Should the Use of Chemical Weapons Prompt a US Attack in Syria?

If it is Determined that the Assad Regime Used Chemical Weapons Against Civilians, Should the United States and its Allies Attack Syria?

 

In answer to this question, Joshua Landis and Syria Comment provide the following statement:

 

The US must respond to the use of chemical weapons in a forceful manner, but should not launch a broader intervention in Syria.

Preserving the widely respected international norm banning the use of chemical weapons is a clear interest of the US and international community.

The US, however, should avoid getting sucked into the Syrian Civil War. Thus, it should punish Assad with enough force to deter future use of chemical weapons, but without using so much force that it gets drawn into an open-ended conflict.

The reasons why the US should avoid a wider intervention is that it has no partner within Syria or the international community to help shoulder the burden of nation-building.  All the countries of the region want Washington to solve their Syria problem, but none want to send in troops.

The Syrian opposition is dysfunctional and composed of over 1,000 militias, the strongest of which are radically pro-Islamist and virulently anti-American. Most are not prepared to work with the US or provide responsible government for the country.

The barbarism of the Assad regime is horrifying, but the US cannot solve the bitter ethnic, sectarian, and factional rivalries in Syria. It should, however, attempt to dissuade Assad from using chemical weapons, and can employ force in this endeavor.

Syria Comment’s Position on the Conflict More Generally

Consistently arguing against intervention since the beginning of the conflict has elicited a degree of animosity and anger from those waiting expectantly for the Syrian regime to fall. This feeling is understandable as so much of the country has been destroyed.

We at Syrian Comment are not insulated from the suffering in Syria, but encounter it daily as our friends, family, and associates both in and outside the country relate their stories of anguish and loss. With close to one-third of Syrians displaced (two million having fled the country and close to five million internal refugees) the suffering is staggering. We regularly hear pleas from those we know for personal help and support, often beyond our means.

The argument against intervention, therefore, is a position we maintain while unceasingly observing and witnessing the heartbreaking bloodshed. Despite the tremendous outcry of pain and loss, we still believe that intervention in Syria is not a viable option for America for several important reasons.

Some of those reasons include:

1) Bombing is not a solution: Mere bombing will not provide a solution; in order to disarm militias and protect Syrians, the U.S. would have to put peace-keeping forces on the ground to end revenge killings and provide security, yet Washington has ruled out sending occupation troops into Syria.

2) The financial burden is too high: The U.S. lacks the resources or will to spend enough money to do the necessary nation-building in Syria. This is why having an international coalition willing to send troops into Syria is so important. Militias have to be disarmed and a new state has to be built. Suppressing competing militias and building new central governments in both Iraq and Afghanistan has cost in excess of one trillion dollars apiece.

3) The lack of desire on the part of Americans for another long-term Middle East entanglement without a foreseeable end.

4) The opposition is incapable of providing government services: Millions of Syrians still depend on the government for their livelihoods, basic services, and infrastructure. The government continues to supply hundreds of thousands of Syrians with salaries & retirement benefits. Destroying these state services with no capacity to replace them would plunge ever larger numbers of Syrians into even darker circumstances and increase the outflow of refugees beyond its already high level. Syria can get worse.

Most militias are drawn from the poorer, rural districts of Syria. Most wealth is concentrated in the city centers that remain integral (such as Damascus, Lattakia, Tartus, Baniyas, Hama, etc.), which have survived largely unscathed in this conflict, and have not opted to continue the struggle. If the militias take these cities, there will be widespread looting and lawlessness which will threaten many more civilians who have managed to escape the worst until now.

Many in these urban centers have managed to continue leading fairly stable lives up to the present; despite the tremendous level of destruction seen so far, many areas are still a long way from the bottom. It would be preferable to avoid a Somalia-like scenario in the remaining cities and provinces.

It’s not at all clear that U.S. intervention can improve the economic or security situation for Syrians.

5) Entering the conflict would mean America battling on multiple fronts, not only against the regime: The U.S. has declared itself at war with al-Qaida. If we were to intervene, we would have to enter a new front against the most powerful and effective Syrian opposition militias, in addition to the war against Assad. Our forces would be targeted by extremists and more radically-Islamist militias. We would be fighting a multi-front war.

6) The potential for ethnic cleansing and revenge killings is high: The different ethno-sectarian communities and socio-economic classes are renegotiating the dynamics of their relationship inside Syria. For the last 50 years, Alawites have monopolized the ramparts of power in Syria. They have allied themselves with other minorities and important segments of the Sunni majority, and the regime has preserved its power through a careful sectarian strategy. The rebellion, led primarily by Sunni Arabs of the countryside, aims to supplant the Alawite hold on power. The US cannot adjudicate the new balance of power that will emerge in Syria. It is not prudent to dramatically tip the balance of power in such a supercharged environment of sectarian hatred and class warfare.

Military Action at Present Should Target Chemical Weapons Only

[This heading was misunderstood by some to mean a strike on chemical weapons stockpiles themselves; the intended meaning was that a strike should be designed to deter chemical weapons use. Sorry for the vagueness.]

While the U.S. and the American people are no allies of the Syrian regime (and for good reason), pushing hard for a rebel win today is not in US interests and is unlikely to benefit Syria. Punitive measures taken against the regime following the use of chemical weapons should be conducted with the purpose of deterring the future use of chemical weapons—not to change the balance of power in favor of the rebels.

This is said with full recognition of the terrible atrocities and killing taking place within Syria, including the many crimes of the regime. The Assad regime is not an entity to be protected or defended, but destroying it today may throw the country into greater chaos and suffering and pull the U.S. into a morass that lacks any visible solution.

Long Term Goal of a Power-Sharing Agreement

The US should strive to persuade all parties to reach a power-sharing agreement to end the war. This can only happen with the cooperation of Russia and other players, such as Iran. It is not likely to happen soon, but such a Geneva-style agreement would provide an important framework for a peace process down the road. If Syria is to be kept together as a unified state, a power-sharing agreement must be hammered out, with or without Assad.

Comments (1,127)


PenGun said:

It is fairly obvious this is a put up job. What blows my mind is the lengths the jihad-is are prepared to go.

This went up right in front of an army attack. It is very unlikely any army will use chemicals right up against their own troops. To give the jihad-is the benefit of the doubt it’s likely they got the wind direction wrong.

August 27th, 2013, 12:19 am

 

Syrian said:

Can Chemical Fredo Bashar Corleone grt anymore stupider?
“An American president who has tried desperately to keep the United States out of another war in the Middle East is now weighing a military attack on Syria — cornered by his own statement that a large-scale chemical weapons strike would be a “red line” forcing Washington to respond”
“It began just after 2 a.m.
Those who heard the explosions and lived to tell about them were surprised at the sound, saying it was “like a water tank bursting” or “like opening a Pepsi bottle.”
Then came the smell, which burned eyes and throats, like onions or chlorine.
At the time of the strikes, a few hours before morning prayers, most people were still asleep in their homes. The substance released by the barrage of rockets, which crashed into suburbs on two sides of Damascus, killed many people before they were even able to get out of their beds”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/blasts-in-the-night-a-smell-and-a-flood-of-syrian-victims.html?hpw

August 27th, 2013, 12:24 am

 

Heads-up said:

The following statement made by the respondent to the seemingly innocent question of the main post is FALSE:

False statetment: All the countries of the region want Washington to solve their Syria problem, but none want to send in troops.

Davud Uglo, of Turkey, made it clear today that Turkey will be at the fore front of any coalition formed to punish the regime which has been committing crimes against humanity for over two years. Turkey’s armed forces are the second largest of NATO.

It is obvious the respondent has ulterior motives behind making falsehoods. It is also clear that making deliberate falsehoods voids the respondent of any pretenses to scholarly and objective credibilities.

August 27th, 2013, 12:25 am

 

annie said:

From Pulse Robin Yassin-Kassab

Doing the Rounds

August 26, 2013

So much lazy thinking. Here’s an agit-prop picture doing the rounds, the sort to appeal to the George Galloway crowd. And here’s my comment: “Except it isn’t familiar. In one case they wanted to invade and used chemical weapons as an excuse. There were no chemical weapons. In the other case a genocide has been going on for over two years, they don’t want to invade, don’t even want to arm the people resisting, they don’t have the economic power or pliant international scene to do so even if they wanted; and chemical weapons not only exist, they have been used on a vast scale. Oppose potential US air attacks against Assad bases if you like, but don’t insult the victims of genocide while you’re doing it.”

full text :
http://pulsemedia.org/2013/08/26/doing-the-rounds/

August 27th, 2013, 12:25 am

 

Syrian said:

Great video
A father find his son after he lost him during the chemical attack on Damascus subreb by Chemical Bashar
http://youtu.be/sS9bz29DTSE

August 27th, 2013, 12:27 am

 

Ghufran said:

I do not see how Obama as wrong as he is on Syria could swallow his own words and not send few missiles to attack Syria , so the bombing is coming as a face saving measure and that will be followed by a presidential statement to the American people, most of whom are against this adventure, explaining why he did it and making threats of a larger strike if Assad does not comply with the ” will of the international community” ( most of which is also against using force in Syria). The bottom line is that most players do not care about Syria but realize that there is no way for their allies to win this war decisively and they will try somehow to end this war , however, those players are yet to tell us how they plan on dealing with head cutters and takfiri thugs, I do not see how Syria can stay in one piece, but I will extend a sincere invitation to thwrajiyyeh here, especially the women among them, to move to Nusrastan to enjoy the promised freedom of sharia ibn taymiyyeh style.
What is depressing is the fact that Syrians for now have to choose between Assad and Nusra, I know for a fact that Syrians prefer the devil they know, I just hope that we will get to the day when the good people of syria will have a third decent choice.

August 27th, 2013, 12:28 am

 

Sara said:

Will America let them or even want them to have a decent choice?

August 28th, 2013, 12:22 am

 

Syrian said:

“They knew that people’s sons were on the front lines, so if you hit their families, they would go back and check on them and it would be easier to invade,” said an activist from Zamalka who gave only his first name, Firas. But he said that the tactic had not worked and had instead rallied rebel fighters to defend their positions.

Some military analysts said that the apparent chemical attack appeared to be part of a broader operation by Mr. Assad’s forces, which have also used tanks, conventionally armed rockets and air power to wrest control of rebel areas around the Syrian capital.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/blasts-in-the-night-a-smell-and-a-flood-of-syrian-victims.html?pagewanted=2&hpw

August 27th, 2013, 12:31 am

 

Syrian said:

90 % of Syrians who joined the jehadist group, did so because they had the weapons they needed to defend themselves against a tyrant, who the whole world saw 1st hand this week how crazy he is, Syrian people are moderate muslims in general they just needed weapons to defend themselves, as soon as Chemical Bashar is out, all will go back to their root

August 27th, 2013, 12:38 am

 

Dominique said:

Chemical weapons? Another false-flag incident perpetrated by US-supported Al-Qaeda or of similar brand.

August 27th, 2013, 12:40 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The strike to prevent Assad from using CW in the future,
How that can be accomplished without decimating Assad army, I don’t know, it is enigma, specially it is slipery slope.

once the strike starts,no one knows how it will end.

Piece at a time,will not work,it certainly means we will be back again doing the same thing

August 27th, 2013, 12:52 am

 

Syrian said:

As Head up said , no one ever asked for America to send troop, the Syrians have enough men to do the job, JL seems to forget that he at one point advocated for arming the FSA with heat seeking missiles due to the massive air bombing by Chemical Assad with uninterrupted support from Iran and Russia on anything that moves, but The US would not let the Syrians friends do that,
So if the US did not want to help they should have then got out of the way.

August 27th, 2013, 12:59 am

 

Roland said:

The Western countries should stay out of the war.

Their leaders also have to learn to avoid getting themselves into the “credibility trap.” Since the end of the Cold War Western leaders have developed an ever-worsening habit of routinely issuing ultimata and threats of military action, which leaves often their credibility at stake. Fearing a loss of credibility, these leaders then feel compelled to go to war regardless of whether or not it would be good policy.

Western leaders need to re-learn the art of diplomacy–and the value of prudence.

August 27th, 2013, 1:15 am

 

Heads-up said:

Confirmed reports from well-informed sources: Assad has completed preparations for contingency plans to flee to Tehran along with wife and kids in order to avoid possible capture by Commando Seals, which would land him at the Hague facing an international tribunal.

Asma , however, threatened filing for divorce rather than moving to Tehran. Apparently she prefers life as a divorcee in a London suburb. Assad felt deeply sorry, having turned Chemical, he can no longer move to London. He too may have to settle for divorcee living in a Tehran suburb.

August 27th, 2013, 1:25 am

 

Syrian said:

Chemical Bashar has committed a crime against humanity, he can never be an acceptable choice for a president anymore, not by most Syrian nor any respectable nation will ever deal with him, he will be put to trial no matter where he hide, Augusto Pinochet was finally caught and stood for trial at 91 years old, we will get Chemical Bashar and make him pay no matter how much time it takes for his crimes.

August 27th, 2013, 1:26 am

 

Ghufran said:

Threats to attack Syria is now more than 48 hours old, there will probably be few more days left before the first missile falls on Syria , this is done intentionally for a number of reasons, and this delay will give the intended target plenty of time to take precautions.
Lavrov statement as disappointing to some as it is gives Russia extra room to keep things under control, those who expected lavrov to say that russia will directly attack NATO if the latter bombs Syria are naive, however,what Lavrov was saying is that if NATO needs a fig leaf to keep its face russia will not stop that as long as the proposed strike stays within Russia’s acceptable limits. I will stop writing on this blog if NATO launches the type of campaign some of you are dreaming about. Nobody including the USA trusts the rebels enough to give them the keys to Damascus , do not kid yourself and go try some herbal tea to calm your nerves.
(Repost)

August 27th, 2013, 1:27 am

 

Heads-up said:

Well informed sources confirm that Assad completed preparations for contingency plans to flee to Tehran along with wife and kids in order to avoid possible capture by Commando Seals, which would land him at the Hague facing charges of crimes against humanity in front of an international tribunal.

Asma, however, threatened to file for divorce and move back to London. She also wants to take the kids to England with her. However, it is not clear if she would be welcomed in Britain or would be treated as an enemy combatant by the British government if war breaks out. She has a decision to make and she must make it before bombs start falling.

August 27th, 2013, 1:43 am

 

revenire said:

“however,what Lavrov was saying is that if NATO needs a fig leaf to keep its face russia will not stop that as long as the proposed strike stays within Russia’s acceptable limits”

Do you have a quote for that Ghufran? Lavrov never said that.

August 27th, 2013, 1:49 am

 

omen said:

The potential for ethnic cleansing…is high.

the potential…

if this was going to happen, it would have happened by now.

so far, it’s sunnis who are being ethnically cleansed. a sentence you wont hear in broadcast media. the potent phrase has been reserved for alawites.

August 27th, 2013, 1:55 am

 

omen said:

11. seems to forget that he at one point advocated for arming the FSA with heat seeking missiles.

just one incongruity out of several.

on previous thread, someone mentioned his family. are threats, whether subtle or overt, an influence or pressure that’s helping shape or constrain these arguments?

August 27th, 2013, 2:13 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

bah humbug

August 27th, 2013, 2:22 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

To sum landis’s argument up:
Don’t throw the child molester in jail, he puts bread on the table.

August 27th, 2013, 3:10 am

 

Syrian said:

Oman
In 2005 Joshua Landis was the 1st person to accuse Maher Assad here on Syria comment for the assassination of Rafiq Alhariri, later he pulled that post off after his in-laws in Syria were scared for their safety and pressured him to erase it by JL own admition at that time, now did Ali threats to JL family in Syria in the last thread has something to do with this stand?I don’t know.To me he sounds like someone trying to have a political career and aiming to stay in the Main Street of US politics.

August 27th, 2013, 3:12 am

 

ALI said:

Good statement.

We were expecting a better one but it does the job for now.

August 27th, 2013, 4:13 am

 

ALI said:

Syrian

Just mind your business and don’t stick your nose in others sh!t.

Stop speculating and saying rubbish. Simply Prof. Landis is a man of mind and reason and he sees things different to the way terrorists allies do.

August 27th, 2013, 4:16 am

 

ALI said:

Press conference for Walid al-Muallem at 1:00pm Damascus time.

August 27th, 2013, 4:21 am

 

Sam said:

For all who believe that the SAA used or needs to use CW are embarrassingly naive. And if you think it’s acceptable to bomb a country for Obama to save face, than your all equally fascist minded like all the leaders in the west! You don’t have to like Pres Assad, but siding with terrorist like the ones there now, you are as disgusting as them. I don’t need to see you tube videos , and don’t pretend to have family there!!! I’m Orthodox rum , the scum have infiltrated and committing atrocities worse than wes craven and Stephen king can write when high on acid!!! Disgusting things that wonder if they are human or maybe Manchurian…..I’m still searching for a logical answer from my govt, as to why we are helping Al queda , I don’t put any stock in the term FSA, the militias that call themselves that, are being bullied by nusra anyway, and joining them out of embarrassment. These guys hate our (Americans) guts, and dream of drinking our blood.

August 27th, 2013, 4:27 am

 

apple_mini said:

We people in Damascus are calling the west just go ahead with their dirty war plans. if they want to send in missiles, be my guest.

It is not like we have not seen those things in the short span of this war. Remember Israel, at least twice!

We just want to let them get over their hysterical rhetoric and funky PR show. Even us can no longer have the stomach for the shameful and distasteful stage show.

We hope SAA can be prepared to minimize the casualties. Equipment and weapons can be replaced. Human lives are not, especially those who are sacrificing everything to withstand the invasion of barbarians and its 21st century masters and mastermind.

If those VIP and their families are fleeing the country, we do understand. Even at this very moment, fierce and intense outgoing shelling are still on. That is what it matters.

If those fanatic and dimwit think we will hand over Syria to those backward medevial barbarians, they are just delusional.

August 27th, 2013, 4:38 am

 

Tara said:

Apple, Hardly-a-Human:

“we the people in Damascus”

Sorry. You “are not the people in Damascus”. You are the occupier of Damascus. You came from the mountains, enriched by this corrupted mafia regime, displaced the “people of Damascus” to its poor suburbs and Ghouta and shamelessly declared yourself as “we the people in Damascus”

You have no shame. We do not want you. Get out of our hairs. Leave Damascus to its people and go to where you came from.

August 27th, 2013, 5:00 am

 

Sara said:

Your reply to apple is shameful. She is probably more demashkiah and lives in Damascus. The bombs will fall on them. Shameful

August 28th, 2013, 12:44 am

 

Tara said:

Joshua,

Your response is disappointing! Very!

At some point, opinion leaders should bypass ulterior motives and only listen to their conscience. What Assad has done to Syria and Syrians is unconscionable and you know it. How could one stop the Holocaust without taking the Nazis down? How? Is it not important to stop the Syrian Holocaust? America should bomb Assad’s chemical weapon and leave him alone? To continue slaughtering children? And for what? For a perceived fear of chaos? How successful Assad propaganda! I, at some point, doubt very much if people believe this or just pretend to believe it.

And I will stop here.

August 27th, 2013, 5:22 am

 

omen said:

seems to be a consensus for limited response.

but this will be the end result:

Help the Syrian people, don’t go for a cosmetic strike that will allow Assad to take revenge on Syrians.

Once the “limited strike” is done, Assad will consider his dues paid. He will proceed with conventional massacres.

August 27th, 2013, 5:50 am

 

mjabali said:

This Chemo-Drama is nothing but a PR stunt …

Who shot these Chemicals is yet to be determined. Trying to frame al-Assad in this manner is going to force him to use the Chemicals for real, of course the civilians are going to die?

Both parties has this simple Chemical weapon: Sarin.

How many fighters we saw got poisoned by the “Chemicals?”

Fake is written all over it and the sad thing is the emotional strife this fake story had brought upon many. Those who are faking this story are not concerned with what goes on for the average Syrians who are getting killed.

In my personal opinion this whole thing is FAKE. Hitting al-Assad’s positions is not going to change that much but will raise the bar for this war to another level.

The only solution is political and nothing else.

August 27th, 2013, 6:18 am

 

Syrialover said:

MJABALI, what do you WANT? What do you actually want for Syrians?

More and more of what has been happening? More endless Assad regime atrocities, propaganda and lies?

Unfortunately, when I read #29 I am hit with the impression that it’s YOU who is “not concerned with what goes on for the average Syrians who are getting killed”.

If you don’t actually mean that, please sing a cleaner song.

August 27th, 2013, 6:57 am

 

Syrialover said:

TARA #26,

The explanation for Little Apple’s attitude of “trouble in Syria, what trouble?” has got to be that he has been living as a protected species, in an insulated neighbourhood, reading only regime-approved material, and carefully isolated from anyone affected by regime atrocities.

For corrective therapy he needs to go on a personal tour to view the one-third of Syrian housing stock destroyed by Assad, read a few victim testimonies from the prisons and torture chambers, and have a chat with some of the millions of Syrians now homeless and destitute as a result of regime air and tank attacks.

He needs to be prepared, he may end up in the same situation.

August 27th, 2013, 7:14 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Saddam Hussein II

Professor Landis made some good points, and his heart is in the right place, but you simply can’t leave a mass-murder machine out in the open gobbling up innocent people.

Professor Landis made a very good point:

All the countries of the region want Washington to solve their Syria problem, but none want to send in troops.

And not many anti-regime people here want to address this lack of action by their own people.

Nevertheless, the US should make an effort to ally herself with as many countries as possible to share the burden. Weaken the Assad regime as much as possible, and arm those in the opposition who crave freedom and democracy.

August 27th, 2013, 7:24 am

 

zoo said:

Italy, one the 11 countries remaining from the FOS will not be part of any action outside the Security Council.
It seems out of the EU, only the ex-colonialists powers France and UK will join the US.

Italy insists on UN mandate for any military action in Syria for purported chemical attack

By The Associated Press August 27, 2013 7:01 AM

http://www.canada.com/news/Italy+insists+mandate+military+action+Syria+purported+chemical/8837616/story.html

ROME – Italy is insisting that any military strike against Syria for its alleged chemical attack on civilians must be authorized by the U.N. Security Council.

Briefing Parliament on Tuesday, Foreign Minister Emma Bonino called the chemical attack a “war crime” but said the government wouldn’t support military action without Security Council authorization.

August 27th, 2013, 7:28 am

 

zoo said:

Australia in a bind. It is taking over the presidency of the UNSC, thus will be unable to join a coalition not authorized by the UNSC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-27/rudd-reveals-conversation-with-obama-in-lowy-institute-speech/4914324

The Prime Minister emphasised that Australia assumes the role of president of the UN Security Council this Sunday for one month.

“We assume the presidency of the UN Security Council at a time when the Syria crisis is at its highest,” he said.

“Without doubt Syria is now the world’s greatest political crisis and unfolding humanitarian disaster.

“What we are confronting as an international community now is a fundamental assault on all international norms by what appears to be the use by this regime of chemical weapons against innocent civilians.

“This is a crisis of historic proportions. It is not just one of those crises that happen.

“We are living through it and we find ourselves on the UN Security Council and in the position of presidency at this time.

“History will judge us all on the decisions we make today, just as it judged us harshly and rightly so on Srebenica, and just as it judged us also on Rwanda.”

August 27th, 2013, 7:31 am

 

Heads-up said:

Syrian 21:

Oman
In 2005 Joshua Landis was the 1st person to accuse Maher Assad here on Syria comment for the assassination of Rafiq Alhariri, ….

The difference in today’s falsehood presentation by the same culprit is that there Is NO statement to deny or to pull off. This is a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS attempt at presenting falsehoods indicative of the clear presence of ulterior motives proving without any shadow of doubt that the culprit lacks the least modicums of objectivity and is totally void of any pretenses to scholarly credibility. I do not believe in making excuses for such behaviour particularly when you know of such past behaviour. Reason would compel one to say that the culprit HAS been deliberiately falsifying all along. It (reason) certainly doesn’t call for giving the culprit any more benefits of the doubt. It calls for putting him soundly and squarely in the category of the most doubted and lthe east trusted.

August 27th, 2013, 7:36 am

 

zoo said:

Josh

Finally an excellent and realistic post. To the point, far from the fantasist scenarios that many expats are elaborating of a final “victory” of the opposition.

After having handed over the revolution to Islamists and now to the US, the SNC members should be judged and executed for high treason. They can’t have any role in Syria’s future. The SNC memebers better end their days in Turkey under Erdogan’s protection.

I doubt the Arab league that got out of the snake Qatar’s influence will condone any important attack on Syria. Even Saudi Arabia who started the whole thing is getting worried of the impact on the Arabs. If ever there are strikes, they will be of limited scale..
These attacked will then clearly perceived as the 1958 war against Egypt sovereignty: A war by Western countries ( again France and UK) closely associated with Israel to bring Syria to its knees.

Like it happened in 1958, I expect the Syrian government will become even more popular among the Syrians and Arabs to have stood up against the hated US and its colonialist cronies ( France,UK, Turkey).
The dead Syrians resulting from these attacks will become the martyrs of Syria’s rejection of slavery.
Obama will loose the chance of fulfilling his 2 years old call: Bashar will come out even stronger and will stay in power.

August 27th, 2013, 7:57 am

 

zoo said:

The USA keeps repeating that it is after a ‘durable and comprehensive’ political solution in Syria.
Then are these eventual strikes on Syria intended to force both sides to come to the Geneva conference or it it a fuzzy plan to bypass the political process and hand over the country to the islamistly polluted and disunited opposition?

US postpones meeting with Russia on Syria
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/international/article5064867.ece
Washington, Aug 27:

The US has postponed a meeting with Russia this week aimed at finding a resolution to the Syrian crisis, as it is weighing a military strike against the Arab country in the wake of alleged use of chemical weapons.

“Given our ongoing consultations about the appropriate response to the chemical weapons attack in Syria on August 21, we have decided to postpone Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Wendy Sherman and the US Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford’s meeting with a Russian delegation that was scheduled for this week in the Hague,” a senior State Department official said yesterday.

On condition of anonymity, the official said that the US will work with its Russian counterparts to reschedule the meeting aimed at discussing plans for an international peace conference to end the civil war in the Arab country.

“As we’ve long made clear — and as the events of August 21 reinforce — it is imperative that we reach a comprehensive and durable political solution to the crisis in Syria. The US remains fully invested in that process,” the official said.

August 27th, 2013, 8:10 am

 

zoo said:

15. Heads-up

Just in a few posts, you fake sourceless rumors have reached a level of stupidity that the worst propagandists on this site have never reached.

Continue, it’s having a healthy result.

August 27th, 2013, 8:18 am

 

Ghat Al Bird said:

The proper and respectful international reaction of the US would be to through the UN call for a cease fire in Syria and undertake a political solution.

Americans must not forget past transgressions in the use of chemical weapons as reported by:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401378/Generation-Orange-Heartbreaking-portraits-Vietnamese-children-suffering-devastating-effects-toxic-herbicide-sprayed-US-Army-40-years-ago.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402174/CIA-helped-Saddam-Hussein-carry-chemical-weapons-attack-Iran-1988-Ronald-Reagan.html

August 27th, 2013, 8:19 am

 

zoo said:

The Geneva conference pops up again. The strikes seem to serve the West purpose of forcing the opposition to accept Geneva without loosing face

As expected, the opposition has been officially warned that after ‘strikes’ are inflicted on the Syrian army to satisfy the SNC wounded ego and boost its weak power of negotiations, it will have to go to Geneva, without any conditions

The west tells Syrian opposition to expect strike within days

11 minutes ago | August 27th, 2013 12:07:09 GMT by Ryan
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2013/08/27/the-west-tells-syrian-opposition-to-expect-strike-within-days/

According to sources who were at a meeting between envoys and the Syrian coalition

– Aim of military strike would be to deter further use of chemical weapons
– Opposition has suggested list of potential targets
– Western powers advise Syrian opposition to prepare for Geneva talks despite impending attack

August 27th, 2013, 8:27 am

 

Hopeful said:

#36 Zoo

“After having handed over the revolution to Islamists and now to the US…..”

Wait … I thought it was the United States that was behind the revolution to start with… whatever happened to that conspiracy theory?

“Finally an excellent and realistic post….”

So you agree with JL that “The barbarism of the Assad regime is horrifying”? This is good progress….

August 27th, 2013, 8:27 am

 

Mjabali said:

Syrian:

The only solution we should aspire for is political when people from all parties try to salvage what is left of Syria .

I have been saying this from day one . Atrocities are committed by ALL parties , some massacres are happening every day now .

If we , Syrians , do not think rationally the atrocities that are going to happen are bigger than what we witnessed so far .

The way things are going shows that that is less space for logic these days.

Syrian civilians from all sides are paying the price . Again the only way to solve this is through political meetings asap.

August 27th, 2013, 8:30 am

 

zoo said:

A nonsensical development: Dubai bourse plummets most since 2009 due to Syrian crisis

http://www.albawaba.com/business/dubai%2C-bourse%2C-plummeting–516344

“Politically, the region is a mess and concerns of war in Syria are high,” said Yassir Mckee, wealth manager at Qatar’s Al Rayan Financial Brokerage.

“But the extent of the drop doesn’t make sense and people are over-reacting because local fundamentals are strong and even if there is a war, I don’t see it significantly impacting Gulf countries.”

August 27th, 2013, 8:31 am

 

Syrialover said:

Oh boy, not a good look for Professor Landis with his list of why America will not and should not really damage Assad. See endorsements from ALI, ZOO …

In some ways I sense what Dr Josh would have liked to say, but it didn’t come out right because he unnecessarily went on about intervention, which is not what appears to be planned.

Meanwhile, Burhan Ghalioun – always good to read (Arabic) – https://twitter.com/ghaliounn

August 27th, 2013, 8:34 am

 

Syrialover said:

#42. MJABALI stop playing around. You KNOW there can be no hope of a negotiated political solution while Assad is there. He’s made that very clear from the start.

So how about the reality of what needs be step 1, before you start dreaming about steps 2, 3 and so on.

August 27th, 2013, 8:44 am

 

Heads-up said:

38 Zoo,

From what I read you have a rather a severe liability reputation that may severely tarnish those you wish to endorse such as the falsifying preacher which I identified. See#44.

In case you have rudimentary knowledge of Arabic poetry, I found the following a good fit for your case:

وان اتتك مذمتي من ناقص
فهي الشهادة باني كامل

I will be happy to translate if you do not understand the language.

August 27th, 2013, 8:46 am

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up no one cares. You are a comedy act.

Carry on.

🙂

August 27th, 2013, 8:55 am

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

Joshua is free to qualify the regime as barbaric. I believe the unprepared regime overreacted nervously and recklessly at first but then has followed a consistent pattern of restrain while the opposition has gone from pseudo-peaceful to full “barbaric”.
Heads chopped, cannibalism is what I call barbaric. Fighting against terrorists can never be brutal enough. The USA knows that well in Afghanistan and Israel too when it fights against its own ‘terrorists’
The USA has been wishing to replace Bashar al Assad with an Israel-friendly government for years but never felt the urgency of doing it.

Right from the start, the opposition relied on Qatar and Turkey who in turn were advised by the US, UK and France who were taking a back seat. Now that these allies brought the opposition to a total failure and that incompetent Saudi Arabia has taken over, the opposition wanted to force the US and its cronies to be directly involved so they use the “chemical attack” event as a ‘humanitarian’ pretext.

The US is now directly and reluctantly involved to the neck and just doesn’t know how to get out of it.
The USA’s only chance to turn this constructively is to go ahead with minor and symbolic attacks on Syria and then tell the opposition: “Now, stop whining, we did that to boost you and save your face, now you stop kidding and you go to Geneva without putting for any more conditions”

August 27th, 2013, 8:56 am

 

Heads-up said:

Well informed and highly placed sources within Middle Eastern Airlines and Iran Airways divulged higly sensitive information regarding the travel of Syrian persons with these airlines out of Beirut airport to Iran and other destinations mostly in South America, Australia and Europe. The travellers have the following surnames:

الاسد
مخلوف
ناصيف
جامع
ديوب
الحمد
خير بك
زهر الدين
يونس
شاليش
حسون
الاحمد
حسن
زيتون
عفيف
فهد
سليمان
مملوك
غزالة
درغام
عثمان

الخ الخ الخ

August 27th, 2013, 8:58 am

 

Syrialover said:

Oh God, look at Walid Muallam. What a bizarre figure! Nobody could believe he’s a real Foreign Minister, and it’s even more ridiculous when you hear what he’s saying.

Showing him onstage confirms to the world what an implausible, ugly outfit the Assad regime is.

Roll on the day when Syrians don’t have to be humiliated and embarrassed by such a weird clown “representing” their country.

August 27th, 2013, 8:58 am

 

zoo said:

# Heads-up

Please stick to carrying rumors and forget about poetry.
It’s much more entertaining.

August 27th, 2013, 9:04 am

 

Heads-up said:

51 Zoo,

Come again!!

Poetry or not, I decide what to say.

So do you mind if you shut up and mind your own business?

August 27th, 2013, 9:12 am

 

Syrialover said:

HEADS-UP, I’m laughing at REVENIRE calling you a comedy act. He’s saying “you are the same as me”.

You are making him and ZOO nervous and he can’t think what else to say to insult you.

August 27th, 2013, 9:12 am

 

zoo said:

Head-up

Then it is not your business to tell me to read your poetry.

In the contrary I encourage you to spread more gossips. It is really entertaining, all these names and small talks…

August 27th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

Hopeful said:

#48 Zoo

The moment Bashar Assad made his first speech in 2011 and accused the demonstrators of being traitors, criminals and foreign agents of a global conspiracy, he set into motion a chain of events that resulted in where we are today. You simply cannot continue to cover up his mistakes and failures (not to mention crimes), by continuing to point out the mistakes and failures of the opposition.

I will not disagree with you on many of the things you said about the opposition, but the puck stops with the president of Syria and the regime that leads it. They are the ones accountable first and foremost to the nation they lead.

August 27th, 2013, 9:24 am

 

revenire said:

Get on with it. We’re waiting for the attack. I am sure the SAA is shaking in their boots.

August 27th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

mjabali said:

Syrialover:

You have to be a realist. If you want al-Assad to go you need to find a way to achieve this, right?

So far the war method did not reach that goal. al-Assad is still there and has power, allies, weapons, and recruits. The same goes on to the other party and that is why we are having a LONG war. In the meantime, people are dying and the country is gone.

Now: No one knows who is involved in this mess anymore: but, what we all know is that civilians are getting killed in this savage war.

Civilians from all parties are getting killed by the dozens and the ONLY way to reach something close to that is through negotiation and not through more war.

August 27th, 2013, 9:31 am

 

Jasmine said:

If it is Determined that the Assad Regime Used Chemical Weapons Against Civilians, Should the United States and its Allies Attack Syria?

Adding to the reasons mentioned above,IMHO Russia,Iran and China are not exactly going to stand and watch,and it will be the start of WWIII.
The only reason of the attack would be to assure Israel by its allies that her safety is their priority and probably Obama would like to mend his dented reputation with the red line crossings of chemical weapons(not a very good idea for a peace Nobel prize winner).

No one cared any less about Syria or Syrians,if they did,we wouldn’t reach this miserable situation,and they would enforce the political solution and not the continuous feeding of arms to both sides.

August 27th, 2013, 9:35 am

 

revenire said:

Syrialover will not get what he wants. That’s certain.

August 27th, 2013, 9:37 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

“Bombing is not a solution”
Bombing could be different levels,it may however decimate Assad army, if Assad loses his ability to fly helicopters and jets,this will strengthen the FSA, Assad airforce is the reason that Assad was able to advance lately.
bombing will result in Assad losing soldiers.
So bombing could change the balance of power, so bombing could be a solution

August 27th, 2013, 9:37 am

 

sami said:

It is beyond belief to read someone that spends everyday pasting articles, excusing the inexcusable, spinning the truth, and out right lying accuse someone else of being a propagandists…

Apple “I took only a handkerchief to a gassing” Mini,

You are not eligible to use the qualifier of “we” when speaking of Damascus. Shamis and 2ahl al-reef have a very intricate and deep rooted relationship of sticking up for each other. The people of Ghouta came to defend Damascus many times, as Damascenes have housed them through many droughts.

No Damascene would deny their story, deny their pain, deny their death as you have shown on here many times.

Your so-called moral code is repugnant and as backward as those takfiri thugs, because at the end of the day you are the other side of the same blood soaked coin.

August 27th, 2013, 9:44 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

“Bombing is not a solution”
Bombing will include bombing HA, who is going to do it?
Turkey will be involved too, it is slipery slope

August 27th, 2013, 9:45 am

 

revenire said:

Sami you are another one who will not be rewarded by Obama’s crimes. You will be sorely disappointed as your former nation’s people are murdered by NATO. The army won’t stop killing terrorists. Watch.

August 27th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

Tara said:

Yeah

Everyone and his brother are now “Damascene”. Stealing a house in Damascus using blood and corruption money is not a qualifier of being a Damascene. Get out of our hairs.

August 27th, 2013, 9:54 am

 

Heads-up said:

54 Zoo,

It certainly is NOT your business to address me as you did in 38.

So again, do you mind if you shut up and mind ONLY your business?

August 27th, 2013, 9:56 am

 

Sami said:

MJabali,

Do you really believe Assad is someone that can be negotiated with in good faith? After all that he has done and the mess he has created can this thug be trusted?

Honestly I really wish more Alawis like yourself rejected Assad and strived to negotiation and political pluralism rather than Assad ila Al-abad rhetoric.

If a negotiated settlement can ever be reached Sunnis need to reject extremism in the form of Al-Qaeda and Alawis need to reject their extremism and that is Assadism.

I really hope to see the day when the Khayyer’s, and Tayara’s leading your community rather than the thugs like Assad and Kayali’s that are hijacking your community.

August 27th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

revenire said:

“Air power is a brittle instrument and that the use of any level of missile strike against Syria will inevitably lead to greater and greater measures in order to avoid the appearance of weakness that failure of effect will create.” – Col. Patrick Lang (USA, Ret)

The US will need to do more or they will appear even weaker than they already do.

August 27th, 2013, 10:03 am

 

revenire said:

Tars one thing is certain: you’re not a Damascene.

It would appear you are getting one of your fantasies fulfilled. I hope is sates your blood lust.

I was not able to be here last night to attend to your needs but I have time today.

August 27th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

revenire said:

Tara one thing is certain: you’re not a Damascene.

It would appear you are getting one of your fantasies fulfilled. I hope is sates your blood lust.

I was not able to be here last night to attend to your needs but I have time today.

August 27th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Head up
welcome back
Excuse Zoo he is going very very nervous(FUN)

Bombing is not a solution, this is not a military analysis
Wounded Assad is weaker than a mouse, his den in the coastal area will be bombed
Bombing is the turning point in this war

August 27th, 2013, 10:06 am

 

revenire said:

It won’t be the turning point in the war. If the US wants to do that it will require US troops preceded by a sustained air campaign.

Majed your call for Syrian blood will get relieved soon. Enjoy seeing Syrian women and children killed by American air strikes – Sunni women and children.

Syria doesn’t use chemical weapons. It never has.

The United States has though.

August 27th, 2013, 10:12 am

 

revenire said:

Kerry is the same sort of war criminal that Colin Powell was – waving his vial of “anthrax” around the UN to justify genocide.

The US murdered 500,000 Iraqis between sanctions and war.

August 27th, 2013, 10:16 am

 

zoo said:

@70 Majed

Yes, it is a turning point. Watch the opposition going to Geneva next month heads down.

August 27th, 2013, 10:16 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
Syrian women will not be killed by US bombing, your speces will be killed, only Assad kills children and women

August 27th, 2013, 10:17 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
The opposition will go to geneva with head up. not with head down like Assad turned mouse

August 27th, 2013, 10:22 am

 

revenire said:

Syrian women and children will be SLAUGHTERED by the US war criminals.

You just can’t face that hard truth or you’d crack up Majed.

You wanted their blood and your master Obama is offering you Sunni heads on a platter.

Beg for more than an a few air strikes. You will need more than a few.

Begging is what you do best.

August 27th, 2013, 10:24 am

 
 

zoo said:

#65 Heads up

By posting here, you are exposing yourself to criticism and reactions. There is no “my business” and “your business” here. It is a public free speech blog.
I intend to continue reacting the way I feel appropriate to the posts that I deem to choose.

You don’t like it? then easy.. complain to the moderator ( Scmoderator @mail.com ) or move to another Blog.

August 27th, 2013, 10:28 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

ماذا قال جون كيري لوليد المعلم حين اتصل به برأيكم؟
شو تغديت اليوم وليد
Or go get diapers
I think the best thing Assad can do is to quit and leave Syria,but he is Booha he is not smart,just like those who defend him, miscalculating in a stupid way,talking nonsense

WWW

August 27th, 2013, 10:29 am

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up more silly rumors please. I need a good laugh this morning after reading Majed saying how happy he will be when Sunni woman and children die in Obama’s war crime attack.

August 27th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

revenire said:

Majed Assad, nor the SAA, will be leaving Syria.

You, however, will not be going to Syria.

All this death won’t bring your brother back. The desire for revenge is eating you alive.

August 27th, 2013, 10:34 am

 

apple_mini said:

So much hot air and cheap talk on this site.

Reality checks:

1. US and its allies of beacon of humanity will strike Syria;

2. Army suffers loss not bigger than two Israeli strikes combined;

3. SAA and majority of Syrians will harden their resolve further;

4. The death squad will not gain from the strike. AAMOF, SAA will unleash momentum those have not seen before. Yes, SAA is no match for US hegemony but it is capable to smack its puppet;

5. War continues and SAA advances further…

Those Sunni who are still holding fantasy to claim Damascus as their city show twisted mindset.

Those Sunni Syrian expats who are screaming for it and hoping the death squad can help them achieve that. It is doubly delusional.

Just check out Afghanistan after Taliban.

August 27th, 2013, 10:34 am

 

Alan said:

طز بجون كيري و لتحلقه مثيرة الاشمئزاز غونداليزا رايس غراب الشر !

August 27th, 2013, 10:35 am

 

MK said:

So, the great Syria expert, Landis waits till it is crystal clear that the timid Obama will launch limited airstrikes before commenting that the U S should conduct limited airstrikes.

How this guy qualifies for anything more than partisan Assad hack is beyond belief. He claims that places like Hama are stable, conveniently forgetting that Hama has risen up to the tune of half a million against Assad before he brutally suppressed them.

Egyptians have shown that they can get rid off a dictator and the Islamist that have followed him, and the Syrians will do the same.

Landis argument that Assad pays the bills is at best deranged. Assad is using the resources of the Syrian people to offer bread crumbs, while him and his elk are living the high life. The Syrians will manage to get their own bread, what they need most, Mr. landis is freedom from your tyrant in laws.

August 27th, 2013, 10:37 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Russia pulled their ships from Tartous and far away

August 27th, 2013, 10:42 am

 
 

zoo said:

#75 Majed

The opposition has been repeating for 2 years and 100,000 dead that Bashar al Assad must resign before the conference and that they will never sit on the same table with regime officials under the control of Bashar Al Assad.

Well that’s exactly what they will do. They have been forced to renounce to the pre-conditions they have hammered us for 2 years.
They will going to Geneva not only head down but crawling.

You want to make us believe that this humiliating defeat is a “victory” now that the USA plans to punish lightly Bashar Al Assad for unproven acts. Who are you fooling?

August 27th, 2013, 10:47 am

 

habib said:

Bring it on. A US airstrike will finally put the retards who claim the West is secretly supporting Assad to shame.

Plus it will open the eyes of many other Arabs. Maybe would-be Jihadis will realise they are fighting on the wrong side.

And whatever the US does, it won’t be worse than what we have already seen. So it won’t make a military difference. What are troops more afraid of? Slow beheadings, or quick death by bombs?

So again, just bring it on.

August 27th, 2013, 10:50 am

 

Heads-up said:

So, what is the real objective behind the seemingly innocent question of the main post and the deliberate falsification by the respondent, which we now gather to be a habitual trait of the culprit since days long bygone?

Well, some readers have already identified the main issue at play. Launching a military operation in Syria by NATO is now a forgone conclusion. It seems everyone is resigned that it will come shortly. So, the issue arises as to the extent of such operation. Hence, the respondent jumped into putting forward the falsehoods that neighboring countries are unwilling to put soldiers on the ground while expecting the US to carry out the burden on their behalf. As a result, the suggestion is made that, as a face saving exit, a slap on the face of the criminal Assad would be sufficient and save the day. Furthermore, it is implied that such a limited-in-scope operation will lead to the illusive so-called political solution envisaged in such scheme as Geneva to the nth degree.

The fundamental issue at play here is that we are dealing with a snake-like regime, while some are calling for the cutting of the tail instead of crushing the head. If history is any guide, such snake-like regimes have the tendency to rebound after an operation on the tail in order to commit even greater atrocities than it already committed. You do not negotiate with such characters that have shown a clear tendency to commit crime and atrocities of unimaginable proportions. You do not even imply that such snake-like character can even hope for impunity in the form of a political deal or otherwise. There is only one possible outcome for such criminals of historical magnitude: retribution through the justice system in which the victims will feel properly compensated. Such individual(s) do(es) not deserve to have the sun rise above him (them) one more day than it did already. They need to be buried in the thick of the night among the demons that they unleashed and left for the wolves to devour.

It is clear to any novice of political science that the criminal Assad was testing the waters as to how far he can go using his WMD’s and how much punishment, if any, the world is willing to exercise against him. Reputed scholarly figures such, as Hussein Ibish, have nailed this issue at the head by addressing, in his latest article, Go Strategic in Syria, John Kerry. Failure to heed the advice of such people of foresight will only haunt the US and the world not far in the future after a contemplated slap-on-the-wrist military operation which would leave the head of the snake wiggling for an opportunity to spew its Chemical poisons on the innocent population which has paid dearly over the last 100o days or so due to incompetent and child-like behaviour of the US vis-à-vis the Syrian crisis.

The proper course of action would be to provide NATO cover for Turkey to send in its armed forces into anywhere in Syria, clean up the snake’s den and build a Syrian army in the image of NATO and rid the region of all its ills. This is what George W. Bush failed to do when he had the chance to do it. It is now falling on Obama’s lap to correct. This is what half-done tasks do to you. They haunt you later on. Obama has had a fixating obsession with undoing anything that has to do with the so-called Bush’s legacy. It is the legacy of the failure of GWB in this regard which Mr. Obama needs to be addressing and NOT the abandonment of Iraq and presenting it on a silver platter to the fateful sectarian regime of the Iranians which has poisoned the whole region and is threatening to poison the world far beyond. And this is exactly why the US has become the laughing stock of every regime in that part of the world.

August 27th, 2013, 10:50 am

 

revenire said:

Where are all the gloating beggars who were drunk yesterday on Tomahawk cruise missile attacks raining death down on Syria women and children?

Please rub my face in your great victory.

Scream for American attacks.

Beg.

Beg Israel to join in.

August 27th, 2013, 10:52 am

 

revenire said:

Hussein Ibish is trash. Beggars like his scribbling.

August 27th, 2013, 10:53 am

 

zoo said:

Head up

“The proper course of action would be to provide NATO cover for Turkey to send in its armed forces into anywhere in Syria, clean up the snake’s den and build a Syrian army in the image of NATO and rid the region of all its ills”

Oh yeah, brilliant idea. Turkey has been showing for 2 years its readiness to send boots on the ground…
You can count on that hypocrite coward who got a big slap on his face after the fall of his best friend Morsi and who has rushed to accuse Israel of being behind that fall.

I think I prefer your rumors.

August 27th, 2013, 11:01 am

 

zoo said:

Opposition clearly told to prepare for Geneva

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/80072/World/Region/West-could-hit-Syria-in-days,-envoys-tell-rebels.aspx

Several sources who attended a meeting in Istanbul on Monday between Syrian opposition leaders and diplomats from Washington and other governments told Reuters that the rebels were told to expect military action and to get ready to negotiate a peace.

“The opposition was told in clear terms that action to deter further use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime could come as early as in the next few days, and that they should still prepare for peace talks at Geneva,” one of the sources said.

Ahmad Jarba, president of the Syrian National Coalition, met envoys from 11 states in the Friends of Syria group, including Robert Ford, the US ambassador to Syria, at an Istanbul hotel.

August 27th, 2013, 11:05 am

 

zoo said:

As expected, the Arab League now controlled by Saudi Arabia hold Assad responsible of the attack before any conclusive proof are obtained

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/80072/World/Region/West-could-hit-Syria-in-days,-envoys-tell-rebels.aspx

In an indication of support from Arab states that may help Western powers argue the case for war against UN vetoes from Moscow and Beijing, the Arab League issued a statement holding Assad’s government fully responsible for the chemical attack.

“Diplomatic sources said the statement, issued after a meeting of Arab League delegates in Cairo, was pushed through with strong backing from Saudi Arabia and Qatar.”

August 27th, 2013, 11:09 am

 

Afram said:

To sum landis’s argument up:
Going to MC Donald,s for a salad is like going to a W.HORE for a hug

August 27th, 2013, 11:10 am

 

Heads-up said:

78. zoo:

#65 Heads up

By posting here……………….

If you insist on barking, then you can bark in the wilderness if you insist… or in the zoo in the form of self-barking echoes. It makes no difference to me.

August 27th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

revenire said:

Zoo seems to really get under your skin Heads-Up. My advice is try to enjoy SC. We are not all Zionist boot-lickers here.

It is a give and take. You have to roll with the punches.

Any new rumors?

August 27th, 2013, 11:28 am

 

Alan said:

Italy rules out action in Syria without UN
Italy on Tuesday ruled out taking part in any type of military intervention in Syria without UN Security Council approval, saying there was no alternative to “a negotiated political solution”.
http://www.thelocal.it/20130827/italy-rules-out-action-in-syria-without-UN

August 27th, 2013, 11:29 am

 

revenire said:

‘West seeks to drown Syria in blood’ – Abdullatif Sener, former Turkish Deputy Prime Minister

The West’s Syrian policy has been unclear to me from the very start. I can’t understand how it’s possible to back the Syrian opposition when it’s known that it consists mainly of foreigners, and not Syrians. It’s a mob of militants and terrorist groups trained in various countries, a conglomerate seeking to drown Syria in blood. Naturally, those terrorist groups share the bulk of responsibility for the carnage in Syria, and the rest lies with countries that support and arm those international terrorists.

Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_27/Abdullatif-Sener-West-seeks-to-drown-Syria-in-blood-4842/

August 27th, 2013, 11:31 am

 

zoo said:

#95 Heads up

“then you can bark in the wilderness”

Glad to see that are showing your true nature of using cheap insults as response to polite criticism.

August 27th, 2013, 11:36 am

 
 

zoo said:

Waiting for Obama green light with the ‘official’ scope limited to punish and deter Syria from using chemical weapons but neither to topple Bashar al Assad, not to establish a no-fly zone.
We know where Libya’s “official” scope of only protecting civilians went, who can now trust the USA’s European and Arab vultures?

U.S. Said to Weigh Legal Justification for Attack on Syria

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/u-s-said-to-weigh-legal-justification-for-attack-on-syria.html

The Obama administration is working on constructing the legal and political justification for a limited military strike on Syria that would demonstrate international censure against chemical weapons, according to a U.S. official.

Any action taken by the U.S. would have a narrow scope and not be aimed at taking out Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, the official said, contrasting it to the allied offensive in Libya that targeted Muammar Qaddafi. A strike would concentrate on Syria’s weapons capabilities.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said yesterday that no decision has been reached on taking action and another administration official said there was no change today.

The administration is consulting with U.S. lawmakers and allies such as the U.K. and France about possible military action.

The introduction of troops isn’t being considered, nor is imposition of a no-fly zone over Syria, according to the official, who asked for anonymity because the plans haven’t been publicly released.

August 27th, 2013, 11:45 am

 

revenire said:

The US doesn’t have a legal justification – not that not having one will stop them. If there was justice in this world Bush and his criminal conspirators – like Blair – would be on trial for war crimes committed in Iraq. The US attacks nations because it can.

Cheer on the death of Syrian women and children – to be murdered in an illegal American attack.

Syria will fight on.

August 27th, 2013, 11:48 am

 
 

Heads-up said:

Are you guys aware of the following very common Arabic saying?

رمتني بدائها وانسلت

Just so you know….

be aware of getting infected with
داء الكَلَب from those who are obviously infected. I can identify two such infected specimens already. And I am being warned by some of you that the infected are getting nervous.

August 27th, 2013, 11:49 am

 

zoo said:

USA Awe and Punishment for Syria: Sea-to-land strikes for two days. Only 9% of the American agree

Obama reportedly considering two-day strike on Syria
http://rt.com/usa/us-syria-strike-chemical-060/
….
According to the Post, the likely response from Washington would be a sea-to-land strike from the Mediterranean that would last no longer than two days and would not be directed towards targets where the chemical weapons arsenal is believed to be stored.

But while an attack is all but imminent and will likely be launched from warships already mobilized in the Mediterranean by the week’s end, public support in the US has teetered towards nil as of late. The Obama administration says there is undeniable proof that chemical weapons were used on civilians outside of Damascus on August 21, but a five-day-long Reuters poll taken during that time concluded only nine percent of Americans favor intervention.

August 27th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

zoo said:

Let’s welcome our veterinary on board

We have already an eminent doctor on board who is an “expert” in religious and military matters with a good dose of psychic. Now we have a veterinary expert in poetry, sayings and rumors.
Enjoy.

August 27th, 2013, 12:00 pm

 

Majed97 said:

So now the SAA will have to fight directly with the real “oppositions/revolutionaries”, namely the U.S., France, and England. At lease the whole world knows now who the SAA has been fighting against all alone. From a PR standpoint, this can only strengthen the Syrian government’s position. This “revolution” is becoming more transparent by the day…

August 27th, 2013, 12:01 pm

 

zoo said:

“The UK is in a very small minority of countries that believe it is lawful,”

Is UK military action in Syria legal? – the key questions

http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-military-intervention-legal-cameron-hague-un

Parliament is due to meet on Thursday to debate military action against Syria. But how can the government make intervention legally sound?
..
Dapo Akande, lecturer in international law at Oxford University, told Channel 4 News that Britain would find it “very difficult to argue” that military action in Syria is legal without a resolution, even though Foreign Secretary William Hague has said it would be.

“The UK is in a very small minority of countries that believe it is lawful,” Akande said. “People wonder why it is that international law doesn’t allow for unilateral action in these kinds of cases, and it’s exactly about the question of whether it would do more harm than good.”

He added that military action could be given “legitimacy, if not legality” by a straight vote in the UN General Assembly of all its international members, but this approach has not been taken for decades, mainly due to concern among the security council that its authority could be undermined.

August 27th, 2013, 12:05 pm

 

zoo said:

“It will strengthen Bashar al Assad”

US strike on Syria would be illegal ‘act of war’
by Alastair Crooke, August 27, 2013

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Global-Viewpoint/2013/0827/US-strike-on-Syria-would-be-illegal-act-of-war

The Obama administration is right to be caution about US intervention in Syria. For the US to launch a military strike without UN Security Council sanction would constitute an illegal ‘act of war’ against a sovereign state. (The Kosovo precedent cannot make an illegal act legal).
….
Although the European constituency (Britain and France) are chafing with impatience to begin retaliation even before evidence has been amassed, the US administration has been more cautious. This is wise. Wars are always treacherous in their facts, and for the US to launch a military strike without Security Council sanction (which it will not get) would constitute an illegal “act of war” against a sovereign state – and a crime. (The Kosovo precedent cannot change an illegal act into a legal one).

But more substantially, what might be the outcome of, let us say, a cruise missile fired at a military target in Syria: a rhetorical strike, as it were, rather than a major military intervention?
..
So far, Syria has always turned a blind eye. The government knows well that Western special forces have supported the insurgents, but it has chosen to overlook this covert aspect. Mr. Assad has always insisted, however, that his “red line” is Syrian sovereignty. An explicit and public US attack on his country plainly crosses this “line.” It is by no means assured that the Syrian government would remain passive: that it would not respond. Neither is it likely that Russia or China easily would tolerate the West again (after Libya) bypassing the UN and the international order to concoct some spurious “Friends of Syria” legitimacy for its illegal military action.

Still less clear would be the consequences inside Syria of such an intervention. Does anyone seriously imagine that a cruise missile attack on their homeland would make ordinary Syrians long for the inchoate, warring and violent opposition factions to take over their country? It will of course do the reverse. It will strengthen Assad. But it will concomitantly reinforce the conviction of extremists and their varied intelligence-service patrons that only by a “massacre” which can be blamed on Assad will the West be driven to overthrow Assad – a result the opposition is unable to achieve by its own efforts alone.

August 27th, 2013, 12:13 pm

 

Afram said:

Heck,the syrian government has seized the final opposition stronghold in the Kusir region by conventional weopons.

In my opinion that the defeat of”mercenaries”in the”Kusir”battle brought them to the brink of despair and ultimate failure.

therefore,I think the idea of dirty born in Saudi Arabia to the use of chemical weapons against civilians,and especially children,to move the Western public(public opinion in the colonial powers)and to give a sufficient argument for colonialism excuse to intervene militarily against Syria And all this in order to save the remnants of bands of mercenaries in Syria from disappearing completely.

it is inconceivable that Syria considers itself need to use UNconventional weopons in order to restore the balance between the warring parties.
The mercenaries on this blog are ready to belly dance to the music of Neocons subsonic cruise missiles,shame is not the word!

August 27th, 2013, 12:15 pm

 

Alan said:

105. ZOO
What is the difference between the nine black sheep and Ninety-one white sheep? In the end: all of them are the same herd at their masters !

August 27th, 2013, 12:16 pm

 

Alan said:

Saudis are not allowed to innovation! Israel is completely dominant chemical file and wary of it and his presence for others! The Saudis are to pay bills and to implement what they are asked

August 27th, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

zoo said:

Lawmakers to Obama: Syria strikes need our OK

By BRADLEY KLAPPER, Associated Press | August 27, 2013 | Updated: August 27, 2013 11:20am

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Lawmakers-to-Obama-Syria-strikes-need-our-OK-4763882.php?cmpid=usw

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s possible military intervention in Syria is already running into fierce opposition among some members of Congress, with a growing chorus of Republican and Democratic lawmakers demanding he seek congressional authorization for any strikes against the Assad regime.

In the House, Republican Rep. Scott Rigell of Virginia is asking colleagues to sign a letter to Obama that urges him to reconvene Congress and seek approval for any military action. And in the Senate, even some who support punishing the Syrian government for launching alleged chemical weapons attacks are joining the call for the president to first gain Congress’ approval.

“Engaging our military in Syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution,” Rigell’s letter argues.

A copy was obtained by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

To make their case, lawmakers are citing the 1973 War Powers Resolution. Passed after President Richard Nixon’s secret Vietnam War-era operations, the law reaffirmed Congress’ constitutional responsibility to declare war and put a 60-day time limit on the president’s ability to take unauthorized, emergency military action. Since then, commanders-in-chief of both parties have maintained that the resolution is unconstitutional and have regularly disregarded it.

The Obama administration appears likely to use force in the coming days in response to reports last week of a large-scale gas attack by Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces in the Damascus suburbs. At least 100 people died.

Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia, a former Democratic Party chairman, said the Assad regime must be held accountable for its indiscriminate violence and “despicable” chemical attacks. But he urged that proper procedures are followed.

“Absent an imminent threat to United States national security, the U.S. should not be engaged in military action without congressional approval,” Kaine said. Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, has made a similar argument.

Meanwhile, tea party favorite Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., has issued a series of tweets arguing that unauthorized strikes against Syria would be unconstitutional and illegal. He is putting pressure on leadership in his own party to call Congress back into session for a debate and vote before any such action occurs.

Lawmakers are scheduled to return from a five-week recess on Sept. 9.

It’s unclear what impact all the activity will yield. When the U.S. acted with allies against Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi two years ago, Obama maintained military operations for more than three months without congressional authorization. He said the U.S. wasn’t violating the War Powers Resolution because Americans were supporting a NATO-led operation and weren’t engaged in full-blown hostilities. Despite criticism from mainly Republican lawmakers, Obama suffered no serious repercussions.

August 27th, 2013, 12:41 pm

 

Alan said:

Obama – this is a lie, bluff, deceit and incompetence
Dmitry Rogozin

August 27th, 2013, 12:43 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria would never need to use chemical weapons against this mercenary filth.

August 27th, 2013, 12:45 pm

 

zoo said:

Prince Bandar and Zionist Lobby
Forcing Obama into Prolonged Syrian War
by FRANKLIN LAMB

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/27/forcing-obama-into-prolonged-syrian-war/

… His voice was one of the shrillest urging the United States to invade Iraq in 2003. In the 1980s, Prince Bandar was deeply involved in the Iran-Contra scandal in Nicaragua and it his intelligence agency that first alerted Western allies to the alleged use of sarin gas by the Syrian regime in February. Bandar has reportedly for months been focused exclusively on garnering international support, including arms and training, for Syrian rebel factions in pursuit of the eventual toppling of President Bashar al-Assad
….
The Bandar-Zionist project is still not irreversible. The Pentagon and especially Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, are very concerned and have threatened to resign in protest. For they realize that there is a grave risk that the Syrian response will lead to a clash with one of its neighbors, a US ally. Any scenario is possible from the moment that the first missile leaves American ships in the eastern Mediterranean.

Sources in Iran and Syria has advised this observers that they expect the US bombing to commence within 72 hours
…..
The timing of such an attack according to knowledgeable sources in Damascus and Washington would probably last no more than two days and involve sea-launched cruise missiles and long-range bombers.

Reportedly, striking military targets not directly related to Syria’s chemical weapons arsenal, hinges on three factors: completion of an intelligence report assessing Syrian government culpability for the chemical attack; continuing consultation with allies and Congress; and the Department of States International Law Bureau preparing the justification under international law.

One of the most common phases being uttered by AIPAC to congressional offices this week are the words, “Assad’s massive use of chemical weapons”.

Bandar has reportedly agreed that Israel can call the shots but that the air assault will be led by the US and involve roughly two dozen US allies including Turkey, the UK and France. The German weekly ‘Focus” reported on 8/26/13 that the IDF’s 8200 intelligence unlit bugged the Syrian leadership during the chemical weapons attack last week and that Israel ‘sold” the incriminating information to the White House.

August 27th, 2013, 12:54 pm

 

Tara said:

The New York Times has published the most thorough account we’ve seen of what happened in the 21 August [reported] chemical attack in east Damascus. The account is based on “Interviews with more than two dozen activists, rebels and doctors in areas near the attack sites, as well as an examination of more than 100 videos and photos of the aftermath.”The Times finds that its reporting backs up the White House belief that the attack was

the largest mass killing of the Syrian civil war, and most likely the deadliest chemical weapons attack since Saddam Hussein’s troops killed thousands of Kurds with sarin gas during the waning days of the Iran-Iraq war in 1988.
A preponderance of evidence that a chemical attack had taken place led US secretary of state John Kerry to declare Monday that anyone who challenged the veracity of the attack “needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass.” White House spokesman Jay Carney said “The visual evidence is overwhelming and compelling.”

Blasts in the Night, a Smell, and a Flood of Syrian Victims
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/blasts-in-the-night-a-smell-and-a-flood-of-syrian-victims.html?hp&_r=1&

…. In just a few hours, as the patients poured in, the atropine ran out.

To avoid contamination, medics stripped new arrivals down to their underwear and doused them with water before taking them inside.

New patients kept coming. One doctor from the town of Kafr Batna likened the scene to a horror movie, with cars bringing in entire families — fathers, mothers and children — all of them dead.

Those who heard the explosions and lived to tell about them were surprised at the sound, saying it was “like a water tank bursting” or “like opening a Pepsi bottle.”

Then came the smell, which burned eyes and throats, like onions or chlorine.

The effects were immediate and devastating.

At the time of the strikes, a few hours before morning prayers, most people were still asleep in their homes. The substance released by the barrage of rockets, which crashed into suburbs on two sides of Damascus, killed many people before they were even able to get out of their beds.

The deadliest of the attacks struck at the heart of a region known as Eastern Ghouta, an area northeast of Damascus whose towns have swelled into cities in recent decades with an influx of mostly poor Sunni Muslims from the countryside, the key constituency of the anti-Assad uprising.

Towns in the area have been held for more than a year by various factions of the rebellion. Unlike in northern and eastern Syria, extremist groups like the Nusra Front are not dominant. The area’s economic isolation made it fertile ground for the rebellion, and it has proved to be a perpetual threat to Mr. Assad’s control over the capital region.

In the months before Wednesday’s attack, according to interviews with rebels, the battle around Eastern Ghouta had reached a stalemate. While both sides frequently carried out guerrilla raids and sniper attacks, the front lines had moved little.

In the meantime, the government had sought to break the stalemate by severing the region’s links to the capital and starving rebel troops in Eastern Ghouta. Shipments of flour, fuel and electricity to the area were stopped, and government troops on the few remaining byways confiscated bread and siphoned fuel from gas tanks to ensure it did not reach the rebels.

Shortly after Wednesday’s rocket barrage began, rebel fighters spread the news of the assault by shouting, “Chemical attack!” into their walkie-talkies while loudspeakers affixed to minarets on the top of mosques blared warnings to residents to flee or to seek fresh air on their rooftops.

According to local doctors, some people took cover in basements, where the gas settled and suffocated them. Medics and photographers who had become accustomed to rushing to the site of attacks arrived too quickly, succumbing to the gases themselves.

The attacks appeared to fit into a pattern of continued escalation by government forces throughout the war, with large strikes on residential areas that appear to serve no immediate tactical purpose.

Such attacks seem to be aimed not at killing rebel fighters, but at terrifying the rebels’ civilian backers in strategic areas that Mr. Assad’s forces have been unable to subdue.

“They knew that people’s sons were on the front lines, so if you hit their families, they would go back and check on them and it would be easier to invade,” said an activist from Zamalka who gave only his first name, Firas. But he said that the tactic had not worked and had instead rallied rebel fighters to defend their positions.

“In the past, it took weeks to match eyewitness accounts with intelligence,” said a senior official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the internal deliberations. “This time, there was a consistency in all the information that was coming in for the first 24 to 48 hours.”

One Israeli official even suggested that whoever planned the rocket barrage might have miscalculated.

“It’s quite likely that there was kind of an operational mistake here,” one senior Israeli suggested. “I don’t think they wanted to kill so many people, especially so many children. Maybe they were trying to hit one place or to get one effect and they got a much greater effect than they thought.”

Russia’s public statements blaming the rebels hardened the views of White House officials. By the time the full National Security Council assembled, with Mr. Obama presiding, on Saturday morning, “the focus had really shifted to how we respond to this event, not whether we respond,” a senior official said.

August 27th, 2013, 1:12 pm

 

Afram said:

Obama’s 2ND Nobel Peace Prize!
http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/

August 27th, 2013, 1:23 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Wolf in Lamb’s Clothing NewZ

Zoo,

Thank you for that “eye-opening” article about Prince Bandar and the Zionist Lobby, by FRANKLIN LAMB.

I always knew there must be some sort of close relationship between the two countries. The next step, of course, is open-borders and tourism.;)

Anyway, here’s what I found out regarding Dr. Lamb. As a board member of “The Sabra and Shatila Foundation”, I am wondering if he will start a Kafr Batna Foundation or the hundreds just like it?

Dr. Franklin Lamb is Director of the Americans Concerned for Middle East Peace, Beirut-Washington DC, Board Member of The Sabra Shatila Foundation, and a volunteer with the Palestine Civil Rights Campaign, Lebanon. He is the author of “The Price We Pay: A Quarter-Century of Israel’s Use of American Weapons Against Civilians in Lebanon” and is doing research in Lebanon for his next book.

Lamb has been a Professor of International Law at Northwestern College of Law in Oregon. He earned his Law Degree at Boston University and his LLM, M.Phil, and PhD degrees at the London School of Economics.

As a Middle East expert and commentator, Dr. Lamb has appeared on Press TV, Al-Manar and several other media outlets. His articles and analyses have been published by Counter Punch, Veterans Today, Intifada Palestine, Electronic Intifada, Opinion Maker, Dissident Voice, Daily Star and Al Ahram.

http://mwcnews.net/profile/userprofile/fplamb111.html

August 27th, 2013, 1:26 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Assad killing of Syrians is exactly dependant on the international response to his crimes, if the response is weak he will take it as a green light to kill more Syrian, to deter him the bombing has to be strong,and appaling to him, so he will quit resorting to chemical weapons.
Unfortunately US likes piece at a time,

August 27th, 2013, 1:28 pm

 

apple_mini said:

This is an interesting article:

Weapons Assad Uses Shouldn’t Affect U.S. Policy

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/08/26/is-an-attack-on-syria-justified/type-of-weapons-assad-uses-shouldnt-affect-us-policy

There is intelligence in some academic world.

There is no intelligence in political leaders. And that is why we have a mess everywhere in this world, not only limited to Syria and the conflict.

Intelligent academic figures have never been able to get a chance to lead the world. Now that is a truly human tragedy.

August 27th, 2013, 1:31 pm

 

Alan said:

The United States will pay the high price of American aggression on Syria! And will not be able to stop the Syrians revenge for their dignity! We do not believe their stories! it is the devil novels in paradise!!!!

August 27th, 2013, 1:34 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The common defence pact between Assad and persia requires persia must do something, if they don’t the pact is useless

August 27th, 2013, 1:38 pm

 
 

Tara said:

I just hope that the American strike will be a case ofتمخض الجبل فولد فأراً

A strike that doesn’t disintegrate the regime will only embolden it to commit further crimes.  It is pointless to hit the regime without disintegrating it.  The regime is capable to absorb several strikes and will remain unscathed as in its eyes, the life value of generic Syrians is a minus one and of his most loyal supporters is zero.  

Such punishing but non-lethal strikes, once survived by the regime, would worsen Assad’s detachment from reality and would make him think he is invincible.  The families of the inner clique has already fled.  Short than lethal strikes that will result in complete disintegration of the regime, there would be no amount of inflicted damages that would convince the regime that Assad did not emerge victorious.  Survival of the regime is its definition of victory, no matter of how much was the price.  This is an Arab mentality.  We saw it many many times during arab-Israeli wars.  Arabs lose lands and declare victory.  Whole Beirut got destroyed and all of us  called it victory.  Victory has only one meaning in Arab dictionary and that is the survival of the head of the regime.

The US needs to be aware of this mentality.  Nothing will humiliate Assad and will bring him to the negotiation table to relinquish power.  Destroying half of his military capability is simply not going to make the cut for him or for his supporters.  If the goal is a political transition in Geneva, there is no possible way other than to take Assad down.                

August 27th, 2013, 1:40 pm

 

Alan said:

U.N. Charter:

“All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.”)

August 27th, 2013, 1:50 pm

 

Alan said:

Syria crisis: A short sharp series of air strikes is the West’s likely response
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-crisis-a-short-sharp-series-of-air-strikes-is-the-wests-likely-response-8785051.html

According to Anonymous the US Govt is openly creating terrorism along side Nato and Israel to demonize the Syrian Arien Republic.
The truth is
the United States government, along with its western allies, is facilitating this war by supplying terrorist cells with weapons to destabilize the Syrian government, then using the term “terrorism” as justification in an attempt to invade Syria’s territory; all of this so as to implement policies of their own and rape the country of its resources.

Currently, terror gangs supported by the “Central Intelligence Agency” (CIA) and other western powers have been supplied with Biological chemicals called Sarin gas — aka GB nerve gas — considered a weapon of mass destruction.

Sarin or GB is a colorless, odorless liquid, used as a chemical weapon owing to its extreme potency as a nerve agent. It has been classified as a deadly weapon of mass destruction by the United Nations according to Resolution 687. Production and stockpiling of Sarin was outlawed by the Chemical Weapons Convention — 1993.

The Biological chemicals came from a Turkish chemical manufacturer named “Tekkim Laboratories”. A video that depicts what appears to be terrorist rebels shows the biological chemicals and demonstrates its uses against two rabbits, ultimately exterminating them within less then a minute.

The man in the video says: “You saw what happened. This will be your fate, you infidel Alawites, I swear by Allah to make you die like these rabbits, only a minute after you inhale the gas.”

Sibel Deniz Edmonds, founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition said:

“We started reporting on the preparation by US and NATO and their Turkish partners in southern Turkey starting in May 2011. You are looking at sixteen or seventeen months ago, the United States — with their base in Turkey — started preparations for war against Syria.”

President Obama has stated, “Today I want to make it absolutely clear to Assad and those under his command — the world is watching. The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. If you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable.”

Obama and his administration has reached a new low in United states history. It is our duty as Anonymous to make sure that these monsters in power are exposed for who and what they really are. Anonymous must stand up for all those who fall victim to these western powers and its United States terrorist program.

May God protect Syria. its army. its leadership. and people.

– See more at: http://xrepublic.tv/node/5095#sthash.kmQITZMj.dpuf

August 27th, 2013, 2:00 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Obama is weekend worrier

August 27th, 2013, 2:15 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Military action should have been taken in April 2011. US just wants Assad to stay but giving life to rebels.

August 27th, 2013, 2:20 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Assad is begging,he sent Obama messages that he won’t use CW again

August 27th, 2013, 2:26 pm

 

Alan said:

Syria Intervention: Anticipating Russia’s Response
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/syria-intervention-anticipating-russias-response-8964
Secretly, however, Moscow may be quite prepared to let the United States find itself embroiled into yet another Middle Eastern crisis and, depending on how any strike on Syria would be handled, one which in turn might tie the United States down for the long term with coping not only with Syria but with Iran as well. A renewed U.S. focus on the Middle East ends any possibility that Washington would be able to spare the time, attention or resources to focusing on Russia’s attempts at reintegrating the former Soviet space under Moscow’s regional leadership. (It goes without saying that this would also effectively end any “pivot to Asia” for the foreseeable future.) Given recent U.S. statements that, in the absence of any UN resolution, the United States would not go in alone but would seek commitments from allies, this could put renewed pressure on the cohesiveness of a NATO alliance still under considerable stress in dealing with the Afghan mission. For the last decade, the mantra of the U.S. foreign-policy establishment vis-a-vis Russia has been “selective cooperation”—the United States would pursue cooperation with Moscow in those areas where it would most benefit U.S. interests but would retain the freedom to go against Russian preferences when necessary………

Go ahead Cowboys !!!

August 27th, 2013, 2:27 pm

 
 

Alan said:

Saudis Threaten Russia With Olympic Terrorist Attacks Unless It Abandons Syria Support
http://www.infowars.com/saudis-threaten-russia-with-olympic-terrorist-attacks-unless-it-abandons-syria-support/

August 27th, 2013, 2:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

important news: the Alawi officers in Msaifra are running away, the base is empty of half the officers, this is a chance for FSA to enter and get some of the CW, it is chaos now

August 27th, 2013, 2:49 pm

 
 

Akbar Palace said:

132: LOL

August 27th, 2013, 3:13 pm

 

zoo said:

Really? What? freaking out now? The puppet opposition will whine again and beg for weapons. Then it is obvious that the punitive strikes will trigger the most violent non-chemical retaliation the rebels have ever seen.

White House: US will not seek ‘regime change’ in Syria

By SUSAN CRABTREE | AUGUST 27, 2013 AT 2:50 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2534775
White House spokesman Jay Carney made it clear Tuesday that President Obama will not try to pursue “regime change” when he directs a U.S. response to Syrian leader Bashar Assad’s reported use of chemical weapons against his own citizens last week.

Repeatedly asked during his daily press briefing what the goal of a U.S. response, military or otherwise, would be, Carney said the U.S. was not trying to topple Assad from power or change the dynamics of the Syrian civil war, even though the U.S. has recently increased its support for the Syrian opposition and would like to see Assad ousted.

“The options we are considering are not about regime change,” Carney said, stressing that a U.S. response would serve to punish Assad for violating “an international norm” prohibiting the use of chemical weapons.

August 27th, 2013, 3:28 pm

 

zoo said:

Ambiguity at best: Egypt does not blame directly Bashar al Assad government for the chemical attack and condemns eventual US attack on Syria

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/27/200530/arab-leaders-blame-syria-for-using.html#.Uhz-7qznZCQ

Without directly blaming the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad, Arab League Secretary General Nabil el Araby said that what happened was a “flagrant violation of international humanitarian law.”

The league also said the United Nations Security Council should put aside its differences and pass the “necessary resolutions against the perpetrators of this crime.”

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/27/200530/arab-leaders-blame-syria-for-using.html#.Uhz-7qznZCQ#storylink=cpy

While traveling in Ramallah, Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy condemned a possible attack on Syria and said there should be a political solution instead. Fahmy did not outline what such a solution should look like.

At one time, Egypt could have brokered such a move, but the nation has faced unprecedented strife in the last two months that has included the military ouster of its first democratically elected president and the deaths of more than 1,100 people in clashes over just four days.

That the Arab world cannot address its own problems frustrated some in Cairo, who said they fear a U.S. strike would lead to more instability in this already fragile part of the world.

“We are talking about Syria now, after a million people have suffered?” asked taxi driver Mohammed Moussa, 61. “Bombing is not the solution. It will only lead to more destruction.”

He also said, “The Arab League is supposed to address the problems of the Arab world. But they are weak. They do nothing.”

Still others questioned why Assad would deploy such weapons, knowing that Obama had called it a “red line” for the United States. But with such turmoil engulfing their own country in recent days, many Egyptians conceded they did not know what to believe had happened in Syria.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/27/200530/arab-leaders-blame-syria-for-using.html#.Uhz-7qznZCQ#storylink=cpy

August 27th, 2013, 3:37 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Today in a well-known district in old town of Damascus, a Sunni officer was showing a recent army operation on his smartphone.

He didn’t seem to be bothered by this media frenzy about the imminent US strikes. He is with 4th division.

4th division is considered elite army for reasons not only their training and equipment but also their strong mind and loyalty. Most of the soldiers are from Aleppo and Hama. Most of them are Sunni. 4th division does have disproportionate Alawite officers. 4TH division is stationed in Damascus.

The regime will not deploy them anywhere else for obvious reason.

Hope they have already prepared for the upcoming US strike. Ride out this wave and make good use of it.

August 27th, 2013, 3:38 pm

 

revenire said:

“133. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
Assad is begging,he sent Obama messages that he won’t use CW again”

LOL no matter how bad the war gets we can always count on Majed to make us laugh.

Bravo brother!

August 27th, 2013, 3:38 pm

 
 

William Scott Scherk said:

Some analysis of just what to expect from a US/Western attack on Syria.

From the BBC

So what are the military options?

The US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen Martin Dempsey, gave his most detailed view in a letter to Senator Carl Levin in mid-July. [full text]

This is the most authoritative assessment of the military options as seen by the Pentagon that is available in an unclassified form.

Let’s look at each of these, though not necessarily in the order that Gen Dempsey discussed them. Bear in mind that these are not mutually exclusive; combinations of different options could well be employed.

1. Limited stand-off strikes

Some might call these punitive strikes.

The aim would be to get President Assad’s attention and to persuade him not to resort to chemical weapons in the future. Targets could include military sites linked closely to the regime – the headquarters or barracks of elite units, for example.

Missile production facilities could be hit. Caution would have to be exercised if striking chemical weapons production facilities since leakage of toxic chemicals could lead to significant local damage.

Air defence sites and command centres might also be hit as a warning of Western capabilities should there need to be recourse to military action again in the future.

[…]

The most likely scenario, if force is to be used, is number (1) above – a short, sharp punitive strike to send a message to the Syrian regime. But any decision to act raises all sorts of questions:

What degree of further evidence – if any – is required from the UN weapons inspectors before military action is unleashed?
What about the legality of such action in terms of international law – especially since Russia and China seem resolutely opposed to backing any idea of military action at the UN Security Council?

But perhaps the most important question of all if military action goes ahead – what next? How is this action going to bring Syria any closer to peace? What new policies or combination of policies can do this? In what sense will the dynamics of the Syrian crisis be any different after a US and allied strike than it was before? Could Western military action actually make things in Syria much, much worse?

Option one from Dempsey’s letter:

Conduct Limited Stand-off Strikes. This option uses lethal force to strike targets that enable the regime to conduct military operations, proliferate advanced weapons, and defend itself. Potential targets include high-value regime air defense, air, ground, missile, and naval forces as well as the supporting military facilities and command nodes. Stand-off air and missile systems could be used to strike hundreds of targets at a tempo of our choosing. Force requirements would include hundreds of aircraft, ships, submarines, and other enablers. Depending on duration, the costs would be in the billions. Over time, the impact would be the significant degradation of regime capabilities and an increase in regime desertions. There is a risk that the regime could withstand limited strikes by dispersing its assets. Retaliatory attacks are also possible, and there is a probability for collateral damage impacting civilians and foreigners inside the country.

August 27th, 2013, 3:52 pm

 

revenire said:

Come on weakling Obama – attack to save your cannibals! Murder Syrian civilians you war criminal! They will award you another Nobel Prize!

Syrian Perspective has learned that President Assad has ordered Syrian Forces to “not hesitate in defending the homeland”. Syrian Perspective has also learned that U.S. Tomahawk missiles will be rendered useless by the nature of Syrian Army deployments. Russia is closely coordinating with Syria and Iran to insure the success of Russian military equipment. This could be Moscow’s greatest opportunity to demonstrate the decrepitude of NATO’s arsenals and the superiority of its own missile technology.

SyrPer is in constant contact with its sources in Latakia, Tartous and Damascus. Our source in Tartous tells us that “Russian ships have been docking here and Latakia for days and delivering equipment to the SAA. It’s non-stop!”

HIZBOLLAH ON FULL ALERT; SYRIAN ARMY ON HIGHEST LEVEL OF PREPARATION;

In the meantime, the rout of the terrorist ____* continues unabated in Damascus. The unprecedented annihilation of the rodent army at Al-Ghazlaaniyya on August 2 and 3rd, 2013, reported by SyrPer, was the last straw. They simply cannot recover and now require assistance from NATO and its ___* allies to keep their aggression on life support.

If you have been watching events in Damascus since the rout at Al-Ghazlaaniyya, you know that the seams that bind the skin of the ___* army are beginning to burst. There can be no recovery unless the vermin in NATO and Saudi Arabia start to intervene. But the intervention comes at great cost. With our First Army Corps completely unengaged and ready for war with Obama, and the battle being fought in the Ghouta now being prosecuted expertly by the Republican Guard and all the militia and NDF, the U.S. is in for a jaw-jarring experience.

*censored to spare the sensitive emotions of terrorist supporters

August 27th, 2013, 3:58 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Apple Mini
Say good by to the 4th division
الله يرحمن ما بتجوز عليهم الا الرحمه

August 27th, 2013, 3:58 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir is back to ratvenir

August 27th, 2013, 4:03 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Real time report:

Loud and intense outgoing shelling. Now that’s the spirit when facing the wicked west.

Time for political solution is not ripe yet. So just keep doing what SAA has to do.

I am sure the loud shelling and big booming sound will deafen some barking wild dogs.

August 27th, 2013, 4:08 pm

 

Syrialover said:

MAJEDKHALDOUN #148.

Ratvenir. I like it. Image of rat with a fake veneer.

August 27th, 2013, 4:10 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, the US and its allies are not relying on so-called UN inspectors to prove to them whether CW’s were used or who used them. They already know even before it happened based on proper intelligence sources of indisputable credibility.

This is where the irony lies. The initial reaction by the now newly-forming coalition, except for few particularly Turkey and the Arab members who made forceful comments right from the outset, when the story broke out in the media was that of feigning ignorance. It is only when the extent of the use of such weapons was revealed by the media that the rest of the coalition felt compelled to react.

However, let it be abundantly clear for future reference that the so-called coalition would be doing a great disservice first to itself and secondly to the victims as well as to the Syrian people at large if it opts to trim the snake’s tail rather than to crush the head that is fully stockpiled with the Chemical venom. The snake would regrow its tail, sneak with its head out of the sand and spew out further venom with even greater lethality when the dust of the coalition charade settles.

August 27th, 2013, 4:11 pm

 

revenire said:

Everyone knows this “coalition” is but the same players who have armed the cannibals all along. They’re international war criminals.

August 27th, 2013, 4:22 pm

 

revenire said:

The SAA is blowing the enemy to pieces. Better hurry Obama.

August 27th, 2013, 4:23 pm

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up the SAA will kill every terrorist in Syria. Obama’s a weak fool who has no idea what he is doing.

BRING IT ON!

August 27th, 2013, 4:24 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

We sense real panic on the regime side particularly after hearing reports of families of regime officials fleeing the country.

Trouble is coming the regimes way. Why does it feel for real now?
What’s changed? It’s ‘fear’. There is real fear amongst the regime side. This is the worst phase, the period between knowing an attack is coming and it’s eventual inevitable arrival.

Let the regime feel how it made the syrian people feel. What it put them through. What it made the children go through with unmentionable treatment. The terror we felt when in the early months the regime massed troops and tanks around protesting towns and cities.

Let it feel how we felt.

So what’s changed? Fear is mounting and will soon be palpable. They will run for it. Everyone looking to save themselves. It’s gonna unravel before our eyes.

It’s fear. The fear has come.

Shaykh Nazim’s (Cyprus) prediction from August 2011 (posted several times previously on SC):

When the time comes, finish all of Sham will surrender. Allah Almighty will put fear in the hearts of Ba’thiyyin (ruling Alawis). When that fear is put in their hearts, none of them can stay in there anymore.

How to say? Even if you look for them to give them (emergency) medical treatment you still won’t be able to find even one of them. They will be gone…They will run so fast that their heels will hit their bottoms. They will not run at day time, but at night time. They won’t wait the day time. Just put some fear in their hearts, no guns nor cannons needed then.

August 27th, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A rapid collapse is coming…I hope so..

August 27th, 2013, 4:34 pm

 

Syrialover said:

RATVENEER is anxiously shifting around on his sofa. Trying to strike a warlike posture, but like his worried buddies in Damascus can’t find one that doesn’t look feeble and ridiculous.

Easier to just take the cowardly position of Walid Moallam and his Foreign Ministry team, persistently denying that the regime used CW.

As I said, they might hope to use this to support a “I knew nothing your Honor” tactic when they are before the war crimes court.

Hahahah.

August 27th, 2013, 4:39 pm

 

ghufran said:

U.S. stocks end sharply lower on concerns over military action in Syria. Oil jumps 3%. Dow falls 171 points and the $ is up 55 lira in 24 hours.
sooner or later this war and other wars will be over and most people may be able to find excuses for they did or did not do except two types of people:
criminals who personally and knowingly killed children or ordered children killed, and traitors who conspired against their own country in the name of fighting the regime or avenging the death of other Syrians.
there is no way to beautify this pig this time, the mask has fallen off and the ugly face is showing.
this euphoria triggered by threats of NATO attack will be short lived, then I will see how many of you will be back wondering what went wrong !!

August 27th, 2013, 4:40 pm

 

revenire said:

They’re already crying the attack wasn’t enough.

August 27th, 2013, 4:47 pm

 

Syrialover said:

America has said it is not aiming for regime change. Clever. The unbearable pressure is now on Assad’s allies in Moscow and Teheran to try to preserve their interests and save face through removing Assad.

Let’s see if this happens before the west pushes the button. Then the basic structures can then remain intact, probably minus 500 on a list drawn up by the Opposition. No room for Islamists to join in the party then, and all done by Syrians.

That has to be the outcome everyone but the regime inner circle would prefer.

But if Bashar won’t budge, let the powerful precision bombs target his key forces and bases with the slogan: “Syria or we burn Assad”

August 27th, 2013, 4:58 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Yes, I like my slogan for what’s planned: “Syria or we burn Assad”.

But the other one to put on the billboards is “Assad is NOT Syria”.

August 27th, 2013, 5:04 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

AFRAM @ 135

I thought you wanted to remain anonymous,no?
Fine, but Which one is you?

August 27th, 2013, 5:12 pm

 

revenire said:

“America” has no idea what it is doing. It has bet on a losing horse and is desperate to try to save it. Too late.

Assad isn’t going anywhere.

Let’s get this going.

August 27th, 2013, 5:18 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#163 REVENIRE has no idea what America is doing.

He is too busy desperately trying to keep the illusion that his rubbish horse Bashar is still in the race.

He’s right that Assad isn’t going anywhere. He’s got nowhere to go and no future.

August 27th, 2013, 5:26 pm

 

Syrialover said:

“Damascus in panic at prospect of US attack”

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/damascus-in-panic-at-prospect-of-us-attack

COMMENT: Let’s see if LITTLE_APPLE will keep up the pretense. A pretense 1. that he is in Damascus, when he’s in an armchair a long distance away or 2. although he actually is in Damascus there is nothing to suggest any problems in his elite haven – he’s in a nice shop, and the army officer is happily showing videos on his phone to people in the street.

ALI we can’t worry about. He’s in martyr mode. Rushing around trying to find a place to stay near a target most likely to be hit.

August 27th, 2013, 5:40 pm

 
 

Uzair8 said:

From the National article SL posted in #165.

Malek’s sister, Mayada, said she had withdrawn all her money from the bank.

That’s another factor overlooked. Many Syrians, and of course the regime officials, will be desperately trying to get their money out of Syria. By the time the attack arrives the country will already be empty (light) of money.

The economy is gonna be badly hit, even if by thursday the west changes it’s mind. (?).

August 27th, 2013, 6:03 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

A strike, if it takes place, is more likely than not to decimate a large number of assad hyenas in some elite slipper forces garrisons . It is not likely to snuff out dog-poop chemical athad itself. A subsequent euphoria of victory is more than likely, where victory will be declared due to the sole fact that dog-poop chemical athad will remain alive and stinky.

What will again escape those without dignity is how cheap they all are and how cheap are the lives of the cannon fodders, toilet paper, slipper soldiers to them.

The low-lifers shabbee7a and security thugs, those who form the bulk of dog-poop chemical athad murder machine will not be able to sneak their families to trendy neighborhoods in Tehran, Duabi, Paris, or London, or a one of the nice south american cities.

people like zouzou and the troll will be among those celebrating the temporary survival of the cowardly assad while cannon fodders die like rats. Hardly-a-massacre will probably wait this one out, somewhere in Amman or Beirut.

Let it be remembered, the cowardly chemical assad never showed up in a single funeral of its hyenas. Neither did any member of its mafia clan or the clans whose names were listed in Heads Up post earlier.

Ghufran will probably be the only one shedding tears for some assad hyenas, pretty much like he did recently on behalf of the most cowardly criminal thug to ever occupy the mayor’s palace of Hama.

August 27th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

Ali said:

If this coming war will actually topple the regime and oust al-ASSAD then I might understand how some traitors and terrorist allies are chanting the bombarding of their “presumably” home country. But in reality, we all know that this coming war won’t bring anything new but more innocent victims (Sunni victims) because your smart bombs and rockets don’t actually check the identity of the neighborhoods before they tear them into bits and pieces.

This coming war will only bring more death, victims and support to al-ASSAD.

let it be and BRING IT ON.

August 27th, 2013, 6:10 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
remember ceausescu , Saddam,Qaddafi,Assad,

Why feltman in Persia?

August 27th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Bring it on?
where? to the cowardly regime propagandists neighborhoods in suburbia USA?

August 27th, 2013, 6:18 pm

 

Ali said:

Syrian Jardoon,

It’s not a “strike” it’s an INVASION on your home country if that means anything to you.

You do know for fact that mainly Sunnis will die in this coming up war, because most of the densely populated areas are dominated by Sunnis, and as you highlighted above powerful and official Alawis will be enjoying some coffee in Lebanon, Dubai or somewhere else in Western countries while poor Alawi are living in villages and farms where the density of population is so low.

Keep chanting for the war and I’ll surely remind you after a year or so when al-ASSAD is still around but unfortunately with no Damascus and huge loss in Sunnis.

A new era of your screwed up “revolution” let’s hire Uncle Sam to kill more Sunnis.

August 27th, 2013, 6:21 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI #169

That’s it, keep revved. Have you found a suitable place yet to wait to be hit? You could check the targets shown on defense analyst internet sites.

Warning: You’re setting yourself up for a serious emotional meltdown if the first scenario I outlined in #160 plays out.

August 27th, 2013, 6:21 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

UZAIR
Big sharks already smuggled most of their monies out, what accounts do you think excrement like athma used to buy her sadistic shoes.

August 27th, 2013, 6:22 pm

 

Ali said:

Dr.Death,

“Why feltman in Persia?”

So he get his a$s bombarded

If you jealous just jump in your car to meet your neighbor Rev, I’m sure he’ll sort you out.

August 27th, 2013, 6:25 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, well informed sources revealed that a plane carrying B. Al-Assad will land (or may have already landed) in Tehran who is expected to sojourn in the Iranian capital until or when the dark clouds clear the Syrian horizons. The sources made it abundantly clear that the nature of the visit is strictly recreational, has no ulterior political motives and is of temporary duration.

It is not clear, however, if Asma and kids were on the same plane, or whether any divorce proceedings are taking place further complicating the clouded skies surrounding the 48th birthday of Al-Assad coming up shortly on September 11.

August 27th, 2013, 6:25 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#167. UZAIR8

Yes the strikes will happen if minds are not changed. But it’s not simply down to whether the west changes its mind – its whether Putin and the Mullahs and change their minds and dump Assad as too much trouble.

August 27th, 2013, 6:27 pm

 

ghufran said:

Syria has its own Jalabi now, this is the guy who wants to be president !!
(Reuters)
Ahmad Jarba, president of the rebel Syrian National Coalition, met envoys from 11 countries at an Istanbul hotel, including the U.S. ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford. The rebel leaders proposed targets for cruise missiles and bombing.

The way the Syrian war ends, near or far, will determine whether the Levant will become a whore house for the Ottomans and the GCC or not,forget about Assad, what is being cooked for Syria, Lebanon and Palestine is much bigger than all of us, there is no shortage of traitors and pimps but this is not a done deal yet.

August 27th, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

If the sense of panic and fear within the regime continues on this trajectory, then the international community may not even have to attack but only ensure the regime expects one and then watch it crumble and collapse before our eyes.

Cowards and bullies. That’s all they are.

August 27th, 2013, 6:29 pm

 

Ali said:

173. Syrialover

I told you these scenarios only in your wet dreams or when you have your door closed.

al-ASSAD loyalists don’t hide, we’re here waiting for your rockets and bombs with bare chests and hands, we don’t give a sh!t about this staged invasion because God is to our side, al-ASSAD is our God.

Just wait for al-ASSAD to put on his military uniform and that point of time you better run to your basement and hide for good even if you were in Alaska.

August 27th, 2013, 6:29 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Asma Assad seek a divorce? No way. Like others she’d simply suicide – with two bullets to the head.

August 27th, 2013, 6:32 pm

 

Ali said:

176. Heads-up

You’re fr!ken pathetic piece of sh!t, son of liar

wo 7aq ilimam badi qawsak wo 3alqak min bydatak ya manyak

August 27th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#180 ALI

So you are confirming the scenario I gave for you. Good.

Have you made your words from the grave martyr video yet?

August 27th, 2013, 6:35 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Don’t count out a coup.

The regime is terrified. Where is Assad? Why isn’t he addressing the people? Shouldn’t he be making strong and defiant statements about teaching the aggressors a lesson?

Btw why isn’t he donning his military uniform as someone on here warned us to wish against? Now’s the time to put on the uniform if ever there was one. Or is Asma refusing to iron it?

Anyway. Will the military try to prevent the intervention by overthrowing Assad?

August 27th, 2013, 6:36 pm

 

revenire said:

Per the Wall St Journal not a single Arab nation backs attack on Syria

Arab Allies Withhold Public Support for U.S. Strike on Syria
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324906304579038910953494966.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

The U.S. is moving toward possible military strikes against Syria without the public support of any major Arab ally, reflecting broad unease in the region about another Western military intervention.

Syria vowed to defend itself against any foreign attack, while the Arab League said that Damascus had used chemical weapons against its population. Meg Coker reports. Photo: AP.

During his Tuesday briefing, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney reiterated the President’s confidence that the Syrian government used chemical weapons on August 21. He also said that options for a response do not include regime change.

The lack of public endorsement from Arab governments, even from Saudi Arabia and other countries that have helped arm, train and fund rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leaves the West with little political cover regionally should any Western-led attack go badly.

August 27th, 2013, 6:37 pm

 

Ali said:

181. Syrialover said:

“Asma Assad seek a divorce?”

Are you talking about your wife Asma? or your sister who I’m going out with?

August 27th, 2013, 6:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Bring it on cowards. The cannibal army can’t win.

August 27th, 2013, 6:39 pm

 

Ali said:

184. Uzair8

You Pakistani kid, go back to your country and join your Taliban

How was your trip on the boat? where did you sail from?

August 27th, 2013, 6:39 pm

 

revenire said:

The National Defense Force was set up by the Syrian regime about nine months ago with the help of allies Iran and the Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah, according to Syrian security officials. Unlike the ad hoc pro-regime militia known as the Shabiha that was mobilized at the start of the war, members of the defense force are licensed, armed and paid by the state.

The ranks of the force approach 100,000 members, and the organization is still growing, the security officials said. Rebels now see the force as a formidable adversary. On Aug. 1 rebels fired rockets at an unfinished sports auditorium in Homs city used by the defense force as an ammunition depot, causing massive secondary explosions that killed and wounded scores in a mostly Alawite neighborhood.

Rebel fighters in Homs say the involvement of the defense force gives a big boost to the regime because—unlike the average Syrian soldier—its members are driven by sectarian zeal. “They storm in ready to kill or be killed,” says one rebel.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323997004578639903412487708.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

August 27th, 2013, 6:40 pm

 

Ali said:

Bring it on indeed you pathetic traitors.

We have 24/7 coverage to this forum, we won’t allow you to spread sh!t and rumors.

دام عزك يا اسد

August 27th, 2013, 6:41 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Dear mouthpieces of the death squad,

This site is not really a battleground to win your propaganda war. Attacking me or anyone who is not on your side does nothing for your “revolution”. Insulting other people only makes yourselves look hysterical and immature, even though I know for sure most of you people care less or lack of those mental structure.

I suggest you “people” to do other more meaningful stuff, for instance, getting a list of widows at Zaatari camp and see if you can help them.

They are extremely vulnerable to those vile sex predators. Since Islmaic militants occupy the camp, Syrian government is not able to provide assistance to her citizens.

Due to the unusual and understandable intense shelling from SAA, I am having a little trouble to go to sleep.

No complaint here at all. But the potential results urge me to provide a constructive advice.

Don’t worry. People here in Damascus show absolutely no panic or excitement. We just need to get through this week and then we will have a fresh but grinding Monday.

Next time, I will talk about young Damascenes who frequent coffee shops and cafes. Very different from those in Brooklyn.

Darn those hipsters!

A friend in Amman feels heartbroken today after he found out the opposition people were celebrating upcoming military strike against Syria. He is never a fan of the regime. But like most Syrians, he is well aware of the catastrophe of the alternative.

A true Syrian will never cheer a foreign attack on Syrian soil with very likely casualties of Syrians.

It is almost like celebration of 911 in US especially by US citizens, no matter how much they hate Bush and Cheney.

For technical reasons, I would suggest the opposition to celebrate their “helpers” attack behind doors. That way, at least the opposition will not make more Syrians hate them.

Let’s hope Syria will find peace soon. Big Peace Sign!

August 27th, 2013, 6:42 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair is in the Taliban? LOL

August 27th, 2013, 6:43 pm

 

Ali said:

“its members are driven by sectarian zeal. “They storm in ready to kill or be killed,” says one rebel.”

This is a melody to my ears

دام عزك يا اسد

August 27th, 2013, 6:43 pm

 

revenire said:

I’ve been told Air Force Intelligence watches this site very closely. Lists have been made.

Just a “heads up”…

🙂

August 27th, 2013, 6:45 pm

 

Afram said:

@162 hammie.
Neither one my tiny pet,I,m not a Sunni muslim.

