا يريد دخول أي طرف آخر، وبالتأكيد بالنسبة اليه ليس هذا الوقت المناسب لكي تدخل “اسرائيل”، ولديه الصبر وربما صبره سيطول، وعندما نراه يقوم بعمل ما ضد “اسرائيل” فهذا يعني أنه وصل الى مرحلة يشعر فيها أنه راكم الكثير من القوة ووضع المتمردين مأساوي حتى يدخل في مواجهة معنا، لكن كما تبدو الامور الآن، فإن الاسد لن يسارع الى الرد أو الدخول في أي مواجهة مع اسرائيل حتى ولو بالاشارة.
وختم نوي بأن الحرب في سوريا سوف تستغرق وقتاً طويلاً ويمكن أن تحصل تهدئة بين الأطراف نتيجة إنهاك الطرفين، بحيث تبقي القسم الأكبر والذي ليس له تأثير على حكم الاسد من المناطق تحت سيطرة معارضيه، أما الاسد سيركز على المناطق الاستراتيجية حيث سيفرض سيطرته وبقاء الدولة السورية قائمة حتى وإن كانت اجزاء منها خارج سيطرته.
وبخصوص منطقة الحدود مع “اسرائيل”، قال نوي من ناحية الاسد هي منطقة مهمة جداً، لما لها من تأثير على قدرة سوريا على البقاء وإدارة أمورها بهدوء، لذلك في هذه الأماكن سيفرض سيطرته عليها، ومن الواضح الآن أنه ما زال يحافظ على قوته وأن الجيش السوري يخضع لأمرته كاملاً وبشكل مفاجئ جداً.
an Israeli retired General thinks the rebels are trying to engage Israel in the Syrian war, he also said that the war will not end soon and it is unlikely the regime will collapse despite the fact that it is lost large swath of territories, he repeated Israel’s belief that Assad will not respond to Israel’s strikes inside Syria.
July 18th, 2013, 2:06 am
omen said:
wow…
photo
July 18th, 2013, 2:07 am
Alan said:
these murderers reflect the true face of their arms procurers
https://twitter.com/maria_engstrom/status/357780831101652992
Syria faces the prospect of terrorist forces gaining overwhelming control over the country’s north. Sources in the Free Syrian Army claim the terrorist group Al Qaeda plans to take control over transit routes on the border with Turkey – ousting other rebel troops from the area. The relationship between radical groups and the FSA has been rapidly deteriorating – with a senior army commander recently killed by the Islamists. RT’s Gayane Chichakyan investigates.
http://youtu.be/9qCgyyzqD_g?t=2m13s
July 18th, 2013, 4:45 am
SimoHurtta said:
308. Syrialover said:
I have been watching the veteran rigid leftist SIMOHURTTA’s comments. These are about a range of different things but appear to be programmed to automatically include a put down of the west and a special kick to Amerika. Even if it contorts and tugs the argument in irrelevant and extreme directions.
But #286 is especially good and I am going to file it as a wonderful example of that mindset.
It shows SIMOHURTTA is so driven to land punches on the west he dismisses Russia’s treatment of prisoners in WWII and praises its behaviour in Afghanistan.
This is not objective and realistic stuff – it’s obsessive compulsion.
Syrianlover all the figures I put of the WW2 Russian held war prisoners can be validated easily using Google. Observer’s 95 % killed claim can not. Syrianlover when you and your clan make propaganda check the facts and do not invent so absurd lies.
I lost several relatives on in the war against Soviet Union (WW2) so basically I do not have any hidden loyalty towards Russia or communism. However when so absurd lies of my nation’s/tribe’s age old enemy (Russia, Slavic tribes) I see it as my responsibility to educate the “fruits” of the famous US schooling system.
The amount of bombs in tons against Laos is a historical fact.
The pollution of Iraq and Afghanistan with DU caused by US forces is a fact. The consequences of DU to new born is a medical fact.
What I do not like is absurd hypocrisy and obvious/organized propaganda spreading what those Israeli right wingers here are doing. I also wonder how/why some Californian/non Syrian/non Muslims can write 33,000 tweets about this conflict. That is certainly not a hobby, that is a paid work.
PS
When criticising “bad” Arab leaders lets remember:
It is estimated by respected peace researchers that the countless US wars and interventions since WW2 have caused the premature death of around 15 million people (estimates were made before Iraq operation). Alone in Indonesia one million died when CIA gave killing lists to the generals they (=USA) had put in power. Only part of those killed were communists, mostly they were educated nationalists, who were critical to foreign companies robbing their natural riches. And the same happened in tens of other countries.
Saddam and Assad were/are novices compared to the US leaders even with the body count argument. Also the “democracy” reasoning is invalid. Only Americans (well part of them) could elect the US president. People of Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Laos, Bolivia, Argentina etc could not, so US “democracy” is no explaining factor nor the concept of democracy does justify killing in foreign countries. Only a naive uneducated person believes, that USA has those hundreds of military bases around the world in order to bring democracy and woman’s rights to everybody. The bases exist to guaranty control and the possibility to pump “wealth” to USA. Exactly the same motives and mechanism the former colonial powers had and used. The modern invention is controlling through puppets. 200 years of “co-operation” with US did not make Latin American counties rich, equal, democratic or educated. USA got cheap bananas, gold, markets for their products (on the top weapons) etc.
July 18th, 2013, 6:03 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Simo , he thinks he is genius,he discovered that I am Akbar Palace.
Ghufran said
the opposition tuned violent He meant Turned violent
And Ghuran said
despite the fact that it is lost large swath of territories
I think he meant it has lost, not it is lost
July 18th, 2013, 6:34 am
majedkhaldoun said:
In Egypt,Mursi was criticised for monoploy ,excluding other parties, which was a valid criticism, today the transitional goverment excluded more than half the Egyptian population ,put several leaders in jail,closed media channels and closed the opposition press,and killed Egyptians , all of which Mursi did not do.
