The Children of Syria: A War and Image Industry - Syria Comment

The Children of Syria: A War and Image Industry

by Asaad Al-Saleh

Photo: IMB

When writing my new book, Voices of the Arab Spring, I did not feature the testimonials of children. Though the book surveys participants from various backgrounds, differing in age, politics, and education, it doesn’t address the Arab Spring from the perspective of children, even though they are also actors in it. I chose not to cover their stories because they are being used and abused to promote propaganda in Syria. The immoral exposure of children to the war is heightened by the disturbing fact that they have been used repeatedly throughout the conflict to endorse various political positions. During the bloodiest confrontations of the Arab Spring, those between the Syrian regime and the hundreds of factions fighting it, children have become victims of the violence resulting from both the uprising and the subsequent civil war. Despite this tragedy, children are still used in the rhetoric of revolt, war, and jihad.

Reports and studies marking the fourth anniversary of the uprising and civil war in Syria show that more than 4 million people are refugees outside the country and 7.6 million are internally displaced. Almost half of these are children whose need for assistance (such as shelter and education) is only partially being met. Of the 200,000 killed in the 4-year span of the conflict, over 10,000 were children, some of whom died as a result of torture. Citing the international standard that the percentage of civilians targeted in war should not exceed 2%, reports on Syria point out that the percentage of targeted children and women reached 4.5%. On the same occasion, the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) raised awareness about the emotional trauma affecting Syrian children, some of whom are suffering the effects of rape and the loss of parents. Labeling them the “lost generation,” UNICEF also reported that more than 20% of Syrian schools have been either destroyed or rendered effectively unusable because they are currently used for shelter by displaced families.

As if this tragic plight were not enough, images of children are used in Syria as a propaganda tool by many sides. For the regime of Bashar al-Assad, a rhetoric of defending children has been employed to portray its enemies as abusers of children and the regime as their protector. In September 2013, the regime aired on television the testimony of a 16-year-old girl named Rawan Qadah, who gave details about the alleged “jihad sex” she was asked to perform at the request of her father. The opposition immediately responded by stating that Rawan had been kidnapped, forced to tell the same lies the regime was spreading about its opponents, and appeared too young to be a reliable witness in regards to verifying the regime’s claims. Rawan’s story demonstrates how children can be easily used for political agendas in the context of war. For some revolutionaries, or those who revolted peacefully in Syria four years ago, it was likewise customary to use children while calling for regime change and to attract the world’s attention to al-Assad’s crimes. This position comes from the assumption that children are “part of the revolution” and that their role must therefore be presented. The world cares about children, and the situation in Syria has been exceedingly desperate. Thus, children are used to provoke emotions and elicit more attention, political pressure, and eventually humanitarian or military intervention to “help” or “save” the children. The regime’s behavior is highly unethical concerning Syrian children considering the widespread displacement and death that occurs for the sake of al-Assad’s staying in power.

As for rebel groups that use terrorism in Syria, children are considered the future of Islam—as it is envisioned by al-Qaeda or ISIS. Their participation in the terrorists’ programs, most of which are symbolic but are sometimes extremely graphic, is done without the least attention to legal, moral, or psychological considerations. One of the early instances of the use of children’s images was performed by Jabhat al-Nusra, the al-Qaeda affiliate. In June 2013, a video of a child about 5-years-old was circulated by al-Nusra to promote their dogma. The child, who was carried on a man’s shoulder, was chanting a song full of bigotry and terrorist rhetoric:

Our leader is Bin Laden … O you who terrorized America

We destroyed America … With a civilian airplane

The [World] Trade Center became a heap of sand

O you Nusayri Police … Wait for us O Alawites

We are coming to slaughter you … Unheeding any convention

[The child is then handed a knife to pretend that he is killing someone, before continuing:]

They say I am a terrorist … “It is my honor,” I replied

Our terrorism is highly praised … It is a divine call.

Children often play games imagining themselves as heroes with guns to fight the bad guys. But in Syria they are being dragged into a real war zone, even as instigators. The image industry in Syria uses journalistic and political outlets to make children represent a cause that is not theirs. It circulates hundreds of images of children carrying conventional weapons or dressed in military costumes, and more recently playing with slaughtered heads as part of ISIS propaganda. Such visibility is hardly the outcome of genuine consent of the child since he or she is not cognizant of the meaning or the consequences of participating in such functions. These children are growing up in one of the ugliest war zones in the world. One day, they will tell stories full of bad guys, including those who let this war drag on and on.Voices of the Arab Spring: Personal Stories from the Arab Revolutions

The regime, the opposition, and the jihadis in Syria are all responsible for such unethical manipulation of children and their images. These players need to grow up and leave children alone.

 

Asaad Al-Saleh is Assistant Professor of Arabic Literature and Comparative Literary and Cultural Studies at the University of Utah and author of the new book Voices of the Arab Spring: Personal Stories from the Arab Revolutions

Comments (101)


ALAN said:

/uprising and civil war in Syria? ha ha ha/
Assistant Professor of Arabic Literature and Comparative Literary and Cultural Studies at the University of Utah ? What are they doing with you in America? To such a degree brainwashing intellectuals?

There is a split in the U.S. deep state between the Saudi-Israeli neocon “everything destroyers ” camp and the Big realpolitik U.S. unipolarity school of destruction spread out over many decades. it’s war 24*7 from the perpetual warmongering nation.. let’s not fool ourselves with the bullshit..
U.S. Military Planes Cleared to Refuel Saudi Jets Bombing Yemeni Targets.

PS: Pentagon Chief: We Might Bomb Iran Even if Nuclear Deal Reached
As the P5+1 nuclear negotiations – ostensibly seeking to ensure a peaceful future for the Middle East – conclude, they were prefaced by a surprising announcement. On Tuesday, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said that even if a deal was reached, the US reserves the right to bomb Iran.

April 3rd, 2015, 5:31 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

The Middle East has become a wasteland of primitive barbarism. Cavemen of the 21st century. Somebody isn’t getting the right education.

April 3rd, 2015, 6:09 pm

 

Observer said:

Well my dear historian in residence and the Ibn T Kool Aid drinker par excellence.
Here is some useful reading for you. Once again, this is advice from you American Atheist friend.

http://www.us-iran.org/news/2015/3/31/dark-new-geopolitics-of-the-middle-east

It is clear that the so called secular minorities are an oxymoron.

April 3rd, 2015, 7:13 pm

 

Ghufran said:

UAE and Khaliji media have started a campaign of propaganda aiming at selling GCC political system ( carefully said ) as an alternative to what they call 3 competing models:
Isis, Iranian and Turkish erdogani type. The goal is simple, keeping family rule in GCC Sheikhdoms intact. Do not try to find any reference to elections and political freedom because there is none. the piece started at UAE online newspaper does not mention dictatorships in other countries because GCC does not see anything wrong with that as long as those dictatorships are not allies of Iran, Turkey or Isis.
GCC may be willing to make peace with someone like Assad, Boutafliqa, and Bashir if they follow their ” advice”, they have already sent billions of $ to sisi of Egypt but are hesitant to support Tunisia because Tunisians chose to have elections.
يا أمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم

April 3rd, 2015, 8:57 pm

 

Badr said:

How did Daesh (ISIS) militants enter Al-Yarmouk camp on the outskirts of Damascus easily, whereas food and medicine were hardly allowed in during the past months of siege by the regime’s loyal forces!

April 4th, 2015, 12:23 pm

 

ALAN said:

Happy Easter everyone!

April 4th, 2015, 2:53 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Iran will not be a long term enemy for the West despite KSA and Israel attempts to present Iran as the new Satan. Iranians do not need Mullahs but they also do not need a nuclear bomb, they need jobs. On the other hand, the GCC with the possible exception of UAE and Oman are stuck with serious problems that can not be cured with oil money, their problems are due to Wahhabism and a lazy and arrogant population that is used to indulgence and free money. In an environment free from conflict Iranians have much to gain and so do Syrians, there is no substitute to human capital.