August 27th, 2013, 6:47 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#168 SYRIAN HAMSTER, exactly.

That’s right. All ordinary Syrians are just expendable junk to the Assad regime. Including – in some cases even specially – those who have been serving it.

August 27th, 2013, 6:49 pm

 

Ali said:

191. apple_mini said:

May God protect you and all real Damascenes (surely not those traitors who’re celebrating the invasion against their country)

الله يحميك

August 27th, 2013, 6:50 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Nope.

I’m a, dare I say, by now, a refined counter propagandist. I know exactly what buttons to press. I learnt from the best…

Syrian Commando.

Hahaha.

August 27th, 2013, 6:51 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Correction: A friend of mine in Amman found out the opposition were celebrating upcoming strikes by the west at Turkish Embassy in Amman.

August 27th, 2013, 6:55 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Why is Ali (182) so upset with me?

And why is he butchering the Arabic language with the Latin script?

He seems to be so in hurry to vent steam so as to write in such a funny and un-orthodox way.

OK, How about this?

Who is ilimeee…em ya Ali?

Kameeee..n bidak tqqqqqqqawwis ya…?

Kameee…n am titaaawal a sidak w tej raseeeek (abi) ya qqqalil aladeeeeee…b?

August 27th, 2013, 6:56 pm

 

revenire said:

Sharmine Narwani ‏@snarwani 2m
List of American and Arab thugs urging Obama to attack #Syria – let’s remember these names: http://networkedblogs.com/OvFNp via @AngryArabNews

August 27th, 2013, 6:56 pm

 

Ali said:

198. Uzair8

You do have some deep issues with Syrian Commando, was he the one who took your virginity?

Go to Taliban man, at least you can speak their language.

August 27th, 2013, 7:00 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

AFRAM
Your hateful sectarian statement is sufficient. It proves that you haven’t yet evolved to either stage on the evolution scale.

August 27th, 2013, 7:00 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Little Apple #191, news you can use:

Assad is NOT Syria.

Assad is going to receive a targeted smack in the face. Not Syria.

August 27th, 2013, 7:01 pm

 

Ali said:

ASSAD is Syria and there’s no Syria without al-ASSAD

keep that in mind your traitors.

August 27th, 2013, 7:03 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Ali

I think I know who else (on SC) you might be.

August 27th, 2013, 7:05 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

A mind is too precious to keep trash in.

August 27th, 2013, 7:06 pm

 

Ali said:

207. SYRIAN Jardoon

You have no mind so nothing to worry about

August 27th, 2013, 7:07 pm

 

Ali said:

206. Uzair8 said:

“I think I know who else (on SC) you might be”

Well done, now pack you bags and off to Pakistan to join Taliban

August 27th, 2013, 7:08 pm

 

Ali said:

Ok I’m done with my shift for the day.

August 27th, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Now we know why Ali is never worried.

August 27th, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

Tara said:

A quick summary of the day.

http://news.yahoo.com/pressure-grows-military-action-against-syria-173132187.html

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — A military strike against Syria from the United States and its allies seemed closer to reality Tuesday as the U.S. defense chief said weapons are in position to attack. Syria vowed to use all possible measures to repel any such strike.

The prospect of a dramatic U.S.-led intervention into Syria’s chaotic civil war stems from the Western assertion — still not endorsed by U.N. inspectors — that President Bashar Assad’s government was responsible for an alleged chemical attack on civilians outside the capital of Damascus last week.

Syria’s foreign minister said his country would defend itself using “all means available,” while in Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron recalled Parliament to hold an emergency vote Thursday on his country’s response to the alleged chemical assault. Cameron said the goal of any attack on Syria, if launched, would be to prevent the further use of chemical weapons.

French President Francois Hollande added his voice to the growing clamor for action, saying France is “ready to punish those who took the heinous decision to gas innocents.”

The Arab League also threw its weight behind calls for punitive action, blaming the Syrian government for the toxic attack that activists say killed hundreds of people and calling for the perpetrators to be brought to justice. The announcement by the 22-member body, which is dominated by Gulf powerhouses Saudi Arabia and Qatar, provides indirect Arab cover for any potential military attack by Western powers.


U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Tuesday that U.S. forces were now ready to act on any such presidential directive.

Hagel said the U.S. Navy had four destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean Sea positioned within range of targets inside Syria. U.S. warplanes were also in the region, he told BBC television during a visit to the southeast Asian nation of Brunei.

August 27th, 2013, 7:20 pm

 

Tara said:

Ali,

Your hysteria is quite entertaining.  I still miss Ameera.  Can you post under her name too?  I really miss her and miss.حديث نسوان with her.  Please bring her back.  I’ll politely ask MK to avoid her so they don’t get on each others’ nerves.   

August 27th, 2013, 7:26 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Ali said:

‘Ok I’m done with my shift for the day.’

Done? I don’t think so. Let’s see if your alter ego posts in a couple of minutes.

August 27th, 2013, 7:30 pm

 

Afram said:

Wass up with your angry rants,Ur Hamster wheel is broken?

August 27th, 2013, 7:36 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, well informed sources reported that an unusually large number of vehicles with Latakia and Jableh license plates are busy around the clock transporting furnitures out of Mezzeh 86 to undisclosed locations; while, clusters of shabiha gatherings were seen in a state of heightened excitation characterized by fear and a surreal sense of abandonement in the areas of عش الورور وجبل الرز ومساكن الضباط.

August 27th, 2013, 7:56 pm

 

Tara said:

Heads-up

Links or words of mouth?

Thanks.

August 27th, 2013, 8:03 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Very reliable, very informed and well placed sources.

August 27th, 2013, 8:31 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The language used by Ali to personally attack others on this blog is unacceptable, I am particularly offended by his use of one of the most revered figures in Islam, imam Ali, in his obscene yet empty threats. Please join me in asking the moderator to ban him from posting.

This is why the West does not want the regime to collapse even if they would love and work to remove Assad :
بعد رفض أهلها السماح لهم بفتح مقر .. ” داعش ” تقتحم قرية في ريف حلب و تعدم ثلاثة مدنيين و تهجر سكانها بالكامل ! | عكس السير دوت كوم

قالت مصادر ميدانية في ريف حلب لعكس السير إن داعش ( دولة الإسلام في العراق و الشام ) اقتحمت قرية حربل و قتلت العديد من سكانها بعد رفضهم السماح للدولة بإقامة مقر لها في القرية، أول أمس.

و أكدت المصادر أن ” داعش ” حاولت التمركز بالقرية و إنشاء مقر فيها، إلا أن أهل القرية رفضوا، و راح ضحية الاشتباكات التي تلت الرفض ثلاثة من مقاتلي الدولة.

و بعد رفض الأهالي، قامت قوات ” داعش ” بمحاصرة القرية في اليوم التالي، قبل أن يقوموا باقتحامها، وسط حالة نزوح شبه جماعي للسكان الذين قامت ” داعش ” بإعدام ثلاثة أشخاص ( اثنان من عائلة عقدة و واحد من عائلة طبشو ) منهم في الساحة الرئيسية للقرية، بالإضافة إلى اعتقال العشرات من الشبان.

و لفت ناشطون إلى أن اشتباكات عنيفة دارت في أطراف القرية، بين قوات داعش و رجال القرية الذين ينتمون ( معظمهم ) للواء تحرير سوريا، مع أنباء عن توقفها اليوم، و بدء علمية ” تفاوضية ” بين الطرفين !.

August 27th, 2013, 8:36 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The loser would be Hassan Nasrallah,HA will most likely be hit.

Even that US denies it is regime change, Assad regime will be weaker,while Assad may send his planes to Iraq, airports will be destroyed,
I believe friday is the day, it will take at least three days, ,it will continue till US is sure Assad suffers humilitaing defeat,that he will not be able to use CW again

August 27th, 2013, 8:49 pm

 
 

Observer said:

Please please no banning of ALI or anyone else for that matter. Those pro regime are absolutely invaluable sources of information and argumentation and at time entertainment.

It is essential for me to hear ALI asking me to salute Thouria Alathad and his assertions about the non existence of Syria without his God on the throne.

I am glued to the press conference of the Drum Muallem. I cannot keep it out of my mind and have watched it more than a 100 times today. It is so unbelievably eloquent and reassuring and fills me with pride that Thouria Alathad is going to be “surprising” the enemy with its defenses and that the whole region will be inflamed.

I am also holding my breath when I see that the Daily Star news predicting that HA will engage Israel if Syria is attacked and cannot wait to see the Dahyie Defense forces in action and with “surprises” galore.

I am also memorizing every word that the deputy commander of the Iranian RGC is uttering about the “consequences” of the adventurous forces of arrogance being humiliated by the true believers.

ALI please please please keep informing us of the glorious accomplishments and Revenir please show us your devotion to the shoe shopping first lady it is most soothing balm to our worried minds; sick with worry at the universal extra terrestial conspiracy to topple the axis of rethithance.

Never ban Ali never ban Rev never ban ZOO and by God never ban Touffaha from this post.

August 27th, 2013, 9:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Limited strikes against Assad could backfire and drag US into Syria conflict

Taimur Khan
Aug 28, 2013
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/limited-strikes-against-assad-could-backfire-and-drag-us-into-syria-conflict

NEW YORK // Limited US strikes against the regime of President Bashar Al Assad for its alleged use of chemical weapons could backfire and drag the United States deeper into a conflict it has sought to avoid for two years, analysts say.

US officials and their allies are weighing their military options after saying they believe that the Syrian government carried out the chemical attack on a suburb of Damascus last week that killed up to 1,300 people. But analysts have warned against the dangers of striking strategic targets in Syria, arguing that such action is unlikely to prove effective.

“Half measures are at best meaningless, at worst, counterproductive,” said Christopher Harmer, a senior naval analyst at the Institute for the Study of War.

August 27th, 2013, 9:52 pm

 

zoo said:

Bombing Syria won’t make the blindest bit of difference, Tony Blair
by Giles Fraser
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/27/syria-tony-blair-bombing

Talk of armed intervention in Syria is all about western powers satisfying their desire not to look impotent

What politicians hate most is the perception that they are ineffective and that they are being led by events rather than in control of them. Yet this is precisely what an attack on Syria would represent. For there is obviously no wider plan as to how the west might enable Syria to transition to a more stable and peaceful state. Perhaps no such plan is possibl
….
So, will somebody please explain to us how bombing Assad will make the blindest bit of difference in the grand scheme of things? Because if this is really all about our political leaders being incapable of dealing with their own impotence, then dropping bombs is not going to help.,

August 27th, 2013, 9:57 pm

 

zoo said:

The UN is extremely worried that Syria that had accepted to attend the Geneva conference sponsored by the UN will change its mind if the UN allows the USA and its allies to strike Syria without waiting for the feedback of the UN investigators.

Therefore UN envoy Jeffrey Feltman ( ex US ambassador) went to Iran to ask Iran to convince Syria to attend the Geneva conference, even after the USA will strike Syria. Is’nt a strange and ironical request?

As a returning favor, is the UN now considering inviting Iran to the Geneva conference when France, the US and the UK have objected?

UN Official Urges Iran to Sway Syria Government on Peace Talks

http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-un-official-urges-iran-to-sway-syria-government-on-peace-talks/1738248.html

UNITED NATIONS — A top U.N. official visiting Iran has urged it to use its influence to persuade the Syrian government to attend planned peace talks with opposition groups in Geneva, the United Nations said on Tuesday.

Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs Jeffrey Feltman has spent the past two days in Tehran meeting officials, including Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, to discuss trying to reach a political solution in Syria.

“Mr. Feltman shared the U.N. position that Iran, given its influence and leadership in the region, has an important role to play and a responsibility in helping to bring the Syrian parties to the negotiating table,” said U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq.

Feltman discussed with Iranian officials “the worsening situation on the ground in Syria, including the U.N.’s grave concerns about the potential use of chemical weapons and how the U.N. can work together with Iran and other states to end the bloodshed and suffering of the Syrian people,” said Haq.

August 27th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

zoo said:

NZ yet to be convinced of need to attack Syria
Corazon Miller, Newstalk ZB August 28, 2013, 1:55 pm

The New Zealand government has yet to be convinced the Syrian regime is responsible for the suspected chemical attack which killed over a thousand civilians.

Western intervention in the increasingly volatile middle-eastern state is looking more and more likely, with US troops armed and ready for action.

However foreign affairs minister, Murray McCully says it’s too early to say for sure who was behind the attack.
“We’re expecting to see some material to verify that. That’s one of the early points of discussion obviously. We haven’t been satisfied yet because we haven’t seen that evidence.”

August 27th, 2013, 10:26 pm

 
 

revenire said:

The US claims to have intercepted recordings of Syrian military leaders ordering the chemical weapons attack.

Guess who provided these recordings? Israel.

I am not kidding.

August 27th, 2013, 10:38 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Keep drooling over a large war that will not come but make sure you get a towel, a black one:
Any U.S. strike against Syria is “likely to last hours not days” and probably would not come before the British Parliament votes on military action Thursday, a senior U.S. defense official told Fox News.
Sources tell Fox that a strike would be led by the U.S. Navy and its assets positioned in the Eastern Mediterranean and that it would be limited in scope.

August 27th, 2013, 10:39 pm

 

zoo said:

The rebels were not very happy with the UN inspectors visit therefore they told them that they should not come on Tuesday because they could not assure their security.

http://gulfnews.com/in-focus/syria/syria-to-fight-back-with-surprise-defences-1.1224621

The inspectors had been due to visit the sites again on Tuesday, but Muallem said their trip had been postponed for a day because rebels failed to guarantee their security.

“Today, we were surprised by the fact that they were not able to get there because the rebels did not agree to guarantee the mission’s security. So the mission has been delayed until tomorrow,” said Mua’alem.

The group was originally due to leave Syria on Sunday, but their stay could be extended as they investigate allegations of chemical weapons use in the conflict that has killed more than 100,000 people.

August 27th, 2013, 10:40 pm

 
 

Sami said:

A UN Weapons expert thinks it was Maher that called for the use of CW, but Landis thinks Bashar must’ve okayed it. Either way the 4th division seems to be the guilty culprit. Wasn’t someone praising their “bravery” just recently?

Assad’s Brother Seen Linked to Syria Chemical Attack

The powerful brother of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is suspected of authorizing the chemical weapons attack that killed hundreds of Syrian civilians, according to a United Nations official who monitors armed conflicts in the region.
Maher al-Assad, the younger brother of the president, commands the regime’s Republican Guard and controls the Syrian Army’s 4th Armored Division, an elite unit that the opposition says launched the Aug. 21 attack on the eastern Ghouta suburbs of the capital, Damascus.

The use of chemical weapons may have been a brash action by Maher al-Assad rather than a strategic decision by the president, according to the UN official, who asked not to be named.
Identifying the chain of command behind the chemical attack would go into calculations about who, what and how to strike in any retaliatory action, the UN official said. If Maher al-Assad is the culprit, for example, a Republican Guard stronghold may be targeted rather than a presidential facility, the official said.
Joshua Landis, director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, doubts that such an important action — openly defying U.S. President Barack Obama’s “red line” against the use of chemical weapons — would be done without Bashar al-Assad’s approval.
“It’s inconceivable to me,” Landis said in a phone interview. “There has been nothing to indicate that Bashar is just a figurehead.”

Shadowy Figure

For now, the role of Maher al-Assad is largely a matter of conjecture. He’s a shadowy figure with a reputation for loyalty to his brother and brutality toward their opponents. Early in the uprising, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan publicly denounced his “savagery.”
“I don’t doubt that he is ruthless, but I also don’t doubt that Bashar is ruthless,” said Landis. “Is he more ruthless than Bashar? I think that is a useless line of inquiry because they are both killing people with abandon.”
The opposition says as many as 1,300 people, many of them women and children, died and many more were injured in the pre-dawn attack after rebel advances in the area. UN inspectors visited the area on Aug. 26 to gather evidence from victims and the attack scene to help determine whether and what kind of chemicals were used. Their mandate doesn’t extend to determining who was responsible.

Odd Timing

The timing of the attack was surprising because the UN chemical-weapons inspection team was already in Damascus, initially assigned to investigating several previous small incidents. Also, it came at a time when the regime, bolstered by Iran and the Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah militia, has strengthened its position and recaptured some lost ground.

The Assad brothers are bound together in a effort to maintain their family’s four-decade rule in the face of an uprising by the dominant Sunni population and an influx of radical Islamist fighters allied with al-Qaeda. More than 100,000 people have died since the uprising began with peaceful protests in March 2011, according to the UN.

Their father, Hafez al-Assad, who took control of Syria in a 1970 coup, established a security structure that relied on loyalty from family, those who shared their minority Alawite faith, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, and some members of the country’s Sunni elite, as well as some Christians and members of the Druze sect.
Brutal Crackdown
Hafez al-Assad put his younger brother, Rifaat, in charge of the elite Alawite forces that defend the leadership. Rifaat al-Assad led a crackdown against a 1982 Sunni uprising in which an estimated 25,000 people were killed in the city of Hama.
Hafez chose Bashar, an ophthalmologist by training, over Maher as his heir after their brother Bassel, who was being groomed to follow his father, died in a car accident in 1994. Bashar, who took power in 2000 following his father’s death, installed Maher as his security chief.
“Maher is the knee-capper in this operation,” said Landis. “He is in charge of doing the heavy lifting of punishing people and preserving the regime through military means.”
Maher commands the Republican Guard, as well as having effective command of the elite 4th Armored Division’s force of 20,000 to 25,000 troops.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/assad-s-brother-seen-linked-to-syria-chemical-attack.html

August 27th, 2013, 11:48 pm

 

Juergen said:

Putin is behaving once more like a spoiled kid who isnt welcome at the playground:

Putin orders massive strike against Saudi Arabia if West attacks Syria

“A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.”

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-arabia-if-west-attacks-syria/

August 28th, 2013, 12:19 am

 

revenire said:

Juergen I highly doubt Putin has ordered an attack on Saudi Arabia. That seems fantastic.

August 28th, 2013, 12:25 am

 

Juergen said:

Assad made it these days to the Guignols de L’info. In french he has lost his th problem…

french with arabic subtitles

August 28th, 2013, 12:26 am

 

ghufran said:

Egypt:

Tamarrod spoke person condemns plans to bomb Syria and calls those who support the anticipated campaign ” traitors”:
قال محمود بدر – المتحدث الرسمي لحركة تمرد المصرية، إنه يؤيد الجيش العربي السوري في مواجهة الضربة العسكرية الأمريكية المرتقبة تجاه سوريا ، مؤكدا رفضه التام القاطع لأي تدخل عسكري أجنبي في أي أرض عربية.
ووصف بدر من يستدعي قوى خارجية للتدخل في بلاده ويشجع على تدخلها عسكريا ويقف مع المحتل ويرحب به بأنه خائن لوطنه.
“Egypt rejects military intervention in Syria, as we believe a political solution is the only way out for the crisis there. Egypt supports the Geneva Two talks,” said FM Fahmy in a press conference held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Cairo Tuesday.

first Iraq, then Libya, now Syria and later Egypt !!

August 28th, 2013, 12:56 am

 

apple_mini said:

Here is typical America the mightiest:

We will have to punish you for you had stepped on my big toe. That was our “red line”.

But don’t you be scared. We won’t really going to harm you. Take off your macho leather jacket on Thursday night and put it on balcony and we will sent our commandos to flog it. By the next morning, you can tide up the jacket and put it on so you can still keep up your macho appearance. Don’t forget to pour some tomato sauce on your balcony so others would think you are hurt a little.

Sincerely your Mighty neighbor on the other side of the world!

Here is the juicy part. If you behave nicer from now on and if you ask, we might send in some pigeons to drop some droppings on imported cockroaches in your north corner of your home.

To the death squad and its associates, don’t be surprised if soon US drones to target Nusra and isil. Your dear US administration already said those Islamists are the biggest threat to their national interest. After they make that kind of statement , there will be followup and treatment.

This whole CW stole the spotlight but it will be over by next Monday. Unlike the promised and announced strike against the regime, the attacks on those Al Qaeda are deadly.

August 28th, 2013, 1:00 am

 

Syrian said:

Tick tock,tick tock,tick tock…..

August 28th, 2013, 1:13 am

 

annie said:

Anyone knows more about this ? I know, source is zio

Unconfirmed Report: Syria’s President Assad, Family Members and Gov’t Officials in Tehran
Ynet:

Syrian President Bashar Assad arrived in Tehran, Iran on Tuesday evening, al-Nahar news reported. The report has not been confirmed by any reliable source.

According to the Iranian state television, a source in the Iranian Foreign Ministry said that Assad’s plane landed in Tehran’s Khomeini Airport accompanied by several Syrian government officials and several members of his family. The report was unconfirmed by other sources.

August 28th, 2013, 1:27 am

 

Syrian said:

Sara, do you have any opinion or observation about the chemical attack on Wednesday, on Damascus suburb?

August 28th, 2013, 1:31 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

……don’t be surprised if soon US drones to target Nusra and isil. Your dear US administration already said those Islamists are the biggest threat to their national interest. After they make that kind of statement , there will be followup and treatment.

Many will be elated at that and would love to see that part of the regime extinguished as it is an integral component of the terrorist structure of the assad regime. But it seems that hardly-a-massacre is really upset at the prospect….. wonder why?

August 28th, 2013, 1:47 am

 

Juergen said:

Annie

Sounds to good to be true.
There are unconfirmed reports that members of the family left from Beirut airport with an unknown destination. Also I read on twitter that 5 baracks of the brigade Maher controls were abandoned.

August 28th, 2013, 1:50 am

 

Syrian said:

Juergen;
Can you check this German news report, it says something about an extra night movement of American planes in Frankfurt.
http://youtu.be/XNjUZBxm_1o

August 28th, 2013, 2:12 am

 
 

Syrian said:

Where Hasen Nes-lira, he was bombarded us weekly with fiery speeches , even his willingness to fight himself the”takfiri” i.e Sunnis, how come he is nowhere to be found to issue his threats defending Chemical Bashar, or is his militias are only to fight Syrians ?

August 28th, 2013, 2:39 am

 

annie said:

Chemical Bashar in French with Arab subtitles Les Guignols
http://youtu.be/vW_elKv4C5E

August 28th, 2013, 3:02 am

 

Juergen said:

Syrian

The expert said that the night flight ban was lifted in Frankfurt airport and he suggested that military personal was moved and an attack is imminent.He said that Putin will not accept an attack on Syria, and this will raise the level of this confrontation. He then declared that the Arab spring is over, and religious wars will be likely to be seen in the next years. He concluded that the gold and silver price will rise, and if gulf states are involved also the oil price.( this report was made for the Stuttgart stock exchange-therefore business orientated)

A note, Frankfurt Airport is usually used by US military personal if they travel on regular carriers, there is an 24h office for US military personal in the airport, where usually the transport is provided for the HQ in Heidelberg and to the airbase in Rammstein. Apparently there have been planes which had to land in Frankfurt, that should mean we talk about regular Boeing aircrafts. Military aircrafts all land in the nearby Rammstein airbase, around the clock.The night ban on flights can always be lifted upon request.

August 28th, 2013, 3:09 am

 

DAMASCUSROSE said:

Tara #127 is absolutely right, if the regime doesn’t crumble, it will take its revenge against the Syrian people. I wouldn’t doubt that they’re already planning some massive attacks on civilians using conventional or chemical/biological weapons and then blaming the Americans or the rebels during the chaos of the initial strike. They are some crazy homicidal maniacs in the Syrian ranks, they’ve sent their families to Lebanon or abroad with the money, most of them know they’re dead men walking. They’re ready to go down in flames, they’re ready to burn the country for Assad, everyone thought it’s a slogan, they were always serious! The west is hoping the regime will gain its senses after the attack and come to the negotiating table, they won’t. If the regime survives, expect atrocities at levels not seen in recent history, what’s the U.S. going to do, launch more missiles? The U.S. doesn’t care about Syrian lives, unfortunately, this is all about Obama saving face and teaching the bad boy a lesson, nothing else, ordinary Syrian lives are cheap and irrelevant to the powers that be.

The 4th and RG divisions bases are all been emptied out, weapon depots being emptied out and transferred, tanks and armored vehicles are being dispersed into residential areas in Qudsaya and Dahia as well as combat fronts. Officers and soldiers not on the front lines told to go home and report back later. Jet fighters will probably be sent to Iraq or Iran (if not already), helicopters and missile launchers will be hidden in the countryside and covered areas.

If it’s a small attack, the regime will absorb it to fight another day. If it’s a major attack, coordinated with major rebel offensives and they sense they’re going to lose, expect them to light up the entire region, they probably want Damascus reduced to rubble anyway – Assad is on record saying he can win if he destroys Damascus! Someone in the regime probably decided to launch the chemical attacks on the ghouta to initiate this confrontation. Someone wanted the end game to start. This will probably be the real turning point toward the abyss. Pray for us.

August 28th, 2013, 3:20 am

 

Alan said:

Great Russian: N E T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

August 28th, 2013, 4:15 am

 

apple_mini said:

Don’t you worry. SAA is ready to absorb some loss but does not expect that much. Because in the end, US and the west actually are relying on SAA to fight off those Islamists which they consider the biggest security threat in the region.

That is why the WH openly says they have no plan to change the dynamic on the ground. Let alone regime change.

The irony is that after 2 years of meddling, the extremists have grown and swollen to the point that the west would rather prefer to have Assad and the regime stay in power.

After the very much advertised “punishment” is over, the SAA is recommended back to business.

Now the regime should be working hard to use this western invasion to play some powerful PR and propaganda warfare.

August 28th, 2013, 5:24 am

 

revenire said:

US “evidence”

Wednesday, August 28
9:40 GMT: Israeli intelligence has reportedly intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials concerning the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told German magazine Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official underlined.

August 28th, 2013, 5:46 am

 

revenire said:

That’s right. The “evidence” came from the Zionists.

Wall Street Journal: “U.S., Allies Prepare to Act as Syria Intelligence Mounts”

One crucial piece of the emerging case came from Israeli spy services, which provided the Central Intelligence Agency with intelligence from inside an elite special Syrian unit that oversees Mr. Assad’s chemical weapons, Arab diplomats said. The intelligence, which the CIA was able to verify, showed that certain types of chemical weapons were moved in advance to the same Damascus suburbs where the attack allegedly took place a week ago, Arab diplomats said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324906304579039342815115978.html

August 28th, 2013, 5:51 am

 

apple_mini said:

Under the fanfare of US strikes, Nusra and ISIL officially merged yesterday.

Syria government is officially fighting Al Qaeda and the opposition once claimed that “Today we are all Nusra” lost another mask for its true evil intention.

America and the west, are officially hand in hand fighting with Al Qaeda in the same trench. We are expecting explanation from US administration when facing the press. Or they can just dodge the topic and not talk about it at all.

August 28th, 2013, 5:59 am

 

revenire said:

USA = Al-Qaeda’s air force

August 28th, 2013, 6:15 am

 

Juergen said:

Der Spiegel had an explanation why the Syrian regime has used the chemicals on such a widespread level now.
They explained that Assad had used chemical attacks before on a smaller level,at least 4 attacks were registred. He did so to test the international community to see their willingness to use such weapons. Der Spiegel went on to explain how they tried to get samples of body tissue and samples of grounds outside of the country to test it. They have tried this for 2 months, all countries, labs they contacted refused to test it, even the german government advised them that such tests will not be tolerated, only the UN or the OPCW can take and pursue such tests, and Germany will work on that UN teams can test.
According to DER SPIEGEL Assad felt he could pursue an larger attack, since no actions were pursued after the smaller attacks were carried out. The article went on to explain that such amounts of chemical weaponms could only have a source within the regime, no opposition force can bring up such quanteties, and if SARIN was used, only a handful of countries have this poison in stock.
If the US is reluctant to provide heavy arms like anti aircraft missiles, should they then provide large amounts of SARIN to opposition forces, and operate on rebel controlled areas nearby the capital?

Joshua in his article explained that attacks should merely focus on the chemical facilities of the regime. Good, but honestly I think without boots on the ground such aerial attacks wont serve the purpose. I hope at least special teams will enter during the attacks and take out major facilities nearby Aleppo and Damascus, if the storage is still in the places which are known to the US.

August 28th, 2013, 6:50 am

 

Tara said:

Run cowards, run!

قال مراسل الجزيرة في لبنان إن أكثر من عشرة آلاف سوري عبروا نقطة المصنع الحدودية إلى لبنان خلال 24 ساعة وذلك تحسبا لضربة محتملة على سوريا. وأضاف أنه ووفقا لمعلومات السلطات الرسمية في المعبر فإن معظم الفارين هم من منطقة العاصمة دمشق ومن بين الميسورين كما توضح لوحات سياراتهم ونوعياتها.

August 28th, 2013, 7:00 am

 
 

Norman said:

Is it proven that the government used the Chemical weapons, not the militants?

August 28th, 2013, 7:08 am

 

Syrialover said:

No matter how much we love to hate them, the Israeli intelligence service will be doing an excellent job monitoring inside Syrian regime activities.

They have cutting edge espionage tactics and technology the Russians and Iranians wouldn’t even recognize.

They would know more about what Bashar does all day than Asma knows. They will have more information on the thinking of Bashar’s offsiders than he does.

No surprise REVENIRE in his posts above is frantic about the damning phone evidence they recorded of regime involvement in the CW attack.

Everybody knows how good the Israelis are at this stuff. Trying to dismiss it as “Zionist” evidence won’t change a thing.

August 28th, 2013, 7:20 am

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, all the heads up I brought up to your attention turned out to be just that.

Tune in to heads up to always be ahead of the game. That’s what We do best. We are reliable, well informed and very very well placed.

Never settle for the mediocrity of the ratvenires, the rotten apples, the animal wards, or even the ulteriorly motivated experts-in-disguise.

August 28th, 2013, 7:25 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

No matter how much we love to hate them…

Syrialover,

Maybe one day that will change 😉

August 28th, 2013, 7:32 am

 

Syrialover said:

The world is deeply moved when it witnesses the human responses of the regime’s victims.

Almost 800,000 people have so far watched this video of a Syrian man’s reunion with his child after thinking he’d been killed in the CW attack like the rest of his family. It’s also being shown on TV stations around the world.

Just one victim, representing to the world the suffering and terror being inflicted by Assad on millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch feature=player_embedded&v=uP012gncXbo

August 28th, 2013, 7:43 am

 

omen said:

look at this sentence:

With Syria back in the news due to the horrific chemical weapons attack last week…

i just want to smack ’em.

August 28th, 2013, 7:50 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Some say AlQaida is bad, HA is bad Assad regime is bad,but one bad thing is worse than another bad, Assad regime is THE worst,so action has to concentrate on Assad regime first.

It is not the choice between good and bad, Assad regime is certainly THE WORST EVIL,

August 28th, 2013, 7:51 am

 

omen said:

Just so you know, all the heads up I brought up to your attention turned out to be just that.

thank you kindly. wish i could share you on twitter. but maybe you are already there.

August 28th, 2013, 7:54 am

 

omen said:

257. Akbar Palace said: Keep Your Fingers Crossed
Here’s a little picture to cheer-up those in Syria who are hoping for a better future:

diplomacy. pfft. with all due respect, it’s been europe & obama giving assad the green light all this time to continue.

August 28th, 2013, 8:01 am

 

Syrialover said:

MYTH BUSTING

It has taken two and a half years and more than 100,000 lives for several myths about Syria to be shattered.

The first is that a state run by a brutal crime syndicate — the Sopranos with WMD — could be pressured or coaxed from power peacefully. The second is that a Baathist dictator would never again deploy poison gas against a people he enslaves, much less do so in the age of the camera cellphone and YouTube. The third is that any direct military intervention would be unilateral and therefore met with international skepticism or censure.

Obama never needed to go searching for coalition of the willing for Syria; one comes pre-assembled for him and has been knocking, in fact, at the door to the Oval Office for quite some time. Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates, all see Syria as a grave short-term threat to their national security. Great Britain and France, both justly petrified of the return of radicalized militants to European soil, appear to glimpse at least a medium-term threat to their own borders. All will participate in a U.S.-led intervention, as has been made amply clear this week.

And with four U.S. destroyers stationed in the Mediterranean — and pock-marked runways in Damascus — it is unlikely that Russia and Iran, neither of which share contiguous borders with Syria, can do much beyond scream and shout. Materially speaking, they’ve already done everything they can and it’s led us to where we are now.

From “How to oust Assad”
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139874/michael-weiss/how-to-oust-assad

August 28th, 2013, 8:13 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Omen,

You get no argument from me.

August 28th, 2013, 8:15 am

 

zoo said:

Are they all having cold feet? After loud threats of acting this week outside the UN, the promised imminent strikes’ seem to be postponed to an undefined date.

UK
After repeatedly saying that a a UN resolution would be useless, UK submit a UN resolution and will debate the situation at the parlement. Russia replies that it is ‘premature’

“LONDON (MarketWatch) — The U.K. government said it will present a resolution to the United Nations Security Council condemning last week’s suspected chemical-weapons attack by the Syrian government and requesting authorization for “all necessary measures” to protect civilians from chemical weapons.
“The U.K. later Wednesday will call for authorization for all measures under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which covers how the international community responds to threats to peace and acts of aggression.”

France
“But despite US reports possible strikes could begin as early as Thursday, a French said the country’s parliament would only debate the Syria crisis on September 4, raising doubts about any imminent military action. ”

the USA

US won’t do anything without France and UK
“US rules out unilateral military action in Syria
Aug 2013 7:56 PM

WASHINGTON: The United States has ruled out unilateral military action against Syria and is conferring with allies on potential punitive strikes that could last for more than a day, a senior US official said on Wednesday.

“Any military action would not be unilateral. It would include international partners,” the senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told reporters

UN

Ban’s special envoy for Syria, Algerian diplomat Lakhdar Brahimi, said “international law is clear” in requiring Council authorisation for any military action.

August 28th, 2013, 8:15 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

If US strike Assad regime, and not remove him, he may use CW again,the world will mock the US,so piece at a time is grave mistake, Assad must go

August 28th, 2013, 8:21 am

 

omen said:

obama’s been stymied by this?

According to most assessments, the Syrian Air Force currently has less than a hundred fixed-wing aircraft capable of flight condition and about fifty helicopters.

August 28th, 2013, 8:23 am

 

zoo said:

Panic continues in Israel
Israelis scramble for gas masks as tensions rise
By DANIEL ESTRIN Associated Press

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/un-council-set-for-syria-clash-as-west-readies-attack-515585.html

JERUSALEM—Israelis lined up at gas-mask distribution centers Wednesday and communities bordering Syria readied bomb shelters as top government officials held emergency meetings amid fears of a possible Syrian attack on Israel. Israel also deployed additional missile defense systems near the country’s border with Syria.

August 28th, 2013, 8:25 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The Irony is that president Obama two years ago said Assad has to go, yet yesterday Jim Carney said this is not about regime change.

Destroying Assad airport makes it easy to declare NFZ

August 28th, 2013, 8:30 am

 

zoo said:

#274 Majed

“The Irony is that president Obama two years ago said Assad has to go, yet yesterday Jim Carney said this is not about regime change.”

Isn’t is time you wake up to the inconsistency and unreliability of your government?

The USA is only a reliable ally to Israel. With all the other middle eastern countries, it is pure opportunism often covered by the mask of US high “moral” principles.
It would dump these leaders anytime they become weak and stop serving the US interests.
The Syrian opposition is learning that at their own expenses. After having allowed Al Qaeda in their ranks, they don’t serve the main US interest of protecting Israel, they will be dumped.

August 28th, 2013, 8:45 am

 

Tara said:

Is there any evidence that the US is going to strike other than the media expectation?

How could it be an imminent strike when the White House keep saying that Obama has not made any decision yet?

Are we in for complete disappointment?

August 28th, 2013, 8:46 am

 

Observer said:

This is a brief from Haaretz about gas masks in Israel
“According to a report in Ma’ariv, Israel’s home front command is grappling with the problem of providing gas masks to men with beards, extremely common among ultra-Orthodox Jews. A special mask, which can accommodate a beard, is available but the high cost means it is only distributed to men over 65 or whose beards are for health reasons.

“Men who grow beards for religious reasons will have to shave in the event of a chemical attack,” Ma’ariv reported.”

So, I think that those religious zealots of Nusra will be at a major threat of never getting a proper mask on their faces and therefore will die first in case the regime uses more CW.

Maybe they should shave now.
If they shave, this will give credence to the regime’s narrative that they are responsible for the chemical attack. I would love to see the regime use this latest “evidence” of a conjured chemical weapons attack to try to wiggle itself out of this conundrum.

Norman, no one has the capability of using CW in missile attacks and of such magnitude outside of the regime.

I also would post again the following:

If the rebels used CW then it is a huge failure of the regime to protect its citizens therefore someone must be held accountable. If the rebels used CW, Syria should be asking the UNSC to bring troops on the ground to disarm the rebels as it cannot do it alone. If the rebels used CW, we should have seen the boy iPad going to the victims to help them and opening up the hospitals for their care and distributing atropine a cheap first antidote massively to many areas around Damascus.

In the meantime, the Russian police confiscated today a painting with Putin on it in women’s underwear. Now that is news worthy of a true dictator.

Formalities formalities. I hope and pray that our most eloquent Walid al Tabl Muallam would follow through with his “surprising” retaliation and I hope and pray that the missiles will fly all the way towards the arch enemy and give it a taste of the suffering that it has inflicted on the glorious resistance of the axis of non arrogance and meekness the Ray Ban family clan and the man on his way to Tehran.

Cheers.

August 28th, 2013, 8:54 am

 

zoo said:

Doubts and worries grow about the effectiveness and potential dangers of ‘limited’ strikes

Syria strikes could worsen war, analysts say
By Matt Smith, CNN
August 28, 2013
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/28/us/us-syria-risks/index.html

“Striking the chemical sites presents a very real risk of releasing toxic chemicals over nearby civilian populations. Not striking the chemical sites leaves Assad with potent weapons in his hands that he’s shown he’s willing to use.”

the kind of intervention being discussed isn’t likely to affect the balance of power in the 2-year-old Syrian conflict beyond providing a psychological boost to the rebels, who have suffered battlefield setbacks over the summer.

The war “is being fought in alleyways and at close quarters, with artillery and tanks inside cities,” he said. Missile strikes from distant warships or aircraft wouldn’t be able to knock out enough of those weapons to make a difference without inflicting extensive civilian losses, he said.

August 28th, 2013, 9:01 am

 

omen said:

assad doesn’t even have decency to wait until after the strike!

12 hours ago:

Syrian regime used the #CW again today in #Jobar #Syria

https://twitter.com/ObadahD/status/372497185000026113

20 cases of suffocation/asphyxiation in Jobar, result of regime use of toxic gas.

[screen shot]

https://twitter.com/Palestyria/status/372510700947898368

August 28th, 2013, 9:03 am

 

zoo said:

Omen

The Jobar rebels are being crushed by regular weapons and they have not been trained well on how to handle and to use the chemical weapons they have in their possession.

August 28th, 2013, 9:13 am

 

omen said:

276. Observer said: In the meantime, the Russian police confiscated today a painting with Putin on it in women’s underwear. Now that is news worthy of a true dictator.

oic. putin is the one in the back.

August 28th, 2013, 9:16 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Heat destroys sarin gas, US can bomb the surrounding area to create heat so Sarin gas becomes ineffective and eliminate the risk.

Norman
The fact that Assad did not allow immidiate inspection means Assad regime has something to hide,nor he supplied atropine, and the attack was IN rebels area, and it was not used in reef Latakia.
Also the CW were used in several places ,the rebels can not do.

August 28th, 2013, 9:18 am

 

zoo said:

282. majedkhaldoun

You mean that in the ‘surrounding area’ there are no civilians that would be killed by the bombings? This is not a video game…

In addition there is no proof that the toxic gas is Sarin.

From the UN, Ibrahimi just said ‘chemical subtances’, other ‘experts’ mentioned mustard gaz.
Will the US take the chance of committing another Hiroshima to topple Bashar Al Assad on unproven evidence?

August 28th, 2013, 9:31 am

 

zoo said:

Ban Ki Moon: Four days more to conclude the inspection

THE HAGUE: United Nations inspectors, in Syria to determine whether forces have used chemical weapons in the civil war, need four days to conclude their investigation and time to analyse the findings, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on Wednesday.

“They are working very hard, under very, very dangerous circumstances,” Ban told a news conference in The Hague where he was attending centenary celebrations for the Peace Palace.

“Let them conclude their work for four days, and then we will have to analyse scientifically with experts and then I think we will have to report to the Security Council for any actions.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-28/229046-weapons-inspectors-need-four-days-in-syria-to-conclude-probe.ashx#ixzz2dGqVfnHu

“As long as inspectors remain in Syria, Western attacks are improbable, given the risk they would pose to the team’s safety. “

August 28th, 2013, 9:38 am

 

revenire said:

“Are we in for complete disappointment?”

Tara you’re in for the death of your hopes of Assad being crushed.

August 28th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

In Iraq ,the UN team could not verify the WMD,yet war started, in Syria CW was used yet war did not start.
As Rumsfield said
in War there is known known, known unknown, unknown unknown

August 28th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

zoo said:

These strikes are the proof of the failure of the international community that has allowed and encouraged the escalation of the militarization of the conflict as they were exclusively focused on a “regime change” and refused to accept anything less through a political compromise.

Killing Civilians to Protect Civilians in Syria

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/18449-killing-civilians-to-protect-civilians-in-syria

…The United States and the international community have failed to take constructive steps to promote peace-making efforts, which could have brought the crisis in Syria to an end. The big powers instead have waged a proxy war to give their “side” a stronger hand in future negotiations, evaluating the situation only in terms of geopolitical concerns. The result has been to once again demonstrate that military solutions to political and economic problems are no solution at all. In the meantime, the fans of enmity between religious factions have been inflamed to such a degree that the demonization of each by the other has created fertile ground for slaughter and excuses for not negotiating with anyone with “blood on their hands.”

Despite U.S. claims of “little doubt that Assad used these weapons,” there is significant doubt among the international community about which side employed chemical weapons. Many view the so-called rebels as trying to create a situation to provoke U.S. intervention against Assad. Indeed, in May, Carla del Ponte, former international prosecutor and current UN commissioner on Syria, concluded that opposition forces used sarin gas against civilians.

August 28th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

apple_mini said:

Let’s keep up the bluffing.

The west said they would not stop Saddam from using CW because they already knew he would.

Poor man’s “nuclear weapons” killed tens of thousands of Iranian soldiers and Kurdish civilians. The west said nothing and the world moved on.

Now the west is ready to punish Syrian government for its unproven CW use. The bluff goes both ways: west says it will be more forceful punishment if Syria uses CW again. If the regime indeed had used CW just for tactic reasons, then what would be the scale if strategic goal is required?

Bluffing can turn into nightmare if someone accidentally pulls the trigger.

I suppose since the regime had promised Syrians the government has maintained capacity to deter invasion from Israel. Holding on CW has become a liability. IMHO, CW nowadays is a useless tool for bluffing.

Maintaining and training of CW are costy. The regime can send out good gesture by seeking international help for removing and destroying those CW. Then the west will most likely call off the strike and SAA can use more soldiers to combat those Islamists.

August 28th, 2013, 9:52 am

 

Tara said:

Reve,

Allah Kareem.

August 28th, 2013, 9:58 am

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, the Syrian counterpart of the famed Iraqi Muhammad Al-Sahhaf has been identified and is currently fulfilling his duties as assigned to him by the ‘leadership’ currently vacationing in Tehran until further notice. He is Rafiq Lutf. His most famous quote so far is the following:

هل تذكرون كم مرة احتفظنا بحق الرد؟ الآن آن أوان الرد

He also warned of the presence of a covert plot to en-act cases of desertions orchestrated by ‘the invading enemy’ involving a huge number of military personnel, among them very high ranking officers, in order to create widespread chaos and dissension in the ranks who, according to Lutf, are pro-Assad to the very very core if left to their own ‘free-will’ to choose minus the chaos-spreading scheme, which according to Lutf is part and parcel of the arsenal of the invaders to destroy the Assad order.

August 28th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

zoo said:

Apple_mini

I agree with you. Chemical weapons are an obsolete deterrent as it is easy to fabricate false evidence of its use and pin it down on the government.
Nuclear weapon is certainly a much better deterrent as it can’t be fabricated and used in ‘test’ scale.
In the case of Iraq, the USA knew very well that there wasn’t any nuclear weapons. If they had the slightest doubt they would have never take the chance to expose its troops and its allies to such weapons. The USA fabricated the evidence just to justify Iraq’s invasion.
In the case of Iran, they don’t know if Iran has or doesnt have. Therefore they’ll never dare to attack Iran.

As for Syria, the US and everybody know they have a stock of chemical weapons. Therefore it was easy to fabricate situations where the Syrian government was alleged to have used it.

To break the vicious cycle Syria should announce now that it is ready to hand over its chemical weapons to the UN and renounce to build anymore.
That will cut all the rumors and eliminate the building of the pretext for a attack to destroy them

August 28th, 2013, 10:08 am

 

Ghat Al Bird said:

Given the sometimes venemous commentaries on SC one can still detect a modicum of the beliefs of all the Syrians.

Could it not be time, say for SC leaders to propose a meeting of the diverse groups to discuss and develop a resolution that would satisfy all concerned?

Its hard to accept the fact the Syrians of different beliefs are so dedicated to killing each other. Continuing this murderous war does not do justice to the character and standing of Syrians as a historical people.

A starting point must be the realization that no ONE who is not a Syrian at heart does not give a sh*t about Syria. Apologises.

August 28th, 2013, 10:15 am

 

omen said:

291. Ghat Al Bird said: A starting point must be the realization that no ONE who is not a Syrian at heart does not give a sh*t about Syria.

worse are syrians who do not give a **** about other syrians. especially those not of his sect or class. see apple “hardly a massacre” mini.

August 28th, 2013, 10:31 am

 

annie said:

The good news is that there aren’t many high-use tarmacs left to hit. Of the 27 airbases in Syria that are capable of assisting with the Syrian Air Force’s primary missions, just six are left in full use. The others are either rebel controlled or fiercely contested. Chris Harmer, senior naval analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, has shown that the Syrian Air Force is down to around 100 fixed-wing mission-ready aircraft. In a series of intricately detailed briefings, Harmer has also outlined a credible plan of action for seriously degrading Assad’s air capability without “any US aircraft entering Syrian air space.” Instead, the United States would rely chiefly on naval-launched cruise missiles or aircraft stand-off systems fired from international or allied territory. Israeli, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Turkish, and even Italian soil could all be used for this purpose. Those countries would all allow it, too.
see http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139874/michael-weiss/how-to-oust-assad

August 28th, 2013, 10:40 am

 

omen said:

not good. how many more people have to die, obama.

Officials said that while Syrian rocket and artillery sites were expected to be targeted, there were no current plans to use Tomahawks to crater airfields used by the government to receive weapons and military supplies from Iran, an important lifeline for the Assad government.

August 28th, 2013, 11:14 am

 

revenire said:

Saleh Muslim, head of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) of Syria, told Reuters that he doubted the Syrian president would resort to using chemical weapons when he felt he had the upper hand in the country’s civil war. He asserted that the attack was an attempt at framing Assad and provoking an international attack.

“The regime in Syria … has chemical weapons, but they wouldn’t use them around Damascus, 5 kilometers from the (U.N.) committee which is investigating chemical weapons. Of course they are not so stupid as to do so,” Muslim told Reuters.

August 28th, 2013, 11:20 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Apple Mini threat
If the regime indeed had used CW just for tactic reasons, then what would be the scale if strategic goal is required?

There is no more wicked suggestion than this.
I answer

The scale would be complete annihilation of your people that you support,and the death of million sunni,and Assad and his family will be bad history

August 28th, 2013, 11:47 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

What a childish and infantile idea by Apple Mini
Assad is ready to hand over its chemical weapons to the UN and renounce to build anymore.
It is just like the murderer says take my gun,but don’t punish me

There has to be punishment for past criminal action,no matter what, 1300 death,the punishment must be capital punishment

August 28th, 2013, 11:58 am

 

revenire said:

Obama is weak. He is afraid to launch war. He wants someone to give him permission.

The army is killing the enemy today. Many are dead and the others are begging Obama intervenes soon.

Hear their cries?

“Save us Obama. Save us from the SAA.”

Too late.

August 28th, 2013, 12:01 pm

 

ghufran said:

256. Tara said:
Run cowards, run!

Really, Tara ?
You know very well that it could have been you or your family (or any Syrian on this blog)in that line of “cowards”. Did you expect people to wait for the bombs to fall on their heads?
What would you and your family do if you were in those people’s shoes? I find it repulsive that expats who live in the west in safety and comfort are lecturing Syrians about bravery and Jihad, and I am not referring to any particular person here.
Every time I hear daily testimonies from Syrians struggling to get bread and basic necessities for their kids while my kids and your kids pick and choose I realize who the real cowards are.
There is no love lost between me,my family and the Assad-makhlouf clan but Syria is much bigger than two families and their corrupt cronies.

August 28th, 2013, 12:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara knows the cowards are her friends who have begged for the weakling Obama to attack from thousands of miles away. Obama is afraid to enter Syrian air space. US soldiers are good at killing babies but not men who fight back.

August 28th, 2013, 12:18 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

So stupid
Tamarrod movement in Egypt calling to block Sues Canal,to block American ships from sailing to launch attack against Assad

August 28th, 2013, 12:21 pm

 

sf94123 said:

In the criminal justice, defendant has the right to a fair trial and jurors must reach a decision either guilty Beyond a Reasonable Doubt or not guilty. There is no in between like somehow guilty or a little bit guilty.

The CW attack was a criminal act and shouldn’t be treated differently. . We must first find out who is responsible. Solid proof and concrete evidence must be presented to the world community and -you better be damned sure this time around -before we start an unnecessary new war in the toxic Muslim world of the ME. It is a cesspool there. Let’s stay away! The UN will deal with it. Americans are sick and tired of wars.