Demonstrations against the new goverment by Egyptians are huge, this indicates that Sisi and Adly mansour, and Baradei will not be there for long time.
Political Islam is not dead,as Assad said,and as repeated by his follower here on SC,Revenir is wrong again.
July 18th, 2013, 6:53 am
Akbar Palace said:
333. omen said:
just to put things plainly…
if syrians were able to topple regime, it would give hope to palestinians that they too can win back their country.
Syrians are trying to replace their government. They are not intending to change their borders.
OTOH, what country are the Palestinians trying to “win back”? Up to the green line? Is that where they stop? Can the Palestinians accomplish that without losing more? Lastly, the negotiating table is open, and right now the differences are small. Should the Palestinians risk is all to “win back” all of Palestine? You’re a smart guy Omen. The Syrian saga is much different scenario. The Palestinians are basically in the same position as the Jews were in Palestine were in 1947. Do they take what is offered and NEGOTIATE a final settlement with changes, do they IGNORE the offer (present scenario), or do they GO TO WAR to “win back” Palestine (wherever that is)?
this is why israel is reluctant to help topple assad.
Why should Israel “help topple assad”, when even the arabs and muslims are reluctant to do so, and especially when the hundreds of jihadist rebel “groups” are MORE violent and LESS moderate.
i’m torn on whether or not newly freed, yet war weary syrians would then turn to help the palestinian cause.
If I were arab, I would let the Palestinians decide their own fate especially when it is in their own hands. Arabs have enough concerns in their home country. Just MHO.
on one hand, syrians have a sprit of generosity & would love to see the dream of a free palestine fulfilled. on the other, with syria so decimated, people would want to concentrate on rebuilding first, i think.
Obviously.
after all, Jews are humans too and they have children who deserve to live in peace
Ghufran,
Are you sure? Some people think we have horns! 😉
for that to happen Justice needs to be served, dancing around the issue does not change this simple fact.
Justice requires two states that were proposed long ago and rejected by all the arab states that, at the time, SPOKE for the Palestinians. A state for the Jewish People and a state for the Palestinian People. Now that Palestine can SPEAK FOR HERSELF, an independent Palestine is close at hand.
the Assads were careful enough not to go too far until 2011 and that is why the West “tolerated” the regime
Again, many arabs like to point outward. I understand that, but it is nonsense. Arabs tolerated Assad the most, INCLUDING Syrians.
As long as Syrians were good little slaves and never complained about anything, Assad was “kind” and the false facade of “Resistance King” was crowned in his favor. Once a couple demonstration ensued the King became Killer, Muderer, and an overall A-hole.
Fix your states and your governments, then come back to kick Israel’s ass. My recommendation. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
July 18th, 2013, 7:30 am
Akbar Palace said:
Sim’s Heroes don’t Rule Finland NewZ
What I do not like is absurd hypocrisy and obvious/organized propaganda spreading what those Israeli right wingers here are doing.
Sim,
Too bad. No one cares what you “like”. You have your narrative and “hasbara” and we have ours.
Saddam and Assad were/are novices compared to the US leaders even with the body count argument.
OK. Give us the “body count”. You will find that arabs and muslims have killed orders of magnitude more of their own people that the US and Israel have killed arabs and muslims.
So let’s see your “body count argument”. Your hate for the US and Israel is misplaced and the result of some sort of psychological problem or brainwashing. Stop reading Veterans Today and Storm Front.
When criticising “bad” Arab leaders lets remember:
“Bad”? That’s a nice word! Just read the arabs here with half a brain! They’re HORRIBLE! YOU go an live in Syria. I’ll pay for the one way ticket. Leave Finland and go live in Syria or Egypt or Iran or Iraq.
July 18th, 2013, 7:46 am
zoo said:
After FSA vs Al Nusra, now Kurds vs Al Nusra. The military opposition is auto-destructing
Kurdish-Islamist fighting spreads to Syrian oil fields
Reuters July 18, 2013, 11:54 pm
BEIRUT/ANKARA (Reuters) – Kurdish fighters have seized control of a Syrian town on the border with Turkey and are battling Islamist rebel groups linked to al Qaeda for control of oilfields in the northeast of the country.
The fighting is further evidence that the conflict between rebels and President Bashar al-Assad’s forces that has engulfed Syria since early 2011 has splintered into turf wars that have little to do with ousting him.
The capture of Ras al-Ain by the Democratic Union Party (PYD), a Syrian Kurdish party with links to Kurdish militants in Turkey, rang alarm bells in Ankara.
The Turkish government fears the emergence of an autonomous Kurdish region in Syria could embolden homegrown militants of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is fighting for autonomy in Turkey.
In a statement late on Wednesday, the Turkish military said Ras al-Ain had fallen under the control of the PYD, which it described as a “separatist terrorist organisation”. Fighting in the town had now stopped.
Turkish troops had shot at PYD fighters in Syria after two rocket-propelled grenades fired from Syria struck a border post on the Turkish side of the frontier.
It was the second time in as many days the military has answered in kind after several stray bullets from Syria struck the Turkish town of Ceylanpinar on Tuesday. The military has now strengthened security along that part of the border.
FIGHTING SPREADS
Clashes in Ras al-Ain between Kurdish militias, who broadly support an autonomous Kurdish region, and Islamist fighters of the Nusra Front broke out on Tuesday after Nusra fighters attacked a Kurdish patrol and captured a gunman, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.