April 4th, 2015, 3:46 pm

 

ALAN said:

When American or US proxy forces wage naked aggression against other countries it’s called liberating them.

When nations being attacked defend themselves, they’re called terror states.

On April 2, Reuters reported “dozens of unidentified troops land(ing) by sea in Aden…”

Perhaps ahead of mass Saudi-led invasion plans. Foreign troops disembarked from Saudi and Egyptian vessels.

“The number of troopers who landed in the Yemen port of Aden is unknown, but we are talking about dozens.”

“They were covered by several airplanes. They disembarked from Saudi and Egyptian ships.”

Yemen is Obama’s war. Saudis and other regional states are US proxies.

On March 25, terror-bombing began. Yemeni port areas were blockaded. It’s airspace was declared a “restricted (no-fly) zone.”

Ships carrying humanitarian aid are blocked from approaching Yemen’s coastline.

Border area skirmishes began. Escalation looks likely.

If full-scale invasion is planned, expect mass slaughter and destruction to follow.

Al Qaeda militants stormed the coastal city of Al-Mukalla. They largely control it.

They freed hundreds of locally incarcerated inmates, including senior Al Qaeda member Khaled Baterfi.

Washington’s dirty hands are controlling everything – from choosing targets to deciding who lives or dies.

Ravaging Yemen follows Obama’s wars on Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, partnered with Israel’s permanent war on Palestine, and Donbass.

Plus political and economic war on Iran, Venezuela, other independent countries like Russia – heading recklessly toward turning cold confrontation hot.

A major false flag or judgmental error could launch it.

April 4th, 2015, 3:50 pm

 

ALAN said:

Dear Mr. Putin
With the blessing and support of USA, Saudi Arabia is waging a war on Yemen and says it is doing so in order to preserve own regional security. Please Mr Putin: go ahead in accordance with the same principle. You have many spots require you to be considered!!!

April 4th, 2015, 5:14 pm

 

jo6pac said:

Alan #1

Thanks, that really jumped out at me also.

April 4th, 2015, 8:57 pm

 

Ghufran said:

One week after Nusra terrorist group occupied Idleb the city lost most of its residents who predictively ran for their lives to areas under regime control. Nusra burnt large quantities of tobacco and alcohol and looted shops and houses then raised its black flag on main buildings and executed civilians who were accused of being regime supporters.
Congratulations !!

April 4th, 2015, 10:17 pm

 

Observer said:

I am worried about the silence. Perhaps there is indigestion for drinking too much Ibn T’s Kool Aid.
Of course people left Idlib for now it will be a target for barrel bombs. As the boy said: we do not use barrel bombs we use bombs.
Goofy read the article I posted. Read it twice. This is coming from a Persian no less.

April 4th, 2015, 11:26 pm

 

Observer said:

Russia asks for humanitarian cease fire in Yemen. Humanitarian? Is there any humanity in Putin’s mind? I wonder whether he had to go to some dictionary to find the word and use it.

Laughable were it not so tragic

April 4th, 2015, 11:30 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Idleb people did not have to choose between the regime bombs and the terrorism of Nusra but that is exactly why Syrian rebels should not have reacted to the brutality of the regime by being more brutal then losing the moral high grounds by taking terrorists as allies.
Again, if there was ever a revolution it has ended a long time ago and we are left with the old regime, the new terrorists and the boring goofy pseudo seculars who are trying to find a place in this mess, we all know where they belong 🙂

April 5th, 2015, 12:36 am

 

Alan said:

/uprising and civil war in Syria? /
…For the last four years, I have been analysing the strategies of different States concerning the « Arab springs », but today I note that the populations no longer obey those who manipulate them. People are moved by another, even stronger force, which takes possession of them without their knowledge, and drives them to rebellion….
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187183.html

April 5th, 2015, 11:42 am

 

ghufran said:

Pictures of Easter celebrations from Syria are all over the internet. Not a single rebel-controlled area allowed Christians to mass or celebrate and none of those celebrations was possible if rebels in Homs and other areas were allowed to stay. most areas under rebel control have seen churches closed, burned or destroyed. This is the culture the “Thuwwwar” (revolutionaries) brought to Syria, the last hope of co-religious harmony in the Middle East.
A Sunni friend commented that the religion rebels advocate and force have nothing to do with sunnism, it is an invention by Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia and the gulf, to me those people are a bigger danger to Islam than Zionists.

April 5th, 2015, 12:36 pm

 

ALAN said:

Wall Street Journal: Israel Caught Red-handed Aiding al-Qaeda in Syria

What US and European media have been slow to figure out (or ignore), is how Israel is up to its neck in fueling the long dirty war next door in Syria.

Let’s be clear – once again Israel has been caught red-handed providing aid and comfort to Islamic militant terrorists in Syria, as reported by the Wall Street Journal (see full report below). Understand that this flies in the face of all of Benjamin ‘Bibi’ Netanyahu and the US Republican Party’s lyrical proclamations and hollow platitudes about how Israel is ‘leading the fight against terror’ in the region.

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/04/wall-street-journal-israel-caught-red-handed-aiding-al-qaeda-in-syria/

April 5th, 2015, 2:54 pm

 
 

ALAN said:

A war and image industry?
Humanitarians for War on Syria? Chlorine Gas, No Fly Zone, AVAAZ, White Helmets, HRW, PHR, Amnesty…and more… ?
https://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/fake-humanitarians/

April 5th, 2015, 4:33 pm

 

Passerby said:

What eludes me is why it’s not blatently obvious that Daesh is the Saddam Regime, in cahoots with the Assad Regime?

Ghosts of Saddam calling shots for Islamic State

SANLIURFA, Turkey — When Abu Hamza, a former Syrian rebel, agreed to join the Islamic State, he did so assuming he would become a part of its promised Islamist utopia, which has lured foreign jihadis from around the globe.

Instead, he found himself being supervised by an Iraqi emir and receiving orders from shadowy Iraqis who moved in and out of the battlefield in Syria. When Abu Hamza disagreed with fellow commanders at an Islamic State meeting last year, he said, he was placed under arrest on the orders of a masked Iraqi man who had sat silently through the proceedings.

Abu Hamza, who became the group’s ruler in a small community in Syria, never discovered the Iraqis’ real identities, which were cloaked by code names. All of the men, however, were former Iraqi officers who served under Saddam Hussein, including the masked man, who once had worked for an Iraqi intelligence agency and now belonged to the Islamic State’s own shadowy security service, he said…

Even with the influx of thousands of foreign fighters, almost all of the leaders of the Islamic State are former Iraqi officers, according to Iraqis, Syrians and analysts who study the group…

“All the decision makers are Iraqi, and most of them are former Iraqi officers. The Iraqi officers are in command, and they make the tactics and the battle plans,” he said. “But the Iraqis themselves don’t fight. They put the foreign fighters on the front lines.”…

At first glance, the secularist dogma of Saddam’s tyrannical Baath Party seems at odds with the Islamic State’s harsh interpretation of the Islamic laws it purports to uphold.

But the two creeds broadly overlap in several regards, especially their reliance on fear to secure the submission of the people under the group’s rule. Two decades ago, the elaborate and cruel forms of torture perpetrated by Saddam dominated the discourse about Iraq, much as the Islamic State’s harsh punishments do today…

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20150404-ghosts-of-saddam-calling-shots-for-islamic-state.ece

A chemical weapons expert with the Islamic State (IS) militant group in Iraq has been killed in a coalition airstrike, the US military has said.

Abu Malik’s training provided IS with “expertise to pursue a chemical weapons capability”, a statement said.