August 28th, 2013, 12:23 pm

 

Ziad said:

السيسي يأمر بمنع مرور أية سفن حربية في قناة ’’السويس’’ هدفها توجيه ضربة عسكرية لسوريا

نقلت وكالة “الانباء رويترز” خبراً عن وزير الدفاع المصري الفريق عبد الفتاح السيسي يأمر فيه بمنع دخول قناه السويس لأية سفن حربية أمريكية او مدمرات تخص البحرية البريطانية او غيرها من الجنسيات.
وقالت رويترز إن “السيسي يؤكد بهذا القرار على التزام الحكومة في مصر باتفاقيه الدفاع المشترك بينها وبين سوريا، مما سيصعب المهمة على الولايات المتحدة و بريطانيا في حال صدور قرار بضرب الاراض السورية”.

http://www.mepanorama.com/334801/السيسي-يأمر-بمنع-مرور-أية-سفن-حربية-في/#axzz2dHPGgPyQ

August 28th, 2013, 12:30 pm

 

Tara said:

Ghufran,

Few of my ex-cousins were in that line.

I do not value my life or my family life more than I value the life of any other Syrian or human being. That said, I find it very difficult to feel sympathy for the perceived terror inflicted on rich Damascenes from the possibility of American strike for they lack any drop of humanity or concern toward their fellow 100,000 Syrians who died by the regime’s killing machine.

Yes they are coward and despicable too. Their own lives mean much to them whereas the lives of thousand Syrian children meant absolutely nothing to them.

Remember Ghufran, Batta and his Alawi sect could not have done it alone… Without the rich and the corrupt. These people as culprit as any other Shabeeh in town .

Sorry Ghufran, I do not for the time being find sympathy for those who assisted the killers in me.

August 28th, 2013, 12:33 pm

 

Ziad said:

مفاتيح لغز إسقاط دمشق موجودة الغوطة … و لجنة التحقيق أهدافها في العلن غير أهدافها في الباطن / دنيز نجم

عجلة الحرب الكونية تدور بسرعة جنونية على سورية و غموض كبير يلف الأحداث الأخيرة في العاصمة دمشق بدايةً من وصول لجنة الخبراء المكلفين من الأمم المتحدة للتحقيق بشأن السلاح الكيميائي وصولاً إلى استخدام هذا السلاح و بعد الانتصارات التي حققها الجيش العربي السوري بدأ المخطط الصهيوأميركي ينهزم وهنا قررت الولايات المتحدة الأميركية أن تتحرك بسرعة قبل أن تضطر للاعتراف بهزيمتها و لم يعد أمامها الوقت الطويل لتنفذ ما تبقى لديها من سيناريوهات و هذا ما بان للعلن أنه بعد وصول اللجنة بأيام تم استخدام السلاح الكيميائي و كأنه جرس الانذار الذي يؤشر بوضوح لعملية كبيرة خططوا لها و سيتم تنفيذها و إن لم ينجحوا في الخطة رقم واحد فلديهم الخطة البديلة التي روجوا لها عبر الاعلام الممول خليجياً .

الخطة رقم A : دخول لجنة الخبراء المكلفين من الأمم المتحدة للتحقيق بشأن السلاح الكيميائي إلى مناطق

الغوطة الشرقية يستوجب إيقاف جميع العمليات الواسعة و الشاملة التي يقوم بها الجيش العربي السوري في هذه المناطق من أجل تطهيرها و اقتلاع جذور الارهاب منها لحين ما تنتهي لجنة التحقيق من مهماها المكلفة بها بأمر من القيادة العليا السورية على غرار العصابات الاجرامية التي لا تتوقف عن تهريب السلاح و عمليات الاجرام فهم وصلوا بوحشيتهم إلى مرحلة اللاشعور و التي لا يستطيع أحد السيطرة عليهم فالمخدرات أفقدت وعيهم و إن تمت موافتهم على تهدئة الوضع لتسهيل مهمة لجنة التحقيق فهذا دليل يدين المعارضة بأنها هي المسؤول الأول عن إصدار الأوامر بعمليات التفجير و المجازر و الاغتيالات السياسية .

إذاً نستنتج هنا أن استخدام السلاح الكيميائي كان خطة متفق عليها مسبقاً من أجل إيقاف الجيش العربي السوري بعملية تطهير الغوطة لاسعاف العصابات المتمركزة في الغوطة الشرقية حتى لا تنهار هذا أولاً أما ثانياً و هو الأهم أنه للمرة الثانية تحدث عملية كبيرة من أجل تأجيل عملية تطهير الغوطة فالمرة الأولى كانت عندما استهدفت العصابات الاجرامية مخيم اليرموك و هذه هي المرة الثانية التي يتم فيها استبعاد الجيش عن تطهير الغوطة و بأوامر من القيادة العليا بخطة محكمة من أجل تنفيذ عملية كبرى و هذا ما يؤكد أن اللغز يكمن في هذه الغوطة و يرجح بأن يكون هناك نفق و غ رفة عمليات تديرها أجهزة استخبارات دولية تشرف مباشرة على توجيه العصابات الاجرامية و وجود اللجنة هو ليس إلا جدار تحتمي وراءه هذه الأجهزة و يؤمن الطريق لهم لتنفيذ خطتهم و يؤمن مخرجهم بسلام بعد الانتهاء من التنفيذ .

http://www.arabjo.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25510:مفاتيح-لغز-إسقاط-دمشق-موجودة-الغوطة-و-لجنة-التحقيق-أهدافها-في-العلن-غير-أهدافها-في-الباطن-دنيز-نجم&catid=88:اخبار%20سورية&Itemid=90

August 28th, 2013, 12:34 pm

 

revenire said:

It was Israel who provided the “evidence” of the chemical weapons attack. No one but scum believes it happened.

August 28th, 2013, 12:36 pm

 

Syrain said:

303. ZIAD said:

نقلت وكالة “الانباء رويترز” خبراً عن وزير الدفاع الفريق…….
Ziad said that Rutrer said that Sisi of Eygpt has prohibited the American Navy from passing through Suis Canal, then he put a link to some unheard of site
Why don’t you bring the link from Rutrer , or is this bit of news for those who can not speak English only??

August 28th, 2013, 1:05 pm

 

revenire said:

Egypt won’t help destroy an Arab nation, and ally against Israel, to lick Obama and Cameron’s boots. You can but Egypt won’t.

August 28th, 2013, 1:12 pm

 

zoo said:

It is so naive for any country or organization to expect that the Syrian government will accept to go to Geneva for negotiations after having been wrongly accused and humiliated by massive military attack on its own soil.

The strikes on Syria are a dead sentence for Geneva or for any political solution. It is the beginning of a more ferocious war with weapons that until now have not been used.
While France, the UK and the USA live in the illusion that they will bend Bashar Al Assad strong will to defend his country sovereignity, the UN knows very well that it will fail
But the UN has no voice when he hysterical war-mongers keep shouting. Obama will be remembered only as the US president who allowed Syria to become a haven for Islamist and caused the death of hundred of thousands Syria under a false pretext.
Obama, Cameron and Hollande, like Bush are becoming a war criminals.

August 28th, 2013, 1:17 pm

 

omen said:

whatever scale of strike, it should disrupt ongoing seiges:

Western strikes on the evil Syria regime could not have come at a better time. People in besieged Homs have almost run out of food.

August 28th, 2013, 1:19 pm

 

Syrian said:

JUERGEN @247
Thank you,
An extra night acivity at the American bases around Frankfurt would’ve meant an aireal bombing, but if is only in the Frankfurt airport then it is most likely just a cruise missile attack,

August 28th, 2013, 1:23 pm

 

Alan said:

Obama’s War of Choice in Syria Isn’t Defensive or Humanitarian
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-glaser/obamas-war-of-choice-in-s_b_3822652.html

August 28th, 2013, 1:24 pm

 

zoo said:

How does the USA intend to protects civilians from their missile attacks?
Probably it intends to implement a total media censorship on civilian death resulting from the attack as they did in Iraq.
Time have changed. Be sure that Youtube and Internet will be used to show every single civilian killed by the US missiles. The social media will overflow with accusations on the USA and their cronies. The US will loose the propaganda war

Syrian civilians must be protected: Human Rights Watch

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/80191/World/Region/Syrian-civilians-must-be-protected-Human-Rights-Wa.aspx
Laws of war forbidding attacks on civilians must be abided by in case of an international military action in Syria, Human Rights Watch said
AFP , Wednesday 28 Aug 2013

The US-based rights group stressed it was not taking up a position on possible military action, which Washington and other Western powers have hinted was due after alleged poison gas attacks last week near Damascus.

August 28th, 2013, 1:31 pm

 

Syrian said:

SF @302 looking for reasonable doubts, reminded me of Dave Choppele in this clip.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WoLoHP-WRg4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWoLoHP-WRg4#

August 28th, 2013, 1:34 pm

 

omen said:

299. ghufran: Every time I hear daily testimonies from Syrians struggling to get bread and basic necessities for their kids

loyalists refused to acknowledge victims of the regime, concocting bizarre conspiracies that atrocities were staged. the worst was insinuation that dead babies regime gassed were somehow play acting.

yet you dare accuse the opposition of being callous & indifferent?!

August 28th, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen you’re in for a surprise. The SAA will go on a rampage unlike anything so far seen. I wish you could be there to enjoy it.

PS – Luisa Zangh? You mean Rozalina Chomksy don’t you Capt. Omen?

August 28th, 2013, 1:37 pm

 

zoo said:

No country wants a snake in its womb: Paterson is kicked out for her sympathy to the Moslem Brothehood and Ford is rejected as a new US ambassador in Egypt probably for the same reason

David Robert nominated as US ambassador to Egypt

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/80117/Egypt/Politics-/David-Robert-nominated-as-US-ambassador-to-Egypt.aspx

Last month, Ambassador Robert Ford was tipped for the job, but his nomination was condemned by many political and revolutionary figures in Egypt.

August 28th, 2013, 1:38 pm

 

Alan said:

To the Mafia war maniacs in US and UK: No Attack On Syria.!
https://twitter.com/STWuk/status/372772603720499200

China Joins Russia In Warning Syria Strike Would Have “Catastrophic Consequences”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/china-joins-russia-warning-syria-strike-would-have-catastrophic-consequences

August 28th, 2013, 1:39 pm

 

revenire said:

SAA grinding them up in preparation to welcome Obama and Cameron’s cannon fodder.

HOMS:

Tal Kalakh: Once a major route for smuggling weapons and rodents into Syria, it is now a mere killing field where our forces can get live-action target shooting as the vermin pathetically try to negotiate the valleys amidst a crush of SAA and border police. Last Sunday, they tried to infiltrate again from Al-Mat-hooma and Al-Mushayrifa and were slaughtered. No details.

Tal Kalakh: On Monday, 13 rodents surrendered and begged for consideration pursuant to the President’s Amnesty Program. Their names have not been released and they won’t be released.

Baab Hood: East of ‘Abdullah Ibn Mas’ood Mosque, SAA downs 11 rodents and seizes two boxes of ammo for AK47s including a workable 23mm machine gun cannon about to be mounted on a Mitsubishi flatbed.

‘Abbood Hujjayli
Muhammad Saqr
‘Ali Hassoona
‘Abdul-Tawwaab Al-Shuraafi
Muhammad Radhwaan

The remaining 6 are believed to be foreigners and carried no valid id.

Jawrat Al-Shiyyaah and Al-Hameediyya: At the Al-Waleed Complex, a nest of rodents was eliminated and all weapons seized and distributed to our militias and NDF. Total killed: 7 with 2 taken prisoner and wounded.

Sa’eed Rajab
Hassan Kharbatli
Waassef Sharabaat
Ma’moon Su’aydi
Sameeh Za’roor
Mustafaa Abu-Tharwaat
Muhammad Fayyaadh

Al-Wa’ar: At the Al-Birr Hospital. Fighting with no details.

Al-Wa’ar Orchards: A pack of ____* tried to infiltrate on Monday into the Qaraabees Quarter and got their greased slippers to Satan’s tent in the Sun’s Anvil. 14 dead with 8 prisoners. No details.

Al-Hoola area: On Monday, ____* tried to attack a military checkpoint and were massacred by SAA and militia in Al-Taa’oona at the Al-Masaabigh Neighborhood. No details.

Burj Qaa’iy: Fighting with no details.

Jubb Al-Jarraah: Ditto.

Taldu: Wipeout for ____*. According to Wa’el, 16 killed, 8 taken prisoners and lots of weapons seized. These were weapons brought down from the north and appeared to be quite new. THANK YOU, PRINCE BANDOOQ BIN SULTAAN, THE APE OF ARABIA.

Al-Rastan: At the Al-Mahmoud Mosque, a firefight started between rodents and some residents who had been robbed. The police then came in with militia and finished the job. No details about the 5 rodents killed and 6 taken prisoner.

Al-Ghantu: Fighting. Clean-up. 2 killed. No names.

‘Ayn Hussayn: Fighting. No details. Clean-up.

Keesseen: Ditto.

‘Aqraba: A pack of ____* were stopped in a car and questioned. The SAA knew they were carrying weapons in their car by the depression of the shock absorbers. All 3 were arrested.

Talaf: Fighting. No details.

Al-Buraykaat: 12 ____* killed in a firefight near Tadmur (Palmyra). No names.

Orchards southeast of Tadmur, clean-up with 3 ___* killed.

All of Tadmur (Palmyra) is now ___*-free on the East and West sides. Some remnant rodents await expulsion or extermination.

*censored to spare the sensitive feelings of war criminals and baby killers

August 28th, 2013, 1:40 pm

 

zoo said:

Egypt rejects military intervention in Syria
Minister of Foreign Affairs Nabil Fahmy insists political solution in Syria is only way; He also refutes Turkish PM’s statements against Al-Azhar Imam

Ahram Online , Tuesday 27 Aug 2013
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/80081/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-rejects-military-intervention-in-Syria.aspx

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Nabil Fahmy, has stated that Egypt refutes military intervention in Syria, insisting that the only way is a political solution in the war-torn country.

“Egypt rejects military intervention in Syria, as we believe a political solution is the only way out for the crisis there. Egypt supports the Geneva Two talks,” said FM Fahmy in a press conference held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Cairo Tuesday.

“Egypt condemns the use of chemical weapons, not only in Syria. We strongly refute it regardless of whoever uses such weapons against civilians,” said the FM, who added that Egypt is waiting for the results of UN investigations concerning Ghouta’s chemical weapons attack.

“Accountability should be based on accurate information, in order to determine who is responsible for the chemical attack in Ghouta,” said Fahmy. He also stated that Egypt does not support ‘Jihadists’ in Syria.
..
Erdogan made a speech at the University Development Foundation on Sunday in Rize province, where he reportedly condemned what he described as a “military coup” in Egypt, stating that he was “disappointed” to see the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed Al-Tayeb, side with the “coup” leaders.

August 28th, 2013, 1:44 pm

 

revenire said:

Thank you Egypt for standing with Syria against the colonialists and Zionist war criminals.

August 28th, 2013, 1:48 pm

 

omen said:

asma assad pleads for foreign intervention:

[video]

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/372695374177120257

August 28th, 2013, 1:49 pm

 

zoo said:

A US spy caught in the Sinai?

US citizen to be referred to military prosecution in Sinai

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/80170/Egypt/Politics-/US-citizen-to-be-referred-to-military-prosecution-.aspx

A US citizen arrested in North Sinai will be referred to the military prosecution for investigation, the Egyptian state news agency MENA reported Wednesday.

James Henry, 55, a retired officer, was arrested on Al-Arish Road — according to MENA reports — during the curfew currently imposed in 14 Egyptian governorates from 9pm to 6am daily.

Henry was reportedly on his way to Gaza on the Egyptian border, accorting to the source. He lived alone in an apartment in Sheikh Zuwayed town in North Sinai and authorities took posession of documents he held.

August 28th, 2013, 1:49 pm

 

Alan said:

China can hit the US where it hurts the most. Treasury sell off would be catastrophic.

August 28th, 2013, 1:50 pm

 

Ghufran said:

انسحاب مندوبي الصين وروسيا من اجتماع مجلس الأمن بشأن سوريا
– 28/08/2013 – 18:43:16
Russia and china boycott unsc meeting on Syria

August 28th, 2013, 1:55 pm

 

revenire said:

Captain Omen has changed his Twitter name:

“Kill Assad ‏@omen_99 1m
@HannahAllam @StateDept if #cw were supplied by iran, shouldnt u punish the proliferator instead of just the proxy? #syria
https://twitter.com/omen_99

Omen you’re a cartoon.

August 28th, 2013, 1:56 pm

 

zoo said:

Contrary to the propaganda some media like USA Today and others are carrying, Arab leaders do not publicly support a military attack and if they do, thye insist it must be done through a UNSC resolution

Arab Allies Withhold Public Support for U.S. Strike on Syria

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324906304579038910953494966.html

The U.S. is moving toward possible military strikes against Syria without the public support of any major Arab ally, reflecting broad unease in the region about another Western military intervention.
..
During his Tuesday briefing, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney reiterated the President’s confidence that the Syrian government used chemical weapons on August 21. He also said that options for a response do not include regime change.

The lack of public endorsement from Arab governments, even from Saudi Arabia and other countries that have helped arm, train and fund rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leaves the West with little political cover regionally should any Western-led attack go badly.

Arab League delegates on Tuesday urged the United Nations Security Council, rather than the West, to take “deterrent” action against Syria to prevent a repeat of alleged chemical attacks on Aug. 21 in the suburbs of Damascus. In Cairo, Egypt Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy appeared to side against intervention, saying on Tuesday, “The solution for Syria must be diplomatic, not militaristic.”

While senior Saudi officials have been urging the U.S. and others behind the scenes to support tougher action in Syria, Arab leaders for more than a year have publicly maintained that any international military action there should be sanctioned by the U.N. Security Council, where Russia and China have blocked action.

Saudi Arabia—for more than a year the strongest advocate of international action on Syria—has limited its public response to last week’s alleged chemical attack to statements by Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal calling for unspecified, decisive action under the U.N.

A Saudi cabinet statement repeated that position Monday night, after the U.S. made clear it was considering a military strike on Syria.

“Not yet,” a Saudi government spokesman said, when asked if the Saudi government had said whether it would support a military strike on Syria.
Arab leaders, however, for regional political reasons, would think twice before saying in public that they back a Western-led attack on an Arab country, said Mr. Abdullah, the political-science professor at Emirates University in Dubai.

August 28th, 2013, 2:03 pm

 

Alan said:

/Russia and china boycott unsc meeting on Syria/
Have you reached the letter to the war-obsessed monkey?

August 28th, 2013, 2:07 pm

 

Alan said:

CONFIRMED: US Claims Against Syria – There is no Evidence
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/08/cofirmed-us-claims-against-syria-there.html
August 28, 2013 (Tony Cartalucci) – The Wall Street Journal has confirmed what many suspected, that the West’s so-called “evidence” of the latest alleged “chemical attacks” in Syria, pinned on the Syrian government are fabrications spun up from the West’s own dubious intelligence agencies.

The Wall Street Journal reveals that the US is citing claims from Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency fed to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a repeat of the fabrications that led up to the Iraq War, the Libyan War, and have been used now for 3 years to justify continued support of extremists operating within and along Syria’s borders.

Wall Street Journal’s article, “U.S., Allies Prepare to Act as Syria Intelligence Mounts,” states:
One crucial piece of the emerging case came from Israeli spy services, which provided the Central Intelligence Agency with intelligence from inside an elite special Syrian unit that oversees Mr. Assad’s chemical weapons, Arab diplomats said. The intelligence, which the CIA was able to verify, showed that certain types of chemical weapons were moved in advance to the same Damascus suburbs where the attack allegedly took place a week ago, Arab diplomats said.
Both Mossad and the CIA are clearly compromised in terms of objectivity and legitimacy. Neither exists nor is expected to provide impartial evidence, but rather to facilitate by all means necessary the self-serving agendas, interests, and objectives of their respective governments…..

August 28th, 2013, 2:11 pm

 

revenire said:

Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, Germany and Norway have spoken out against any use of force against Syria. Austria blocked its airspace for any air operation related to Syria.

God protect Syria from rape by Obama.

August 28th, 2013, 2:12 pm

 

ghufran said:

اعتبر عضو “الائتلاف المعارض” ورئيسه السابق معاذ الخطيب إنه في حال
حصول التدخل العسكري في سورية فهو لن يوقف نزيف دماء السوريين.
ودعا الخطيب على صفحته على موقع التواصل الاجتماعي “فايس بوك” ما أسماهم بـ “حكماء الثورة السورية” بالتفكير بالمواقف التي ستحصد نتيجة لاستحقاقات التدخل العسكري.
وكتب الخطيب، “التدخل العسكري إن حصل فهو رسالة لعدم استخدام الأسلحة الكيميائية وليس لإيقاف نزيف دماء السوريين”، مشيراً إلى أن الدول لن تسمح بالحسم العسكري لأحد الطرفين.
وأضاف الخطيب، “لا يوجد قرار بإسقاط النظام بل بإنهاك الطرفين”، مؤكداً أنه التدخل العسكري “سيفرض مسار سياسي على الجميع
Moaz likes to take an independent path every time he can, he still believe that only negotiations will end this conflict, I hope he is right, however, keeping Syria in one piece will be harder than stopping the war, Israel is laughing and they have the right to laugh, we proved that we are still Bedouins and nothing changed in the Arab psyche in the last 2000 years.
(Omen, I am rarely rude to anybody, however, you are irrelevant my friend, I see no reason to have a conversation with you)

August 28th, 2013, 2:12 pm

 
 

zoo said:

Now that the USA has made it clear that the attack is not aimed at a ‘regime change”, disappointed Saudi and Qatar now oppose the USA military intervention. It is reflected in the Arab League’s declaration

Arab League opposed to military attack

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/arab-league-opposed-to-military-attack/article5068886.ece

The 22-nation Arab League has opposed a military attack, despite holding “the Syrian regime responsible for this heinous crime” of chemical attack on civilians.

August 28th, 2013, 2:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Where’s all the bootlickers today?

August 28th, 2013, 2:50 pm

 

zoo said:

Saudi Arabia expected that USA will strike Syria strong enough to change ‘the balance of power” in favor of the opposition. That was the result expected from the well funded mediatized “chemical attack”.

Now Saudi Arabia and Qatar are deeply disappointed that the USA has several time repeated that the strikes are not aiming neither at changing the dynamics of the war nor to at a regime change. Its intent is to just cripple Syria’s capabilities of using chemical weapons.
Moreover Saudi Arabia and Qatar are horrified by the emerging request for a UNSC resolution to allow any military attack.
They now have to quickly change their strategy and come up with new traps as the pressure on the opposition to accept inconditionaly to go to Geneva II is growing.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/8/29/politics/un-powers-begin-syria-talks

Saudi Arabia for months has been the most active country behind the scenes in pushing for tougher international action on Syria. Several Saudi and Gulf security and political analysts on Tuesday and Wednesday identified Saudi Arabia as the Arab country most likely to volunteer assistance to an international military coalition against Syria, if the mission were to broaden to trying to weaken the Assad regime.

Weakening the regime – rather than a more limited strike against any alleged Syrian capability for chemical weapons – is the “preferred and expected” option among Saudis, said Mustafa Alani, a veteran Saudi security analyst who is director of defense and security studies at the Gulf Research Center.

August 28th, 2013, 2:57 pm

 

zoo said:

Thursday they said?
As usual, Europe divided and confusion about what to do. In despair they demand the UNSC approval for military strikes.

UN security council fails to agree on Syria action

Colin Randall
Aug 29, 2013
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/un-security-council-fails-to-agree-on-syria-action

MARSEILLE, FRANCE // Western diplomatic pressure for military action against Bashar Al Assad’s Syrian regime moved to the United Nations yesterday as a British-sponsored motion urged approval of “necessary measures to protect civilians”.

The five permanent members of the UN Security Council failed to reach an agreement on the motion that would authorise the use of military force against Syria. After the ambassadors met for a couple of hours at UN headquarters, the draft resolution was sent back to their governments for consultations, according to a Western diplomat.

The draft resolution had already faced a stiff test from two of the UN Security Council’s five permanent members, Russia and China.

General Lord Dannatt, the former head of the British army, spoke of a risk that western strikes would lead to unwanted consequences. He told the BBC: “Although undoubtedly, by any moral standards at all, using chemical weapons against your own people – which is what on the balance of probabilities it now seems Assad has done – [is wrong], this does not constitute an open invitation for the international community to impose themselves on the internal affairs of another country.”
…But Britain’s opposition Labour party may make UN approval a condition of its support for the coalition government when parliament is recalled to vote on the crisis today.

August 28th, 2013, 3:09 pm

 

Tara said:

Why did the US, Britain, and France bothered with the UNSC? We all knew in advance what was going to happen. Suzan Rice been there and done that. Was it just a matter of formality? Why was it important to bother? Even before Obama presented his case and evidence to American public?

Why did they leak Thursday when no one is ready?

August 28th, 2013, 3:35 pm

 
 

SimoHurtta said:

325. revenire said:

Captain Omen has changed his Twitter name:

“Kill Assad ‏@omen_99 1m
@HannahAllam @StateDept if #cw were supplied by iran, shouldnt u punish the proliferator instead of just the proxy? #syria
https://twitter.com/omen_99”

Omen you’re a cartoon.

Once when I criticized here Omen’s numerous and rather naive comments and her/his unhealthy lively activity for Californian.nonMuslim.nonSyrian on Twitter, she/he changed her/his Twitter name to something like Simo + hearth symbol and kept that name for one day. 🙂

When a outsider who provably enjoys enormously of the action, killing, cruel pictures and videos etc around Syria so much, that she/he is ready to use most of day (24h) for hanging on Twitter and discussions forums spreading all possible rumours and even obvious propaganda, one can ask what is the motivation in that. Choosing a name like Kill Assad (= @omen_99) shows that the person is no human rights or peace activist. The question is what is she/he?

August 28th, 2013, 3:53 pm

 

Alan said:

Dear Mr Putin!

British SAS Troops Already Deployed in Syria, Ahead of Parliamentary Vote on Thursday

British special forces have already been deployed in Syria to clear the path for a missile strike to take place possible over this coming weekend

The UK’s Mirror newspaper has already let loose that British SAS special forces have already been deployed in Syria to take out Syrian air defense unit and also to provide laser spotting for Tomahawk cruise missile targets which will be fired from British Navy’s nuclear submarine HMS Tireless, already repositioned in the Mediterranean.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/08/28/british-sas-troops-already-deployed-in-syria-ahead-of-parliamentary-vote-on-thursday/

August 28th, 2013, 3:54 pm

 

Juergen said:

Stephens: Target Assad A strike directed straight at the Syrian dictator and his family is the only military option that could hasten the end of the civil war.

Should President Obama decide to order a military strike against Syria, his main order of business must be to kill Bashar Assad. Also, Bashar’s brother and principal henchman, Maher. Also, everyone else in the Assad family with a claim on political power. Also, all of the political symbols of the Assad family’s power, including all of their official or unofficial residences. The use of chemical weapons against one’s own citizens plumbs depths of barbarity matched in recent history only by Saddam Hussein. A civilized world cannot tolerate it. It must demonstrate that the penalty for it will be acutely personal and inescapably fatal.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323407104579036740023927518.html#

August 28th, 2013, 3:59 pm

 

Syria Intervention? (Joshua Landis — Syria Comment) | jewish philosophy place said:

[…] Landis at Syria Comment. It’s the most sensible thing I’ve seen so far. You can find it here, but I’m going to post the entire piece […]

August 28th, 2013, 3:59 pm

 

Alan said:

Investigative journalists inside Georgia and the region have traced shipments of chemical weapons to American controlled sources in the region.
The weapons from Georgia are being deployed by US backed Al Qaeda terrorists.
Journalists, have discovered clandestine WMD operations at the US controlled Central Reference Laboratory.
Additionally, at the same facility, now controlled by the US government under cover of a “disarmament aid” program, new strains of deadly viruses are now also being reported as being weaponized and distributed to terrorist organizations.

August 28th, 2013, 4:11 pm

 

Alan said:

Military Missteps: Bomb-first diplomacy becomes habitual to US
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/military-missteps-bomb-first-diplomacy-becomes-habitual-to-us/#VDwoLq3j7jrLkPZR.99
CrossTalk: Destroying Syria
http://youtu.be/kSHH6YFLaXs

August 28th, 2013, 4:15 pm

 

revenire said:

SIMOHURTTA to me Omen is a clownish sort of character who has little life outside of Twitter. He has achieved nearly 50,000 tweets. This is probably close to a record. It was pretty funny to see him suggest the US should also attack Iran. The guy suffers from some kind of sickness.

August 28th, 2013, 4:23 pm

 

Observer said:

Michel Kilo today

ثمة جواب بسيط ومباشر عن هذا السؤال هو باختصار: لأن الإجرام هو جوهر وروح النظام الأسدي، الذي حكم سوريا بمعادلة قالت بكل صراحة: أحكمكم أو أقتلكم. واليوم، وبما أن الأسدية لم تعد قادرة على حكمهم، فإنها تقتلهم. هذا الجواب لا يمكن أن يشكك في صحته إنسان يتابع ما جرى في سوريا منذ خمسين عاما إلى اليوم، رأى خلالها كيف رفض قادة نظامها إجراء أي مراجعة لسياساتهم الأمنية/ العسكرية، رغم اتضاح خطئها وقصورها عن معالجة الواقع منذ بدء انتفاضة الشعب السوري منتصف شهر مارس (آذار) من عام 2011. تمسك قادة السلطة بإجرام الأسدية لأنه يعبر عن طبيعتهم، والدليل ما قدمه هؤلاء من دعم مطلق لبشار بدل الانقلاب عليه، وتأييد نهجه الانتحاري عوض العمل على تغييره بما لديهم من خبرة في الحكم، وما يلاحظونه من اختلاف بين الثورة وأي وضع سبق للنظام أن واجهه قبلها. سار هؤلاء وراء رئيسهم الأحمق دون اعتراض أو تردد، وها هم يواصلون سيرهم وراءه نحو الهاوية، رغم أنهم تولوا السلطة قبل ولادته بزمن طويل، وتعاملوا خلال خمسين عاما مع ملابسات الواقع السوري ومشكلاته.

إلى ما سبق، هناك أيضا جواب غير مباشر يتعلق بالوضع الراهن الذي بلغه الصراع ضد الأسدية، التي بادرت قبل ثلاثة أشهر إلى شن هجومها الاستراتيجي الخامس ضد الشعب والجيش الحر، وسط تطبيل إعلامها وتزميره، وإطلاق حملة من الأكاذيب حولته إلى انتصار مفصلي سيقلب الأمور رأسا على عقب، بدءا من سقوط القصير، مرورا باستكمال الحشد العسكري الكبير حول حمص، وصولا إلى إسقاط المدينة البطلة ومن ثم تطويق جبل الزاوية واستعادة دير الزور وحلب بمعونة حزب الله. هذه الحسبة لم تتحقق، في حين انقلب السحر على الساحر بعد هزائم النظام في خان العسل ومطار منغ العسكري والساحل، وبروز ظاهرة أرعبت النظام هي انهيار غير مسبوق في مستوى جيشه القيادي، الذي بقي متماسكا طيلة عامي الصراع وأبقى الجيش موحدا. في خان العسل ومنغ والساحل، فر الضباط قبل الجنود، وبدا أن مرحلة جديدة تنشأ، تؤذن باحتمال وقوع انهيار سريع ومباغت في النظام نفسه.

أمام هذا الاحتمال، فكر من يتولون إدارة الحرب ضد الشعب بضربة تفضي بالأحرى إلى انهيار المجتمع الثائر في منطقة دمشق، على أن تكون قوية إلى درجة تؤدي لانهيار الجيش الحر نفسه، وبالتالي إلى إطالة عمر النظام وإعطائه ما يكفي من وقت لترميم معنويات ضباطه المحطمة. يفسر هذا همجية الضربة، التي تقول معلومات أتت من الداخل أن عدد ضحاياها قد يصل إلى عشرة آلاف ضحية، وتؤكد أنها قضت بالفعل على جزء مهم من مجتمع الغوطتين، جعل النظام إبادته ضروريا لنجاح هجوم عام ضد الجيش الحر، يستعيد الغوطة الشرقية بصورة خاصة، التي ظلت عصية على الإخضاع رغم تجويعها المنهجي طيلة قرابة تسعة أشهر، ويقضي على من حرروها ويمثل حضورهم فيها تهديدا للنظام، تزيده خطورة وراهنية ظاهرة انهيار معنويات وأداء ضباطه.

لم تفض الجريمة إلى انهيار مجتمع الغوطتين، رغم ما ألحقته من خسائر جسيمة بالسكان وببعض وحدات الجيش الحر المرابطة في دوما ومنطقتها بصورة خاصة، وبطواقم الخدمات الطبية والإغاثية، التي اتهمها الروس بشن الضربة الكيماوية (ربما فعلت ذلك للقضاء على نفسها ولإبادة حاضنتها الشعبية!). لقد أظهر الشعب تماسكا مذهلا وقدرة خارقة على تحمل الألم والخسائر، بينما ذهل العالم بأسره من طابع الضربة الانتحاري، الذي ستكون له نتائج وخيمة على النظام، أقله لأنها ستجبر المعارضة على تصحيح أخطاء تراكمت لم يفد أحد منها غير السلطة، يعني تصحيحا إجبار الخارج على مراجعة حساباته ومواجهة جرائم الأسدية، التي أثارت الرعب في المنطقة برمتها، وأكدت أن مخاطرها تتجاوزها إلى العالم وأنها تهدد أمنه وسلامه.

لن تفضي جريمة الغوطتين إلى وقف انهيار حلقة النظام القيادية، ويرجح أن تلعب دورا حقيقيا في تسريعه. هذا ما أظهره تهافت هجوم الجيش الأسدي على المنطقة، بعد قصفها بالسلاح المحرم دوليا.

تقرب هذه الجريمة المروعة سوريا من لحظة حسم صار مؤكدا أنها ستنتهي بسقوط الأسدية وانتصار الشعب، وأن هذه النتيجة ستتحقق من الآن فصاعدا بيد السوريين، وأنها تصير أكثر فأكثر في متناول أيديهم!

Sorry to post it in full but is worth reading

August 28th, 2013, 4:25 pm

 

zoo said:

Military strikes seem imminent as the Geneva conference

Any UK military action over Syria will require a further vote of the House of Commons after the UN experts report back.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/29/mps-vote-any-uk-syria-action

Britain won’t take military action against the Syrian regime before United Nations inspectors report back on evidence of chemical weapons attacks.

MPs are due to vote on Britain’s response to the attacks on Thursday but any military action will require a further vote of parliament’s House of Commons after the UN experts report back, according to a parliamentary motion.

The UN Security Council, of which Britain is a permanent member, should be immediately briefed as soon as the inspections are complete and then “every effort” should be made to secure a resolution from the Security Council backing military action, the motion says.

“The United Nations Security Council must have the opportunity immediately to consider that briefing and that every effort should be made to secure a Security Council Resolution backing military action before any such action is taken,” it stated.

“Before any direct British involvement in such action a further vote of the House of Commons will take place.”

August 28th, 2013, 4:28 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Right after the massacre using internationally banned chemical weapons chemical assad murders more syrians using yet another internationally banned incendiary weapons

August 28th, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

annie said:

08/28/2013

Reuters:

President Bashar al-Assad’s forces appear to have evacuated most personnel from army and security command headquarters in central Damascus in preparation for a Western military strike, residents and opposition sources said on Wednesday.

Among the buildings that have been partially evacuated are the General Staff Command Building on Umayyad Square, the nearby airforce command and the security compounds in the Western Kfar Souseh districts, residents of the area and a Free Syrian Army rebel source said.

Syrian military authorities do not discuss troop movements publicly, and no government spokesman was available for comment.

Brigadier General Mustafa al-Sheikh, a senior military defector, said from an undisclosed location in Syria that based on Free Syrian Army intelligence gatherings, the general staff command had been moved to an alternative compound in the foothills of the Anti-Lebanon Mountains north of Damascus.

“Various commands are being moved to schools and underground bunkers. But I am not sure it is going to do much good for the regime,” Sheikh said.

Another resident who lives at the foothills of Qasioun, the mountain in the middle of the city in which elite praetorian guard units are based, said the boom of artillery, usually heard daily form the 105th battalion of the Republican Guards, had fallen silent on Wednesday.

August 28th, 2013, 4:35 pm

 

zoo said:

Don’t blame the mess on Nobel Peace Obama, blame it on the ‘unnamed US officials”

‘War on chemical weapons’: Obama traps himself into Syrian combat

by Pepe Escobar
http://rt.com/op-edge/war-chemical-weapons-obama-syria-120/

Only a few days before the 12th anniversary of 9/11, Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama might be fighting side by side with… al-Qaeda, as he was foolish enough to be trapped by his own rhetoric on Syria.

The dogs of war bark and the caravan… is Tomahawked. Amid out-of-control hysteria, the proverbial “unnamed US officials” spin like demented centrifuges.

Obama’s “kinetic operation” on Syria will fall out of the sky “in the next few days.” It will be “limited,” lasting only “three days,” or “no more than two days.” It will “send a message,” a “short, sharp attack” against less than 50 sites on a list of targets.

But then long-range bombers may “possibly” join the Tomahawk barrage, and all bets are off.

A proverbial, anonymous “senior administration official” even stressed the “desire to get it done before the president leaves for Russia next week.”

That’s it; we bomb a country like dialing a pizza delivery, and then we go to a G20 summit with the world’s emerging powers hosted by no less than Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin. Just because we need to prove that the president of the United States meant what he said: chemical weapons are a red line. And to hell who’s responsible for deploying them.

August 28th, 2013, 4:36 pm

 

Alan said:

‘War on chemical weapons’: Obama traps himself into Syrian combat
http://rt.com/op-edge/war-chemical-weapons-obama-syria-120/

nly a few days before the 12th anniversary of 9/11, Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama might be fighting side by side with… al-Qaeda, as he was foolish enough to be trapped by his own rhetoric on Syria.

The dogs of war bark and the caravan… is Tomahawked. Amid out-of-control hysteria, the proverbial “unnamed US officials” spin like demented centrifuges.

Obama’s “kinetic operation” on Syria will fall out of the sky “in the next few days.” It will be “limited,” lasting only “three days,” or “no more than two days.” It will “send a message,” a “short, sharp attack” against less than 50 sites on a list of targets.

But then long-range bombers may “possibly” join the Tomahawk barrage, and all bets are off.

A proverbial, anonymous “senior administration official” even stressed the “desire to get it done before the president leaves for Russia next week.”

That’s it; we bomb a country like dialing a pizza delivery, and then we go to a G20 summit with the world’s emerging powers hosted by no less than Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin. Just because we need to prove that the president of the United States meant what he said: chemical weapons are a red line. And to hell who’s responsible for deploying them.

I’m not making this up. This is the core of White House spokesman Jay Carney’s message, when he said, in faultless Newspeak: “The options that are being considered do not contain within them a regime change focus.”

So the administration of “constitutional lawyer” Barack Obama is mulling how to attack Syria, bypassing the UN Security Council – which will veto, via Russia and China, the new resolution proposed by the UK; bypassing always-docile NATO; and with 91 percent of Americans against it, just to send an (explosive) political message. And all because a US president was foolish enough to get trapped in his own rhetoric.

August 28th, 2013, 4:37 pm

 

zoo said:

#349 Annie

Well planned, they seem to have much more time to get ready for the promised strikes. I wouldn’t expect less from the smart and heroic Syrian army.

August 28th, 2013, 4:39 pm

 

Tara said:

Annie,

Now that the command and control headquarters are evacuated and in chaos, the FSA should use up the opportunities to liberate Damacuscand destroy all those places.

August 28th, 2013, 4:44 pm

 

zoo said:

Has Turkey’s aggressive policy toward Syria effectively weaken Turkey’s supposedly booming economy or is it a just a coincidence?

Why has Turkey failed to stop lira’s fall?
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=60965

Turkish lira falls further against dollar, despite assurances by central bank and amid tension over Syria.

The prospect of war in neighbouring Syria is also weighing on sentiment.

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said in remarks published on Monday that Turkey would join an international coalition against Syria even if the UN Security Council failed to reach a consensus.

Turkey — the second biggest military force in NATO — shares a 910-kilometre (560-mile) border with Syria and has taken in around 500,000 refugees from the conflict.

Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan on Tuesday dismissed the concerns and said Ankara’s involvement in an anti-Syria coalition would not have a “direct impact” on the Turkish economy.

Turkey is being battered by an exodus of capital from emerging economies in Asia, Latin America, Russia and South Africa as investors pull out some funds after signals of a tightening of US monetary policy.

But analysts say its economy is fragile because of its dependence on credit and the wide current account deficit that has financed with short-term foreign funding

August 28th, 2013, 4:48 pm

 

zoo said:

While the USA is scrambling to find legal justification for the strikes, UN repeats that there is no way around it, the law that deals with attacking a sovereign country part of the UN is clear.

Brahimi says UNSC has to clear action
August 29, 2013

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/bcd7faec-36f1-496e-9263-0af3dbb15baf.aspx
GENEVA: The UN-Arab League special envoy for Syria said on Wednesday that international military action in the country cannot go ahead without approval by the UN Security Council.

“I think international law is clear on this. International law says that military action must be taken after a decision by the Security Council,” Lakhdar Brahimi told reporters in Gen

August 28th, 2013, 4:51 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is from CNN comment section after CNN became the American version of aljazeera:
EyeOpener1
• 12 hours ago

How To Intervene In A Foreign Country
————————————————–
1) Discover, contact and support anti-state elements in the target country.
2) Fund and train them to start peaceful protests.
3) Slowly turn them more violent.
4) Once the government interferes forcefully, give it full media coverage.
5) Start propaganda against the regime all over the world.
6) Provide anti-state elements with weapons to start a countrywide revolt.
7) If they are losing, provide them chemical weapons to use on children and women.
8) Make accusations the regime is using chemical weapons against its own people.
9) Send UN inspectors there; but make sure they don’t complete their work.
10) Contact like-minded countries and prepare for a military intervention.

this is from SC comments section:
“Now that the command and control headquarters are evacuated and in chaos, the FSA should use up the opportunities to liberate Damacuscand destroy all those places”

🙂 I am sure the rebels are on their way to “liberate” Damascus.

let us hope that Obama is not as fake as some people think he is and that he will push the rebels to accept Geneva 2 after he shows the world that he can bomb Damascus !!

August 28th, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

Alan said:

with the US policy in 10 years, most people in the world will be refugees !!!

Syria: western military intervention will be catastrophic like in Iraq
http://youtu.be/t4cesdMt7vo?t=4s

August 28th, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

zoo said:

Finally someone dares telling the US administration that its policy toward Syria is infantile.

Gingrich slams ‘naive’ Kerry, GOP ‘elitists,’ for pushing war in Syria
..
“What will American missiles accomplish?” Gingrich asked, echoing a question many are asking. “Doing something that feels good isn’t the same as doing something good,” said Gingrich.

He also mocked Kerry’s effort to pressure Russian President Vladimir Putin to stop siding with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

“Secretary of State John Kerry’s effort this week to ‘shame’ the Russian government is embarrassingly naive. Putin was a senior KGB officer. He can’t be shamed,” said Gingrich.

He concluded: “It’s time for the American people to put limits on the elites’ foreign policy adventures.”

August 28th, 2013, 4:58 pm

 

Tara said:

I agree with WSJ. Bomb Bashar, Maher, Makhlouf, and Shalish and any family membrer that may have political aspiration, his inner criccles, the defense minister and all the security heads, the chemical weapon storage, and call it the day.

August 28th, 2013, 4:59 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria: Cameron forced to drop timetable for strikes by Miliband

Ed Miliband forced David Cameron to abandon his timetable for military action against Syria tonight after threatening to vote against the plan in the Commons, Labour sources said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10272339/Syria-Cameron-forced-to-drop-timetable-for-strikes-by-Miliband.html

August 28th, 2013, 5:00 pm

 

revenire said:

Looks like, for the moment, Britain has been checked.

If Obama does not bomb Syria this will be a huge, huge win for the Syrian nation.

God bless Syria and the Syrian people.

August 28th, 2013, 5:02 pm

 

Ali said:

Report to duty – starting my shift

Focus points for the day

1- Thank you Egypt
2- Russia and China are in full support to Damascus
3- Thank you Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Norway, and Austria
4- bootlicker Tara is a military analyst
5- bootlicker Dr. Death is having continuous wet dreams on the idea of killing Syrians
6- Ghufarn still suffering an identity crisis (you can’t be alawi/sunni at the same time)

August 28th, 2013, 5:04 pm

 

zoo said:

It sounds just like the drums about the removal of the EU arms embargo that France and UK fought so much for to decide afterwards they did not want to send ams to the rebels.
Heavy sedative have been prepared by Saudi Arabia for Jarba and Idriss to overcome their looming depression at that second treason

Syria crisis: British bombing on hold as David Cameron bows to pressure to step back from brink
28 Aug 2013 21:29

The climbdown came after Ed Miliband refused to back immediate military action and left Mr Cameron facing defeat in the Commons vote

Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/syria-crisis-british-bombing-hold-2234647#ixzz2dIeWsduR

August 28th, 2013, 5:05 pm

 

revenire said:

Even if Obama does bomb Assad has stood against the US and colonial powers and not bowed.

HUGE VICTORY FOR SYRIA.

August 28th, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

Ali said:

So instead of sending in some trained elite forces to take out the head(s) of the snake, the terrorists allies white masters decided to bomb the civilians.

Unfortunately, we did not have much time or resources to move the political prisoners from the underneath of the potential “targets”, I hope these “freedom” seekers enjoy the freedom version of Uncle Sam. I’m talking here about at least 30,000 to 40,000 outlaws imprisoned underneath security branches.

August 28th, 2013, 5:10 pm

 

Alan said:

Dear Mr Putin:
They say that your Silence on Syria means Signals Resignation on Attack!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/world/middleeast/putin-on-syria.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesworld

August 28th, 2013, 5:10 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

search this one

عالوعد .. بسقيك يا كمون ..

It is an Iraqi saying. And it is happening in front of our eyes.
attack or no attack … you’r screwed.

August 28th, 2013, 5:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Reve

“If Obama does not bomb Syria this will be a huge, huge win for the Syrian nation.”

It will be a huge and hopefully knock out blow to the opposition while Bandar Al Sultan will still be working out new plots before the Geneva conference in October.
It will also be a huge loss of credibility for Obama abroad but in the US he will be hailed by 60% of the American as a wise man, worth the Nobel peace award.

August 28th, 2013, 5:13 pm

 

Alan said:

How did “speculation” about chemical weapons morph into a potential US strike against Syria
@snarwani
“Bandar ibn Israel”
http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/sandbox/bandar-ibn-israel

August 28th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 
 

Alan said:

British political rows could delay military action against Syria
Facing strong opposition in the UK parliament, military action against the Syrian regime over the alleged use of chemical weapons could be delayed until next Tuesday.
http://rt.com/news/syria-military-action-delay-129/

August 28th, 2013, 5:20 pm

 

Ali said:

Your master Uncle Sam is fully communicating the list of potential “targets” with the Syrian government via the Syrian embassy in Jordan.

There are some targets like the main rubbish dump in Damascus with the cover of having some chemical labs in it, the empty wide land in Qudsaya with the cover of attacking 4th brigade, and attacking some already destroyed scientific institutes around Damascus.

So your white lord is promising you the moon while fully coordinating with his almighty al-ASSAD

August 28th, 2013, 5:21 pm

 

Alan said:

Simply firing cruise missiles at a handful of non-essential targets – and they have to be non-essential, since the Obama Admin has already declared that they do not intend to “change the balance of power”… what kind of idiocy is that?

August 28th, 2013, 5:27 pm

 

zoo said:

Experts: The US has no legal justification to attack Syria without a UNSC resolution. Yet the USA has once ignored the law in the Kosovo conflict and has intervened to protect civilians. Will Obama do this again in a much more risky and unclear situation?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=216538245&ft=1&f=1009

August 28th, 2013, 5:31 pm

 

zoo said:

#373# Alan

A feel-good idiocy

August 28th, 2013, 5:32 pm

 

Ali said:

Screwed either way!!

IF your white Uncle Sam lord attacks the already “Agreed-On” list of targets, then after few days al-ASSAD will emerge victorious, stronger and more determined with massive support from nations and countries around the world.

But If your white Uncle Sam lord does NOT attack Syria, then still al-ASSAD will emerge victorious, stronger and more determined with massive support from nations and countries around the world.

دام عزك يا اسد

August 28th, 2013, 5:33 pm

 
 

Alan said:

What standard did the Administration use to determine that this scope of chemical weapons use warrants potential military action?
Does the Administration consider such a response to be precedent-setting, should further humanitarian atrocities occur?
What result is the Administration seeking from its response?
What is the intended effect of the potential military strikes?
If potential strikes do not have the intended effect, will further strikes be conducted?
Would the sole purpose of a potential strike be to send a warning to the Assad regime about the use of chemical weapons? Or would a potential strike be intended to help shift the security momentum away from the regime and toward the opposition?
If it remains unclear whether the strikes compel the Assad regime to renounce and stop the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people, or if President Assad escalates their usage, will the Administration contemplate escalatory military action?
Will your Administration conduct strikes if chemical weapons are utilized on a smaller scale?
Would you consider using the United States military to respond to situations or scenarios that do not directly involve the use or transfer of chemical weapons?
Assuming the targets of potential military strikes are restricted to the Assad inner circle and military leadership, does the Administration have contingency plans in case the strikes disrupt or throw into confusion the command and control of the regime’s weapons stocks?
Does the Administration have contingency plans if the momentum does shift away from the regime but toward terrorist organizations fighting to gain and maintain control of territory?
Does the Administration have contingency plans to deter or respond should Assad retaliate against U.S. interests or allies in the region?
Does the Administration have contingency plans should the strikes implicate foreign power interests, such as Iran or Russia?
Does the Administration intend to submit a supplemental appropriations request to Congress, should the scope and duration of the potential military strikes exceed the initial planning?
House Speaker John Boehner

August 28th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Alan I think Obama doesn’t know what to do so save his mercenaries. He needed a reason to intervene and this Israeli generated false flag attack gave him one. Bombing a few targets, over a few days, will do little. If they attacked all I believe Iran and Hezbollah would enter the war in a big way.