The Observatory, a pro-opposition monitoring group, said fighting had now spread deeper into the largely Kurdish province of Hassakeh and battles were raging around the Rumeilan oil field, about 200 km (125 miles) east of Ras al-Ain.
The field had mostly been shut down, opposition activists said, but a few of its pipelines may still be supplying refineries in the government-held cities of Homs and Baniyas.
July 18th, 2013, 8:26 am
zoo said:
In Egypt the Moslem Brotherhood have been successful at providing social services to the neglected poor and promoting their Islamist ideology. Once they got the power, they wanted to defend their vulnerable and old-fashioned ideology at all costs. They proved that they are too weak to rule democratically by sharing power.
In Syria, as the government provided the minimum safety net for the poor, the MB had no other way to grab the power than by using violence. In 1982 they tried and failed. In 2012 they tried again using powerful ideological allies and failed again.
The MB can only aim at being just in an opposition party, nothing else.
That’s what the GCC and the West finally understood after the fall of Morsi.
In Egypt, after the MB miscarriage, there is a temporary void, that’s why it was filled in by the army.
In Syria, until now there is no void, as the Syrian government together with the army are still solidly united and in control, maybe not of the whole territory, but of the majority of the population.
July 18th, 2013, 8:47 am
zoo said:
The Syrian and Egyptian Brotherhoods – different histories, different outlooks
Frederik Deknatel
Jul 20, 2013
…
Under Mubarak, the Brotherhood knew it couldn’t reasonably hold power, so it was free to advocate democracy while leaving major doctrines and policies vague. But political power changed all that, and exposed their doublespeak. It ran a presidential candidate after pledging it wouldn’t; it deflected criticisms with canards, and refused to admit mistakes.
Until the Syrian Brotherhood run in elections and realise similar political aspirations, the organisation will be held up to their Egyptian counterparts and their penchant for saying one thing while pursuing only narrow group interests
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Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/the-syrian-and-egyptian-brotherhoods-different-histories-different-outlooks#ixzz2ZOwva1X5
July 18th, 2013, 9:00 am
Citizen said:
345. ZOO
The official representative of the Kurdish defense forces Ali Bashar Oumari today announced the capture of 13 insurgents in the town of Ras al-Ain in northeastern Syria. There were clashes with the formation of an extremist group “Djabhat-Al-Nusra.”
“Among these prisoners – six Turkish soldiers and Chechen mercenary specialists, as evidenced by the documents they found,” – said Ali Bashar Oumari Lebanese news portal “Al-Ahd.” The Turks, as the representative of the self-defense forces, armed Islamists have provided operational and logistical support to them during an attempted assault on Ras al-Ain, which is 510 km northeast of Damascus and 67 km to the west of the administrative center of Al Hasake. From the Turkish border town of Ceylanpınar, which also resides Kurdish population, it is separated by a few kilometers.
Ras al-Ain is divided into two parts
Since November 2012 the militia of the Democratic Union Party / PUD / – Syrian branch of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party of Turkey – repulsed several attempts Islamists seize Ras al-Ain and set their own rules there. As noted Oumari, the city is divided into two parts. Jihadists keep the areas adjacent to the border and the security checkpoint, there continue shooting, the rest of the city in the hands of the PUD. In Ras al-Ain deployed reinforcements from neighboring Kurdish cities of Tel Tamer and Amu.
According to eyewitnesses, the cause of the next spike battle was Ramadan – the Muslim fasting. In areas under the control of the PUD, no strict rules of Sharia, which are imposed by fundamentalists of the so-called armed opposition in other places. For example, Kurdish women activists PUD fighting in the ranks of the self-defense forces, as a rule, do not wear headscarves, which often provokes a clash between the conflicting parties.
http://www.mignews.ru/aimages/07_13/180713_154320_84514_2.jpg
July 18th, 2013, 9:01 am
Alan said:
Syria has need to include Russian contingent of General Gromov , as in Afghanistan.
Taliban for first time claims operational presence in Syria
Special to WorldTribune.com
LONDON — A Taliban operative said specialists in urban warfare and technology have arrived in Syria to join the war against President Bashar Assad.
The operative, Mohammed Amin, said at least 12 specialists were monitoring the war and drafting requirements for Al Qaida-aligned rebels.
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/07/17/taliban-for-first-time-claims-operational-presence-in-syria/
July 18th, 2013, 9:33 am
Alan said:
American,s opinion
I have read so much nonsense about aid, aid, and more aid for these “rebels”. The question is, aid who?
These FSA people, who are they? Where did they come from? Are they a gang of hoodlums building their own little fiefdoms by means of guns, terror, intimidation.
Would the people of USA like the KKK or the some white supremacist gang or Farrakhan’s pseudo Muslim gang (all of them being a.k.a. “REBELS” as they operate out of the normal governmental process) to run around various cities across the country (i.e. USA) terrorizing citizens? Clearly NO.
Assad has held power in Syria for a long time and put in place all the infrastructure to run the country. If the people of the west are truly interested in a proper functioning Syria, they need to ensure that these riots and civil war by these “rebels”, I call them criminals, comes to a swift halt.
After that, point to Assad all the defects in his government and deal with him with economic, trade, and other sanctions in a manner that cripples him and his government. Expelling all of his Ambassadors from every country would be a good start. Travel restrictions on his entourage would be good. His wife is jet setting here and there, STOP that: Madam, you are a persona non grata, please return to Syria.
Giving Arms to these criminals, “rebels”, only makes the life for normal citizens impossible. They cannot get bread without getting shot.