He served as a chemical weapons engineer under former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, before joining al-Qaeda in Iraq and then IS, the US said…

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31070249

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

April 5th, 2015, 6:47 pm

 

ghufran said:

They do not want you to read this because it defies their message since 2011. The author realizes that the regime still has support inside Syria and he believes that Israel, KSA, Qatar and Turkey have different objectives than the West today when Syria is concerned. The governments of those countries are using Syrian blood to fight Iran’s influence and have no problem seeing Syria enter a long dark tunnel. The same governments prevented an end to the war despite repeated calls from the UN to stop the Syrian tragedy and the influx of Jihadists.

(Syria: Why is Assad still in power?)

Edward Dark is MEE’s Aleppo-based columnist and writes under a pseudonym.

Edward Dark

April 5th, 2015, 11:53 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Izzat al-Dourii, Saddam’s deputy, released an audio on the eve of albaath 68th birthday.
It is not clear how much support he and his friends have in Iraq today but here is what he said:
– he supports KSA’s attack on Yemen
– he believes that Syria is being invaded and that there is no revolution in Syria today.
– he asked the regime not to insist on keeping Assad in power
– he denounced any alliance with Turkey and Iran
– he attacked Islamists and said that Sunni and Shia in the Arab world should not side with Islamist militias.
– he praised Jordan for giving refuge to Iraqi Baathists.

Douri’s statement has a lot of contradictions, he also did not respond to Baathists initial support for Isis in Mosul and that Saddam’s army and security officers have taken top positions in Isis.

April 6th, 2015, 11:08 pm

 

omen said:

One of the early instances of the use of children’s images was performed by Jabhat al-Nusra, the al-Qaeda affiliate. The child, who was carried on a man’s shoulder, was chanting a song full of bigotry and terrorist rhetoric:

Our leader is Bin Laden … O you who terrorized America

for the record, regime loyalists too sung bin laden’s praises rejoicing in 9/11. casting their later criticism of wahhabism and abhorrence of anything saudi in hypocritical light. alqaeda were were good enough for anti-imperialist assadists when it suited them, prior to the revolution.

April 7th, 2015, 12:53 am

 

omen said:

21. ghufran said: They do not want you to read this because it defies their message since 2011. The author realizes that the regime still has support inside Syria and he believes that Israel, KSA, Qatar and Turkey have different objectives than the West today when Syria is concerned. The governments of those countries are using Syrian blood to fight Iran’s influence and have no problem seeing Syria enter a long dark tunnel. The same governments prevented an end to the war despite repeated calls from the UN to stop the Syrian tragedy and the influx of Jihadists.

only governments who have wielded a veto blocking UN intervention have been russia and china. why aren’t you blaming russia and china for being obstructionist?

April 7th, 2015, 1:04 am

 

ghufran said:

Hamas and its leadership has betrayed the Palestinians in Syria. They were bought by Qatari money and believed, like many others, that “the regime days are numbered”, so Mish’al raised the Opposition flag in 2012 and allowed his followers to take up arms against the Syrian army. Mish’al thugs torpedoed all efforts to neutralize the camp and protect Palestinians but were too quick to give free lessons to Islamists on how to dig tunnels and prepare car bombs, etc.
Now, the same Islamist thugs Mish’al has helped have killed scores of Palestinians in Yarmouk camp, including many from Aknaf Bayt Al-Maqdis (Hamas baby). Before the war there was over 150,000 Palestinians in Yarmouk camp living like most Syrians, a hard life but were living, and now there is less than 18,000 and most can not get out because of Mish’al boys and their old friends-new enemy. Hamas did not even bother to denounce the slaughter of their own people !!
I told this before but I have to repeat:
يا أمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم

April 7th, 2015, 1:30 am

 

Mina said:

#18
That’s an hoax Alan. Definitely not a Saudi accent.

April 7th, 2015, 4:18 am

 

ALAN said:

26. MINA
Maybe, but do you think that Israel is watching?
I dont think that the Israeli – Saudi Arabia – Qatari military alliance is a fairy tale.

April 7th, 2015, 5:32 am

 

ALAN said:

Take these established facts into consideration:

Israel is proven to have developed powerful thermonuclear weapons, some 5 megatons or more, using uranium and plutonium stolen from stockpiles in the United States and reconfigured using data secured through the espionage of not just Jonathan Pollard but moles within the US Department of Energy, according to highly placed sources in both the IAEA and FBI.
Israel, in combination with India, has developed nuclear delivery systems capable of hitting any target in North America. Intelligence reports indicate that Israel has 3 fully armed silos with intercontinental ballistic missiles useful only for an attack on North America, armed with nuclear warheads capable of totally destroying Washington, Chicago and New York City. They will eventually have 7 more according to sources in India and Pakistan, stored in silos built by American aid dollars.
Israel’s “David’s Sling” anti-missile system, built entirely from American designs stolen through espionage, is useful only against retaliatory ICBMs fired from Russia, China, Pakistan or the United States. The system is totally useless against short range missiles or Hamas’ “bottle rockets.” Protection from nuclear retaliation is only required for nations intending a nuclear “first strike.”
Israel has, over the past 15 years, built both a large underground civil defense system and fully nuclear hardened command and control capability. Israel is armed and prepared for an Israeli initiated nuclear war, not the terror attacks, real or imagined, most clearly staged, Israel wrings it’s bloody hands over.
Associated with these facilities is a nuclear warfare capability using both ICBM’s and shorter range missiles capable of hitting Rome (a target Israel has publicly threatened in the past with nuclear destruction..Martin van Creveld), London, Paris and Moscow and advanced American aircraft given to Israel that are capable of delivering nuclear weapons.
Israel’s allegiance with extremist groups in the US, the evangelical Dominionists, a luciferian apocalypse cult tied closely to the Tea Party and Israel lobby, led by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, has given them access to not only tons of weapons grade nuclear material and detailed plans for weapons of mass destruction but moreover has aligned them with elements in the US capable of decapitating the American government as well, not for the first time as evidence by the murder of President John Kennedy, the truncated “elections” of 2000 and 2004 and other incidents less public.
Taking Down America

It has to be clear to all that renewing the Cold War through gangsterism and propaganda is part of a conspiracy. This is certainly no theory.

What is less clear is that the United States is far more a targeted nation than even Russia.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/07/why-america-is-being-targeted/

April 7th, 2015, 6:03 am

 

omen said:

2. Akbar Palace said: The Middle East has become a wasteland of primitive barbarism. Cavemen of the 21st century. Somebody isn’t getting the right education.

bibi upset the balance of power by removing saddam throwing the region into sectarian chaos.

a gift to iran which served only to strengthen the mullahs. why would israel act to empower a supposed avowed enemy?

but, hey, let’s ignore that aspect of responsibility so we can look down our nose and assert our superiority.

April 7th, 2015, 2:14 pm

 

omen said:

6. ALAN said: Happy Easter everyone!

happy easter, alan.

but you know, jesus would not approve putin enabling genocide in syria.

April 7th, 2015, 2:21 pm

 
 

Ghufran said:

According to opposition sources 2/3 of Idleb residents left the city and 15% of the city is destroyed after 2 weeks of Nusra’s assault and occupation of the city. There is no presence of the FSA and the SNC except on Facebook.
Isis started an attack on Aleppo’s country side and is likely to try to take Idleb too.

April 7th, 2015, 5:56 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Happy Easter to Assad and Happy Easter to all men of Assad, including his ISIL mercenaries in Yarmouk.