The other thing is that now the world sees the US has zero evidence and what they do have came from Israel. That fact has been reported in every news organ throughout the entire world. The Zionists claimed they were not involved but now you can see the frenzy they are in for the US to attack Syria.

Zoo an amazing report from CNN showing Damascus. Those are the real Syrians not these bootlickers, and beggars, we see here.

I dare Obama to attack. I demand he attack now. Be a man for once in your miserable life Obama.

God is watching over Syria.

August 28th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

Syrialover said:

OBSERVER #221

I agree, it’s kind of fascinating to watch Syrianhaters ZOO, REVENIRE, ALI, ALAN and co do their frenzied grotesque dances of distraction and threat in support of Assad.

Their key belief and values in common with the Assads is a hatred and contempt for the people of Syria.

It glares through in every post they put here.

August 28th, 2013, 5:44 pm

 

Alan said:

REVENIRE
/Bombing a few targets, over a few days/
Is it a PlayStation game? LLLLOOLLLLlllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
what kind of human being he is ?

August 28th, 2013, 5:50 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
I agree that if Obama does not strike Assad it will be a huge win for Assad,after all this talk and preparation.
I also agree that if Assad survived unscathed,with minor damage , it will be a win to Assad.
You must agree after these two statements that the strike has to be strong and devastating to Assad regime

August 28th, 2013, 5:50 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed even if Obama bombs Syria it will be a victory for Syria and Syrians. They’ve withstood almost three years of this war.

If I were Obama I’d apologize, make reparation payments to Syria, turn myself into the ICC for prosecution for war crimes and beg forgiveness from God.

You should also admit you are wrong and come back into the human family. You are bitter but what happened is not the fault of the Syrian government. The Syrian government is the protector.

August 28th, 2013, 5:57 pm

 

revenire said:

Alan Obama has no heart. He lets his own people suffer under a brutal Wall St. dictatorship. Money goes for wars and the rich while the poor die in the streets in America.

August 28th, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

Ziad said:

“Bandar ibn Israel”

Bandar ibn Israel: a terror Frankenstein

Chechen jihadis have, of course, turned up in Syria to fight alongside their brethren from dozens of other countries against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the past two years.

The Saudi links go beyond jihadis though. Seventeen months ago in Homs – and barely a month after the battle over Baba Amr – 24 Syrian rebels groups sent an email to the externally-based Syrian National Council, complaining about the rogue behavior of the Saudi-funded Al Farouq Battalion. This is the group to which the infamous lung-eating Syrian rebel once belonged.

Alleging that Al Farouq was responsible for killing at least five rebels and fomenting violence against civilians and other fighters, the group wrote:

“The basis of the crisis in the city today is groups receiving uneven amounts of money from direct sources in Saudi Arabia some of whom are urging the targeting of loyalist neighborhoods and sectarian escalation while others are inciting against the SNC.
They are not national, unifying sources of support. On the contrary, mature field leaders have noted that receiving aid from them [Saudi Arabia] entails implicit conditions like working in ways other than the desired direction.”

In a reprisal of his role in Afghanistan where he helped the CIA arm the Mujahedeen – who later came to form the backbone of the Taliban and Al Qaeda – Bandar is now throwing funding, weapons and training at the very same kinds of Islamist militants who are establishing an extreme version of Sharia law in territories they hold inside Syria.

Says an analyst at a Beirut-based think tank:

“These fighters, many of whom are ideologically aligned with Al Qaeda, are much more pragmatic today. They are ready to take funding, facilities and arms from the Saudis (who previously they targeted). There is no concept of a main enemy – it could be the US, Russians, Iranians, Saudis, Muslim Brotherhood. Their only priority is to use the new situation of instability in the region to form a core territorial base. They now think in Syria they have a real opportunity to regenerate Al Qaeda that they didn’t have since their defeat in Iraq. In the Sinai too. Through a central Syrian base they are ready to converge with other regional actors from which they will move into Lebanon, Iraq and other places.”

“Some of them know Bandar for a long time,” says the analyst. “There have always been Saudi intelligence officers dedicated to oversee jihadist groups in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kashmir, Chechnya.”

http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/sandbox/bandar-ibn-israel

August 28th, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

Ali said:

Obama is about to give a speech.

They say he will pass the “Launch-Attack” coded message within his speech.

August 28th, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover it is not we who are calling for a Zionist attack on the homeland. It is you. I know you are a bootlicker crawling and begging for someone to attack Syria. You know it too.

August 28th, 2013, 5:59 pm

 

Ali said:

Dr. Death,

“You must agree after these two statements that the strike has to be strong and devastating to Assad regime”

Another wet dream of your, man wake up. The West has taken you for a long ride.

Just after the per-arranged attack, the West will drag the opposition head-down to Geneva2.

August 28th, 2013, 6:01 pm

 

Alan said:

War maniacs!
Lick your sputum for as long as it is not too late!
Military strikes on Syria ‘as early as Thursday,’ US officials say

August 28th, 2013, 6:01 pm

 

Syrialover said:

We’re watching REVENIRE increasingly resort to the cheapest and most meaningless card in the pack , the term “Zionist”.

Straight from the regime’s dumb propaganda handbook. Time they upgraded it, but they lack the skills and brainpower.

August 28th, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

revenire said:

Obama just did an interview: No decision to attack yet.

LOL

What a coward.

C’mon Obama start the war.

August 28th, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover it was ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE that provided “proof” of this chemical weapon attack.

Unnamed US And Israeli Officials Say Intercepted Syrian Communications Prove Chemical Attack — UK Officials Draft UN Strike Resolution
http://www.businessinsider.com/reports-that-us-and-israel-have-proof-of-syria-attack-2013-8

Israeli intelligence ‘intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack’
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces’ 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk

Go ahead, refute it and look even more stupid – if that is possible.

August 28th, 2013, 6:09 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE barks again and again:

“C’mon Obama start the war.”

Spoken like a true cowardly couch sitter safe and free in the west.

August 28th, 2013, 6:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Under international law, the use of force is permitted in only three circumstances: self-defense (whether true self-defense or preemptive self-defense), in a declared war, and pursuant to a United Nations Security Council resolution under Article VII of the UN Charter.

Obama = war criminal

The world knows the truth. Only a few bootlickers say otherwise.

August 28th, 2013, 6:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover come on. Fire up the Tomahawks. Dr. Stranglove baby! Ride them into Damascus!!

Don’t you want to see your baby killing cannibals take power?

August 28th, 2013, 6:14 pm

 

Alan said:

Bombing Syria would make US pilots ‘Al-Qaeda’s air force’ – Kucinich
LOL
http://rt.com/usa/us-syria-al-qaeda-092/

August 28th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

Ali said:

Syrialover

You don’t know how much I’d love to know where can I find your family in Syria?

August 28th, 2013, 6:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Hesitant, confused, tired, Obama looks totally lost
Obama: ‘I Have Not Made a Decision’ on Syria

Interview: if…..

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/08/obama-i-have-not-made-a-decision-on-syria.html

August 28th, 2013, 6:18 pm

 

Alan said:

The U.S. Senate! Calm down a monkey holding a grenade please! it must be stopped!

August 28th, 2013, 6:20 pm

 

Ali said:

Obama ‘yet to make final decision’ on Syria strikes

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/obama-yet-to-make-final-decision-on-syria-strikes-604986.html

He’s busy drawing another line but still can’t decide on the color

C’mon man up and come to face al-ASSAD

اصابيع البببوبو يا خيار

August 28th, 2013, 6:22 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
I have been against Assad long before my brother was murdered by the regime.
Assad is begging, it is not Obama who should appologize, Assad is appologizing.
Can you explain how devastating strike against Assad regime paralizing the airforce,killing his mafia army , how can we say he is winning?

August 28th, 2013, 6:23 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover come back. The missile attack is starting in a few weeks. Don’t you want to gloat?

August 28th, 2013, 6:26 pm

 

zoo said:

Oh! maybe it’s next Thursday then? Where are the ‘unnamed US officials” who said it was this Thursday?

French parliament to meet next Wednesday to discuss Syria crisis
Aug 29,2013

August 28th, 2013, 6:27 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed you left Syria when and under what circumstances?

August 28th, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

Ali said:

Klaket for 8th time – American intervention in Syria – Fail again

Suddenly SC is very quiet shhhhhhhhhhhhh, someone to pass some tissues to the opposition.

August 28th, 2013, 6:30 pm

 

zoo said:

#401 Majed

Obama seems to be looking for an excuse to avoid having to order the attack.
If France or the UK backtrack, he will too. Next week we would know.. or the week after.

August 28th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #392 you continue to backfire in all directions making it look worse for Assad.

Didn’t you read my point in #260? If the source of the evidence is Israeli Intelligence it’s going to be even more respected by global intelligence bodies as they know the Israelis have espionage techniques and technology that few can equal.

I don’t like Israel and its reasons for building such a capability, but that’s how it is.

August 28th, 2013, 6:35 pm

 

revenire said:

– Majed I think Obama is hot to trot and could lob a few hot ones this week. We will have to see but he does seem consumed. I believe he’s a coward and that the opposition is made up of filth – a perfect match. Either way – Syria wins!

– Syrialover sorry but I can’t take you seriously given your past. I will say that your hero Israel was beaten, and beaten badly, by Hezbollah and they don’t even have an air force! The Zionists are still wondering how that happened. Maybe when this war is over you can start to get a life for yourself that doesn’t depend on cannibals, Al-Qaeda and licking boots to get attacks on Syria.

August 28th, 2013, 6:37 pm

 

Ali said:

Naughty Obama you keep playing these games, ah well sounds like it’s time to drive back to Damascus and get back to business.

Next time you terrosits allies when you try to stage a scene you should think bigger something like an atomic bomb might help Obama to see his red line.

August 28th, 2013, 6:39 pm

 

Ali said:

Finishing my shift.

maybe it’s time for other 20 identities to surface up.

Good luck boys.

Off duty.

August 28th, 2013, 6:42 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Experts who spoke to CNBC disagreed about the likelihood of Iran or Russia acting to suppress a Syrian counterattack. But all indicated that the possible outcomes stemming from U.S.-led strikes are hugely varied and impossible to forecast.

Assad will only respond if the strike threatens his control over Damascus and his ability to fly jets.

August 28th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 

Observer said:

What amazes me is the reporting mainly from ZOO but also from ALI and ALAN on how in Western democracies there are at least debates about executive power in contrast to the absolute abject mafia regime of the clan.

I agree SL, there is no redemption none whatsoever for the regime and its supporters.

August 28th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #408

Fail again. I have said more negative things about Israel on this forum than you ever have. And Islamists.

You are a very weak propagandist. Also lazy.

August 28th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 

Rammi said:

Guys, if you are against military intervention and bombings of Syria, I ask you to sign and help me spread this petition. http://tinyurl.com/n9g7jzc
Thank you.

August 28th, 2013, 7:11 pm

 

Tara said:

Obama is a wuss. His interview is pathetic. If he strikes, he will stike just because Assad defies “international norms and for America’s core interest”. In essence, he is not doing it for humanitarian reason. What a shameful weak American president.

August 28th, 2013, 7:17 pm

 
 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

The strike against Assad will include strike from Turkey,The FSA must be ready to take over Latakia and the Alawi mountain
His troops will be in chaos, his airports will be destroyed, his Radar and communications will be distrupted, and the troops morals will be destroyed, FSA can win

August 28th, 2013, 7:38 pm

 

revenire said:

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat.” – Obama 2007 Boston Globe

LOL L L L O S E R

C’mon Barry send the missiles. I am sure Assad has the prisoners in the military barracks by now. You sure will look stupid when all you destroy are some broken down weapons and Nusra prisoners.

What did that bootlikcker say?

Oh yeah… tick tock tick tock.

August 28th, 2013, 7:39 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed because Syria will just sit there waiting for the attack and when it comes won’t be able to do anything but cry.

August 28th, 2013, 7:41 pm

 

revenire said:

SL the old song goes “What have you done for me lately?” or something like that. Ask your Zionist friends how it goes when you get down on your knees to beg for an attack later on today.

All you’ve done for Syria lately is beg someone to destroy her.

🙂

August 28th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

Syrian said:

After the no support chemical Bashar got from Hassan Nes- Lira so far,
Iran gives him the support of “the flame of outrage”,lol where can Chemical Bashar cash that outrage at?!

“Iranian lawmakers and commanders issued stark warnings to the United States and its allies Tuesday, saying any military strike on Syria would lead to a retaliatory attack on Israel fanned by “the flames of outrage.”

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/attack-on-syria-would-trigger-one-on-israel-iran-warns/article13992733/?service=mobile

August 28th, 2013, 8:11 pm

 

Ali said:

How amazing, the real Syrians are attacking Obama’s policies on his facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama

الليدي المشاكسة

نحن السوريون رااااااسنا مرفوع بقائدنا المفدى ابشاااااااااااااار بدمنا منحميك يا تاج راااااسنا وتبا لكل مخرب خرب بلدنا سوريا … بكفي انووو سوريا الاسد وين ما رحتو راسكون مرفوع بهيك قائدعظيم قاهر اسرائيل ا وامراكيل ودول النعاااج القذرة — الله يحمي رئيسنا بشار وسوريا الاسد الله وبشاااار الاسد حاميها….. والله الروووووووح بترخصلك يا كبيرنا ياتاج رااااسنايابشااااار ..

Namman Ali Dib

نحن مع الرئيس بشار الأسد وبلدنا سوريا ، وسنرد عليكم في كل مكان وفي كل دولة اذا اعلنتم الحرب

Omran Moussa

ليك ولا اوباما الخرا…لا تحط راسك براسنا نحنا السوريين…ترا منخرى عليكن وعاللي اكبر منكن…تفوووو عشرفك اذا رجال بتقرب يا زباله

August 28th, 2013, 8:21 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

I have said more negative things about Israel on this forum than you ever have.

SL,

During this critical time, you don’t want to lose focus. Did you tell Reverse how many arabs Israel has slaughtered recently? Pretty soon the Zionists will surpass Egypt, Iraq and possibly even Syria.

August 28th, 2013, 8:38 pm

 

zoo said:

Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
By Defense & Foreign Affairs | Wed, 28 August 2013 21:47 |

http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/Did-the-White-House-Help-Plan-the-Syrian-Chemical-Attack.html

There is a growing volume of new evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its sponsors and supporters — which makes a very strong case, based on solid circumstantial evidence, that the August 21, 2013, chemical strike in the Damascus suburbs was indeed a pre-meditated provocation by the Syrian opposition.
The extent of US foreknowledge of this provocation needs further investigation because available data puts the “horror” of the Barack Obama White House in a different and disturbing light.

Several Syrian leaders, many of whom are not Bashar al-Assad supporters and are even his sworn enemies, are now convinced that the Syrian opposition is responsible for the August 21, 2013, chemical attack in the Damascus area in order to provoke the US and the allies into bombing Assad’s Syria. Most explicit and eloquent is Saleh Muslim, the head of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) which has been fighting the Syrian Government. Muslim doubts Assad would have used chemical weapons when he was winning the civil war.

August 28th, 2013, 9:04 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Predictions or suggestions?

“His troops will be in chaos, his airports will be destroyed, his Radar and communications will be distrupted, and the troops morals will be destroyed, FSA can win”

August 28th, 2013, 9:07 pm

 

Syrian said:

Ratvenir.
The loser from Chicago,did you cash your disability check this week from uncle Sam yet?keep pissing your life away on this site,it is no wonder why Lyndon Larouche never amounted to anything with losers like you are the cream of his youth movement.

August 28th, 2013, 9:08 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I think Obama fell in a trap set for him by israel and some advisors and now he is stuck, if he does not bomb he will look ridiculous and nobody will take him seriously, and if he does he will risk losing Geneva 2 and get himself deeper in the mud of Syrian war. USA presidents are famous for having a bad second term, and Obama is no exception.
Today was not a good day for war mongers and if they bomb, and I think they may still do, they should brace themselves for worse days. What Obama may be doing now is assure Russia that his military strike will be limited and only done to deliver a political message to help his image and his allies.

August 28th, 2013, 9:16 pm

 

Norman said:

Ghufran,

I was listening to our representative on the radio, he was getting calls from the local people, not a single call came supporting the attack, about Obama, he will be smart to say that we are not going to rush to judgment, we did that once and we were wrong, will wait for the UN investigation, there is no rush, we will not let others push us to war.

August 28th, 2013, 9:34 pm

 

Syrian said:

Even those from the pre Internet age are falling into the tarp of the Internet war hype, how can Obama launch an attack while the UN inspectors are still inside a country ruled by a crazy lunatic. There will be no attack ( if it happen) before the inspectors are out.

August 28th, 2013, 9:37 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I love my identity crisis, I indeed think most of you need this crisis, then you will realize that the only decent and honorable identity is being Syrian. Much of the hype about Sunni and alawi ” identity” is garbage , people who cage themselves in the dark and cold prison of sectarian loyalty are unable to lead or prosper and unlikely to produce functional families.
It is not a coincidence that thugs from both sides are more likely to display their empty sectarian pride. Religion today is unhealthy and sectarianism is a disease, only national pride and the love of god, not the love of religion, will free you..

August 28th, 2013, 9:43 pm

 

Syrian said:

The way the regime and its supporters are acting, I would want Obama if he is going to launch an attack to take his time, the regime might just collapsed from the waiting for the attack.
Today the Syrian pond lost about 30% of its value.

August 28th, 2013, 9:44 pm

 

Tara said:

Bushra married in Dubai and enjoying her life with the new husband.  She apparently wasted no time.  Is the police head in Dubai the new husband of Bushra al Assad?  

شهد موقع تويتر للتواصل الاجتماعي موجة من التغريدات عن تحرك دولي وشيك في سوريا، أبرزها تغريدات لرئيس الوزراء البريطاني ديفد كاميرون ووزير خارجيته وليام هيغ، ومستشارة الأمن القومي الأميركية سوزان رايس ووزير خارجية السويد كارل بيلدت، بالإضافة إلى تصريحات من وزير خارجية السعودية الأمير سعود الفيصل وأخرى للأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي. وقد وردت تصريحات معارضة للعمل العسكري في سوريا على حساب القائد العام لشرطة دبي ضاحي خلفان.

وقال رئيس الوزراء البريطاني ديفد كاميرون في تغريدة على حسابه إن بريطانيا تدفع باتجاه اتخاذ كل الإجراءات اللازمة تحت البند السابع من ميثاق الأمم المتحدة لحماية المدنيين في سوريا من السلاح الكيمياوي، مشددا في تغريدة أخرى أن أي تدخل عسكري يجب أن يكون قانونيا وموجها ضد الأسلحة الكيمياوية.

بدوره كشف وزير الخارجية البريطاني وليام هيغ عن اتصالات ماراثونية جرت مع الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة بان كي مون ومسؤولين غربيين لبحث الوضع في سوريا.

وقالت مستشارة الأمن القومي الأميركية سوزان رايس في تغريدة على حسابها إنه تم عقد لقاءات مع مسؤولين إسرائيليين كبار لمناقشة الوضع في سوريا كان منهم مستشار الأمن القومي الإسرائيلي يعقوب عميدرور، وقالت أيضا إنه تم إجراء العشرات من المكالمات مع عدة مسؤولين في العالم، فيما يبدو أنه تمهيد لتحرك عسكري وشيك ضد نظام الرئيس بشار الأسد.


كارل بيلدت:
آمل أن تتخذ إيران موقفا قويا ضد سوريا بعد ثبوت استخدام السلاح الكيمياوي خاصة أنها البلد الوحيد في العصر الحديث الذي استخدم ضده هذا السلاح، وهم يعرفون آثاره الرهيبة

موقف إيران
أما وزير خارجية السويد كارل بيلدت فقد عبر في تغريدة على تويتر عن أمله في أن تتخذ إيران موقفا قويا ضد سوريا بعد ثبوت استخدام السلاح الكيمياوي، خاصة أنها “البلد الوحيد في العصر الحديث الذي استخدم ضده هذا السلاح، وهم يعرفون آثاره الرهيبة”.

وشدد بيلدت أيضا على ضرورة التحرك السريع ضد سوريا وأن يتخذ مجلس الأمن إجراءات حيال ما يحدث هناك من انتهاكات.

عربيا، نقل حساب وزارة الخارجية السعودية على تويتر تصريحات للأمير سعود الفيصل خلال اجتماع اللجنة الوزارية السعودية المغربية المشتركة قال فيها “إن النظام السوري فقد هويته العربية، وإن الرفض السوري لكل المحاولات العربية بات يتطلب موقفا دوليا حازما لوقف مأساة الشعب السوري”.

بدوره قال الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي في حسابه على تويتر إن المسؤولية تقع على المجتمع الدولي ومجلس الأمن للتحرك فورا لاتخاذ الإجراءات اللازمة لمنع استخدام الأسلحة الفتاكة في سوريا. وأضاف العربي أن اجتماعا طارئا للجامعة العربية سيعقد على مستوى المندوبين لمناقشة الشأن السوري.

من جهة أخرى، وردت تصريحات معارضة للعمل العسكري في سوريا على صفحة القائد العام لشرطة دبي ضاحي خلفان حذر فيها من “تحول سوريا لعراق ممزق”، وقال إن تدخل الغرب في سوريا سيكون كارثة.

August 28th, 2013, 9:46 pm

 

zoo said:

As it is going, there may be no attack at all.

It may go the same way it went about the media hysteria of the US, the UK and France wanting to “arm” the rebels. It never happened and no one talks about it anymore.

In the same reasoning, the USA is realizing that any weakening of the Syrian army capabilities will strengthen not the weak FSA, but the united militias of Al Qaeda.
Al Qaeda will come out more powerful and may try to take over the chemical weapons. There will be nobody to stop them. Israel will be in greater danger and the USA will have to send boots to get rid of the jihadists.
The jihadists are the ones who used chemical weapons in Ghouta to force the outraged West to attack and weaken its fiercest enemy, the Syrian Army.
Thus naively Obama will be serving Al Qaeda plan.
Obama is not sleeping well and is having nightmares about that.
He may suddenly wake up and say NO to strikes and YES to Geneva.

August 28th, 2013, 9:55 pm

 

Tara said:

تحذير من كيمياوي جديد
في هذه الأثناء قالت الشبكة الآشورية لحقوق الإنسان إنها علمت من مراقبيها في سوريا أن النظام السوري قد يعمد إلى قصف مدن وقرى مسيحية قرب دمشق بالسلاح الكيمياوي خلال الأيام القليلة القادمة.

وأكد مراقبو الشبكة الآشورية بدمشق أن هناك معلومات مؤكدة وموثوق بها تم تسريبها اليوم إلى الجيش الحر مفادها أن قصف المدن المسيحية يأتي في إطار خطة تهدف إلى خلط أوراق المجتمع الدولي الذي بدا حازما في معاقبة النظام على مجزرة الكيمياوي التي أوقعت حوالي 1300 قتيل من ناحية، وللتشويش على عمليات التحقق من الجهة التي تقف وراء استخدام السلاح الكيمياوي في غوطة دمشق من ناحية أخرى. 

August 28th, 2013, 10:00 pm

 

zoo said:

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria

Posted by EU Times on Aug 27th, 2013
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-arabia-if-west-attacks-syria/

A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.

According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”
….
Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”

London’s The Telegraph News Service further reported today that Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria, an offer Putin replied to by saying “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters” [Putin said referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier HERE], and which Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch.
….
For the West to have so sloppily engineered yet another “false flag” attack to justify a war where they posted the videos of this so-called chemical weapons attack a full day before it was said to occur is the height of arrogance and disdain, but which their sleep-walking citizens, yet again, will fall for as they have done so many times in the past.

August 28th, 2013, 10:05 pm

 

Ghufran said:

A 2012 study by Reed Wood, Jacob Kathman, and Stephen Gent published in the Journal of Peace Research:
“Military interventions in favor of the rebel faction (as opposed to pro-government or neutral interventions) tend to increase government killings of civilians by about 40 percent,” wrote Professor Erica Chenoweth of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver over at the academic blog The Monkey Cage, summarizing the research. By upsetting the balance of power in intrastate conflicts, outside interventions can cause a regime that sees its hold on power weakening to redouble its efforts and lash out brutally.

August 28th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Even Rumsfeld is against the strikes

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-rumsfeld-obama-admin-hasnt-justified-syria-attack/

Donald Rumsfeld: Obama Admin Hasn’t Justified Syria Attack
by Matt Wilstein | 10:05 pm, August 28th, 2013 VIDEO

In an interview with Fox Business Network host Neil Cavuto, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld argued against military intervention in Syria. “There really hasn’t been any indication from the administration as to what our national interest is with respect to this particular situation,” Rumseld told Cavuto.

August 28th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

Norman said:

This a clear indication that the militants are the ones who used Chemical weapons, they are not happy that there is hesitation about the attack, so they are going to attack Christian areas, we all know who kidnapped the bishops, killed the priests and killed the Christians in wadi AL Nasara, now they want to use chemical weapons on Christian areas and blame the government, they are murderers thugs,

By the way Ghufran, the only reason president Assad is still there is because of the support of the Sunni and the Baath party it is the people like the defence minister, and Ali Mamlouk and others, the Sunnah of Syria are the ones who are making the difference,

(( 434. Tara said:

تحذير من كيمياوي جديد
في هذه الأثناء قالت الشبكة الآشورية لحقوق الإنسان إنها علمت من مراقبيها في سوريا أن النظام السوري قد يعمد إلى قصف مدن وقرى مسيحية قرب دمشق بالسلاح الكيمياوي خلال الأيام القليلة القادمة.

وأكد مراقبو الشبكة الآشورية بدمشق أن هناك معلومات مؤكدة وموثوق بها تم تسريبها اليوم إلى الجيش الحر مفادها أن قصف المدن المسيحية يأتي في إطار خطة تهدف إلى خلط أوراق المجتمع الدولي الذي بدا حازما في معاقبة النظام على مجزرة الكيمياوي التي أوقعت حوالي 1300 قتيل من ناحية، وللتشويش على عمليات التحقق من الجهة التي تقف وراء استخدام السلاح الكيمياوي في غوطة دمشق من ناحية أخرى.

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August 28th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

don said:

As a senator and presidential candidate in 2007, Obama told The Boston Globe that he believed the president does not have the power to unilaterally authorize a military attack unless it involves stopping “an actual or imminent threat.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/28/syria-congress-authorization-obama-military-strike/2712985/

WASHINGTON — A growing, bipartisan number of lawmakers on Capitol Hill are asking President Obama to seek their vote of approval before any U.S. military intervention in Syria in response to evidence that the nation used chemical weapons in an ongoing civil war.

“Engaging our military in Syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution,” wrote Rep. Scott Rigell, R-Va., in a letter sent Wednesday to Obama that had been signed by 111 House lawmakers, 94 Republicans and 17 Democrats, by late Wednesday.

“We stand ready to come back in to session, consider the facts before us, and share the burden of decisions made regarding the U.S. involvement in the quickly escalating Syrian conflict,” the letter states. Congress is scheduled to return from the summer break on Sept. 9.

The White House has previously contended that the president has the legal authority to conduct limited military intervention when it is deemed vital to national security interests. The White House has said officials are consulting with lawmakers, but has not indicated whether the president would seek formal congressional authorization.

August 28th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

Syrian said:

Tara.
Hafiz might well turn in his grave in horrors if he could see his only daughter living with the “backward Bedouin Shaykhs ”
If the news is correct about her marrying Dhahi khalfan, then those supporter better not say any bad word about their new in laws.

August 28th, 2013, 10:14 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian,

Hehe!

They soon will worship his toes too. He is now kinda an Assad by marriage. That is their special talent. Let them enjoy it.

August 28th, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

zoo said:

The number of countries in favor of a US punitive attack before the UN experts report and without a UNSC resolution is decreasing by the day.
Turkey, Qatar, Israel are among the few hardliners who still insist that the US should go ahead without waiting for the UNSC or for the investigation results.
Awaiting UN report before decision on Syria: Dutch FM

http://www.china.org.cn/world/2013-08/28/content_29859384.htm

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans on Wednesday said he was awaiting the outcome of the UN report on the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria before deciding on whether to support any military intervention.

Timmermans added that if the use of chemical weapons was proven, the Dutch were in favor of measures against the perpetrators.

August 28th, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

zoo said:

Are they distributing gas masks in Turkey and Jordan?

If not, it means the these countries who are openly the enemies of Syria are not the slightest worried by an eventual chemical weapons attack. They obviously don’t take that threat seriously, because they know that the Syrian army will never use chemical weapons.
The fear of the West is pure propaganda.

August 28th, 2013, 10:30 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Who cares if Bushra marries a Bedouin or a prince, Syria is much bigger than both, the regime until 2011 enjoyed ” special” relations with the Bedouins in the GCC , what poisoned their relation is the Iranian factor and the fear of shiasm, Assad sr knew that and did a much better job in that venue, Bashar is learning on the job and that was a disaster.
Ruling elites in Syria and the GCC may look different but they are not that different.

August 28th, 2013, 10:34 pm

 

Syrian said:

Tara
I wonder If she is the third or the fourth wife, BTY worshiping Bedouin toes is a lot easier, they tend to wear slippers with toe exposed all the time.

August 28th, 2013, 10:37 pm

 

Syrian said:

The joke of the day
“Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria”

August 28th, 2013, 10:43 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian,

Giggles….Very true. The object of admiration is in their face. No imagination needed.

GROSS!

August 28th, 2013, 10:44 pm

 

revenire said:

LOL

Some very unhappy people here tonight.

August 28th, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

revenire said:

Obama Backs Down From Syria
“I Have Not Made a Decision” on Syria

“You better not do it again.” :p You’re a joke Obama.

C’mon Barry – send a few hundred Tomahawks. I am sure you are up to killing women and children – like all cowards.

August 28th, 2013, 11:04 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve @448

No worries. Double up your dose of anti-depressant and do not consume alcohol. You will be all better in few wks.

August 28th, 2013, 11:05 pm

 
 

revenire said:

I warned you that this attack – if it comes – will not sate your bloodlust. You need to lick more boots and beg the Israelis to do the job Obama is terrified of.

Nothing can defeat Syria.

If Obama doesn’t order an all out attack – starting a gigantic war – Assad is going to eat his enemies – but not like the cannibals.

August 28th, 2013, 11:10 pm

 

revenire said:

What happened to “Heads-Up”? I have a little heads up for “it”: Iran has sent some special treats for the invaders – if they come. I am sure you will find out what they are soon enough.

This is top secret info. Shh.

🙂

August 28th, 2013, 11:14 pm

 

Syrian said:

UN interning Eastern Ghuota with the protection of the heroic Ghuota fighters,
Their spirit is at all time high
http://youtu.be/TrGlYlu2qSs

August 28th, 2013, 11:20 pm

 

annie said:

08/28/2013

The Syrian air force is considering using kamikaze pilots against attacks by western forces, a Syrian army officer operating air defences near Damascus has claimed in an interview with the Guardian.

The officer said 13 pilots had signed a pledge this week saying they would form “a crew of suicide martyrs to foil the US warplanes”.

The Assad loyalist, in his 30s and serving with the Syrian army’s air defence section 10 miles from the capital, said: “If the US and British armies launch a single rocket we will launch three or four, and if their warplanes raid our skies they will face hell fire.

“If we are unable to shoot down their warplanes with artillery, we have military pilots who are ready to attack these foreign warplanes by their own warplanes and blow them up in the air.”

The Guardian has been unable to verify the information. The officer has been in contact with the paper on several occasions over the last 12 months during which time he provided reliable information about battles between the troops of Bashar al-Assad and rebel groups. He has declined to provide accounts of events where he has not served.

He claimed: “We have more than 8,000 suicide martyrs within the Syrian army, ready to carry out martyrdom operations at any moment to stop the Americans and the British. I myself am ready to blow myself up against US aircraft carriers to stop them attacking Syria and its people.”

August 28th, 2013, 11:21 pm

 

revenire said:

Annie I’d call that GOOD news!

August 28th, 2013, 11:24 pm

 

Syrian said:

Norman @438
When a very well known pre 2011 Christian group.The Assyrian Human Rights Network (AHRN) warns of the possibility of targeting Christian towns with chemical weapons. How is that” a clear indication that the militants are the ones who used Chemical weapons”??

BTW here is the full warning in English from their site

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=511823872231566&id=136654303081860&refid=17

August 28th, 2013, 11:45 pm

 

revenire said:

Everyone knows who used them. The cannibals are losing and without help from Obama and Netanyahu it’s all over.

You’re delusional if you think Assad used chemical weapons.

August 28th, 2013, 11:50 pm

 

Ghufran said:

محافظة الرقة – المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان::تختطف الدولة الاسلامية في العراق و الشام منذ ثلاثة ايام ضابطين منشقين من محافظة دير الزور كانا يرافقان شاحني اسلحة الى دير الزور وتوجه يوم الاربعاء مقاتلون من الدير الى الرقة من اجل الافراج عن الضابطين وشحنة الاسلحة وذلك بعد فشل جهود
الوساطة المستمرة منذ 3 ايام
Isis is now kidnapping rebels from other factions !!

August 28th, 2013, 11:57 pm

 

revenire said:

The entire “revolution” was born dead. It is a crime against humanity. Assad is doing the world a favor by killing the terrorists. If Obama was any kind of man at all he’d bomb Nusra, the FSA, and every other idiotically named brigade the cannibals have left.

August 29th, 2013, 12:03 am

 

Ilya said:

Rebels are also in state of fear ,that USA strikes will also target them also hiding in bunkers slowing down their activities ,this is interesting.
They wont be able to take advantage of these limited strikes,Obama once again dashed their hopes.

August 29th, 2013, 12:05 am

 

Syrian said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=511823872231566&id=136654303081860&refid=17
“The AHRN has learned through its monitors in Syria that the Syrian regime may intentionally use chemical weapons to target Christian town near Damascus in the next few days.
The Network’s monitors in Damascus have confirmed that information was leaked today that shelling Christian towns is within a framework of a plan that aims to shuffle the cards of the international community, which seemed serious about punishing the regime for the latest massacre using chemical weapons. The regime also aims to shell Christian town to interfere with and disrupt the process of verifying the entity that was behind using the chemical weapons.”

August 29th, 2013, 12:21 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo said Russia will bomb Saudia Arabia.
Ghufran said Assad after the strike will increase sunnis killing by 40%.
Norman said the rebels will bomb Christian areas with CW.
Ziad said Sisi ordered to block american ships from crossing the Sues canal
revenir is challenging Obama
Others saying Russia will interfere even that Russia is withdrawing.
The menhebekjiyehs are getting delusional,and stressed to the degree of becoming crazy

August 29th, 2013, 12:28 am

 

revenire said:

If I were in Nusra I’d be hiding from the US drones right about now. You never know if some patriotic American soldier would kill a FSA member because of 9/11.

My cousin is in the Marines and he told me most of them support Assad and don’t want to kill Syrian women and children.

August 29th, 2013, 12:42 am

 

revenire said:

More bad news for the enemies of Syria.

Syriangirl Partisan
My loyal friends and supporters, I want to tell you i have spoken to many friends in Syria and NON of them are afraid of the Globalist/US military Industrial complex attack! In fact we are all glad, because finally the Enemy has shown their faces. After hiding behind Al Qaeda and a bunch traitors who can’t even recognise where they’re own interests lie for three entire years, the army has pushed them back till the slave master have decided to show its faces. FINALLY we get a chance to strike at the real source of the war. Our soldiers are resistance fighters, our fight is purified and honoured! They have denied the traitors of the SNC absolutely any legitimacy in the minds of the Syrian people and the entire world. And that is in itself a victory. I spoke to a friend in the army today, and he assured me they will have a fight the likes of which they have never experienced. I believe in my people, i believe in our soldiers. I believe in our victory, and no matter what happens or how long it takes, i will believe in it till my dying breath. So stay tuned for my next video which will expose the media lies time and time again.

August 29th, 2013, 1:27 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

once more, with or without a “western” strike… you’r screwed

August 29th, 2013, 2:48 am

 

Alan said:

cheese still in a mousetrap!!
Chinese Foreign Minister warns of a military action in Syria
Chinese Foreign Minister, Wang Yi, on Thursday warned of any military action against Syria.
The Chinese News Agency Xinhua quoted Wang as saying “any foreign military intervention will contradict the UN Charter, as it may spread chaos in the Middle East,” adding that the political solution is always considered as the only realistic means for the crisis in Syria.
He called upon all sides to exhibit restraint and calm in dealing with the Syrian crisis, adding “no one should meddle in Syria or pre-empt the investigation results on the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria.”
The Chinese Minister said that his country is watching the situation in Syria closely, pointing out that the Chinese side strongly rejects the use of chemical weapons in Syria, and supports making a UN objective, independent and honest investigation.

August 29th, 2013, 3:23 am

 

apple_mini said:

The anger and hatred against the west among the ranks in the regime are burning. The collective mood of sacrificing for the country is running dangerously high.

There has been no shortage of shelling by SAA. The checkpoints in Jaramana slows traffic for hours. People are extremely vigilant and alert.

The merge of Nusra and isil is significant. SAA needs further consolidate the central, south and the coast.

Contract its force in the north and west tighter. Let the Al Qaeda grow and swell. The expanding black banners will certainly make US’ head suffer growing pain. Then they will have to deal with them.

The regime just needs to wait and see. If political solution cannot be reached, it is easier for SAA to deal with those American approved militia than those Al Qaeda.

August 29th, 2013, 4:07 am

 

Alan said:

American government implicated in the most heinous and massive chemical weapon
attacks in history. And now the Washington scumbags are on their high horse about
an alleged and unproved use of chemical weapons by Assad in Syria.
Foreign Policy
Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran
The U.S. knew Hussein was launching some of the worst chemical attacks in history — and still gave him a hand.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/cia-files-implicate-washington-in-chemical-weapons-use-against-iran/63833/

August 29th, 2013, 5:01 am

 
 

Alan said:

Greek Orthodox Archbishop Atallah Hanna: “We reject any aggression on Syria
Bishop Hanna: “we believe that the solution in Syria should be politically through dialogue among the Syrians, pointing out that the foreign intervention and the conspiracy are aiming at fragmenting and weakening Syria.”
http://youtu.be/WKFL-sNPkWk?t=52s

August 29th, 2013, 5:09 am

 

Alan said:

Paradoxes abound in US foreign policy and the hypocrisy the US officials exhibit in tackling every issue in a manner most pleasing to them leaves no room for doubt that their call for action is a far cry from humanitarian concerns for Syria or the Syrian people. The agenda they follow in the Middle East is clear and one suffices to bear in mind that their plan to strike Syria is yet another part of their grand-scale modus operandi in the region.
– – –
Russia and China will no longer be able to fool themselves that there is any system of international law or restraint on Western criminality.
Western aggression is already forcing both countries to develop their strategic nuclear forces and to curtail the Western-financed NGOs that pose as “human rights organizations,” but in reality comprise a fifth column that Washington can use to destroy the legitimacy of the Russian and Chinese governments.
http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/08/28/another-us-war-crime-in-the-making-in-syria-russia-china-extremely-careless-in-dealings-with-us/

– – –
Egypt opposes a military action against Syria and will not take part in it, Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy says.
“Egypt stresses clearly that it will not participate in any military strike and strongly opposes it in line with its positions against foreign military intervention in Syria,” according to a foreign ministry statement.
Fahmy adds that Egypt condemns the use of chemical weapons by any party and calls on the international community to hold those responsible accountable after the UN inspectors present their report.
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_29/Egypt-opposes-military-action-in-Syria-Foreign-minister-4375/

August 29th, 2013, 5:42 am

 

Alan said:

465. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
/Zoo said Russia will bomb Saudia Arabia/.
NOT Zoo! but western media !!!
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-arabia-if-west-attacks-syria/
Russia will never hit on Saudi Arabia. This is nonsense. Russia is easier to destroy the United States of America. Which is not much more than 200 years. It’s worth the 7 minutes time!!! 🙂

August 29th, 2013, 6:00 am

 

Syrialover said:

ALAN #469 uh oh, there you go. Cheesing and mousetrapping again.

What ARE you talking about?

Why do you keep refusing to to explain?

Judging from your shrill pro-Assad posts, the problem appears to be you’re tangled up in in a mental mousetrap with a head filled with dead cheese.

August 29th, 2013, 7:26 am

 

zoo said:

Lecturing about “moral obscenity”

I wonder if the USA would object in using chemical weapons to kill Al Qaeda fighters? They did use Napalm in Vietnam and phosphorus bombs in Iraq. They did encourage Iraq to use chemical weapons against Iran. They now prefer to use proxies for their vicious crimes so they look ‘moral’ and ‘clean’.
The USA is the only country that has use nuclear weapons to annihilate their enemies.
They are the single largest mass murderers in the modern history.

The only obscene country these days, after Israel is the USA

August 29th, 2013, 7:56 am

 

zoo said:

Assad says Syria will be ‘victorious’ against US: report

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2013/08/29/assad-says-syria-will-be-victorious-against-us-report

Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad has vowed that his country would emerge “victorious” in any confrontation with the United States and its allies, in comments published Thursday by a Lebanese daily.

Washington and other Western powers have warned of imminent military strikes against Assad’s regime following a suspected chemical weapons attack that killed civilians, including dozens of children, in Damascus suburbs on August 21.

“Since the start of the crisis, as you know, we have waited for our true enemy to reveal itself,” Al-Akhbar newspaper quoted Assad as telling Syrian officials.

“I know that your morale is good and that you are ready to face any attack and to save the homeland,” he added.

“It’s a historic confrontation from which we will emerge victorious,” the paper quoted the embattled Syrian president as saying

August 29th, 2013, 8:07 am

 

Syrialover said:

Among the torrent of stupid and repugnant comments out there are those saying the impact of chemical weapons is being exaggerated.

They claim CW don’t have that much impact on the battlefield, so are not really weapons of mass destruction.

Oh really? What about urban areas? In one quick sweep you can kill thousands of ordinary people while they are sleeping or sitting down to meals, permanently disable survivors and contaminate buildings, water supplies and soil.

Read this:

“On March 16, 1988, Saddam launched a devastating chemical attack on the Kurdish city of Halabja. Iran called for a UN investigation to determine the death toll, but Iraq denied inspectors access to the city. …A Red Cross official estimated that attacks between March 16 and March 18 left some 5,000 civilian casualties, excluding Iranian soldiers. (Even today, gas trapped in basements continues to kill.)

..

“As was the case with Saddam, failing to respond to Assad’s first reported use of chemical weapons may well encourage him to try it again, and with greater scope and efficiency. It seems that the Assad regime already has the means to carry out larger attacks. Israeli intelligence officials suspect that Syria has between 15 and 20 large chemical weapons sites near its airfields. If those sites come into play, the Syrian conflict could enter a new stage of destruction.

“For one, the death counts could increase dramatically. The deadliest individual incident in the Syrian civil war, a battle that opposition figures claim killed 566 in late April this year, was reportedly waged over several days. Saddam’s chemical weapons killed thousands of civilians on a single day. Chemical weapons do have the capacity to kill on a considerably larger scale than Assad’s conventional weaponry has done so far in Syria.

And then there will be those who don’t die; the lingering effects of exposure to chemical weapons (such as mustard gas) are debilitating. They damage the nervous system and can lead to chronic respiratory problems. The exposed population is at greater risk of developing other serious diseases as well. Large-scale use of poisonous chemicals can contaminate houses, water supplies, and agricultural soil. These long-term effects will add difficulty to what will already be a challenging part of the reconciliation process once the war is over.”

(From “Red lines matter – why we should care about Syria’s chemical weapons” – http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139369/malfrid-braut-hegghammer/red-lines-matter)

August 29th, 2013, 8:09 am

 

zoo said:

The SNC renews its refusal to participate in the Geneva Conference by adding a new condition.

http://rt.com/news/opposition-geneva-attack-syria-015/

The Syrian National Coalition, the official opposition to President Bashar Assad, has called off the long-delayed peace summit in Geneva, following an alleged chemical attack last week.

“We refused to speak about Geneva after what’s happened. We must punish this dictator, Bashar the Chemist we call him, and then we can discuss Geneva,” coalition Secretary General Badr Jamous told Reuters in Istanbul.

The Syrian National Coalition was meeting with international opposition backers Friends of Syria in Istanbul, nominally to discuss the upcoming peace talks.

Opposition leaders have blamed Bashar Assad for unleashing Wednesday’s chemical assault on a rebel-controlled Damascus suburb, which Doctors without Borders (MSF) says took at least 355 lives.

Since then, Arab League-United Nations envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, who would have mediated the negotiations has attempted to salvage the conference, saying that the incident proved “that no military solution is possible”.

August 29th, 2013, 8:12 am

 

apple_mini said:

Let us review what those rebel held areas again.

It is not that innocent as you would think.

A dentist and his wife with two kids used to live in a neighborhood closed to Harasta right by the highway. One day in the beginning of the unrest, their car was intercepted and the dentist managed to speed off and made the attempt kidnap failed. They have never gone back since. The dentist is from a minority sect.

A Sunni professor I have been friend with who is on the government side now is renting a place in Mezzah. He used to live in a neighborhood which has seen lots of actions. A year and half ago, his neighbor told him to leave asap. People at the local mosque had decided to come over to finish off him and his son. He left around 9pm. And one hour later, three trucks arrived. Those people did not find his family but they did manage to empty his house.

You will not find anyone who is not on the rebels side living in those rebel held area in Damascus. Either they felt threatened and left or just vanished. Nowadays, the rebels and some of the families of local militants are still in those areas. There are also some people trapped there without any means to leave.

Those family members of the rebels say they are worried that if they venture out, the government might use them to coerce the militants in the family.

It is truly complicated situation. No one is fully innocent or evil except those foreign militants who have no tie to the locals.

The SAA has not tried to use “scorch the earth” policy to conduct assault if they know there are significant civilians in the area and they are not planning to leave.

Yesterday, Jobar was leveled.

Syria is dying one piece of a time.

August 29th, 2013, 8:14 am

 

zoo said:

It will be “the ninth direct US intervention in an Arab or Muslim country in the last 15 years”

An attack on Syria will only spread the war and killing

Instead of removing the chemical weapon threat, another western assault on the Arab world risks escalation and backlash

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/27/attack-syria-chemical-weapon-escalate-backlash

All the signs are they’re going to do it again. The attack on Syria now being planned by the US and its allies will be the ninth direct western military intervention in an Arab or Muslim country in 15 years. Depending how you cut the cake, the looming bombardment follows onslaughts on Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Mali, as well as a string of murderous drone assaults on Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

The two former colonial powers that carved up the Middle East between them, Britain and France, are as ever chafing for a slice of the action as the US assembles yet another “coalition of the willing”. And as in Iraq and Sudan (where President Clinton ordered an attack on a pharmaceuticals factory in retaliation for an al-Qaida bombing), intelligence about weapons of mass destruction is once again at the centre of the case being made for a western missile strike.

In both Iraq and Sudan, the intelligence was of course wrong. But once again, UN weapons inspectors are struggling to investigate WMD claims while the US and its friends have already declared them “undeniable”. Once again they are planning to bypass the UN security council. Once again, they are dressing up military action as humanitarian, while failing to win the support of their own people.
..
Even if the attacks are limited, they will certainly increase the death toll and escalate the war. The risk is that they will invite retaliation by Syria or its allies – including against Israel – draw the US in deeper and spread the conflict. The west can use this crisis to help bring Syria’s suffering to an end – or pour yet more petrol on the flames.

August 29th, 2013, 8:22 am

 

Syrialover said:

Alert for ALAN.

The citizens of Putin-land should be particularly nervous about their “leaders” insisting on leaving Assad’s stashes of CW sitting there.

We can be sure some of those Chechen fighters will be very keen to grab some to take back home for use in the Russian underground railway and elsewhere.

Citizens of Russia are not a protection priority for Putin any more than citizens of Syria are for Assad.

August 29th, 2013, 8:25 am

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you know, well informed sources confirmed that Russian warships stationed in Syrian ports have moved from their previous docking location to new locations in areas in the ports consigned to commercial vessels in order to avoid detection.

But, the reason for this heads up is not to highlight Russian cowardice. Rather we are highlighting the US-NATO cowardice in the sense that they have already revealed their objectives of so-called limited-scope strikes thus voiding the whole concept of deterrence that they hope to accomplish.

Since the strikes are expected to commence coming Sunday at the earliest, we believe the US and NATO still have enough time to readdress the objectives of their upcoming strikes and make them count for something worth the effort rather than a futile exercise of lobbing missiles and bombs.

The stockpiles of Chemical poison are located in the head of the snake just so you know. Its tail is inert and harmless. It will do no good to anyone to go after the tail. In fact, there will be great damage as a consequence of doing anything other than severing the head of the snake.

Either do it by severing the head or stay out and first and foremost for your own sake, NATO.

August 29th, 2013, 8:29 am

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO, articles you are posting like #477 and #481 are nonsensical and empty, saying absolutely nothing that’s original, matters or means anything.

It’s almost like you are trying to fill space and distract from the realities.

Surely not.

August 29th, 2013, 8:38 am

 

Alan said:

483. SYRIALOVER
Hitler also had his opinion is similar to what you think!
Did not hold such as Joseph Stalin!!! have committed suicide!

No country in the hemisphere can play with Russia! Glory and victory for the Russian federal armed forces, ! Pride of the brave Syrian Arab army !!!!!!!

August 29th, 2013, 8:40 am

 

zoo said:

What the Syria neighbors say and are doing?