July 18th, 2013, 10:07 am
zoo said:
More trouble looming for ‘zero-problem’ Turkey: A Kurdish secular autonomous region at its border
Turkish gov’t says won’t tolerate PYD’s fait accompli in northern Syria
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-321226-turkish-govt-says-wont-tolerate-pyds-fait-accompli-in-northern-syria.html
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The Turkish General Staff, releasing a written statement on its official website on Thursday, confirmed that Ras al-Ain had fallen under the control of the PYD, which it described as a separatist terrorist organization. Fighting in the town has now stopped. Turkish troops had shot at PYD fighters in Syria in accordance with its rules of engagement after two rocket-propelled grenades fired from Syria struck a border post on the Turkish side of the frontier. The return fire was the second time that the military has answered in kind after several stray bullets from Syria struck the police headquarters and several homes in the adjacent Turkish town of Ceylanpınar on Tuesday. The General Staff said they are watching what happens in northern Syria closely.
…
Professor Mesut Hakkı Caşın from Yeditepe University told Today’s Zaman that al-Assad left Ras al-Ain to the PYD. He said, “According to UN decisions, Turkey has the right to conduct cross-border ‘hot pursuit’ operations in Syria if terrorist activity near its borders is detected.” He has heard claims that PKK terrorists, who are withdrawing from Turkish lands as part of an ongoing settlement process launched by the Turkish government in 2012 to end its Kurdish problem, are joining PYD forces in northern Syria and believes this is a clear threat to Turkey’s national security.
July 18th, 2013, 10:28 am
Sami said:
“I also wonder how/why some Californian/non Syrian/non Muslims can write 33,000 tweets about this conflict.”
One tweet at a time, not very difficult to figure out how Twitter works. Maybe you can google it if you are still having a hard time knowing how one can tweet…
“That is certainly not a hobby, that is a paid work.”
I wonder what your SimoHypocrometer thinks of those that write 30 posts a day on here most of it filled with disinformation and propaganda intent on distracting you from the truth.
What I still don’t understand is you are babbling on about US crimes as an excuse to cover up soviet crimes? Juxtaposing two crimes beside each other will not challenge the veracity of the first crime. What happened in Laos is criminal as is what happened in Afghanistan with the Soviet invasion.
Btw what are your thoughts about what transpired in Chechnya? Do you have the figures of how much armaments was launched at Grozny to bring peace and prosperity Putin style there?
July 18th, 2013, 10:38 am
Ziad said:
The latetest byproduct of the US gift to humanity DU born yesterday in Fallujah
https://twitter.com/miniestmini/status/357812269020770304/photo/1
July 18th, 2013, 11:04 am
Ziad said:
Over 100 trucks loaded with supplies arrived in Aleppo within past 24 hours thanks to the SAA.
July 18th, 2013, 11:11 am
Akbar Palace said:
“SimoHypocrometer”
LOL Sami…
July 18th, 2013, 11:15 am
Ziad said:
Fouzy Aiman Fawwaz, just 4 years old child, died of viral Hepatitis. There are 100s like him who are dying due to lack of medicines. 500,000 Iraqi children got the same fate thanks to the deeds of the “good guys”.
https://twitter.com/ProSyriana/status/357867494297444352/photo/1
July 18th, 2013, 11:18 am
Majed97 said:
Momentum Shifts in Syria, Bolstering Assad’s Position
New York Times
By BEN HUBBARD
Published: July 17, 2013
That momentum has now been reversed.
In recent weeks, rebel groups have been killing one another with increasing ferocity, losing ground on the battlefield and alienating the very citizens they say they want to liberate. At the same time, the United States and other Western powers that have called for Mr. Assad to step down have shown new reluctance to provide the rebels with badly needed weapons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/world/middleeast/momentum-shifts-in-syria-bolstering-assads-position.html?_r=0
July 18th, 2013, 11:27 am
Sami said:
“Now that Palestine can SPEAK FOR HERSELF, an independent Palestine is close at hand.”
Which Palestine can SPEAK FOR HERSELF exactly? The one in an open air cage ruled by a bunch of extremists that were the byproduct of the Mossad, or the other one that keeps losing its land to
settlementscolonies run by a bunch of puppets that dare not fall out of line or risk losing all the taxes Israel is collecting on their behalf?July 18th, 2013, 11:28 am
Sami said:
“500,000 Iraqi children got the same fate thanks to the deeds of the “good guys”
And how many orphaned children are going to grow up filled with hate and anger thanks to your “good guy”?
What transpired in Iraq does not in any capacity coverup your heroes handiwork in Syria, bringing Iraq into the discussion does nothing but attempt to distract from the fact Assad and his hyenas drove the country into the hell we see Syria in today.
July 18th, 2013, 11:56 am
Ziad said:
SAMI #358
Are you in procession of all your brain power wanting to replace an admittedly repressive government with head cutters, cannibals, destroyers of churches and Shia mosques stooges of KSA? Or with enforcers of free speech killers, sectarian starvers of Zahra, Nubol & Aleppo, kidnappers for money, killers of prisoners, thieves and thugs, stooges of Israel, US, Qatar & Turkey?
These are the choices. No utopia for Syria.
July 18th, 2013, 12:12 pm
revenire said:
Sami when all is said and done not too many will defend cannibals, beheaders, rapists, thieves and other criminals. Few would have the temerity to call them freedom fighters. I’d be ashamed to back such people.
It would be funny if so many were not dead.
July 18th, 2013, 12:26 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Which Palestine can SPEAK FOR HERSELF exactly?
Sami,
THe Palestinian Authority speaks for Palestinians in the West Bank and Hamas speaks for Palestinians in Gaza. Both elected leaders.
The one in an open air cage ruled by a bunch of extremists that were the byproduct of the Mossad, or the other one that keeps losing its land to settlements colonies run by a bunch of puppets that dare not fall out of line or risk losing all the taxes Israel is collecting on their behalf?