April 8th, 2015, 4:17 am

 

Badr said:

It remains to be seen if, how much and for how long will the Assad regime gain from allowing Daesh to overrun Al-Yarmouk:

Why Yarmouk’s takeover by ISIS is good news for Bashar al-Assad
By Lina Khatib
Carnegie Middle East Center

April 8th, 2015, 5:54 am

 

ALAN said:

Including //HIS// ISIL mercenaries in Yarmouk?
No Mr. Sandro
Who entered the Yarmouk camp are a cheap slaves of anti-Assad alliance , specifically your Israeli friends that drives demonization screw on the Syrian territory.
Your comments such as Classic Russian Borsch
http://natashaskitchen.com/2010/09/26/classic-russian-borscht-recip

Bon Apetit

April 8th, 2015, 6:13 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Assad opened the way to ISIL / Blackwater by bombing rebel positions in Yarmouk with 25 TNT Barrels. Now Assad has Yarmouk under control by proxies.

April 8th, 2015, 12:26 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Obama, CIA and Iran all in coordination with Assad and Hezbollah are now in control of Syria and Iraq. Iran will now calm down Afganistan and Iraq but will need more help from Obama to get full control of Syria and Lebanon.

Now everything is clear. CIA, Assad and Iran have been operating behind ISIL as we have always been informing.

Obama look to another side and gives Green light to Saudi Arabia to get control of Yemen, this is the offer of Iran to the Saudis.

The New Persian Empire will be settled at the expense of Arabs, Turks and Israelis, unless Israel stops the Chiite American President HUSSEIN OBAMA from letting Iran get to the Mediterranean shores.

April 8th, 2015, 2:01 pm

 

ALAN said:

SANDRO
What is your story with Iran, man?
Why you did not talk about the northern neighbor of Syria Turkey, for example? Are you impressed with it behavior toward distructions of Aleppo, Idlib or Kubani?
Then Are you impressed with the performance of the Gulf states (investment in blood)?
Have you some critic to Jewish state?
any comment against Wahhabism and Zionism?
When you focus your talk about Iran only, it seems like you’re leading Zionist propaganda.

April 8th, 2015, 3:19 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The argument about Yarmouk camp where thawrajiyyeh insists that the regime wants Isis to be within a stone throw of Damascus is not only laughable it is also dumb. There was no presence of the Syrian army in the camp for over 2 years, the result was an evil alliance between Islamist militias which forced 85% of its residents to flee. The only likely scenario now is a military counter attack to push terrorists out. Look at the list of Syrians and Palestinian groups that thawrajiyyeh and their Islamist friends have managed to alienate and you will simply conclude that the objective was and still is to transform Syria into another Libya in the name of changing the regime. Even Hamas is now reviewing its strategic failure and joining other Palestinian factions asking the old enemy, the Syrian army, to help them end Isis advances.
Nusra to thawrajiyyeh was a plan-B that becomes plan-A after Isis was declared unacceptable by the West and an embarrassment to the GCC, this is why thugs like Junblat and senior Hariri aids refused to denounce nusra and some called it a Syrian opposition group !!
You can not win a war for freedom and justice when your allies are Nusra and your financiers are GCC sheikhs.
يا أمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم

April 8th, 2015, 9:02 pm

 

Badr said:

“the regime wants Isis to be within a stone throw of Damascus”

I don’t know about that, but if they were caught by surprise, and were not able to prevent it, what does this tell you about the current state of affairs of Assad’s forces!

April 9th, 2015, 2:13 am

 

omen said:

привет Алан, ты как? что вы будете делать после Асада свергнут?

April 9th, 2015, 2:32 am

 

ALAN said:

41. OMEN
Omen thanks for your question. I am well and happy. and for you i hope so.
about your Q: What will i do after the Overthrow of Assad?
Political realism and events tracking imposes the pragmatism. Your premise is unreal and non-pragmatic
Generally and in the other hand, please tell me how the Western world and who is going on in its orbit will live when the collapse of the United States about to happen because it is inevitable?

April 9th, 2015, 6:21 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Iran has been executing a long term policy while arab were hubble-bubbling, eating, praying and sleeping.

Iran has paid for shiite communities in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain and Yemen from the moment the Shiite Islamic Revolution started. They promoted the sectarian feeling among shiite population, and by paying subsidies they bought people and their primitive feelings of being part of a tribe (the shiite tribe). Iran promoted the violent reaction of shiite communities (lebanese, bahrainis, saudis, yemenís) or regimes (iraqi and syrian) towards sunna global majority and turned the Middle East political field into a war battlefield.

It takes us to the last step, sending weapons and money for war salaries to all those shite communities that have been formed to this moment when Iran will try to control all of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Yemen and maybe Oman when H.H.Sultan Qabous expires.

CIA knew about it and never moved an inch to avoid it.
US, the land of the free. LOOOOOOL
The land of the free after half of Africa was bought in slavery and before they destroyed Japan with atomic bombs and sold the Arabs and the Jews to the New Persina Empire in order to keep momentum against China.

April 9th, 2015, 8:21 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

ALAN,

You look like a criminal asking the deviant Putin to invade and attack other countries. For me you look like a criminal, well paid by his master indeed, but a criminal at the end of the day.

April 9th, 2015, 8:58 am

 

ALAN said:

44. SANDRO LOEWE
/You look like a criminal asking the deviant Putin to invade and attack other countries./
Thank you very much Mr. Sandro for your recognition about the shameful and criminal brutal and toxic acts of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the Arab and Islamic region. Actually this praise certificate for your meet the content and significance of my comment.
Long live Yemen! Glory for blessed Yemenis. Down with satanic war maniacs in the KSA

April 9th, 2015, 12:46 pm

 
 

Observer said:

Repent the end is near

BEIRUT—Like Israel and Saudi Arabia, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has his own reasons to be worried about Iran’s framework nuclear agreement with the U.S. and other world powers.

On the face of it, the prospect of a final accord that would lift some international sanctions against Iran is good news for Mr. Assad and his regime, which depend on billions of dollars in support from Tehran. Add to that the direct and substantial military support Mr. Assad receives from Iran’s most powerful proxy force in the region, the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah.

But prospects look dimmer for Mr. Assad if a nuclear agreement opens the door to a broader rapprochement with Iran over its role in Syria and what the Obama administration views as the Islamic Republic’s other destabilizing activities in the region, according to diplomats and analysts.

Iran and Russia, which also provides Mr. Assad with significant diplomatic, political and military support, are willing to envision a solution to the four-year-old conflict in Syria that eventually eases him out of power while safeguarding their own strategic interests in the country, according to people familiar with details of current Syria diplomacy.

Fighters from a coalition of Islamist forces stand on a huge portrait of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad last month.ENLARGE
Fighters from a coalition of Islamist forces stand on a huge portrait of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad last month. PHOTO: ZEIN AL-RIFAI/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
Publicly, Iran and Russia have long maintained that it is up to Syrians to decide the fate of Mr. Assad. But in recent days, there have been hints that they might need to consider alternative scenarios.

“Everyone realizes that the situation has changed a lot and now involves even more angles and complexities,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters in Moscow on Monday.

The Syrian Foreign Ministry issued a terse statement last week welcoming the framework deal between Iran and the U.S. and praising Iran’s “scientific achievements.” Syrian regime officials have repeatedly portrayed the bond with their two main allies, Iran and Russia, as unbreakable.

An Iranian alliance with Syria based on ties with Mr. Assad and his ruling Shiite-linked Alawite minority has become increasingly expensive and untenable, Syria experts say. At the same time, Tehran wants any future government in Syria to help safeguard its influence in Iraq and Lebanon.

“I have no doubt in my mind that for Iran and Hezbollah, Assad is expendable and his fate negotiable as long as the political settlement preserves the regime infrastructure and support for the resistance axis,” said Fawaz Gerges, a professor of international relations at the London School of Economics and Political Science, referring to the Iran-led regional alliance that includes Hezbollah and the Syrian regime.

In a reflection of growing fears among Mr. Assad’s supporters that an Iran nuclear deal could ultimately come at their leader’s expense, Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah sought Monday to allay their worries.