Jordan does not object to the US military strikes but does not want to appear to be part of it. Despite its denials, it is clear to everybody that Jordan is facilitating that strike and is considered as accomplice. Curiously it does not seem to be worried about possible retaliation with chemical weapons: No distribution of gas masks

Iraq opposes the US military strikes

Lebanon opposes the US military strikes

Turkey encourages the US Military strikes and wants to participate actively in its implementation. Turkey is a blatant accomplice. Yet like Jordan, it does not seem to be worried about retaliation with chemical weapons: No distribution of gas masks

Israel encourages the US military strikes and wants to participate actively in it to take a revenge for their 2006 failure on Hezbollah.
They are concerned by retaliation with chemical weapons either from the Syrian government or the Islamist. They are widely distributing gas masks

Behind the scene

Egypt opposes the US military strikes

Saudi Arabia encourages the attack but prefer to appear neutral as it worries of the impact on its population

Qatar is actively participating the attack

The rest of the GCC has not offered an official position about the US strikes

August 29th, 2013, 8:41 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The strike would be one day unless Assad makes another mistake

August 29th, 2013, 8:45 am

 

zoo said:

Back in December 2012, where rebels testing home made chemical weapons to use in Al Ghouta in Aug 2013?

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/12/us-nato-gcc-backed-terrorists-preparing.html

US, NATO, GCC-backed Terrorists Preparing Chemical Attack?
A troubling video appears on YouTube showing rebel fighters testing chemical weapons in Syria.

Tekkim chemical containers in the hands of Syrian Rebels
December 7, 2012 (Syria Tribune) – While President Obama is busy talking about Syria’s chemical weapons, a troubling video appears on YouTube yesterday showing what appears to be a rebel group testing chemical weapons on lab rabbits, and threatening to use them against Syrian civilians on a sectarian basis.

The video (see here) Note: The Youtube video is restricted starts with several scenes showing chemical containers with Tekkim labels (Tekkim is a Turkish chemicals company) and some lab equipment, while playing Jihadists chants in the background. A glass box then appears with two rabbits inside, with a poster on the wall behind it reading The Almighty Wind Brigade (Kateebat A Reeh Al Sarsar). A person wearing a lab mask then mixes chemicals in a beaker in the glass box, and we see some gas emitting from the beaker. About a minute later, the rabbits start to have random convulsions and then die. The person says: You saw what happened? This will be your fate, you infidel Alawites, I swear by ALLAH to make you die like these rabbits, one minute only after you inhale the gas.

Judging from the rabbits’ reaction, the gas must be a nerve agent. The number of containers, if not a bluff, indicates ability to produce a considerable amount of this gas. Deployment could be by means of a smoke generator placed in the target area, an explosion, possibly a suicide one, of a ”chemmed” car, or simply by using a humidifier.

This alarming video poses many serious questions: Who is this brigade? What will NATO’s reaction be if this was proven to be a rebel group? Is this going to be used a false alarm in a pretext to justify war against Syria? How did these chemicals reach this brigade? Is Tekkim or the Turkish Government going to comment on this? How is this related to the defeat of rebel fighters in the airport battle? Questions left unanswered at the moment, until we see more of what is likely to be a horrific chapter of the Syrian conflict.
….

August 29th, 2013, 8:46 am

 

Syrialover said:

APPLE_MINI, I know you are trying to be even-handed and suggest that innocent people from both sides are having a hard time.

But please, don’t be caught saying the comment below to the many millions of Syrians who have been forced to run for their lives by airstrikes and tank shelling.

“The SAA has not tried to use “scorch the earth” policy to conduct assault if they know there are significant civilians in the area and they are not planning to leave.” (#480)

August 29th, 2013, 8:48 am

 

zoo said:

#Syria lover

You probably know by now what I do with your comments that are constantly full of pseudo psychological analysis of the motivations and mental state of the people who post here.
Throwing them in a dustbin would be an insult to any dustbin.

August 29th, 2013, 8:51 am

 

Sami said:

Nezha Ayoub. A wife, a mother, and not a political person at all. When Apple “I just leveled Darayya” Mini’s heroic army went to “cleanse” Darayya, she was field executed by those hyenas he calls heroes. Her crime was checking on her house.

Yasser Kizbari. An accomplished pilot, son of former Prime Minister of Syria. When he heard about the military operations to level the eastern suburbs of Damascus (that bring so much comfort to Apple “i am happy Jobar was levelled” Mini) he did what any patriot would have done and tried to bring aid to them. Apple’s heroes killed him at a checkpoint.

Omar Aziz. A peaceful activist that helped setup the first LCC and never advocated carrying a gun but rather advocated Syrian Patriosm of helping each other and aiding those who needed aid most, the poor displaced Syrians. He was picked up by Apple “I deny death” Mini’s friends at the Moukhabarat Jawiyeh. He died in their custody.

Basel Shehadeh. A Fulbright student with a promising future left his schooling in the US to go support his people’s struggle against the barbarism that Apple “I hate free Syrians” Mini gladly supports and willingly enslaved by. He carried a camera to document the atrocities committed by the regime in Homs. He was killed by a shell and his funeral was invaded by a hoard of Shabiha screaming Assad ila Alabad.

Syria is being being drowned in the blood of the innocent. Blood the regime was and is so willing to shed for the sake of the repugnant Assad.

August 29th, 2013, 8:55 am

 

zoo said:

Thank you Davutoglu! But nor Syria nor any Arab country needs your hypocritical, vicious and bloody contribution. Get lost.

Turkey wants ‘to contribute to the establishment of a new Syria’
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-wants-to-contribute-to-the-establishment-of-a-new-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=53464&NewsCatID=338

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said Turkey’s aid to the Syrian people and its support of the opposition forces was based on the “responsibility to contribute to the foundation of a new Syria.”

August 29th, 2013, 9:04 am

 

Alan said:

488. MAJED

play station dreamer!!! in this place of globe Moscow never sleeps!

http://youtu.be/WZti4M16uvk?t=6s

August 29th, 2013, 9:06 am

 

Syrialover said:

ALAN, # 485.

Right, you feel pride and admiration for Stalin. Is that what you are telling us?

Wow, you are as much a hater of Russians as you are of Syrians.

Just like Putin.

Putin incidentally has wet his pants again, with an artist being forced to flee Russia because he did a satirical picture of Putin in ladies underwear.

Putin’s hysterical reaction to satire reveals him to be WEAK and INSECURE. Lucky Assad having him for an ally.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/367032/putin-in-underwear-artist-seeks-asylum-in-france

August 29th, 2013, 9:08 am

 

zoo said:

Rushing home before the strikes? The UN inspectors have not visited Khan Al Assal that was the original purpose of their visit. Instead they were immediately redirected by the carefully scheduled attack in Al Ghouta. What was in Khan al Assal that the rebels did not want the inspectors to discover?

UN inspectors to leave Syria by Saturday: Ban

August 29th, 2013, 9:10 am

 

Syrialover said:

Oh I don’t know ZOO, my comments about you provide pleasure and satisfaction to more people than your comments about Syrian matters do.

August 29th, 2013, 9:13 am

 

Syrialover said:

Hey, great cover by The Economist.

Look at this: https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/373056161890582529/photo/1

August 29th, 2013, 9:24 am

 

zoo said:

Restraining Order
Obama’s been wise to not get involved in Syria. But now comes the tricky part.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/28/restraining_order_barack_obama_syria


Everybody knows that it will be excruciatingly difficult for Obama to hold the line at punitive bombing after those strikes inevitably fail to end the war, Assad remains publicly defiant, the Geneva 2 diplomatic process officially dies, and U.S. allies and Syrian insurgents grumble loudly about the strike’s inadequacy.
Once the psychological and political barrier to intervention has been shattered, the demands for escalation and victory will become that much harder to resist. And what happens when Assad launches his next deadly sarin attack — or just massacres a lot of Syrians by non-chemical means? This too Obama clearly knows. But that knowledge may still not be enough to save him.

August 29th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

zoo said:

$495 Syria lover

Here you go in extended your pseudo-psychological speculations not only people who write, but on people who read.
I don’t think that disease is curable.

August 29th, 2013, 9:31 am

 

zoo said:

Would it be a replay of Colin Powell’s convincing evidence show at the UN?

Obama to Release Evidence to Strengthen Case for Intervening in Syria

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/08/obama-to-release-evidence-to-strengthen-case-for-intervening-in-syria

….
That said, despite the hopeful forecast of the “most important single document in a decade,” the Times notes that “American officials said Wednesday there was no ‘smoking gun’ that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to [last Wednesday’s chemical] attack [against Syrian civilians], and they tried to lower expectations about the public intelligence presentation.” (Noted! Expectations duly lowered.) “

They said it will not contain specific electronic intercepts of communications between Syrian commanders or detailed reporting from spies and sources on the ground.” Is the evidence . . . larger than a breadbox? Does it smell? Could you take it on an airplane? Does it make a good gift? Will it “show proof of a large-scale chemical attack perpetrated by Syrian forces, bolstering its case for a retaliatory military strike on Syria”?

August 29th, 2013, 9:35 am

 

Because We Probably Should | Just Above Sunset said:

[…] Well, we do want Assad gone, but that may be its own problem, as Joshua Landis argues here: […]

August 29th, 2013, 9:47 am

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO We know there are real people contributing here and then there are the fake cyber entities.

It’s not hard to pick which is which.

August 29th, 2013, 9:50 am

 

annie said:

http://qunfuz.com/2013/08/29/intervention/
By this mass attack, Assad was not only trying to clear areas close to the capital in which rebels were deeply entrenched and advancing; he was also telling the military and popular opposition, “Look, I can do what I want. I can increase the pace of the ethnic cleansing and genocide, and still noone will intervene or allow you to become properly armed.”

August 29th, 2013, 9:54 am

 
 

revenire said:

Annie the only ethnic cleansing is that done by the cannibals in the FSA.

August 29th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

zoo said:

If Russia agrees to a UNSC resolution, the opposition may be on for a bitter surprise

As the official responsibility of the attack won’t be established before many more weeks of investigation, it is quite possible that Russia will agree to a UNSC resolution on protecting civilians from further chemical attacks.

The main condition that Russia will insist on is that the UNSC resolution makes it mandatory for the opposition to accept participation in the Geneva conference without any conditions.

As the whole purpose of the military strikes is to prevent further use of chemical weapons from either sides, Russia may accept to work out a way to guarantee that the Syrian government stockpile will be controlled while the countries supporting the opposition will have to offer similar guarantees.

Alternatively Russia may accept limited military strikes on empty military areas including areas held by Al Qaeda as a price to pay to break the opposition resistance to the Geneva conference.

Overall , if it works well, the conference will held in October. If Bashar succeeded to pass through that military attack reinforced then he will still be in power and the opposition would have lost the political battle

August 29th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

zoo said:

Ghufran

Will they eat each other livers?

“Isis is now kidnapping rebels from other factions !!”

August 29th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

Alan said:

494. SYRIALOVER
How broken bones in the body of Mrs. Clinton after Heliotrope accident ? Ya haram! Give her something of calcium and analgesic pain of the anemones Afghan origin!!!
You will soon see the huge size of the irony between the administration and its people in the capitalist patient world !
O greedy! Enough money and wars! You will be fuel for Hell!

August 29th, 2013, 10:13 am

 

zoo said:

#500 Syria lover

With your pseudo-psychological nosy talent, you bet it’s not.

August 29th, 2013, 10:15 am

 

Syrian said:

Now Chemical Bashar is using his son Hafez for propaganda purposes,
His page also shows that the family, if it is still in Syria, are waiting too

Hafez Assad
Yesterday at 4:56am ·
12 hours we waited… 48 hours they said, we’re waiting… they may have the best army in the world, maybe the best airplanes, ships, tanks than ours, but soldiers? No one has soldiers like the ones we do in Syria, if you ask me what rank would I rank American “soldiers” ….

https://m.facebook.com/hafez.assad.1/posts/425087244279106

August 29th, 2013, 10:21 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
Stop TZET WA TOLHOSH
Zoo stop nonsense,(Attack on empty areas)

Listening to David Cameron indicates strong desire to make a strike ,so Assad lose his ability to use CW

August 29th, 2013, 10:27 am

 

zoo said:

if the UN investigation of chemical use does not point unambiguously to a party responsible, it looks like the strikes will be delayed and the UNSC resolution may end up by just calling for a formal and extended UN investigation on the Al Ghouta chemical attack.

Putin, Merkel agree UN Council must study Syria probe: Kremlin
August 29, 2013 04:27 PM

MOSCOW: Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel agreed Thursday on the need for the U.N. Security Council to study a report by U.N. experts on the alleged chemical attack outside Damascus, the Kremlin said.

“Both sides proceed from the fact that active work will be continued within the framework of the United Nations and other formats on issues of a political and diplomatic settlement of the current situation,” the Kremlin said in a statement.

“In particular, it is important that the Security Council examines a report by U.N. inspectors about possible facts of the use of chemical weapons in Syria.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-29/229206-putin-merkel-agree-un-council-must-study-syria-probe-kremlin.ashx#ixzz2dMtkhOPa

August 29th, 2013, 10:29 am

 

zoo said:

#509 Majed

Cameron’s desires mirror Blair’s desires. He will get neither the approval of the House of commons, nor the approval of the British people.
He’ll have to go on his own.

August 29th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

revenire said:

Majed, like you, Cameron has lusted to kill Syrian women and children for years. He is a coward. All those that back him are cowards.

These threats from the West to attack are EXCELLENT. Now every Syrian, at home and abroad, can see the foreign hand in the conspiracy against Syria.

August 29th, 2013, 10:34 am

 

Alan said:

U.S. WC-135C nuclear radiation sniffing plane spotted over Europe. En-route to Syria?
Is “someone” going to set off a nuke and blame Iran for it?
http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/WC-135C-Constant-Phoenix.jpg
During the early hours on Aug. 28, a WC-135C was spotted just to the South of the UK.

The aircraft was being refueled by a KC-135 tanker launched from RAF Mildenhall which met the “Sniffer” maybe out in the Atlantic.

The two WC-135 Constant Phoenix operated by the 45th Reconnaissance Squadron from Offutt Air Force Base, are an atmospheric collections aircraft used to detect the radioactive particles that result from a nuclear detonation.

They were deployed near North Korea in anticipation of Kim Jong Un rocket launches earlier this year.

The WC-135C Constant Phoenix is used to take air samples from possible nuclear explosions. The question is can it do the same for Chemical Weapons?…

August 29th, 2013, 10:35 am

 

revenire said:

How Damascus Sees the Situation

A well-placed Syrian source said that Damascus believes a military strike against Syria will in all probability take place. However, according to the source, this development has not come as a surprise to the Syrian leadership. Ever since Washington brought up the issue of chemical weapons, the regime realized that the United States was preparing to use it as a pretext to justify its military aggression.

The Massacre at Beit al-Shukuhi

The same source maintained, “Fabricating the lie that the regime had used chemical weapons is not convincing; it is reminiscent of the nuclear fabrications in Iraq.”

The source drew attention to the paradox that emerged on the day the West was making allegations about chemical weapons. An hour before Arab and international news channels were providing wall-to-wall coverage of the alleged attack, Syrian TV was carrying live images of mass graves discovered by the army in the town of Beit al-Shukuhi, in the northern countryside of Latakia.

The mass graves contained the bodies of 120 women and 50 children who were taken hostage after a raid on their village by the Libyan, Chechen, and Saudi brigades, in addition to the Grandsons of the Prophet Brigade and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

As the Arab and Western media focused all their attention on the alleged chemical massacre in eastern Ghouta, the horrific discovery at Beit al-Shukuhi was largely ignored by international public opinion.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syrias-assad-western-military-strike-we-shall-be-victorious

August 29th, 2013, 10:36 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

Whether these areas are empty or not, the opposition, already humiliated several times by the West rejecting their pleas for weapons, will get another humiliating blow and this one will be fatal.

I am waiting to see them crawling to Geneva.

August 29th, 2013, 10:40 am

 

revenire said:

McCain said the US has turned down the FSA request for gas masks. I don’t believe much of what McCain says and wonder if that is said only to try to get weapons to the cannibals.

Either way, it is highly amusing to me to see McCain – an arch-Zionist – a champion of the FSA.

August 29th, 2013, 10:47 am

 

zoo said:

By openly siding with the USA in its determination to inflict more destruction and “punitive” pain on the Syrian population, the expats are siding with Israel and Al Qaeda.
There are strictly speaking traitors to their country and should be dealt with as such.

August 29th, 2013, 10:48 am

 

zoo said:

‘Proof needed’ of US and UK chemical weapons claims – ex-British navy chief

Published time: August 29, 2013 14:43
http://rt.com/op-edge/proof-syrian-chemical-weapons-strike-159/

As the western powers call for a military strike, Baron Alan West of Spithead, a former First Sea Lord and senior security adviser to the British government, warned that the conflict could spiral out of control and play into the hands of al-Qaeda-linked rebel groups operating in Syria.

“I have no doubt that the al-Qaeda group, funded by people who haven’t thought through what this really means, would be delighted if America, Britain, Turkey and France attacked Assad. But that doesn’t mean they like us, they oppose us and want to do us harm, but on a temporary basis that would suit them. “

August 29th, 2013, 10:52 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
You must be Rafidi, we all saw the pictures of children killed by Assad, we never saw the rebels killed children
Is the R in revenir because you are Rafidi

August 29th, 2013, 10:55 am

 

zoo said:

Reve, you are right. It seems that the CIA does not take seriously the possibility of an chemical weapon attack from the Syrian Army on the FSA. Curiously the SNC has not asked either for gas mask for their ‘activists’ in Syria. BTW, not a single activists was reported dead in Al Ghouta.

I guess they know very well where the chemical weapons danger would come from.

http://freebeacon.com/mccain-the-claim-we-cannot-help-free-syrian-army-without-helping-al-qaeda-is-a-lie/

McCain praised the Free Syrian Army as a viable entity operating on their own independent of extremists.

The senior senator from Arizona also revealed he has learned not one weapon from the United States has been given to the Free Syrian Army, a statistic he termed as “shameful.”

Additionally, requests from the moderate rebels for gas masks have been denied by the CIA, McCain said.

Moreover, McCain related he is concerned President Obama may decide to employ a “cosmetic” cruise missile assault on Assad without embracing any goal of regime change.

August 29th, 2013, 11:01 am

 

zoo said:

Crackdown on the MB is in full swing

Senior Muslim Brotherhood Leader Mohamed El-Beltagy has been arrested Thursday in Giza governorate, Ahram Arabic website reported.

El-Beltagy was observed by the police for two days before his arrest in the rural area of Abo El-Namras in Giza.

He was hiding since the police’s bloody crackdown on the pro-Morsi sit-in in Cairo’s Rabaa Al-Adawiya.

August 29th, 2013, 11:05 am

 

revenire said:

Russia to send warships to Mediterranean to counter western forces
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/russia-to-send-warships-to-mediterranean-to-counter-western-forces/1161812/

C’mon Barry Obama – start World War III because you want to install Al-Qaeda in Syria.

August 29th, 2013, 11:05 am

 

apple_mini said:

Regardless the outcome of this CW incident, it indeed will be the turning point of this conflict.

Simply put, the west especially US cannot afford to support the war keep going.

Loot at the mess: the north is rampart by Al Qaeda and other extremists. Both warring parties are getting more brutal and desensed by long fighting.

What the west and US can achieve compared to the potential disaster seems getting pale.

The west and their governments do not want to have another headache after this big fiasco of their foreign policy.

What we will see is that the west will push for Geneva II and press the GCC and Turkey to cut down military supply after they get some kind of promise from Russia.

August 29th, 2013, 11:06 am

 

zoo said:

# 519 Majed

Brilliant as usual..

August 29th, 2013, 11:07 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

US can go on with the strike alone

August 29th, 2013, 11:09 am

 

revenire said:

Did Obama Administration Leaks Already Spoil the Syria Attack?
Former top officers are baffled by Washington’s telegraphing of its strike on Assad.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/28/did_white_house_leaks_already_spoil_the_syria_attack

August 29th, 2013, 11:16 am

 

revenire said:

Obama Promises Syria Strike Will Have No Objective
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/08/obama-promises-syria-strike-will-have-no-objective.html?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=twitter

Attempting to quell criticism of his proposal for a limited military mission in Syria, President Obama floated a more modest strategy today, saying that any U.S. action in Syria would have “no objective whatsoever.”

August 29th, 2013, 11:17 am

 

revenire said:

AP Sources: Intelligence on Weapons No ‘Slam Dunk’

So while Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that links between the attack and the Assad government are “undeniable,” U.S. intelligence officials are not so certain that the suspected chemical attack was carried out on Assad’s orders, or even completely sure it was carried out by government forces, the officials said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-sources-intelligence-weapons-slam-dunk-20102965?page=2

August 29th, 2013, 11:21 am

 

Hopeful said:

Been watching the debate in the British House of Commons for over an hour now. The Brits have done terrible things over their history during emperialism, but I have to say, they have given the modern world the gift of democracy and democratic processes. Syrians, and Arabs in general, have so much to learn about how to disagree, debate, negotiate, and argue among themselves, with words instead of violence and guns.

As to the content of the discussion, anyone who is listening or watching would realize how difficult the decision to use military force is going to be for England. Any suggestion that the Brits were looking for a pretext to get involved is laughable. I think the same can be said about the US. These countries are getting involved simply because they cannot afford not to anymore, not because, as many regime supporters like to argue, they are manufacturing events to attack Syria.

August 29th, 2013, 11:31 am

 

Ziad said:

Does Obama know he’s fighting on al-Qa’ida’s side?

‘All for one and one for all’ should be the battle cry if the West goes to war against Assad’s Syrian regime

If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qa’ida.
Quite an alliance! Was it not the Three Musketeers who shouted “All for one and one for all” each time they sought combat? This really should be the new battle cry if – or when – the statesmen of the Western world go to war against Bashar al-Assad.

The men who destroyed so many thousands on 9/11 will then be fighting alongside the very nation whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago. Quite an achievement for Obama, Cameron, Hollande and the rest of the miniature warlords.

This, of course, will not be trumpeted by the Pentagon or the White House – nor, I suppose, by al-Qa’ida – though they are both trying to destroy Bashar. So are the Nusra front, one of al-Qa’ida’s affiliates. But it does raise some interesting possibilities.

Maybe the Americans should ask al-Qa’ida for intelligence help – after all, this is the group with “boots on the ground”, something the Americans have no interest in doing. And maybe al-Qa’ida could offer some target information facilities to the country which usually claims that the supporters of al-Qa’ida, rather than the Syrians, are the most wanted men in the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html

August 29th, 2013, 11:58 am

 

Alan said:

‘The Spectacle of Fearsome Acts’: Syria and the ‘Credibility’ Fallacy

“You know how I stayed alive this long? All these years? Fear. The spectacle of fearsome acts. Somebody steals from me, I cut off his hands. He offends me, I cut out his tongue. He rises against me, I cut off his head, stick it on a pike, raise it high up so all on the streets can see. That’s what preserves the order of things. Fear.” -Bill the Butcher, Gangs of New York

In Martin Scorsese’s fictional historical drama of mid-19th century New York gang violence, the main antagonist, played by Daniel Day Lewis, is called Bill the Butcher. He is a ruthless gang leader who spouts nativist racial denigrations and uses sensational displays of extreme violence to gain power, territorial control, and obedience. In one scene, draped in a tattered American flag, Bill describes how he has kept his power all this time by instilling fear into all his subjects and adversaries – fear from credible threats of violence.

That is essentially a microcosm of how the United States behaves in the international sphere. This principle of ruling by fear and violence, a time-honored tactic of every spiteful thug and mafia don, is one of the primary drivers of the push for President Obama to attack Syria……..
http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/08/29/the-spectacle-of-fearsome-acts-syria-and-the-credibility-fallacy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AWCBlog+%28Antiwar.com+Blog%29

August 29th, 2013, 12:04 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo said
the expats are siding with Israel and Al Qaeda.
Pure nonsense
You can argue Assad killing Syrian is siding with Israel

August 29th, 2013, 12:20 pm

 

Hopeful said:

# 531 Alan

God bless democracy and freedom of speech. I long for the day when someone in the Syrian parliament will stand up and tell an elected president of Syria that he is wrong and that he will not agree with his actions.

August 29th, 2013, 12:23 pm

 

AKbar Palace said:

More Bravado from the Funny Regime in Iran NewZ

Majedkhaldoun,

Apparently EVERYTHING has to do with Israel. If you brush your teeth in the morning or eat breakfast or walk your dog or cruise the internet, it has something to do with Israel.

For example, if the US/UK/France attack Syria, the Iranians will get involved. And who will be the first to feel the wrath of the Iranians? Israel, of course…

Hossein Sheikholeslam, the director general of the Iranian parliament’s International Affairs bureau, claimed the United States would not dare attack Syria but said that if it does, “the Zionist regime will be the first victim.”

http://freebeacon.com/iranian-official-israel-to-be-first-victim-of-u-s-attack-on-syria/

Which begs the question: Why does Iran have to wait for an attack on Syria? Why don’t the Iranians attack Israel now? I mean, afterall, Israel has attacked Syria numerous times this past year.

August 29th, 2013, 12:31 pm

 

zoo said:

Is it too late to determine which chemical weapons were used in Syria?
29 August 2013

An article by Scientific American
http://www.nature.com/news/is-it-too-late-to-determine-which-chemical-weapons-were-used-in-syria-1.13639


Is there an expiration date for detection of these chemicals?

If it was sarin, they have 29 weeks to detect the degradation components. There have been rumors that it’s too late to detect or that sarin evaporates. What happens is it goes into the soil. If there were bursts of sarin in the area say, nearby a crater, the bottom of that crater would be a great place to find sarin remnants. With such a large number of people killed in this attack, there is evidence that large amounts of the chemical—if it was sarin—was used. I expect it lingered in certain areas.

Syria and Israel are among the only countries not to have signed or ratified the 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (Syria signed but never ratified and Israel never signed), which required signatories to stop bioweapons work and destroy existing stockpiles. Did this play a role in the attack?

There are seven states that have not signed. The significance of the Convention is its role in upholding a social construction of reality in which these sorts of weapons are viewed as beyond the pale, as taboo. The more people that adopt that narrative, the bigger the taboo becomes.

Syria was not a member, but it made sense for them not to be. They wanted a form of defense against Israel. They created a stockpile for defense against other states. I really don’t think they would ever have envisioned using it against insurgents. But because they are not a part of the Convention, and there’s no world government, they didn’t feel compelled not to use chemical weapons.

August 29th, 2013, 12:46 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Akbar Palace
The saying that Assad represents resistance was a lie, and we no longer believe that, Zoo and ilks are still playing an old song,it is clear to everyone now that they have been lying.
Further Assad destroyed Syria,his actions make it impossible for Syria to fight anyone in the future, Syria now is much worse than Syria at the time Hafiz took power, Assad thugs destroyed Syria, and stole the money, and turned upside down all what we believed in.
Future democratic Syria must have peace with its neighbors, and try to improve the economy,we need to change from confrontation with others to prosperity of Syrians
I am looking forward for a day when I can travel to Haifa,Beirut Amman without a passport,and without stopping for two hours at the borders.

August 29th, 2013, 12:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

“God bless democracy and freedom of speech.”

I don’t think God will bless that some Western countries have consistently used these noble notion as a mask while they manipulate public opinion with the media they control to satisfy their imperialist greed.
I doubt God will bless ‘free debates’ that cause the death of millions of Iraqis and Iranians…
What the West is debating now is how to avoid being humiliated by a country they have been trying to enslave for decades and that has resisted.
It also has to do with face saving from the humiliation the West is enduring for having tried to enslave Egypt with another of their chosen ‘dictator’ and failed.

It has nothing to do with democracy and free speech. It has to do with arrogance, revenge and greed.

August 29th, 2013, 1:08 pm

 

zoo said:

#536 Majed

Don’t you think the Palestinians should stop dreaming of getting back their land so you can travel freely from Haifa to Amman?

August 29th, 2013, 1:14 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

I am looking forward for a day when I can travel to Haifa,Beirut Amman without a passport,and without stopping for two hours at the borders.

Majedkhaldoun,

You and me both. What’s the phrase, Inshallah?

August 29th, 2013, 1:15 pm

 

Alan said:

Do not you think Mr David, that you forget invite Hamad Ben Jasem, Rajab T. Erdogan and Saud Al-Faysal to UK Parliament for supporting criminality attack on Syria?

West always boasted the democracy of strongs over the weaks !It’s completely false!Governments mock lie without punishment on the people behind-the-scenes and everything is managed by the owners of the money! United States of America in the twenty-first century choice either to reshape itself and either will be the convergence of the fate of the Soviet Union! !America are chronically sick

535. HOPEFUL
Breakfast: freedom of speech
Lunch: freedom of speech
Dinner: freedom of speech
Bon appetite to you and to your children and grandchildren! You can paving the bottom of the sea if you are not satisfied with the behavior of your country-administration! Write on the wall: I have freedom of speech! We are uncertain that your system does not want to change itself!

August 29th, 2013, 1:16 pm

 

zoo said:

#532 Majed

The expats who are siding for the bombing of the country they left years ago and that they still call theirs, by foreign powers under flimsy pretext are nothing but traitors and should be judged as that. They better stay in their adopted country and never set foot in Syria ever. No one would protect them there.

August 29th, 2013, 1:21 pm

 

zoo said:

US officials: High confidence that “government forces” perpetrated the attack but no proof Bashar al Assad ordered it
US officials say ‘no smoking gun’ implicating al-Assad in chemical attack ahead of Congress briefing
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-officials-say-no-smoking-gun-implicating-al-assad-in-chemical-attack-ahead-of-congress-briefing.aspx?pageID=238&nid=53514&NewsCatID=352
….
U.S. security sources and sources close to allied governments say evidence suggests that the initial decision to use chemical weapons may have been made by a field commander rather than in an order from the highest level of the Syrian government.

In a paper published on Aug. 29, the British government’s Joint Intelligence Committee said: “Permission to authorize CW (chemical weapons) has probably been delegated by President Assad to senior regime commanders, such as, but any deliberate change in the scale and nature of use would require his authorization.”

The name of the commander or commanders was redacted from the public version of the paper.

According to a former U.S. official who is an expert in the region, one possibility is that the Syrian ground commander in charge of clearing out the area which was attacked, under heavy pressure from superiors, may have made the initial decision to use chemical weapons before sending in ground troops. The official spoke on condition of anonymity.

U.S. intelligence did intercept communications discussing the attack between officials in central command and in the field. But these do not clearly implicate al-Assad or his entourage in ordering the use of chemicals, sources familiar with the material said.

August 29th, 2013, 1:28 pm

 

revenire said:

Akbar Palace if a general war comes the Zionist entity will be on fire from one end to the other. Hundreds of thousands of rockets will rain death down on the enemy. Israel, and its patron the US, can’t do anything to stop that short of dropping nuclear weapons on Iran.

All Arabs will be cheering Iran on. All the world will cheer as the abomination – the occupier – is destroyed by fire.

Syria – Hezbollah – and Iran won’t be defeated. This war is as much about Iran as it is Syria. A win for Syria is a win for Iran and a defeat for the baby killers in Israel and the US.

August 29th, 2013, 1:29 pm

 

Alan said:

537. ZOO
Donald Rumsfeld personaly has assets in Chicago Baxter Laboratories for the production of deadly viruses and bacteriological weapons !

August 29th, 2013, 1:30 pm

 

revenire said:

Obama is screwed…

Even Donald Rumsfeld says Obama has not justified attack on Syria: Architect of Iraq war expresses fears over intervention as President comes under pressure from Congress

Rumsfeld, along with President George W. Bush, helped send the United States military action in Iraq and Afghanistan

He made the remarks after President Barack Obama signaled the U.S. is moving closer to carrying out a punitive strike against the

Syrian regime for chemical weapons attacks against civilians
House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday demanded a specific justification from the president for how a strike would be in the best interests of the U.S.

116 congressman have signed a letter to Obama demanding a vote in Congress before any military action is launched

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2405598/Obama-pressure-make-case-strikes-Syria-amid-fears-draw-U-S-civil-war.html

August 29th, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

revenire said:

FIRST POST – AUGUST 29, 2013 – 40 ___* TERRORISTS COMMIT MASS SUICIDE INSTALLING BOMB NEAR DAYR EL-ZOR; DITTO FOR 64 RODENTS IN INCIDENT IN HOMS; SYRIAN ARMY RELENTLESS IN PURSUIT OF VERMIN IN DAMASCUS; NEWS AND COMMENTARY; WILE E. COYOTE MOMENT

http://syrianperspective.blogspot.com/2013/08/first-post-august-29-2013-40-rat.html

___* censored to spare the sensitive feelings of those who support cannibals, beheaders and other Takfiri thugs sent by war monger and weakling Obama to murder Syrians

August 29th, 2013, 1:37 pm

 

omen said:

rumskull comes out against invasion. so much for the american-imperialist-plot-to-unseat-assad-as-a-way-to-get-at-iran theory.

despite all of the saber rattling, uk just voted no. so far, west acting to protect regime.

August 29th, 2013, 1:39 pm

 

omen said:

you know you’re desperate when you stoop to exploit your son:

Bashar Assad’s son threatens America on his FB page:

https://twitter.com/THE_47th/status/373072909788381184

August 29th, 2013, 1:40 pm

 

zoo said:

More puzzling questions about the chemical attack are emerging.

Who is the Syrian army “commander” who ordered the chemical attack whose name was removed from the report?

Was it a mistake, an accident or a deliberate act? If it was deliberate, who bears the responsibility?

If this is proven true that the attack came from ‘government forces’, the Syrian government will have to do an internal investigation to determine the chain of command that led to this attack and punish the responsible.

August 29th, 2013, 1:44 pm

 

Alan said:

@WebsterGTarpley
#Obama meets w/ congressional leaders as bipartisan oppo to lunatic #Syria adventure grows-US public sick of war-#Obama courts impeachment

August 29th, 2013, 1:45 pm

 

Discussing the Potential Intervention in Syria | Political Violence @ a Glance said:

[…] Joshua Landis writes that while “preserving the widely respected international norm banning the use of chemical weapons is a clear interest of the US and international community” America should not insert itself into the Syria civil war, a mild endorsement of limited strikes. Tom Nichols concludes that no recent US president would be able to ignore the Assad regime’s chemical weapons use, and that “asking President Obama to be the one guy to look the other way is unrealistic to the point of science fiction.” […]

August 29th, 2013, 1:46 pm

 

omen said:

334. ghufran said: I am rarely rude to anybody, however, you are irrelevant my friend, I see no reason to have a conversation with you.

that’s because you are unable, in good conscience, to refute my charge. thank you for your tacit admission.

August 29th, 2013, 1:52 pm

 

omen said:

549. zoo said: More puzzling questions about the chemical attack are emerging. Who is the Syrian army “commander” who ordered the chemical attack whose name was removed from the report? Was it a mistake, an accident or a deliberate act? If it was deliberate, who bears the responsibility? If this is proven true that the attack came from ‘government forces’, the Syrian government will have to do an internal investigation to determine the chain of command that led to this attack and punish the responsible.

huh? what happened to “the rebels did it”?

August 29th, 2013, 1:58 pm

 

ghufran said:

To many, this is a deal breaker, however, the strike has nothing to do with protecting civilians, it is about trying to help the rebels achieve military “balance” , indeed I expect the regime to be more brutal if its installations and military compounds are hit hard:

AP:“U.S. officials say the intelligence linking the Syrian President Bashar Assad or his inner circle to the alleged chemical weapons attack that killed at least 100 people is no ‘slam dunk.’

more according to fox:

The impending U.S. military action in Syria is likely to extend beyond the capital city of Damascus, and would be focused on the delivery systems for the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons arsenal, sources told Fox News.
These systems, and the U.S. military strikes against them, would accordingly include both command-and-control facilities located in the capital but also Syria’s short-range missile launchers and artillery positions, which are said to be located in mountainous areas outside of the city.
Bashar al-Assad’s presidential palace and Syrian government ministry buildings are not expected to be among the sites the U.S. will strike, the sources said. In part, this reflects the fact that many of the key officials and systems at such facilities have already been evacuated, the sources said.

August 29th, 2013, 2:04 pm

 
 

Hopeful said:

#540 Alan

“Bon appetite to you and to your children and grandchildren”

Thank you. My children are already thanking me for leaving Syria when I did and raising them up in a country that allows them to be free, inquisitive, and expressive. These same rights that many of you here on SC are enjoying living in the west while denying the children of Syria the same.

August 29th, 2013, 2:10 pm

 

Hopeful said:

#554 Alan

Good read, but I am not sure what point you are trying to make. I have always respected Brzezinski.

The conclusion: in democracies, it is becoming more difficult to shape and control public opinions according to the desire of the leaders because of access to information.

That is wonderful and great progress.

At least in democracies, leaders care about public opinion and cannot suppress it. They may try to manipulate and influence it, but they cannot silence it.

August 29th, 2013, 2:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Russia demands that the UN inspectors return to Syria to fulfill the mandate agreed upon with the UN, i.e 14 days investigation in Khan Al Assal and 2 other locations

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2013-08/30/content_16930710.htm

MOSCOW – The UN experts’ possible return to The Hague for sample delivering should not prevent further investigation over alleged chemical weapons use in Syria, the Russian Foreign Ministry said Thursday.

“In particular, the inspections must be carried out, besides a Damascus suburb, at three other sites previously agreed between the Syrian authorities and the UN Secretariat on Aug. 13,” the ministry’ s spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in an online comment.

The diplomat said the UN experts must implement their mandate and submit a report to the UN Security Council.

The UN investigation team was originally scheduled to spend up to 14 days with a possible extension probing the chemical weapons cases in the northern Khan al-Assal town and other locations.

August 29th, 2013, 2:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
Did you eat too much beans?

Do you know what you are saying anymore?

August 29th, 2013, 2:30 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Just as many of you may know already, and just so those who don’t know already may know, the White House confirmed it will go ahead with some sort of military operation even without congress approval. In a parallel development, the Brits indicated they will proceed even without UNSC approval.

While we see these developments as positive and indicative of the re-growth of badly missed teeth to an often perceived toothless US administration and NATO alliance, we still believe that the objectives of such military incursions are either very poorly defined, not defined at all or fall far short of what should be accomplished.

Nothing short of crushing the head of obscenity justifies any military action in Syria by the US-NATO. Anything short of crushing B. Al-Assad, A.K.A. head of obscenity, is a waste of time and energy. Furthermore, sparing the head of obscenity from the much deserved punishment of destruction will only result in the further dissemination of obscene behaviour in Syria and beyond. So, again NATO, for your own sake, crush the head or do nothing/

August 29th, 2013, 2:32 pm

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

“They may try to manipulate and influence it, but they cannot silence it.”

Bush and Blair’s crimes as well as other crimes have been silenced because it comes from country who have very powerful lobbies that silence anyone they want. Besides Israelis, most people have short memory and this is used extensively by ‘democracies’ to make their criminals forgotten.
They manipulate the information until they get a silence. Only a few voices, that no media gives attention to, are still calling for prosecuting Bush and Blair.

August 29th, 2013, 2:34 pm

 

zoo said:

Omen

What happened to “Bashar did it”?
No one knows for sure who did it. It is all speculation and nobody has the right to attack any sovereign country on speculation

August 29th, 2013, 2:38 pm

 

Robert said:

I guess that we should expect shell games from the Syrian government. Nobody will take responsibility for the attacks (as planned).

August 29th, 2013, 2:39 pm

 

zoo said:

Unanimity on strikes?

Opposition to Syria Strike Rises Amid Military Buildup

http://www.voanews.com/content/opposition-to-syria-strike-rises-amid-military-buildup/1739713.html

Congressman Scott Rigell, a Republican: ..to follow the U.S. Constitution, he said, if Obama wants to use force “he does need to call us into a joint session, make the case before the American people, allow us a reasonable amount of time to deliberate the matter and then to issue specific statutory authority prior to the use of force.“
..
In London, British lawmakers are engulfed in controversy.

British Prime Minister David Cameron is facing stiff opposition from some members of Parliament over a possible British role in any military action in Syria.
….
U.N. chief urges restraint

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is urging world powers to hold off on possible military action against Syria until a U.N. chemical weapons inspection team completes its work in the country.

August 29th, 2013, 2:42 pm

 

zoo said:

The SNC in a state of high anxiety, presses the UK not to let them down again

As allied support on Syria wavers, Obama administration says ‘We make our own decisions’

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/29/20241897-as-allied-support-on-syria-wavers-obama-administration-says-we-make-our-own-decisions?lite

U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron was forced to step back from supporting U.S. action after lawmakers demanded to see evidence that Syria’s President Bashar Assad had used poison gas on his own civilians.

The delay means Britain is unlikely to join military action until at least next week, following a second House of Commons vote.
..
British MPs were sent two separate open letters Thursday, one from Syrian opposition groups, the other from the speaker in the Syrian parliament, both appealing for action.

“We call upon you to send a message to the regime that it cannot gas sleeping children with impunity,” the National Coalition of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces said in its letter.

August 29th, 2013, 2:48 pm

 

apple_mini said:

There seems to be a problem for the US administration. The deadening and highly advertised strike against Syria might turn into a fiasco. If the administration calls it off now, they become a laughingstocks.

It seems UK would not go anyway, no matter how hysterical Cameron and Hague are becoming, their MPs just say no. Remember the promised weapons for the rebels by Cameron? MPs killed it too.

Another big problem is that the alleged CW cannot be tied down to Assad. A state department spokesperson says Commander in chief is ultimately responsible for decisions. That spokesperson might have been fired by now because she slapped Mr Obama’s face hard. Remember the systematic torture done by US force?

There is possibility that the strike might not happen in the end. Will US administration boost more military support for the rebels out of frustration and embarrassment?

August 29th, 2013, 2:54 pm

 

zoo said:

“The situation is advantageous to Moscow. Our leaders will be only too happy to see the US start a new war it cannot win.”

The west is playing in to Moscow’s hands on Syria

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/97797d0a-1095-11e3-b291-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2dNzAf7Oe

By Georgy Mirsky
Even if the Assad regime crumbles, Russia will not deem Putin a loser, writes Georgy Mirsky

Every now and then one of my English-speaking colleagues asks me what Russia will do if the western powers make good on their threats and strike at Syria. My answer is: nothing. Russia does not have to do anything, it can just sit quiet. The situation is advantageous to Moscow. Our leaders will be only too happy to see the US start a new war it cannot win.

Consider the options. A land invasion is out of the question. Sustained air bombardment risks the loss of pilots, and would therefore be unacceptable for the public in the west. The likeliest avenue is missile strikes; President Bashar al-Assad’s regime will undoubtedly suffer – but Russia and Iran will be able to make up for any losses. The allies will give Mr Assad a bloody nose and that is it. Punitive strikes cannot bring about a turning point in the hostilities. Any substantial change in the correlation of forces on the ground is not feasible.

So, morally and psychologically, the Assad regime will score points, at least in the eyes of the developing world – and certainly in those of Russia.

August 29th, 2013, 2:56 pm

 

Syrian said:

يا ربي اهناك اسد فاني
وصار عمر حافظ الاول سنتان
فكيف الخروج من الاول والثاني

ما بين الاول والثاني
خلقت في عهد الاول
خلقت في القاع الاسفل
وعشت شبابي في سفل الاسفل
وجاء الثاني يتبول
على قمة راسي يتبول
وانا ببركاته اتغسل
واستحممنا ببول الاوثان
وصرنا جيفا بين الانتان

ما بين الاول والثاني
خذي نفطي خذي خيري
خذي عمري خذي قبري
خذي شجري خذي قهري
يا امريكا خذي كل الاخيار
وخلصيني من هذا العار
فانا حاولت وما قدرت
وعلى المصائب صبرت
وعلى الجراح دست
ولم اخلص من الاول فاتاني الثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني

ويل لمن يقول لك لا
لم لم يقل للاول لا
لم لم يقل للثاني لا
اقول لك نعم ونعمين
فانت قرة القلب والعين
وانت حلم كل شاب
بل وحتى حلم الشياب
وانت من لو فتحت سفارتك لنا
لفرغت بيوتنا ومساكننا
ولبعنا حتى كلسوننا
من اجل فيزا
نعري الطيزا.
ارايتم يا اسودنا
ببركاتم كيف صرنا
نعري الطيزا.
لاجل فيزا
ونحلم بوطن ثاني
امسرور يا اول امسرور يا ثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني

خلصينا خلصينا
حررينا حررينا
فنحن لا نستطيع
الا ان نبيع
كل شيء نبيع
فقط لناكل اتصدق يا عم سام
انت خططت كل هذه الالام
اقول لك يا عم سام ان الوقت قد حانا
لتصلح ما فعلته بنا وكفانا احزانا
فمن دونك لا نستطيع
الا ان نبيع
كل شيء نبيع
ونحن نعرف يا عم سام انك شرير
ولكنك مقارنة بالاول والثاني فقير فقير
وارحم بكثير كثير
وارحم بكثير
وارحم بكثير

ما بين الاول والثاني
اهات من الاول واهات من الثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني
عمر فاني ووطن فاني
مابين الاول والثاني
جيل لم يعرف الا الرشوى
جيل لم يرى الا البلوى
جيل لم يذق يوما طعم الحلوى
جيل يعتقد ان الموزة ثروة
مابين الاول والثاني
جيل باكمله فاشل
جيل باكمله جاهل
جيل باكمله قاتل
جيل جاني
جيل جاني
جيل جاني
مابين الاول والثاني
مابين الاول والثاني
مابين الاول والثاني

August 29th, 2013, 3:00 pm

 

Syrian said:

بلا معنى

يا ربي اهناك اسد فاني
وصار عمر حافظ الاول سنتان
فكيف الخروج من الاول والثاني

ما بين الاول والثاني
خلقت في عهد الاول
خلقت في القاع الاسفل
وعشت شبابي في سفل الاسفل
وجاء الثاني يتبول
على قمة راسي يتبول
وانا ببركاته اتغسل
واستحممنا ببول الاوثان
وصرنا جيفا بين الانتان

ما بين الاول والثاني
خذي نفطي خذي خيري
خذي عمري خذي قبري
خذي شجري خذي قهري
يا امريكا خذي كل الاخيار
وخلصيني من هذا العار
فانا حاولت وما قدرت
وعلى المصائب صبرت
وعلى الجراح دست
ولم اخلص من الاول فاتاني الثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني

ويل لمن يقول لك لا
لم لم يقل للاول لا
لم لم يقل للثاني لا
اقول لك نعم ونعمين
فانت قرة القلب والعين
وانت حلم كل شاب
بل وحتى حلم الشياب
وانت من لو فتحت سفارتك لنا
لفرغت بيوتنا ومساكننا
ولبعنا حتى كلسوننا
من اجل فيزا
نعري الطيزا.
ارايتم يا اسودنا
ببركاتم كيف صرنا
نعري الطيزا.
لاجل فيزا
ونحلم بوطن ثاني
امسرور يا اول امسرور يا ثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني

خلصينا خلصينا
حررينا حررينا
فنحن لا نستطيع
الا ان نبيع
كل شيء نبيع
فقط لناكل اتصدق يا عم سام
انت خططت كل هذه الالام
اقول لك يا عم سام ان الوقت قد حانا
لتصلح ما فعلته بنا وكفانا احزانا
فمن دونك لا نستطيع
الا ان نبيع
كل شيء نبيع
ونحن نعرف يا عم سام انك شرير
ولكنك مقارنة بالاول والثاني فقير فقير
وارحم بكثير كثير
وارحم بكثير
وارحم بكثير

ما بين الاول والثاني
اهات من الاول واهات من الثاني
ما بين الاول والثاني
عمر فاني ووطن فاني
مابين الاول والثاني
جيل لم يعرف الا الرشوى
جيل لم يرى الا البلوى
جيل لم يذق يوما طعم الحلوى
جيل يعتقد ان الموزة ثروة
مابين الاول والثاني
جيل باكمله فاشل
جيل باكمله جاهل
جيل باكمله قاتل
جيل جاني
جيل جاني
جيل جاني
مابين الاول والثاني
مابين الاول والثاني
مابين الاول والثاني

August 29th, 2013, 3:01 pm

 

Hopeful said:

# 560 Zoo

I’ll take that everyday over bullets, arrests and scud missles, thank you very much!

August 29th, 2013, 3:04 pm

 

zoo said:

Obama fell into Bandar Al Sultan’s trap. If he does nothing he looks weak and ridiculous. If he does allow attacks in a limited way, he may then be obliged to go all the way and make a regime change through a lengthy war.

I wonder if he will be courageous enough to opt to appear “weak and ridiculous” to UK, France, Qatar, KSA and Turkey leaders and call the attacks off.
As for the American people, the Arabs and the whole world population that have expressed that they are against the strikes, he will be hailed as a hero and a wise man instead of a foolish cowboy.
Obama should stand to his reputation as a man who prefer peace to personal glory.

August 29th, 2013, 3:07 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Apple mini
Certainly US will not strike, go ahead ,visit you friends the Officers in the fourth brigade,or go sleep in Mezzeh military airport,I encourage you to stay there.
And when you see my brother after that tell him I missed him
take Zoo with you and revenir

August 29th, 2013, 3:08 pm

 

zoo said:

#559 Head up

559. Heads-up said:

“Just as many of you may know already, and just so those who don’t know already may know, the White House confirmed it will go ahead with some sort of military operation even without congress approval”

Really? Please provide the source otherwise or it is just another of your rumors.

August 29th, 2013, 3:13 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Reverse’s Predictions & the Lithium Salts Conundrum NewZ

Akbar Palace if a general war comes the Zionist entity will be on fire from one end to the other. Hundreds of thousands of rockets will rain death down on the enemy.

Reverse,

Why wait for a “general war”? Do it now. Today.

Israel, and its patron the US, can’t do anything to stop that short of dropping nuclear weapons on Iran.

First of all, please stop using the word “Israel”. You’re letting your evil, western-influenced personality get the better of you. I prefer “Zionist Entity” or “Shaytan State” or something similarly colorful.