Hamas is not a “byproduct of the Mossad”. Now you’re slipping into “Arab Conspiracy Central” Something you usually poke fun at. The “puppets” in the WB can be termed however you’d like. Since you’re so smart, tell us what you would do if you were Abbas??
July 18th, 2013, 12:29 pm
revenire said:
Idris crying in the New York Times (thanks Majed97 for alerting me to this article):
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They do not want the fall of this regime; that is why they are not helping,” said Gen. Salim Idris, the head of the Free Syrian Army, a loosely knit umbrella group that has been soliciting aid and that is supposed to funnel it to vetted groups while keeping it from extremists.
General Idris accused the West of delaying with endless meetings, summits and requests for new “guarantees” that extremists would not get arms, and said this left the rebels at a huge disadvantage against Mr. Assad’s forces.
“They have Russia and Iran and Hezbollah,” he said. “But these democratic countries that call for freedom, when you have people seeking freedom from dictatorial, oppressive regimes and need help, they do not give any aid.”
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Someone should give Idris a box of Kleenex. It is painful to watch a man weeping.
July 18th, 2013, 12:30 pm
revenire said:
Of course the Zionists created the “Muslim” extremists in Gaza. It gives them a perfect reason to murder everyone in Gaza.
Zionists love creating a golem to scare everyone with. Abu Nidal was accused of being a Mossad agent.
It would not surprise me if the Mossad was behind most of the suicide bombings in Israel. They used to blow up plenty of civilians. Google the Irgun and read all about Zionist terror. Masada on a grand scale is what best sums up Zionist foreign policy.
Peace scares Zionists. They have giant inferiority complex.
July 18th, 2013, 12:36 pm
zoo said:
Is this just another ‘all options are on the table’ spectacular rhetoric to give some hopes to the crumbling and desperate opposition and to threaten the Syria government?
After the failure of the NFZ, the USA is coming up with a military novelty: ‘kinetic strikes’
http://www.canada.com/news/military+officer+says+administration+considering+military+force/8676513/story.html
Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, said during congressional testimony that he has provided President Barack Obama with options for the use of force in Syria.
Speaking about what he termed “kinetic strikes,” Dempsey added that the “issue is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government.” But he declined to provide further details, as members of the Senate Armed Services Committee pressed him for greater clarity on the strategy for ending the war and removing Syrian President Bashar Assad from power.
“The decision on whether to use force is the decision of our elected officials,” Dempsey said. “It would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public with what type of force we should use.”
July 18th, 2013, 1:04 pm
Akbar Palace said:
The All Powerful Zionists Strike Again
Of course the Zionists created the “Muslim” extremists in Gaza.
Reverse,
Besides “creating” Hamas, the Zionists also:
– forced all Gazans to vote for Hamas
– forced Hamas to fire thousands of rockets into Israel
– forced Hamas to throw PA officials off rooftops
– forced Assad to shoot at unarmed demonstrators
– forced Saddam Hussein to kill hundred of thousands of Iraqis and bury them in mass graves
– forced Iran to arm Hezbollah and fire thousands of missiles into Israel
– forced Syrians to rise up against Assad
– forced Hezbollah and Iran to send their military into Syria to prop up the d-p Assad
– forced over a million Syrians to flee their homes and become refugees
and the list goes on.
July 18th, 2013, 1:14 pm
apple_mini said:
There will be a new store opening soon in the neighborhood where I live in Damascus.
The owner obviously has put some money and efforts for renovation. It is quite a heart-warming scene in a city where sound of explosion is still rolling through the sky.
The reality is people nowadays are feeling more sense of security. Hence more confidence and hope.
Painful economy is still hurting people and posing as a threat. But it is positioning itself with some opportunities. After the situation gets a little stabilized, reconstruction will be put into plan. Many people are eagerly waiting to come back if they feel safe to do so.
The truth is after SAA clears up Homs, the Syrian lira might become stronger against dollar.
July 18th, 2013, 1:19 pm
don said:
Obomba preparing to invade another Arab country on behalf of his beloved Israel
US preparing for military action in Syria, top US general says
http://rt.com/usa/dempsey-syria-us-assad-268/
Obomba gunboat DEMOCRACY
July 18th, 2013, 1:22 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Making Small Corrections in-line with Conspiracy Professionals
Obomba preparing to invade another Arab country
Don,
Get with the program. The ZIONISTS are forcing Obamba to invade another Arab country. I mean, who else? Saudi Arabia? Nahhh…
July 18th, 2013, 1:25 pm
revenire said:
Akbar the Zionists also caused the Great San Francisco Earthquake and Haley’s Comet.
It is an undisputed fact the Zionists love extremists. If I am not mistaken, Zionist groups in the US have been caught vandalizing synagogues (painting swastikas etc.) in order to drum up support for their own sick cause.
Then, of course, we have the famous King David Hotel terrorism and the attack on the USS Liberty.
What a sordid history.
July 18th, 2013, 1:35 pm
sami said:
AP,
My criticism was actually more aimed at the Palestinians than Israel, because both the PA and Hamas have done an abysmal job in their elected office “speaking on behalf” of Palestinians. And honestly I do not believe that either groups are representative of the Palestinian people and have the right to speak on their behalf nor do they represent the real political potential that I know Palestinians are capable of. Another thing Arab despotic states have more to gain from a weak Palestinian opposition than Israel does, for as long as the Palestinians appear helpless the despots can use them as an excuse to suppress their own people and provide them with the lip service that we see the Syrian opposition getting…
“Hamas is not a “byproduct of the Mossad”. Now you’re slipping into “Arab Conspiracy Central” Something you usually poke fun at.”
I guess WSJ and I are slipping into the Arab Conspiracy Central…
Since you’re so smart, tell us what you would do if you were Abbas??