“Iran has never abandoned its allies or sold them out,” Mr. Nasrallah told a Syrian news channel.

Syrian Orthodox Christians carry a portrait of Mr. Assad during a Palm Sunday procession in Damascus.ENLARGE
Syrian Orthodox Christians carry a portrait of Mr. Assad during a Palm Sunday procession in Damascus. PHOTO: LOUAI BESHARA/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
As Moscow hosts a second round of talks this week between representatives of Mr. Assad’s regime and some members of the opposition, Syria is in a state of collapse. Four years into a war that has killed more than 215,000 people, displaced millions and destroyed much of the economy and infrastructure, Syria itself is barely recognizable as a country.

Although Mr. Assad and his allies control the capital, Damascus, and much of central and western Syria, they are losing ground in the south and north. Kurds have carved out a self-rule zone in the northeast while most opposition-held territory is in the hands of Sunni Islamist groups including Islamic State and the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front.

Qadri Jamil, a former Syrian deputy prime minister, said the main parties to the fighting have wearied of it. “The economic situation [in Syria] is very bad, and there is a limit to how much Iran or any other country can do or withstand,” Mr. Jamil said in a telephone interview from Moscow. “On the battlefront, there is attack and retreat and hopes for a decisive victory have evaporated, so everyone in principle is searching for a face-saving political solution.”

Mr. Jamil and others say Secretary of State John Kerry was acknowledging the need for new approaches to ending the war when he told CBS News last month that any negotiated political settlement in Syria would involve talking with Mr. Assad and his regime.

“Although the substance of what Kerry said was that, ‘We need to talk to Bashar al-Assad about his departure,’ the tone is new,” said a senior European diplomat involved in Syria policy. The diplomat noted that Mr. Kerry’s comments on the Syrian leader for the first time didn’t include the demand he must step down.

Yet even if a nuclear deal with Tehran leads to fresh attempts to end the fighting in Syria, such an effort faces formidable obstacles.

Sunni-led Saudi Arabia says its continuing campaign in Yemen is the start of a new push to roll back Shiite Iran’s reach into the Arab world. And many inside and outside Syria would never agree to Mr. Assad being part of a peace settlement, even a transitional one, because they see him as the prime cause of much of the country’s suffering.

Another obstacle is Mr. Assad himself. Even if Iran and Hezbollah decide to help ease him from power, their influence on him isn’t boundless.

Their support is “critical and pivotal” for Mr. Assad’s survival, but there is a limit to how much pressure these allies can put on him within the framework of a potential political settlement, Mr. Gerges said.

“If Assad realizes his future is on the line, he would not listen to Hezbollah and Iran. He will fight,” Mr. Gerges said.

With the help of Iran, Russia and other allies, Mr. Assad continues to project himself as Syria’s only legitimate governing authority even as he positions himself as an indispensable member of the international community.

Mr. Assad has signaled to Europe and the U.S. that they must deal with him if they want to combat Islamic State and prevent further blowback from jihadists in Syria and other countries.

The power of that appeal was evident in February when Mr. Assad received a high-level French parliamentary delegation in Damascus. The French lawmakers broke ranks with their own government, which is among the staunchest opponents of the Syrian regime. “After Charlie Hebdo, many people are questioning the wisdom of the policy,” of boycotting Mr. Assad, said another European diplomat, referring to the Islamist terror attack on the French satirical magazine in January.

The Syrian president has also sought to tie his political fate to other distant conflicts.

In March, Mr. Assad met in Damascus with representatives of eight Russian media outlets to deliver a message to the Russian people and government that their standoff with the West in Ukraine extended to Syria, too. He said he would welcome any expansion of Russia’s naval presence in western Syria.

“Syria and Ukraine concern Russia and the goal in both is clear: weakening Russia,” he said.

April 9th, 2015, 8:40 pm

 

Ghufran said:

There is a long list of grievances most Syrians have when it comes to the regime that ruled Syria since 1963. I know as a fact that a sizable section of Syrian minorities and urban Sunnis were very angry when they realized that the regime used indiscriminate force to stop demonstrations and unrest at the beginning of the Syrian conflict before it became a full blown war but it only took weeks to see sectarian slogans and unjustified attacks on army units that were not in combat zones.
I strongly believe that the influx of jihadis and the Islamization and militarization of the conflict prolonged the life of the regime and contributed tremendously to the vast devastation we see in Syria today and the deep division in the Syrian society.
Conspiracy theorists will be quick to put all the blame on the regime without looking at what regional players and their syrian agents did to keep this war going. Nobody forced Syrian rebels to commit atrocities and occupy towns knowing fully how the regime will respond .
This bloody tango required two dancers, stop kidding yourself believing otherwise.
I said since September 2011 that this war will be long and bloody and it will cost Syrians dearly and can only benefit israel. Leadership on both sides failed and did not put Syria’s national interest ahead of their own narrow ambitions and empty pride.
Pity the Syrian nation, I am not even sure we have a nation today, the future looked bleak when champions of freedom and justice acted as thieves and sectarian thugs and wanted to replace one dictaroship with another that is decisively worse making Syria looks like Libya.
امه فاشله من الألف للياء

April 9th, 2015, 9:07 pm

 

Observer said:

If this criminal regime had done real reforms and put in a court of law the governor of Deraa none of this would have happened.
Who sows the wind harvests the storm. This is nothing less than sour grapes now.
You ain’t seen nothing yet. Libya will look like a a child play compared to what is going to happen in Syria. Today IS took 50 prisoners from a mixed village of Ismailis, Alawis, and Sunnis. The majority taken were Sunnis considered apostates for living with other sects.

My fear is what will happen to the minority. I am dreading genocidal happenings.

April 10th, 2015, 8:30 am

 
 

Jasmine said:

The Saudi invasion on Yemen has proved once again the extreme political impotence of the Saudi Regime,it is an act of cowardice towards a starving nation where 15 millions of them can afford only one meal a day.
The royal family is gutted from its failure in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon and desperately wanted a punch bag (Yemen )to show Some borrowed muscles to Iran.
I am saving few bottles of champagne to celebrate once ISIS is back home to SA.

April 10th, 2015, 2:19 pm

 

Mjabali said:

ISIS is the collective consciousness of the Sunnis.

ISIS had articulated their views very clearly. It is the same mindset that is attacking Yemen now. Anyone to challenge this? The coalition of the Sunnis against the Houthis of Yemen proves this point. There is no clear Sunni antagonism to this point to say otherwise. We had hopes in Egyptians, but Sisi now is letting his beard grow while shaving his mustache.

All Sunnis were happy when they attacked the Houthis.

Imagine ISIS with 200 F16…wow..

April 10th, 2015, 2:52 pm

 

ALAN said:

52. MJABALI
Stop sectarian speech please. I’m here more than attacked Saudi Arabia and I am Sunni!

April 10th, 2015, 4:37 pm

 

mjabali said:

Alan:

Sunnis who attack the ideas of ISIS are super few. They can not even fill a bus on their best day.

April 10th, 2015, 6:49 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Pakistan gives the finger to KSA and decides to stay neutral in the war on Yemen. Egypt will not be far behind, what sisi wants is $, he can not afford to send soldiers to die to please the sheikhs in the GCC, if he does he will be overthrown by the army.

April 10th, 2015, 8:56 pm

 

Ghufran said:

We must stop supporting any rebels, and stop demanding that Assad must go. America must use its phenomenal power and influence to bring about negotiations, involving Russia and all other parties, to enforce a ceasefire between Assad and moderate rebels. When that has been established, the Syrian army must be sent out to do the job it is uniquely equipped to do: eradicate Isis and other foreign armies from their country. That will make them much easier to deal with in Iraq and elsewhere. Our government should stop backing the US on Syria and instead call on Barack Obama to start serious talks with Vladimir Putin and others as a matter of urgency. Our present policy is condemning Syria to war with no end in sight.
Brendan O’Brien
London

April 10th, 2015, 9:27 pm

 

ALAN said:

MJABALI
it is the traditional answer from a man who looks through the prism of sectarian. You yourself wrote before: /”أنا طائفي حتى النخاع”/
obviously you are polarized.