Secondly, Israel has attacked Iran, Lebanon and Syria several times over the past few years (without our patron) and Israel has never used nuclear weapons. In fact, all these wars and battles stopped with more arab and muslim casualties than Israeli casualties. And that’s not even taking into account arabs and muslims killing themselves. Israel’s borders have never been so quiet.

All Arabs will be cheering Iran on. All the world will cheer as the abomination – the occupier – is destroyed by fire.

Notice, you’re sbeaking in the future tense. Wny not make it the present? Why wait? Is there someone I can phone to help speed things up?

Syria – Hezbollah – and Iran won’t be defeated.

No one wants to defeat Syria and Hezbollah because they’re doing such a “bang up” job. I believe they just need more course-work, possibly culminating in a government degree. They can learn about little things like democracy, free elections, human rights, civil law, and crime prevention.

This war is as much about Iran as it is Syria. A win for Syria is a win for Iran and a defeat for the baby killers in Israel and the US.

Yes, it is clear to most of us here that Syria, Hezbollah and Iran will defeat the baby killers in Israel and the US very soon.

Can you give us an ETA? I’m making a small list of your bold and joyous predictions, but I’m finding you don’t get very sbecific.

August 29th, 2013, 3:19 pm

 

apple_mini said:

We have a dreamer who tells us about democracy. In the spirit of 50th anniversary of MLK, let’s check for democracy.

Kerry said Egyptian army was restoring democracy when conducting cracking down (killing) MB protesters

Saudi sent in troops and tanks to Bahrain to crush a genuinely peaceful pro-democracy protest. Yet Saudi is commanding and funding the anti-government insurgency in Syria to help achieving democracy in Syria as the dreamer always enlightens us for.

It is really sad!

August 29th, 2013, 3:24 pm

 

zoo said:

As Obama never had a clear ‘objectives and strategy’ for Syria, he is now cornered to produce one at the request of the Congress House speaker as a prerequisite for getting the Congress to approve or reject the proposal of military strikes

August 29, 2013
Obama briefs Boehner, who wants more “communication with the American public”

President Barack Obama Thursday briefed House Speaker John Boehner on the Syria situation, and Boehner came away seeking more answers.

The Ohio Republican had sent Obama a lengthy letter Wednsday with several questions about potential military action against the Syrian regime. Among Boehner’s concerns were the U.S. objectives and strategy.

Read more here: http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/washington/2013/08/obama-briefs-boehner-who-wants-more-communication-with-the-american-public.html#storylink=cpy

August 29th, 2013, 3:27 pm

 

Alan said:

Every day of modern war means great profit for military-industrial complex owners. That’s the true cause of each world war.

Syria tensions are really good for missile-maker’s stock prices
http://now.msn.com/syria-tensions-cause-jump-in-stock-price-for-raytheon-tomahawk-cruise-missile-maker

557. HOPEFUL
The sh*t on this west, which you brag!!be satisfied with west stink! you are living in the countries that are going to bomb the land of your grandparents!
wherever you are, the son, father sell! the father sell his son! all spy on each other! should you fart as directed Competence service will know about it! snitches.
Congratulations to you! If you do not find freedom in your country, you will not find anywhere! It just your inferiority complex!!!

August 29th, 2013, 3:28 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Ahlan Alan

you are living in the countries that are going to bomb the land of your grandparents!

Alan,

You’ll have to excuse Hopeful. Living in the evil West all these years, Hopeful probably doesn’t understand that “bombing the land of your grandparents” is OK if you’re an arab named Bashar Assad.

August 29th, 2013, 3:32 pm

 

Alan said:

579. A/PALACE
keep sleeping!

August 29th, 2013, 3:39 pm

 
 

Juergen said:

Syrian Novelist Khaled al-Khalifa on a Possible US Strike

“Dictators bring invaders; this is an indisputable fact. Invaders never brought freedom to people, and this is another fact that we shouldn’t forget. But what we should say at this very crucial moment of our lives and the life of our revolution is that the dictators are not the only ones who brought invaders, but that they contributed to that a group of politicians and revolution-traders who sold our blood — once to Qatar and once to Saudi and once to organizations that I don’t know their nature — without the slightest sense of shame. Imagine Samir Nashar and Zuheir Salem representing this great revolution — how strange!”

http://arablit.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/syrian-novelist-khaled-al-khalifa-on-a-us-strike/

August 29th, 2013, 3:43 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

“Raindrops keep falling on my head”

Butch Assadi and the Resistance Kid in their final scene…

August 29th, 2013, 3:44 pm

 

Alan said:

572 Zoo :
personal glory
http://youtu.be/M8GOrc0-Ygg

August 29th, 2013, 3:50 pm

 

Heads-up said:

“Really? Please provide the source otherwise or it is just another of your rumors.”

Yeah really!!

Looks like either you’re scared or tired of barking solo.

Bark on.

Our sources are well informed, absolutely reliable and very very highly placed. They are not concerned with barkers in the wind.

August 29th, 2013, 4:02 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Posted on Yalla Souriya about 25 minutes ago:

AmalHanano
Did millions of Syrians get a 10-day warning before their homes were targeted by Scuds, airplanes, barrel bombs & chemical weapons? #Syria

August 29th, 2013, 4:08 pm

 

Alan said:


Why a President who came to office on the strength of his anti-war credentials – especially on the phony war foisted on Iraq – is running with the war hounds, is something of a mystery. But the rest of the Washington establishment is champing at the bit to unleash missiles on the Syrian regime, promising a short punitive strike, in keeping with the well-worn belief that America cannot live without a war.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel was among those who indicated that the US was “ready to go” the moment President Barack Obama gave the sign. “We have moved assets in place to be able to fulfill and comply with whatever option the president wishes to take,” Hagel said on Tuesday.

If all this recalls the war against Iraq not too long ago, not many in Washington seem keen on remembering it. Instead, explanations are being proffered on how different this case is and how it will be a short, surgical strike, not really a war.
But America’s discerning have long recognized that the country can never live without war. It is a country made for war. Small detail: Up until 1947, the Defense Department was called Department of War.
By one count, the United States has fought some 70 wars since its birth 234 years ago; at least 10 of them major conflicts. “We like war… we are good at it!” the great, insightful comedian George Carlin said some two decades ago, during the first Persian Gulf War. “We are not good at anything else anymore… can’t build a decent car or a television, can’t give good education to the kids or health care to the old, but we can bomb the s*** of out any country…”
Similar sentiments have been echoed more recently. “America’s economy is a war economy. Not a manufacturing economy. Not an agricultural economy. Nor a service economy. Not even a consumer economy,” business pundit Paul Farrell wrote during this Iraq War. “Deep inside we love war. We want war. Need it. Relish it. Thrive on war. War is in our genes, deep in our DNA. War excites our economic brain. War drives our entrepreneurial spirit. War thrills the American soul. Oh just admit it, we have a love affair with war.”
And so, America will be off to another (limited) war shortly.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/why-america-cannot-live-without-wars/64025/

August 29th, 2013, 4:17 pm

 

revenire said:

“Go sleep in Mezzeh military airport.”

Others are sleeping there. Others that will soon taste freedom.

August 29th, 2013, 4:20 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
I very much wish you are there.
The UN Team investigating the use of CW has confirmed the use of CW by the Assad regime, and they may leave sooner than saturday
This is big news

August 29th, 2013, 4:24 pm

 

revenire said:

LOL

Poor Majed.

August 29th, 2013, 4:25 pm

 

ghufran said:

The UN still does not know what was used in Ghouta attack according to Librahimi:

الإبراهيمي: لم يتم حتى الآن تحديد ما هي المادة التي استخدمت في الهجوم الكيميائي المحتمل في غوطة دمشق

France press is still in Damascus, that is a piece from their website today:

Army sites and government complexes stud the bustling residential quarters and crisscross streets of Damascus, making military targets in the capital hard to reach without the risk of collateral damage.
“[An airstrike] would be impossible because there are a lot of people in Damascus,” one woman told our reporters. “How could they hit such a densely populated city? If their intentions are humanitarian, why do they want to hit us?
“It’s us who will die, it’s us who will pay the price,” she added.

Cameron playing with words:

British Prime Minister David Cameron told parliament on Aug. 29 that he was convinced the Syrian regime was behind a chemical weapons attack, but admitted there was no “100-percent certainty.

and now he is simply lying:

“It’s not about taking sides in the conflict, it’s not about invading, it’s not about regime change or indeed working more closely with the opposition.

Oglu lying with a Turkish accent:
(I guess you can claim the country will be new after it is destroyed)
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said Turkey’s aid to the Syrian people and its support of the opposition forces was based on the “responsibility to contribute to the foundation of a new Syria.”

August 29th, 2013, 4:35 pm

 

revenire said:

Ghufran let me clear you up: it was the CANNIBALS who used chemical weapons. They are desperate to get the US to save them from the Syrian Arab Army.

It is really quite simple.

August 29th, 2013, 4:40 pm

 

revenire said:

The British are making asses of themselves, claiming YouTube videos are evidence.

UK Has No Case For War On Syria
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/08/uk-has-no-case-for-war-on-syria.html

Cameron has nothing!!

LOL

August 29th, 2013, 4:46 pm

 

Thor Fjalar Hallgrimsson said:

If acknowledged that same goes for everyone, then yes. If USA uses chemical weapons in one of her many military adventures, then the rest of the world should be morally, legally and otherwise obliged to attack USA and take away her chemical weapons. Same goes for Russia, same goes for China. Same goes for Poland when and if that great country goes chemical.

August 29th, 2013, 4:58 pm

 

zoo said:

Heads up

Your rumors smell really bad.. do your “reliable” sources live in sewers?

August 29th, 2013, 5:02 pm

 

zoo said:

Poor Sabra, he ridiculed himself again in Canada begging for weapons as he got a clear NO

Syrian opposition calls for weapons from Canada; Harper says no military mission

http://www.canada.com/news/national/Syrian+opposition+calls+weapons+from+Canada+Harper+says+military/8849383/story.html

Sabra told supporters that his group’s primary goal is to stop the bloodshed in Syria, but he also wants Canada and other Western nations to supply more weapons to opposition forces.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, speaking in Toronto Thursday, said his government is reluctant to get involved in a military intervention in Syria, but knows there is a risk of escalated chemical weapons attacks should no action be taken.

Harper added that Canada has “no plans” for a direct Canadian military mission in Syria.

August 29th, 2013, 5:06 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you may know, well informed sources confirmed that the pace of defections from the Assad army has dramatically picked up steam in the last few days.

While panic and disarray were the order of the day couple days ago, with reports stating that units were abandoning posts wholesale and handing over weapons and ammunition back to their shabiha handlers, the scene has now shifted towards outright defections coupled with holding on to weapons and ammunition as the realizations dawns upon the demoralized conscripts that such weapons would be essential tools for survival post unknown.

It is estimated that upward of 20000 have crossed the threshold towards either desertion or defection in the last few days since the events escalated to the current level. Most defectors/deserters hail from the popular defense units, newly formed at the behest of the Iranian and HA masters of the Head of Obscenity. If the current pace of defection/desertion continues until Sunday, the earliest date for the known unknown, these newly formed units will entirely cease to exist, as their members will seek to make their essential survival decisions by either following suite with those already defected/deserted or to melt with the rest of the population as if they were the innocent lambs who have neither heard nor seen the Obscenity of the Obscene.

August 29th, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up more silly rumors. You are rivaling Capt. Omen in nonsense.

I am laughing at Obama and the opposition cannibals.

When is the strike coming? LOL

August 29th, 2013, 5:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Acrimony and insults seem to poison the UK government over Syria

British government accuses political rivals of helping Syria’s Assad

http://www.courant.com/news/nation-world/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-britain-assad-20130829,0,2950212.story


Cameron was forced to change tack on Wednesday evening and extend his timetable for military action against Syria after Miliband threatened to sabotage a parliamentary vote on the subject.

In a breach of etiquette that exposed unusual rancour within Britain’s political elite, an unnamed person in Cameron’s office used a string of strong expletives on Wednesday night to describe to the Times newspaper what the government thought of Miliband, which the paper duly published on Thursday.
Shousepalggsn

August 29th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

zoo said:

Heads up

Your ridiculous rumors don’t even deserve a barking, they deserve a big yawn.

August 29th, 2013, 5:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Davutoglu fell on his head or loosing his mind?
That’s the best of the day when we know that the opposition has put as a condition of their participation that Bashar Al Assad does not participate to the Geneva conference.
:

Assad must be forced to Geneva II: Ankara

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/assad-must-be-forced-to-geneva-ii-ankara.aspx?pageID=238&nID=53506&NewsCatID=338

ANKARA – Hürriyet Daily News
A bellicose Ankara seeks to push the West to strike Syria’s al-Assad hard enough to push it to the negotiating table with opposition militants

The action should rather pressure the Syrian administration to avoid military solutions in an effort to push it toward accepting a political solution, Davutoğlu told them. Any military operation against the regime should serve the goal of ultimately bringing President Bashar al-Assad to the Geneva meeting, the minister underlined, sources said.

August 29th, 2013, 5:25 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Head up
When they yawn they bark

August 29th, 2013, 5:33 pm

 

don said:

The slave of Israel CAMERON LOSES. So what’s new?! hehehehehehehehe!

August 29th, 2013, 5:35 pm

 

Ilya said:

Breaking news!!!!
British lawmakers have rejected a Labor amendment on that would have authorized the United Kingdom’s intervention in Syria, with a vote regarding a government motion underway.

The Labor amendment was defeated Thursday by 332 votes to 220, with a government majority of 112. “A number of Tories in the no lobby with Labour,” wrote Labor MP Jon Trickett.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has asserted that such action would put a halt to human rights atrocities in Syria, while Labor party MPs said they required more evidence of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s guilt to intervene in the Middle Eastern nation’s two-years-long civil war.

August 29th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

revenire said:

David Cameron loses Syria vote in Commons

British MPs have voted against possible military action against Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.

David Cameron said it was clear the British Parliament does not want action and “I will act accordingly”.

The government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783#TWEET872505

August 29th, 2013, 5:43 pm

 
 

revenire said:

Ilya “great minds”

🙂

August 29th, 2013, 5:43 pm

 
 

revenire said:

Don LOL Cameron is a dead duck. War mongering bastards.

August 29th, 2013, 5:45 pm

 

ghufran said:

Fisk agrees that it is all about Iran:

Robert Fisk

Thursday 29 August 2013
We should have been traumatised into action by this war in 2011. And 2012. But now?

Iran is ever more deeply involved in protecting the Syrian government. Thus a victory for Bashar is a victory for Iran. And Iranian victories cannot be tolerated by the West
(The Independent)

Fisk loves Damascus more than many of you who are corrupted by money, hate and religion. Here is a piece from his article:

Before the stupidest Western war in the history of the modern world begins – I am, of course, referring to the attack on Syria that we all now have to swallow – it might be as well to say that the Cruise missiles which we confidently expect to sweep onto one of mankind’s oldest cities have absolutely nothing to do with Syria.
They are intended to harm Iran. They are intended to strike at the Islamic Republic now that it has a new and vibrant president – as opposed to the crackpot Mahmoud Ahmedinejad – and when it just might be a little more stable. Iran is Israel’s enemy. Iran is therefore, naturally, America’s enemy. So there is nothing pleasant about the regime in Damascus. Nor do these comments let the regime off the hook when it comes to mass gassing. But I am old enough to remember that when Iraq – then America’s ally – used gas against the Kurds of Hallabjah in 1988, we did not assault Baghdad. Indeed, that attack would have to wait until 2003, when Saddam no longer had any gas or any of the other weapons we nightmared over. And I also happen to remember that the CIA put it about in 1988 that Iran was responsible for the Hallabjah gassings, a palpable lie that focused on America’s enemy whom Saddam was then fighting on our behalf. And thousands – not hundreds – died in Hallabjah. But there you go. Different days, different standards.

August 29th, 2013, 5:50 pm

 

Ilya said:

It is amazing how Syria continues to defeat its enemies ,who are plotting day and night to destroy it 🙂
Poor Obama has no allies willing to attack Syria.left alone bummer what will he do?

August 29th, 2013, 5:54 pm

 

revenire said:

“The British parliamentary vote marked a stunning defeat for Cameron’s government. It came as political objections to a U.S.-led military response increased in the United States and Britain.”

Assad will hunt down, and kill, every enemy of Syria. People are cheering in Damascus right now.

Long live Syria!

Long live Assad!!

August 29th, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

Alan said:

Tory leader calls himself ‘Zionist’; U.K. Jews campaign against boycott
U.K. Conservative party leader David Cameron: Support of Israel is in DNA of party members; U.K. Jews object to call to boycott Israel’s academe.

The leader of Britain’s Conservative party, David Cameron, called himself a “Zionist” Tuesday as he slammed a British initiative for an academic boycott against Israel.

Cameron, responding to questions at the annual luncheon of Conservative Friends of Israel, said the academic boycott was completely uncalled for, and that attacks against Israel often slid into anti-Semitism.

“If by Zionist you mean that the Jews have the right to a homeland in Israel and the right to a country then I am a Zionist,” the Tory leader said, adding that support for Israel is “in the DNA” of members of his party.

He also justified construction of the separation fence, but expressed concern that it might torpedo a two-state solution.

British Jews launch campaign against academic boycott

A coalition of British Jewish organizations will launch a campaign Thursday to combat the University and College Union’s initiative for an academic boycott of Israel.

Advertisements signed by hundreds of anti-boycott academics were scheduled to appear in Wednesday’s newspapers, followed Thursday by a press conference by Jewish politicians, university lecturers and community leaders…..
http://www.haaretz.com/news/tory-leader-calls-himself-zionist-u-k-jews-campaign-against-boycott-1.223009

August 29th, 2013, 6:04 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

We Demand A Recount!!

August 29th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

We demand an inquiry!

It can’t be right!

I don’t know…perhaps Galloway stuffed the ballot boxes..!

Something’s not right!

August 29th, 2013, 6:12 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Damn!

This wouldn’t have happened if we had a Syrian style system. None of this beholden to parliament malarkey.

August 29th, 2013, 6:16 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed , please rush heavy tranquilizers to Jarba, Sabra and Idriss. The UK pumped them and dumped them for the second time.

Without the UK, France may get cold feet then the US will have to go with … Turkey and Qatar. Good luck.

Heads up, any ‘reliable’ rumors from the sewage?

August 29th, 2013, 6:17 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Btw you can see the HUGE sense of relief in some comments above. Tells you how they were actually feeling or what they were going though.

They hid it well the last couple of days.

August 29th, 2013, 6:23 pm

 

ghufran said:

Most Americans and the majority of congress are against a US strike on Syria, Obama will not take the issue for a vote,like in the UK, because he knows he will lose. This is an example of how US congress thinks:

The top Republican on the Senate armed services committee, Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, came out in opposition to an attack on Syria Thursday in advance of an unclassified conference call scheduled for the late afternoon to discuss the intelligence tying Assad to the August 21 attack.
“Today I told the administration that I cannot support military action in Syria unless the president presents to Congress his broader strategy in the region that addresses our national security interests and the budget to support it,” Inhofe said in a statement.
“Our troops are stretched thin, the defense budget has been slashed to historic levels and we are facing an unprecedented time of unrest across the Middle East amid growing concerns about Iran’s influence on the region and its nuclear ambitions. No red line should have been drawn without the strategy and funding to support it.”

August 29th, 2013, 6:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

PJ Crowley making some good points on BBC Radio 5 right now.

I’ll share tomorrow morning.

Along the lines how the onus will shift to China and Russia with them asking themselves whether they want Assad leading Syria into chaos and tragedy.

August 29th, 2013, 6:30 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo you are right they need nerve pills, send me your address so I can send these pills to you and you forward them to them,I appreciate that

August 29th, 2013, 6:31 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Jarba, Sabra and Idriss address is easy:

Bunker no 5 , Hatay , Turkey

If FEDEX refused to deliver, try

C/O Tayyip Erdogan
Ankara
Turkey

August 29th, 2013, 6:36 pm

 

Tara said:

It is a setback but it is not over yet.  Obama is doing it alone.  This will be an American initiative, with an operation conducted entirely by the USA.  International participation is welcome but not necessary.    

New York Times headline: Obama Is Willing to Go It Alone in Syria, Aides Say

WASHINGTON — President Obama is willing to move ahead with a limited military strike on Syria even while allies like Britain are debating whether to join the effort and without an endorsement from the United Nations Security Council, senior administration officials said Thursday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/30/us/politics/obama-syria.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Although the officials cautioned that Mr. Obama had not made a final decision, all indications suggest that the strike could occur as soon as United Nations inspectors, who are investigating the Aug. 21 attack that killed hundreds of Syrians, leave the country. They are scheduled to depart Damascus, the capital, on Saturday.

The White House is to present its case for military action against Syria to Congressional leaders on Thursday night. Administration officials assert that the intelligence will show that forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad carried out the chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus.

The intelligence does not tie Mr. Assad directly to the attack, officials briefed on the presentation said, but the administration believes that it has enough evidence to carry out a limited strike that would deter the Syrian government from using these weapons again.

Russia and China, Syrian allies and permanent members of the Security Council, have so far refused to support any military action against Mr. Assad. But Mr. Obama, his aides say, has reached what one called “a pragmatic conclusion” that even the most ironclad evidence that chemical weapons were used would not change Russia’s objections.

The decision not to wait for the British Parliament to endorse a strike is notable, however. Mr. Bush relied on what he called a “coalition of the willing,” led by Britain. Mr. Obama has made clear that the initiative here would come from the United States, and that while he welcomes international participation, he is not depending on the involvement of foreign forces for what will essentially be an operation conducted entirely by the United States, from naval vessels off the Syrian coast.

The decision not to wait for the British Parliament to endorse a strike is notable, however. Mr. Bush relied on what he called a “coalition of the willing,” led by Britain. Mr. Obama has made clear that the initiative here would come from the United States, and that while he welcomes international participation, he is not depending on the involvement of foreign forces for what will essentially be an operation conducted entirely by the United States, from naval vessels off the Syrian coast.

August 29th, 2013, 6:41 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Btw, I’m only joking above. The UK vote makes no difference really. It won’t change the mind of the US or really affect the intervention. Lack of UK wouldn’t be difficult to make up. The intervention won’t be massive I don’t think. It doesn’t need to be.

August 29th, 2013, 6:45 pm

 

Tara said:

Shame on Britain!

The only time in their entire history when they got the opportunity to do something good and to stand up to the oppressed and to the slaughtered, they failed miserably.

And proud to be American!!

Bashar use of chemical weapon will not go unpunished.

August 29th, 2013, 6:46 pm

 

ghufran said:

The case for war against Syria is falling apart, I have the feeling that Cameron did what he did on purpose to get out of an unpopular war and leave the US does the dirty job alone.
Here is another nail in the coffin:

The Joint Intelligence Committee produced the dossier on Saddam Hussein’s supposed WMD arsenal, used by Tony Blair’s government to justify joining George Bush’s invasion of Iraq; a deeply flawed document which became a byword for manipulation and fabrication, even of intelligence to suit a political agenda.
The report the JIC presented today into another tranche of WMDs, this time belonging to Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, was written in much more measured tones, acknowledging that much of it was from open source material – videos, testimonies of patients and medics – and not really revealing anything significantly secret.
In the process it failed to make a case for war. There was no evidence directly linking President Assad and his coterie to the attack, the blame attached to the regime was by default, inasmuch it was held the opposition did not have the wherewithal to mount such an operation. There is a key difference between the Iraqi and Syrian regimes when it comes to WMDs. There is little doubt the latter does have chemical stockpiles. And, as some of us witnessed on the ground, its forces are capable of startling, casual brutalities.
(what is wrong in letting the UN finish its job and taking the case to the Hague then hold those behind the attack responsible?
the simple answer is that Obama was told that “our” guys are losing we need to do something !! )

August 29th, 2013, 6:49 pm

 

Tara said:

The FSA should take advantage of the chaos that is taking place within the regime ranks evacuating all its headquarter to underground “sewer” and bomb all the regime buildings in Damascus. The regime deserves to stay in its natural underground habitat.

August 29th, 2013, 7:21 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Cuntrary to my friends I think for Obama to do it alone is less likely, however when the report from UN team comes positive ,Cameron will convene the Parliament again and will change their mind, in other word it is delayed ,not canceled

August 29th, 2013, 7:22 pm

 

Tara said:

Majed,

Like Syrian says, let them wait. The more the wait, the more defection, chaos, fear, and disintegration. I just heard the the regime thugs withdrew from Damascus airport. I am hoping that the FSA will take advantage and destroy the airport.

August 29th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

Afram said:

Where is the Russian bear? It’s not the time to hybernate now!!

IS the Russian strategy Game like in a chess game,when your opponent blunders, do not interfere coz

the alternative is a wall to wall beards from the atlantic to the Indian ocean. BEARDSTAN

August 29th, 2013, 7:28 pm

 

Syrian said:

It is fun to watch the emotional roller costar the regime and its tails here on SC going through,finding any news to make themselves feel better, this Brits show of democracy was nothing g but a show, where was those who gave the ” gift of democracy”when the Brits took the lead against Qadhafi,who he did not kill even 5% of what Chemical Bashar has killed so far, they were dreaming about all the oil and Libia’s billions then,
The Brits,a long has been super power who no one even thought they will contribute a thing to begin with,suddenly they stuck their noses into the debate to show that they are still relevent at the world stage,they would not have been able to do anything other than holding the towel for the American to dry themselves,
At any case no matter how it ends up like Syrian Hamster said with or without strike the regime is screwed

August 29th, 2013, 7:50 pm

 

zoo said:

@626 Majed

Even after the report, the UK won’t go:

“But in an unexpected turn of events, MPs also rejected the government’s motion in support of military action in Syria if it was supported by evidence from United Nations weapons inspectors, who are investigating the allegations of a chemical weapons attack last week.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783#TWEET872505

August 29th, 2013, 7:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian

“At any case no matter how it ends up like Syrian Hamster said with or without strike the regime is screwed”

Hamster just dump his smelly and useless h-p all over.

The opposition has no choice then to bow and go to Geneva and face Bashar al Assad, strikes or not.

August 29th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

Gilgamish said:

Well, he’s right at some point but not about everyting add to this he’s talking from purely American point of view at the end, the thing is I do support anything that gonna make Alassad weaker, what’s happening right now by al assad side is the most scary nightmare that could happen to a country like Syria, as long as Alassad is free, the more mess is going to be, more radicals are going to appear on the ground, a whole villages are being surrounded and bombed since months and those people really know and believe that there’s a UN and international society which must tack care of such a big trouble like this and protect the or help them in any way, being silent all this time toward what’s happening and didnt change anything and satisfy with only speeches will give the chance to the militias especially the radical to increase and take care of this, also the issue is that stopping alassad from only using the chemical is not gonna solve the problem, Alassad using everything to keep killing of people not only chemicals,
tagging the whole situation also as a civil war is not really accurate,
for the services that the gov still provide this is not really true about everything ofcourse since the people are surrounded in their villages and couldnt move and the other reason is that there’s some kind of agreement between the rebels and Al-assad because some rebels areas could provide the area that under alassad controll with many stuff and food, and also preventing all kind of services completely is gonna turn Alassad regime into a completely and purely mafia group, another thing is the problem in Syrian is not the gov and its organizations, the problem is Alassad and he’s own thugs that he leads them to do all this.
at the end I would like to comment abt sth really important that the prof mentioned that the regime of al assad is not an entity from the point of view of Syrian, the real problem is all abt Alassad, either alassad could stay and control and make his statement or he’s gonna be defeated and the both side believe they’re gonna defeat each other, so once this guy defeated the Syrian are going to find a better way to understand each other and organize their troubles, since Alassad carrying out all these crimes using a small group minority of people there’s no more any chance to fight into a deeper conflict, he’s a lucky because he own all extreme weapons in Syria, once he lose those effective weapons he’s gonna be forced to listen to what people want.

August 29th, 2013, 8:02 pm

 

Ali said:

Obama and Dave just bugger off you losers. Go get your friends Holland and Bandar and play a round of Trex

How to play Trex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trex_%28card_game%29

August 29th, 2013, 8:23 pm

 

Ali said:

Thanks Galloway, thanks Britons

August 29th, 2013, 8:26 pm

 

Ali said:

“Hamster just dump his smelly and useless h-p all over.”

Jardoon stays Jardoon

August 29th, 2013, 8:28 pm

 

Syrian said:

ZOO:
I’ll let Syrian Hamster answer you,I don’t even know what h p means, my English is not that good and I don’t want you going after my spelling,
But as long you are HA man on this site, and Iran expert ,let me ask you what was Sultan Qaboos doing in Tehran ? What did he offer khamaini?

August 29th, 2013, 8:31 pm

 

Tara said:

I think the US strikevis going to occur on Saturday evening or Sunday.

August 29th, 2013, 8:43 pm

 

Ghufran said:

AB Atwan left al- Quds alarabi but he is not gone:

الاستعدادات لتوجيه حمم الصواريخ والقنابل الامريكية على اهداف سورية بدأت، والمفتشون الدوليون يقومون بمهامهم على الارض، ويجمعون الادلة والقرائن، لتحديد نوعية الاسلحة المستخدمة اولا، والجهة التي استخدمتها، مما يؤكد ان الرئيس اوباما لا يريد لهؤلاء ان يكملوا مهمتهم بعد ان سمح لهم النظام بالقيام بها، لانه يملك الادلة الدامغة.
عندما بحثنا عن هذه الادلة لدى الرئيس اوباما وحلفائه في لندن وباريس، قالوا لنا انها اسرائيلية، وان اجهزة امن دولة الاحتلال الاسرائيلي رصدت مكالمات بين ضباط سوريين تؤكد استخدامهم لهذه الاسلحة.
نحن لا نبرئ نظام الرئيس الاسد الذي تتهمه المعارضة باستخدام هذه الاسلحة مثلما اتهمت المعارضة العراقية صدام بامتلاكها وتبين كذبها وفبركتها، ولكننا نريد تحقيقا دوليا محايدا، لاننا لم نعد نثق بكل اجهزة الاستخبارات الغربية ولا حتى بالسياسيين الغربيين، او معظمهم، خاصة من امثال توني بلير اكبر سياسي كاذب ومزور في التاريخ الحديث.
نعم هناك اكثر من مئة الف قتيل، نسبة كبيرة منهم سقطوا بقصف النظام وغاراته، والبقية برصاص قوات المعارضة المسلحة وقصفها ايضا، باسلحة حصلوا عليها من دول عربية، والمملكة العربية السعودية وقطر على وجه الخصوص، ولكن نحن الآن امام غزو واحتلال لبلد عربي ربما يؤدي الى اشتعال حرب اقليمية وربما دولية تؤدي الى مقتل مئات وربما ملايين الاشخاص. لان ألسنة لهب هذه الحرب لن تتوقف عند حدود سورية.
البرلمان البريطاني هزم ديفيد كاميرون رئيس الوزراء الذي ارسل بوارجه الحربية وطائراته المقاتلة الى قبرص استعدادا للمشاركة في الضربة، هزمه لانه غير مقتنع بمبررات هذه الحرب القانونية والانسانية، ولا بالادلة التي تدين النظام السوري باستخدام الاسلحة الكيماوية. وهناك اكثر من ستين بالمئة من الامريكيين يتبنون الموقف نفسه.
الرئيس اوباما الذي بات اسير خطوطه الحمر بدأ يتراجع تدريجيا، واول الغيث في هذا الصدد اعلانه امس انه لم يتخذ قرارا بعد ببدء الحرب، واطلاق الصواريخ لضرب اهداف سورية، لعله ادرك انه بات محاصرا بالشكوك بنواياه وصدقيته.
لقد ولى الزمن الذي كانت تحسم فيه الضربات القوية المفاجئة الحروب في العالم، وتدفع بالمستهدفين الى رفع رايات الاستسلام على غرار ما حدث في حرب عام 1967، والحروب السهلة بالمعايير والمواصفات القديمة انقرضت ايضا.***
امريكا والغرب خاضا ثمانية حروب في دول عربية واسلامية على مدى الخمسة عشر عاما الماضية ربحتها جميعا، ولكنها انتصارات كلفتها اكثر من خمسة آلاف مليار دولار وما يقرب من سبعة آلاف من جنودها، بالاضافة الى سمعتها كدولة غازية معتدية. وما الانهيار الاقتصادي والمالي الذي تعيشه الا نتيجة لهذه الانتصارات!

August 29th, 2013, 8:48 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Tara
I expect that too,it will be one day, Turkey may substitute England, it will be devastating, England will join,France will join,too

August 29th, 2013, 8:52 pm

 

zoo said:

Obama in disarray over the UK desertion from “the coalition of the wiling” as the USA doesn’t trust the French

US will consult with UK despite Cameron defeat on Syria vote
August 30, 2013 7:44am

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama will decide on a response to chemical weapons use in Syria based on U.S. interests, but Washington will continue to consult with Britain after its parliament rejected a motion supporting military action, the White House said on Thursday.

“We have seen the result of the parliament vote in the UK tonight. The U.S. will continue to consult with the UK government – one of our closest allies and friends,” said White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden in a statement.

August 29th, 2013, 8:52 pm

 

zoo said:

Hundreds of Syrians who care about their country protest in New-york against the US planned attack

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/29/hundreds-fill-new-yorks-times-square-to-protest-attack-against-syria/

“US, NATO, hands off Syria,” chanted hundreds of protesters, weaving through thousands of tourists, some carrying pictures of Assad, and some just declaring themselves against another US war.

Khaldon Makhoul, 43, a physician who moved from Syria to America 17 years ago, held a sign reading: “Syria=Iraq. Same Lies.”

“It is another lie and a lot of people are gonna die for nothing,” he told AFP. “Where is the chemical weapons? Until now we didn’t find it. US soldiers will die for nothing. Where is the evidence?”

Others, Syrians of Christian origin, carrying the country’s red-black-white flag, defended Assad and wrote off the accusations he was behind a deadly chemical attack last week as utter lies.

Retired school teacher Robert Shainwald said he was against any US involvement.

“I do not want this nation to become involved in yet another war. People always lose, no matter what side. Enough is enough. We should just stay the hell out.”

“US, NATO, hands off Syria,” chanted hundreds of protesters, weaving through thousands of tourists, some carrying pictures of Assad, and some just declaring themselves against another US war.

Khaldon Makhoul, 43, a physician who moved from Syria to America 17 years ago, held a sign reading: “Syria=Iraq. Same Lies.”

“It is another lie and a lot of people are gonna die for nothing,” he told AFP. “Where is the chemical weapons? Until now we didn’t find it. US soldiers will die for nothing. Where is the evidence?”

Others, Syrians of Christian origin, carrying the country’s red-black-white flag, defended Assad and wrote off the accusations he was behind a deadly chemical attack last week as utter lies.

Retired school teacher Robert Shainwald said he was against any US involvement.

“I do not want this nation to become involved in yet another war. People always lose, no matter what side. Enough is enough. We should just stay the hell out.”

August 29th, 2013, 8:58 pm

 

zoo said:

#638 Majed

Keep predicting and dreaming. Turkey has shown it is an hypocrite and a coward. They will do nothing. Their economy already shaking may collapse to the pleasure of Israel that he has recently insulted.
Erdogan is living his last months in political life.In 2014, bye bye.

August 29th, 2013, 9:03 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian

I guess Qabous who is a close friend of Iran came to offer his service to help the release of the kidnapped Lebanese Shias held by Islamist rebels that the Turks failed to free . Read article:
“Oman: The World’s hostage negotiator”

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/11/14/oman_the_worlds_emerging_hostage_negotiator

August 29th, 2013, 9:09 pm

 

omen said:

there’s got to be a bait & switch strategy to announcing targets. they’re watching where the regime moves their assets i think.

August 29th, 2013, 9:21 pm

 

revenire said:

How does the bottom of Netanyahu’s shoe taste?

August 29th, 2013, 9:24 pm

 

Ali said:

Omen

The only strategy traitors like yourself and other manayek on this website have shown their real skin color. Those who side against their own country and support enemies should be hanged up side down with heads buried in hot sand.

August 29th, 2013, 9:26 pm

 

Ali said:

Dr. death

Another wet soggy dream of yours, there will be no attack on Sat night so how about sniffing around to find some boots or a$s to lick your bootlickers

August 29th, 2013, 9:28 pm

 

Ghufran said:

أثارت تصريحات نقلتها صحيفة “وول ستريت جورنال” الأمريكية عن الأمير السعودي بندر بن سلطان آل سعود قال فيها إن دولة قطر “ليست سوى 300 شخص.. وقناة تلفزيونية، وهذا لا يشكل بلدًا”، جدلا كبيرا في موقع التواصل الاجتماعي تويتر، حيث شن ناشطون قطريون حملة ضد الأمير واصفين تصريحاته بأنها “مهينة”.
وفي تغريدة اعتبرت ردا على تصريح الأمير السعودي قال وزير الخارجية القطري خالد العطية في صفحته على تويتر إن “مواطنا قطريا يعادل شعبا، وشعب قطر عن أمة بأكملها، هذا ما نلقنه لأبنائنا مع كامل الاحترام والتقدير للآخر”.
وجاءت تصريحات الأمير بندر -وفقا للصحيفة- ضمن سياق انتقاد دور قطر في تسليح مجموعات محددة من الثوار في سوريا. حيث أشارت الصحيفة إلى أن السعودية والولايات المتحدة عبرتا عن قلقهما من تسليح قطر وتركيا لجماعة الإخوان المسلمين، في حين تنفي قطر وتركيا تفضيلهما لجماعة على أخرى.
وقد عبّر أكاديميون وصحفيون قطريون عن انتقادهم لتصريحات الأمير السعودي، واستغرابهم لعدم صدور نفي سعودي لتلك التصريحات التي رأوا فيها “إساءة لدولة قطر ولشعبها”.
Bedouins fighting Bedouins , enjoy the show
عرب معيزه
( مع الاعتذار لصاحبة القول و للماعز)

August 29th, 2013, 9:28 pm

 

omen said:

554. Alan said: HOPEFUL

guess what? zbig flipped! he’s changed his mind. he now supports a strike. the chem attack must have been too much to take, even for him.

The steps that Obama must now take on Syria
By Zbigniew Brzezinski

The repugnant moral crime perpetrated against fellow Syrians, in all probability by Bashar al-Assad’s forces, gives President Barack Obama a unique opportunity: first, to mobilise global opinion against the increasingly destructive sectarian war in Syria; and second to seek broader international participation in a more comprehensive effort to prevent a region-wide explosion.

[…]

It follows that a punitive response to the extraordinarily savage chemical attack on Syrian civilians should be part of a wider strategy designed to engage world opinion in a condemnation of the war itself, and also to generate the emergence of a broader coalition of states that share an overriding self-interest in the avoidance of a region-wide explosion.

August 29th, 2013, 9:31 pm

 

zoo said:

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

This article is a collaboration between Dale Gavlak of Mint Press News and the Associated Press and Yahya Ababneh.

Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, … appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack… The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad’s guilt was “a judgment … already clear to the world.”

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation.

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

August 29th, 2013, 9:37 pm

 

zoo said:

Based on @649, it seems that another plausible scenario is emerging: The chemical weapons provided by Banda ben Sultan to the rebels ended up in Al Nusra non-trained hands and the explosions were accidental and happened near a school.

A thorough interviews of Al Ghouta population may help validating or demolishing that scenario.
Will the UN inspectors alert the UN about that possibility?

August 29th, 2013, 9:51 pm

 

revenire said:

An amazing story Zoo. These rebels are the lowest filth on the Earth. They killed their own people and then lied about it to gain an intervention to murder Syrian women and children.

It is so disgusting I could vomit.

August 29th, 2013, 9:51 pm

 

zoo said:

Well timed Saudi’s incentive to France ahead of the debate on joining the USA in strikes against Syria. A coincidence?

France wins Saudi defence deal: Report
France wins a billion euro defence contract with Saudi Arabia
AFP , Thursday 29 Aug 2013

France has won a billion euro defence contract with Saudi Arabia to overhaul four frigates and two refuelling ships, sources said on Thursday.

A source close to the matter confirmed a report on the La Tribune website saying negotiations that had dragged on for years were now over.

August 29th, 2013, 9:56 pm

 

Ali said:

Zoo

“The chemical weapons provided by Banda ben Sultan to the rebels ended up in Al Nusra non-trained hands and the explosions were accidental and happened near a school”

There’s nothing called “accidental” those terrorists had intentionally gathered these kidnapped kids and gassed them. remember it’s school holiday now in Syria

August 29th, 2013, 9:56 pm

 

Ali said:

“It is so disgusting I could vomit.”

No Rev, have a wee on them instead

August 29th, 2013, 9:58 pm

 

zoo said:

In Egypt, there is a strong opposition to the US strikes on Syria

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/30/world/middleeast/looming-airstrikes-in-syria-pose-test-for-egypts-leaders-and-the-opposition.html?_r=0

At the moment the loudest outcry against the threat of Western strikes has not come from the Islamists but from groups that supported Mr. Morsi’s ouster.

Fearful of the Islamist-dominated Syrian rebels, the new Egyptian government installed by Gen. Abdul-Fattah el-Sisi has gone further to oppose the strikes than any other ostensible American ally in the region. It has broken with the pattern of reliable cooperation with Washington shown by former President Hosni Mubarak and also, for the most part, by Mr. Morsi.

After reluctantly signing onto an Arab League statement holding the Assad government responsible for the chemical weapons attack, the new government said Thursday that Egypt “strongly opposes any military strike as it has consistently opposed foreign military intervention in Syria.” Instead, Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy urged the acceleration of proposed negotiations “to find a political solution to the situation.”

It was one of many signs of fraying relations with Washington.

August 29th, 2013, 10:12 pm

 

Syrian said:

It dose not look like any hostages negotiation. More like the right price for Chemical Assad’s head

“The Omani leader’s visit came in conjunction with the surprising appearance in Tehran of UN Undersecretary Jeffrey Feltman (a former US assistant secretary of state and ambassador to Lebanon) to meet with Iranian officials and discuss the situation in the region, mainly the war in Syria. With both guests in Iran, eyes and ears were directed toward Tehran to understand the developments, and to try to get some clues of what’s happening backstage”

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/08/sultan-qaboos-iran-oman-us-diplomacy.html#ixzz2dPkl4F5B

August 29th, 2013, 10:12 pm

 

Ali said:

“surprising appearance in Tehran of UN Undersecretary Jeffrey Feltman ”

Why is it a surprise? he’s your boss in bootlicking and went there to lick some boots that all

August 29th, 2013, 10:18 pm

 

Ali said:

I like how terrorists allies are describing the UN inspection team of CW as professionals and unbiased.

I can’t wait to read their comment when the final report implicates the terrorists in this attack, or at least clearing suspicious against the regime.

August 29th, 2013, 10:21 pm

 

Syrian said:

Ali
Licking boots is your specialty, you even made a monument for boot licking in Latakia.
How is Dubai treating you by the way, how dose Dhahi khalfan toe taste like? Any different from Chemical Bashar toe?

August 29th, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

ghufran said:

WASHINGTON, Aug. 29 (UPI) — Two law scholars said Thursday the White House is incorrectly interpreting “war” to justify military operations reserved only for congressional approval:

Saikrishna Prakash, University of Virginia law professor, noted in a teleconference Thursday military action against Libya in 2011 was justified under the War Powers Resolution because it did not constitute a war, which the U.S. Constitution says can only be declared by the U.S. Congress.
His view is consistent with that of several dozen members of Congress, who signed a letter to President Barack Obama arguing the Office of Legal counsel reduced the definition of military action in Libya to claim the president did not need congressional approval.
That same letter said the president will need congressional approval before any military undertaking in Syria, the Washington newspaper The Hill reported Thursday.
John Yoo, University of California law professor, agreed with Prakash during the teleconference, agreeing that Obama cannot legally use the War Powers Resolution to justify an attack on Syria due to national emergency.

August 29th, 2013, 10:49 pm

 

don said:

In other words. Israel’s whipping boy was left holding the bag by his best friend and closest ally. hahhahahahahaha!

624. ghufran said:

The case for war against Syria is falling apart, I have the feeling that Cameron did what he did on purpose to get out of an unpopular war and leave the US does the dirty job alone.

August 29th, 2013, 10:57 pm

 

omen said:

561. zoo said: What happened to “Bashar did it”?
No one knows for sure who did it. It is all speculation and nobody has the right to attack any sovereign country on speculation

649. zoo said: EXCLUSIVE: Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.

i see you baseless speculation & raise you hard evidence: nsa intercepts!

Sources: Intercepts show top Syrians preparing for chemical attack, discussing afterward

CNN has learned new details about what is contained in the U.S. intelligence assessment that alleges the Syrian regime was behind a deadly chemical weapons attack outside Damascus, Syria, last week.

According to senior U.S. officials, the assessment contains evidence showing senior regime officials making preparations for a massive chemical attack in the area where the incident occurred – the evidence is part of a “body of intelligence beforehand” that links the regime to the attack, as one of the officials described it.

It also includes evidence of senior regime officials discussing the attack afterward, acknowledging a realization the event was already getting massive attention and discussing that it would be wise to lay low for a while and refrain from launching such massive chemical attacks in the near future, the officials said.

In addition, the intelligence shows there was increased intensive shelling in the area after the attack, the officials said.

Earlier, CNN reported that according to a U.S. official, the United States had intercepts of conversations among top Syrian military officials discussing the chemical weapons attack after it took place. Those intercepts form a key basis for the conclusion that the Syrian regime was behind the attack.

[…]

CNN had also previously reported Israeli military intelligence provided the U.S. with intercepts between Syrian military commanders discussing the movement of chemical weapons to the area of the attack before it happened, according to a diplomatic source.

[…]

He said the evidence shows it was not a “rogue element” of the Syrian regime that carried out the attack, or the Syrian rebels. Another U.S. official echoed the idea that the intelligence assessment shows it was not a rogue element of the regime.

August 29th, 2013, 11:43 pm

 

don said:

Syria resolution authorizing military force FAILS in U.N. Security Council

UNITED NATIONS The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council failed to reach an agreement Wednesday on a British-proposed resolution that would authorize the use of military force against Syria, as the U.N. chief pleaded for more time for diplomacy.

The U.S. has not presented concrete proof, and U.N. inspectors currently in Syria to investigate alleged chemical attacks have not endorsed the allegations.

The American government’s assessment is based on the circumstantial evidence from videos posted on the Internet.

Falk reports that the five permanent members of the Security Council met in a closed-door, informal meeting to discuss the U.K. resolution Wednesday morning, with Russia and China leaving after an hour and the U.S., France and the U.K. remaining for another hour.

None of the countries’ representatives, including U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power and British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant, commented on a plan to move forward.

After the ambassadors met, the draft resolution was being sent back to their governments for consultations, according to a Western diplomat, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the discussions were private.

The diplomat said Russia reiterated its objections to international intervention in the Syrian crisis.

A spokesman for British Prime Minister David Cameron said in London that the British draft resolution would authorize “all necessary measures under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter to protect civilians from chemical weapons.”

Um Ahmad, 45, crossed to Lebanon with her five children Wednesday, fearing U.S. strikes on Damascus.

“Isn’t it enough, all the violence and fighting that we already have in the country, now America wants to bomb us, too?” she said, declining to give her full name for security concerns.

Her husband said they have no one in Lebanon but came anyway because of their children. “What will we do here, where will we go? I don’t know — but hopefully we’ll be safe.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57600384/syria-resolution-authorizing-military-force-fails-in-u.n-security-council/?pageNum=2

August 30th, 2013, 12:23 am

 

don said:

Tony Abbott rules out Australian involvement in Syria campaign if he is PM

TONY Abbott has ruled out intervening in the Syrian conflict if he is elected prime minister, saying Australia should not over-estimate its importance in the fight between “two deeply unsavoury sides”.

“Should any action be taken, it would be taken by countries with the capability to do so and Australia is not one of those,” Mr Abbott said.

“We have no military forces in the Mediterranean, we don’t have ready access to the kind of weaponry that is apparently possibility going to be involved.

“This idea that Australia is going to be a key player here is, I think, to rather exaggerate our own importance.”

Mr Abbott said he did not rule out intervening in future international conflicts, but Australia should not make a bad situation worse in the “powder keg” that was the middle east.

It should also “digest the lessons” from western interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said, adding that he had supported those measures.

Mr Abbott’s comments came just hours after the British parliament voted against any military intervention, dealing a blow to Barack Obama’s efforts to build an international coalition for a military strike against the Syrian government.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/special-features/tony-abbott-rules-out-australian-involvement-in-syria-campaign-if-he-is-pm/story-fnho52jp-1226707604815

August 30th, 2013, 12:33 am

 

Heads-up said:

Just so you may know, it wasn’t in vain that you have been given heads up about the intentions of the US administration to proceed with its plans of some kind of military operation without seeking congressional approval. We trust that you have been satisfied that our heads up were valuable intel having been made avalable to your attention well ahead of revelation through normal channels.

This is still heads up in progress even after the British mishap which may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The Brits are known to be best suited for black ops and they are conveniently positioned for doing exactly that having deployed sizable numbers of special forces in several locations adjoining the theatre of operations. In fact, they are much nearer to Damascus than many woud imagine.

While we see the apparently newly acquired Obama steadfastness to be a positive development, we still consider the defined/undefined objectves of the known/unknown military operation to be a matter for dispute. For example, some members of our heads up team consider the prononouments made by Mr. Obama shifting the responsibilty to the Head of Obscenity, B. Al-Assad, to choose to end the saga of obscenity as a profoundly strong statement cornering the obscene snake against the wall where it may have to either choose to never resort to commit further obscenities and follow in Ali Saleh’s footsteps, or to continue with the same current obscene behavior leading to justifying Mr. Obama to come down upon it with the full force of a hammer as the second phase of final incarceration of the obscenity born on Sep. 11, 1965 by september 11, 2013.

August 30th, 2013, 12:35 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Wrong again. Cameron had to do what he did because he is the prime minister of a country that has laws and respects these laws. A democratic country that does not allow a dastardly buffoon like dog-poop chemical athad to rule of a single second.