Do more to help the Palestinians still in the WB so that they can become at least at equal footing with their Jewish neighbours in terms of education and healthcare. Not to mention push the youth into fields like IT which are a lot more lucrative than picking oranges from orchards. also do more to bridge the gap between the WB and Gaza and instead of having open hostility towards Gaza and more specifically Hamas try to engage the moderate elements there and try to have a unified body that speaks for both Gazans and West Bankers on the international level.
July 18th, 2013, 2:23 pm
Sami said:
Ziad,
“Are you in procession of all your brain power wanting to replace an admittedly repressive government with head cutters, cannibals, destroyers of churches and Shia mosques stooges of KSA? Or with enforcers of free speech killers, sectarian starvers of Zahra, Nubol & Aleppo, kidnappers for money, killers of prisoners, thieves and thugs, stooges of Israel, US, Qatar & Turkey?”
No and if you think the choice is between what you describe above and the abomination of a regime you support then not only is your knowledge of what Syrians are capable of is lacking but you lack the proper brain power functions to look beyond the BS narrative either side is trying to feed you and actually witness what the hell is going on.
Btw not only does every adjective you chose above perfectly exemplifies the regime you support it does not even start to paint a clear picture of the sick barbaric atrocities it has committed.
July 18th, 2013, 2:32 pm
Uzair8 said:
Couldn’t access SC yesterday and I wanted to post the following.
Hopefully it’s the start of some rebel momentum.
From AJE Syria (17 Jul 2013):
Syria rebels seize parts of Deraa’s Nawa city
Opposition fighters in Syria say they have captured most parts of Nawa city in Deraa province.
Meanwhile, there has been more fighting in Aleppo city, where opposition fighters say they have made gains.
Al Jazeera’s Mohammad Vall reports.
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July 18th, 2013, 3:42 pm
zoo said:
uzair8
The Deraa’s “victories” are popping up every now and then probably to boost the decrepit moral of the armed rebels. After a few days, we hear nothing anymore
No other sources than Al Jazeera fed by the rebels corroborated that game-changer ‘victory’
July 18th, 2013, 3:57 pm
zoo said:
Hasn’t Idriss understood yet that the West has dumped the FSA and is now focusing on stopping Al Qaeda in Syria.
Syria’s Assad may cling on, Britain will not arm rebels – sources
(Reuters) – Britain has abandoned plans to arm Syrian rebels fighting to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad and believes he might survive in office for years, sources familiar with government thinking say.
The sources also told Reuters that a peace conference to try to end the conflict – now in its third year – might not happen until next year if at all.
“Britain is clearly not going to arm the rebels in any way, shape or form,” said one source, pointing to a parliamentary motion passed last week urging prior consultation of lawmakers.
July 18th, 2013, 4:02 pm
omen said:
yoohoo, everybody crying crocodile tears over this man…
July 18th, 2013, 4:08 pm
omen said:
when a thief steals your car & cops catch the thief, do the police run a morality test first to see if you are a deserving enough human being, worthy enough of getting his stolen car handed back?
July 18th, 2013, 4:29 pm
revenire said:
Omen could you please start using punctuation? I can’t make sense out of your gibberish. Thx.
July 18th, 2013, 4:39 pm
omen said:
translation: syrians are expendable. let them be exterminated.
when did you turn into a nazi?
July 18th, 2013, 4:40 pm
Citizen said:
Do you want to cause a massive spending money?
Do you want to cause a huge increase in U.S. public debt!
Do you want to weaken the United States of America more?
Do you want to become China and Russia more powerful?
Then Mr. Dempsey follow your colleagues Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz! Entry is very much different from the exit!!! We wish you weighting the mind!
Dempsey says US considering use of force in Syria
The nation’s top military officer told a Senate panel Thursday the Obama administration is deliberating whether to use military power in Syria…..
http://rt.com/usa/dempsey-syria-us-assad-268/#.UehQAgoJKE0.twitter
July 18th, 2013, 4:51 pm
omen said:
alan, every interview previous to senate hearing, the man argues it’s a bad idea to intervene.
same people promised to arm rebels. hasn’t happened. why do you believe them now?
July 18th, 2013, 5:22 pm
zoo said:
Blinded by his Islamist proselytism and his arrogance, Erdogan continues to make bad calculations on the Arabs. After antagonizing Syria, he is antagonizing Egypt and the GCC.
Erdogan refuses to speak to Egypt’s ElBaradei
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/76801/World/Region/Erdogan-refuses-to-speak-to-Egypts-ElBaradei.aspx
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has refused to speak to Egypt’s new Vice-President Mohamed ElBaradei, the latest broadside in a spat that erupted after the military coup in the Arab world’s most populous country.
Erdogan infuriated Egypt’s interim leaders after he voiced support for ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.
“How could I speak to you? You were not elected, you were appointed by the orchestrators of a coup,” he said on Wednesday, addressing ElBaradei in remarks carried on CNN-Turk’s website.
..
July 18th, 2013, 5:37 pm
Citizen said:
Look! In The Sky…It’s a Drone,It’s a Plane, It’s…World War III On The Horizon
July 18, 2013 Al Qaeda, Attack, Barack Obama, General Dempsey, hamas, Hezbollah, Islam, Kinetic Strike, military, Muslim, Muslims, Syria, Terrorist, More and more air defenses and Super Sonic missiles !! Book your tickets now! Spaces are limited! Do not miss the interesting show !!!! war, WWIII
General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified today before a committee in the Senate that the Obama Administration is considering using military force in the Syrian civil war, and that the United States military leadership is drawing up plans to carry out such a mission if the order is given. General Dempsey stated during Congressional testimony as well, that, “…I have provided the President with options for the use of force in Syria.”