April 11th, 2015, 2:06 am

 

mjabali said:

ALAN:

I never wrote what you just said. This is a straight lie.

It is funny how you can not come up with a real answer to my points and instead try to attack me and claim that I said something that I did not.

Come on Alan, do you think I would say something like that about myself.

I call things as they are. As we saw on this blog, Sunnis do not have the stomach for my truthfulness.

When you have Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, Egypt, Morroco, UAE, and Kuwait talk day and night about their Sunni agenda: where were you? talking about Putin?

Everything is in the open now: the events showed who support who and why.

No one can deny the truth: The SUNNIS in the Middle East are behaving in a very clear and distinguished manner.

The Middle East is going to have new borders based on religion.

So why be shy and not call things how they should be called?

If you want to keep looking for Putin that is your choice.

April 11th, 2015, 4:49 am

 

ALAN said:

Request to Moderator
please help me to find in archive of previous years where Mr. MJABALI used in his debate comment the Arabic phrase “أنا طائفي حتى النخاع”

MJABALI said:
/Sunnis who attack the ideas of ISIS are super few. They can not even fill a bus on their best day./
Are you reduced us with all that simplicity? Do you think that the real Syrian depth between the Sunnis in Syria and outside is that quantity?

/When you have Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, Egypt, Morroco, UAE, and Kuwait talk day and night about their Sunni agenda/
Are you talking about the alliance?
Why you did not mentioned the others: Israel? America, Turkey, etc.? Is this alliance is an intensified summary of Sunnah?

/The Middle East is going to have new borders based on religion./
This talk is not acceptable, but it is a Zionist propaganda promotional scheme. If you’re frustrated, you should not dive in subversive propaganda as minimum.

/If you want to keep looking for Putin that is your choice./
I’m not looking for Putin because Putin is in the possibilities that are used by countries to defend itself and its destiny.

April 11th, 2015, 6:24 am

 

Observer said:

Well how about moving the debate about peaceful separation of the communities.
Here is an open essay from the WSJ. I would love to read MJABALI and Alan’s comments on this post
http://www.wsj.com/articles/would-new-borders-mean-less-conflict-in-the-middle-east-1428680793?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories

April 11th, 2015, 7:14 am

 

Observer said:

I agree with MJABALI call a spade a spade: it is sectarian. The minorities have always remained sectarian, the MB was and is fully sectarian especially in the 80’s, Hamas is sectarian, the Iranian regime is sectarian, the Shia militias in Iraq are the definition of sectarianism, the Future movement is sectarian, there are no secularists left. IS is sectarian, Nusra is sectarian. The regime called the revolution sectarian from day one and used it to kidnap and take hostage the minorities.

Israel always wanted a religiously based ME so that it can justify its sectarian based existence

April 11th, 2015, 7:20 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

90 % of people sharing in this SC is sectarian all people in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Israel and Yemen are sectarian by force of facts.

ALAN and MJABALI by critizing other´s sectarianism you try to hide you are absolutely sectarian too. You say ISIL is the conciousness of Sunna sectarianism. Yes, indeed as Ayatollah and Assad are the consiousness of Shite and Alawite sectarianism. The difference is that ISIL has a short history of atrocities while Iran and Assad have been torturing, raping and detaining to death for sectarian reasons (simply keeping their sect in power) for the last 35-45 years each.

April 11th, 2015, 8:05 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Cemetery Officials in Tabriz Continue to Turn Away Bahais

HRANA News Agency – Officials at the public cemetery in Tabriz, the Wadi-ye Rahmat cemetery, have refused to allow the burial of Mr. Maruwati, a Bahai from Tabriz who died on March 20, 2015.

According to the report of Human Rights Activists News Agency in Iran (HRANA), on the morning when Mr. Maruwati died, his family took his body to the cemetery for burial.

The officials concerned told them to take the body to the morgue at the cemetery, and to wait at home until they were contacted. A few hours later someone from the cemetery telephoned, to say that permission for burial had been denied, and the body had been taken to the town of Miandoab for burial.

For the past 18 months, Bahais have not been accepted for burial in Tabriz, and the bodies have been taken to the towns around the city to be buried, without informing the families. The families of the deceased have sought a meeting with Mr. Jalali, head of the public cemetery, but so far he has been unwilling to meet them or hold a discussion.

April 11th, 2015, 8:09 am

 

mjabali said:

Alan:

You are a true communist: Fast to label their opponents, even INVENTING fake news like what you did regarding me.

Now you need the moderator’s help finding your fake claim.

You made the claim and you have the responsibility to back it up. People are not your employees comrade.

You can search anything I wrote by typing MJABALI into google. It is that easy, easier than slandering someone.

Nevertheless, for the sake of discussion, here are some points to counter your argument:

– I am talking about Sunnis all over the world. You guys are uniting these days through your hatred to Shia, forgetting how bad and despotic the rulers who are leading you to your unknown future. What is the future of your hatred to Shia?

– Sunni leaders like the King of Jordan, King of Saudi Arabia, Prince of Qatar were able to unify Sunnis through HATRED and not through en economic plan for example.

The attack against the Houthis in Yemen is the perfect example, as well the history of the Sunni’s involvement in Iraq following the ouster of the Sunni “HERO” Saddam Hussein.

– Israel is riding along because of its fear and hatred of Iran, and also because of its long war with Huzballah. Wait till Israel and Iran solve their differences.

– The United States of America is lost in this war, they support the wrong guys as always. what happened to al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula ?

– Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Gulf Emirates and Fiefdoms are the leaders of this Sunni wave because of the money they have. Their views regarding this world is from the Middle Ages at best….

– It is not a Zionist conspiracy as you bark every day. I do not believe this. Never did and never will..Whatever the Middle East is going through right now is the product of Sunnis and Shia. Do not fool yourself and others please.

– The borders are going to be according to religious affiliation. If you accept that or not, that is your personal opinion.

NOTE: My friend asked me the other day : Why Saudi Arabia chose to attack the Houthis in Yemen the day Tikrit fell???

April 11th, 2015, 9:18 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Unfortunately this SC is the real image of Syria:

Day after day more people leaves the country and most of the people staying in the country protect and support the regime for uncredible, senseless and stupid reasons more typical to a primitive hominid than to homo sapiens sapiens.

People for survival reasons lie to themselves and try to forgot the root of the evil and madness and put the blame on the Devil reincarnated. Syria with all brave and educated syrians have been lost forever.

The cradle of civilizations is the cemetry of human rights and civil society.

Obama could finally well appear in the eyes of history as failure that provoked hundreds of thousands of vicitims.

April 11th, 2015, 9:22 am

 

ghufran said:

Sectarianism in the region is fueled by poverty and lack of freedom and is often encouraged or protected by foreign occupiers.
Despite my usual pessimism about the situation in Syria, I know very well that people are able to make a slow U-turn and go back to their senses if the war is stopped and Assad gives his post to another politician.
Notice how the sick phenomenon of ISIS (Shia militias,Nusra,etc) were closely associated with events like the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the forced removal of Saddam Hussein from power followed by Iran’s domination of Iraq. The continuous factor was oppressive Arab regimes including the regime in Syria. GCC regimes are the worst because they have a lot of money and are supported by the West and Wahhabi religious establishment.
The GCC has family-based dictatorship but were able to buy the silence of their people with the help of religious sheikhs who historically sided with the people in power.
In Syria, what made the uprising possible beside the known factor (a corrupt and oppressive regime) was the increasing poverty and outside influence and intervention.
Syria, my friends, is the political and strategic jewel of the Middle East, she is the beautiful woman most men are trying to have, men fight and kill over her while she is getting older and remain husbandless, I was just hoping to see her settle down in a safe environment before she dies !!