August 30th, 2013, 1:12 am

 

revenire said:

US totally isolated in Middle East, zero influence. Cameron and Hague reported to be chewing rug over humiliation.

August 30th, 2013, 1:28 am

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up got one for you: Obama doesn’t care if the rebels live or die. Some would say he likes seeing them die because he really hasn’t helped them against Big Bad Bashar.

This is all about Iran. Obama won’t shed a single tear if 500,000 Syrians die.

August 30th, 2013, 1:31 am

 

DAMASCUSROSE said:

There are some strange and unexpected reactions on the ground in Syria these last couple of days. There seems to be a tremendous rally around the nationalistic Syrian spirit, among pro and anti-regime people alike. Even in places like Harasta and Qaboun, people who absolutely despise this regime are rallying around the national Syrian pride against this perceived foreign attack against our sovereignty. There’s an eery level of defiance and what appears to be re-invigorated determination in the ranks of the SAA as a whole. I heard from trusted sources that certain divisions that have been sidelined for the last two and a half years, mostly Sunni officers and soldiers, have offered to relieve the 4th, RG, and SF divisions in and around Damascus and join the fight if called upon. I had initially thought the regime will absorb the attack, regroup, and unleash their vengeance on Syrians in the days ahead but I now believe they’re preparing for a major response. A theory that was relayed to me yesterday was that the regime believes this is the only way they can win back the hearts and minds of disillusioned and exhausted citizens and soldiers. They think they can turn the tables on the rebels and regional players by widening the scope of the conflict to make it “us against the world” instead of regime against the rebels. There will be some very strange alliances that will be born out of this, information has reached some rebel elements that they’re on the hit list as well and believe the FSA/NSC leadership are selling them out. Supposedly, several local rebel commanders have made overtures about switching sides and joining forces.

A limited attack is going to be useless, ineffective, and have some great negative and unintended consequences on this conflict. It will play right into the regime’s plan to use it as a rallying cry for Syrians, and garner sympathy and support from internal and external players.

August 30th, 2013, 2:21 am

 

apple_mini said:

Let’s see the winners and losers of this CW overdrive.

Syrian civilians are always losers until there is peace. The anxiety and fear put psychological stress on people. Another round of inflation by the ongoing events and people who are taking advantage of it is happening.

The opposition has further lost its supporting base inside Syria. For those who are willing to sell the country and calling for foreign attacks, there will be no reconciliation or forgiveness. Even if those people manage to come back and hold authority, they will always be seen and treated as a traitor.

The opposition also lost its broader international support as they had been hoping for. Their calling for military intervention was completely ignored by UK parliament. It almost seems the whole entity was irrelevant. The opposition did not play well this time to be a victim. Their propaganda was overdone and backfired. By insisting on military intervention, their motive did not go well with majority of population even in the west.

US administration is a loser for their awkward position they have put themselves into and limited influence they can exert on the ground. Especially, after they lost their closest ally, UK.

Cameron and his government are loser as well. His authority has further been eroded.

The winners are UK people for finally their representatives did represent their will. Also many more people who have been able to see through the hypocrisy and anti-democracy nature of their governments and mainstream media.

The biggest winner is Assad and his regime. Inside their camp, they became more resolved and determined to carry on this war to full victory, although no one really sure when if it indeed will happen. That is a testosterone shot for morale. For those Syrians who are not taking decision to support one side or another, the aggression by the west only push them closer to the regime. Even the regime will probably lose some buildings and equipment, the gain actually outweighs the loss by large margin.

Internationally, the vile intention of the west and its dirty plans to meddle into another country just can no longer be hidden. Many people are not in love the regime, but they believe it is Syrians who should decide their future. This is enough for the regime to accept as passive support.

August 30th, 2013, 3:39 am

 

apple_mini said:

No matter how we predict the outcome now, there is always chance something could go wrong. What if the regime under tremendous pressure to retaliate if under strike and it does so? For instance, targets in Jordan or even in Israel.

What about Iran? US administration is determined to launch a strike probably this weekend, based on assumption that the regime would not dare to do anything for retaliation. What if doing nothing is not acceptable within the regime because it would make them illegitimate among even its supporters?

A full blown war is most likely not the possible outcome. But limited conflicts in the region is not off the picture. And it will have long lasting repercussion in the region to swallow.

If a rogue commander of SAA did order CW attack, the international community can put so much pressure on the regime to demand a full and thorough investigation. Instead of military intervention, if they demand those who are responsible to be held accountable even by the regime itself, the effect will be more detrimental to the regime than some cruise missiles.

The regime then has to answer not only to the victims and their families, but also the citizens including many who are supporting the regime.

But, it is not the way US and Israel to conduct their business. After all, it is all about Iran and have they ever really just tried to work out their issues with Iran?

Prepare for a bumpy ride.

P.S. The rebels are becoming irrelevant in this whole crisis and I don’t believe they will be able to take advantage of it. On the contrary, any change of current dynamic is against US national interest.

August 30th, 2013, 4:19 am

 
 

Hopeful said:

# 677 apple_mini

What is your theory as to why the regime, having claimed that they did not launch the chemical attack, have said nothing about the victims of the attack? Why has the Syrian official media been silent about them, and not declared them martyrs, as they have done with the victims of car bombs and shelling of the Damascus University for example?

August 30th, 2013, 5:10 am

 

Hopeful said:

# 675 DAMASCUSROSE

Do you think that was the regime’s plan all along? Launch a limited chemical attack to invite a limited Western attack on Damascus which will rally the people of Damascus behind the regime? Was there a sense that they were losing Damascus slowly?

August 30th, 2013, 5:17 am

 

Juergen said:

Hopeful

This was not a limited attack. They have used chemicals on 14 different occasions.

August 30th, 2013, 5:32 am

 

Uzair8 said:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/8/26/live-updates-crisisinsyria.html

8:19 p.m. ET: Former US Marine intelligence officer Matt Pottinger also told Al Jazeera that the threat of a military intervention from the West is already having an impact in Syria.

“We just learned in the last 48 hours, the highway between Damascus and Aleppo has switched hands to the opposition forces. This highway has switched hands several times through the course of this conflict but that was the main supply route for pro-regime forces that are in Aleppo. Those forces are now at least temporarily stranded in Aleppo.”

8:13 p.m. ET: Former US Marine intelligence officer Matt Pottinger told Al Jazeera analysts have noticed the Syrian regime preparing for possible military strikes from the West by setting up “human shields.”

“Caerus analysts have spotted busloads of civilians being brought into Meza airfield in the southwest of Damascus. So it suggests… human shields.”

“We’ve heard actual eyewitness accounts of troops, Syrian troops being moved into residential areas, into schools, just moving people out of the way. Moving equipment out of the way from those bases but also human shields being moved particularly to this airfield.”

August 30th, 2013, 6:38 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Regime supporters have recently been posting the Mail Online article from January about Britam Defence and a US backed plot to use chemicals and blame it on Assad.

Here is a subsequent Mail Online article (from April) regarding the above allegations published in January:

Britam Defence, David Goulding and Philip Doughty

18 April 2013

An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.

The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.

We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.

We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.

August 30th, 2013, 7:03 am

 

zoo said:

Cohen Sees Only ‘Lose-Lose’ in U.S. Intervention in Syria
By Kathleen Miller – Aug 30, 2013 12:00 AM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-30/cohen-sees-only-lose-lose-in-u-s-intervention-in-syria.html

“If we take action, it’s going to be limited in nature,” said Cohen, who led the Pentagon during U.S. military strikes against Kosovo in 1999. “It’s going to be seen as being too weak. If you take strong action, you’re going to be seen as toppling the regime and bringing in people that you’re not too sure will be on your side.”

August 30th, 2013, 7:12 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

@ 677
Sure, put pressure to hand in rogue element…..

We all followed, with great interest the trial, at the Hague, of Assef Shawkat and Ali Mamlook and others for the crime of assassinating Lebanese politicians including Hariri.

August 30th, 2013, 7:16 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

681. Juergen said:

Hopeful

This was not a limited attack. They have used chemicals on 14 different occasions.

Who are they Jürgen and who told you that? I assume you mean the government side. It is a bit amusing how a German armchair corporal knows exactly who had used the chemical weapons and how many times, when big powerful nations can’t show credible proof of the attacks and identity attackers.

Maybe Obama and Cameron should announce the Syrian regime used chemical weapons and the proof of that is because Jürgen and Kill Assad (= Omen’s present name in Twitter) have told us it being so.

Well you Germans are normally well informed of chemical weapons. In Project 922 (=Iraq’s chemical weapon project) German firms such as Karl Kolb helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant.

The western countries contribution’s to Iraq’s chemical weapon research, production and usage during Iran-Iraq war was simply astonishing.

A “funny” detail is that USA used their veto defending Saddam’s Iraq’s chemical weapons:

The United States and the UK blocked condemnation of Iraq’s known chemical weapons attacks at the UN Security Council. No resolution was passed during the war that specifically criticized Iraq’s use of chemical weapons, despite the wishes of the majority to condemn this use. On March 21, 1986 the United Nation Security Council recognized that “chemical weapons on many occasions have been used by Iraqi forces against Iranian forces”; this statement was opposed by the United States, the sole country to vote against it in the Security Council (the UK abstained).

When Saddam had to stop the war against Iran, Iraq became suddenly the “WMD criminal” in western propaganda. History is a bitch, isn’t it Jürgen. USA obviously thinks that killing Iranians with chemical weapons was/is a good thing – what else conclusions can we make about this. By the way when presently Jewish troops on West Bank are spraying large amounts of unknown chemical substances , which are smelling credible bad and are hard to wash away, on Palestinians and their buildings is Jürgen that using a chemical weapon?

August 30th, 2013, 7:17 am

 

zoo said:

662. Syrian

About Sultan Qabous

If you know the answer, why do you ask the question?
Sultan Qabous has never been involved in high political matter in the region.
But the media and you know better…

August 30th, 2013, 7:20 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Science and the Revolution

Scientists, in the field of evolution have cautiously suggested the possibility of having discovered the (evolutionary) missing link between humans and neanderthals.

Further research and studies have been planned on a type of human referred to as ‘Shabeeha’ found mainly in the Levant, though there is some presence in the West due to previous migration.

Preliminary studies have caused optimism amongst the scientific community resulting in Saudi and Qatar promising funding for further research.

August 30th, 2013, 7:28 am

 

zoo said:

Now that Hollande suddenly got his billion dollar defense contract with Saudi Arabia after years of negotiations, he is bound to return the favor and follow what Bandar Ben Sultan tells him to do.
I expect a declaration of support for the strikes at the Parliament meeting on Wednesday..
Now we have only the USA, France, Qatar and Turkey making up the official “international coalition”. While funding it, Saudi Arabia prefer not to be officially part of it.
All other Europeans and Arab countries have refused to be part of it.
Hollande and Erdogan seem to want to improve their currently unpopular image at home

Syria strike possible by Wednesday: France
2013-08-30 13:02
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Syria-strike-possible-by-Wednesday-France-20130830

Paris – French President Francois Hollande said a military strike on Syria could come by Wednesday and that Britain’s surprise rejection of armed intervention would not affect his government’s stand.

“France wants firm and proportionate action against the Damasacus regime,” he said in an interview to Le Monde daily on Friday. The French parliament is due to meet on Wednesday for an emergency Syria session.

Hollande said the British parliament’s rebuff would not influence the course of action Paris would take.

August 30th, 2013, 7:37 am

 

zoo said:

#686 SIMO

When it comes to the West involvement in WMD, people have a very short memory. No wonder, most western media prefer that their shameful behavior be forgotten.
Thanks for reminding us of the hypocrisy of the West and their selective and political use of ‘humanitarian’ intervention.

August 30th, 2013, 7:42 am

 

zoo said:

Will Obama and Hollande create another Hiroshima in Syria.

Don’t bomb chemical weapon sites in Syria: Experts

Washington, Aug 30:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/international/article5075519.ece

You simply cannot safely bomb a chemical weapon storehouse into oblivion, experts say. That is why they say the United States is probably targeting something other than Syria’s nerve agents.

But now there is concern that bombing other sites could accidentally release dangerous chemical weapons that the US military did not know were there because they have lost track of some of the suspected nerve agents.

Bombing stockpiles of chemical weapons purposely or accidentally would likely kill nearby civilians in an accidental nerve agent release, create a long-lasting environmental catastrophe or both, five experts told The Associated Press. That is because under ideal conditions and conditions would not be ideal in Syria explosives would leave at least 20 to 30 per cent of the poison in lethal form.

“If you drop a conventional munition on a storage facility containing unknown chemical agents and we don’t know exactly what is where in the Syrian arsenal some of those agents will be neutralised and some will be spread,” said Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association, a non-profit that focuses on all types of weaponry. “You are not going to destroy all of them.”

“It’s a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease,” Kimball said. He said some of the suspected storage sites are in or near major Syrian cities like Damascus, Homs and Hama. Those cities have a combined population of well over 2 million people.

August 30th, 2013, 7:54 am

 

Alan said:

cheeeees! monkey!!! mmmm syrian Lovers !!! If Britain had to lick their sputum, France will lick their faeces!!!!

August 30th, 2013, 7:57 am

 

zoo said:

Photos of the rockets finally emerge.
Why would the Syrian army use “improvised and crudely manufactured” rockets to carry the toxic gas instead of the usual rockets?

http://www.janes.com/article/26414/syrian-military-allegedly-used-makeshift-rockets-in-chemical-attack

Syrian military allegedly used makeshift rockets in chemical attack
Jeremy Binnie, London – IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly

There has been speculation that Syria’s military used an unusual and crudely manufactured rocket in the apparent chemical weapons (CWs) attack carried out in the Damascus area on 21 August.

The remnants of this type of rocket have been seen several times in videos and photographs published on the internet earlier this year, but there has been a surge in the amount of imagery featuring the munition in the wake of 21 August incident.

The weapons are broadly similar in layout to what the US military calls improvised rocket-assisted mortars (IRAMs),in that they consist of a comparatively slender rocket motor fitted to a warhead of a far larger calibre.

August 30th, 2013, 8:00 am

 

Alan said:

Problems can occur huge in France soon!!! Care!!!

August 30th, 2013, 8:10 am

 

Afram said:

Its a done deal,no strike on Syria before G20 summit/5-6 September meeting in St Petersburg.

My reasoning:it would be awkward and embarrassing to Putin at the G20 summit.
Leaders of the group of G20 might debate sanctions against Syria.thats it folks!

August 30th, 2013, 8:13 am

 

Alan said:

Obama Stalls on Syrian Strike as Putin sends Anti-Submarine Ship & Missile Cruiser to Med
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/obama-stalls-on-syrian-strike-as-putin-sends-anti-submarine-ship-missile-cruiser-to-med/#QzvivtbvyK9fZPr8.99

August 30th, 2013, 8:16 am

 

zoo said:

A US intelligence report in the building for the military attack justification propaganda. Who cares about the UN inspectors report?

A senior administration official told CBS News late Thursday that on Friday the administration will release a declassified version of an intelligence report that contains “very convincing” evidence that the Syrian government used chemical weapons its own people.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-obama-seems-so-committed-to-striking-syria-soon-2013-8#ixzz2dSCjY1U3

August 30th, 2013, 8:16 am

 

Alan said:

Maduro: “The plan was to kill me in parallel with the Syria attack”
Nicolás Maduro, Venezuela’s President rejected the remarks made by opposition deputy Julio Borges about the assassination claims aired on Monday. “Borges made an irresponsible and anxious statement, saying that (the hit men) that were arrested did not even have firearms to accomplish their task. I can show him all the evidence,” Maduro stated
http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/130828/maduro-the-plan-was-to-kill-me-in-parallel-with-the-syria-attack

August 30th, 2013, 8:19 am

 

zoo said:

Afram

I agree with the dates. The French parliament will vote on the 4th, then Hollande will travel to the G20 ( 5-6 sept). Therefore if something happens, it will be after the 6th September.

Who knows if some sort of compromise to avoid this dangerous escalation emerges at the G20?

August 30th, 2013, 8:23 am

 

Alan said:

France ! don’t stop! for a vindication of the anti-war movement.

August 30th, 2013, 8:26 am

 

Alan said:

Germany ! don’t stop! for a vindication of the anti-war movement.

August 30th, 2013, 8:27 am

 

Alan said:

US ! don’t stop! for a vindication of the anti-war movement.

August 30th, 2013, 8:28 am

 

Hopeful said:

#680 Zoo

“When it comes to the West involvement in WMD, people have a very short memory”

You are wrong Zoo. If you’d cared to listen to the debate in the British House of Commons yesterday, you would have realized that the main reason the motion was defeated was precisely because of the memory of Iraq and WMD.

August 30th, 2013, 8:30 am

 

zoo said:

As the USA wants to weaken the secular Syrian government fighting against Islamists, Al Qaeda is jumping on the opportunity to expand in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Yemen

Al Qaeda grows as its leaders focus on the ‘near enemy’

Murad Batal Al Shishani
Aug 30, 2013


Syria is increasingly becoming a hotbed for jihadist movements and Al Zawahiri devoted a sizeable portion of his latest speech to urging young Muslims to join the jihad in that country. Al Zawahiri will not offer to relinquish his influence over jihadist movements in the Arab world. By contacting Al Qaeda affiliates, he is trying to flex his muscles to regain influence over jihadists in Syria and to show his importance as the emir of Al Qaeda as a trademark of jihadism. This is important for the unity of the movement, which plays a major role in attracting individuals to the Salafi-jihadist push around the world.
….
Unlike bin Laden, Al Zawahiri is focused more on the near enemy; in fact, half of his speeches were focused on that topic. In contrast the far enemy was the focus of only 15 per cent of his speeches.

Al Zawahiri’s inclination towards the “near enemy” could be explained by his background as a leader of a national-jihad group before it adopted a global jihad ideology in the early 1980s in Afghanistan; however, the Arab countries are currently presenting an opportunity for jihadists. In addition to Syria, Al Zawahiri is aiming to exploit the frustration felt by Islamists from what they describe as a coup in Egypt. On August 3, he said that “what happened [in Egypt by ousting Muhammad Morsi] is the biggest proof of the failure of democratic means to achieve an Islamic government”.

Al Zawahiri’s influence has also been marked in Sinai, a troubled area and a fertile ground for militants, and where newly-emerging jihadist groups have pledged their allegiance to him. Other places in the Arab world that represent an opportunity for the near-enemy thinking of Al Zawahiri include Libya, Somalia and the borders between Tunisia and Algeria.

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/al-qaeda-grows-as-its-leaders-focus-on-the-near-enemy#ixzz2dSGd3lET
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August 30th, 2013, 8:31 am

 

Hopeful said:

#693 Zoo

I am glad you posted the photo. Here is a video showing Assad’s forces loading and firing that exact same missile

http://youtu.be/y6CZtF6pGvQ

August 30th, 2013, 8:41 am

 

zoo said:

#703 Hopeful

The UK debate was not about the crimes that the West has done in mass murdering but just about the possibility of being humiliated again by being drawn into a war under a pretext that could turn out to be false.
It is all about the West ego and pride, not at all a sincere regret for thousands of civilians who died because of that mistake. They couldn’t care less.

August 30th, 2013, 8:46 am

 

omen said:

assad gassing infants is child’s play:

[cartoon]

https://twitter.com/YallaSouriya/status/373421135062261760

August 30th, 2013, 8:49 am

 

zoo said:

#705 Hopeful

What are you talking about? they don’t look alike at all.
The ones loaded in the video look like standard rockets not makeshifts.
I am not a military expert but it is obvious to me.
Are you a military expert?

August 30th, 2013, 8:54 am

 

Hopeful said:

# 706 Zoo

It was about 550+ representatives reflecting on the mood and thoughts of their constituents who have elected them to represent them. They presented, debated, and voted. Some Brits did not want to get involved because of their egos, some did not because of humanitarian reasons, some simply wanted the government to focus internally stay out of world affairs. It does not matter what their intentions were, what matters is that their representatives presented the people’s point of views, exactly as they were supposed to do because this is their job!

Compare that to the pathetic state of affairs of the Syrian parliament, whose job is to rubber-stamp what the president decides to do, glorifies him, and inform on any nay-Sayers among their constituents.

That, my friend, was why there was a revolution. We want our country and government to be like Great Britain.

August 30th, 2013, 9:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Limited intervention will do more harm than most think,the main problem is Obama, do we really believe that a hesitant reluctant president can change to a hawk? Obama should have intervened a year ago, the credibility of US is at stake, war will weaken Persia ability to develope nuclear power,it is a fact that US can not run away from military power in the ME,let alone run from the ME.
The intervention should take away Assad military resources,if it fails Assad stature will improve, he will be much more dangerous to the Sunnis in the whole area.and American interest will be seriously compromised.
If HA makes any action ,HA has to be hit really hard

August 30th, 2013, 9:10 am

 

Hopeful said:

#708 Zoo

“The ones loaded in the video look like standard rockets not makeshifts.
I am not a military expert but it is obvious to me.”

I am no military expert either, but it is obvious to me that they look similar. As if one could tell from a picture what a “standard” rocket is and what a “makeshift” one is.

What I saw in both was a skinny cylinder with “flares” at the end. What differences did you see?

August 30th, 2013, 9:15 am

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

” We want our country and government to be like Great Britain.”

It took more than 300 years to reach that and after having colonialised, exploited shamelessly less developed countries, enriching on the back of the third world and killing millions.

Thank God, Syria does not have such a dirty past and it will recover as it is a proud and tolerant country.
Democracy is not an aim, it is a path.

August 30th, 2013, 9:15 am

 

ghufran said:

Damascus rose (I love the name btw),
an attack on Syria, if it happens, will not be as big as some here want and it will definitely backfire as it will reduce support for armed rebels and expat opposition, most of whom have been begging for this since 2011. Naturally, Syrians will forget, for a while, how awful the regime is and focus on defending their country. A limited attack will be very helpful for the regime, however Assad will be asked by Russia not to respond, and a large attack will be devastating and will certainly widen the war, I think there should be no attack at all but efforts must focus on pressuring Assad to leave in an orderly manner and let our Syrian brothers and sisters rebuild Syria without the blessing of Assads and Makhloufs.
(Germany opted out today. majed ,please keep posting, your posts are entertaining)
This is what came out after Obama’s consultation with the Congress:
“Tonight the administration informed us that they have a ‘broad range of options’ for Syria but failed to layout a single option. They also did not provide a timeline, a strategy for Syria and the Middle East, or a plan for the funds to execute such an option,” said Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Oklahoma after the call.

August 30th, 2013, 9:18 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

I expect the decision in England will be reversed soon,after secret discussions
Persian nuclear program is at stake

August 30th, 2013, 9:22 am

 

zoo said:

#711 Hopeful

I don’t know but their size difference is obvious. On the video, they look like all the rockets we have seen on videos about the Syrian army.
Then why will the Syrian army use makeshifts rockets?
It raises more doubts about the scenario that they were sent by the Syrian army…

August 30th, 2013, 9:22 am

 

revenire said:

Hopeful you do know that Eliot Higgins aka “Brown Moses” is an unemployed video gamer right? He doesn’t work – forcing his wife to work. He is not a military weapons expert. He is a video gaming addict. If you don’t believe me research his past. It is all there in his own words. This isn’t me saying this. It is him. I don’t expect you to believe me. Do the research on Google.

I assert you believe Moses because you WANT to believe him. You are no weapons expert. Neither is he. You simply HAVE to believe him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Higgins

“In 2012, when Higgins began blogging the Syrian civil war, he was an unemployed finance and admin worker who spent his days taking care of his child at home.”

“Higgins has no background or training in weapons and is entirely self-taught, saying that ‘Before the Arab spring I knew no more about weapons that the average Xbox owner. I had no knowledge beyond what I’d learned from Arnold Schwarzenegger and Rambo.’ He has never been to Syria and has no friends or family there.”

August 30th, 2013, 9:30 am

 

Hopeful said:

# 715 Zoo

“Then why will the Syrian army use makeshifts rockets?”

A few relatives living in Damascus have personally told me that, on that day, there were unusual activities. After weeks of calm, all the sudden they all heard explosions and gunfires throughout the day. It was obvious that the army was launching an offensive on the rebels.

To me, among all theories I have heard or read, the one that seems the most plausible is that the army fired rockets with sarin gas to clear out rebel areas before entering them. Something must have gone wrong with the plan and a few missiles landed in heavily populated areas and killed civilians in their sleep.

August 30th, 2013, 9:32 am

 

revenire said:

Majed the UK will not reverse its decision under any circumstances.

August 30th, 2013, 9:32 am

 

ghufran said:

This is why there has to be accountability in Syria, people who committed atrocities and war crimes from all sides should not be able to get away with it:

Footage has emerged which reportedly shows the aftermath of an incendiary bomb being dropped on a school playground in northern Syria, leaving children with napalm-like burns over their bodies.
Footage has emerged which reportedly shows the aftermath of an incendiary bomb being dropped on a school playground in northern Syria, leaving children with napalm-like burns over their bodies.
Witnesses told a team from the BBC’s Panorama program that a fighter jet had repeatedly flown overhead, as if searching for a target, before dropping the bomb.
The attack killed more than 10 pupils and left many more seriously injured, according to Panorama.
Footage showed adults and children, their clothes burned from their bodies, being treated on the floor of a basic hospital. Many had burns to more than 50 per cent of their bodies, it was claimed.
(question: who will hold erdugang, Bandar and HBJ accountable ? )

August 30th, 2013, 9:32 am

 

revenire said:

Hopeful your logic is flawed. For Syria to have used chemical weapons would be suicide. Chemical weapons have zero military use. That is why they aren’t used in wars, not out of some humanitarian concern. They’re just not very good weapons for killing the enemy.

If Syria had used them Russia and Iran would abandon Syria. The world would attack Syria.

Can’t you see this is nothing but a set-up to get intervention? You want intervention and would side with Satan if he promised to help rid Syria of Assad. Just be honest and say you don’t care about the truth.

August 30th, 2013, 9:35 am

 

revenire said:

Ghufran I expect these sort of atrocities to escalate. They are all designed to get the US to attack.

The opposition will kill as many Syrian children as they can in order to get the US to attack.

August 30th, 2013, 9:36 am

 

Sami said:

“Then why will the Syrian army use makeshifts rockets?”

Your “heroes” have been using improvised rockets and explosives for sometime now. IRAM’s have been utilized many times over by the Assadists militia, not to mention the plentiful barrel bombs that they have dropped.

Hopeful,

Brown Moses has compiled many different videos and photos trying to trace the munition used during the CW. Below are a few examples:

http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/2013/08/photographs-showing-measurements-of.html
http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/2013/08/were-un-inspectors-examining-chemical.html
http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/2013/08/collected-media-of-munitions-linked-to.html

August 30th, 2013, 9:37 am

 

zoo said:

#713 Gufran

Davutoglu revealed the West current thinking when he surprisingly declared that “Bashar al Assad should be forced to participate in Geneva II” . He did not ask that Bashar be sidelined. By saying so, he totally contradicted the opposition’s two years old motto and admit that Bashar is an integral part of the solution.

Turkey and the West seem to have realized that supported by the army, Bashar Al Assad appears to be the only single force that has the capability to counter Al Qaeda expansion in the Middle East.
If he leaves, the army will collapse and the Islamist will take over Damascus and expand into Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon and reach Israel.

The West is in a bind. They want to punish Bashar but not enough to destroy the Syrian army’s capabilities to deal with Al Qaeda and not enough to force Bashar to leave. A lose-lose situation.

The attack may degenerate into a regional confrontation as it may go smoothly. That’s the gamble the West is hesitant to play.

In both cases it’s the opposition that will be “forced to participate in Geneva II”.

August 30th, 2013, 9:40 am

 

Hopeful said:

#716 Rev

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Who is Eliot Higgins and why should I care about him??

August 30th, 2013, 9:42 am

 

zoo said:

#722 SAMI

Please point to your precise source, as none of the links you have put indicate that

“IRAM’s have been utilized many times over by the Assadists militia”

August 30th, 2013, 9:45 am

 

zoo said:

Revenire

If the USA continues to be hesitant to act, I expect another chemical weapons “attack” to happen in another rebels-held area.

August 30th, 2013, 9:47 am

 

revenire said:

Sami’s source is the cannibals. No one believes these animals. In the coming conflagration they will all be annihilated.

August 30th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

zoo said:

717. Hopeful

Are you a military expert? otherwise your speculations are just hot air to make you feel good as obviously you also try to convince yourself.

August 30th, 2013, 9:50 am

 

revenire said:

Zoo I agree. The rebels will stage another incident. They will kill more women and children to force Obama to attack. It is expected.

Some here seem to think that Syria hasn’t expected the US to attack.

Syria has expected, and planned for, a US-led attack for over two years.

This is not a surprise.

Assad said all along that this “revolution” had the US, and the Zionists, standing behind it.

Look who pants with an almost sexual frenzy for the US to attack: Israel.

August 30th, 2013, 9:51 am

 

ghufran said:

Syria crisis: France is no longer shoulder-to-shoulder with US

‘Cheese-eating surrender monkeys’ again risk American wrath as François Hollande steps back from air strikes

John Lichfield- The Independent

Thursday 29 August 2013

“Everything must be done to find a political solution but it will not arrive unless the Coalition is capable of acting as an alternative (government),” he said. “We will not get there unless the international community puts an end to this escalation of violence of which this chemical massacre is only one example.”
His remarks appeared to disappoint Mr Jarba, who called for “a punitive strike against the regime”.
(Hollande tried today to repair the damage done by his remarks 24 hours earlier by suggesting that his government does not need any permission to attack Syria)

August 30th, 2013, 9:51 am

 

Hopeful said:

#720 Rev

“Can’t you see this is nothing but a set-up to get intervention”

What I see is that all western countries, US and England included, are desperately trying to avoid intervention, NOT set-up for it. Yes, Cameron wanted to humiliate himself in the House of Common so he staged this whole thing?

If you can convince me that some forces within the opposition did it to “drag” the west into this, I would say three things:

1. Damn this stupid arrogant and incompetent regime that, after 2.5 years of choosing a military route to solve a political problem, have only made things worst and worst day after day.

2. Damn this president, whose citizens are being killed by chemical weapons by terrorists, but neither he nor his media offer any sympathy for them or their families.

3. The criminals who did this must be brought to justice.

August 30th, 2013, 9:53 am

 

Sami said:

“Please point to your precise source, as none of the links you have put indicate that”

Those sources were to backup Hopeful’s claim. It is well documented that your heroes use improvised bombs:

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/syrian-forces-improvised-arms-desperate-measures-or-deliberate-aid/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rqX9OK1dBDY/Uhx3c7-PyqI/AAAAAAAAFGo/KzXJd-g5GuU/s1600/IRAMs.jpg

As for the barrel bombs, there many videos showing your “heroes” dropping them on civilian location while they smile and laugh about it. The word hyena is very befitting to them and their filthy treasonous supporters.

August 30th, 2013, 9:55 am

 

revenire said:

SAMI see post #716 for background on Moses. He is trash. His fantasies are just that – fantasies. He is no military intelligence background. The fact you cite him shows the quality of your thinking: weak.

To offer us Moses as proof is ridiculous. Only Moses groupies worship his nonsense.

When the war starts you will see Syrian women and children slaughtered by the US and Israel. You will cheer their blood running in the streets of Damascus. The army will fight.

August 30th, 2013, 9:57 am

 

revenire said:

Sami sorry those sources you cite are all the same.

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/syrian-forces-improvised-arms-desperate-measures-or-deliberate-aid/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rqX9OK1dBDY/Uhx3c7-PyqI/AAAAAAAAFGo/KzXJd-g5GuU/s1600/IRAMs.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qup5hCuJ1Pw&feature=player_embedded

You believe them Sami.

They prove nothing at all.

Arguing over this is pointless.

Let’s get the war started. C’mon Obama – start murdering Syrian babies. Start attacking our hospitals and schools with your ‘smart bombs’ while the cannibals cheer.

The army has planned for this war for years. Iran and Hezbollah are ready.

Attack cowards.

August 30th, 2013, 9:59 am

 

Sami said:

I have in the past engaged the fake pretender troll. I will never stoop so low to engage him again.

August 30th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

revenire said:

Hopeful Cameron knew he had no proof. I read the British report in full. A .pdf is available online from the UK government. They have zero proof it was the government. The US has no proof either. If they did they’d have shared it at the UN for the world to judge. They would have been humiliated.

Can’t you see that if they have solid evidence they’d have shared it at the UN?

If they had anything other than Israeli produced communication intercepts (as they admit) they’d have shown us.

August 30th, 2013, 10:06 am

 

revenire said:

Sami you’re the fake pretender troll.

August 30th, 2013, 10:06 am

 

zoo said:

The whole exercise is to weaken the Syrian government to allow the opposition to participate to Geneva II in a strong position.
The question is: how willing would the Syrian government be to participate in Geneva after having been brutally attacked by foreign countries

http://www.lorientlejour.com/article/830499/entre-samedi-et-mercredi-tout-peut-arriver.html
Scarlett Haddad

Officially, it would thus be a reprisal operation but strategic experts say it is best to weaken the Syrian regime to allow the holding of the conference in Geneva with the opposition in a strong position.
One must first neutralize the Syrian air force that are a key factor for the regime, but also in passing weaken the special units that are the strength of Syrian troops, and at the same time create or air exclusion zones or buffer zones to the north on the border with Turkey and south to the border with Jordan and Israel, to eliminate any risk of overflow that could threaten the Jewish state.

Sources close to Iran reveal about these ideas were discussed with Iranian officials during the two almost simultaneous visits by the emissary of Ban Ki-moon, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Jeffrey Feltman and by the Sultan Qaboos of Oman in the Emirate in Tehran last week.
The same sources indicate that the former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State has sought reassurance with his Iranian counterparts, even to assert that Western strikes are limited and are not intended to bring down the regime, but simply make “possible” the holding of the conference in Geneva, opening the way for a balanced political solution. Feltman, specified by the same sources, basically wanted by his approach, to neutralize Iran and help respond to Western strikes against Syria, while asking him to put pressure on the Syrian regime and Hezbollah for that they do not engage in reprisals against Israel

August 30th, 2013, 10:08 am

 

Afram said:

HI Zoo:
Let’s wait awhile and see.”now”,in the present time Obamas’Red Line’Became Blurred &losing it freshness.
Good day mate

August 30th, 2013, 10:14 am

 

revenire said:

The baby killers are salivating at the prospect of murdering Syrian children with their ‘smart’ bombs. They’re cowards. They will be annihilated.

August 30th, 2013, 10:15 am

 

ghufran said:

This is really strange, the president of a major European country telling Syrians that they have 5 days before bombs start falling on their heads:
استبعد الرئيس الفرنسي فرانسوا هولاند احتمال أن توجه الولايات المتحدة وحلفاؤها ضربة الى سورية قبل الأربعاء القادم.
WSJ said that most of the portable and valuable military assets in Syria have been repositioned and that a reassessment by the US may be needed to ensure ” good results” of the anticipated bombing campaign !!

August 30th, 2013, 10:17 am

 

revenire said:

“The first thing that will be targeted in Israhell is their water facilities and their gas and oil pipelines and their electricity centers.”

August 30th, 2013, 10:26 am

 

zoo said:

Syria passive resistance?

There are running information in Damascus that contrary that what would happen in the West, many civilians are moving and sleeping in airports and other locations that the USA has declared as targets.
They seem ready to protect these sites with their lives.
The longer the USA delays its decision to attack the more time the passive resistance have to get organized.
If these information is confirmed and published in the media, the USA may have a even weaker case to attack as it may cause massive deaths among civilians.

August 30th, 2013, 10:29 am

 

Hopeful said:

#736 Rev

There have shown significant evidence pointing to the government. What evidence do you have to show (or point me to) that the rebels did it? I have seen none yet, and I am being open minded here. What is your evidence that the rebels did it? Other than the claim that they are bad people who are trying to set up the gimme.

August 30th, 2013, 10:32 am

 

revenire said:

Hopeful show me any evidence at all. Just something. Tell me why in God’s name the Syrian government would commit suicide by using these ineffective weapons? They can kill thousands more with conventional weapons.

August 30th, 2013, 10:42 am

 

annie said:

Al-Assad No Longer an Acceptable Negotiator
Hassan Haidar
Thursday 29 August 2013

The size and targets of the imminent Western military strike against the Syrian regime forces are linked to the main political message it will address, i.e. that Bashar al-Assad is no longer an acceptable party to negotiate over his country’s future during the Geneva 2 meeting. This means that the anticipated settlement conference might never take place if Al-Assad remains in power and abstains from surrendering it to another person or side.

An international ruling was issued to condemn Al-Assad and hold him responsible for the killing of hundreds of civilians using chemical weapons, which clearly implies his classification as a war criminal, who should be prosecuted and not negotiated with, and whose opinion in regard to the new Syria should not be heard.

http://alhayat.com/Details/546392

August 30th, 2013, 10:44 am

 

ghufran said:

In a statement released Friday, former President Jimmy Carter said “a punitive military response without a U.N. Security Council mandate or broad support from NATO and the Arab League would be illegal under international law and unlikely to alter the course of the war.”

August 30th, 2013, 10:45 am

 

Hopeful said:

# 745 Rev

You already said you read the report. That was their evidence that the regime did it. I saw that evidence. I read it, now show me the evidence that the rebels did it. Any reports from anyone? And videos? Any pictures? Anything from the Syrian government?

August 30th, 2013, 10:59 am

 

Uzair8 said:

745. Revenire said:

‘They can kill thousands more with conventional weapons.’

Your point being they wouldn’t need to resort to chemical weapons?

Ok, so why hasn’t the regime been able to clear the long-held rebel areas in and around Damascus (incl countryside)?

Have conventional weapons failed to dislodge well entrenched rebels?

Surely chemical weapons would do the trick?

August 30th, 2013, 11:01 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ghufran said hollands gave Assad till after wednesday, while Holland said there will be strike BEFORE wednesday
from fabrications to changing statement with intent to deceive

Revenir
If you scramble the word S P I N E you come out with a name more appropriate for you

August 30th, 2013, 11:02 am

 

ghufran said:

The Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi spoke with CNN about a potential western-backed airstrike on Syria. Despite condemning the Syrian regime for its reported use of chemical weapons on its own civiliians, al-Arabi warned that U.S.-led strikes could intensify anti-American feeling in the region.

France 24 has a report from Damascus with a video, here is the text:

In the Syrian capital Damascus, there is relief that the bellicose rhetoric from the United States and France seems to have calmed – for the time being.
The day before the British parliament voted against joining any military action, FRANCE 24 spoke to residents of the capital – under the close supervision of regime handlers – amid an atmosphere of relative calm that belied the ferocity of a civil war that is tearing the rest of the country apart.
“Yesterday I was beside myself, I was scared, I was crying,” said one resident in the city’s oldest covered market. “I left the house, left the children and came and spent some time outside, in places like this one. Today’s going better than yesterday, thank God.”
Another local was more defiant: “Yes, America was meant to bomb us today, they thought that we were scared. But in the end it didn’t work, because they know that if they attack, they’re going to set off the third world war.”
In an interview with FRANCE 24, Syrian Justice Minister Najm Hamad al-Ahmad compared possible military intervention against his country to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
“What is the point of these strikes?” he asked. “They’re doing all this so that some American or French dignitary comes back in a few years and says ‘oh sorry, we made a mistake’, and in the meantime civilians and children have already been killed.”

( I have a number of friends and relatives from Damascus, none of them supports bombing the world’s most ancient city, you have to be a traitor or a psychopath to call for an invasion against your birth country)

August 30th, 2013, 11:03 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The investigators began leaving Damascus
Obama now is meeting with security team

What a coward Assad is hiding his generals in hospitals and schools

August 30th, 2013, 11:07 am

 

Syrian Gilgamish said:

at the end I would like to comment abt sth really important that the prof mentioned that the regime of al assad is not an entity from the point of view of Syrian, the real problem is all abt Alassad, either alassad could stay and control and make his statement or he’s gonna be defeated and the both side believe they’re gonna defeat each other, so once this guy defeated the Syrian are going to find a better way to understand each other and organize their troubles, since Alassad carrying out all these crimes using a small group minority of people there’s no more any chance to fight into a deeper conflict, he’s a lucky because he own all extreme weapons in Syria, once he lose those effective weapons he’s gonna be forced to listen to what people want.

August 30th, 2013, 11:13 am

 

Syrian said:

687. ZOO said:
“662. Syrian
About Sultan Qabous
If you know the answer, why do you ask the question?
Sultan Qabous has never been involved in high political matter in the region.
But the media and you know better…”

I did not know the answer, the link I put was the 1st linked popped up when I wrote the word Qaboos in google search.
What I knew from reading bits here and there, is that the reclusive Qaboos ,as you correctly described him, was carrying a message to assure Iran that there will be a limited small attack and for Iran not to over react.!
I asked you if you have an expert opinion or an inside information, while I did not expect you to give us the real scoop, I did not expect you to post a link from 2011.

August 30th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

ghufran said:

This has the potential to destroy the case against bombing Syria if it gets confirmed, the claim came from the AP not SANA:

Paul Joseph Watson

Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press journalist Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.
“From numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families….many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the (deadly) gas attack,” writes Gavlak.
Rebels told Gavlak that they were not properly trained on how to handle the chemical weapons or even told what they were. It appears as though the weapons were initially supposed to be given to the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra.
“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” one militant named ‘J’ told Gavlak.
His claims are echoed by another female fighter named ‘K’, who told Gavlak, “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”
Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of an opposition rebel, also told Gavlak, “My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” describing them as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.” The father names the Saudi militant who provided the weapons as Abu Ayesha.
According to Abdel-Moneim, the weapons exploded inside a tunnel, killing 12 rebels.
“More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government,” writes Gavlak.
If accurate, this story could completely derail the United States’ rush to attack Syria which has been founded on the “undeniable” justification that Assad was behind the chemical weapons attack. Dale Gavlak’s credibility is very impressive. He has been a Middle East correspondent for the Associated Press for two decades and has also worked for National Public Radio (NPR) and written articles for BBC News.
The website on which the story originally appeared – Mint Press (which is currently down as a result of huge traffic it is attracting to the article) is a legitimate media organization based in Minnesota. The Minnesota Post did a profile on them last year.

August 30th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

Uzair8 said:

SubhanAllah.

Wow, Ma Shah Allah!

See the contrast.

The brave syrian people braved protests and took bullets in their chests, beatings and torture. They took helicopter strafing, artillery shelling and more.

Now the thugs are in a difficult situation they hide in schools and hospitals just like the cowards they are. Cowardly bullies. They want to rule over the courageous syrian people?

August 30th, 2013, 11:28 am

 

zoo said:

For the USA, the usually “poodle” UK is now totally out of the loop

Analysis: Syria vote humiliates UK’s Cameron, strains special relationship
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-britain-cameron-analysis-20130830,0,6011639.story

No more. After Cameron lost Thursday’s vote to support the principle of military action against Syria to deter President Bashar al-Assad from using chemical weapons, Washington can no longer rely on Britain for automatic military backup.

August 30th, 2013, 11:35 am

 

zoo said:

The UN team promised to go back to Syria to complete their original mandate

Syria rejects any partial UN report
Updated: 2013-08-30 23:12
( Xinhua)

DAMASCUS – Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid al- Moallem said Friday that his country rejects any partial report by the UN before its investigation team’s mission is completed, state- run SANA news agency reported.
..
“While the UN team did not probe all reported instances of chemical weapon use, it promised to return to Syria after submitting its preliminary findings to the UN headquarters in New York.”

August 30th, 2013, 11:38 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Ghufran why didn’t you provide a source? You got me worried with that headline and claim it was AP so I had to investigate.

Google search on Paul Joseph Watson comes up with Info wars and similar. Google News search on his name gives us that headline under ‘Iranian.com’

‘Rebels Admit Responsibility for Chemical Weapons Attack | Infowars’

August 30th, 2013, 11:38 am

 

zoo said:

From Qatar, Al Qaradawi support the ‘revenge’ attack during friday sermon.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-qaradawi-20130830,0,6290359.story

“We wish we were able to take revenge for our brothers who have been killed…in their hundreds, but God prepares those who would take revenge for them,” Egyptian-born Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawi said in his weekly sermon from Doha, where he lives.

August 30th, 2013, 11:45 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Uzair
Ghufran is a fabricator, and propagator of lies, don’t believe a word from him

August 30th, 2013, 11:47 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Not only Ahmad Gharib was arrested in Lebanon, also Hashem Minqara was arrested,as he knew about tripoli bombing

August 30th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

Afram said:

Sarin was used by japanese terrorists in a subway several years back.something of the same sort was shown by Jihadists on U-Tube a few months ago, and was successful in killing rabbits. home made delivery systems are all over the place,from Qassam’s in gaza,to home made units on the syrian rebels.ie;there is no ironclad proof that the army committed the deed.the fact that someone has a” p.e n i s” does not lead to inconclusive proof that he committed rape.

August 30th, 2013, 12:14 pm

 

apple_mini said:

There is no point to engage a discussion with the opposition here. The crisis has gone to the point that is way beyond the opposition can handle.

If you pay attention to those major news media in the world, you will find overwhelmly public opinion is against the upcoming strike.

After UK Parliament voted down the military intervention, the public opinion around the world sees there is hope to stop their goverments’ mad war. Never have we seen such a strong opposition voice from people to be decided from the policy from their governments.

Italian government has clearly stated their air bases will not be used to attack Syria. Even the NATO is fractured on this extremely unpopular military intervention.

It all comes down how broad the strike will be. Hollande says their goal is to push Assad on the negotiation position. That is very dangerous calculation. I’m not even sure US administration would approve that.

If the regime is cornered, expect escalation of its retaliation to fire up the whole region.

When that happens, the civil war will swiftly diminish and change to something no Syrian wants to see, regardless you are pro or anti the regime.

August 30th, 2013, 12:16 pm

 

Ilya said:

Facebook Post Said to Be by Assad’s Son Dares Americans to Attack
A Facebook post said to be written by the 11-year-old son of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, and “liked” or commented on by several people who appear to be the children and grandchildren of other senior members of Mr. Assad’s government, may offer a glimpse into the mindset of Syria’s ruling elite as the country braces for a potential Western strike in response to a chemical weapons attack on Aug. 21.

It is impossible to confirm whether the Facebook account does, in fact, belong to the son, Hafez al-Assad, and aspects of it invite doubt. For example, the owner of the account wrote that he was a graduate of Oxford University and a player for a Barcelona soccer team, neither of which would be likely to appear on the résumé of an 11-year-old boy in Damascus.

But those claims could also be read as the ambitions of a child, and there are reasons to believe that the account may actually belong to Hafez.

The owner of the account wrote that he was a graduate of a Montessori school in Damascus, a detail of the Assad children’s lives that Vogue magazine reported in a February 2011 profile of their mother, Asma al-Assad. That article portrayed them as typical suburban children who played with remote control cars and watched Tim Burton movies on an iMac as they lounged around the family home, described as running “on wildly democratic principles.” It has since been removed from the Vogue Web site, but Joshua Landis, a well-known scholar of Syrian politics, posted a copy to his blog.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/facebook-post-said-to-be-by-assads-son-dares-americans-to-attack/?smid=tw-nytimes

August 30th, 2013, 12:17 pm

 

Afram said:

758. Uzair8 said:

Ghufran why didn’t you provide a source? You got me worried with that headline and claim it was AP so I had to investigate.
———-
Uzair8/ Ghufran is right,can you say TAKBEEEEER

This article is a collaboration between Dale Gavlak reporting for Mint Press News (also of the Associated Press) and Yahya Ababneh

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.

By Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh | August 29, 2013

Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and the Associated Press. Gavlak has been stationed in Amman, Jordan for the Associated Press for over two decades. An expert in Middle Eastern Affairs, Gavlak currently covers the Levant region of the Middle East for AP, National Public Radio and Mint Press News, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at dgavlak@mintpressnews.com

Yahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master’s degree in journalism, He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

August 30th, 2013, 12:39 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

AFRAM

I haven’t the time to look into it right now, perhaps someone else will, plenty of good activists out there who do the investigative stuff.

Just one point for now. It’s not right to mention he is also AP when the article in question is Mintpress. Writers can write for different publications and it can be that their writing is very different from one to the other.

Perhaps what he has written for Mintpress he wouldn’t get away with on AP? In effect he could be writing crazy stuff and those propagating it are mentioning AP to give it some credibility (just by association).

You see what I’m getting at?

August 30th, 2013, 12:58 pm

 

zoo said:

Afram, Uzair8

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

I’ve posted that article on the 29th. It is a very important article that has not got much attention in the media. We can guess why.

https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/should-the-use-of-chemical-weapons-prompt-a-us-attack-in-syria/?cp=14#comment-388656

August 30th, 2013, 1:21 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is the type of language some of you do not want to hear:

Jean Pascal Zanders, who worked for the European Union Institute for Security Studies from 2008 to 2013 and concentrated on the non-proliferation of chemical weapons says until the U.N. investigative team presents its report, “we need to keep our minds open that the events of last Wednesday could in whole or partially have alternative explanations.”

(By refusing to allow the UN to finish its investigation and by insisting on a “bombs first and ask later” approach, supporters of a strike on Syria seem like a thief who is about to get caught lying. I have not taken a position on the subject because we are still unsure who used CW in Syria, both parties are brutal and willing to take extreme measures to inflict death on their opponents but in this particular case, Assad has the least to gain from using CW when his troops were advancing)

August 30th, 2013, 1:23 pm

 

zoo said:

No one has any doubts that civilians died of toxic gas inhalation. Hundred of videos show it. Yet not a single video proves who did i. Yet the US use the videos as the core of the ‘proof’. The rest of the ‘proofs’ are assumptions and flimsy ‘intelligence’ information

Released US Report “Proving” Assad’s Use Of Chemical Weapons Is Based On YouTube Clips: Full Report Attached
….

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-30/released-us-report-proving-assads-use-chemical-weapons-based-youtube-clips-full-repo

In other words, America may be about to launch World War III on the basis of one hundred videos, which it believes “