Dempsey made mention of a “kinetic strike”, which translates into English as an offensive move, using missiles, drones, airstrikes, and even boots on the ground. General Dempsey did not elaborate further other than saying that the decision for the United States to use military force in Syria, “…is a decision for elected U.S. officials to make.”
General Dempsey is up for a vote among the Senate Armed Services Committee for a second term as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, which is the highest military rank/position in the nation, so he is choosing his words carefully. If he is voted in for a second term, count on seeing a military operation against Syria rather quickly. After the necessary CYA verbal maneuvering is done by the Chairman and he gets the nod, the gloves with Syria will most likely come off.
The main concern for most people is three-fold when it comes to military engagement with Syria: 1.) Getting the United States involved in another war that will take years to end in the Middle East, .2) Russia and Iran’s heavy involvement and support of the Syrian regime lead by Bashir al-Assad, and 3.) the fact that Hezbollah, Hamas, and Al-Qaeda will be involved in the fight against US, which could lead to a collapse of the entire Middle East and lead to a power grab that will usher in the third world war.
US are already in position with the infrastructure to act, but they are also surrounded, with Russia on top.
I hope intelligibly written above!
July 18th, 2013, 5:47 pm
Ziad said:
WHO’s Iraq Birth Defect Study Omits Causation
A long-awaited study on congenital birth defects by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Ministry of Health (MOH) in Iraq is expected to be very extensive in nature.
According to WHO, 10,800 households were selected as a sample size for the study, which was scheduled to be released early this year but has not yet been made public.
Many scientists and experts have started questioning the time delay in publishing the study, but there is another aspect that is a cause for concern among some health experts.
The report will not examine the link between the prevalence of birth defects and use of depleted uranium (DU) munitions used during the war and occupation in Iraq, according to WHO.
A by-product of the uranium enrichment process, DU is prized by the military for its use in ammunition that can punch through walls and armoured tanks. The main problem, experts say, is that DU munitions vaporise on contact, generating dust that is easily inhaled into the lungs.
http://original.antiwar.com/Sudeshna_Chowdhury/2013/07/17/whos-iraq-birth-defect-study-omits-causation/
July 18th, 2013, 6:27 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
388. Ziad
Very interesting Ziad. I believe the effects of US war on Irak will be very long and painful in terms of genetical disorders and long term pollution.
As it will be the effect of Assad and his powerfull weapons from Iran and Russia. Assads not only transformed Syrian Desert into a nuclear garbage hole but now infect the whole country and their water reserves with uranium.
July 22nd, 2013, 4:34 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
There are still many brainwashed syrians that still suffer the effects of a decaying corrupt dictatorship educational system. They can easily develop a critical spirit. Only religion can help them do it. This is the great gift of Assad the laic, the half prophet half God of the alawites.
July 22nd, 2013, 4:38 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Where is Maher Al Assad hiding, the brave God of the Rats… ?
Anyone saw him after 18th July 2012?
July 22nd, 2013, 4:39 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Where is the fuxxxx air intelligence official I had the pleasure to met at the Palestine Branch of Damascus some years ago?
The place were many people dispappeared forever more.
I hope he is buried and well buried underground of the Idlib plains fertilizing the olives.
July 22nd, 2013, 4:42 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
We are not brave men here. Most brave men died defending their lands and their children and families from the criminal Assad Army. Still some of them remain but if the rebels fail to topple Assad the new population of Syria will receive a genetical influx of cowardness and sadism since most brave men will be gone. The sons and daughters of these brave men will one day topple Assad the GOD DOG and his persian mercenaries.
July 22nd, 2013, 4:46 pm
Ahkir Nahr said:
Greetings, Salaam to all of the Muslim reading this. In April I was kidnapped by The terrorist group known as “Al-Nusra”. For 2 months I watched and studied their works and interviewed several of their fighters. I came to the actualization they are merely freedom fighters, yet they have a hope for Syria that’s impossible now that western culture has spread throughout the Arab world. What amazed me even more was a woman lead this Militia of guerrilla Commando’s. She was Educated in the West and had several men under her leadership, yet recruited many women between the ages of 15-25. These women had been educated in the west as well.
I’ll never forget the day a deal was made for our release, rumored to be Americans(CIA) in return for weapons(ground to air shoulder missiles, Anti-Tank weaponry, and M2 50cal machine guns, a weapon America has used since WW2). When the day came, we were all blindfolded and left what used to be a Syrian Army base, but was now a run down, bullet riddled figment of history, like I said I was blindfolded. As we arrived at the meeting place, it was only a 7-10 minute ride. Militia members seemed joyful that they would have new toys to their arsenal. What would happen next is only what’s expected out of the CIA.
When pulled up to a large plane still running with what appeared to be a young kid and a 8×8 foot crate of metal containers with the weapons. I guess I was expecting an army or SEAL team 6, not some kid with a bunny on his V-neck t-shirt, but boy was I impressed. Turns out they also negotiated for a prisoner, one of the educated woman that had training in spycraft just like the Mossad or FSB or even the CIA, but arrested in America for espionage.
One of the soldiers yelled, “leave your weapon on the plane and remove your vest”! At first I don’t think the guy understood him but his prisoner quickly deciphered the broken English. As he pushed the crate off the plane he yelled for us and at about 150 meters we were told “Yalla Yalla !!!” Although I speak Arabic many of the other journalist didn’t catch on so fast, and before I turned my head, I heard “Pow!!!” And out of no where this kid pulls out a pistol and kills one guard, ran out of ammo and was chased around an 8x8ft(guesstimate) until he picked up the dead guards AK and shot dead his partner.