April 11th, 2015, 10:50 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

but, hey, let’s ignore that aspect of responsibility so we can look down our nose and assert our superiority

Omen,

BB wasn’t responsible for Iraq. The US was responsible for Iraq, and in hindsight, it was the right thing to do, Obama was the one who made the mistake of withdrawing our forces from there.

My opinion is that we should have permanent bases in Iraq. We have bases in Italy, Germany and Japan, and today, Iraq needs American help more than any of these nations.

Omen, there is no “superiority”. It case you haven’t heard, Jews are down in numbers just over 10 million worldwide, so it is more an issue of survival. Excuse us if we don’t want Israel to become another arab graveyard.

But, the issue isn’t only arab, it is also Persian. As much as I don’t like the Saudi monarchy, the KSA has no ambition to gobble up nations like the Iranians do. I am hoping the KSA allows the IAF to base their fighters there until the job is completed successfully.

The Iranian theocracy has to end, and it will take a small kick in the ass to get the ball rolling.

April 11th, 2015, 11:19 am

 
 

ghufran said:

Random shelling in Aleppo by “moderate rebels” killed 17 civilians in one day. Are not you glad those “freedom lovers” do not have access to military jets ?

April 11th, 2015, 2:15 pm

 

Ghufran said:

What the brutal assault on civilians in Aleppo showed that the world powers do not care about Syrians, I believe they never did and that is why Syrians should not have waited for others to solve their problems and should not have used violence to settle their differences.
Another lesson is the clear conclusion that neither the regime nor the rebels are bothered by the death of innocent civilians. Rebels lost the PR war a long time ago and with it they lost support among Syrians also, that made it easier for armed thugs to shell civilians in areas under regime control. One can expect foreign jihadists to be brutal and heartless but the painful truth is that many Syrian civilians are being killed by other Syrians.
Those of you who still think that there is a military victory in Syria are delusional, the only outcome of this war is more death and destruction, and that makes stopping the war as the only way out, any other approach to the Syrian crisis is effectively an attempt to keep the fire raging. No Syrian should be opposed to a cease fire regardless of whether a cease fire makes them look as winners or losers, the truth is that we all lost already but we can still give those who are still alive a life jacket instead of a death certificate.
أوقفوا حمام الدم
انتم ضحايا و سبايا
كل شعاراتكم سقطت

April 11th, 2015, 4:54 pm

 

omen said:

70. ghufran

it’s regime airforce who have reduced syria to rubble…who continues to be given free license to blatantly gas civilians.

it’s not the opposition with hundreds of thousands of political prisoners (including children) dying a slow death in regime extermination camps destined to end up in mass graves.

you cant deny you would fight back too if you were being fired upon. are syrians supposed to commit mass suicide, roll over and die willingly in order for bashar to prevail? is that your dream scenario?

“rebels do it too” is a feeble excuse to justify assad carnage when poorly armed syrians are acting in self defense against a superior equipped aggressor.

continuing to cling to your “opposition are bad” narrative when they represent the majority of syrians while making allowances for regime’s ruthlessness – hints at the desperation of your conscience grasping at straws in order to justify your reluctance in seeing hitler fall.

20,000 children dead. all terrorists, im sure. keep blaming the victim, ghufran, to justify assad.

April 11th, 2015, 5:05 pm

 

mjabali said:

Sandro Low:

A Sunni is the one who came up with the notion that the ISIS is the conciseness of the Sunnis.

He was angry that the world ganged up at one moment to bomb ISIS after they invaded Sanjar Mountains.

Events on the ground prove his claim.

Sunnis has a history of atrocities against Shia and Alawites dates 1000 years for the Shia and around 700 years for the Alawites. The Sunnis promise the same day in and a day out.

The Sunnis did a massacre after another over 1000 years against the non-Sunnis. It is continuing today. Shia just recently got some power to fight back. This is a known fact, if you like it or not.

The Sunnis got away so far with murdering millions of Shia and Alawites, Druz, Christians, etc….

The Sunni literature throughout history said nothing but how to control non-Sunnis.

By the way: are you another Sunni like your man Alan, he fooled me for a while?

April 11th, 2015, 5:58 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

MJABALI,

Sorry but I hate your sectarian and partisan dialectics. No need to insist. I refuse all your religion debates, I consider people discussing about religions simply empty headed people. From the first day I heard people competing about religion around me I felt they are inferior humans.

I respect religious people, I ignore people who talks about religion to those who dont care.

April 11th, 2015, 6:47 pm

 

omen said:

73. mjabali said: Sunnis has a history of atrocities against Shia and Alawites dates 1000 years for the Shia and around 700 years for the Alawites.

tell us about syrian history of alawite killing alawite.

New Mass Torture photos for Alawite victims

New photos of mass torture obtained by Zaman al-Wasl showing, for the first time, pro-Bashar al-Assad militants who were killed in Syrian security chambers.

The atrocious photos of mass torture by Syrian security had been taken in a well-known military hospital in Mezzah neighborhood of Damascus.

over 500,000 syrians butchered in myriad ways and yet continued existence for alawi is still no assured. how many sunnis must be sacrificed for you to feel satisfied?

April 12th, 2015, 12:59 am

 

mjabali said:

Omen:

Your input has no meaning, and void of perception about the situation and history of Syria. Just blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah……….

April 12th, 2015, 3:21 am

 

ALAN said:

MJABALI
I’m not a communist
All there I got a higher education in the Soviet Union. We see the global events, based on the knowledge we have accumulated in Moscow.

April 12th, 2015, 4:55 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

ALAN, you are the intelectual product of a criminal dictatorship which was the output of a World Guiness Criminal like Stalin who was not better than Hilter or Mao Tse Tung. You always put the state interests and the glory of its founders over the people. This is Assad, in this sense Assad is a typical oriental dictator-shit. Thanks to people like you the Orient will always be place where you are born to die like a dog.

Anyone educated under this scheme is ready to hold a weapon and kill his neighbours or send them to torture in prison.

April 12th, 2015, 6:46 am

 

Observer said:

I love the pure black and white view of the world of MJABALI. Labeling the “other” in a single brush stroke is the first step to “dehumanize” that other; so that the next step is to “genocide” the other. Typical of Orientalist Colonialist and every other oppressor from the dawn of history.

It is too bad that the “other” is also fighting back; and that “other” is also using the language of “dehumanization” of the oppressor such that the entire sect will now suffer the consequences of sticking with their sectarianism.

I would say that the Sunni thought process is so powerful and pervasive and omnipresent that even MJABALI thinks exactly in those terms.

As time goes by, from an intelligent reasoned person we have seen a transformation of the historian in residence and expert par excellence on Sunni atrocities slowly but surely become ……. surprise ………a Sunni 🙂

April 12th, 2015, 8:26 am

 

Alan said:

Sandro
Thank you.I feel very sorry for you!

April 12th, 2015, 11:01 am

 

ghufran said:

The regime’s response(in Moscow’s meeting)to basic requests by an opposition he already accepted leaves no doubt that clinging to power and refusing to share was and still is a major hurdle in reaching a settlement to end the Syrian war. The political opposition figures in that meeting have already accepted most of the regime’s demands but that was not good enough. The truth is that there are still stubborn heads on the regime’s side who think that Syria today is the same as Syria in the 1970s. Assad refused to allow Louai Hussein to attend, he also denied (against most people’s belief) that his security forces have arrested
Dr. AA Alkhayyer in prison. The regime wants a political solution and wants to fight terrorism but is still keeping a number of non Islamist opposition activists in jail, only a fool will believe that any future elections in Syria under current conditions will be fair and clean. The message is loud and clear, Assad team is participating in political initiatives for PR reasons, I yet to see any proof of a real desire to accept the concept of power sharing and elections. If you this the Syrian war was only caused by Islamist terrorists and the GCC / Turkey think again, the regime made it possible for this war to start and now Syrians are stuck between the brutal and lawless armed rebels and the rigid and unforgiving regime.

April 12th, 2015, 2:02 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Assad rats and ISIL must be bombed altogether since they are the origin and result of madness and terrorism.

April 12th, 2015, 3:37 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Sunni bashing is not just wrong, it is also bad politics unless you want Syria to be divided along sectarian lines which is insane and undoable. It is legitimate to hold the GCC and Tukey accountable for what they did and are still doing but people and the international community at large should not let Iran and the syrian regime get off the hook. A grand compromise is the only way out, I maintain my personal view that non Arab states meddling in regional affairs have hurt Arabs and boosted the standing of Iran and Turkey, however the tragic situation today was only possible because of corrupt and oppressive Arab regimes.
Look around and tell me who is bleeding and who is thriving in the region and you will understand my point. Kurds realized this a long time ago, will Arabs eventually rise above their little narrow interests and hatred and play the game as adults ?

April 12th, 2015, 4:02 pm

 

Alan said:

DearProfessor, Is your blog limited to these knowledgeable scientists? Became ashamed of dialoguing.

April 12th, 2015, 4:09 pm

 
 

mjabali said:

Alan:

Higher education from the Soviet Union equals a high school diploma from Uganda, especially when you show inability to respect other people’s opinions and then fabricate fake things about them.

April 13th, 2015, 7:46 am

 

Alan said:

mjabali
Bernard Levy is really a thinker with a big impact. The efficiency of his ideas classified as the world’s third largest!
Take care.

April 13th, 2015, 8:06 am

 

mjabali said:

When a Sunni like Obesernvaar attack me personally from day one just because I am not a Sunni like him regardless to my ideas: I know that he has no real answer to my points and is behaving in the same dismissive mannerism I grew up around. the same mentality thinks everything is fine and our history is not bloody.

Sunnis like him always are unable to answer the questions we minority people pose.
He refuses to see our history. He thinks we always lived happily. Hahaha…what a joke.

Sunnis like him should grow up and live up to this current moment and not come with the limited rhetorics of personal attacks.

Let him try for ONCE to bring something of substance to the discussion.

Also, someone should tell him to wear adults pants when discussing the politics of the middle east.

April 13th, 2015, 8:19 am

 

mjabali said:

The Islamic State issues a song calling its fighters in Yemen to join in the Sunni attack against the Houthis.

The song asks them to go and blow themselves up amongst the Houthis. So, imagine F 16 from up in the sky and suicide bombers provided by the Islamic State loons….what a strategy….

The song is called: Ibn al-Yamani…ابن اليماني

Here is a sample of the lyrics of this Jihadi song:

نصرة الإسلام كل اهتمامك والسيف الأملح للروافض هو الحل

Now:You have in one camp: the Islamic State, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, and SUDAN

5000 Egyptian soldiers came yesterday to join in this Sunni coalition against the Houthis.

PS: Some on this blog may object to naming the coalition again the Houthis as a Sunni Coalition. Any other word for this?

Is there any other force than Sunnism that is uniting these people against the Houthis?

April 13th, 2015, 8:38 am

 

mjabali said:

ALAN:

I am talking about your “higher eduction” and impact, and not about Bernard Levy.

Care to explain to us the methods they teach in Soviet “higher education” institutes?

April 13th, 2015, 8:40 am

 

Alan said:

mjabali
I count on your good understanding.

April 13th, 2015, 9:27 am

 

omen said:

76. mjabali said: Your input has no meaning, and void of perception about the situation and history of Syria. Just blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah……….

i believe this is called “projection”.

another example:

86. you show inability to respect other people’s opinions

haha

April 13th, 2015, 2:13 pm

 

mjabali said:

Omen:

When you write anything of value regarding Syria I will respect what you say.

April 13th, 2015, 4:17 pm

 

mjabali said:

ALAN:

There is a Sunni awakening and Henry Bernard Levy has nothing to do with it.

He has nothing to do with Ibn Taymiyah.

April 13th, 2015, 4:19 pm

 

omen said:

you missed my point, mj.

April 13th, 2015, 5:22 pm

 

omen said:

85. Mina said: As this is too ugly it won’t be reported by most mainstream media

what doesn’t get reported, mina, is assad’s industrial scale carnage, including mass rape.

April 13th, 2015, 5:26 pm

 

Observer said:

MJABALI I agree with you that the Sunnis were awful and oppressive. No question about that, that is why the minorities do not want to have anything based on religious affiliation to define the nationality but they are also locked into thinking of themselves as minorities first and nationals second and there lies the dilemma. You are painting all Sunnis with one brush stroke exactly like the Sunnis do to others. In that you have become a Sunni. I am an atheist but I do note that the Sunnis are being painted with a single brush stroke and demonized so that they can be annihilated. The same argument is being used by IS and by Sunnis. Welcome to the sect my friend.
As for points I did not read any points just rambling about how Ibn T’s thought is the only thinking process of ALL the SUNNIS in your mind. To talk about intellectual bankruptcy and laziness is actually a good way to describe this exchange.

Now who gives a rat’s ass about Yemen or about Saudi Arabia fighting Houthis who’s slogan is Death To America Death to Israel Damn the Jews and Victory to Islam and they are called Ansar Allah.

Allah is flooded with people wanting to fight in his name from Ansar to Hizb to BS Zeinab to Jund to Nusra to this or that. With so many dead enders no wonder he has decided he does not exist anymore.

Come join the atheists like me and liberate yourself from Ibn T’s chokehold.

April 13th, 2015, 8:47 pm

 

Mina said:

#95 Could you provide links to the NGO reports?

#88 Do you have a link for the 5000 Egyptian soldiers? Or is it just a rumour?

April 14th, 2015, 4:31 am

 

Juergen said:

Fairuz may still be the last memory of the old orient, but now even she looks tired…

April 14th, 2015, 4:37 pm

 

Decisively Stormy said:

We would like to inform you that the Yemen operation is now progressing on schedule and in the right direction. The Yemen popular committees, flush with new weapons and coupled with unchallenged air support, are taking care of the Iranian Houthies with the results expected to be the total defeat of the latter in the very near future. The Houthies are surrendering in droves or running away with whatever the can run with. When done with the South, the committees will move to the North and finish off the task and Yemen will be happy once more. This will end Iranian encroachment once and for all in this part of the world.

Zarif sounds so zarif by calling for so-called dialog and presenting to the UN so-called plans for solutions. However, F-16 dialog seems to be the most effective after year(s) of empty double talk. His sailors aboard the out of date frigates are definitely enjoying the spectacle at the mouth of the Mandib. They’ll go home soon with memorable experience and stories to tell.

April 14th, 2015, 6:43 pm

 

ALAN said:

Did Money Seal Israeli-Saudi Alliance?
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/15/did-money-seal-israeli-saudi-alliance/
The US/KSA/Israel are having great ‘success’ along the ‘future’ dimension in the Middle East, according to their common, vicious and demented axis of reference … 12 Million Middle Eastern Children Are Not Going to School….. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/12-Million-Middle-Eastern-Children-Are-Not-Going-to-School—20150415-0015.html
No doubt where the axis of evil in the Middle East lies today, although the actual financial anatomy of their alliance has not yet been definitely fleshed out.

April 15th, 2015, 3:24 pm

 

ALAN said:

We would like to inform you….
Get rid of daydreaming. The table can turn upper down on the arrogance heads within few hours. Our ZRPK and others units could be there, where necessary..

April 15th, 2015, 5:00 pm

 

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