It only took me 15 seconds to make it to the plane, but this kid was shooting back at the militia so they wouldn’t shoot us. There were no less than 8 jeeps of fighters on Al-Nusra’s side,yet this kid had those soldiers jumping behind their trucks and running for cover. I won’t say her name, but she was an Israeli journalist who actually tried to photograph the gun battle on the blackest night in the desert. As we all got on the plane this mysterious kid yells, “cover, lay down cover fire!”. He runs in and yells “were special forces here to rescue you but I need you all to lay as flat as possible until we’re in the air”. He told me his name was Muhammad Rahman, than I heard Riccio Melo, honestly I didn’t care. With in seconds we were in the air and within minutes we landed. Golan heights isn’t the most ideal place for a Syrian national like me, but I was thankful and screamed “Humdidilah”. I thought Muhammad was getting off with us but he took right back off. Within minutes you could hear heavy bombing and although all of our equipment was taken by the IDF, Muhammad had an accent like John Wayne the cowboy, but had the skin tone of an Arab man, and the height of a basketball player. From what we heard, they destroyed the guerrilla convoy, their base and arrested their leadership. Everyone but Americans know that if American special forces are caught in Syria, Russia and Iran will get involved. I wonder why “Muhammad” would take on such a mission? I mean he had to be American right?
Their plane crashed and the last time I saw him he was bleeding badly but was providing aid to us and helping triage those who were in medical need. I approached him once more and I was surprised he remembered my name. I asked him, “please allow me to interview you” he replied sure, but before I could find a pen, I saw him waiving at my from the backseat of some fighter jet.
So I’m posting this and I’ve been posting on blogs. If you read this Muhammad, reach out to me, let me show the world America is not what non-western society thinks it is. 19 lives were saved that day and Muhammad I will blog everyday until I hear from you.
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September 24th, 2013, 12:22 am
Victor said:
AANPAK JIHADISTEN!
Slappe hap beleid brengt ons naar de ondergang.
Timmermans vrienden uit Qatar en Saudi Arabie staan achter de Jihadisten en zijn ze van plan om Wahabisme, salafisme, Al-Nusra en ISIS en HAMAS ook binnen Nederland te promoten. Al-Nusra en ISIS werden sinds 2011 door de Brusselse bendes gesteund. Onder de naam, ” oppositie van Syrie steunen”, hebben VS en EU, Jihadstrijders versterkt. zie ook 45 miljoen Euro van Nederland die in de zakken van de terroristen is verdwenen..
Qatar en Saudi Arabië zijn de veroorzakers van huidige situatie in het midden-Oosten. Qatar heeft veel gas te koop en wilde een pijpleiding door de ISIS gebied te leggen naar Turkije. Dictators van Qatar en Saudi Arabie, de beste vrienden van PVDA en D66 betalen ISIS Jihadisten. De huidige ellende in deze regio komt door de bemoeienis van dit soort Sharia landen! Als die verrotte regimes van de sjeiks daar verdwijnen, dan keert de rust vanzelf terug. Hun oliedollars wenden zij nu aan om anderen uit te moorden.
Het mohammedanisme wordt wel eens aangeduid als agressie op zoek naar een aanleiding.
Al die clubs als Al-Nusra, Al Qaida, ISIS enzovoorts worden door de moslimlanden gesteund, bewapend en betaald…
De oorlog gaat niet om mensen, maar om geld/macht. salafisten willen meer controle in het midden-oosten…De Moslim landen beginnen significante fondsen naar Turkije en Marokko te sluizen en ontwikkelen instellingen om hun eigen propaganda te verspreiden, inclusief het opzetten van Koranscholen en liefdadige organisaties. Zij halen ook Turken en Marokkanen voor training naar midden-oosten, om zo een nieuwe generatie radicale predikers te scheppen die geschoold waren in een rigide interpretatie van de islam. Dezen worden officieel als imams bekrachtigd in Turkije en Marokko en vervolgens door herkomstlanden naar Europa en Azië gestuurd om de islam te verspreiden.
Stop massaal met het betalen van roofbelastingen tbv het Islamisme en het overnemen van het land door de Brusselse bureaucraten en de jihadisten.
Brusselse Moslim vrienden negeren het wereldwijde islamitische geweld, dat islam een uiterst gewelddadige oorlogsdoctrine is die stelt dat uitkeringen dat ze krijgen, de belastingen zijn die andersgelovigen aan hen moeten betalen. Stop belasting betaling aan deze Jihadisten. Ze moeten hun islamscholen en moskeeën in herkomstland stichten, niet hier…
Gesubsidieerde mensen worden nog agressiever, en denken dat het vanzelfsprekend is dat ze gepamperd worden. Hun leven wordt leeg en zinloos, daardoor vallen ze ten prooi aan gevaarlijke ideologieën.
Maar bovenal: er komen er steeds meer van, want volgens de wetten van de natuur betekent meer te gemakkelijk toegankelijk voedsel, meer nakomelingen. Dus nog meer Moslims in Nederland…Nergens gaat zoveel subsidie heen als naar de zogenaamde Moslimgemeenschappen en zie wat het resultaat is verloedering, criminaliteit en dit is in een sneller dan snel tempo toegenomen nadat Jihadisten de intrek in deze wijken namen.
De explosieve groei van het aantal mensen in het gesubsidieerde gebieden (en dichterbij huis, de gesubsidieerde gelukszoekers) is hiervoor tekenend. En iedereen weet hoe goed het ze gaat. En wat voor problemen het voor de subsidieverstrekkers oplevert.
Het wordt tijd dat er eens een paar miljoen tegenaan gegooid gaat worden om bekeerlingen te deprogrammeren en uit de stront te halen. zwakkelingen moet worden uitgelegd dat de islam is bedoeld om domme mensen voor de gek te houden en tot slaaf te maken.
June 24th, 2014, 5:13 am
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